Has /jp/ been playing this fucking thing

[Anonymous No.]

>Pic related
http://derxwnakapsyla.tumblr.com/post/94915388140/genso-ningyo-enbu-touhou-puppet-dance
Does anybody played that ? How good it is ?
Will an english patch be released ?

I'm so excited about this game, let's talk about it.
Is that a standalone game or just an hack like the others tohomons ?

[Anonymous No.]

There should be a Touhoumon thread around where the game is currently discussed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12304143

But since the thread is dying might as well make a new Touhoumon thread.

Also it looks pretty promising, I don't understand something though, in the move selection menu while fighting some skills are written in red and some in blue, what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12392848
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12392848
I got a few good hours out of it. It's really nice to have certain knowledge during the demo like the Type-chart, game mechanics, items, and abilities. Translation is happening as we speak; I'm excited for it.

It's a standalone game this time, not a hack. The restrictions of the Pokémon games must've been too much, not to mention how stale Kanto/Hoenn is by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393272
>The restrictions of the Pokémon games must've been too much

You would think that and yet they kept all the restrictions from the Pokémon games anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393296
If anything, the battle presentation is really nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393004
I think red means a physical attack and blue means special.

[ZXNova No.]

The blue and red seems to change. So I'm thinking red means recommended and blue mean unrecommended.

For instance, I'm using Iku vs Nazrin. Iku is Electric, Nazrin is Earth/Steel. Water Bullet is in red, while Lightning Bullet is in blue. Earth is weak to Water, but immune to Electric. So this makes sense.

I fight Iku vs Nitori now. Nitori is Water/Steel. Lightning Bullet is in red, Water Bullet is in blue now. Water resists Water but is weak to Electric. This is what I'm thinking.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12392848
We're working on translating the GUI first off, since it's all image based and likely wont change for the full release. It's also simple phrases and stuff. We've got quite a few of the images translated so far. Text will probably come last.
It's also a standalone game, separate from the Touhoumon Rom hacks. Touhoumon 2.0, if you prefer - a clean break from the 1.x generation.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

Have a screenshot of the translated battle interface while we're at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393461
That S ticks me off, anyway good job.

Is there a type chart yet?

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12393466
As finalized as it'll get. Things may change between now and the full release. Minorly dated, as we changed some of the names of types in translation. Normal is now Mu, Fighting is now Warrior, Phantom is now Nether.

[Anonymous No.]

Op here, glad to see that my thread isn't dead !
>>12393004
Yes, it's better for this game to have it's own thread, he's standalone after all.

>>12393242
At least explain why, dear.

>>12393452
Are you personally involved within the translation ? I love you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393535
>Yes, it's better for this game to have it's own thread, he's standalone after all.

No, I meant that that thread reached the bump limit, also it shouldn't have its own threads, they would die too soon.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12393535
I'm one of the ones working on translating the User Interface. The work on the commands button was my own, and then someone from the server applied some polish to it.
The Shoddy Touhoumon server is working constantly to make sure the game is translated decently, so please wait warmly for updates! (or keep an eye on my blog, i'll probably post about updates there)

[Anonymous No.]

How good is the OST ?

>>12393546
Can we have a link for your blog ?
or is it the one that was posted by OP ?

[Anonymous No.]

No evo in the demo?

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12393573
The OST isn't bad. Quite a few songs there that weren't present in the demo. I like them, but you mileage my vary, And yeah, the link to my blog is the one posted by op. If you want tailored posts, just do a search for Touhoumon or Touhou Puppet Dance Performance.
>>12393584
None. Levels cap at Level 20, also.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393478
What the heck is "Mu"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393621
The most literal translation of the kanji used for the type. It's just basically a romanization of it. No one can decide what the type should be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393621
It's a word that doesnt really translate well into any english word. People have been considering calling it "void" or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393602
>Quite a few songs there that weren't present in the demo.
Do you mean that this is the full game ? I thought it was just a demo.
I hope not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393642
The songs in the demo's archive weren't all used in-game.

[ZXNova No.]

Mu or 無 is the kind of tempoary measure the translating team is using before we can be sure of what to call it in English. 無 literally means nothing, and when we were trying to come up with an equivalent English word, (Void, Null, Nothing, Nigh, Nihil) but there wasn't exactly an agreement. (Albeit Void seems to be the most favorable) Mu is the just he literally pronounciation of 無. And until we know more of what puppets have the typing of 無, we'll just be calling it Mu. Like say, if Koishi was Mu, it would likely be called Void, but Koishi wasn't in here so... we dunno yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393584
I don't think there will even be evolutions in the full game. There are however style changes. You can have Normal, Power, Defense, Assist, Speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393691
Forgot to mention that the style changes aren't available in the demo. There is also an option that I think is to change ability which is also blocked off for the demo.

