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For you /jp/sies would read Dream and Reality, what did you think of it?

Are there any other similar works that have been translated?

>> No.12630663
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>Explicit and overbearing yurishit

Trash. At least make it subtle.

>> No.12630673

>>12630663
It was like, two kisses in 210 pages. Stop being a yuri hating plebeian and join the secondary side

>> No.12630680

I like it, cried at the second meeting at Kourin shop when everything's going to hell.

Though I heard there is an extended version with Byakushit and Koishi, Alice and the likes, can't find it though.

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>>12630673
I'm only a secondary for straight pairings, dykemaster.

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>>12630680
Is this some sort of trap to get me to spend 10+ hours finding an extended version that doesn't exist? Regardless, the search begins.

That second meeting was pretty amazing, when Rinnosuke revealed the truth to Renko. I only got teary at the scene where Maribel and Renko kissed before Maribel disappears again. The ending was also rather depressing, if you don't include the epilogue where Renko resolves not to give up and recreate Gensokyo. Serious tears when Renko starts yelling Maribel's name on the hospital bed. Not to mention every time anyone said I love you the story became significantly sadder.

There were a lot of dramatic scenes, and I was far too retarded to see the twist coming so it was a pretty exciting read.

Though, a lot of things were left ambiguous. Did Maribel exist at all? Was Gensokyo wholly only Renko's delusion in her coma, Maribel's dream to save Renko, or a culmination of consciousnesses and the supernatural? Did Renko drop into a coma again to recreate Gensokyo, preferring her world of dreams to reality? Or does the supernatural actually exist in Renko's world, so she actually managed to create a paradise for all things lost? Is Renko's reality simply another dream-- she doesn't accept her fate as a tragic heroine in a novel.

I felt it could have been ended a little earlier, that epilogue was a bit unnecessary but inspiring at the same time.

I heard "Concealed the Conclusion" also had a similar story, but revolving around Marisa and Reimu instead.

>> No.12630795

>>12630741
Well, it exists, the PV here shows the parts I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlB-zHXI848

As for your questions, well, I can't answer them since they are purposely ambigious after all.

And the epilogue is indeed awesome, rather than choosing the whole keep dreaming vs facing reality in usual escapist/realist fiction, the message becomes let's work hard to make dream into reality, which is Renko (or ZUN)'s message in CoSD.

>> No.12630803

>>12630741
Then again, I only didn't like the epilogue because I'm a sucker for tragedies. In hindsight, everything in the story led to that epilogue regardless. They used Yuyuko, Marisa, Reimu, and the Lunarians pretty well to hint at how the story would unfold. The few red herrings they threw out were a bitch, though.

>> No.12630814

>>12630803
The part with Yuyuko also makes me cry pretty hard. Other factions can just leave to find new fictional realms, but not Yuyuko.

Oddly, I didn't cry at the ending because it's a slow, good end. The part with the Eiki + Komachi at the end is done very well.

>> No.12630835

>>12630795
Yeah, the epilogue was indeed great. I love aphorisms regarding strength of human character and persistence at seemingly impossible goals.

I really wanted it to be a tragedy, so I somewhat felt the epilogue was unnecessary, but it was well done and fit in the narrative. I think in any eyes other than mine, an ending where the heroine does what she wants is the best. Renko literally says ""FUCK YOU""" to those wishing for a tragedy in the epilogue, as well.

I started reading Dream and Reality due to that video, it was a pretty awesome PV. Hmm, no amount of googling is helping me find the extended part, though.

Man, Marisa's and Renko's characterization was superb. My favorite type of characters in any type of literary work. Marisa, Renko, Mokou best 2hus for this...

>> No.12630839

>>12630835
The author is a bit Marisafag, what's with the whole "No matter what's going on, I will Master Spark and Master Spark", but I forgive him this time because it's a necessary contrast with Reimu.

>> No.12630846

>>12630814
Yeah, imagining Yuyuko slowly fading out of existence as Youmu vigilantly keeps watch until the very end is depressing.

Yeah, the whole Eiki+Komachi part was good. The dichotomy between their comedic squabble and the message they conveyed made it much heavier.

