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HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA

THE GOLDEN WITCHE'S, WITCHED LAUGHTER

BREAK THE FANTASY FOR MARIA

TO SURVIVE WITH MARIA

>> No.12646885
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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Sexualizing the Maria!

>> No.12646902

>>12646895
Dont you even dare!

>> No.12646933
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candy

>> No.12646958
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want candy

>> No.12647050 [DELETED] 

>>12646933
>>12646958
look at that little autist

>> No.12653331

>>12646895
This is even scanned?

>> No.12653456

>>12653331
Nope.
Poor Maria doesn't have a single good doujinshi about her.

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>>12653456
What about that one where Beato summons Asmo and a penis and teaches her about sex?

>> No.12655358

>>12655171
I don't like futa, and the art is below average.

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>>12646881
>>12646895
>>12646902

>> No.12655571
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Best girl, best Umineko, best When They Cry, mastermind culprit, and True Main Character. I love you, Maria, even if Rosa doesn't and Beato just uses you as an emotional crutch.

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>>12655571
Beato's relative indifference for Maria's fate is my only big gripe about her conduct and personality.

If it were me I would have ran off with Maria and lived happy lives as witches far away from all the evil, mean Ushiromiya family. I certainly would have had the money and means to do so.

>> No.12661150

>>12655583
I agree. It seems like Beato only ever cared about Maria during the Ep4 golden land scene, and only because Maria was nice to her. I'd go for the "Yasu was a tragic person but was really good on the inside" thing if she weren't just as guilty of using people as she accuses the family of.

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Magic is for retards!

>> No.12663272

>>12663198
Ethical!

>> No.12666256

There should be more Erika and Maria lewd images and doujins.

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>>12666256
I'm still mad about the lack of Eva-Beatrice porn, there is only one doujinshi where we can see her smooth pussy.
Too many boring Battler x Beato stories

>> No.12668774

>>12666405
In general, the amount of pork is directly correlated with the popularity of the anime in Japan. Higurashi is still moving units, so there is a steady supply of lewdity. Umineko's adaptation fell flat on it's ass, so there is very little quality lewdity. The only one to blame is Ryukishi. He should have known that the story wouldn't fit that medium.

>> No.12668815

why do people like umineko its so terrible and ruined r07's career

>> No.12668848

>>12668774
>the amount of pork

>> No.12669713
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Maria is a lewd girl.

>>12655583
>>12661150
Is there really any doubt that Yasu was legitimately insane? Don't buy into Battler's survivors' guilt where he blames himself for everything. The bitch exploited Maria's loliness in a sick magic fantasy.

>> No.12669744

>>12666405
I agree with everything here.

>> No.12674842

Would Rosa sell Maria to me for 10 tones of gold and a vibrator?

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>>12668848

>> No.12679777

>>12674842
No, but she might give you access to her if you marry her.

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>>12679777
Man, Rosa sure is the best mom.

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I want to stick it in her butthole.

>> No.12682857 [DELETED] 

>>12680481
Rosa is a terrible mom. She owns a clothing company but both her and Maria wore the same outfits for months start before the conference. Maria never once changed clothes all those times that she was wonderi BFF the streets alone at night! Did Antirosa have only one design for little girls or something? Hell, I could design a cute new outfit for lolies every single day if I had the time. Also, it's just unprofessional if Rosa wears the same clothes all the time while trying to manage a fashion company.

>> No.12682866

Rosa is a terrible mom. She owns a clothing company but both her and Maria wore the same outfits for months straight before the conference. Maria never once changed clothes all those times that she was wondering the streets alone at night! Did Antirosa have only one design for little girls or something? Hell, I could design a cute new outfit for lolies every single day if I had the time. Also, it's just unprofessional if Rosa wears the same clothes all the time while trying to manage a fashion company.

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Rosatrice is the best trice, she give you Maria just for money.

>> No.12682964 [DELETED] 

YES.

Guys! Loli Ange x Battler!
http://2dbook.com/books/45464

(Press the PDF button.)

>> No.12683883

>>12682964
That was cute! Any plot synopsis.

>> No.12683892

there's being a pedophile and then there's being attracted to maria

she's literally autistic

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>>12683892
I agree. Even normies deserve to be able to appreciate and admire Maria even though she is a child. She's made her happy life out of nothing and conjured her mother's love out of thin air. Truly an inspiration to us all. It is people like Maria that make me remember that we are just humans. This is not a war between otaku and normies, NEETS and wage slaves, pedos and faggots, antimystery and antifantasy, Rosatrice and everyone else, it is a ongoing dialogue between ideologies of the true nature of reality is. And above the blood soaked fields where we brutalize our fellow man to defend our beliefs, Maria stands with her flat chest puffed out proud to inspire us all to lay down our red swords and blue shotguns and live in harmony with her forever.

>> No.12685282

>>12685036
Amen

>> No.12686103

I want to cuddle naked with Maria, my huge boner grinding against her cute tiny kitty.

>> No.12686134

>>12686103
Grinding? Why not penetrate?

>> No.12686140

>>12686134
She's probably too tight, I don't want to hurt her.

>> No.12686563

>>12686140
She's not that tight, I checked. Rosa's boyfriends come over a lot.

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>>12686563
What a little slut.
Ok then, I'll also pound both her pussy and anus.

>> No.12687361 [DELETED] 

>>12686563
Why are trashy moms usually okay with letting grown men fuck their young, usually pre-teen daughters?

>> No.12688418

>>12687361
>trashy moms
You mean best moms, they must really love their daughter to share their boyfriends with each other.

