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(MAIDS WERE LOVED TENDERLY FOR THIS POST)

>> No.12409647

If they weren't loved tenderly by me then it may as well be rape.

>> No.12409696

Me on the left

>> No.12409738
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>>12409582
About time, too.

>> No.12409773

Flower of Thanatos was pretty deep.

>> No.12409795
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>>12409773
I read it as a weird commentary on the VN itself, especially the idea of endlessly rereading the sex scenes until the characters fade into nothing but props.

I didn't really find it arousing because I wanted something happier for [either of] the maids. Go figure.

>> No.12410022

>>12409795
I'm still confused about the ending with the flower blooming, but Thanatos is the god of death so I just assume they just fuck till they die, which is what can logically happen when the world is just bored Shiki with the maids.

>> No.12410222

>>12409773
It wanted to be deep, but it really doesn't
Nasu can't write about deep feelings, he doesn't have them himself. Probably one of the reasons he concentrated on adventure shit with FSN is that he noticed his efforts in writing visceral stuff weren't that successful

>> No.12410236

>>12410222
But it was pretty deep, anon.

To Shiki's desire getting turned into a twisted nightmare.

>> No.12410246

>>12410236
>to witness Shiki's desire*

>> No.12410252

>>12410236
>>12410246
But that's not deep at all

>> No.12410256

>>12410252
It's to teach/demonstrate you too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

That's a pretty deep lesson.

>> No.12410714

>>12410256
deep =/= making you think slightly.

>> No.12410727

>>12410714
But that's actually what pretty deep is.

"Everything in moderation" is actually an useful lesson in pretty much...everything.

>> No.12410737

>>12410727
But no, that's not what pretty deep is. Only simpleminded people think very common sense based shit like that is deep. Don't be simpleminded, anon.

>> No.12410754

>>12410222
F/SN was surprisingly deep though, with its analysis on the nature of heroism and subtext about what the state of mind a "generic shounen protagonist" would actually be like. Namely, how completely insane you would have to be to never accept failure.

>> No.12410757

>>12410714
>>12410727
If something is too deep, the reason it doesn't appear deep is because what we think is shaped by our experiences, i.e. we mostly think in terms of the self and the core of our axioms is the ego, even if we don't consciously admit it. Many actually deep questions such as "why does the universe exist" are dismissed as shallow simply because they're illogical. However, just because something is illogical, does not mean it is not worth thinking about. You just have to change your way of thinking radically.

>>12410737
What's wrong with being simple-minded? Also, how do you know you yourself are not simple-minded? Maybe some people think you are. Are they themselves simple-minded for thinking you are? See, you're thinking ego-centric.

>> No.12410760

>>12410737
Well, I think deep is how inner layer of the story, you don't have to be complex to be deep, so even a simple story/situation like Flower of Thanatos has a meaningful message.

And common sense is not an argument anyway, "common sense" varies between people and people, it's just another way of saying opinion.

>> No.12410769

>>12410760
>Well, I think depth is the inner layer of the story
Rephrased that.

>> No.12410802

>>12410757
I usually dismiss "too deep" because most of the times it's just complex plot structures trying to hide the lack of actual substance.

It's like watching Evangelion then going on and on about the christian symbol and the Bible allegory when that shit is literal window dressing, the actual theme is a pretty simple "Be more confident in yourself" message.

>> No.12410820

>>12409582
What am I looking at? All I see is a blank image

>> No.12410823

>>12410820
it's a chair

>> No.12410829
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>>12410823

>> No.12410834

>>12410829
Daily reminder that it was Kohaku in Hisui garb who put the chair there to make Shiki go full nuts.

>> No.12411124

>>12410757
>poorly thought out assumptions and broken logic, the post

>> No.12411127 [DELETED] 

>>12411124
who u qot?

>> No.12411129

>>12410760
deep does not mean just meaningful. You can have a meaningful message in a story without it being deep. You can't really interchange the two because being deep implies complexity.

>> No.12411140

>>12411129
Deep does not being imply complexity as all, just the level of implication behind what is literally written.

