Kantai Collection — KanColle

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Last Thread: >>12266255

English Wiki: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

Please read (before asking newbie questions)
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://imgur.com/a/7HZO7/all

Japanese Wikis:
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others:
Air Superiority Calculator: https://googledrive.com/host/0B97S3y_L0wtXbW1TaDh5WG9XTjA/index2.html
Detailed Battle Mechanics: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/
Kancolle Viewer: https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Kancolle Viewer (Translated): https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer
https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

[Anonymous No.]

This shit any good. I like RPGs with lots of story and lots of numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish PVP was fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272790
>RPG
It's a resource management-slash-card game that relies a lot on RNG and weighing cost vs opportunity.

>lots of story
What little story is based on their World War 2 counterparts. If you're not a military or historyfag, lots of their lines will fly over your head.

>lots of numbers
You only really need to keep track of your four resources: fuel, ammo, steel and bauxite. Each ship has their own stats, but I won't talk about them here.

>this shit
>any good(?)
Fuck you too, illiterate fag.

[Anonymous No.]

Just started playing.
What should I be doing in preparation for this big event everyone keeps talking about?

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>>12272790
This shit is awful. It has no story, and combat is all about four numbers that max out after a week. And levels, which you make go up.

>>12272825
Stock up on resources and buckets. Level a heavy event team and probably a few ships from classes they'll try and make you use. If you have a lot of resources, make Reppu.

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>>12272825
If you don't have carriers, now's the time to craft and grind them. Other than that, try your best to craft decent planes; don't overspend though, you still have to stockpile, especially with bauxite.

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>>12272825
Don't bother going paranoid over it, you'll be able to do the first few maps no matter you do, and the advanced maps probably won't be worth the stress at your level. Just play at your pace.

This is a carrier event, but it is not certain whether the earlier maps will feature carriers. Might still help to train them a bit, if you happen to get any (Akagi is an easy quest reward, don't forget to get her). Since you're new you'll probably have a bauxite overflow, so you shouldn't worry about your bauxite reserves. For other resources, stay near your resource cap, but don't go over it just yet.

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>>12272825
Stockpile 100k each.

[Anonymous No.]

Are your carriers ready?

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>>12272908
95 Kaga, 95 Taiho, 81 Shokaku, 62 Ryujo, 52 Chiyoda. 3 Reppus, 3 Shiden Kai 2, Reppu Kai.

It's not like we'll ever need more than 3 CVs. Might need a CV/CVL mixture though, that would be annoying. Should've leveled Ryujo higher before she got her second remodel.

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Just want to make sure, but there's only the one composition and two expedition quests that require Taigei, right?

I should be good to remodel her once I get this stupid third exp 39 run done, right?

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>>12272908
Maybe.
Red - 98
Blue - 77
Green - 77
Orange - 81
Silver - 115
Twintails - 80
Black? - 92

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>>12272911
>It's not like we'll ever need more than 3 CVs
I'm convinced the final map will need 4CVs. This event is supposed to be the carrier's long awaited time in the spotlight, so I don't see why it can't happen.

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>>12272911
Leave out the u in their names one more time, I fucking dare you.

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Can you pick up subs from the 1-5 boss node without an S victory? I currently have very little fuel and an inability to not sortie something constantly. So I'm looking for subs (I currently only have one), but if they won't drop at A rank then there's no point travelling to the boss node.

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>>12272924
What, it's how I prononce their names. It only makes sense.

Why would yo take issue abot that?

>>12272921
I hope not. Even Spring E5 had an alternative for 3BBs.

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>>12272930
I get it, fnny man.

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>>12272918
Not black, flat.

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>>12272908
I dunno, should I really get Chitose and Chiyoda up there too? All I'm actually hoping to get now is Hiryuu

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>>12272931
I do mean it, though. That "Ryuujou" nonsense never really flew with me. I read it as Ryujo, so I damn well reserve the right to spell it as such.

You say Tousaka, I say Tohsaka. Same difference.

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>>12272929
Yes, the chance is just lower. But you should be getting S every single time with whatever you sortier when you're below 80 HQ. Put your ASW gear on.

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>>12272935
What's your ttk level?

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>>12272937
Do you really? Vocaroo it.

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>>12272937
dude there's fucking furigana on the cards

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>>12272937
>so I damn well reserve the right to spell it as such
No, you fucking don't. You spell it like it's supposed to be read, not how you read it. Try rewriting the English dictionary with your new words instead.

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>>12272938
I've avoided development because the chances seem so low that you're just throwing resources away. But I guess I need to focus less on the 2.5% good equips and just take the 11% basic equips to start out.

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>>12272939
It's level 65

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Don't forget to yasen your Sendai every day

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>>12272949
The development cost is ridiculously low. Try crying about crafting holo planes. You WILL need it, so craft it. Even the low level ASW is enough. Radar + deep charge.
But considering that your level is 65, I suggest not spamming 1-5 too much so your level doesn't get inflated.

[Anonymous No.]

As a new player, what would you say be the biggest mistake I should avoid when trying to assemble my group of cute shipgirls?

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>>12272957
MY >>12272949 level is 33, the 65 is the guy with the carrier list. Although I'm aware of the lvl 40 difficulty boost.

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>>12272960
LSC.

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>>12272960
Caring about internet people whining.
Life's super easy not for new Ts now, just take it easy and don't throw your resources away too much.

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>>12272960
Don't obsess over building your dream fleet, just naturally progress through the game and appreciate the girls you have. Also do your dailies.

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>>12272962
Still, take it slow and rely on expedition instead. Even if you get another sub, 2 low level SS is not a reliable income source. Plus you don't even get a chance at Iku and Hachi at your level. They just don't drop.

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>>12272949
Just you wait until you're throwing away 10/300/251/250 for that 2.5% chance instead of 10/30/10/10.

>>12272946
You're given some leeway on how you romanize and Ryujo is a perfectly valid way to do it.

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>>12272968
> Plus you don't even get a chance at Iku and Hachi at your level. They just don't drop.
That's news to me. I was hoping I could use a sub fleet to gather fuel and keep my hands off my main fleet.

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>>12272921
The fact that they're putting out a larger number of maps in two worlds makes it more likely. Even if they think 4 full CVs is an excessive requirement, simply allowing CVLs would make the requirement trivial for everyone, but the power gap would mean you better have 4 CVs.

There's also the possibility of a map where the number of CVs isn't a hard requirement, but the more you have, the easier it gets, like dive bombers doing extra damage the way sanshiki used to.

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>>12272960
Read up on battle mechanics and play around with equipment setups early. Should help you play more efficiently earlier in your career.

Also, don't proceed into a new node with ships in red, don't dump resources into LSC until waaaaaay later in your TTK career, and get into the habit of doing your dailies consistently.

Lastly, lurk before you post. Especially for beginner questions, chances are someone else has already answered your question before. That and nobody cares about your early blogshit no matter how amazing it may seem to you. Everyone's been down that block before.

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>>12272973
>You're given some leeway on how you romanize and Ryujo is a perfectly valid way to do it.
It's leaving out characters. You can spell Akagi "Kagi" and Shoukaku with "Shiukaku". It's just one character, right?

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>>12272973
There's a standardized way to romanize, so I'm not sure what "leeway" you're talking about

It's especially egregious considering that the standardized way properly replicates the way things are pronounced, whereas your way is at best only an approximation, or at worst, just flat out wrong.

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>>12272982
>nobody cares about your early blogshit no matter how amazing it may seem to you. Everyone's been down that block before
Nobody cares about high level blogshit either, but that hasn't ever stopped anyone.

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>>12272983
Fine, characters it is then. I have Kaga at 95, Taihou at 95, Shoukaku at 81, Ryuujou at 62 and Chiyoda at 52. My Akagi, Hiryuu and Sauriu are at level 1.

Is this better?

[Anonymous No.]

Kancolle threads are allowed on may again?
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/273928041.htm

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>>12272998
who is Sauriu? :^)

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>>12272998
Yes, good. Don't forget to say Reppuu.

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>>12273013
Congo. Try to spell your name in an alphabet you barely know. Try Hebrew or Cyrillic for easy mode.

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>>12273002
She's the gao gao stegosaurus carrier.

She will soon get a remodel that adds bone plates on her flight deck and makes her able to breathe fire.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, no! What is it?! Its a real SAGEHIDE.

[Anonymous No.]

Did that Warship Mechanism guy from two threads ago get his books yet?

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>>12273042
Not yet, I live in the middle of nowhere and my shithole of country is notorious for it's bad postal service.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best fleet comp if I want to give my flag Souryuu MVP every 3-2 run?

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>>12273086
Almost anything. If you only have a single CV loaded to the brim with Ryuusei it's really weird when you don't get MVP.

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>>12273086
Souryuu, 4 dds, 1 sub.

┓(ﾟヘﾟ;)┏

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>>12273086
Soryuu, five CVLs and maruyu.

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>>12273096
>7 kanmusus

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>>12273100
Oh huh.

It's quite late here, time for me to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

Got my first battleship (ise/fusou yuck)
Tried out Akagi

They got mod damaged and it costs 250 steel for the both of them.......

Jeez

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>>12273019
But the manufacturer, Vickers, uses Kongo, as does the US Navy: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japsh-k/kongo2.htm

Historians from other English-speaking countries do it, too: http://www.navyhistory.org.au/japanese-battle-cruiser-kongo/

Japan uses Kongo for the mountain the ship is named after, and they're all taught the English alphabet in school these days.
http://www.chihayaakasaka.org/e-index.html

What official sources use Kongou or Congo?

>>12273100
Maruyu counts as -1.

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>>12273111
Stop it, people will always think that the bastard-child between Hepburn and Kunrei that Anime-fans like to use is the only way to romanize Japanese.

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>>12273111
>>12273135
Isn't it "kongou" on the game card though?

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>>12272786

Holy shit OP, couldn't you find a better picture for Souryuu's Kai Ni? Pic looks plain as fuck

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>>12273211
金剛
こんごう

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Boy, I hate being late on kai2. Myoukou at 55 et Souryuu at 73.

Anyway - do you think there's going to be more new stuff coming from our new sparkling CV kai2 ?
My bet is on the same setup as Hiryuu, but the Tomonaga planes / quest being replaced by Souryuu's air commander, but I can't find who that is.

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>>12273229
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B1%9F%E8%8D%89%E9%9A%86%E7%B9%81

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Do you still remember her, /jp/? The girl who put up with your awkward, inexperienced commands in the beginning? She stood by patiently as new, more powerful girls joined the fleet. Even if you don't use her, she's still there, awaiting orders.

What's her name, /jp/? Do you love her?

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>>12273232
>http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B1%9F%E8%8D%89%E9%9A%86%E7%B9%81
So I gues we have a +15 bombing suisei on it's way, nice.

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>>12273237
My samidare is 76 and still active, head of the first expeditionary team.


I just realized the only way to win back the dragon's smiles might be to use them as fatal-blowers on last event map. .. I gues they are fine the way they are.

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>>12272825

Hereby are all my regrets on my TTK life. Hoping you won't make the same mistakes.