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>>12630839
Did he even do anything else besides this LN? I know the artist did many other works that were rather enjoyable.

She'll shoot if you move, and she'll shoot if you don't move. If Master Spark takes up 4 consecutive pages and covers text, it better solve something.

>> No.12630862

>>12630854
The canon Marisa is a bit of a loudmouth scary cat and will yield against awesome power, though this might happen after SSiB so she has gotten over that.

>> No.12630893

>>12630700
>straight pairings

Absolutely vile.

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>>12630893
I've been called worse.

>> No.12630903

>>12630896
Shipfags are the worst.

>> No.12630909

>>12630896
Immolate yourself.

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>>12630903
You're in a shipping thread by default, lol.

>>12630909
Make me, leslord.

>> No.12631198

>>12631181
Fuck off back to tumblr

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>>12631181
I'd love to.

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>>12631198
Don't you yurifags infest that place already? It's a site made for degenerates after all.

>> No.12631271

C-can we get back to topic?

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>>12631271
What if all of /jp/ is just having an collective unconscious dream right now.

We're all having a dream of reality, and all we need to do is find the boundary that separates a dream of reality from a dream of a dream. Then you can go from a dream to another dream and live the NEET life in Gensokyo.

Alt. route: Find ancient shrine and become a shrine maiden

Why haven't you created or gone to the promised land yet.

>> No.12632337

>>12632163
I had a dream recently where I had to suck some ugly chubby guy's penis. It tasted horrible but I kept on sucking. When I up there was a terrible taste in my mouth.

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>>12632337
I hope you live alone. Or have tightly secured windows and doors. Or you aren't that flexible.

Why did you just passively suck his penis?

>> No.12632864

>>12632836
I live in one of those shared apartments with individual rooms. I had the door locked, though.

It's weird, I really dislike ugly or chubby men in any form of erotic material, I don't even feel attracted to men unless they dress and look just like cute girls, and he had a relatively small penis even though I prefer bigger ones (unless on a trap), yet I was the one who offered to suck it. It's also weird how vividly I remember the terrible taste, which was certainly bad enough to make me gag, yet I kept on willingly sucking. He even got frustrated at me because I wasn't able to get him off. I was just really determined to pleasure this dream person who wasn't anyone I knew for some reason. It was certainly the strangest dream I've had all year. I wonder if it means anything.

>> No.12633026

I want to read this

>> No.12633032

>>12632864
That is awfully strange. Have you sucked a dick before or something?
>>12633026
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/dream_and_reality

>> No.12633112

>>12633032
No, I can't think of anything recently that might have influenced the dream, either.

Maybe the door was unlocked. Even though the handle is locked, sometimes the door doesn't shut all the way if you're not careful and you can just push it open.

>> No.12633424

>>12633112
Hmm, if it strikes once it might strike again.
Go put a trap on your door.

I remember somebody in a /jp/ thread where they were talking about raping somebody else in a dream using astral projection. Maybe you were the victim

Dreams can get pretty weird, but giving oral intercourse is pretty straightforward....

>> No.12633430

Is this a Manga or one of those Youtube Series
What's it about

>> No.12633444

>>12633430
>>12633032
It's a LN, lots of spoilers in this thread.

It's about Maribel and Renko's trip to Gensokyo.

>> No.12633476

>>12633444
Is it official? I haven't explored the works outside the games

>> No.12633509

Isn't there some other book by the same artists or whoever about this?

For the life of me I can't find it online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlB-zHXI848

>> No.12633527

>>12633509
Yes. It's 600~ pages across 2 books, but it sells for about 220$ USD. I don't think anyone will scan it.
>>12633476
No, it's fanon.

>> No.12633528

>>12633509
There's also this.

http://bbs.nyasama.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21899

>> No.12633542

>>12633509
And I got all of that information in the youtube comments of the video you linked.

Apparently it's sold out completely on melonbooks, but you can look for it there to wait for a restock.

There's also a person who has both books, but can't read Japanese+doesn't want to scan since it'll damage the books. Maybe someone can beg that person to take a picture of each page and give it to somebody else to translate.

The images will be shit quality and translations will probably take a long time, but at least it'll be there.

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