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Visual Novel translation status


>12Riven- 45.5/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Air (Project 1)- Through QC, some tech work remains before patch
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1072/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (46.4%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 10% TL, Masaki 18.5% TL, Konoka 10% TL, bonus 20% TL, prologue patch out
Cannonball - Fully translated and edited, in QC
Clover Day - 500/648 KB of the common route + 74/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 14735/53644 (27.47%) lines translated
>Gensou no Idea - Common route 17% translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - Being translated
>Killer Queen - Released, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
Koichoco - 100% translated, 248/397 files edited
>Koiken Otome - 91.82% translated, 71.54% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 23559/36325 (64.86%) lines translated, Common + Umi + Riho route translated
Kud Wafter - 11789/33132 (35.58%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 67.4% translated
Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released, Hikari route 1436/6085 lines translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. 27505/30163 new lines translated
>Little Princess - Released
Lovely Cation- 979 / 26959 (3.63%) lines translated
Magical Marriage Lunatics - ~12% translated, ~8% edited
>Mamatoto: 14.9% Complete
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv TDA 01 - 50% translated

>> No.12606054

>Noble Works - 20,403 / 57,690 (35.4%) lines translated, partial patch released
Oreimo PSP - 100% translated, 208/299 through TLC+Editing, 193/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 185/268 scripts translated, 78/268 through TLC+Editing, 64/268 scripts finalized
Popotan - 6% translated
Princess Maker 5- 85.89% lines translated, 28.13% of lines finalized
Rance 5D - 35% translated
>Rance 6 - 6.5% translated
>Rance Quest - 15.69% messages and 73.83% strings translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 1464/30040 (4.87%) lines translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
>SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 22891/49257 (46%) lines translated, 15993/49257 (32%) lines finalized
>Sanarara R - 3/124 scripts translated, partial patches released weekly
Sonicomi - 360/18196 (2%) lines translated
SonoHana 10 - Being translated
SonoHana 11 - Being translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
>Sukisho! - First Limit - Script 100% finished
Supreme Candy - ~14573/43261 (~33.7%) lines translated
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated, in editing
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Witch's Garden - 10986/53734 (20.45%) lines translated
White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3038/35275 (8.61%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated and edited, 54% QC, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 70.58%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 84.64%, Motoka 30.67%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

>> No.12606057

Official work

MangaGamer
Cartagra - demo released, October 31st full release
Kyoudai Hiai - Beta complete
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - In scripting
Royal Guard Melissa - Beta complete
Princess Evangile - In beta
>Space Pirate Sara - Getting ready for Beta
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 30.9% translated, 22.1% edited
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Bokuten - 40.0% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 59.8% translated, overall 28.1%
Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
>Gahkthun - 43.9% translated, 18.9% edited
No Thank You - In scripting, demo beta in testing
>OZMAFIA - Main route: 35.8% translated, overall 6.2% translated
>Eden - Fully translated and edited
>Euphoria - 46.9% translated, 2.0% edited
>House in Fata Morgana - 11.7% translated
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales

JAST
Romanesque - Nearly finished, now in preorder
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapter 2 by end of year
Fault -milestone one- - end of the year release
Grisaia trilogy - Kickstarter planned
Clannad - picked up
WAS Lepidoptera no Sunadokey - Picked up, kickstarter planned for voices

Other
>Tears to Tiara II - Released
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.12606070

Also released was Princess Nightmare. I have no idea what the fuck that is or if the translation is worth a damn.

>> No.12606099
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>>12606070
Appears to be an otome game with really shitty art.

>> No.12606162

If Rance VI hasn't reached verifiable 40% by the team Mamatoto is released, Arunaru will take the project

>> No.12606175

>>12606070
Translation is apparently good, it's by an old group who released Starry Sky in Spring a few years back.

>> No.12606226

JAST will never have green.

>> No.12606230
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>Cannonball - Fully translated and edited, in QC

Release never.

>> No.12606307

Cool, koiken otome passed 90%!

>> No.12606325
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12606325

For fuck's sake. I wanna play this VN so badly. Anyone knows if someone is translating it?

>> No.12606330

>>12606325
Moogy said he's thinking about, if enough people want to read the eroge.

>> No.12606336

>>12606325
Yeah man I'm translating it now but don't want to post my progress to get peoples hopes up. Less stress that way.

>> No.12606343

>>12606325
I've had it fully translated for months. Currently working with JAST for official release. Expect it sometime after Muramasa is completed.

>> No.12606347

>>12606330
Knowing Moogy, he would translate the all ages version and act like he's doing everyone a favor for it.

>> No.12606355

>>12606347
Uh, in DI's case that would be true. Amentes Amentes has a bunch of extra content.

Also, Moogy translating a game that long is a pretty good joke.

>> No.12606357

>>12606355
*Amantes Amentes
Fuck me I can't type.

>> No.12606385

>>12606325
Just watch any chunni anime, it's basically all the same shit.

>> No.12606451

>>12606325
Hahahaha, there's nothing more funnny to see than an EOP begging for what he'll never get.

>> No.12606455

>>12606325
It will be faster to learn moonrunes sadly

>> No.12606456

>>12606451
why the fuck are you even in this thread.

Fuck off to 2ch autist.

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>>12606456

>> No.12606476

>>12606451
You can't even read japanese so stop shitposting

>> No.12606525
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12606525

Ded thread.
Ded board.
Ded scene.
Weekly reminder.

>> No.12606548

>>12606057
>Eden - Fully translated and edited
Oh shit.

>> No.12606563

>>12606548
They have been treating that as a high priority title, and they list on Steam as a Winter release

>> No.12607013

>>12606330
>Moogy translating...
What a joke, after his (supposedly) 1h VN Dra+KoI liberal translation and his failed attempt to translate Kikouyoku Senki Tenkuu no Yumina it's better that he'll stay away from Dies Irae.

>> No.12607274

>>12606548
Time to get hype.

>> No.12607278

>>12606057
>Moenovel is working on another title

Everytime I see this, I laugh.

>> No.12607320

>>12606054
>Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
What the fuck is going on at Witchhunt?

>> No.12607409
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12607409

On a scale of zero to minus infinity, how likely is the chance of Flowers getting translated?

>> No.12607422

>>12607409
50/50

>> No.12607440

>>12607409
http://ask.fm/Kouryuu_/answer/118428578820

>> No.12607449

>>12607440
Those question marks in statements are killing me?

>> No.12607451

>>12607409
I'm fine with the fujoshi shit but I seriously hope yurishit never becomes a thing for mangagamer.

>> No.12607453

>>12607409
>no sexual content
Literally what is the point?

>> No.12607454

>>12607451
I'm fine with you killing yourself. I support that notion, in fact.

>> No.12607458

>>12607454
Why are you yurifags always so hostile? This is why you can't make friends.

>>>/u/

>> No.12607464

>>12607458
I'm hostile? I assume you don't read either, yet you're fine with one and deny the other?
And no sane yurifag would ever go to /u/, just go take a look at the board. Not that I'm one, third Hanabira is the only yuri VN I've ever read.

>> No.12607467

>>12607451
Doesn't Mangagamer already have a yurishit game though?

>> No.12607474

>>12607451
>fine with fujoshit
>hate yuri
Please be less obvious next time, landwhale.

>> No.12607504

>>12607409
I'd say it's very likely. On a recent interview Kouryuu said that MangaGamer now has some freedom to look into games their staff actually likes. Like you see on the ask.fm page anon >>12607440 linked, MangaGamer staff took a liking to it. I'm pretty sure that sooner or later we'll see it.

>> No.12607536

>>12607451
Why either? Doesn't that bring over tumblrshits to MG. They are already having to deal with them concerning Higurashi on Steam.

>> No.12607612

>>12607451
It's same shit, bring some good straight nukige for fuck sake.

>> No.12607655

>>12607504
>MangaGamer now has some freedom to look into games their staff actually likes
Please someone tell me if VNs released by Favorite, Yuzusoft, Akatsuki Works or other company that releases decent VNs is part of their staff tastes.

