Infinity thread

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I never see anyone talking about these any more?

Remember11 > Ever17 > Never7

[Anonymous No.]

>ever17
>better than anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306844
epic /v/ro

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306844
Except it's clearly way better than Never7

[Anonymous No.]

because these are pretty much the worst VNs around. it's not - like usually for VNs - just a really dumb story written by 12 year olds for 12 year olds - no - it's on top of that an extremely long, dumb story with 90% of cringeworthy dialogues
i really want to see the /jp/sies dead, who put this crap on the old /jp/-ftp

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306858
>worse than 90% of the shitty eroges /jp/ talks about
That's a good one, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306864
at least the worst VNs i picked up. i'm pretty sure some /jp/sies would even read stuff worse than that

[Anonymous No.]

999 > VLR > Ever17 > *

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306891
Ever17 true route > 999 > VLR > the rest of Ever17

Remember11 still beats all 3 though

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306842
The same reason people don't make CrossChannel or Muvluv threads anymore.

I think ever17 was my 3rd or 4th VN I ever played. Even with the problems it had (silly dues ex machina, constant skipping) I will never forget how beautiful it felt to play through Coco Route for the first and last time.

[Anonymous No.]

Moogy says it's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306842
It is like I am back in 2008.
Check the calendar dude, it is 2014 right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306895
Remember11 needed a true route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306995
Nah, that would ruin the whole point of it

[Anonymous No.]

I should really read Remember 11 already.

Also, why is everyone being all le ironic counterculture about Ever17? It was pretty great all around. The atmosphere of the game was good, the scenes were memorable and heart-string tugging, the music was bretty gud, the mystery was a neat twist, and even though the true route was kind of overblown on the EVERYONE LIVES HAPPILY EVER AFTER THING, I didn't give a shit, I liked the characters enough to just want them to be happy

Please tell me you're not just hating Ever17 because it's a popular VN, jay pea

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307191
Of course that's why, /jp/ hates something if /v/ likes it at all

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

Ever17 is one of those cases where a common route should probably just be removed from the experience. If you reduce Ever17 to just the unique scenes, it's really incredible to read. You just have to skip through all the common route after the first time, which is a lot of stuff to skip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307658
This is true. Whenever you have to skip through the common part it still takes a long time and it feels longer than in 999 when you had to restart and skip text. I'm glad I managed to grind through it and get to the true ending, which was a good read.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god, there's three of them?

Just play 999 instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307670
If you're gonna read just one of them, Remember11 is the best one

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307647
/jp/ hates everything everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307658
What's the matter anon, don't you like chicken sandwiches?

[Anonymous No.]

Ever17: The game puts lots of questions in your head, and answers them as you go along in increasingly greater ways. You reach the end expecting an amazing answer to the biggest question of all, only to find that the author got bored or some shit and couldn't even figure out a good answer to his own fucking story so he resorts to literal magic under the guise of magical unexplainable four-dimensional beings to answer all of his remaining plotholes. Even with this, some plotholes aren't answered.

Remember11: Same as above except there isn't even a magic 4D jesus did it answer, you're just left with zero answers to anything. It actually says "to be continued" at the end. Garbage. Also more retarded magical cocksucker space and time works differently in my universe because I said so, the coffee's taste isn't defined by its material contents but instead by the magic of some "quantum" garbage (which sounds extremely scientific so it must be, another thing this author likes to do a lot).

Never7: Haven't read it, heard it's shit.

This author's a joke, fuck him and all of his shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307806
>Even with this, some plotholes aren't answered.

>TFW you will never find out who kicked that fucking can

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307678
Even Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307806
>you're just left with zero answers to anything
You never bothered to read it properly, did you?
It's perfectly possible to find an answer to everything and the reason it doesn't outright give you the answers is the entire point of the story. The goal of the 'villain' characters was to trap the player character in an infinite loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308424
> and the reason it doesn't outright give you the answers is the entire point of the story
But only the story itself is able to give me answers outright, there is no way for me to obtain them myself. The workings of the story's universe do not fit with reality, which means I cannot reason about how things are going to work in the story. The coffee cups that switch places, appearances, and materials but not flavors? Right after that scene the fucking guy says right there that you cannot use common sense to reason about it? Right here the story is telling you "You cannot reason about me or draw any conclusions about me! You just don't understand the true nature of my Zero-Dimensional Spiritual Quantum Jesusness!". And then it fails to deliver.

But I did draw one conclusion, and that is that this author is a fucker.

> The goal of the 'villain' characters was to trap the player character in an infinite loop
And where was this mentioned? It wasn't, that's where.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308528
Why do you feel the need to space between the arrow and the text you're quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308528
>there is no way for me to obtain them myself
Yes there is. There is no true route in Remember11. If you go back and get a bunch of the bad endings, they add more and more details that they don't tell you in the main routes. There's also a lot of important details in the TIPS that you're supposed to read.