I wonder if it happens a lot in real life...

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So was Ryukishi just trying to reinterpret Rena's home situation, or was he just fucking around.

Also, that guy who got Rena to call him daddy, that was Akihito, wasn't it? Is it the same Akihito who was Rosa's boyfriend in that thanksgiving TIP? Dude seems to have made a habit of trying to get with mothers of little girls....

>> No.12695825

Where the hell is best milf and best Umineko Rosa when I need her?

I see a lot of annoying brats that need to get slapped

>> No.12696890

>>12695825
Rosa is shit. Even if she hadn't died on Rokkenjima, she probably would have killed herself within a few years anyway. She was too broken, a lost cause. Rosa would have never been happy because she has never been happy and wouldn't recognize the feeling of she ever felt it. It's good that best witch Gohda put her out off her misery.

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Maria-Battler OTP

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>> No.12711755

>>12695825
Rosa looks like a weird way to spell Eva.

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>> No.12713101

>>12711750
Battler should take Maria and Loli Ange and used the money to elope with them.

>> No.12714022

>>12695734
Most of the Uminekos are just a combination of one or more Higurashis.

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Looks like Maria can't carry her own thread!

>> No.12719839

>>12719713
Neither can Erika.

>> No.12724490

Temporary Umineko - Higurashi thread?

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>>12724490
Why temporary? Maria is the best Umineko. Let's discuss all the ways she's better than *rika

>> No.12724945

>>12724551
While watching Higurashi, I think that Rena is proto-type, more teen version of Maria.

>> No.12724991

>>12685036
Nah.
She's an annoying little squirt I'll give you that.

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>> No.12726311

>>12725532
Stupid westaboo. Who the fuck elongates the consonant at the beginning of a word instead of the first vowel?

>> No.12726595

What are Maria's ten desires?

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how many "friends" do you have on phone /jp/?

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>>12727424
One. Talked to him just last year. Guess that makes me officially...

COOLER THAN BERN

>> No.12727494

Fire, piss, etc

>> No.12727516

>>12726311
westaboos

>> No.12727994

>>12727484
Bad pun, very stupid.

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>>12727494
I'd post it, but last time I got a thirty day ban.

>> No.12728898

>>12728292
Meido did it?

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>>12728898
No, it was a ban for loli.

>> No.12731533

>>12731506
Happens to me too on occasion and half the time it isn't even that lewd. I hate the SJW mods so much.

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>>12731533
I've gotten questionable bans before, but that one was quite possibly not only deserved, but also earned.

>> No.12733348

>>12727424
Shouldn't she at least have Lambda and Ikuko's number?

>> No.12733435

>>12733348
I don't know. Bern's relationship with Lambda is complicated. Sometimes she acts like Lambda annoys the shit out of her and stalks her, other times she seems to love her. Same with Ikuko. She seems annoyed that she shows up, but Bern was the one who wrote her a letter telling her all about how hard the game was. Bern is fucking crazy.

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>>12731577
Not him, but I get a 3 day ban whenever I make a loli thread. I also got a 3 day ban for posting 'NSFW'; pic related.

>> No.12737614

Happy Thanksgiving for Maria!

>> No.12737622

Does anyone have the Okamikakushi soundtrack? The torrents for it are long dead.

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>> No.12742528

>>12741921
Gross. Maria skills be flat.

>> No.12742535

>>12741921
Look at that vulva and those horribly proportioned hips.

>> No.12743006

>>12742535
>>12742528
That's what you take issue with? Her face couldn't be more autistic if she was trying. She looks like the kids in special ed class that can stop masturbating in public. It makes me want to smash her retarded face in.

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>>12743006
Maria is not retarded. You are retarded.

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>>12724945
Does that mean that Maria makes delicious pickles?

>> No.12749716

>>12748799
She is 9 years old and still believes in magic!

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>>12749716
Believing in magic is fine. Kill yourself, strict anti-fantasy faggot.

But.... how much does Maria really believe? EP6 drones on and on about the nature of magic, specifically that it is just a cover up for the method to produce a result. Ange's has a discussion with Ryu's self-insert in the meta-meta-metaverse about how the witch side uses red to protect that secret, but they can't do that safely if they don't know the facts or can invent senarios where the result was obtained with a naturalistic method (otherwise, the witch will not be able to construct the red truth behind them without logic error should the human side get to close). So, if Maria did not know the (or at least some) truth about how the candy got in the cup, then how was she using red, and why did she know when to stop?

Then, Maria abandons the magic and Black Witch shit pretty quickly at the end of EP2. Sure, that could be said to be Beato giving her a happy end, but the piece can't do what the real Maria would never do. There is also evidence, via her diary, where she would describe miserable, lonely days, then tack magic on the end to lift her spirits.

I don't think that Maria believed in magic a whole lot more than Yasu herself.

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>>12655571
>best girl
witch, please
>>12663198
>>12719713
These guys know what's up.

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>>12762566
You have respectable taste, but EVA's better.

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>>12762660
EVA... Oh right, the dumbass who denied herself in red and only appeared in two novels. We clearly disagree on the meaning of 'better'.

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>>12762816
She was in 3, 6, and 8
And EVA's a more fun person. That pure happiness that doesn't require constant mysteries and "muh euphoria". Just break shit. It's great.

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Rosa is best witch and best culprit and best child abuser and best main character.

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>>12762898
Any dumbass can wreck shit, but Erika wrecks shit with style.

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>>12762898
Look that smile. You saying you don't want to protect that smile?

>> No.12763140

How do we fix Umineko?