- Don't craft for specific ships. Instead, learn to-use what you have available reading the qikia combat section. If you really want an specific ship, grind the map in which it drops. There is a list of drops in the wiki.

- Get used early to sending expeditions. Don't sub slave otherwise your TTK level will skyrocket making the game harder while your ships stay underleveled

- Try to do your dailies and most of the weeklies, but take into account how much resources you are using for doing then. Try to allways have a positive balance. Subs are useful for the dailies.

- Make an effort to visit the equipment crafting page of the japanese wiki. Is much more useful than the english.

- do all the PvP matches whenever you can.

And those are all that come to my mind now. I may remember others later

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>>12273237
Samidare is still alive and well-loved, but I guess I should train Ichiban. Maybe later after the event.

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>>12273237
Her name is Samidare and I've always and will always use her.

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>>12273237
Murakumo, still flagship of the second fleet and in charge of not letting the carriers die.

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>>12273246
>>12273253
>>12273256
Men of great taste, I'm happy.

Not that any other starter isn't lovely, mind you.

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>>12273237

My Sazanami is level 39 and she hasn't seen much action since Kiska Islands. She's been helping with expeditions all the time though.

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>>12273250
Do your equipment crafting only in dailies. Do not do any more than that.

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>>12273237
Inazuma still sees a lot of action, and the only destroyer I have that's higher level than her is Yukikaze, by one level.

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>>12273237
My Inazuma is level 40 and she's in my 1-5 fleet

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>>12273237
I scarped mine.

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>>12273309
You clearly should hate money more.

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Leveling carriers is suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyonw gotten this lately? I've been disconnected a lot today and it's hard to get back in.

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>>12273237
I sank her in under three days.

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>>12273334
Are you using a proxy or something? It might be because your internet settings is messed up.

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>>12273338
Nope. Using KCV's region cookie option. It's only been acting up today for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Try going to DMM using Internet Explorer, make sure you cookie thing is enabled. If you still get the same error then it might be because your DNS setting is messed up.

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>>12273100
Who are you quoting?

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How do I stop my CVLs from stealing MVP from my flagship in 3-2?

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>>12273368
Scrap her.

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>>12273334
Not directly related, but try updating kcv to the last version

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>>12273371
Isn't the one in the pic the latest?

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>>12273372
No. 470 is.

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>>12273374
I only see 461 on the Github.

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>>12273381
https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer/releases
Zharay quit working on it and someone else took his spot for the meantime.

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>>12273385
Oh. I must have missed those threads.

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>>12272960
Falling for paranoia and fear. Play at your own pace and level your ship. Natural regen and stockpiling during event will let you clear it. You can't fight a war with outdated equipment and newbies.

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>>12272960
Don't gamble when your shipgirls are in the red. Just go home.

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>>12273441
Not tanned?!

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>>12273237
Good timing, she just happened to be flagship of the first fleet and sparkling already.

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>>12273477
>marrying useless destroyers
Why?

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>>12273484
Why don't you ask all the event bosses she killed in night battle?

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>>12273477
>your other ships do the work
>useless destroyer gets the credit

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>>12273497
>>12273484
Who are you quoting?

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>>12273505
Him.

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>>12273516
Him? It wasn't clear what you meant, since you couldn't be referring to anyone in this thread, so I googled it, and apparently you're quoting a Finnish rock band.

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>>12273477
Kind of romantic marrying your first ship. I wonder if she has flash backs on the day she met you and up to the point of proposal.

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>>12273539
"Just how man times did he grind me at THAT map."

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>>12273237
Accidentally went Fubuki when I wanted Murakumo.

Scrapped her within a day or two.

No regrets.

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>>12273237

I'm leveling her right now since I'm pretty much done with my preparations for midway, I even turned on the BGM to feel like the good ol' days.

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>>12273539
You do realizing that you're being NTR'd by the hundreds of men she's had literally inside of her, right?

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>>12273237
She's accidentally scrapped when I first playing, but got another one that I raised to level 57 and stopped there.

Her name was Samidare.

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>>12273647
>men
fairies.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the recompiled version of kencolle tool, or am I the only XP user who tries to use that?

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>>12273691
enjoy your ban

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>>12273696
Sorry about that, didnt expect people replying to me so fast, wanted to repost with a picture.

post i deleted was "does anyone have the recompiled version of kencolle tool"

about the ban, i only want to use it for the ingame trans. even if I do get banned, my concious i clear and thats what importent (to me)

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>>12273707
>Kencolle

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>>12273707
>importent

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>>12273707
>concious

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>>12273729
>>12273730
>>12273732
Since when did image reply and greentexts became favorable by the quality chekers on /jp/?

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>>12273736
>chekers

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>>12273736
>image reply
*reaction images

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>>12273740
>I hate kancolle so ill hijack the threead by being a grammarnazi
Well, if you must.

Why do you hate Kancolle, anon?

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>>12273750
>threead
>>12273736

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>>12273750
Are we pretending to be retarded now?

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>>12273756
Im not a qualeety cheker togh.
y do u hate kencola, anon?

>>12273757
Just wanted to remind him that making a scene about spelling is dumb.

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明日【7/18(金曜日)】実施予定の「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、二航戦として飛龍と共に緒戦を活躍、ミッドウェー海戦で戦没したある航空母艦のさらなる改装(改造)及び同艦載機のアップデート等を予定しています。

Here we go.

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>>12273771


Fuck, my Souryuu is still lvl 70.

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Does anyone have a recompiled version of kancolle tool / viewer? There seems to be a problem in using it on windows XP.

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>>12273775
Check the OP.

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>>12273778
I downloaded the viewer and tool sources as .zip yesterday, but I'm not sure how continue from here as I never used QT before. That is why i wanted to check if someone else had my problem (swprintf_s not found on msvcrt.dll) and did the appropriate steps to fix it (patching QT and recompiling the source code) before immersing myself in selfteaching.

Still, thank you for your care.

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>>12273778
Thanks! I think I'll start playing tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

Three out of five people in my PVP list are grinding Furutaka today.

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>>12273811
Why Furutaka? Is it a coincidence or did the devs hints at Furutaka k2?

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>>12273817
Nothing relevant was seen on Twitter but I'd like to know this myself.

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>>12273822
Why are you believing on a shitty Rear TTK? Are you stupid?

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>>12273817
Ships that are highly active in a battle or with great achievement most likely will get a Kai 2(They call it武勲艦). A lot of current Kai 2 like Poi and Ayanami are one of them, so is Furutaka.

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>>12273839
Because he's not the only one you imbecile.

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So TTK's who was your first ship waifu?

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>>12273111
The retort to all of your links is the exact same post that you replied to.
While they're all taught English alphabet nowadays, I doubt they excel at it. There are many recordings of seiyuu struggling to read something in latin alphabet.
The point of romanization is that so you can accurately represent the original sound. When someone says Kongo, the ending is short. But the difference between short and long vowel is absolutely critical in this language. If you said りゅじょ, it wouldn't mean anything. Exact same thing with こんご, it's not the mountain, it's not the ship, only if it's in katakana, it is a country, which is why I said Congo in my post. You must really like the place.
>>12273135
I really wouldn't care had he gone full Hepburn and started using macrons. At least that would make sense. Repeating the mistakes that someone else made many decades ago, just because they were a big-shot, is stupid.

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>>12273851
Again,
>Believing on low-level ranked Admirals
Thanks, you just proved yourself that you're among those idiots. Congrats.

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>>12273862
>They must be idiots because they're low ranked
Gosh, you have been institutionalized.

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>>12273862
Is this babby's first attempt at ranking?

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>>12273862
Hahaha, check this internet tough guy out.

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>>12273866
Ignore him, he hate kancolle so he tries to troll.

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>>12273866
>>12273869
>>12273870
>Birds of the same feather flock together

Are you guys 12? Can't believe I was talking to some idiots now, or maybe I'm getting trolled.

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>>12273877
I don't see the sentence that you quoted in their posts.

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>>12273862
Who are you quoting?

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>>12273877
You tried so hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Kaga finally dropped so my CV team consists of Akagi and Shokaku in their 40's with Soryuu as a backup. Is it worth training Kaga up to take Akagi's spot if I give her Reppu Kai in her third slot and give Shokaku all bombers? Is that enough punch for most maps?

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>>12273886
You see, this guy isn't even trying. He leaves out the most of the u and then uses it at the end of Souryuu.

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>>12273886

>>12272786
>Air Superiority Calculator

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>>12273218
>better picture
>Pic looks plain as fuck
Opinions, anon. I like simple and cute artworks, not titty fests and unrealistic breasts. Why not start the next thread or better yet, post one of your "better pictures" here?

>Souryuu's Kai Ni
Holy shit faggot, you can travel forward in time? How does Haruna's Kai 2 look like?

[Anonymous No.]

Lets all copy-paste our favourite pictures from booru.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else just gotten really lazy despite not being near the resource limit? I have no will to play the game outside of events anymore.

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>>12273922
You burned out because you weren't taking it easy.

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>>12273922
I quit a while back when I sank my married ship. I made a new account and taking it easy, I'll just skip Midway.

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>>12273922
This:
>>12273926

Happened to me on so many games. the trick is to find several subject that interest you and not burn yourself on a single game/ book/ whatever.
Moderate your activity, and you'll be able to enjoy those games for long.

For now, take a break from kancolle.

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>>12273896
Doesn't take in to account non-carrier seaplane bombers. Assuming I'm not an idiot manually accounting for my BBV's planes saved me 2 slots.

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>>12273900
I hope Haruna Kai In looks like the proper demure goddess that she is.

[Anonymous No.]

It's amazing to see how many people in futaba is under 50k resources and still doing LSC.

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>>12273936
And?

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>>12273936
People in futaba arent idiot.
Over here everyone fell for the devs lies and fear mongering.

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>>12273936
20k is enough.

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>>12273926
Not him, but I took it easier than anyone else in the world and still lost interest. The last time I did a non-trivial daily was weeks ago, I haven't done my weeklies since probably Arpeggio.

Incidentally, no submarine weekly means no scrap quest means no drums means no Neo Tokyo Express means no 2-5 quest chain, so I haven't done that either.

I think it's because slowly, over time, I learned to resent the community, and after that it stopped being fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273940
This is not an MMO, there's no interaction with the community if you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273936
If you are constantly doing LSC, it's a good idea to keep your resources under regen cap. You can get 1-2 extra attempts every week, which is huge if you are not scripting/no life gaming 12*7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273943
Without anyone to talk to it's even more boring than it already is. Either I changed or the threads changed and I don't know which.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273940
Not the one you replied to, but if you play to often you'll lose interest in the game, but the other way around will make you lose attachment to the ships.
Play it whenever you feel like it, as long as you don't overdo it. if whenever you feel like is once a week, than you didn't really like the game in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273949
I never liked this game, I just played it because I liked the characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273952
Isn't that the case for all of us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273952
Then drop the game and focus on doujins.
Do you know of any good fanmade kancolle game?

[Anonymous No.]

KanColle is so half-assed it feels like a fanmade game itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273957
I think one of the deterrents is that Kancolle is a voiced game, which is a huge asset that fangames are more or less barred from capitalizing on. I haven't even seen a preview - although I've never really gone looking.