>It wasn't, that's where
It's the entire point of the story. You're calling the story bad because you missed what it was about. Genius.

If you really want me to try and recall as much of it as I can, I guess I will, but it's a lot to type so it'll take a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308540
> Yes there is.
No there isn't. Trying to reason about these blickwinkel assholes never pans out at all because they basically do whatever the fuck the author finds convenient at any given point.

> It's the entire point of the story. You're calling the story bad because you missed what it was about.
The entire story is about setting myself up to spend years theorizing about what *could* have been happening in that story with no actual way of confirming or invalidating any of these ideas because the entire foundation of the story is basically magic disguised as quantumy scientificness fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308562
Jesus Christ anon, you can't be this retarded.
Why don't you just go back and actually read the fucking story again, properly this time, all details included and you'll realise how stupid you look right now.
Everything is explained if you look for it. Since you're apparently too arrogant and stupid to do that yourself, I even offered to explain it for you, but no, you won't have that either for some reason.
It's all confirmed within the VN. Maybe you should pull your head out of your own ass and consider for just a second that perhaps you might be wrong.
Did you even find out why Satoru's girlfriend doesn't recognise him at the end? The reason for that isn't even hard to find, it literally involves changing just one choice near the end and you get the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12307806
Ever17 is his best work imo.
Of all his story, Coco route made the most sense.
It was a truly great experience when you see domino falling into place.

Now fucking I/O on the other hand is pure shit. Truly sad how he keeps on clinging on to Ever17 and keep trying to reproduce the coco route magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308582

Don't feed the trolls, dude. He didn't even understand E17, where all the answers are given to you on a silver platter. Nobody could be that stupid and still know how to breathe, so he is obviously just trying to push your buttons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308582
> It's all confirmed within the VN.

> > > The goal of the 'villain' characters was to trap the player character in an infinite loop
> > And where was this mentioned? It wasn't, that's where.
> It's the entire point of the story.

So is it confirmed or isn't it confirmed?

> Did you even find out why Satoru's girlfriend doesn't recognise him at the end?
Because he's actually in that other nigger's body all along and never even gets to realize that fuck? And that's the problem with that ending as well, not jack nigger shit fuck is explained inside that fuckhole, you just die for no real clear reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308608
Yes, it's all confirmed, it just makes you go on a hell of a journey to find all the information. That's the point of the story.
And what do you mean for no real reason? They kill you, that's why you die.
And you've misunderstood that ending as well. The player insert isn't Satoru, he just thought he was. Satoru and Enomoto switch bodies before the story even begins. The player insert was in Enomoto's body the whole time. The guy with the glasses you meet is Enomoto's mind in Satoru's body. Satoru's mind is effectively destroyed, right at the very beginning. Go and watch the opening scene, where he's climbing the clock tower and you can see his mind is replaced then.

Are you really going to make me try and type this all out, or can you just admit you were wrong already and go and read it again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308606
Oh yeah, those answers sure are delivered on a silver platter. Want to see me answer it all just like they did? Here we go!

Who kicked the can? god did it
Why is the life reading wrong? god did it
Why is Sora or whatever the fuck her name was suddenly able to exist without the computer? god did it
Why is this nigger able to resurrect dead people? god did it
Why were takeshi and coco alive and well on the surface until the very moment fuckerface realized this was actually an impossible outcome, at which point one nig vanished and the other nig instantly decayed into a pile of fuck right on the spot? god did it
Why is the ending of this story absolute garbage? god did it

Quality fuckin' story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308619
You don't need to type any of this shit out, because you pulled it all right out of your ass. Just because it matches up with the story doesn't mean it's the answer to the story (which does not actually exist, because nig the nogger didn't even have time to finish it).

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12307681
That game made me want to stop eating chicken sandwiches, just because I'd read about them eating them so many times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306842
Because they're no longer on sale and all the downloads are dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308633
>refusing to acknowledge anything said
>resorting to childish language
Yep, that's bait alright

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308624
>Who kicked the can?
Metaphysical echo.

>Why is the life reading wrong?
BW getting confused and causing false-positives.

>Why is Sora or whatever the fuck her name was suddenly able to exist without the computer?
Given a robotic body, dipshit.

>Why is this nigger able to resurrect dead people?
BW never out and out resurrects anybody. He saves them before they die.

>Why were takeshi and coco alive and well...
It was a paradox. BW can't simply will them to be there, he has to take logical action to ensure they are.