>> No.12763167

>>12763140
We don't. It's not broken.

>> No.12763177

>>12763140
Steam greenlight

>> No.12763370

>>12763177
That would make me so happy. I would convince so many of the burned to go watch KnownNoMore's Rosatrice videos sup none of the find Beatrice's heart.

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Would you be willing to stick your dick inside Rosa and telling her you love her, if it meant that she would stop being a slut and start being a good mom?

>> No.12767365

>>12763140

Umineko is fixed, however, we are in the failed world where it was never fixed. Thus we have EP6,7,8 as they are, instead of being good.

>> No.12772968

>>12767349
No. Maria abuse was some of the best parts. I wish there was a yukkuri equivalent for Umineko.

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>>12772968
Rude, horrible person.

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I would have preferred Maria as Satoko.

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>> No.12784785

>>12661150
>>12669713
Was Yasu a pedo?
- A weakness for little girls
- Thinks that he is a scum subhuman all the time
- Says that if anyone knew his secret, they would hate him and possibly hurt him
- Gets involved in romantic relationships to cover up his secret

Seems suspicious.

>> No.12786671

>>12784785
Little girls are innocent. A big theme in umineko is child-like innocence vs. adult ignorances and greed

>> No.12786960

>>12784785
Sadly, I've not seen any doujins exploring this theory.

>> No.12787131

>>12784785
Pretty sure that losing your balls eliminates sex drive.

But let's not be so quick to judge Yasu as a pedo. She had a very sad life and Maria was the only one who didn't treat her like scum or use her, and could understand her pain. They had a very destructive relationship and Yasu's presence probably drove Maria to far darker places than she would have otherwise gone (and vice versa). I don't think this is a weakness for little girls specifically. She would have formed a codependent relationship with anyone who came along and fit similar parameters.

Also, self-loathing and fear of outing is no exclusive to pedos. Even some fags do that today, when it's apparently considered cool. Yasu let herself be roped into those relationships because she can't say no to anything, not because she was hiding anything.

>> No.12791610

>>12787131
Yasu treats Maria like furniture. She's happy to play with Maria, right up until Battler comes around, at which point, fuck Maria. Then, when Battler fails him, Maria's left to pick up the pieces. She also convinces Maria to help him kill everyone by telling her it would make her mother love her. Yasu doesn't even fucking believe in magic! What a shitty, horrible human being. I have no sympathy for him and I'm fucking glad he's dead.

>> No.12791641

>>12791610
Who says he's dead?

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>>12791641
The fact that there is still justice left in the world.

>> No.12798030

Is Umineko, at it's core, a fantasy story or a mystery story?

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>>12796634
Why is that image so strangely arousing?

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>>12798032
You get to see Satoko's bare legs while her dress rides high.

Or you may have a syringe fetish.

For comparison, how do you feel about this?

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>>12798038
Obviously, but the art is so bad. It might have been drawn by Ryukishi himself.

Am I becoming like one of those freaks who are so depraved that they can get off on ZUN art?

>> No.12804121

>>12798030
I think Ryukishi might say at it's core it's a romance story.

>> No.12804334

>>12804121
In a Shakespearean tragedy sort of way.

>> No.12805901

>>12804334
This. I'd say it's more a tragedy than anything. Unfortunately, that doesn't sit well with many since Ryu constantly advertised it as a mystery.

>> No.12808767

>>12798030
It's a psychological drama.

>> No.12808794

>>12798030
It's not mystery, since there's no answer.

>> No.12808825

>>12787131
>Pretty sure that losing your balls eliminates sex drive.
Mmm, no.

>> No.12809118

>>12798048
I want to sigma epsilon lambdadelta's alfa and omega.

>> No.12814479

>>12798030
It's a slasher horror\suspense story. I didn't even know there was a mystery until /jp/ told me.

>> No.12818512
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>>12809118
Doesn't everybody? Just look at her.

>> No.12818725

>>12809118
I want to give Lambda the Delta.

>> No.12818752

>>12818512
I want to bang her ass so hard she can't even walk straight for a week and frown each time she tries to sleep.

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>>12818752
That's kind of rude, don't you think?

Also, Bern strikes me as the anal girl, not Lambda.

>> No.12819811

>>12819807
I'm not into cats. Bestiality is a sin.
Lambdadelta is fair game, however.

>> No.12820358

I wish Maria had had interaction with the higher level witches instead of just Erika, Beato, and Ange. Auaurora probably would have liked her, but Bern and Lambda I don't know. On one hand, Bern may sympathize with her because Rika never got along with her mother either, but she doesn't seem to have much sympathy for anything at all. I can't even guess about Lambda. Even Virgilia would have been nice and maybe explained Mariage Sorciere more (fucking R07 and his ambiguous bullshit).

>> No.12823085

>>12820358
I wish that there had been an angry, hate-sex scene between Erika and Maria.

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>>12823085
Erika isn't a dyke, she's just going through a phase when she fawns over Bern. It's similar to Kaori's infatuation with Sakaki in Azumanga. She obviously wants Battler's cock.

Maria is pure and is still grieving Sakutaro and would never be lured away from her love of the pathetic brat by a blue haired spawn of hell.

>> No.12832139
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Merry Christmas for Maria!

>> No.12833129

>>12832139
Imagine Maria sitting at home at Christmas, having Sakutaro convince her that she is happy, while Rosa screams with pleasure from the dick in her ass and her vag by some foreign businessmen she met in a bar and got shitfaced with.

Delicious.

>> No.12833156

>>12833129
Hot!

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>> No.12836889

>>12834106
She must be the one to deliver the lumps of coal.

