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Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:27:39 2008 No.1252106 [Reply] [Original]

Yesterday I was trying to find a restaurant in Beppu, and the guy at the hostel had given me shit directions, so I asked a guy I saw standing outside one of the hostess clubs (there was no-one else around), and we both got pretty frustrated due to little proficiency in Japanese and the shit information I was given (I asked for the name of the restaurant and he gave me the name of the street, arsehole). So to kind of shift responsibility I said annoyedly 'watashi no hoteru baka desu!', and the guy gave me a stern look and I think I heard him say some permutation of 'dame'.

But 'baka' just means stupid, right? It can be serious swearing but it's usually not, right? And even if it was, why would he care, he works at a fucking sex club?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:28:04 2008 No.1252109 KAWAII DESU NE MOTHER FUCKER

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:29:07 2008 No.1252114 Cool story, bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:30:43 2008 No.1252119 SO NAN DES KAR?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:30:59 2008 No.1252122 Out

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:31:36 2008 No.1252126 本当ダメよ

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:32:13 2008 No.1252129 File: 135 KB, 640x480, 1220585533683.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1252106 >watashi no hoteru baka desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:37:49 2008 No.1252148 Well if you're not gonna help me fuck you you fuckers, have fun calling me a weeaboo from your basement, I'm the one on the fucking beach and in the onsen every day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:41:03 2008 No.1252161 Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:41:10 2008 No.1252158 ....you told that man "my hotel (is) stupid." and you didn't use the proper particles to construct the sentence. no wonder he didn't take you seriously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:41:23 2008 No.1252159 下げる

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:45:26 2008 No.1252173 >>1252158 I already told you why I said 'my hotel is stupid', they gave me crap directions. 'no' denotes possession, 'desu' is the verb to be. Which particles should I have used then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:46:54 2008 No.1252176 did you just say your hotel is stupid? "dame" can also mean "no good" or "hopeless".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:47:12 2008 No.1252177 >>1252173 The badass particles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:48:11 2008 No.1252181 hostels are for failures get a hotel faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:49:07 2008 No.1252183 watashi no hoteru baka desu!' \| \| SHITTY WEEABOO PRONUNCIATION V watashi no hoteru[,][!] baka desu!'

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:49:38 2008 No.1252186 >>1252173 >Which particles should I have used then? "This hotel is stupid." Like that. In English. You'll look less stupid that way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:49:43 2008 No.1252189 >>1252177 Yeah, that fucker wouldn't have smartmouthed him if he sounded like fucking Sol Badguy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:50:43 2008 No.1252194 hotels cannot be stupid. they are hotels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 03:52:33 2008 No.1252200 >>1252173 or you could've said your hotel gave you bad directions. Shit isn't too hard, "my hotel" "bad directions" and te-form + あげる　くれる　もらう　 sure, you'd sound like an idiot, but at least you are not saying your hotel is an idiot.

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:00:27 2008 No.1252235

>>1252200
I don't fucking know the words for bad directions and whatever it is you've posted in hiragana there. My Japanese is barely understandable, I just came to 4chan to ask why the fuck this guy apparently got offended at 'baka', but from what I can glean from your posts you're taking issue at the very sentence "my hotel is stupid". It makes sense in English, so are you trying to tell me, in your own cute little supercilious way, that it doesn't make sense in Japanese? Even if I did say "my hotel is an idiot" I couldn't give a shit, I'm not aiming for perfect grammar here, just so the guy got the gist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:02:29 2008 No.1252242 >>1252235 Protip: Japanese and English have different sentence structure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:04:09 2008 No.1252252 >>1252242 As in 'my hotel stupid is', which is what I said. Care to elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:05:29 2008 No.1252254 >>1252235 >you're taking issue at the very sentence "my hotel is stupid". It makes sense in English ...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:09:46 2008 No.1252275 >>1252254 For fuck's sake. I've had enough arguing with you twats, I'm gonna go grab lunch and find an onsen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:13:43 2008 No.1252296 >>1252126 本当に

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:20:28 2008 No.1252344

>>1252235
>Even if I did say "my hotel is an idiot" I couldn't give a shit, I'm not aiming for perfect grammar here, just so the guy got the gist.
>>1252275

Very nicely done troll.
But here's my take on this if you were really in need of help.

JAPANESE and ENGLISH are DIFFERENT languages.
The social interaction between the two nations are DIFFERENT. Hell, shit you normally say here can sound dumb as fuck over there and vice versa.

And if I remember correctly, Japan isn't as tolerant of outsiders who can't speak diddly squat of their language. Especially when you actually engage with one of them and waste their time because you suck at saying shit.
America also has this same sentiment, but since we have a lot more foreigners and non-english speakers, we tend to tolerate much of it.

Either the guy was asking you for a reason why your "hotel is an idiot" (which is weird since he had a stern face), or he said something like "hopeless" at the whole situation after earing "my hotel is an idiot".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:24:00 2008 No.1252357 File: 19 KB, 126x254, 1220588640989.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1252275 Try not to catch a cold.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:26:35 2008 No.1252370 >>1252275 >and find an onsen How? with directions?

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:31:59 2008 No.1252389

>>1252173
actually you were also talking about literally about the hotel itself.

the building.

you told that man that the hotel building is stupid.

if you'd said that the people who work there were stupid, that'd be something else.

as for the particle (i'm sure someone's already said this).... you left out the motherfucking topic marker of "wa"

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:33:20 2008 No.1252394 >>1252357 Don't you mean a samui?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:38:28 2008 No.1252418 >>1252394 well played, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:39:36 2008 No.1252429 Perfect troll

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 04:45:50 2008 No.1252465 >>1252429 more trolls need to be like this

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 07:53:10 2008 No.1253065

Op here.