>Why is the ending of this story absolute garbage?
Because you're a fucking retard incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308624
The fourth dimensional being is the point of the story. It's not deus ex machina if that's the entire point of the fucking story. Two different time periods being viewed by a being from outside of our understanding of reality caused odd things to happen. That's the point. All of the things that happen are specifically caused by the interference of an outside viewer thinking that two different incidents are the same thing, because time has a different meaning for it.

Just because you don't like the story, doesn't mean it isn't good and explained. You are literally whining about not liking the genre. You might as well kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308656
Yeah, it's definitely bait, 100%

No, I don't want to hear your answers because they're all lies that you yourself constructed in a desperate bit of what's essentially buyer's remorse. You burned up hours of time trying to figure out that fucker with nothing to show for it, so you created your own answer inside your mind to feel better.

You got blick winkeled. We all did. The only people who didn't realize it are retards, for whom everything in the games went right over their heads, and people who were in such denial about what just happened that they constructed an elaborate fantasy to avoid it, such as yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308672
I feel really sorry you, anon.
Don't worry, maybe someday you'll manage to escape your foolish little bubble of ignorance and let go of your silly bitterness

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308672
Wow, your frustration is maximum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308668
No, blick nigger is not a satisfactory answer at all.

> You might as well kill yourself.
My, that bootyassiousness is simply astounding! I might as well just report your asshole to crashhelper's dad for an ass buck!

>>12308666
> >Who kicked the can?
> god did it

> >Why is the life reading wrong?
> god did it

> It was a paradox. BW can't simply will them to be there, he has to take logical action to ensure they are.
Doesn't answer my question, nigoola.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308672
>everything in the games went right over their heads
That's some sweet, sweet irony right there.
You didn't understand the story because you didn't read it all. No need to get so mad over your own incompetence, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308701
> You didn't understand the story because you didn't read it all.
No, it is you who is mistaken. Once you truly realize how bad you got fucked by that story, you'll be like me. Your denial will become hatred.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308726
So what you're saying is, you didn't read the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308726

I read the story. I understood the story. So have the other people posting in this thread. The only claiming it made no sense and was full of asspulls is you. So either your intellect is orders of magnitude beyond everyone else and you can find faults we can't see, or your intellect is orders of magnitude below everyone else and you can't understand anything even when it's shoved into your face.

Want to take a guess which is more likely? Hint: It ain't the first option.

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308738
>Want to take a guess which is more likely? Hint: It ain't the first option.

Yeah, pretty much this. Ever17 isn't the best thing ever made, but it's definitely not bad. It's worth reading for being the little cliche snowflake it is, if only for Tsugumi's reveal.

>No, blick nigger is not a satisfactory answer at all.

I'm sorry you are from /pol/. It must be a horrible thing to be from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308752
I'm not "from /pol/". I've been here much longer, and usage of the word "nigger" does not indicate one is "from /pol/", nor does it indicate one even "visits /pol/".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308759
So, are you going to admit you're an idiot yet, or what?

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308759
Being obsessed with niggers usually marks someone as being from /pol/. Like you.

>I've been here much longer

Oh, so you've been here for a week? How nice~

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308770
Seems like a loaded-as-fuck question to me, nig.

>>12308777
I've been here for at least 3 years from what I know, not sure how much longer than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308807
Well maybe if you just considered for a second that you might be wrong and actually read Remember11 in its entirety, we wouldn't have to call you an idiot over and over

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308807
Alabama has been here more than twice the amount you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308815
I did read remember11 in its entirety. That's why I'm pissed that there's no ending. Maybe I would be as deluded as you had I not read ever17 beforehand and learned that this author is complete garbage.

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308807
3 years? You weren't even here for when /jp/ wasn't as shitty as it is now.

Ever17 has been on /jp/ for longer than you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308833
The story of Remember11 is made perfectly clear if you read all of it, so you're either an idiot or you ignored all the TIPS and bad endings

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308829
Even if I assume that to be true, what of it?

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308847
>Even if I assume that to be true

The fact that you don't know it's true is the part that should bother you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308855
How comical! How comical! Now you've all resorted to attacking my character based on how long I've been here. The truth is out, however, that I've been around here longer than all of you combined! Yes, that's right, I've learned your secret. You're all clones placed here by crashhelper's dad, trying to make my cheeks boil. Well it's not going to happen now, because I've figured this all out. How? Well, I saw you fly around the world with a strange white substance shooting out of your asshole as if propelling you forward, of course! And during your flight, it seems you vanished, and yet you're still posting here! How is this possible? The only answer is you're a mere clone and the REAL anonymous of alabama is in the cum universe as we speak, with cum swishing into and out of his ass, inflicting violation as such never before!

Now the only real question remaining is, what does all this have to do with that ass buck I received previously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308885
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen anyone this mad at being called out on their ignorance before.
Are you trying to make yourself look more and more stupid with each post?

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12308885
You should read the autism bucks guide. You'd make a killing in convincing the government that you're completely incapable of functioning in life.