It could also be that it's because nobody uploads shit. There are like, ten non-H Kancolle doujins uploaded to PD, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273957

afaik Kadokawa has blocked ay possibility of a doujin game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273934
Me too, Anon. Me too. Here's hoping Konishi can redeem himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273940
>blaming others for your own lack of interest
At least take some of the fucking blame yourself, anon. No one's forcing you to interact with the community,

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273963
>There are like, ten non-H Kancolle doujins uploaded to PD, ever.
Well,
http://www.batoto.net/search?name=kancolle&name_cond=c&dosubmit=Search

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273972
A lot of those come from Pixiv, Chinese sources, or anonymous purchases by 4channers. For some reason the Japanese never uploaded non-H Kancolle the way they used to mass upload Touhou. I still check up on the new ones.

>>12273971
If Kancolle was required to be played completely solitary, it wouldn't be a percent as popular as it is.

Also it's a lot more fun to blame other people than blame yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273972
Jesus Christ, the anthologies are as funny as ever. Thanks for sharing, Anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273981
Yeah, you're right. The collective whining and blogposting makes the tedious stuff and RNG so much more bearable.

>Also it's a lot more fun to blame other people than blame yourself.
I guess. It's more easier to shift the blame and be a coward than take the blame and be a man, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273981
>If Kancolle was required to be played completely solitary, it wouldn't be a percent as popular as it is.
This. I feel that a big part of kancolle comes from bragging that you have so-and-so and completed these maps in that amount of time (especially around events).

Yes, it's a completely stupid metric, since the game is 95% RNG and 5% are-you-using-the-right-equipment, but I think that the ability to wave your so-called trophy ships in other player's faces constitutes a significant part of the "fun" aspect.

Also, the tears of those who sink their kanmusus are delicious and hilarious, as do those who carelessly dump 1.5k USD into a Bismarck that never materialized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273940
I think that some of the older servers are slowly losing player base.

I'm from Oominato (the 5th server) and these days I can login immediately after maintenance without a problem.
I remember last year the servers would be jammed so badly I wouldn't be able to see my girls until 5 hours after maintenance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273989
Tatsuta is underrated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274006
I think that's just a sign that they've improved their server response times as well as the net code for the actual game.

A real measure would be to see how easy it is to rank on older servers.

[Anonymous No.]

Care to fill in the blanks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274014
Still hard. It's always the same 500+ people dominating the top 500. I stopped giving a shit because I have college projects.

However it's somewhat easier to get within top 1000 now, and I usually get to 大将 without having to put in any real effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900
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[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274025
>>12274027
>>12274029
>>12274031
Truly the cutest standard carrier. I like her a lot and am glad she exists. I hope they don't steal her smile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274012
I want to marry Tatsuta but I don't think I can handle it when she rejects me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

;;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

;;;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273900

-

[Anonymous No.]

航空母艦、蒼龍です。空母機動艦隊を編成するなら、私もぜひ入れてね！

[Anonymous No.]

We get it. There's no need to spam this thread, try /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

Twintails = wife

[Anonymous No.]

おねがい
Should I take another dose of meds and just try and hammer through this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273938
People on futaba aren't autistic.
Over here everyone is NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is leveling BBs easier than leveling CVs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274062
They're about the same if you balance them out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274066
I don't know. My BBs get MVP 100% of the time when doing 3-2 while my CVs usually get their MVP stolen by another ship.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

logbook 0.6.5 is up. Changes:
* Ship and equipment info update.
* Notification for (lack of) empty dock space.
* Custom color for resource chart.

I'm too lazy to update the quest translation.

>>12274006
Oominato isn't exactly a big server. Rabaul or Shortlands alone holds ~100k population, which is 50 percent more.
Although it's true that Oominato was one of the more problematic ones, i think the delay for last year's fall event was because of Oominato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274025
>>12274029
>>12274031
>>12274037
>>12274039
Good taste. Thanks for sharing.

>>12274027
Dat lighting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274074
If you take them out before the shelling phase with all-powerful Rkai, BBs won't do anything. Also 3-2 is so old, grandpa. It's not even good anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274083
I haven't reached 5-4 yet.
And I use shitty planes so I'm always sure it leaves at least one ship alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274083
5-4 is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274092
Are you stuck at 5-3?
I'm stuck at 5-3. I'd sell my firstborn to get past this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274097
Line abreast on pre-boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274097
4-3
I'm sure I can do it if I keep bucketing them and get lucky but I just can't be bothered with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274101
I'll try that. I've been using double line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274103
I don't even know how it's possible to get stuck on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274083
Just because its not the best option doesn't mean its not good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274111
I'm not necessarily stuck, I just can't be bothered with it anymore. I think I crafted my Taiho when I was doing that and stopped advancing to level her up. Then I wanted to get my BBs leveled, then my other CVs and eventually just stopped advancing altogether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274109
You'll evade less, but when they get damaged, it will usually be scratch. I recommend taking at least one BB so you actually do something during the day battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274116
Who's Taiho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274120
Taihou

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274081
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274097
Why don't you use all those night battle eqp they implemented?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274125
Placebo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274125
Because its not really helping much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274125
Don't have any, except the searchlight.

Debated whether I should level for the new remodels now or try to clear 5-3 to make leveling easier. I decided to go with the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274130
>>12274131
>>12274132
I use starshell and the recon plane. That is not a placebo to me. 2-5 north route becomes hell lot easier for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274134
What's your set-up? Do you bring drums too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274134
We were talking about 5-3. I can't remember ever being stopped by a Cut-in there, so equipment to reduce cut-in rate would have been useless.
2-5 is a different beast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274139
Not the same person, but I've never touched 5-3 once I cleared it. It's traumatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274136
Yep. 2 drums. I have rolled with 2xCA 4xCAV. 1x searchlight 1x starshell on the flag, another ship carry 1x starshell 1x night recon.

This works with all CAV as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I did better than I thought I was going to do, not that it was much of an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274147

seconded, I cleared it recently (God bless you Kongou). The trauma came when I actually got an S Rank on my before last time I destroyed the transport ship and I got confident so I decided to go for the last part in one go.

Fucking double Ta and I've never wanted to strangle a ship more than that fucking troll sub.

75 buckets, lots of anguish and guilt over resources spent that otherwise would go to Midway.

God, I hat that map, I hate Ri, I hate Ta, I hate the subs.

[S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12274160
No matter how you slice it, you will receive a D rank for that. Also I'm not sure why did you bring Kumano. let alone a fleet of DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

idk why the touhou grandpas still refuse to be assimilated by the superior game
better waifus, better gameplay, better everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274184
Think about it, now you've unlocked 5-4 and that place is hella easy to grind and you get good drops and even pays for itself with a guaranteed 115 fuel node.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you need to clear world 3 and 4 to unlock 5 or just world 4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274193
Both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274196
Well shit. I guess I need to level up my shitty destroyers after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274186
kumano is only there because DDs can't carry star shells

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274214
but they can

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274217
well shit i've never tried

they can't carry the night plane though

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274214
Why would you expect a PvP fleet to have cut-in setups?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274224
my DDs are setup to cutin because they weren't able to kill things with double attacks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274191
By the time I unlocked 5-4, I got most of the ships I wanted and the ones I am lacking don't drop in 5-4, so it's pretty pointless aside from A node grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274032
I like her boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273940
That's why I never put any money into this game, not even to unlock the other two dock slots (deck sluts?) despite the fact that doing so would increase my ability to play the game more often. I know eventually I will get bored with and quit the game, leaving my girls to rust away into digital dust as part of some mothball fleet, waiting endlessly for their ttk to reappear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274311
Considering the amount of time I've put into this game, no matter how bad the gameplay is, I don't consider the money I've spent to be lost even though I'm getting bored of it. The quality of the time spent playing is as abysmal as it gets but the quantity is so high that hardly matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274311
Any sort of game has the "danger" to become uninteresting over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274337
Multiplayer games often have a good chance of offering you something you haven't seen before every once in a while.

Kancolle is the same shit every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274342
Multiplayer games also have a good chance to become obsolete when a sequel gets released.

[Anonymous No.]

The best part about Kantai Collection had nothing to with the game and nothing to do with the characters.

It got me into World War II history, finally. The interest had been simmering for a few years ever since World of Tanks, but this somehow turned it up real good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274349
I am into World War II history which is why I got into the game in the first place. Though I was more focused on WWII land and armored warfare, ETO, and Allied planes before but after I got into Kantai Collection, I started reading up more about the IJN, their tech, and PTO in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274349
Back when I was first getting into Kantai Collection I decided I'd better learn my history (just like you've got to read up on your Japanese mythology for the Touhou) and read a dozen or so books on early 20th century Japan.

Well, that sudden deep interest only lasted a month or two, but I know more about Showa Japan now than I ever cared to before.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know how to get Logbook up and running with the pac generator? The Github "FAQ" is useless and even left out some crucial instructions needed earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274384
At least put an effort to read the original sanaechan page or the archive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274367
Same here, the most I knew about the PTO was Bataan and Japan got nuked. All of my interest was in ETO before. Although my interest in mecha musume brought me to this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274392
I only had the gist of what the IJN was like, like how the Zero was fragile and flammable, how every jap plane out there was a "Zero" etc. I was biased on them until I started reading more about the IJN and realized they still had some redeeming qualities after all, although not enough to prevent the Allies from pushing them back post-Midway and especially, post-Guadalcanal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274349

The good: I was an eurofag who only knew deeply about WWII history on Europe so this game actually made me interested in the pacific war

The bad: Now I fail to see japanese ships not as kancolle girls

The ugly: It got me interested in the USN. Ach, THE HORROR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274403
>until I started reading more about the IJN and realized they still had some redeeming qualities after all
If you read what a lot of sailors and captains had to say about the IJN there's a really strong consensus that while it looked good, it was kind of fucked from top to bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274406
What I meant was how would they fare against their Allied counterparts. I do know they have a horrible training system and doctrine though like how their fucked up version of the Bushido code. They were so goddamn inflexible it's a wonder why they never learned from the heaps of defeats the Allies inflicted upon them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274406

Ultranationalism and utter ignorance. Add that they became foolishly prideful after the early succeses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274408
There's an amazing mix of brilliance and stupidity that fills a lot of Japan's military history. I think the Japanese system was really just set up so everything would end up like that.

It does just end up making you think "what a waste" a lot of the time. Actually, when I'm reading the history of the IJN it's pretty much what I'm thinking nonstop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274415
The whole issue when it comes to carrier and the IJN is the no.1 thing that comes to my mind. The second would be the utter stupidity in how Japan use their excellent and damn innovative subs who were equipped with the best damn torpedoes in the whole war. The third thing is how that Japan totally fucked up reconnaissance and ASW.

That's not factoring in the clusterfuck that was the internal politics of the Japanese diet at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK YOU RNG

2nd Yamato, no Musashi

I hope the person responsible for the crafting RNG is tortured to death very slowly

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274404
Don't read about Kumano's history then. She was basically a hentai protagonist that got raped every time she left the house. It was so bad a USN captain called her the most pitiable ship of the war.

[Anonymous No.]