>> No.12607751

>>12607655
They most likely have some fans but they have to actually be able to license the games first. Innocent Grey is easy.

>> No.12607781

Majikoi translation revived by Fuwanovel. The wait continues..

>> No.12607783

>>12607781
I thought it said 'released'. My heart skipped a beat even though I'd never read any translation coming from that place.

>> No.12607821

>>12607783
It's not a single group with a single skillset but it's still so wildly variable that you have to be cautious on what you get. The Noble Works partial is actually decent but the SakuSaku one is pretty terrible. The Majikoi revival is based on youtube translations and I'm leaning closer to terrible than decent on it.

>> No.12607834
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12607834

Looks like our tumblrina friend has finally decided to take the issue directly to mangogamer's forums.

Again pretending to be someone else though, for some reason?

>> No.12607839

>>12607320

Not much, apparently

>> No.12607890

>>12607821
I thought it'd be the other way around. Is the SakuSaku one really bad? I've only tested it and read a few sentences, but it seemed fine to me. Of course, that being the case doesn't mean it's not actually a bad translation.

Too bad. It looked like a fun read.

>> No.12607914

>>12607890
When I tried it, it was riddled with grammatical errors and awkward phrasing, and it was really apparent that it was translated by an ESL. Apparently though they uploaded a new version since then saying that the one I tried was based on an outdated version of the script. Maybe I'm full of shit and it's actually good but I'll remain skeptical.

>> No.12608005

>>12607834
Oh man, it seems he's even saying that the guy from when we translate is doing the project just to counter the Higurashi re-release from MG. Also, it seems some discussion has started on them. The whole thing started here -> http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=363&start=15#p10269

>> No.12608306

Does that /jp/ FTP server still exist that was chock full of VNs?

>> No.12608326

>>12608306
Yes.

>> No.12608350

>>12608326
Oh, hm, they must have changed hosts or something. I have an old address at ftp jpftp mine nu/

>> No.12608367

Guys... What happened to Walkure Romanze?

>> No.12608407

>>12607821
>>12607890
Here's the guy 'translating' Majikoi.

http://forums.fuwanovel.org/index.php?/topic/2060-majikoi-miyako-route-translation-aka-random-talk/?p=38084

>Hey you guys! you see.....i´ve been wandering for the net a little by now, and i found a lot of forums from people angry that want this game majikoi been fully translated. Then i search for this game majikoi. (if that number of people are asking for it, it "have" to be good) (I thought) and it wasn´t wrong, the game was great : D
>specially this wanko route, it made me cry TwT
>and the others routes too, this majikoi history is a majestic little peace of art! and it dosn´t bothered me that the other routes aren´t translated, because i have been studing japanese for a half decade now.

>So....this bring me to the actual plot.
>I want the people of the word to know the histories of the samuriai girls in kawakami city.
>The people have to see it! D:

>but i´m ussuless in this computer stuff/patchin/thing.....but if you send me the "texts" of the game i will translate it all :9

>> No.12608422

>>12608367
That's another Fuwanovel 'translation.'

And honestly, do people really believe anybody on Fuwanovel actually knows Japanese? Even Aaeru didn't. Someone posted a snippet from the start of Koiken Otome that was full of major translation errors, but the English was relatively clean, and everyone there said it looked fantastic, even their supposed translators including Aaeru. The only thing they're qualified to do is judge the appearance of the English, and since most are ESL, they're not even fully qualified at that. Nobody there knows Japanese. If they did, they would easily be able to see all the problems and not associate themselves with it.

Or I guess that means that they could also know Japanese and have no respect for themselves or their work. Either way, it's the same result.

>> No.12608456

>>12608422
So it is being worked on and I'm looking in the wrong place. Thanks.

>> No.12608468

>>12608407
That guy isn't doing shit and I think they'll probably give up on him at some point, other members are doing most of the work, mostly a guy called Dowolf. I looked at his youtube translations and they aren't very good

>>12608422
The Koiken Otome thing was a result of one shitty translator that the team booted and they retranslated what he did. The rest of their work actually seems decent.

>> No.12608481

>>12608468
>The rest of their work actually seems decent.
Not from what I've seen. At least the English is mostly acceptable, which I suppose is about the best you can ask for from Fuwanovel.

>> No.12608665

>>12606307
Fuck off corntastic

>> No.12608728

>>12607409
That title screen is a huge spoiler and only shows up at the end.

>> No.12608745

>>12608728
It's only a spoiler if you point it out.

>> No.12608762

>>12608745
There's three girls on all the promo images, then anon posts a title screen with only two of them.

>> No.12608808
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>>12606325

Literally never gonna happen outside of an official release, and Light is not interested in that. Tough luck.

Dies is 4mb of hilariously complex text that would require a level of effort that nobody in the scene is willing to put forth. Even if it did get translated it's highly likely that it will end up being a very poor imitation of the original.

Learn Japanese if you want to read it.

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>>12608367
"4,268/8037 lines of the prologue translated"
It will probably take forever for it to translate. Even the Chinese abandoned the project, and the append disk for more&more just came out last month.
If it actually got translated, that's a miracle.

>> No.12608825

Who at MG is translating Gahkthun?

>> No.12608828

>>12608825
koestl

>> No.12609060

>>12606054
Sanarara R is at 5/124 new partial patch came out.

>> No.12609072

>Gensou no Idea - Common route 17% translated
Does this TL project have a website?

>> No.12609150

Random question: Trample on Schatten is a Hobibox game, Hobibox has a stake in MangaGamer. So why on earth is JAST localizing it?

>> No.12609170

>>12609072
>Does this TL project have a website?


http://raetl.wordpress.com/

>> No.12609220

>>12609150
Because JAST got the license before Hobibox got a stake in MangaGamer. It was ages ago.

>> No.12609880

>>12606054
>White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3038/35275 (8.61%) lines translated
Nothing short of an official release will save this project.

>> No.12610072

>>12609880
I'm amazed at how the 'translators' still have the gall to continue with that farce of a project.

>> No.12610274

Killer Queen sucks

>> No.12610611

>>12610072
They're apparently going through and fixing it and by that I mean they're saying they'll do it but they're not actually.

Just like all translators everywhere.

>> No.12610810

>>12608481
>Not from what I've seen. At least the English is mostly acceptable, which I suppose is about the best you can ask for from Fuwanovel.

They are way better than fuwanovels projects.

>> No.12612234

>>12610810
They are a Fuwanovel project, so by definition, they're not.

>> No.12612246

>>12608468
>The Koiken Otome thing was a result of one shitty translator
No, it wasn't. There were at least two shitty translators involved. I can only say two for sure because one posted samples of his work that were full of errors, and the other posted that he uses machine translation because it's faster than knowing Japanese. I make the assumption that the rest are also shit because they were a part of the project with those two with no complaints until people posted proof of the second guy explicitly saying he doesn't know Japanese, so they had him do 'unimportant' parts of the game. Then, when that genius plan didn't succeed, they reluctantly kicked him off and said that they'd totally be checking all his work. Just not throwing it away, because that'd be a waste.

>> No.12612254

>>12612246
Those two "translators" have been entirely replaced, as have the entire staff. It's not fair to judge them on shitty TL's from people who obviously didn't know JP back when they were first starting.

>> No.12612275

>>12612254
You missed the entire part about people joining who saw their work, didn't realize that it was shit, and had no problem working with them until people who actually knew the language pointed it out.

But that's always the excuse, for Fuwanovel, Clannad, everything. Once people point out how some existing translation is utter shit, "We definitely got rid of everything bad even though we already said we were going to use it."

>> No.12612279

>>12612254
All I know is that the prologue patch was shit, so unless the entire team has been replaced since then and all the old work scrapped and redone from scratch (which doesn't seem to be the case judging by the stats), I'm going to assume the whole thing is shit.

Not that it really matters for a game that mediocre.

>> No.12612293

That's what happened with Insem and HoshiMemo too. He posted that he translates from Chinese. Someone pointed that out. Then he deleted it and said that he learned Japanese and redid all the work.

But for some strange reason, his translation progress remained consistent the whole way. He not only redid all his previous work in a single week, but maintained his usual pace on top of it.