They might assume you're clinically braindead, though, and send you to the vegetable farm, so be careful not to let them see how bad you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308888
>>12308903
Look at these mere clones, trying to make my cheeks boil after I've already exposed their plot. How comical! How comical!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308924
I don't even know what to think any more.
If this is supposed to be bait, it's not like anyone's getting mad at your silliness. If not, well... you need help, anon/

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12308924
God you're pathetic. 100% pure grade loser, seriously.

How comical. How comical.

[Anonymous No.]

Got a feeling I'll be murdered for saying this, but... I like Never7

[Anonymous No.]

>>12311411
I was hoping against hope that this would lead to an H-scene. I had my ochinchin out and everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12311533
You'll never get my cheeks to boil, clone. Your identity has already been outed. Vanish! Vanish immediately! Wait, why are you sticking your ass into that television set, and then trying but failing to pull your bare bootyasscheeks back out? Wow! My sensors are detecting unidentified stars and glitter all over your ass! Wait, now my sensors are detecting unidentified ass tickle as well! Such a thing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12311533
Why did you even bother replying again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12306891
999 was the worst thing I've ever read, I don't understand why people like it. Ever17 was very enjoyable once you got through the boring parts. Maybe if I played 999 without reading Ever17 first I would enjoy it, it was mostly the ending, plot twists and characters that ruined it. I really liked the gameplay (or whatever you call that mixing VN and escape the room elements thing), atmosphere (most of the game at least) and pseudosciecne crap though.

Do people who liked E17 usually like 999 too? Because it seems so.

Remember11 was pretty cool and I liked the whole no-ending go through tips to understand thing. I always go through every possible choice in VNs, it felt like I'm finally getting rewarded for my efforts. I wish more VNs did something like that, where every bad end gives you something.


>>12307681
I kept reading chicken sandwitches while reading this, because I guess I thought it's cool?
Now I can't eat them anymore.

[VDZ No.]

Nobody's going to read this, but still:

>>12308624
You haven't read Never7, which is the source of most of your questions of Ever17.

Who kicked the can?
Nobody kicked the can, or you could say, 'somebody kicked the can'. Nobody kicked the can; rather, the can *was kicked*. As per Never7's Cure Syndrome, if people strongly believe the can has just been kicked, the can will have just been kicked - regardless of whether or not anyone was around to kick it.

Why is the life reading wrong?
Same thing, Cure Syndrome. Conflicting strongly held beliefs (that Coco was or wasn't in LeMU, and that Sora or the dog counted towards the total) influenced the life reading at the same time, causing a different truth to become real every time.

Why is Sora or whatever the fuck her name was suddenly able to exist without the computer?
Pretty sure they explained in-game that she has a robot body. They've had 17 years to prepare one for her.

Why is this nigger able to resurrect dead people?
Actually, Takeshi was never dead, just in a permanent state of unconsciousness. Remember, people with Cure Virus cannot die - not even by drowning. All drowning does is prevent them from becoming conscious again without external stimuli. The body was still very much alive. Furthermore, circumstantial evidence mainly from Remember11 implies that people only die when they realize they should be dead.

Why were takeshi and coco alive and well on the surface until the very moment fuckerface realized this was actually an impossible outcome, at which point one nig vanished and the other nig instantly decayed into a pile of fuck right on the spot?
Because time paradox. As for why they remained until it was noticed, it likely also has to do with Cure Syndrome and the death issue - the consequence is not true until it is believed to be true.

Why is the ending of this story absolute garbage?
Because you have terrible taste.


If you feel Cure Syndrome is a bullshit asspull and basically an excuse for plot hax...then I can only agree with you. I really dislike it myself, but Never7 made it canon and Ever17 and Remember11 go by the rules Never7 has set.

[VDZ No.]

>>12308528
>> The goal of the 'villain' characters was to trap the player character in an infinite loop
>And where was this mentioned? It wasn't, that's where.

From the prologue:
And David played with his hand, as at other times...
And there was a javelin in Saul's hand...
And Saul cast the javelin; for he said...
I will smite David even to the wall with it...
[...]
I will smite David...
Even if he avoided it twice...

And from TIP 88, That Guy:
[...]
If we were to come up with an example, this person would be David.
Without a doubt, this person was a "king" who entirely ruled them.
And....
To "him," a hateful enemy.
"Him"——if we were to come up with an example, would be Saul.
[...]

And from TIP 89, David:
[...]
The magical power of the Star of Solomon
seals the inner demons inside
the infinity loop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12315063,2
>>12315063,1
Just what do you think you're doing, buddy?

Ya stepped into the wrong archive. Best git outta here before the w-boys show up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12315063,1
>>12315063,2
lmao i can't believe you actually wasted time writing this