/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why do Japanese pronounce it "chi" but always write it as "ti"?

[Anonymous No.]

the same reason the pronounce し as shi but write it as si

[Anonymous No.]

Why do American pronounce it "enuf" but always write it as "enough"?

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>>12609613
Because the English alphabet is not a phonetic alphabet, letters in English do not correspond directly to sounds, and therefore multiple different arrangements of letters can result in the same sound being indicated.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, what's the basis for Japanese to write differently than how it's pronounced when using English alpabhet?
Is this somehow related to how they write it in hiragana/katakana?

[Anonymous No.]

Because it belongs to the t- row of syllables, despite the differences in pronounciation.
The Nipponshiki romanization is purely symbolical and meant for domestic usage, so it doesn't strive to write syllables with English sounds like the Hepburn romanization.

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>>12609617
>pronounces herb as "erb"
>MUH NOT PHONETICS
What, are you French now?

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>>12609617

So in other words, it's payback?

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>>12609549
>>12609557
They don't "always" write it like that.
Sometimes they do, sometimes not.
It's actually more common to see ち as chi in romaji and し as shi.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking shit, I hate those enemies.
They spam Swoosh over and over.

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>>12609617
AKA English is a fucking stupid language.

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>>12615728
Blame the printing press.

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>>12609664
It's pretty annoying how people pronounce herb as "erb". There's a h right there.

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>>12609617
The English alphabet is phonetic, it just represents how things were pronounced 500 years ago.

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>>12616060
>a h

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>>12615728
If it's so stupid why are you using it? Check mate weeblords.

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>>12616445
I was raised with it and it's more ubiquitous than Japanese.

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>>12609927
It's more common only when foreign translators write it.

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>>12616060
Fucking RE5, man. "Gimme an 'erb!"

[Anonymous No.]

It's a more internally consistent system of romanization, and it's shorter to type in an IME.

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>>12616060
It's almost like the English alphabet doesn't reliably represent how words are pronounced.

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because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Japanese

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>>12609656
Where is/was Nipponshiki even used? According to Wikipedia, linguists favor it for its regularity, and it also sees some use in libraries (perhaps for collation purposes). Besides those, the only place I've seen it used is in Latin character filenames and URLs on computers, which I assume is a habit carried over from romaji input methods. Speaking of which, is it really true that it's more common for Japanese to use romaji input than a JIS keyboard layout?

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>>12609549
Did ZUN ever say how to pronouce Tewi? People call her Tei because the ゐis now obsolete, but since Tewi is a had in disguise shouldn't she be called Tewi and not Tei?

[Anonymous No.]

ち
I just typed ti

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>>12619030
Technically it'd still be Tewi because ゐ was never rendered obsolete in Gensokyo.

That being said I call her Tei because it rolls of the tongue easier.

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>>12619587
The pic's unrelated I just wanted to see it because I couldn't remember what it was.

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>>12619030
People call her Tei, because even when ゐ was still in use, it was pronounced as "i".

It was very long ago that い and ゐ was pronounced differently, like Kamakura period 800 years ago.

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>>12616060
there is a rapper named Lil Herb and the DJ on his mixtapes pronounce the H

he's from chicago

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>>12609549
It makes more sense in terms of letters, even if it makes less sense pronunciation-wise.
take the characters "たてちとつ" for instance
It makes more sense with the letters as
>ta, te, ti, to, tu
than
>ta, te, chi, to tsu

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>>12609549
Less characters needed.

[Anonymous No.]

So which one is right?
Sanae Kochiya or Sanae Kotiya?

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>>12625073
Sanae a filthy slut

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>>12619007
I see it used all the time in the chat when I play western games with Japanese players

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>>12609896
Kind of.
Many considered Hepburn to be not YAMATO enough because a filthy gaijin made it (despite it being for filthy gaijin alphabet), so they made a bunch of ORIGINAL ROMANIZATION DO NOT STEAR systems.
Nihon-Shiki fucking pisses me off almost as much as fuckheads writing は particle as "ha".

It's our fucking language, we know how to transliterate into it. You do not, fucking japs.

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>>12625073
I prefer Kochiya. Both in oral and writing. Gotta keep the original, bro.

Let the Japanese write whatever they want. They don't care how it sounds in english anyway. They only care about writing rules of ta, te, ti, to, tu despite that writing will sounded completely different from how they pronounce it in japanese.

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>>12625073
Coxiya

[Anonymous No.]

Why H over F and R over L?
Why Chihaya Kisaragi and not Tifaya Kisalagi?

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>>12619633
Tewi is 1300+ years old.

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>>12627335
If she really the White Rabbit Inaba from the legend, she'd be 2000+ years old.

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>>12627139
>It's our fucking language, we know how to transliterate into it
It's hard to take that seriously when "your" language has so fucked up spelling that people are helding competitions on how to spell words correctly.

Hepburn works if you know the system behind it, but average people with no knowledge of Japanese will still pronounce vocals like ass.

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>>12619007
You're far more likely to see kunreishiki than nipponshiki - although most of the people I know use wapuro rather than kunreishiki.

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>>12619007
Yeah, they generally use romaji input. Though it is still generally on a JIS keyboard layout.
Kana are mapped to keys for other input methods, not completely replacing them. JIS is similar to ISO, but with minor changes, a few extra keys, and a smaller space bar.