How strange that is.

>> No.12612319

>>12612293
I wasn't aware that he translated that from Chinese, but it explains a lot. In a way I'm grateful, though, since that translation was so bad that it finally motivated me to learn Japanese for real.

>> No.12612417

>>12612319
http://staircasesubs.com/2010/09/09/current-state-of-affairs/

My mistake. He never deleted it.

>I am looking for someone fluent in Moonrunes to TLC the first two script files [aka. the prologue scripts]. You might be wondering “Is this guy some sort of faggot? What’s with his set of double standards? He’s going from C->E yet he wants a J->E translation check?”

Another choice comment:
http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/2010/09/hoshizora-no-memoria-staircase-subs/
>my Japanese isn’t exactly fluent enough for actual efficient translating (but perfect for verifying the Chinese lines)-

How do you even get it into your mind that you can tell if something is right without being able to do it yourself?

>> No.12613521

>>12608005
There's some serious cringe worth posts on that thread. The way he keeps ignoring stuff is both ridiculous and hilarious. Are all feminist fucks this retarded?
It's amusing how he has been so far accused of being an attention whore, a troll and indiretcly a close-minded bitch.

I can just imagine a thread on Steam:
"Don't buy the game, support censorship!"

>> No.12613541

Little Busters progress is now at 29142, and editing finally went up to 17576.

>> No.12613544

weekly eop thread

>> No.12613849

GBDTE guy here. Did you guys hear about the Paranautical Activity incident on Steam? I told you, it's not just me.

>> No.12613967

>>12613849
What about it?

>> No.12613972

>>12613849
No I didn't. But a quick google search told me: The game was falsely listed as an early access release which made the developer very very angry. As any sane guy would do, he threatened to kill Gabe Newell on twitter. Please feel free to correct me and to elaborate how this is related to your case.

>> No.12613974

>>12613967

Some dude had a temper tantrum on twitter and said he'd kill gaben, and then the steam mafia killed his dog and raped his mom.

Oh sorry, I misread, they just pulled his game from steam.

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>>12613521
Not to defend the pro-censorship crowd (much less that guy), but the anti-censorship crowd can be equally retarded sometimes.

Here's the Steam forums for Chou Dengeki Stryker on Steam (which has an adult version available on MangaGamer's site). At launch, it was even worse with the 'zomg censorship' threads drowning out the other threads. (The sticky was added later.)

>> No.12614047

>>12614021

I don't really get why he's so dedicated to tilting at windmills when steam userbase already had a volatile reaction to completely necessary censorship. Why they hell would they support unnecessary censorship?

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12615153

Well /jp/? Do you think that'll be the end of that? Think the tumblrinas will just throw in the towel?

Also doddler doing kouryuu's job again.

>> No.12615267

>>12615153
I'm honestly starting to think Doddler should just do PR for Jast, Mangagamer and Sekai Project. He seems to be better then anyone they have.

>> No.12615729

>>12614021
The fact that a lot of people start complaining when they don't know what they're talking about or just complain because of their own prejudices not accepting any kind of answer besides the one they obnoxiously believe its right is something that extremely saddens me. Is it so hard for people to try to think on more ways than one and to actually try being reasonable? Sometimes adults can be a lot worse than simple teenagers...

>> No.12615766

>>12615153
>I'm starting to get really worried
>Just give her a full towel and let those fucks shut up

The guy asking the question is such an obvious shill.

>> No.12615816

I'm pretty sure all of the opposition to Satoko's sprite is coming from just one guy with no tumblr followers. There probably wouldn't be any controversy if people just ignored the idiot.

>> No.12615859

>>12615153
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5307442&postcount=1216
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5307463&postcount=1220

And this isn't even Tumblr, just the excess overflowing from it.

>> No.12615878

>>12615267
Koestl's doing a pretty good job handling PR for Sekai Project, at least as far as Grisaia goes.

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>>12615859

Does this guy have brain problems? No, seriously. He's devoting all this time and effort to getting a single, seldom used sprite changed because he has some nebulous, wishy-washy idea it's what the Higurashi fandom wants. I just don't get it.

>> No.12617347

>>12615878
But even I know Koestl a faggot an a shill.

>> No.12618493

I miss dovac drama

why'd you have to make him close his twitter jaypee

>> No.12618562

>>12618493
It's probably the smartest thing he's done since he started his company.

..but it is a bit lonely now.

>> No.12618738

>>12618562
You could talk about me.

Nobody ever wants to talk about me. ;_;

>> No.12618789

>>12618738
You're not worth talking about.

>> No.12618790

>>12618738
Who are you?

>> No.12618792

>>12618789
What if I said I was translating Baldr Sky?

>> No.12618795

>>12618738
Kindly fuck off, corntastic. please and thank you.

>> No.12618818

Has anything been released since around April or partial patches of decent stuff? I always check a few times a year to read new shit, last VN I read was Ayakashibito and Comyu.
Does JAST ever release their VNs or are they forever "Translation finished"?

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>>12618792
Which baldr sky would you fuck

>> No.12618848
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>>12618843
All of them.

>> No.12618865

>>12618792
can you translate master scavenger's lines to edward's brainchip? My jap isn't very good and that section isn't referenced outside of that one section so missing that section kinda hurts also scavenger sounds like someone that shouldn't even be there so y'know

>> No.12618874

>>12618865
I can say I can.

>> No.12618885

>>12618865
What the fuck are you talking about? Master scavenger? I played the whole thing some months ago and I don't remember that. Edward is Kou's contact, right?

>> No.12618930

>>12618885
play zero and zero 2
zero is kinda bad
zero 2 is kinda good
just dont go in expecting dive2

>> No.12618962

>>12618930
I refuse.

>> No.12619017 [DELETED] 

>>12618962
._.

>> No.12619040

>>12618818
They're claiming Romanesque is coming out before the end of the year. Killer Queen came out last week but it's not great. A lot of stuff is probably going to hit in the next 3-4 months.

>> No.12619049

>>12619040
Like how Steins;Gate was going to come out by the end of the year but got delayed by six months?

>> No.12619164

>>12619017
>._.
Kill yourself.

>> No.12619167

>>12607013
You must read very quickly. It took me a solid three and a half to four hours to finish Dra+Koi.

>> No.12619254

>>12618818
Cartagra will be released in less than two weeks.
Surprisingly, it doesn't even figure on the top5 of the week. The moeday sale gave some serious publicity to older moege games on MG catalogue and they're selling well since then. At least, more than Cartagra which is with pre-order discount.

>> No.12619342

>>12619040
Romanesque is never coming out. It was never being translated. I should know.

>> No.12619973

>>12619167
how "liberal" is the translation

>> No.12619985

>>12619973
Think Che Guevara.

>> No.12620352

>>12619973
Moogy domo:
"I've taken a very liberal approach when dealing with the dialogue,
choosing to focus on making it sound natural"

>> No.12620369

>>12619973
Moogy domo:
"I've taken a very liberal approach when dealing with the dialogue,
choosing to focus on making it sound natural"
Summarizing (tsun ver): i will adapt it to my way, hmm

>> No.12620408

>>12619254
I think a factor of why Cartagra is not selling well is because it's download-only. I know for sure I'd buy a hardcopy version. But unfortunately Mangagamer lets their hardcopy releases depend on how well the download versions have sold, so that's probably not going to happen.

>> No.12620645

>>12619973
He basically made it up, since he doesn't speak Japanese. It's hilarious how people will defend his work and outright lie about things just because it's Moogy.

If I were in his position, I could write my own story, release it as a patch for Dies Irae, and people would still argue that it's a "liberal translation" rather than complete bullshit. Of course, I'd probably do a better job of it than Moogy would, considering I've actually got credentials.

>> No.12620811

>>12615816
Incorrect.
>>12607834
You didn't read the rest of the posts, did you. Besides, getting the project pulled is a legitimate concern.

>> No.12620824

>>12606343
Secretly leak your patch. I will pay you many bucks

>> No.12621043
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12621043

To clarify my last comment, this is what I mean. Doddler's twitter was bombarded with angry comments after his latest response over the sprite controversy.