>> No.12837164

>>12834106
Evatrice is easily the most erotic Umineko. So much sexier thn Eva herself.

She was also a much better villian than Erika. Evatrice was both evil but she knew how to have fun with magic, while Erika was evil just because she was a cunt. Pity she was so little-used and Batora didn't send her an invite to the ep8 party. There was really no reason for her to be on Bern's team anyway.

Also, sex with Evatrice! Feeling her developing adolescent body as you take her dress off! Her heart fluttering as you kiss her neck!

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>>12837164
Horrible tastes. Erika is definately the most erotic.

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>>12841845
The Rikas are always the lewdest because their source was a lewd girl.

>> No.12845385

>>12837164
My nigga

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>>12837164
Evatrice a cutie

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Which one?

>> No.12857473

Happy New Year for Maria!

>> No.12857480

>>12852375
They're both great but I will say Evatrice

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>>12852375
If I pick Erika does Dlanor come with her?

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>>12859068
Dlanor in casual clothes is cute.

>> No.12863990

>>12862559
But is she anatomically correct underneath those clothes?

>> No.12864323

>>12863990

You could find out, but then you'd probably have to DIE THE DEATH

>> No.12868074

>>12864323
Or she could fall in love. If not, it is still worth it.

For example, would you refrain from cuddling with Rumia, just because she would kill you afterward? Of course not. Doing some lewd with Dan or is just like that.

>> No.12868077

I want to fuck Dlanor's drills.

>> No.12868139

>>12868077
Please don't, it takes her hours to make them every day.

>> No.12868418

>>12868139
Even better, now I have a massive erection. I love you Dlanor!

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>> No.12872303

>>12872233
Dlanor a cute!

>> No.12872675

>>12872233
Dlanor in love!

>> No.12873198

Did Maria die? Please say no.

>> No.12873208

>>12873198
She died very painfully.

>> No.12873624

>>12873198
Actually, she's the only one we can confirm dead, given that her jaw was found with matching dental records. The others could have dumped her there for being annoying and went to party in Kinzo's secret subway. But no matter what, >>>/jp/maria-died-on-rokkenjima .

The question is, where was she when a hundred tons of explosives went off that her jaw was not instantly disintegrated with the rest of her body?

>> No.12877066

Dlanor is just a palette swapped Shinku.

>> No.12877073

I want to lick Dlanor's smooth pussy.

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I want Ange to dom me and call me worthless filth.

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Touching Maria!

>> No.12880415

>>12880174
Where?

>> No.12885742

>>12880415
Her flat chest and inner thigh, hopefully.

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Dlanor is a clean girl.

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Mother-daughter threesome with Maria and Rosa!

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>>12891396
Rosa is disgusting.

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How is Lambda not fat? A diet of all sweets and Angeburger should make her fat.

>> No.12898704

>>12895572
Sex with Bern all the time.

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>>12895572
Magic.

>> No.12901746

I wanna fuck Maria so hard

>> No.12904188

>>12895572
Lambda\Jooji OTP
They can lounge around eating popcorn and fried chicken, then George can get a taste of cotton candy at night.

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>> No.12913620 [DELETED] 

>>12901746
She's a total slut so she'd let you

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>>12913620
What a good girl!

>> No.12913962 [DELETED] 

If you were maria's mom would you raise her with proper love and care, /jp/?

>> No.12914023

>>12913962
I would let my boyfriends fuck her while I watch.

>> No.12914307

>>12913962
I would quit my job and live on welfare and Ushiromiya handouts and cuddle with her every night.

>> No.12917242

>>12913962
With minimal lewdity, I promise.

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>>12914023
Bad!
>>12914307
Good!
>>12917242
Umm...!

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>> No.12926277

>>12921469
Foreplay with Maria!

>> No.12926283

>>12926277
Lewd

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>> No.12933035

Maria is love
Maria is life

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>>12933035
But above all, Maria is DEAD.

>> No.12933081

>>12933049
some good dat dumass magic did her LOL

>> No.12935481

>>12933049
False! That is just Kyrie posturing to try to through Eva off guard and make her do something stupid. Maria escaped with Battler!

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Terrifying Maria!

>> No.12940811

>>12940695
She's crying because nobody is fucking her tiny pussy right now.

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>> No.12947742

What's the best Umineko episode?

>> No.12948356

>>12947742
3 or 5.

>> No.12948422

>>12948356
3 for delicious Evatrice
5 for saucy Erika

>> No.12948526

>>12947742
Personally, I vote for 5. 4 is close behind.

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>>12947742
2

>> No.12950418

>>12947742
Either 7 or 8.

>> No.12950930

>>12947742
3 > 5 = 4 > 8 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 6

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Furudo Erika is mai waifu

>> No.12952222

>>12951935
Good taste

>> No.12952403

Was the ability for anons to redtext on 4chan really removed?

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>>12951935
I don't really into waifus, but if I did, I would an Erika.

>> No.12952423

>>12952403
>>>/n/ot-really

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I think that if I was going to "be" someone in another world, it'd be Bern.

>> No.12958056

>>12956535
Bern is miserable and never has any fun. Lambda would be best.

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>>12958056
Bern has lots of fun.

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>>12958056
Someone hasn't read the ????s

>> No.12961191

Bern has no friends, what a loser. Even slimy Beato had Gaap.

>> No.12962190

>>12959435
I want to lick her pussy.

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>>12962190
Did you know that there's a naked version of that picture?

I didn't post it because /jp/ is a blue board, but I'm sure you could find it on your own.