He looks so smug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274548
3 hotels, 0 Bismarcks or Musashis here

Just take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274556
GuP sells tank models, KanColle sells ship models - so, what comes next to sell plane models again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274559
I'm not the type that takes it easy. I go out and beat someone up when shit like this happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274564
SW S3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274556
If I'm a buyer, I don't want to buy plastic model kit with cute girls on the cover. I still think it's weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274564
A second Top Gun movie.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the composition for 2-5 yasen route again? I want to change composition from 4BB 2CV for a change of pace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274589
3DD1CL, or 2 ships with drums.
No BB/CV/CVL/SS allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274589
6CA(V)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274549

hell her bow was blown off by the USS Johnston via a lucky torpedo hit and the torpedoes the USA had during WW II were notorious for being duds or malfunctioning

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274641
To be fair, the bugs were resolved once they knew what was wrong with their torps and they started scoring by the middle until the end of the war.

[Anonymous No.]

-19 hrs to Smile removal.

She'll never be the same, she'll never be able to play happily again.

She'll gain FP and shiny planes, but she'll lose her soul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274668
>She'll gain FP
Surely, but I doubt FP will be her strong point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274681
Soulless and no noticeable stats gain ?
Oh joy Oh joy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274681
Look at Hiryuu Kai-2s stats. It will probably end up being close to those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274685
Yes, but there will be a few points of difference that will be put somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274605
What do the drums do? Other than 5-4, I don't remember there being any use for them in sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

So why are people focusing on CVs for midway? Why not BBs or CAs or CL or even DDs? Is it just assumed that CVs will play a bigger role than the other ships or did they specifically say that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274704
Read up more about Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274712
The game isn't 100% historically accurate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274713
Doesn't make them totally ignore the history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274713
That's why we were made bomb Henderson chan with DD throwing surface radar at her ?

[Anonymous No.]

What's the difference between accuracy and view range? I can't seem to find it in the wiki or am I just not looking hard enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274790
Think a bit about what those 2 terms mean, you'll get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274790
What's the difference between AA and CV Fighter Power

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274790
What's the difference between Evasion and Armor

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274790
What's the difference between warship and battleship?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274790
What's the difference between radar and sonar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274659
> the bugs were resolved
They weren't, they just dropped dud rate from 70% to 25%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274685
Hiryuu is the Yuudachi of carriers. She should be in a league of her own. But the good news is that Souryuu's sprite doesn't look like she's attacking you, so her smile might stay.

>>12274704
They've been calling this the carrier event since December.

[Anonymous No.]

Are double attack/cut in chance 100% if you have a plane, have air superiority and have the proper equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274841
Warships are used the entire war. Battleships are one time use ships built to show how vast your resources are and that you can throw them away after use.

I'm pretty confident in this answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274978
No. With very few exceptions, nothing in the game is 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

So why are they called destroyers when they're hardly capable of destroying anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274996
Got a better name, nerd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274999
Destroyed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274982
Is the only way to increase the chance is to have more LoS? I really don't understand the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274996
In russian they are called fleet torpedo boat. And they are very capable of destroying everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274999
Where I come from, we call them "chasers", which seems to more actively describe their usual job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12274996
(Torpedo boat) Destroyer. They were developed to fight and destroy torpedo boats, protecting large ships. And torpedo boats are quite capable of sinking anything. Never underestimate torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275010
What's the most impressive damage done by a single Japanese destroyer during WWII? Did any of them do cool stuff like Iku (one-shotting a CV and DD and critting a BB to yellow in her opening torpedo salvo, and then escaping unscathed from a full destroyer fleet equipped with depth charges)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275021
Poi is the first one that comes to mind if we stick to the IJN.

[Anonymous No.]

They keep saying it's going to be a CV event, like the "scouting" event of spring

I bet my soryuu's smile that it's still going to be 4BB bruteforcing.with CVs as dumb airsupport

Time to dust off nyagato again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275021
Read about Tenacious Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275065
I'm sure you'll want to bring 4 BBs because it is optimal to fight the enemies, but they will force you to make fleets consisting of 2 SS, 2 CV, 1 DD, 1 CAV, or you will be sent away from the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275065
>"scouting" event
Scout planes were absolutely crucial. When they first brought up Midway it was in response to people complaining about carriers having no role in Ironbottom.

[Anonymous No.]

Souryuu kai2

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275086
Is this what they call a jumbo jet cruiser?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275065
You mean you don't keep her well-oiled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275000
You are implying that Arleigh Burkes are not capable of destroying PT boats, which is laughably ignorant of you.

News flash: all torpedo boat destroyers since the turn of the 20th century have been perfectly capable of destroying torpedo boats, hence the shortened form for their name being "destroyer."

[Anonymous No.]

http://kanae.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gameurawaza/1404984905/

Lol those guys, spending 5k~9k yen in the game, botting 24*7 and get banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275119
How was this implying anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275123
When you say "botting", what type of botting are they using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275126
It implies that you didn't google it and needed to be spoonfed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275133
Is that so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275131
3rd party app that sends api calls to the server, totally automate sorties, scrapping, equipment as well as expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275136
That sounds awesome.
Anyone who's merely a scripter getting banned?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275137
Scripting since February and still going strong. 350k steel and no Musashi though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275137
It's not scripting/macros that are getting banned. The api calls are now encrypted, and they refresh the handshake periodically, and it's through failing this process that botters are getting banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275140
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's really no way for them to discern between a smart scripter and an overly zealous TTK, right?

Unlike that botting nonsense, a smart script wouldn't leave any traces except a patterned behavior that the devs could identify as suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275148
You are injecting or modifying packets when you script at that. It makes little sense to go after behavioral patterns for the devs as the game's not a competitive multiplayer title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275157
You are not injecting or modifying packets. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275157
>>12275158
Just to be clear, I was referring to macro-type scripting: automating mouse clicks, stuff like that. No playing around with packets.

No one's ever been banned for that type of cheating as far as I know. The devs could theoretically implement some measures that could counteract it, but I think they're more concerned about the botters at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275166
My script monitors the expedition timer from logbook directly so it has literally zero down time, If they do ban macro users I'd be the first one who'd take the hammer to the face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275175
I'd think that the devs wouldn't be that aggressive with timing. People that script 2-3 runs might come under the radar if the devs come after the macros.

[Anonymous No.]

Why Shiratsuyus have the most impressive combat record?

[Anonymous No.]

Did they give out last months ranking rewards yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275321
Because they are the cutest girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275325
Probably tomorrow evening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275328
Let's see...
Hatsuharu, Ayanami, Arare, Satsuki, Fumitsuki, Yukikaze, Shimakaze, Ise, Hyuuga, Haruna, Jun'yō and Chōkai, Jintsu.

Ayanami is equal to Yūdachi in heroics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275351
>>12275351
I don't understand. Are you listing them by combat record, or cuteness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275351
>>12275378
combat record.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you ready for Fatalpulse to save us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275389
Then a good third of ships you listed have unimpressive record.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275391

I wat to believe I'm but I know that my body won't be ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275391
Looks powerful. She's going to kill us all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275394
CV-6 > all of them combined. Just sayin'

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275402
>CV-6

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275402
Then Hibiki is the queen of all warships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12273989
I wish to be the little admiral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275412
>Hibiki
>not Yukikaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275489
Why is she holding a PRC flag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275490
The chinamen stole her and raped her into loyalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275493
But why is she holding a PRC flag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275493
But she was given to the ROC, not Communist China. In fact, she fought against the PLAN during the Taiwan Straight conflicts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275503
Taiwan. China. They're all the same right?
All you asians look the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275490
>>12275493
I will make a Taigei version of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275510

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275509
US, Mexico. They're all the same right?
All you hues look the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275509
Please don't fall for the PRC's lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275510
>>12275514
Joke's on you, I already caught my whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275514
>biting the bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275510
I honestly don't see where the bait is. Have I been caught?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275515
Nowadays, the US is practically just an extra Mexican state.

I miss the days of white purity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275509
North Korea, South Korea. They're both Korea right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275509
Taiwan was righteous Nippon clay. Original clay do not steal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275521
more like an extra african state, sadly

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275537
Man, Japan had their hands all over the fucking place back in the day. Fucking colonized half of Asia, had puppet states set up in a half of the rest.

Look at them now. I bet the older folks are just itching for the return of the glorious Empire. A shame all the young people just want to watch anime and hug their waifu pillows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275543
how do you rebuild an empire where half of the region has fucking nukes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275537

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275546
I'm not arguing that they can or should, I'm just saying there's got to be a lot of people pining for the older days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275543

Implying the old folks hadn't woke up from all the bullshit the feudal-capitalist lords of early Showa feed to then.

And no, I'm not greentexting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275543
Friendly reminder that Kancolle is a propaganda machine secretly backed by JMSDF to support their right-wing propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275546
In Abe we trust?
No right winger in Japan's stupid enough to let the army call the shots like they did in the turn of the 20th century. All that Japan could really do is to get some tooth into their navy, and fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275554
Why can't all propaganda be this cute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275554
Their propaganda is working. The ships are innocent! It's kuso TTKs and the RNG high command that are to blame. Even the Abyss is not to blame at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275554
as long as they keep aiming their stuff at china i'm all for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275551
Isn't most pining for the olden days done by the youth who've never experienced them and so doesn't realize how shit they really were?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275554

it's Shinzo Abe. No surprise Kancolle popped Up after the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands tension started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275566
Um... That's not how pining works.

>pine: miss and long for the return of
Hard to miss something if you've never experienced it.

For instance, a virgin can't "pine" for sex, they simply desire it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275568
And shortly after the game was released, JMSDF Izumo popped up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275566
Pretty much. It's kind of hilarious that you have Nips that ended up speaking to Taiwanese weebs to find out about Taisho-Showa era Japan.

>>12275568
JMSDF has given winks and nudges about Kancolle. Here's the Miyagi area support HQ's twitter.
https://twitter.com/miyagipco/status/484977260462473216

"Myoukou Kai3 ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!!

[Anonymous No.]

Would you support a renewed japanese navy? I'd go all for it. Anything that can hold the chinese on their feet is very welcomed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275573
Izumo Maru/Hiyou -> Izumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275588

>purity long skirt gone.

No just no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275586
I think it's necessary. China and South Korea are aligning together out of regional naval interests for the time being at that.

Hopefully we'll see Japan-Taiwan being aligned so that they would serve to counter China over east China sea. That would help much of SEA imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275593
I thought China was best buddies with North Korea. Won't they piss them off by aligning with South Korea?

Also, I thought South Korea's got America behind it's back. America does all their east Asian shit through them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275593
SKO will never do anything against Japan except shit-talking them because they aren't suicidal.

And China is a lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275586
Their tax base is withering already, it doesn't seem like a good idea to be diverting money building a fleet that isn't likely to stop the Chinese anyway. There's also the danger that this will drive South Korea away from the US and Japan. However they may bicker and squabble, South Korea and Japan are the US' closest military allies in the East. It's a good idea in principle but not worth the fallout.