>> No.12621068

>>12621043
Umm, that's not twitter.

>> No.12621072

>>12621043
>controversy
It isn't even that. Just idiots being idiots.

>> No.12621080

>>12621043
I love how tumblerites are buttmad about being called out.

>> No.12621116

>>12621043
Except for 1 and 3, it looks to be written by the same tl;dr retard.

>> No.12621184

>>12621068
Sorry, my bad. It was the ask.fm, and Doddler posted it on Twitter.

>> No.12621389

>>12621043

2 comments supporting him, 3 comments(two of which are likely from the same person), and the rest unrelated. Yes, truly a flood of angry comments. More likely he's just tired of higurashi questions in general.

>Besides, getting the project pulled is a legitimate concern.

Maybe for retards. Steam isn't gonna care unless there's a bunch of people complaining, and judging from tumblr, it seems like it's ten people max, with the majority of the outrage coming from a single retard.

Even if the tumblrinas do manage to get mangagamer's games pulled from steam, who cares? If anything, that sounds awesome because it'll create a tumblr civil war between the otome tumblrinas and the higurashi tumblrinas because ozmafia will be shot down in the crossfire.

>> No.12621390

>>12620811
>You didn't read the rest of the posts, did you. Besides, getting the project pulled is a legitimate concern.
You mean those posts filled with subjective moral faggotry blatantly ignoring key aspects of the situation Satoko was in even after being called out on it? Quite legitimate alright. It baffles me how that guy continues talking feeling like the whole world supports him.

>> No.12621464

I was just referring to the comment about hiding identity, but okay.

>> No.12621502

>>12621464

The timestamp on that post is pretty well before you actually came clean on who you were.

>> No.12621524

>>12620408

Cartagra actually overtook imopara to be number 1 on the charts before the sale changed the charts pretty wildly. I dunno how mangagamer's charts update, so it could be just that the sale's sales are still there.

I'm pretty sure cartagra will get a hardcopy, eventually. Hell, ef did and that sold like complete shit.

>> No.12621619

Oh hey, maria's got a ask.fm now.

Quick /jp/, go ask a bunch of obnoxious questions and see if she answers them instead of ignoring them!

>> No.12621624

>>12621619
Keep your shitty dicksucking in /hannyrape/

>> No.12621644

>>12621619
>maria
Who?

>> No.12621776

>>12621524
>I'm pretty sure cartagra will get a hardcopy, eventually. Hell, ef did and that sold like complete shit.

I know it will eventually get one, but MG said only if the download version sells well enough. That will still take quite a while, probably.

>> No.12621798

>>12621043
That's not really a bombardment.

>>12621389
Has drama ever taken a game off steam?
I honestly can't remember when it last happened.

>> No.12621851

>>12621798
No, but it sounds like Sekai had some issues with feedback on Sakura Spirit, so it's not unheard of. I don't actually see how Higurashi could be a problem though, what are they going to flag it for? It's probably going to be marked as a mature game already for it's other content.

>> No.12621877

>>12621798
I was just going off what I saw in AnimeSuki (the same thread mentioned above somewhere). It was apparently enough to make Doddler mad.

>> No.12621892

>>12621877
>enough to make Doddler mad.

Don't kid yourself, tumblr friend.

>> No.12621949

>>12621877
>It was apparently enough to make Doddler mad.

I think it's more exasperated. You are badgering his personal ask.fm, after all. Imagine answering the same question for nearly a week straight with the same answer every time, particularly when you aren't obligated to even acknowledge it.

>> No.12622061 [DELETED] 

Why is this thread even still getting posted on /jp/ if everyone here can read moon and translated VN belong on /vg/?

>> No.12622080

>>12622061
Because clearly you cannot read and comprehend the board rules.

>> No.12622093

>>12621949
That wasn't me. I've never been to Doddler's ask.fm.

>> No.12622111

>>12622093
I mean, I've never commented on it. I've seen posts from it, but those complaints weren't mine.

>> No.12622194

Is someone translating Aiyoku no Eustia? Yandere translations died like, two years ago

>> No.12622203

>>12621619
I should ask if she self-inserts as Rance or Maria during their scenes but I won't.

>> No.12622221

>>12622194
I'll translate it during my lunch break tomorrow.

>> No.12622398

>>12622221
You should wait to TL it at home, after you've freshly had your afternoon Intro to Japanese course and mulled it over after your junior varsity volleyball practice.

>> No.12622540

>>12622194
no

>> No.12622554

>>12622194
I have bad news for you. Yandere Translations wasn't translating it to begin with. It was just some fucker who got tools from them who had no idea what he was doing, and that guy hasn't been seen since November 2011.

>> No.12622555

>>12621644
Fan TLs Alicesoft shit, helped out on Cartagra, is translating KnS2, and on some unnamed JAST project

>> No.12622573

>>12622555
And like the Alicesoft dicksucking crowd, has a grasp of English grammar only slightly better than Ixrec.

>> No.12622683

>>12622573
Her work is fine. She wouldn't be working for MG or Jast if it wasn't.

>> No.12622705

>>12622683
Does someone want to educate this moron on how stupid the premise of his argument is?

>> No.12622711

>>12622683
Reminder that at one point MG wanted to buy Ixrec's translations. Also, YukkuriS.

>> No.12622715

>>12622711
>>12622705
Brace yourself for the Fuwanovel excuse.

"Can't judge on all the past evidence. All you're allowed to use is the current, which nobody can see, and everything that was ever wrong is already fixed."

>> No.12622726

>>12622715
Except her past work is also fine. I mean, it's not top tier shit or anything but it's also not bad.

>> No.12622727

>>12622711

YukkuriS got fired for shit quality though. They've been making efforts to improve TL quality lately. They even went out of their way to hire koestl

>> No.12622729

>>12622727
I don't think you know what the phrase "out of their way" means.

>> No.12622730

>>12622726
Is that what you argued?

Or is what you argued "If she's working for MG and Jast, she must be good."?

>> No.12622731

>>12622727
True, but then they hired Batman to finish the job, so it's pretty clear they don't really know what they're doing. I'd bet Moogy and Doddler being best pals had a lot to do with them hiring Koestl.

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>>12622731
>Batman
If he works for Mangagamer, he must be fine.

>> No.12622770

>>12622731

Batman doesn't work for MG anymore either.

>> No.12622781

>>12622770
Because he finished what they hired him to do a few weeks ago?

>> No.12622800

>>12622770
Only because he got poached by SP.

Regardless, that's beside the point. Just because someone happens to work for MG doesn't mean they're any good.

>> No.12622887

>>12622731
>>12622770
I was under the impression that in a blog post some months ago, it was said that Batman was re-translating Higurashi. Or am I confusing him with someone else?
I tried to search for it but for the life of me I'm unable to find it.

>> No.12622929

>>12622731
I thought batman only did scanlations?
https://twitter.com/batmanscans

>> No.12622965

>>12622770
Nah he still does. Batman was an alias for one of MangaGamer's translators. The real translator is Erielz.

>> No.12622974

>>12622929

He also enjoys producing soap operas.

>> No.12623023

>>12622727
>I even went out of my way to hire koestl
Hello Kouryuu

>> No.12623061

>>12622965
He's not listed as staff on their staff page.

>> No.12623097

>>12622887
Nope. Looks like Gary is doing it. http://blog.mangagamer.org/about/
They must have fired batman too.

>> No.12623102

>>12623061
YukkuriS isn't on there either.

>> No.12623567

>>12621798
>Has drama ever taken a game off steam?
>I honestly can't remember when it last happened.

Did you seriously miss the post about Paranautical Activity earlier in the thread? Although at the same time that shows that unless Mangagamer themselves starts the drama, we're good.

>> No.12623593

>>12623102
And he is not emplyed by MG. Your point?
>>12622965
Wtf are you talking about? Batman is Trantez, and he is busy translating shit for SP, he doesn't work for MG.

>> No.12623603

>>12623593
>pretend to fire guy
>still works under a different pseudonym
>he's not listed anymore. That's proof he doesn't work for them

You're a regular sith lord.