>>12961191
Did you not read Episode 8?

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>>12962201
Found it, thanks!

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>>12962228
I'm just glad that the love of Bern is spreading.

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>>12962201
>Did you not read Episode 8?
Did you? Face facts already. Bern is a loser. Lambda is the closest thing she has, and that's because Lambda refuses to leave her alone, and she lets Featherine kill her without a second thought. She hates Featherine, but has no other choice of who to turn to when she can't figure out the game. Lambda and Erika are the only two that seem to like her, and they mostly want to get up her skirt. When Erika died in EP6, she was thankful that Bern wasn't there because she knew Bern never liked or appreciated her efforts. When tears, blood, and vomit cover Bern's face as Battler beat her, she looks to Auau for help, and she just doesn't care. It's only after she loses Lambda, Auau abandons her, and Battler beats the shit out of her and puts her in her place that she starts being nicer to people.

Also consider that both Lambda and Featherine sided with Battler. How awful do you have to be to have people like that fucking retard Ushiromiya Battler over you?

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>>12962871
She doesn't have friends in the conventional sense, but she isn't exactly completely alone. I'd much rather have a few sentient toys than friends, especially if one of those toys was Furudo Erika.

And Lambda to fuck/murder on the side.

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>>12963609
Well then you're just as broken as she is. You want to isolate yourself because you are scared of getting hurt, just like Bern. I know people like Bern. She acts all cool and silent and will say one thing, but will lie awake at night thinking about it for hours because she is so insecure. Despite being a super powerful witch (and note that her heart breaks every time she uses her power of miracles) who can travel between kakera, she's sensitive enough that Lambda has to warn Battler not to make her cry.

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>>12964390
Everyone's broken. I just think that Bernkastel is broken in a much more appealing way than most other characters.

As for Lambda warning Battler not to make her cry, I can't help but think that's a joke.

>> No.12966858

i just finished my reread of the first game, moving onto Chiru now.
For the whole Episode 4 I was telling myself I remember why it was one of the worst, with endless Ange sections and Maria memories before it was really shown that there was no magic at all in her deluded life.

But then the ending. Those songs.
Victima Propiciatoria, Mortal Stampede, dir, Endless Nine

It's like they told dai to make the best he could out of everything and dumped all of his best stuff one after the other while the climax kept rolling. It was enough to wipe away all the negativity I had about the episode and make me lie awake thinking of how great it went.
Too bad about the false ending.

What's your episode rankings, /jp/?
First part
3 > 4 > 2 > 1

>> No.12966884

Is anyone else annoyed by the voice acting? The first time I played I couldn't stand that no one had the same voice they had in my head when it was just text, and the emotion in the words felt strained at times. I just had to turn it off to enjoy the PS3 sprites properly.

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>>12966884
>Playing with voice acting
>Not playing with original sprites

>> No.12966935

>>12966858

It's tough for me to decide, but I know at least this much:

5 > 4 > (others) > 8

>> No.12966958

>>12966935
>8 last

Is it because it gives you the solution? Or because it's not really an 'episode' in the sense the others have been?

>> No.12967008

>>12966958
I actually found it quite enjoyable. Particularly, I loved the whole "City of Books" fantasy setting; I'd love to read more in that vein.

I just didn't think it was quite as good as the others. It's a matter of "great, but least great."

Well, maybe I'd put it over 6.

>> No.12967840

>>12966884
>the same voice they had in my head
Jesus christ, what are you, 5 years old? Who the fuck makes up different voices for the characters when reading? I'm starting to think all the original version defenders are just manchildren.

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umineko_theories.png

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>>12967905

>> No.12969004

>>12967840
Have you ever read anything? It's like the first argument for books against movies, the way people will often say "I pictured the character different" or "I thought they'd sound different".

It's not that you have a clear voice for them in your mind, it's the general feeling, what you feel that person is like, and a voice can be completely different from that feeling.

Not having that isn't a manchildren thing, it just means being detached from the story.

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>>12965060
I think Lambda nailed it with that bully thing harder than Shion did Satoko's fingers. Bern may have escaped the logic error, but she left her heart behind. She's so damaged that she is unable to interact with others as equals. She always thinks that someone is trying to abuse her, so she lashes out. Even when she doesn't think that, she feels compelled to assert her power anyway. For instance, Beato. Beato was just a pathetic witch trying to romance a guy by murdering his family. Sure, she may not have had it the worst, but Bern took it as an extreme offense. She was the one who hurt the most. So she took it on her self to punish her. She was so pissed by the audacity that someone else might be sad, that she ran to someone she hated to get help. I also think that Erika had a very good point in EP6 when she noted that her beloved master was just another delusional witch running from the truth. That's related to another thing that Lambda said about Bern. She is the Witch Who Waits for Miracles. And that's exactly what Rika did. She gave up trying to combat her fate and just waited until coincidence (and possibly divine intervention) saved her. All Bern know show to do is hide under the covers and hope that she doesn't get hurt.

>> No.12974380

Why did the last chapters have to go so wrong?
The mystery of just chapter 1 tops all the stupid magic bullshit and 500 unnecessary characters.

>> No.12975709

>>12974380
Then go read And Then There Were None and fuck off.

>> No.12977049

I was reading and, reaching the sixth game, I wondered.
Virgilia says in the fifth game that all the clues have been given already in the first four games, and that reading those you can reach the truth in any moment.

Does it mean there truly is everything you need to discover the truth of the island until then, or is it the same as the epitaph, which is technically 'solvable' without being given all the elements, but requires leaps of logic comparable to solving a sudoku board in which you're only given four numbers?
I wanted to actually sit down and try to think about things, like when the detective calls up everyone and says he can announce the culprit, but first I would like to know if it's an effort worth doing.