>>12275593
>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/world/asia/south-korea-begins-naval-drills-with-the-us.html?_r=0
dude South Korea isn't about to align with China (and, by extension, North Korea) anytime soon. Taiwan is too vulnerable to (and ware of its vulnerability to) China to possibly pull anything of the sort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275597
There's only so much that US could do. South korea wants the Dokdo, and Diaoyu/senkaku would mirror that situation in a way, which is partly why SK and China have gotten warmer to each other as of late.

Abe actually warmed up to NK in order to counter the recent developments. This has been a bit of a surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275597
>China was best buddies with North Korea

Operative word is "was"
China is currently embargoing fuel, and it's apparently limiting NK military drills. Ironically, it might have more effect than any western sanction had before

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275601

A surge on military production was what brought interwar germany and US out of their economic crisis. And the US needs an strong military ally in a region filed with sissy allies like the Koreans and the Taiwanese. It'd be on USA interest to support diplomatically and finnancially an strong Japanese navy and army to deter China from further territorial reclamations in the region.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275606
Chinese is the most important exporter/importer for North Korea at that. Frankly, Xi Jinping is getting a message across to Kim about not biting the hand that feeds you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275606
>China is currently embargoing fuel, and it's apparently limiting NK military drills.
And North Korea is complying, which is a testament to who is the master and who is the servant in this relationship. China and North Korea are, and will always be, "allies" as long as the North Korean government is as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275611
Taiwan can't really do any meaningful buildup at that, no thanks to PRC and the split allegiance on the island. Japan has to go at it by itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275611
>A surge on military production was what brought interwar germany and US out of their economic crisis.
No, it didn't. German Economic recovery was via public works under Schacht, just like the New Deal. The same man who rescued the German economy was afterwards fired by Hitler because he proposed a REDUCTION in military spending. The economic "success" of Nazi Germany after 1936 came from Nazi Germany looting countries it successively consolidated.
>And the US needs an strong military ally in a region filed with sissy allies like the Koreans and the Taiwanese
South Korea has contributed more troops in every major war since the Korean War to US forces than Japan.
>It'd be on USA interest to support diplomatically and finnancially an strong Japanese navy and army
And I suppose congress will just love to shell out a few billion more for Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I've got the best solution for all your asian political problems.

Just let the US invade and do some regime changing. We've got a great track record for stabilizing regions.

Don't you want a little FREEDOM in your rice bowls, asian people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
>invade
It will be political takeover, and it's already happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
But Japan is already US' bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
They'll do it right after they finish invading Ukraine/Russia. I mean its actually hot there so it will be easier for Congress to write up the declaration of war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
please start with china, american friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
Sarcasm aside, the world happily forgets the regions the US DID stabilize and vindictively remembers the ones it didn't. South Korea, Japan, the Phillippines, Granada, Colombia, Panama, Bosnia, Haiti, nevermind nearly all of western Europe, all of them have been stabilized by US intervention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275634
Will do. We'll bring hamburgers for everyone so you don't have to eat any more cats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275623

>German Economic recovery was via public works under Schacht, just like the New Deal

It was part not all of it. Germany was with almoost 0% unemployment as early as 1936 so the war had nothing to do with the german economic recovery

>South Korea has contributed more troops in every major war since the Korean War to US forces than Japan.

Of course, because SK has the right to sustain an army, contrary to the japanese constitution (tailor made by the Americans) who makes the japanese people renounce to war. This constitution was made when Chiang Kai-Shek was still the dictator in China so the Americans judged they didn't need any other strong country on the region. Then, Mao happened and suddenly Japan was allowed to have an oversized police corps called the JSDF.

>And I suppose congress will just love to shell out a few billion more for Japan?

Ask then when the Chinese reclamations go beyond a few islands. The chinese are becoming bolder and bolder every year and their military budget grows exponentially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275644
I'll remind the world then.

1946: GREECE. Restore monarch after overthrow of Metaxas government. Successful.

1946-1955: WEST GERMANY. Average of $6 million annually to support former Nazi intelligence network of General Reinhard Gehlen. Successful.

1948-1968: ITALY. Average of $30 million annually in payments to political and labor leaders to supportanti- Communist candidates in Italian elections. Successful.

1949: GREECE. Military assistance to anti-Communist forces in Greek civil war. Successful.

1949-1953: UKRAINE. Organize and support a Ukrainian resistance movement. Unsuccessful.

1949-1961: BURMA. Support 12,000 Nationalist China troops in Burma under General Li Mi as an incursion force into People's Republic of China. Unsuccessful.

1950-1952: POLAND. Financial and military assistance for Polish Freedom and Independence Movement. Unsuccessful.

1950: ALBANIA. Overthrow government of Enver Hoxha. Unsuccessful.

1951-1954: CHINA. Airdrop guerilla teams into People's Republic of China. Unsuccessful.

1953: IRAN. Overthrow Mossadegh government and install Shah Zahedi. Cost: $10 million. Successful.

1953: PHILLIPINES. Assassination and propaganda campaign to overcome Huk resistance and install government of Ramon Magsaysay. Successful.

1953: COSTA RICA. Overthrow government of Jose Figueres. Unsuccessful.

1954: SOUTH VIETNAM. Install government of Ngo Dinh Diem. Successful.

[Anonymous No.]

G-Guys, can't we talk about cute ships instead? I'm worried about the f-future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275669
1954-1957: NORTH VIETNAM. CIA officer Edward Lansdale spends four years trying to overthrow the communist government of North Vietnam. Unsuccessful. During this period he was active in the training of the Vietnamese National Army (VNA), organizing the Caodaist militias under Trình Minh Th? in an attempt to bolster the VNA, a propaganda campaign encouraging Vietnam's Catholics to move to the south as part of Operation Passage to Freedom, and spreading claims that North Vietnamese agents were making attacks in South Vietnam.

1954: WEST GERMANY. Arrange abduction and discreditation of West German intelligence chief Otto John, and replace with Reinhard Gehlen. Successful.

1954: GUATEMALA. Overthrow government of Jacobo Arbenz Guzman and replace with Carlos Castillo Armas. Successful.

1955: CHINA. Assassinate Zhou Enlai en route to Bandung Conference. Unsuccessful.

1956: HUNGARY. Financial and military assistance to organize and support a Hungarian resistance movement, and broad propaganda campaign to encourage it. Unsuccessful.

1956: CUBA. Establish anti-Communist police force, Buro de Represion Actividades Communistas (BRAC) under Batista regime. Successful.

1956: EGYPT. Overthrow Nasser government. Unsuccessful.

1956: SYRIA. Overthrow Ghazzi government. Aborted by Israeli invasion of Egypt.

1956-1957: JORDAN. Average of $750,000 annually in personal payments to King Hussein. According to United States government, payments ceased when disclosed in 1976.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275655
>It was part not all of it. Germany was with almoost 0% unemployment as early as 1936 so the war had nothing to do with the german economic recovery
That's the point. War production had nothing whatsoever to do with Germany's recovery, it was Schacht's "New Plan" and infrastructure development.

>Of course, because SK has the right to sustain an army,
And Japan has been so stringent in following those rules has it? If Japan can contribute warships to anti-piracy operations in the gulf of Aden it certainly could contribute to Vietnam and Afghanistan.

>Ask then when the Chinese reclamations go beyond a few islands.
Without the US' help a Japanese navy would just be a good way to lose several thousand lives to a few Chinese missiles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275671
1957: LEBANON. Financial assistance for the election of pro-American candidates to Lebanese Parliament. Successful.

1958: INDONESIA. Financial and military assistance, including B-26 bombers, for rebel forces attempting to overthrow Sukarno government. Unsuccessful.

1958-1961: TIBET. Infiltrate Tibetan guerrillas trained in United States to fight Chinese Communists. Unsuccessful.

1959: CAMBODIA. Assassinate Prince Norodum Shianouk. Unsuccessful.

1960: GUATEMALA. Military assistance, including the use of B-26 bombers for government of Miguel Ydigoras Fuentes to defeat rebel forces. Successful.

1960: ANGOLA. Financial and military assistance to rebel forces of Holden Roberto. Inconclusive.

1960: LAOS. Military assistance, including 400 United States Special Forces troops, to deny the Plain of Jars bad Mekong Basin to Pathet Lao. Inconclusive.

1961-1965: LAOS. Average of $300 million annually to recruit and maintain L'Armee Clandestine of 35,000 Hmong and Meo tribesmen and 17,000 Thai mercenaries in support of government of Phoumi Nosavan to resist Pathet Lao. Successful

1961-1963: CUBA. Assassinate Fidel Castro. Six attempts in this period. Unsuccessful.

1961: CUBA. Train and support invasion force of Cuban exiles to overthrow Castro government, and assist their invasion at the Bay of Pigs. Cost: $62 million. Unsuccessful.

1961: ECUADOR. Overthrow government of Hose Velasco Ibarra. Successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275655
China is all bark no bite. That's why they only play 'tense naval standoff' with SEA countries that have little to no influence with the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275675
1961: CONGO. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Patrice Lumumba. Successful.

1961: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Rafael Trujillo. Successful.

1961-1966: CUBA. Broad sabotage program, including terrorist attacks on coastal targets and bacteriological warfare, in effort to weaken Castro government. Unsuccessful.

1962: THAILAND. Brigade of 5,000 United States Marines to resist threat to Thai government from Pathet Lao. Successful.

1962-1964: BRITISH GUIANA. Organize labor strikes and riots to overthrow government of Cheddi Jagan. Successful.

1962-1964: BRAZIL. Organize campaign of labor strike and propaganda to overthrow government of Joao Goulart. Successful.

1963: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Overthrow government of Juan Bosch in military coup. Successful.

1963: SOUTH VIETNAM. Precipitate conditions leading to assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem. Successful.

1963: ECUADOR. Overthrow government of Carlos Julio Arosemena. Successful.

1963-1984: EL SALVADOR. Organize ORDEN and ANSESAL domestic intelligence networks under direction of General Jose Alberto Medrano and Colonel Nicolas Carranza, and provide intelligence support and training in surveillance, interrogation and assassination techniques. Successful.

1963-1973: IRAQ. Financial and military assistance for Freedom Party of Mulla Mustafa al Barzani in effort to establish independent Kurdistan. Unsuccessful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275680
STAHP.

[Anonymous No.]

What if... what if... Souryuu kai 2 has her hair down

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275681
But we have to remind the world anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275682
I masturbate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275682

At this point 'm more worried about the smile than anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275682
So long as she still has her tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275669
>>12275671

'Tis nothing new on politics and dipplomacy since the British had been doing stuff llike this since the XVIII century until they lost their empire after WWII.

What's really funny is how this guy>>12275644
confuses, maybe out of good will maybe out of complete ignorance, stabilizing parts of the globe with protecting murrican interests.

Last time I knew, murricans did everything they coould to destabilize Afghanistan when the soviets were there. Oh, the Irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275683
There has to be a more succinct way to do it.

Also, I think there's at most two people that might give a shit about those kinds of details. For everyone else, it's just annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275692

First time I heard knowledge and truth are annoying...

Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275669
>>12275671
>>12275675
Nice copypasta, but many of the nations involved here (Germany, Italy, Greece, Ukraine, Poland, the Phillipines, Costa Rica, Jordan, Guatemala, Angola, Laos, Ecuador, the Dominican Republic, Thailand, Brazil, El Salvador, Panama) are stable countries as a result (however directly or indirectly) of US involvement. And you have also managed to ignore massive US aid to nations not even mentioned--Austria, France, Belgium, Kenya.

Your post has succeeded to do nothing but to prove my point, that the world forgets the US' successes and vindictively remembers its failures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275694
I haven't even finished the list yet.

http://pastebin.com/8G1BRdBe

also
>Costa Rica, Jordan, Guatemala, Angola, Laos, Ecuador, the Dominican Republic, Thailand, El Salvador, Panama
are not stable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275690
>stabilizing parts of the globe with protecting murrican interests.
I did not say the US did not have its failures. But remind me, what is the problem with conflating the two when they coincide?

>Last time I knew, murricans did everything they coould to destabilize Afghanistan when the soviets were there.
>I have no idea what happened so I'll just assume I do
Instability within Afghanistan was rampant even prior to the Soviet intervention, and remained endemic both during the war and after it. The absence of the United State's actions would not have changed the inherent ethnic conflict already present within the region, and a government inherently destabilized from its conception.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275693
It's all about context and your audience.
Going around a party and lecturing on the history of US foreign policies is the very definition of annoying.

In the right academic setting or with the right audience, it would be fine, but this isn't it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275694

>>12275700
>I did not say the US did not have its failures. But remind me, what is the problem with conflating the two when they coincide?

What is stability if it perpetuates poverty and injustices? Most of those cases has been to support the stablishment and elite in said countries. Thanks to that, only recently the south and central american countries are starting to get out of the shithole they were during the last 100 years.

lots of good willed politicians and leaders were assasinated, couped or made dissappear denying any kind of developent in the region

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, a reminder: cute ship girls.

Take the pol to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.]

Q : What color was the wiki when first made ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275693
It's annoying to many groups of people. Just look at the Japanese far right for an example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275711
White? Do I win a prize?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275706

Yeah, you are right. But it still tickles my jimmies reading some first world guys, specially Americans, thinking they'e done more good than bad to the world.

Ok, they could have been worst, they could have been like nowadays China (THE HORROR).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275715
Wrong.
Orange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275711
>>12275719
Piss orange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275699
>Costa Rica
>one of the richest regions in central America, leading Central America in High-tech economic development

>Jordan
>One of the most liberal of the arab nations, a miltiary ally of hte United States and Israel, with one of the highest literacy rates in teh region

>Guatemala
>democratic nation that saw a peaceful transition of power in 2011 from democratic elections

>Angola
>one of the fastest growing economies in the world, recently concluding a civil war

>Ecuador--a democratic governent which has resolved tis disputes with Peru

>DR
>Second Largest economy in the caribbean and several democratic transitions of power

>El Salvador and Panama
>not stable

>Thailand
>politically divided, but no major military conflicts

You have no clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275719
>>12275723
I'm happy there are some left ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275723
>>12275726
I still remember, the earliest complain about the wiki is 'change that goddamn color'

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275705
>What is stability if it perpetuates poverty and injustices?
>Most of those cases has been to support the stablishment and elite in said countries.
As said, your argument completely ignores nations that have benefited (South Korea, Germany, etc.) which are currently nations both in good economic and democratic standing both in human rights records and in everyday government, while doing its best to showcase failures.

>Thanks to that, only recently the south and central american countries are starting to get out of the shithole they were during the last 100 years.
With American assistance in the modern era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275724

for the sake f the thread I'll just say, take a history book and read the history of those countries of the last 50 years, basically,the whole cold war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275731
For the sake of the thread I'll just say that you need to do so far more than I do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275729

>With American assistance in the modern era.

I'm through with this if you really think this is true.

[Anonymous No.]

So predictions for Souryuu.

Level for kai ni?
Smile or no smile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275736
You seem to have run out of logical arguments, so be my guest, be through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275738
88 with a smile

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275738

I really want heer smile to stay. There is no reason like Hiryuu's last "heroic" stand for her to suddenly become serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275738
75, smile but hair down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275726
>>12275728
This. I remember almost all the complains was to change that orange color. I also remember the wiki was created to prevent dumb questions from being repeated here over and over again. Wonder if the original creator/s are still tending over it considering how autistic the community there has become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275743
There's no way in hell it will be 88

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275726
You are not alone, old ttk.

>>12275724
Show me a nation that America has been successfully involved in that resulted in a nation as industrialized as India, and then I'll be impressed.

In general, America's own people don't even give a shit about what happens outside of America, so there's no motivation to popularly support any commitment outside of a few select nations with good reputations depicted by Hollywood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275759

I'll happily abide to a level 88 remodel if that garanties her smile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275763
I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275682
No twintails = no ring

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275760
>Show me a nation that America has been successfully involved in that resulted in a nation as industrialized as India, and then I'll be impressed.
Is that even hard? If you mean sheer GDP, Germany, Japan, France.

But that's because India is huge. If you mean GDP per capita....
Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, France, Taiwan, Kuwait, Japan, Israel, South Korea, Italy, Greece, Panama, Costa Rica, Serbia, Colombia, Ecuador, Thailand, Kosovo, >Iraq, Jordan, Philippines,

If you mean HDI:
By Human Development Index? Germany, Japan, South Korea, Israel, Belgium, Austria, France, Kuwait, Panama, Costa Rica, Italy, Greece, >Libya, Grenada, Bosnia, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Jordan, Thailand, Philippines, Guatemala, >Iraq

Wasn't hard to impress you, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275738
77, still smiling, hair up, but I'd love it if she put it down. She gets a ring either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275776
You're right, I didn't make myself specific enough.

Show me a country as industrialized as India that was NOT industrialized back in the 19th century. Can America turn piles of agraian shitholes into world-leading powerhouses like the British Empire did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275726
It's more comfortable to just lurk the thread.
I only reply if the thread reached bump limit.

>>12275738
77, with smile.
Stats should be inferior than Hiryuu Kai2 but still an improvement.

>>12275751
CDRW, TheLenrir still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275781
agrarian*

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275776
>>12275781

devolved into a Murrican Vs Britbong thread. This surely has become a shithole

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275781
Just look at that list again.
Taiwan (not annexed and industrialized until the early 20th century), South Korea (not annexed or developed until 1907), Panama, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador, Thailiand, Philippines, the Dominican Republic,

I'll be charitable and exclude Jordan, Kuwait, and Israel, since they were part of the British/French Mandate, and Greece + Italy, since they made an attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, please bring this discussion to /int/ or /pol/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275798

seconded, this is no place to discuss this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275726
>>12275728
>>12275751
>>12275782

I was on and off the wiki just like long enough to help shape a few of the important reference pages into the fucking awful mess that they are today.

It's annoying that everyone who edits has to inject their own special little butterfly ideas to fit their own spergy organization in their heads. If everyone realized that concise, universal standards made looking things up for reference between users easier, we'd have had a lot fewer major overhauls in the wiki's lifetime.

also the unwashed masses of children and godless pidgin-english plebs didn't help, but that has nothing to do with the wiki itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275807
On top of all the strikethrough "jokes" and references, the horrible translations, bad info, blogging, and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else's KCV just eat the dirt just now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275816
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275816
Describe "eat the dirt"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275807
>>12275811
The bad ones I remember was placing that himeuta page on the updates page, someone arguing something about "it should be flares, not starshells" translation, and those comments that don't even make sense with regards to the update.
And it reminds me that there are still people wishing for more CLTs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275175
Ok, I have no idea how use python and am literally retarded as google does not help. I downloaded and installed all the files but now what? I can't even figure out how to change directories in python's cmd window and when I try to use window's default cmd window it says run is not a defined function (or python is not a defined function). What do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275824
You learn how to use Python.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm an idiot. Line abreast is the best anti-sub formation but very bad for torpedoes. Aren't torpedoes used against subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275839

Are you seriously asking that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275839
Not in this game they aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275839
No? Well, yes, technically one on hachi, I think, but usually no

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275850
Nevermind, it was U-864

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275793
Still way better than /a/ kancolle threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275869
What do they even talk about? There's no anime yet, so I'm going to guess they discuss the manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275875
The girls of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275875
Homosexuality. A lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275875
>so I'm going to guess they discuss the manga
Ahahahaha. No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275794
Excellent. Now let me take you to where I'm going with this, the investment of American resources in changing foreign nations.

Where is the American Empire's India? The British, for all their faults, for all their mistakes, earnestly invested in their colonies. Not just the infrastructure, but even the people and their society. Sure, some of that was a heavy-handed attempt to make them more civilised, which meant more British, but the core idea was that investing in the colony gave back to the home country. An impoverished colony rebels. A prosperous colony grows and gives back.

It's a partnership. An unequal partnership, but one of cooperation.

Where is America's India? Back when imperialism was still in vogue, America didn't really want colonies, tended to pick them up by accident after they picked a fight with someone, and mostly was frustrated by their unwillingness to magically become a second California.

And then post-WWII, it was always about playing the game of "fighting the spread of Communism". Both sides of the Cold War continued to ramp up the tensions and prop up local dictators when they couldn't get the populace to align their way. There's always this bad tendency to start this shit and then walk out after we've leveled the place, using excuses about not wanting to be Empire builders for leaving the mess to the locals to clean up.

I feel like if you're going to knock down the existing power-structure, you have a responsibility to replace it with something suitable. Vietnam is a glaring example of what a terrible mistake this sort of halfhearted interventionism is, but it seems neither the public nor the politicians by and large have learned the appropriate lessons from it. It might have served some moral good to have stayed in Afghanistan as long as they did, but it's disappointing that they didn't have the wherewithal to stay in Iraq until they cleaned up their own mess, admitted the faults of a rushed job, and fixed them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275831
fuck it
How does I do this shit
http://pastebin.com/Mjte5ZtJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275914
Do you really want to lose your girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275916
I don't have anything super rare. I'm willing to take the risk

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275875
I went there once. They have someone shitposting 24/7 about how male admirals are disgusting and that all ships are actually lesbian for female admirals. I asked them about it and apparently it's been going on since October or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275920
Fuck off back to the /a/ threads, shitposter. Everyone knows that's a reverse troll.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I increase double atk/cut in chance? My fucking CVs keep stealing MVP from Hiei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275905
>The British, for all their faults, for all their mistakes, earnestly invested in their colonies.
And the US invested in Britain, Germany, France, Italy.

>It's a partnership. An unequal partnership, but one of cooperation.
And the USA is different. Our partnership was and is equal. When France asks we pack our bases, we do. When South Korea asks we stay, we stay.

>Where is America's India?
The Philippines. We occupied it far before Communism arose, so you can make no excuses there. We helped them craft their national language, build up democratic traditions. We limited the amount of land that could be sold to Americans to prevent the colonial plantations that arose, as in India. And when it came time to go we parted amicably, not in a rush of evacuations ending in bloodshed, as the British did in Palestine and India.

>I feel like if you're going to knock down the existing power-structure, you have a responsibility to replace it with something suitable
And we did. In Germany, Japan, the Phillippines, we fostered a democratic government, and in South Korea and Taiwan we eased its transition into democratic government.