>> No.12623748

>>12623603
I think he's trying to prove there's a giant conspiracy of Batman = Dovac

>> No.12623785

>>12623748
Umm, no? Batman is Batman aka Trantez the Soap Opera.
dovac doesn't know japanese even at basic level, so he's not Trantez for sure.

>> No.12624420

Sekai Project tweeted the Muv Luv OP.

Once again Sekai Project seeks to give us a visual novel that has been translated years ago via the power of Kickstarter™

>> No.12624439

>>12624420
Well, if they would retranslate it from ixwreck-ben into English, I'd even support this KS.

>> No.12624453

>>12624439
>if they would retranslate it from ixwreck-ben into English
For some reason I wouldn't count on it.

>> No.12624529

>>12624439
Anyone read Sekai Project translations yet? I guess so far the only thing they released that didn't already have a translation would be the moe headphones book.

>> No.12624615

>>12613974
>“We have killed people,” Hodges admitted, “It was in self-defense so it was all legal. And don’t ask me how many people we have killed. I’d estimate at least two hundred, but it’s hard to remember each of those faces. I will always remember our first kill though. Someone wanted a refund. Big mistake.”

Yeah, sure, keep acting like Valve is an innocent party.

>> No.12624619

>>12623785
How exactly did dovac come to run a company dedicated to publishing Japanese games when he doesn't know a lick of Japanese? This baffles me completely.

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>>12624619
They all speak the language of money, of course

>> No.12625248

On doddler twitter
>I feel bad asking jp side about a particular license, and they put in huge hours just to come back with a 'no it's not possible' answer. :(
It seems like MangaGamer had a license shot down.

>> No.12625263

>>12624420
Ixrec really only has a bad reputation in a small group like this that a company could easily ignore, and any complaints over the translation quality would be brushed off easily by claiming "we will polish the scripts". This is in contrast to Clannad, where a broader community recognizes that the existing translation has problems.

Be is Sekai Project or someone else though, it probably is only a matter of time before someone brings over the Muv Luv titles. The translation is nearly free for the trilogy with the Ixrec version existing, it's one of the biggest titles out there with a script that would be appealing to the West, and someone could either deal with the bringing over the console version (as Tears to Tiara II and Eiyuu Senki are getting) or do a Steam release. The main thing holding it back were 5pb's hold on the title and Ixrec releasing the patch and pissing off Age. But the 5pb problem isn't as much of a problem now that Steins;Gate and Eiyuu Senki have been cleared for a Western release, and a fair amount of time has passed since Ixrec pissed off Age.

>> No.12625286

Wasn't "Your Diary" also in translation? Or was it canceled?

>> No.12625325

>>12624619
How exactly did any founder of any company that ever existed come to run a company dedicated to accomplishing a goal they aren't capable of doing on their own when they don't understand anything about that field? This baffles me completely.

You really don't understand how business works. If you can make money off it you don't need to know shit about it. Why do you think there are so many middle management jobs in the US? They don't have to actually do any of the work but pass it off to people doing the work.

From their site it looks like he has been going to Japan in person and working out deals.

>> No.12625334

>>12625263
Still, nobody gives a shit.

>> No.12625959

http://www.jastusa.com/

So, Jast was hacked.

>> No.12625988

>>12625325
Indeed, I don't understand, which is why I asked. I could have done without the rudeness, but I appreciate the answer nonetheless.

>> No.12625993

>>12625959
Not going to the website to see if that's true, but that'd be funny. Now they don't have ANYTHING over Mangagamer.

>> No.12626009

>>12625993

Empty white page with 'hi' in the top left.

>> No.12626020

>>12626009
And every single page on their server is 404.

>> No.12626022

>Today we at MangaGamer are proud to announce the addition of #HuniePop to our catalog!

Does anyone actually buy OELVN shit from mangagamer?

>> No.12626047

>>12626022

Obviously people do or they wouldn't bother putting them up for sale.

>> No.12626059

>>12626022
Consider myself sold. I actually like the art and the game is cheap. The puzzle puts me off somewhat but that's not enough to make me not try the game when its released.

>> No.12626122

>>12626022
They don't.

>> No.12626130

>>12626022
At the very least, this is yet another example of dual Steam all ages/18+ being fine

>> No.12626132

>>12626059
Doddler devs pls go

>> No.12626139

Meanwhile, Payne is rewteeting shitty Nadia fanart.

>> No.12626158

>>12625286
It's probably dead. The team decided to sit and wait for +H to come out and when it did some technical shit cropped up that they were too lazy to address.

>> No.12626159

>>12626139
>Payne
Who?

>> No.12626164

>>12626022

Also apparently the huniepop guy is in on some gamersgate shit, so a handful of people are bitching about mangagamer picking it up on twitter. Looks pretty tame right now, but maybe it'll erupt into some interesting drama later.

>> No.12626166

>>12626159

Pater Payne? The guy who owns JAST?

Why do you bother to browse these threads if you don't keep up with any of this shit. Unless you're an EOP and aren't here to follow all the drama.

>> No.12626172

>>12626166
Oh fuck, my bad. I wasn't thinking about that Payne.

>> No.12626184

>>12626164

Man, fuck SJWs. Why can't they go attack actual shit like uneven paternity leave instead of stupid shit like fiction.

Oh, right, because they don't actually care about equality and just want to fell accomplished for pissing and moaning. How silly of me to forget.

>> No.12626206

>>12626164
Ugh, that dude seems like quite the ass.

>> No.12626221

>>12626206
He's fucking creepy.

There's a video of him doing 'field research' for the game and it's just him walking up to random girls and harassing them.

>> No.12626250

>>12626164

They're probably not going to have much ground to go on, considering there's a yuri option. "Oh no, that female protagonist is such an sexist man!'

>> No.12626308

None of this matters because huniepop is a steaming pile of rotten garbage anyways.

>> No.12626386

>>12626308
It's a shame, because I was kind of looking forward to it when the kickstarter came out. The art looked nice, and Brad from Blaster Nation was going to do the writing, but when he left the team and when that awful voice acting was revealed, my interest quickly deflated.
The only thing I'm slightly looking forward to about that is the imminent CG gallery release so I can fap to all of the brown girls.

>> No.12626402

>>12626386
>Blaster Nation

Didn't the maker of that comic used to be a tripfag on 4chan?

>> No.12626416

>>12626402
I don't remember him being a tripfag, but he has openly stated that he still hangs out on /co/ and the other boards.

>> No.12626417

>>12626308
That didn't stop Sakura Spirit.

>> No.12626495

>>12625263
>passed since Ixrec pissed off Age.
Whatever happened behind the scenes with that whole affair anyway?

>> No.12626554

>>12626495
A combination of Ixrec being an asshole and Age/MG not really wanting to deal with him.

The way I hear it, during the talks, Ixrec kept pushing for them to give him the source code to rUGP, and Makoto kept telling Ixrec that there were a bunch of fixes that needed to be made to the script before they went forward with anything. Neither responded in the way that the other wanted and then eventually someone leaked the editors' version of the patch and the already halted negotiations completely died.

>> No.12626721

>>12626554
Looks like MG keeps getting hit with toxic shit.

>> No.12626742

>>12626554

I really was neutral to Ixrec in general but him screwing over the Age deal by being all around unreasonable and wanting things his way and releasing the patches for Muv Luv... I don't hate him now but I really do not appreciate what he did.

He set back legitimacy for localizing VNs leaving a bad impression of the western VN fanbase and we're stuck with the quagmire we have now.

>> No.12626804

>>12626742
>He set back legitimacy for localizing VNs leaving a bad impression of the western VN fanbase and we're stuck with the quagmire we have now.
Dovac is doing this now, particularly with Key. He's promising them unrealistic sales based off of what shit like Sakura Spirit sold.

>> No.12626819

>>12626721

I don't think mangagamer's ever actually had a particularly good windfall of things going unexpected their way since kotaku covered kara no shoujo favorably.

It's probably a good thing though, they supposedly actually make money now, which if true basically means they're a sustainable business even during bad weather.