By the way, by possible I don't mean "Knowing the solution, you can see the path to it"
I mean
"Would someone with 0 spoilers, 0 idea of the truth and 0 idea of the shape of the heart, given time to think, ever reach the core?"

>> No.12977057

>>12977049
Further on that, they say the epitaph is solvable without knowing what the beloved hometown is, but when I found out what it was, I was flabbergasted to see what it was. They even have the gall to say "It doesn't matter discovering it if you can figure out the rest".
The epitaph is pretty much impossible if you're not a character in the setting, or plainly given the hometown. It's almost a violation of Knox's laws, using this kind of never given element as if it was something you could reason out.

>> No.12977802

>>12977057
And yet someone did figure out the epitaph, well before Umineko ended.

>>12977049
It's difficult, but not impossible. Some Western fans onlines were coming up with theories very near the real solution, before Episode 6-7 made it all but explicit.

>> No.12977824

>>12977802
I won't stoop down as low of a level as declaring that it's just a few crazy fans above the rest, so it doesn't count.
What I'm saying, borrowing the game's own words, is that what they did was the equivalent of being told that the place you're looking is in the world, so you take an atlas and try every single place that exists until one works.

Of course, they had the luxury of having the place being restricted by some conditions, but it was still pretty crazy, enough that the resolution was akin to throwing solutions until one stuck. Especially considering that even once you get the key to the golden land the rest of the journey is arduous to make if you're not a character who can actually traverse physical places.

While solutions for the games can be figured out if you're used to the genre and if you're creative with wording (something I'll admit I'm not smart enough to do without enough details), the epitaph alone I don't believe was properly solvable until at least towards the second half you're given the hometown, or at least the writing on the chapel is explicitly said, instead of occulted for no reason.

It's a writing on an arch in plain sight. Not saying right away and precisely what was written on it was just a narrative trick, not actual difficulty.

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>>12977824
It's "Something, something, quadrillion to one, something something.".

I was going to say that Maria translated it for Battler during HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA, but after failing to find a screencap of it, I looked a the script and realized that you were right, she didn't. The first time Quadrillion is mention is when Beato is taunting Battler with all the stuff he can't do, then
>`"...............`@`'This door is opened only at a probability of a quadrillion to one.`@` You will be blessed only at a probability of a quadrillion to one'.`@` ......I don't know it.`@` Nothing like this ever showed up in the epitaph or Onee-chan's diary."`\
in EP4, while Ange is visiting Kumasawa's son and looks at Kumasawa's old things. (Kinda odd that he lost an ATM card but kept his mother's garbage around for over a decade).

Then,
>`............What a shame.`@` I even bet on the one in a quadrillion chance of a miracle,`@` that you might really be Ushiromiya Battler.`@` However, it looks like you're a different person with the same first and last names after all."`\
then Bern to Lambda
>`Well, this is a world of endless Fragments.`@` The chances of us having some connection again somewhere are probably less than one in a quadrillion.`@` ............Alright, it was fun.`@` Bye-bye."`\
So it did have a bit of emphasis in EP4 after it was introduced. More important hints to more important things were given less attention.

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>> No.12986500
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>> No.12987612

Wow, three months. Take that Rikafags.

>> No.12988117

>>12987612
Maria is worth it!

>> No.12988534
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>>12967905
I haven't posted on /jp/ for five or six years, but came back for Umineko.

>> No.12989006

>>12987612
/jp/ is full of love for Maria!

>> No.12989556

>>12988534
So, you never postes on /jp/, but came to post the worst girl?

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>>12989556
Erika worst girl? Motherfucker I will fight you IRL

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>>12989666
>erika
>not being a piece of shit

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>>12989686
How rude!

>> No.12989713

>>12989702
Sorry mate, but your waifu a shit.
>arrives on an island
>treats everyone like shit
>bullies maria
>annoys the fuck out of Battler to get his dick, goes crazy when she can't
>never got laid

>> No.12989773

Why are you even arguing about whether Erika is a shit or not when the biggest shit of all is the retard baby this thread is about?

>> No.12989784

>>12989773
Go away Erika.

>> No.12990082

>>12989773
Maria broke her habit of playing with dolls when she was 9. Erika is, like what, 15 at least, and still plays with dolls! What a fucking loser. Worst of all, Dlanor hates her! Is there anything more pathetic than having your imaginary friend hate you?

>> No.12990104

>>12990082
>Is there anything more pathetic than having your imaginary friend hate you?
SHUT THE FUCK UP

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>>12989556
have some vintage jp

>> No.12993604 [DELETED] 

>>12990082
You know you'd Lodi with Dlanor too.

>> No.12993612

>>12990082
You know you'd play with Dlanor too.

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>>12993612
I would! Dlanor a cutie.

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>>12996404
Dlanor a bigot. You'd say something slightly counter to her ideology and she'd execute you on the spot.

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>>12999411
Would fuck

>> No.12999553

Could Dlanor beat up Shikieiki?

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>>12999553
In a cuteness and sexiness fight, absolutely.

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Erika has been mai waifu for several years now.

Never changed.

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>>13001820
Usually people grow out of that sort of thing by now. There is no Rika, but Rika.

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>>13002862
'mii-'s and 'Nippa~'s get old after a while.

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>>13010470
The face of Down's Syndrome.

>> No.13011012

>>13010962
That's the sexiest down's syndrome face I've seen!