[ZXNova No.]

> 12393691
I'm pretty sure the style changes are evolutions. Similar to how in 1.8 you have a normal evolution, Attack, Defense, Technical, Helper, and Speed. In fact, it's the same. Minus Technical it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393702
Style change is the third option on the build screen (below buff stats and buy skills).

[ZXNova No.]

I know that already. I'm just saying style changes are basically the same as evolutions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393646
I'd call it normal, since it's also non effective against illusion. But then again, you're the weebs, I'd say to just keep it Mu.

[ZXNova No.]

> 12393776 Wao, someone doesn't like proper translations.

Illusion isn't even the 'ghost' type. So your comment is invalid. The 'ghost' type (now known as nether type) is neutral to Mu, so uh yeah. There is nothing normal about Mu, because Mu is... nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393789
That's why, I imagine normal people getting lost in the illusions or something, but then again, you know your stuff more than me and I don't really care anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393632
I think most people use it as Void/Nothing. Maybe you can translate it as Null?

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12393798
A lot of us are heavily against Null, because it doesn't flow as well as it should for a type name. People are of the opinion Void flows better - I among them - but since nobody can seem to agree, we just did a straight romanization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393809
Yeah, I think Void is the best choice for a type name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393809
Yeah, Void should do the trick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393809
Didn't the dev have a tumbrl too? Isn't simpler to ask instead of getting headaches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393809
What puppets are of this type anyways? That we know of at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393846
Only Reimu and Reisen I think, also the basic attack everyone uses is Mu/void/whatever type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393855
Isn't it Reimu and Patchy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393911
Yeah sorry. I hope we'll get a better idea of the type with other characters, because Reimu and Patchy don't remind me of something null.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393931
It could be "unique" or "untyped."

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393911
Reimu can be rationalized with her ability to "fly away from reality", thus void or null. As for Patchy, perhaps because she uses all kinds of magic and has no real type affiliation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393947
>Reimu can be rationalized with her ability to "fly away from reality"

That's why illusion type exists and she's also part illusion.

[ZXNova No.]

The whole 'what to call 無 type' can easily be solved if we saw what typing Koishi was. But Koishi wasn't in here.

I'm honestly for Void. I was also the first person to suggest it being called Null, but no one liked the name. I guess I liked the name Null because of love for MegaMan Battle Network, and Null just makes more sense there.

Also about Reimu being Mu/Illusion
Gensokyo literally means 'Land of Illusions', and Reimu is considered an 'illusionary' being. In the world of Gensokyo, there is a clear boundary between Reality, Illusion, Fantasy, Virtual, etc.
When Reimu 'floats', she's in a sense, floating away from 'reality' and into fantasy. She's becoming 'void' from 'reality'. And as the Shrine Maiden, she is the protector of Gensokyo. Protector of the 'Land of Illusions'.
Just so there isn't confusion, to the people of Gensokyo, this 'land of illusion' is their reality. I'm sure you guys get what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393976
But Reimu is also in a sense the connection between reality and illusion. With Null being the reality part and Illusion being the actually illusion "void" part (in fact Mu type can't do anything against illusion because it gets lost in it I guess).

There's plenty of time for translation wars anyway.

[ZXNova No.]

Illusion isn't 'void' though. Void/Mu is 無 and Illusion is 幻. The reason why 'Void/Mu' does nothing to Illusion is because Mu is Mu. 無 is void, nothing, nihil. It's a very confusing concept and it would be very confusing to try to make sense of. So it's best not to try it right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12393976
"Void type" isn't more informative to me than "Mu type", honestly. If you asked me to guess what types a "void type" would be weak against or strong against, I wouldn't have a clue without looking at the chart. (Actually, my guess would be neither weak nor strong against anything, which would be wrong.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394029
>The reason why 'Void/Mu' does nothing to Illusion is because Mu is Mu. 無 is void, nothing, nihil.

Then it shouldn't be effective to anything else either, but yeah, let's stop.
Also BN is my favourite serie mang.

[ZXNova No.]

>12394048
Cool dude. My fav game out the series is between 2, 3, and 6. 6 for net play, 3 for story, 2 for nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12392848
Holy shit, its out?
Goddamn, my new computer better come soon.

[Anonymous No.]

No cheating. Boys should pick the boy protagonist.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the battle sprites animated?

[ttly not agastya No.]

>>12394983
yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12394812
My favs are 3 and 6, the rest doesn't really follow an order except for 4 that falls in last place for me, the gameplay was nice but it had something that makes me dislike that game.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

Title screen has been translated, along with the settings user interface. Working on translating the PP Distribution UI shortly.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396959
>>12396962
Fantastic. Thank you for keeping us updated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12396959
>>12396962
Looks good so far !