>Vietnam is a glaring example of what a terrible mistake this sort of halfhearted interventionism is.
Unfortunately, we have much to learn, not just from Vietnam, but from all of Great Britain's failures as well--India and Pakistan, still at each other's throats; Palestine and Israel, even worse; Sudan and South Africa, where the indigenous were left to rot--Afghanistan, where Britain fled like so many after it--or Ireland, leaving a legacy of oppression. The US and UK must all learn from their failures.

>It might have served some moral good to have stayed in Afghanistan as long as they did, but it's disappointing that they didn't have the wherewithal to stay in Iraq until they cleaned up their own mess, admitted the faults of a rushed job, and fixed them.
I agree with this completely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275920
wow. That's mostly how I think but you don't see me talking about it on /jp/ despite being in these threads since November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275922
If you know so much about /a/'s threads, why don't you stick to them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275928
I left them because of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275922
>>12275928
People can browse both you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275923
Reduce the amount of CVs. The problem with carriers is that they can hit multiple opponents in the opening phase, which increases the odds of them getting MVP by racking up damage. You're better off using CLTs, since they can only hit one target at most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275794

cont. from >>12275905
Basically, your zomg truth and knowledge from http://pastebin.com/8G1BRdBe does not illustrate how well and good America has actually done for the world; rather it illustrates more of how far America's money and stealth bombers have reached.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275914
>processwatch.py
It's not needed, sikuli is pretty stable on windows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275943
>your zomg truth and knowledge from http://pastebin.com/8G1BRdBe
But m8, I didn't post that.
>does not illustrate how well and good America has actually done for the world
That's what I'm arguing, that that list has attempts to hide as much of what good America has actually done for the world, but only its failures.
>rather it illustrates more of how far America's money and stealth bombers have reached.
But by that logic, any look at any colonial empire, British, French or Belgian, only illustrates more of how far money and muskets have reached.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275944
I have no idea what that does. My friend who knows a bit about python was helping me. So what do I actually enter once I have my home base up and python's cmd window open?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275950
NO MOR
STAHP IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275958
calm down m8 I've said my piece.

That said, what's the actual drop rate on Maikaze? I've gotten like four Souryuu on 3-3 but still nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275962
>actual drop rate
Like anyone has specific rates for this spin the RNG roulette game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275962
Pretty good in E-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275966
>>12275969
Fuck, I want my dancing wind. Hopefully Hatsukaze will be on the drop list next event

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275925
>And the US invested in Britain, Germany, France, Italy.
These were already developed countries with a skilled workforce which just needed stimulus to rebuild from WW2, this does not correlate with building the infrastructure of a literal shithole. Besides, they did it for political favors rather than any love of their empire.

>And the USA is different
Tell that to Cuba

>The Philippines
Occupied by Spain for much longer.

>British did in Palestine and India
That was the fault of the Indians and Pakies alone, While the British could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.

>That's what I'm arguing, that that list has attempts to hide as much of what good America has actually done for the world, but only its failures
That list only lists the countries the USA has intervened in, for better or worse. It just so happens America failed more than it succeeded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275952
Install Sikuli
Download the script
Customize the myScriptPath and ensei_id_fleet_map variable in kancolle_auto.py
Open logbook, kancolle, sikuli and run the script

Spoiler since it's not relevant to the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275974
Take it to /pol/. No one gives a shit here.
This thread is about cute ship girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275977
Someone obviously does. I missed the rest of the thread but now I can contribute to the debate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275975

can this be used with Kancolle viewer or do I need to setup logbook?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275962
Zero. She doesn't exist. I could run 3-3 until the end of the universe and never get one. Hopefully she'll be somewhere convenient in AL/MI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275981
Take the debate elsewhere. It's not related to this thread or this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275974
>These were already developed countries with a skilled workforce
That were also completely ruined infrastructure-wise in the latter case.
>Besides, they did it for political favors rather than any love of their empire.
Are you implying any of the Indians and Kenyans did it out of love for their empire?

>Tell that to Cuba
You are aware Cuba was given its independence in 1902, right? That parting was also on amicable terms.

>Occupied by Spain for much longer.
And all of the changes ennumerated above happened under American rule, within a much shorter period of time, while Britain, with its glorious centuries of empire, left behind an Indian Penninsula rife with conflict and somehow pronounces itself the morally better man.

>That was the fault of the Indians and Pakies alone, While the British could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
Yes, Vietnam was the fault of the French and Vietnamese alone, and Iraq was the fault of the shiites and sunnis alone, right? Your double standards never cease to impress.

>That list only lists the countries the USA has intervened in, for better or worse
It leaves much out/
>It just so happens America failed more than it succeeded.
If I posted a list of only the failures of the British Empire and claimed the same thing you would be equally incensed. I have already enumerated many places that the list chooses to selectively ignore, yet you seem to persist under the illusion that it is a comprehensive list

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275982
If you understand what you are doing, sure. Besides, the original script rely on in-built timer so no third-party client was needed.

Yes, you need to use logbook for certain version of the script.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276002

So, I just downloaded this http://pastebin.com/Mjte5ZtJ as Mjte5ZtJ.txt, installed sikuli and I'm in my home port using KCV.

What should I do now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275994
Dude, I'm not him, I just got here, I don't care about the British

>That were also completely ruined infrastructure-wise in the latter case.
However, there again was not only an existing infrastructure, but also engineers, and architects residing in those countries already. Compared with building something from scratch, having a base to work on is much easier than nothing.

>You are aware Cuba was given its independence in 1902, right? That parting was also on amicable terms
This "parting" also included that Cuba essentially be a client state and gave the right to the US to intervene militarily in Cuba.

>Yes, Vietnam was the fault of the French and Vietnamese alone, and Iraq was the fault of the shiites and sunnis alone, right?
Both of these happened after a particularly major event altered the political landscape. In the case of the British, they pulled out, and the Indians and Pakies went at it, while Vietnam was the death throes of an empire desperately clinging to its holdings, and Iraq had the only stabalizing element forcibly removed.

>

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276006
derp that's not the script. That's my log file from trying to figure out what the fuck to do in python.

I'm still trying to figure it out and i"m on the verge of saying fuck it all and quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276021
In the other anon's defense regarding India and Pakistan, it was kind of a dick move for some lawyer from Wales to attempt to draw a border based on where he thought the cultures were separated.

>>12276006
Stop using KCV. It's not needed for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276002
That being said, I got this:
[error] script [ kancolle_auto ] stopped with error in line 3
[error] ImportError ( No module named ensei )

Is that cause I tried to use KCV instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276028

is it this? https://github.com/amylase/kancolle-auto

If not, could you share it here?

I downloaded this and there is a pair of .py files inside kancole_auto.sikuli folder.

What should I do with then if I want to run 2/6/38?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276031
Edit myScriptPath variable in the script and enter the full path to the script folder. E.g: C:\\path\to\sikuli.sikuli

Which fork of the script do you use?
Using KCV or not doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

マルハチヨンマル。提督の皆さん、おはようございます！ 今日は金曜日！本日【AM 11:00】より「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンス＆アップデートを実施致します。お手数おかけして申し訳ありません、ご協力どうぞよろしくお願い致します。本日も頑張ってまいりましょう！

Update in an hour. Decide on those AFK expeditions now. Finish up your PVP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276045
My expeditions come back at 10:55 and I'm totally going to forget about it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to flip if 77 isn't enough for fat-dragon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276050
She's not fat, she's healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

Friendly reminder that today is a maintenance day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276038
>You could argue that the presence of poppy growers in India presented the same case for the initial development of British India, or that the presence of skilled Aztec builders made developing the Spanish Empire much easier, or the presence of Korean Bureacrats made the governance of Japanese korea easier. Given differences in time period that has little significance
So you proved my point.

>Whereas governments such as France did not even make any excuses and jumped straight in, as in the Suez crisis.
You seem to be under the impression that I am trying to defend the ludicrous actions of imperialist powers. The point of this is to show that the US, or any western government for that matter, does not care about the very principles that they espouse, and rather use it as a cassius beli to protect their interests, whether it be to exploit natural resources, control a major economic center, or gain a military ally to help put down a "belligerent" nation that often just wants its freedom. The Suez Crisis is actually a good example of this, as the US only intervened economically to save face and protect its interests in Hungary, while also potentially gaining political favors from Nasser.

>Then kindly do not fault the US for its failures and attempt to excuse others for the same transgressions.
I just used the example you gave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276042
>Herp. It wasn't in the script at all for some reason so I added it in. Now i'm getting [error] script [ kancolle_auto ] stopped with error in line 123
[error] FindFailed ( can not find senseki.png on the screen. )
[error] --- Traceback --- error source first line: module ( function ) statement 35: main ( go_bokou ) hover("senseki.png")
105: main ( init ) go_bokou()
[error] --- Traceback --- end --------------

Also what values do I set ensei_id_fleet_Map to? just the expedition number and compose my fleets accordingly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276069
It means that sikuli cannot find the admiral's page button.
Set the flash window to home port menu.
In case you were messing with the flash quality or window size, set it to High or AutoHigh and use the default kancolle resolution.

>Also what values do I set ensei_id_fleet_Map to? just the expedition number and compose my fleets accordingly?
Yes, for example 6: [4] means expedition 6 for your 4th fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

Headband? Plane?
It's over. Smile lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276097

Yeah I was messing around with the resolution earlier. now it's crashing every time it tries to go to equipment and throws this error:
[error] fleet_2.png looks like a file, but not on disk. Assume it's text.
[error] Region.find(text): text search is currently switched off
[error] script [ kancolle_auto ] stopped with error in line 123
[error] FindFailed ( Text search currently switched off )
[error] --- Traceback --- error source first line: module ( function ) statement 95: main ( hokyu ) click(fleet_name)
106: main ( init ) hokyu()
[error] --- Traceback --- end --------------
[/Spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276103
You could have prevented this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276067
>So you proved my point.
No, I pointed our your point was moot, since it could be adequately applied to every empire in the history of man.

>The point of this is to show that the US, or any western government for that matter, does not care about the very principles that they espouse, and rather use it as a cassius beli to protect their interests, whether it be to exploit natural resources, control a major economic center, or gain a military ally to help put down a "belligerent" nation that often just wants its freedom.
But this is abjectly incorrect, as proven in the Phillippines (in which the amount of land ownable by US citizens was explicitly limited), which you choose to selectively ignore.

>he Suez Crisis is actually a good example of this, as the US only intervened economically to save face and protect its interests in Hungary, while also potentially gaining political favors from Nasser.
I did not argue that all actions were pursued with good intent, I only argued that, in the case of the US, the effects on many nations were positive, rather than negative.