>> No.13011266

>>13010962
I still don't know which face is being referred to.

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>>13010470

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>>13011361
Meet me half way on this.

>> No.13012628

I'm just done with EP6, and before going onto EP7, which Featherine says will be the 'cold reveal of the truth', I want to ask any of you who already know of the heart of Umineko.
Is this true? Is EP7 going to give me all the answers on a silver platter?

If that's the case, I'd like to think of the answer on my own for a little while before that, but I was wondering about something, before I even tackle the attempt.

Just how difficult is the heart? I get that the 'love' you need to see things is probably less love and more about the ability to judge someone's actions with flexibility, without being swayed too much by who they are. What I want to know is how far I have to leap with logic to reach the solution and, most importantly, what to avoid.

It's implied multiple times in all the games where the goats appear that the goats are supposed to represent a certain way of thinking, especially during the resolution of the logic error. Is that something easily explainable without giving away the solution?

What does one have to avoid if seeking the heart?
And what is the direction in which I should search?

>> No.13012686

>>13012628

EP 7 doesn't answer everything. It confirms a few suspicions, and provides incredibly vague and unspecific answers for the mysteries in each game (stuff like "Illusions to illusions" as opposed to "Kanon never existed and so there was no need for a corpse").

>> No.13012690

>>13012628
>Is this true? Is EP7 going to give me all the answers on a silver platter?
Not in the way you expect, or probably want.

>Just how difficult is the heart?
Suppose a man goes to his brother's funeral and meets a woman and they get along well. Afterward, he wants to see her again, but never got his name. So he kills his sister. Why? So there would be another funeral. Simple as that. But it probably wasn't anything you thought of, because it's abnormal logic (and slightly stupid) that no reasonable person would have thought, and only a pathetically desperate would come to that conclusion.

>Just how difficult is the heart?
It varies wildly. Ryu claims that it's easier for women. Make of that what you will.

>What I want to know is how far I have to leap with logic to reach the solution and, most importantly, what to avoid.
LOL.

>It's implied multiple times in all the games where the goats appear that the goats are supposed to represent a certain way of thinking, especially during the resolution of the logic error. Is that something easily explainable without giving away the solution?
The goats sometimes are the anti-fantasy who rip out the guts of the story. Other times they don't mean much. Kind of like the Chiestas, who sometimes are Maria's toys, other times, something else.

>What does one have to avoid if seeking the heart?
The solution.

>And what is the direction in which I should search?
The heart and the truth are not the same thing.

>> No.13012694

>>13012686
Alright, I'll read it then.
How about EP8?
Or my questions about reaching the solution?

Does reading the whole thing give you the one true truth, or is it just a collection of increasingly big hints?

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>>13012694
EP 8 is where Ryukishi says he hates his audience and fanbase and they ruined everything.

>> No.13012702

>>13012694
>>How about EP8?
Ryu pulled some shit that a lot of people weren't happy about. Don't expect a clear solution to anything. It's mostly him masturbating to himself and his magnum opus.

>> No.13012703

>>13012690
Is the heart a part of the solution then?
Or an element necessary to understanding the one truth?

>> No.13012705

>>13012696
Righteous, justifiable anger. Shame on the fanbase for wanting some sort of conclusion and closure after buying the product 8 times.

>> No.13012714

>>12808794
>implying the answer wasn't small bombs

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>>13012705
My biggest problem with it is that the "solution" was ugly. I understood the plot, I just disagreed with the message and understanding of reality that was contained within it.

I have a very different understanding of love compared to Ryukishi, and that was my biggest disappointment with the story.

>> No.13012725

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PzilquQlBE

>> No.13012749

>>13012718
I'll ask one last question before leaving the thread and going back to reading.
Has the final truth been reached, or are we still at the stage in which one person's theory might have as much ground as another's?
I mean, once I've read everything, thought things over, and made a theory, is there somewhere I can go to check my answers, or will I just have to guess "Oh well, I guess my answer works"

>> No.13012753

>>13012749
There's an actual choice made by the player/reader in Episode 8.

As for the mystery...mostly confirmed, some people believe you can craft alternate theories.

>> No.13012754

>>13012749
>truth

There is no truth in Umineko. Have fun, and be grateful that you at least didn't lose any money in this process, only large amounts of time.

>> No.13012763

>>13012754
>>13012753

Is the "multiple truths" thing something that means the tale can be rewritten as many times as you like as long as you follow the rules, or an actual admission that there's no true conclusion?

So far what I understand is that the 'games' have rules only in the sense that they have to match with what 'really' happened in some way, so the premise, at least the one I reached, crumbles if there's not even a true basis to stand on.

>> No.13012765

>>13012703
This thread is now 99 days old. Wow.

>Is the heart a part of the solution then?
It's part of the truth, but the truth, The Truth, and what actually happened are not necessarily the same.

>Or an element necessary to understanding the one truth?
That's a tricky question. The universe and the place of reality and the various meta levels in it were always a bit underdetermined, but EP8 removes any foundation from which to sort it out. There's only interpretations, and a lot of stuff doesn't mesh with the anti-fantasy interpretation that you are given a glimpse of. There's bullshit with Bern trolling everyone by pointing out the subjectivity of the red that can basically be used to prove anything (``I didn't lie, I just redefined what `not' means and forgot to tell you!''). It also pushes the idea that everyone gets to decide their own truth, so you can go ahead and believe Gohdatrice and you can probably quote enough tricks in EP8 to justify it.

It's actually not so bad. I had fun. You may not be happy with it, but it does leave avenues for discussion that Higurashi closed, for better or worse.