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

Did some quick work translating some of the simpler interface lines.

[Anonymous No.]

Grinding wild puppets give fuck all experience and there are no decent puppets in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

The human village is pretty big, I like that. Pokemon had tiny fucking cities.

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished the trial. I hope the full game is up to par and introduces more moves and complicates things a little.
The difficulty is good unless you use Alice, Alice rekts shit left and right. One of her moves should be nerfed. Reisen was useless.

I like that you can't switch puppets out after falling and opponent so your first puppet must be carefully chosen. Also the full party getting exp is EXCELLENT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398996
The skill data has room for 1024 moves and there are already approximately 500 of them.

Aside from a ton of moves there are also quite a few status effects we didn't see in the demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398996
You can't do that in Pokemon games either, as long as you set the battle style to "set" instead of "switch" in the options. The only reason to not do that is if you want to cheat a bit to get more experience while grinding various things.

[Anonymous No.]

Those stat requirements are a huge lie, my ancient little Duron managed to run the game just fine with no noticeable slowdown.
Played the game enough to beat the baquartet+bonus fairy, I absolutely love how you can distribute your EVs just like that and the capture system is a nice idea. The permanent Exp. All effect combined with how much experience everything at your level gives makes me worried about how long the full game might be, though.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

WIP so nothing is final. This is only the trial version anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12398501
At first I thought that it was going to be a hub where you return back to town.

[Anonymous No.]

>touhou shit
>begging for translation
sasuga neo /jp/

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

Derxwna bringing you today's update from the front - status screen has been translated, courtesy of one of the other people working on the project. Puppet names have also been translated, but this person hasn't added the translated names to their game yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400989
wtf is this touhou shit? some tumblr thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400989
Please elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401081
it's really popular on reddit I think
I don't know too much about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401052
What does the mark do?
Also is Alice the creator's waifu or something, because she's broken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401052
Mark is basically natures from pokemon but without the downsides. There are 5 different colored marks and they each boost the growth of one of the 5 stats (HP, Focus Attack, Focus Defense, Spread Attack, Spread Defense, Speed).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401132
whoops meant to point my reply to >>12401101

[ttly not agastya No.]

>>12401101
then hemo has good taste

[ZXNova No.]

>12401081
Agastya told me not to reply to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401100
It came from 9Gag, where do you think all those 9 jokes game from?

[ZXNova No.]

Nah, it totally came from facebook

[ZXNova No.]

They have original content... right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401220
One time I posted a funny joke on facebook and a girl hit like. She later redacted it and said she clicked on it by accident, but I think she just has a crush on me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401101
It used to be Mai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12400515
>I absolutely love how you can distribute your EVs just like that and the capture system is a nice idea.

They did improve a few things but it's a shame they stopped there when there are still so many things that could've been fixed.

>only 4 slots for moves
Into the trash it goes.

>no cooldowns on more powerful moves, so you can just keep spamming them all you want
Into the trash it goes.
Or better yet, just get rid of PP/SP entirely and have cooldowns on moves instead, but that would of course require you to have more than 4 moves.
So we don't have situations like these:
>enemy uses attack
>20% HP left
>use potion to get HP back to 100%
>enemy uses the same attack
>20% HP left
>use potion to get HP back to 100%
>enemy uses the same attack
>20% HP left
>use potion to get HP back to 100%
>enemy uses the same attack
^ The item usage is pretty much broken as well.
Make it so that you can only use a single item on each doll in a single battle, but you can still attack on the same turn, so items don't use up your entire turn.
Or something else, I don't know whatever just fix this shit.

>natures
Into the trash it goes.

>ID No.
What is even the point?

This is just some of the stuff off the top of my head that's pretty much fundamentally broken in Pockeyman games that they copied over. I'm sure there's more.
I could be wrong about some of this stuff though, since I haven't played the game that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401263
Sounds like you don't want it to be a pokemon game.

[ZXNova No.]

Pokemon is a terrible game. Confusion and crits are the stupidest things and then they introduced fairy type and megas and now Pokemon is shit.


...

...

I'm joking I swear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401313
X and Y was easy, especially with the EXP share, but it's fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401408
You know, i'm scared that even here HE can be summoned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401416
Careful, anon, he might actually come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401408
All the Pokemon games are piss easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401408
Easier than black and white?

[ZXNova No.]