Unlike dovac, who'd probably have to fold by the end of the year if his grisaia/etc kickstarters failed.

>> No.12626854

>>12626819
Didn't it take MG like 5 years to become profitable? That's pretty bad for how much money was sunk into it to get all those tiltes. Pretty sure because of the shit they promised that a lot of groups in Japan think that there's no market for VN because of how poorly they preformed.

SP probably has a shit ton of financial backers hiding their rich identities like other shitty groups. He's probably another Yen Press screwing up the market with jewbucks.

Hell, nobody talks about MG's translationed fap materials because nobody buys their shitty games. They should have released Higurashi when the new anime started so they could get the sales like GGN but doesn't look like they're ever going to release it.

Dovac is going to suck the market clean before MG ever catches up. Probably going to buy them out and then aquire all their shit using his jewbucks from steam.

>> No.12626860

>>12626854
dovac pls go

>> No.12626865

>>12626860
>thinks both MG and SP are shit
>is the Dovac
some paranoid mf here, smh

>> No.12626870

>>12626854
>SP probably has a shit ton of financial backers
That's why dovac is knee-deep in loans and had to plead his family for petty cash to keep things running between kickstarters.
Seriously, SP should hire better shills, people like you just make dovac look even more retarded.

>> No.12626874

>>12626164
Doesn't that mean he's on our side? Not very interesting drama when the others don't have much of an argument. Just like the Higurashi guy, Mangagamer will essentially ignore them and that will be that.

>> No.12626882

>>12626874
Well, at least he got me interested in that game, and I usually hate and ignore OELVN shit.

>> No.12626896

>>12626870
I don't see SP slowing down. I don't think they're making any money off kickstarters either. A few thousand goes in days and even if he had made 50-60k from kickstarters that won't last him more than a few months with him flying to Japan every few weeks.

Pretty sure you're just blind at seeing what's happening right now. Crying because he's getting all the weeb cash and hoping he's going to fail. lol, don't think you even understand what a shill is.

>> No.12626900

>>12626874
>Doesn't that mean he's on our side?

In the war between SJWs and GG, GG is certainly the lesser evil, but the sheer amount of autism contained within kind of turns me off from considering it "my side". The eternal conflict does generate fascinating drama, though.

>>12626882

Spoiler: The game will be shit.

>> No.12626914

>>12626854
What's wrong with Yen Press?

>> No.12626915

>>12626882
>>12626900
Found this video while looking for more information about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGPYxpPt6Q

I think it is going to be a great game. By the way, I would personally pick "Ask on date".

>> No.12626918

>>12626896
So you have no idea what are you talking about, ok.
dovac even openly said it on twitter many times that he doesn't have any funds to last even to the end of year. Statements about scrambling for loans from family and friends came from dovac himself as well, you would know all this if you would hang around tl community.

>> No.12626923

>>12626900
>Spoiler: The game will be shit.
I know, its OELVN after all, but I think its gonna be hilarious shit.

>> No.12626929

>>12626915
Does hunipop have a fetish for nasty ass-hair heroines or something?

>> No.12626931

>>12626915
Yep, looks like something a GG supporter would write.

The VAs also gave me cancer.

>> No.12626934

>>12626914
Look up the founder, Kurt Hassler.
Yen Press is basically DC trying to take over the manga publishing scene.

>> No.12626941

>>12626918
Dovac is full of shit. See, when you follow after someone on twitter expecting everything they say is true you end up being a dumbass because they're lying to you.

Are you even thinking about this or covering your ears trying to drown out the facts?

>> No.12626944

>>12626931
SJW detected.

>> No.12626945

>>12626944
>If you're not on one autismal extreme, you must be on the other

>> No.12626956

>>12626931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aSnip7wGKo

>> No.12626965

>>12624420
I want to buy a physical copy of Muv-luv

>> No.12626966

>>12626944
More like a decent human being detected. SJWs are merely annoying whereas the GG pieces of shit are toxic.

>> No.12626972

/jp/ was the last refuge I had from GG shit. Please don't drag it in here.

>> No.12626973

>>12626918
Not >>12626896 but where is the tl community? From VNDB?

>> No.12626978

>>12626973
No, private irc channels.

>> No.12626979

Is JAST ever going to start doing shit again?

>> No.12626980

>>12626979
Someone took their site down completely and nobody's heard a peep from them.

I'm 90% certain they don't give a fuck.

>> No.12626981

>>12626979
Basically, Makoto decided to do everything himself, so every game has to be edited and thoroughly QCed by him. He finished LWR, and now doing Seinarukana, so these two games are going to be released in next half year.

>> No.12626996

>>12626979
According to the Moogster on IRC today, LWR will be out this year, Seinarukana and Hanachirasu probably next year sometime. Take that how you will.

>> No.12627006

>>12626972
>last refuge
If you have other refuges then you don't belong on /jp/

>> No.12627007

>>12626918
Because Dovac has never lied through his teeth to the internet about anything.

>We'll be using the old translation
>Wait, I mean I need a KS for editing it
>Wait, I mean we're redoing the translation

>I need to do a KS or I can't afford to license it
>Wait, I mean I have the license, but I need a KS to translate it
>Wait, it's going to be translated no matter what, but I need money or you get no voices

Repeat x3 and counting

>> No.12627008

>>12626996
Why would the moogster know such things?

>> No.12627012

>>12626981
>now doing Seinarukana
First I've heard of this. I'm pretty sure he's still working on getting LWR out.

>> No.12627017

>>12627012
Doddler: fucked if I know where seinarukana is atm
Doddler: I remember it being at the "we can probably release this" stage like 8-10 months ago
Doddler: Tatari has been flagging lots of stuff as broken when that's how the game plays
Doddler: and then spending months to try to figure out how to change it when it's stuff we don't have to work with
Doddler: best part is recently makoto decided he wanted to QC it too
Doddler: I guess holdovers from the previous TL group aren't as good...
Doddler: though to be fair makoto somehow found crashing bugs implemented by bad editing~

>> No.12627018

>>12627008
Because he's friends with Makoto and worked on Hanachirasu.

>> No.12627025

>>12626981
>He finished LWR, and now doing Seinarukana, so these two games are going to be released in next half year.
Or he could do VNs people actually care about like Django or Muramasa.

>> No.12627026

>>12627007
Nah man, let him believe in Dovav.

>> No.12627030

>>12627007
He's shit at communication and has to keep clarifying what he means.

He's not lying. Just incompetent.

>> No.12627031

>>12626945
>>12626966
Yeah, I was joking to show the pointlessness of assigning anyone to one extreme. It's a classic case of "one bad apple spoils the bunch."

>> No.12627037

>>12627025
> VNs people actually care about
"People care" and "people pay dollars" are different categories. Gameplay games sell many thousands, while "real shit" games fail to earn back investments.
Doing muramasa is pointless from business perspective.

>> No.12627094

>>12627037
This is only the case because these people phail epicly at marketing their games.

>> No.12627113

>>12627030
Ah, yes, like most Asian-Americans.

>> No.12627249

>>12627017
>removing lines to change what was actually said

>> No.12627253

>>12627030
Changing to the opposite of what you explicitly said isn't 'clarifying.'

>> No.12627254

>>12627007
Eh, there's a difference between lying and going back on your word. It's likely he thought he could get away with editing the current translation but it became apparent he couldn't and changed his stance. That's not what lying is. He'd be lying if it turned out he's not going to redo any of the translation after all.

>> No.12627273

>>12627253
>We'll be using the Doki TL
>The existing fanTL?
>No, the unreleased one.
>Oh, so it's just an edited version of the existing fanTL.
>Depends on what you mean by "edited". We're scrapping huge chunks of it.
>Oh, so it's being rewritten from scratch
>...Not quite.


>Alright, so this KS is for licensing and shit. It'll also pay for translations for the next games.
>What if the KS fails.
>Well, we've got some shit licensed, but VAs are by far the most expensive.
>And no new TL? :(
>That depends. If the Kickstarter fails, but if Grisaia sells enough to hold us over for two more games, then the money will go towards those. It's not all-or-nothing. And no promises.