>>13012749
BEATRICE DID IT WITH MAGIC.There is no official canon truth, but there is one solution that Ryu seems to have supported that matches everything, and there is another ... interesting ... one on Youtube that spans eight hours. Those are closely followed by Mariatrice and Gohdatrice.

>> No.13012773

>>13012765
I've heard the term "Prime" being thrown around a lot, is that what people refer as "What 'really' happened"?

If the story is a mystery and not a fantasy, it means that there's a span of 48 hours that are completely realistic, regardless of whatever number of planes and parallel fragments you throw at it.
Those 48 hours also have to be unique.
Have those 48 hours been decyphered?

>> No.13012777

>>13012773
Please don't open the box, Anonymous. You wouldn't want to be some mean-spirited goat, would you?

>> No.13012781

>>13012777
Wouldn't opening the box give you the tools to craft a lot more tales?
In a way, it's not spoiling the party.

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Personally I'm of the belief that Episode 7's "game" is the truth of Rokkenjima Prime.

>> No.13012790

>>13012763
>Is the "multiple truths" thing something that means the tale can be rewritten as many times as you like as long as you follow the rules
No, that's the cat-box thing and Endless Magic.

>an actual admission that there's no true conclusion?
Kinda. The truth is never confirmed in a verifiable way (so don't expect any red that can't be bullshitted away).

>So far what I understand is that the 'games' have rules only in the sense that they have to match with what 'really' happened in some way
Oh boy...

>>13012773
>I've heard the term "Prime" being thrown around a lot, is that what people refer as "What 'really' happened"?
Exactly.

>If the story is a mystery and not a fantasy, it means that there's a span of 48 hours that are completely realistic, regardless of whatever number of planes and parallel fragments you throw at it.
As long as the cat-box stays closed, you can make up anything you want. Again, this has nothing to do with the heart.

>Have those 48 hours been decyphered?
Yes! In universe, Eva's diary holds a record of the true events of those two days. You'll never get to see it. Ange's reaction to it... leaves it pretty ambiguous. You can interpret it in a few ways.

>>13012781
Not in an Endless Magic. The standard interpretation is pretty lackluster, but pretty realistic.

>> No.13012800

>>13012790
I recall something about a bomb that makes the whole island explode.
This may be me misremembering a lot about the time I read Umineko years ago.

Is that a thing

>> No.13012806

>>13012790
Wait, if the diary of Eva is the one true solution, even in-Universe, doesn't this mean that any theory HAS to allow an alive Eva and everyone else has to die?
This isn't even a matter or red truth or illusion, showing the future or 'reality' in which Eva lives means the true 48 hours have to leave her alive.

>> No.13012845

>>13012800
Yes. That's the source of Endless Magic. It closes the catbox and allows for many tales to speculate on what ``really'' happened those two days when Rokkenjima was cut off from the world. If the island hadn't been blown up, the police would have found the bodys and determined what had happened. As it is, only Maria's jaw was found and confirmed to be her, so she is the only one who is actually confirmed to have died (presumably, the police have detective's authority and Ryu wouldn't lie to the reader by having them lie, right?).

>>13012806
Maybe. Bern confirmed in red that it contained the truth, but latter bullshit her way out of it. When she confirmed it in EP7, Ange cut her off before she could end the sentence in a period and tore herself apart in horror. In EP8 she explains to Ange that that truth was referencing the EP7 gameboard. Later, Ange reads the diary and kills herself again. If it was really what was shown in EP7, why did she react so poorly to being shown something that she had already believed and was shown in red? If Bern convinced her that it wasn't true in reality, then why is Ange so stupid? Ange should know not to trust Bern. That would be like the twentieth time she betrayed her. And yet Maria is called the retard. You can also interpret Ange's red ``none of my family came home'' to mean Eva died as well. Various other things can show that Eva\Ange's world isn't prime either. As said, EP8 takes away a lot of the foundation.

>> No.13013069

This thread has been up for over three months.

Three fucking months!

And all of you as well!

>> No.13014406 [DELETED] 

>>13012628
>>13012694

Whoa, watch out for this advice. EP7 doesn't solve every single individual question. It does, however, give away all of the main secrets and "core" behind the whole game.

It is akin to rising up the curtain in the "Wonderful Wizard of Oz," and showing the man behind the curtain.

If you want to stop and thank and figure things out by yourself, for god's sake, stop before reading EP7.

Also, as to the difficulty: it's hard-core difficulty, but all the clues are three, from EP 1 through 6.

>> No.13014415

>>13012628
>>13012694

Whoa, watch out for this advice. EP7 doesn't solve every single individual question. It does, however, give away all of the main secrets and "core" behind the whole game.

It is akin to rising up the curtain in the "Wonderful Wizard of Oz," and showing the man behind it.

If you want to stop and thank and figure things out by yourself, for god's sake, stop before reading EP7.

Also, as to the difficulty: it's hard-core difficult, but all the clues are there, from EP 1 through 6.

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>> No.13019168

>>13012845
I don't really think Ange's red would include Eva. She couldn't see love for her even with the help of Featherine and even after understanding you need love to see things from a different perspective.

True, the red truth is subjective, also due to Knox's 9th, but precisely because of that I struggle to believe Ange would be crestfallen about Eva not coming back, so much as to include her in the definition of 'family'

>> No.13020794

>>13017484
Bukkake for Maria!

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>>13019168
Is there only one Ange? Ange made quite a lot of character development in EP4, by after she died in that one, it was all gone and she was back to being cynical, bitter, and annoying.

>>13020794
Gross.

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