But fine, I'm fine with FoT just being meaningful, which is what it matters.

>> No.12411149

>>12411140
Your definition of deep is not the typical one, you should expect people to disagree with you unless you make that clear right at the start.

>> No.12411191

>Kohaku kept her socks on

Proving she's the better sister.

>> No.12411217

>>12411140
Then from now on say 'meaningful' instead of 'deep'. Otherwise you're just going to end up making this same, poorly worded argument over and over again with no real reason.

>> No.12412994

>>12411149
Late reply but better than nothing, My definition of deep is the literal one, it has no inherent meaning of complexity
>Extending far down from the top or surface, like a deep gorge the lake was deep and cold - Oxford dictionaries
And it's also from the iceberg theory of literature writing.
So I don't think my definition of deep is atypical.
>>12411217
I sorta agree with this, deep or not deep, being meaningful is more important than being deep anyway, at least in my humble opinion.

>> No.12413190

>>12412994
Its not, my definition of deep is the same as yours.
there's a perceptive gap somewhere between our definition and theirs

>> No.12415707

What an autistic thread.

>> No.12415716

>>12415707

TYPE-MOON threads.

>> No.12415730

>>12415716
Type Moon isn't sophisticated enough for pseudo-intellectuals like this to gravitate to it. This is just /jp/'s underage crowd being autistic as usual.

>> No.12415745
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Love their true selves.

For whom the Hisui smiles; she smiles for thee.

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12419875

>this philosophical circlejerk


I just want to hug the maids
goddamn

stop

>> No.12419951

>>12419875
you want to hug them BECAUSE of the meaningless philosophical pretend shit nasu stuffed in it you stupid cunt. the huge success of typekuso is due in huge part to the same I-want-to-be-deep crap, that is so obscure and charming only because that fuckhead can't write for shit and people takes for cryptic stuff that simply doesn't mean fucking nothing
now you can hug your fucking shitty maids

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>>12409795
That sounds like a horrible porn rip off of Haruhi's endless eight arc.

Sounds like i did not miss much by skipping the VN's and sticking to Melty Blood.

>> No.12420066

>>12420040

How are things over in the reverse time universe where Haruhi was released before Tsukihime?

>> No.12420098

>>12420040
>That sounds like a horrible porn rip off of Haruhi's endless eight arc.

Do you know how idiotic you are?

>Sounds like i did not miss much by skipping the VN's and sticking to Melty Blood.

Surely you must know how idiotic you are.

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>>12420066
Fine. Its a horrible porn rip off of groundhog day. Happy now?
Its still unoriginal and nothing deep and meaningful.

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>>12420040
If you want the original thing then go play Kizuato. Some of the freaking girls are carbon copies from the 5 main heroines.

>> No.12420140

>>12420103
No. If he wants the real thing he should read Shizuku, and then Kizuato.

>> No.12420175

>>12420140
Fine then. First the denpa, then the oni.

>> No.12420210

>>12420102
It's not Groundhog Day.

Do you seriously not understand how idiotic you are?

>> No.12420552

>>12419951
Are you meaning to say that "理解したか？ これが、モノを殺すっていうことだ。" is not the most deepest thing you have ever read? Nasu is a philosopher on par with the classics.

>> No.12420579

>>12420552
Your sarcasm is underwhelming.

>> No.12420818

Who is the killer that Shiki meets and chats with that one night in Kohaku's route? Surely it's not SHIKI, that would be too ridiculous.

>> No.12420891

>>12420818

I think the most common theories are either, yes, SHIKI, or he is just hallucinating.

>> No.12421705

>>12419951
people want to hug cute girls because they're cute girls and feel good to the touch to a man, not because of some pseudo intellectual autistic bullshit that's attached to them.

>> No.12421743

>>12420818
I think it's SHIKI, after all all said and done, Shiki and SHIKI are supposedly good friends despite the bullshit with Akiha.

>> No.12421952

>>12421743
Do Shiki and SHIKI ever fug?

>> No.12423738

>>12421952
uh...

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