It's not back-peddling. He's just such a fuck-up he makes it look like back-peddling.

>> No.12627281

>>12627254
>>12627273
You shut down your twitter because you didn't know how to do damage control without making an ass of yourself. You're not doing any better here.

>> No.12627502

http://www.crymore.net/2014/10/25/fansub-review-tlwiki-grisaia-no-kajitsu-episode-03/

This is related to this thread because the translation is directly copy-pasted from the game.

>> No.12627528

>>12626966
>toxic
Really, dude? It's one thing to waffle on about something petty and mundane like being a "decent human being", but to actually defend them whilst using their shitty goon lingo is a step too far, don't you think?

>> No.12627539

>>12627502
Oh my god that Dark_Sage person is infuriating.

>> No.12627562

>>12627539
He doesn't even speak Japanese, so where does he get off reviewing fansubs?

>> No.12627573

>>12627502
>>12627539
Those comments. Jesus.

>> No.12627578

>>12627249
Some guy tried doing that to me once. Needless to say, he's gone now.

>> No.12627585

>>12627562
Lots of people think they're capable of editing Japanese translations without knowing any Japanese. I've seen it from him, herkz and a few others. Naturally, I stopped going to their sites or respecting their opinions once I realized this was the case.

>> No.12627587

>>12627585
Wait, Herkz doesn't speak Japanese? Not even a little bit?

>> No.12627589

>>12627573
Man, all the big names in fansubbing came out in those comments, including that absolutely insane Kristen person. I remember when people used to just translate stuff instead of endlessly arguing with each other about whose translation was slightly better. Perhaps it's because all the anime is taken by Crunchyroll and the like (with pretty solid translations that don't really require any editing) so they have nothing to do. Yet despite that, only a few of them even attempt to work on VNs. Perhaps because they weren't so good at their work in the first place.

>> No.12627593

>>12627587
He seriously does not. All he does is editing. Usually he doesn't even change much about the original translation and makes some rookie mistakes, too (another thing coming, could care less, et cetera). Most likely because he doesn't actually do much editing either and just points out a few things he thinks looks off here and there to keep up appearances.

>> No.12627605

>>12627502
Why did they do that, anyway? Obviously the lines aren't going to be exactly the same. That's pretty half-assed work on the level of pulling inaccurately translated lines directly from the manga. I guess that's what happens when you try and do a translation without an actual translator.

>> No.12627665

>>12626554
>>12626495
/jp/'s revisionism never ceases to amaze me. Here's what happened.

Amaterasu was translating the Muv-Luv trilogy due to huge fan demand (there was a lot of poll drama before that, but that's a story for another time). They had released Muv-Luv (Extra and Unlimited) and were working on Alternative. MangaGamer got into talks with age and Liar-soft and started making arrangements with Amaterasu Translations (Ixrec's translation group) to possibly use the translations for Inganock, Muv-Luv, the upcoming Muv-Luv Alternative and their next planned project, Shikkoku no Sharnoth.

However, after some initial discussion followed silence. Months passed, and nothing was heard from MangaGamer/age/Liar-soft other than that age refused to license Muv-Luv immediately but were considering licensing Kimi ga Nozomu Eien instead. People got impatient and dissatisfied, both in the community as well as inside Amaterasu itself. At the same time, some internal drama happened at Amaterasu. As a result of the dissatisfaction regarding the licensing, and the internal drama, a patch was leaked that translated Muv-Luv Alternative 100% (but if I recall correctly, it wasn't 100% edited/QCed). /jp/ rejoiced; inside Amaterasu and related places the leak was condemned. However, this did not affect the licensing.

More months passed, and there was absolutely no news (not even the 'nope' they got earlier). Community dissatisfaction reached a peak (JAST's licenses were in a similar limbo; apart from Demonbane and Kara no Shoujo (both fully translated at time of picking it up), no fan translation/official localizer cooperation had worked out at that point). Ixrec made the decision to release the patches to both Muv-Luv Alternative and Shikkoku no Sharnoth, no longer wanting to wait for MG/age/Liar-soft to twiddle their thumbs until things got done. /jp/ hailed Ixrec as a hero; a small minority of the community (notably, the crowd dovac hangs out with) condemned the release.

>> No.12627681

>>12627665
>(there was a lot of poll drama before that, but that's a story for another time)
Now is that time.

Also is that you Sheeta?

>> No.12627684

>>12627665
>(notably, the crowd dovac hangs out with)
Tell me more of this crowd, /jp/ history master.

>> No.12627685

>>12627665
I only found out about /jp/ about a year ago and have only been into VNs for 2 years, so it's fun to read about its 'history' like this. If you have any more stories like this, I'd love to hear them.

>> No.12627702

>>12627685
Well there was this time we almost got Baldr Sky translated when Ixrec did an earlier poll but furries hijacked it and got Inganock translated instead and Ixrec butchered it, so that was shit.

>> No.12627718
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12627718

>>12627684
They originate from the novelnews forums ('gemot'), which was basically the most central place for the translation community before TLWiki and its affiliated IRC channels. They're the older generation which are more negative towards fan translations (feeling you should get permission from the company first) and were mainly responsible for translating short doujin games back in the day (think Narcissu and the like). Most of them now hang out in a certain IRC channel which I will not mention on /jp/. (Most people associated with Sekai (Sekai itself, not the project teams) are from this crowd.)

>>12627681
For its first three projects (not counting Moon., which was 'project 0' before the group was formed), Amaterasu conducted polls for which game they should translate next. The first poll was small and uneventful, and led to Cross Channel being chosen. The second poll was a bigger event (as Ixrec had 'proven himself' with Cross Channel; popular opinion on that translation wasn't negative until much later), causing people to actively get outside people to vote in the poll to raise the chances of their favorite game winning. (This is where the 'Disney vs Real Deal' meme originated, though it's hardly used nowadays; Inganock was considered 'Disney' and people should vote for 'Real Deal' titles like Muv-Luv and Baldr Sky.) Eventually Inganock won out and the word 'furry' was used many times, particularly towards Sheeta (who strongly pushed for Inganock).

>> No.12627723
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12627723

>>12627718
Then, after Inganock's translation came the third poll, and it was huge. Amaterasu was hugely popular and a lot of people were pulling outside voters from everywhere to get their favorite titles translated. Sites inside the community and in related communities were altered to tell people to vote for a certain title (TLWiki, for example, had 'vote for Muv-Luv' prominently displayed). Eventually, after a lot of chaos, a day or so before the poll ended, on the release day of several popular anime series, gg replaced its entire site with a 'vote for Ruitomo' message, sending tons and tons of voters for Ruitomo. When the time came for the results to be announced, there was a long delay. Eventually, it was decided that because of the shenanigans involved with the poll, and because the poll just got really out of hand, the poll results would be ignored. Instead, they went with what was considered the genuine most popular choice inside the community itself, the Muv-Luv trilogy (which was the runner-up of the second poll; not sure about its position in third poll, might've been runner-up there as well).

>> No.12627738

>>12627723
I guess that's why they never did another one.

>> No.12627782

>>12627723
Do you know which title the winner of the third poll was, and which other titles were contestants?

>> No.12627794

>>12627665
>MangaGamer got into talks with age and Liar-soft and started making arrangements with Amaterasu Translations
Please provide source. Ixrec himself said
>age did not contact me. It was my idea, and they liked it.
Source - http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=818#comment-1262

>> No.12627811

>>12627593
>another thing coming
>Google says another think coming

I have seriously never heard this.

>> No.12627823

>>12627723
Which was the one where Baldr Sky nearly won?

>> No.12627832

>>12627782
Ruitomo was the obvious winner. There's probably a list of other contestants out there, I don't really remember exactly. I know that they included Baldr Sky, France Shoujo and Swan Song (before it was mysteriously removed from the list after TakaJun contacted Ixrec; some time later, to nobody's surprise, Yandere released a Swan Song translation).

>> No.12627846

>>12627832
Found it.
>http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=49
Contestants and votes for the first project after C+C.