[Insert your mom joke]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401428
>>12401431
I think it was even easier in comparison to the others, I was always a much higher level than the gyms and most pokemon games require at least a little grinding before entering a gym.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401416
Wriggle is F E M A L E

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401454
God. That's pathetic. I went through most of Black without a single faint, how could it get even easier?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401427
>>12401416
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401478
An infamous shitposter with a raging hatred of Male Goodras.
Has ban evaded far too much and plagues /vp/ and occasionally /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401475
Between the new exp share and the aime boosts there really wasn't much challenge anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401473
BULL
SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401454
>>12401523
You know, you could turn it off and use it only for breeding purposes, but yeah, it was easy a shit.
But the real challange for me is the VGC meta anyway, so it's fine for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401263
So you want a generic rpg?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401150
>>12401101
>>12401262
Pretty sure it's Shinki. I follow him on Pixiv and there's a lot of Shinki, but the Makai crew in general is well-represented. Gengetsu and Mugetsu appear pretty frequently as well.

Exceptionally good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12401263
>What is even the point?
Oh god, what if it gets online options in the future? In fact, why wouldn't it get them? It's a PC game for fuck's sake, and even some horribly optimized doujin games have had an option for direct IP connection to other people.
My interest in this game just rose quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12402553
The trainer card has a section for Win/Loss record. It didn't change at all while I played the demo so I can only assume it's for online.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

Have an evening update folks. Seems we finally know what those last two options are now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403097
That's neat. Fishing for good abilities was always bullshit. Seems sliding evolutions are in though, I wonder how the specifics will be implemented.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403107
The only option I was able to find was to slide back to normal style. It might be a case of text not being implemented yet since it's only a trial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12402280
I said it used to be Mai. Like he drew lots of characters but she was pretty well represented. Later on he became enamoured with Kasen for a little while. Now he just draws whatever, leaning towards PC-98s. And ero for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe it's asking too much, but I hope they'll implement XY breeding mechanics in the new game, even then you'd need to grind a bit anyway since you won't have guaranteed IVs famrs like with friend safaris.

[Anonymous No.]

Why wont they translate Mu as untyped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403673
Because of a dual types I guess. Untyped/(type2) would look dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403688
So what about plain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403688
It's not much worse than Normal being paired with various non-Flying types in Pokémon. What moves or Touhous are associated with the Mu type? Are there any dual-types using it?

[ttly not agastya No.]

>>12403752
we're gonna wait until there's more stuff to name it. right now the only holders of the type are reimu and patchouli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403552
And then there was a period where he drew nothing but Wakisakihime. He's pretty much always drawn ero, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12403761
Good plan. It's possible they'll add new types as well.

>>12403783
Not to the extent he does now.

[Anonymous No.]

How is the translation going

[Anonymous No.]

>>12408881

[Anonymous No.]

>>12409358

[Anonymous No.]

>>12409363
Those item names are very rough and need to be redone with much more thought between the fact that they're puns in Japanese and have tight character count restrictions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12409369
Puppet names are translated but just have not been hex edited into the database file because that's a pain in the dick to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh.
How do I get money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12410340
Wild Puppets and Trainers will drop items which go into the first tab of your inventory. You have to sell these items to get money.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there anything to do after you fight Rumia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12410624
You can battle Reimu if you catch all of the 2hus you can get in the demo.

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you find Iku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12410796
First area.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12412582
I believe that should be "I take it you don't" The question beforehand is in the present tense

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12412647
Yeah I fixed that after I had the screenshot, my mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12410726
So that was the entire demo? Oh well.
I'll wait until the translation is complete to replay it.

[Anonymous No.]

I have to say, the balance in this game is curious. Getting a 150BP move at 19 is nuts. Have there been any discussions on how this will play competitively?

...actually is there even netplay? Guessing not.

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12417011
We have no absolute knowledge of whether these level up movepools are final or not. We have no confirmed knowledge that what we see in the demo will be present in the final release. As for netplay, we have no absolute confirmation, but the inclusion of the "Win/Loss" ratio on the trainer card lends to the theory that some form of battles will be included that contribute to that.

[Anonymous No.]

How long is the demo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12409375
Seems pretty good.
When do you think you're done?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12418499
Here's the current progress:
Images- Almost complete, just a few remain that need to be done by somebody else in the group (since they require pixeling the font).
Attacks- Translation needs to be redone and then edited for style consistency. Attack names have to be hex edited into the database.
Puppets- Names need to be hex edited in.
Dialogue- Untouched.
Battle/Menu Strings- I believe they are all translated. I shared the .exe two days ago with some people asking for playtests and reports but haven't heard anything back.

[Anonymous No.]

Any news ?

[DerxwnaKapsyla No.]

>>12424278
No news is usually good news; progress is slowing down because we're in school again, but like the above stated, we have most of the UI finished. I'm thinking we may have a UI patch out first before a dialogue patch. Keep in mind, all changes are effective for 1.01, and will not work on 1.00.