>>1252389
So let me get this straight. When you say 'hoteru', the Japanese will only interpret it to mean the building. Hence the man was confused as to why my hotel building could be stupid and could not see any other possible meaning of the word 'hoteru' I was trying to convey.

I do not know the word for 'people', or 'employee', or 'hotel worker', or 'clerk'. Therefore I used 'hoteru'. If I was a foreigner to America and I said "My hotel is an idiot" in English, would you assume I was talking about the brick and concrete construction? Only if you were incredibly obtuse. Are you telling me that Japanese is so different from English that translating that sentence conveys an entirely difference meaning? I refuse to believe it.

Also, from the books I have read about Japanese, the people themselves tend to leave out big chunks of their sentences: subjects, objects and particles where the meaning of the sentence is assumed. And yet you're having a go at me for leaving out 'wa' in almost the simplest sentence you can construct. I should think the topic of my sentence is pretty fucking clear.

>>1252344
This is a load of bullshit. I, who can speak only slightly more than virtually no Japanese, have had perfectly pleasant conversations with men and women in the street (who speak little English) about where I am from, where I have been, how long I am travelling for etc. I don't know the word for 'day', but they can understand what I mean if I say 'ni-jyu-ji'. I'm sure I fucked up my grammar many a time, but they obviously couldn't give a shit about it because they understand what I mean. I've been given gifts of food and drink by these people. If you can't speak a language, than a native should immediately be able to recognise that and expect mistakes.

tl;dr you're all a bunch of pedantic fucks. Next time I'll take my Japanese language questions elsewhere. inb4 very witty remarks akin to 'good riddance'.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Sep 5 07:54:10 2008 No.1253068 You missed /trv/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 07:54:10 2008 No.1253069 >>1253065 I meant 'ni-jyu-yon-ji'.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 07:55:45 2008 No.1253073 >>1253065 >Next time I'll take my Japanese language questions elsewhere. Took you that long to figure out what you should have done in the first place, huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 07:59:16 2008 No.1253084 >>1253069 Hate to be the stickler 'expert' fag, but it's ni-jyuu-yo-ji (Self-sage for small correction)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:02:09 2008 No.1253089 Good riddance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:02:37 2008 No.1253092 >>1253068 >>1253073 Fuck you in your mouth. You are the cancer that is killing 4chan and /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:05:18 2008 No.1253098 >watashi no hoteru baka desu ಠ_ಠ

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:07:26 2008 No.1253105 >>1253065 Uhh, just because some people might be able to understand what you were trying to say doesn't mean all of them would know what you're trying to say.

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:07:59 2008 No.1253104

>>1253065
You came to 4chan asking for help, what did you expect? Worse, you came to /jp/.
Hell, you have to twist their arm just to get the name of a source, and don't even think about getting a link to it.

If you suck at Japanese and ask for help, you're automatically a troll from /b/, and your question isn't /jp/ related and belongs in /lang/.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Sep 5 08:09:04 2008 No.1253110 >>1253092 What?! How dare you!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:11:34 2008 No.1253115 So in the end, you're just asking if he was offended? Or you're puzzled by his reaction? You're not giving us much to work with, maybe a more detailed version of the conversation?

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:12:26 2008 No.1253120
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give this guy a break at least he is honest and doesn't fanatically believe in some non existant traditions that so many weaboos beleive in.

http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/ The google do you use it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:12:28 2008 No.1253121 >>1253110 Because you sound like a gaiafag/anyotherforumfaggot who thinks he's better than others because he knows about 4chan. Just make that internal shitdickery and we have you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:15:21 2008 No.1253129 This thread is an eyesore.

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>>	sage Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:29:10 2008 No.1253179 you uttered some incomprehensible japanese to a nightclub worker and got scowled at. whoop whoop. also, japanese people don't really say "baka" that much but for some reason weaboos latch onto that term. try "aho" in the west.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:30:10 2008 No.1253182 >>1253179 whoops sage goes in the email field.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:30:11 2008 No.1253183 >>1253179 nice sage

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:31:01 2008 No.1253188
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>>also, japanese people don't really say "baka" that much but for some reason weaboos latch onto that term. try TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE TAWAKE in the west.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:31:36 2008 No.1253190 >>1252235 He didn't get offended, you dolt. Look up the verb 飽きれる - that's what he did. A verbal equivalent of a facepalm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 08:38:46 2008 No.1253219 >>1253188 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2930420 Obligatory.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 11:35:25 2008 No.1253853 >>1253065 >I refuse to believe it. You best believe, motherfucker.

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 14:09:33 2008 No.1254567

MY HOTEL STUPID!!!!!!
lol the guy probably deals with drunk gaijin alot who throw around shit japanese, overuse words like baka and generally act like prats. You can forgive him for having little patience for someone he probably considered to be in the same boat regardless of the fact.

Anonymous Fri Sep 5 14:31:41 2008 No.1254626
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>>1252106
>>1252148

Hey /jp/,

My name is OP, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass touhou pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten out of your basement? I mean, I guess it's fun to play shooters, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than taking Japanese classes.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I spend every day on the beach and onsen. Where have you ever been other than "Imaginary-Japan"? I also get directions, and I'm in a banging hot hoteru (I got here yesterday; Shit was SO baka). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 5 14:44:16 2008 No.1254653 >>1254626 lolwat.

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