>Sekien no Inganock -What a Beautiful People-: 85 votes
>Baldr Sky Dive1 "LostMemory": 82 votes
>Gore Screaming Show: 49 votes
>Swan Song: 48 votes
>Hoshizora no Memoria -Wish upon a shooting star-: 36 votes
>Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu: 38 votes
>Never7 -the end of infinity-: 32 votes
>Himawari: 20 votes
>Saihate no Ima: 17 votes
>Extravaganza: 4 votes

>> No.12627867

>>12627846
And these were the candidates for project number 3:

>11eyes
>Baldr Sky Dive1 "LostMemory"
>Eden* They Were Only Two, On The Planet
>France Shoujo ~Une Fille Blanche~
>I/O
>Katahane
>Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
>MuvLuv Alternative
>Narcissu Side 2nd and Narcissu 3rd Die Dritte Welt
>Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu

From http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=312

>> No.12627868

>>12627846
That's weird, I could've sworn Muv-Luv was on there. I recall discussion among 'real deal' fans that they were going to lose the vote because they were splitting between Baldr Sky and Muv-Luv...but I guess I may be confusing things with the third poll?

>> No.12627877

>>12627587
Well, he can read manga with furigana

>> No.12627899

>>12627718
So tlwiki is the Anita Sarkeesian of the tl community. New face that keeps yelling until someone pays attention with connections in the industry.
I feel bad for you guys having to deal with that shit too.

>> No.12627976

>>12627811
That's because the logic behind "another thing coming" is pretty sound, leading to its frequent usage and eventual acceptance as the right version of the phrase. So because of the evolution of the language it's not really wrong to use, but it makes it silly when someone says "You've got another think coming" and people think it's a mistake. This is all actually relevant to VNs because I only even learned this because Aksys actually got it right in 999 and confused a lot of people. But it certainly bolstered my faith in their work.

Incidentally, this also happens with just deserts. Come to think of it, I remember an argument over some visual novel editor fucking this up a while back.

>> No.12627994

>>12627723
Wouldn't have minded a Ruitomo translation, but thank goodness gg is finally dead. Well, I liked koda, but the rest of them are trash and the anime community was made worse by the group's existence. Sadly koda's the only one who actually quit.

>> No.12627995

>>12627976
> I remember an argument over some visual novel editor fucking this up a while back.
It was ixwreck&shitta. Someone posted report on their forums saying their version of just desert was wrong. Shitta mindlessly edited it to suggested version, because she's dumb and can't use dictionaries. Then jp laughed at her and pointed that original version was actually correct one, and then shitta rushed to edit it back and pretend she knew all along.

>> No.12627998

>>12627994
>Ruitomo
>ixrec
Thank god it didn't happen.

>> No.12628012

>>12627593
You forgot that his main job is to add le meme.
Herkz is surely the biggest cunt in this community.

>> No.12628036

>>12627718
>gemot
Well that's a name I haven't seen around in ages here in /jp/. Did these forums go down with encubed or is this just a passing downtime they're having? I see some supposed '14 updates through google...

>> No.12628053

>>12628036
In technical deadness, novelnews was still up recently so I assume it's temporary downtime. In actual deadness, novelnews stopped reporting news some time ago (they made a post about it, you'll see it when it's up again) and the forums have been practically dead but just barely alive for ages now.

>> No.12628061

>>12628053
Yeah, I was there when that happened but I really never liked the gemot community to keep close tabs after that post, which is why I wonder if they had gone down with encubed (or novelnews, same thing)

>> No.12628133

>>12606054
>SubaHibi nearly done
I am ready.

>> No.12628138

>>12627995
>Shitta mindlessly edited it to suggested version, because she's dumb and can't use dictionaries. Then jp laughed at her and pointed that original version was actually correct one, and then shitta rushed to edit it back and pretend she knew all along.
kawaii

>> No.12628267

Back in my day, we had to break the support disc if we wanted to play our porn games in English.

>> No.12628454

>>12627995
Sheeta doesn't read /jp/ by the way. Nobody important does.

>> No.12628455

>>12628133
It's not even close to done.

>> No.12628470

>>12628454

> >>12628455

Haha.

>> No.12628621

>>12628454
Because people only TL for e-penis and you all are quite dedicated to shitting on that.

>> No.12628631

>>12627976
I remember "just deserts", but I always spell it "desserts" in my head anyway. Can't break that habit.

I vaguely remember that line in 999 and also being confused by it, but props to Aksys.

>> No.12628655

Where is the new thread?

>> No.12629002

>>12628655

It's still Saturday, Anonymous.

>> No.12629218

>>12628454
Doddler is pretty important. Kaisos, Fujifruit, and even herkz read /jp/

>> No.12629488

[21:29] <Moogy> apparently jastusa.com didn't get hacked
[21:29] <Moogy> they're just redoing the site and didn't tell anyone
[21:29] <Moogy> or put up a message
[21:30] <Moogy> i guess it redirects to the old site now
[21:30] <herkz> nice
[21:31] <koestl> lol
[21:31] <Moogy> i asked makoto and he was like "yeah I have nothing to do with this and I can't edit the page oh well"
[21:32] <Moogy> jlist quality
[21:32] <koestl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.12629555

>>12629488
>[21:29] <Moogy> they're just redoing the site and didn't tell anyone
That's what I thought was going on all along.

>> No.12629597

>>12629218
You mean you're herkz and post tlwiki irc logs you're in so you feel like people pay attention to you.

>> No.12629610

>>12628012
True, the biggest changes he makes are finding places to add memes where there weren't any. He is what some would call a "memer."

>> No.12629625

>>12629555
Stop responding to Moogy.

>> No.12629637

>>12629625
Or what? You will run crying to your tumblr?

>> No.12629644

>>12629637
Yes.

>> No.12629806

>>12629218
Those 3 are important how?

>> No.12629821

>>12629806
While herkz is an asshole and deserves to die, he is editor for almost every major release.

>> No.12629835

>>12629821
He clearly isn't a very competent one, considering what he left in some of the subahibi scripts.

>> No.12629855

>>12629835
And yet Grisaia turned out well. I don't know what else he edited, but based on Grisaia he can't be all bad.

>> No.12629894

>>12629855
Did you read Grisaia? It's pretty bad. An editor's job is to make sure things don't read like shit, but he's just there as a place holder for a real editor.

>> No.12629899

>>12629894
>It's pretty bad
Yet its best VN release ever. If Grisaia is "bad", then your asslord ixwreck is "unreparably terrible" (oops, he is anyway).

>> No.12629900

>>12629894
Where is it bad again?

>> No.12629934

>>12629855
Grisaia was fine because of Koestl.

>> No.12630380

>>12629934
Indeed, a good translator makes up for a bad editor because it means that the translation is good by default and the editor doesn't really need to do anything. You could say herkz really pulled a dovac with that game.

>>12629899
>Yet its best VN release ever.
Uh, what? For one thing, Danganronpa.

>> No.12630391

>>12630380
Danganronpa translation isn't good. Better than ixwreck, but they still messed up plenty of jokes and references and overall text flow is meh.

>> No.12630438

>>12630391
You used the word unreparably. What makes you think you're a good judge of translation quality?

>> No.12630443

>>12629821
If you seriously get offended by shit herkz and Moogy say (I don't even know what would that be because they both act like sarcastic teenagers) then I don't know how can you even stand being on this website.

>> No.12630452

>>12630438
Not even him, but it was a quote you dense retard.

>> No.12630886

>>12630452
To be fair, that was easy to miss because the whole post was built on shaky English while criticizing the English of others. That's pretty ironic.

>> No.12630888

>>12630443
I doubt it's being offended so much as being incredibly annoyed. The sarcastic teenager attitude needs to go considering they're both presumably much older than that. They need to act their age. What makes it worse than this website is that these people are supposed to be big names in the VN scene (despite not doing shit) and they still act like that. If they refuse to grow up, I can see why others would think they need to die.

>> No.12630944

>>12630888
>They need to act their age
If they did, they wouldn't be involved in the VN and fansubbing scene at all. It takes a certain juvenile mindset to enjoy otaku media.

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