>I just used the example you gave.
Your use of it is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276103

No, please keep smiling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276103
Uhh, is it just me, but don't you think there's a bigger problem than she losing her smile? She can still be smiling as far as we know, but did I see no twintails anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276124
Hard to tell at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276105
Sikuli >> Preferences >> More option; Untick 'delete not used images'.
Then, re-extract your images from the zip file.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276130
Ah, yeah I just looked up 30 seconds later thanks a lot anon. So how do I stop the script aside from closing the cmd window?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the latest LSC report?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276133
Don't be lazy.

https://answers.launchpad.net/sikuli/+question/197403

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276140
Well thank you good sir. my googling skills are awful tonight for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276047
Friendly reminder, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276149
Yeah, I did it. Time for 6 hour sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276111
>No, I pointed our your point was moot, since it could be adequately applied to every empire in the history of man.
I argued that rebuilding the infrastructure of already developed nations (that was not entirely destroyed) with a skilled workforce is easier than developing a new network from scratch with imported labour. There is a very obvious difference in the difficulty of each, I'm sorry if you choose to selectively pull something out of your ass.

>But this is abjectly incorrect, as proven in the Phillippines (in which the amount of land ownable by US citizens was explicitly limited), which you choose to selectively ignore.
This is such a small detail it wasn't worth acknowledging. In the bid for peace, the US had to make some concessions least it continue fighting the insurgency. This ignores the other treaties that the US imposed on the Philippines which were not unlike that of Cuba.

>I did not argue that all actions were pursued with good intent, I only argued that, in the case of the US, the effects on many nations were positive, rather than negative.
But this is abjectly incorrect, as much of where the US intervened is now a third world shithole.

>Your use of it is irrelevant.
Elaborate, because most of your points are irreverent, yet you wield them like they are some indomitable trump card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276103
Maybe she's just binding her twintails with them. Her overall pose just doesn't look as tense as Hiryuu K2's, so I'm still optimistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276158
>I argued that rebuilding the infrastructure of already developed nations (that was not entirely destroyed) with a skilled workforce is easier than developing a new network from scratch with imported labour.
And I argued that, for the intents and purposes of the other colonial nations at the time of colonialization that the skilled workforce was already present. I'm sorry if you choose to selectively hide what isn't convenient to you.

>This is such a small detail it wasn't worth acknowledging. In the bid for peace, the US had to make some concessions least it continue fighting the insurgency.
Once again demonstrating your lack of knowledge. The last organized rebellion against the US ended in 1913, whereas the Hare Hawes-Cutting Act was passed in 1932. Moreover, it also stipulated that the treaty (and its imposition of tariffs) could be rejected by the Filipino Senate, and it was rejected as such without any resistance from the United States.

>But this is abjectly incorrect, as much of where the US intervened is now a third world shithole.
You must have been incapable of reading the long, long list of nations in which United States intervention has had a positive effect (only a few of which are >>12275776). Again you continue to ennumerate a list that selectively omits what is inconvenient and somehow assume it provides you some kind of moral authority.

>Elaborate, because most of your points are irreverent, yet you wield them like they are some indomitable trump card.
Bringing up the Suez Canal example was irrelevant, as my point was never to prove that the US consistently intervened for moral reasons (as you have strawmanned me), simply that in more cases than not the end results have been positive. Bringing up the Suez Canal (which was not an intervention in the first place, simply an unwillingness to support the French and British) neither cites an adequate example nor invalidates my point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276158
>Elaborate, because most of your points are irreverent, yet you wield them like they are some indomitable trump card.
I don't know what you two are arguing about, and I don't really care, but I just wanted to mention that when two people both feel that the other is just making irrelevant points, it's usually because they have different ideas about what they're actually arguing about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276158
>irreverent
I have nothing to do with your argument and didn't even pick a side on it, but that means he's being a dick to you, not that he is arguing about something that has nothing to do with the topic.

Is he?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276124
If she has short hair, I swear, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276198
See, that's what happens when you bully artists. They'll take your girls' smiles and twintails.

I bet Haruna will have a mohawk or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276198
Short hair is great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276158
>as much of where the US intervened is now a third world shithole.
Is America some kind of magic sparkle fairy that can magically bring about industrialization and a thriving service economy upon contact? The US has not made any third world shitholes where there weren't already third world shitholes. It's also built up several first-world nations (South Korea, Japan, all of Western Europe) from scratch. Blaming the US for coming to your third world shithole and not handholding you all the way into G20hood is incredibly juvenile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276198
What if, her twintails become a ponytail?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276103
Captain Egusa colored 99 dive bomber?
Very nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276186
>And I argued that, for the intents and purposes of the other colonial nations at the time of colonialization that the skilled workforce was already present. I'm sorry if you choose to selectively hide what isn't convenient to you.
But that's false. I'm not sure how else I can explain it to you, but Agrarian India != Developed Europe.

>Once again demonstrating your lack of knowledge. The last organized rebellion against the US ended in 1913, whereas the Hare Hawes-Cutting Act was passed in 1932. Moreover, it also stipulated that the treaty (and its imposition of tariffs) could be rejected by the Filipino Senate, and it was rejected as such without any resistance from the United States
If you were't such a dick you could have named that treaty. I assumed you were referring to the Philippine Organic Act, which stated that natural resources would be conserved for the Filipinos.

>Bringing up the Suez Canal example was irrelevant, as my point was never to prove that the US consistently intervened for moral reasons (as you have strawmanned me), simply that in more cases than not the end results have been positive. Bringing up the Suez Canal (which was not an intervention in the first place, simply an unwillingness to support the French and British) neither cites an adequate example nor invalidates my point.
I used your example of India
>India and Pakistan, still at each other's throats
And then you (let me repeat you), brought up the Suez, which I used to illustrate my point. Also,
>not an intervention in the first place, simply an unwillingness to support the French and British
does not describe the threats that the US had declared, which included pulling out major financial assets from Britain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276222
(con't)
>You must have been incapable of reading the long, long list of nations in which United States intervention has had a positive effect (only a few of which are >>12275776). Again you continue to ennumerate a list that selectively omits what is inconvenient and somehow assume it provides you some kind of moral authority.
Let's go down the list (in another post)
>>12276207
>Is America some kind of magic sparkle fairy that can magically bring about industrialization and a thriving service economy upon contact? The US has not made any third world shitholes where there weren't already third world shitholes. It's also built up several first-world nations (South Korea, Japan, all of Western Europe) from scratch. Blaming the US for coming to your third world shithole and not handholding you all the way into G20hood is incredibly juvenile.
I never implied that, rather most of where the US has intervened has regressed, like Chile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276222
>Agrarian India != Developed Europe.
When Agrarian India was colonized in the 16th century, it was not significantly below contemporary Europe in wealth and economic development or education.

>If you were't such a dick you could have named that treaty.
Whether I was a dick or not, I've made my point.

>And then you (let me repeat you), brought up the Suez, which I used to illustrate my point.
Again, your point remained irrelevant, as I already explained.
>does not describe the threats that the US had declared, which included pulling out major financial assets from Britain.
Threats do not constitute an intervention, even in your silly list.

>I never implied that, rather most of where the US has intervened has regressed, like Chile.
But this is incorrect. Most of where the US has intervened has either remained the same or advanced, like (>>12275776). And this still ignores nations that have advanced, simply not to the extent of India.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276222
>>12276228
>>12276246
Can you guys take this discussion to /pol/ or /int/? You're clogging up the wrong thread in the wrong board with stuff that isn't remotely related to Kancolle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276255
Just report them. They've been told multiple times to move and just keep going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276186
>>12275776
>Germany, Japan, France, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy
Already developed Imperial powers which only needed stimulus to rebuild.
>Kosovo, Serbia
You don't have to go to /int/ to know that former Yugo states are all shit, regardless of GDP. This does not hide the corruption or the still piss poor state of its people.
>Costa Rica
What intervention?
>Colombia, Ecuador
Literally survives on drugs
>Thailand, Philippines
Go to these places and tell me they are developed.
>Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait
Rich in natural resources, high GDP beforehand, regardless of intervention.
>Libya
Are you fucking kidding me?
At this point I realized that most of those nations haven't even had an intervention, and most are shitholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276228

>>12276207
>Is America some kind of magic sparkle fairy that can magically bring about industrialization and a thriving service economy upon contact?
I was actually the anon that did imply that. As my reason, I state a lack of commitment by various organizations within Washington to fully see to the humans needs of countries intervened in, all the way through to the successes of their own socioeconomic cultures. This apathy is driven by limited resources (of course), but also but the lack of domestic popular support for any such occupation in the first place. It's an offshoot of the isolationism the US fostered in itself since near the beginning of its creation--people don't give a shit about what happens outside of America, only that Americans are dying for it.

Meanwhile, certain empires have had slightly less ambiguous endgames, in the form of striving to achieve (almost equal) progress and prosperity in a Commonwealth of nations. A fanciful dream, of course, but still better than "get in, defend America's dignity/crush commies, get out".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276258
Done. Thanks for the reminder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276259
Fucking this. I had really wanted to mention something about Vietnam as well regarding pettiness and piss poor social engineering. It was definitely leaning more towards Communism in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276259
>Already developed Imperial powers which only needed stimulus to rebuild.
So was India in the 18th century. No different from any other intervention by any other country.
>You don't have to go to /int/ to know that former Yugo states are all shit, regardless of GDP.
There was a civil war when the US came in and there is no civil war now, that's an improvement no matter how you look at it.
>What intervention?
Check your own list.
>Literally survives on drugs
Do you still live in the 90's?
>Colombia has a mixed economy with major commercial and investment ties to the United States. The main farming activities of Colombia are petrochemical industry, coal, textile industry, construction, coffee, dairy, sugar, bananas, flowers, cotton and meat.
>Thailand, Philippines
Thailand and the Philippines are newly industrialized countries, and they are certainly better off than before the US intervened
>Rich in natural resources, high GDP beforehand, regardless of intervention.
Any number of the nations in your list are rich in natural resources, so by that account I can invalidate every nation in your list.
>At this point I realized that most of those nations haven't even had an intervention, and most are shitholes.
And yet you keep on posting nations whose intervention, from your list, consists of "paying money" or vague statements like "destabilization".

>Are you fucking kidding me?
That was to mock the Britbong, not a serious part of the list

>>12276274
You are aware Vietnam isn't even on that list?

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>>12276262
>Meanwhile, certain empires have had slightly less ambiguous endgames, in the form of striving to achieve (almost equal) progress and prosperity in a Commonwealth of nations
The United States tried just as hard as those certain empires, and those certain empires have failed horrifically as well. In many ways the US has been more successful when it comes to nation building.

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>>12276246
>When Agrarian India was colonized in the 16th century, it was not significantly below contemporary Europe in wealth and economic development or education.
There is a huge difference in infrastructure levels, I don't know how else to explain the difference without a wall of text.

>Whether I was a dick or not, I've made my point.
What? So know I can read minds and know exactly which treaty your talking about?

>Again, your point remained irrelevant, as I already explained.
You just shifted the topic.

>Threats do not constitute an intervention, even in your silly list.
What the fuck counts as an intervention then? In your list, the US never intervened militarily in a lot of those places.

>But this is incorrect. Most of where the US has intervened has either remained the same or advanced, like (>>12275776). And this still ignores nations that have advanced, simply not to the extent of India.
So what the hell is your definition of intervention? By this logic any nation that has had aid sent to it has been "intervened" in.

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>>12275489
>>12275625
These two posts are the best posts in this thread. Thank you, anons, for starting shit in /jp/ kancolle that actually had people reading each other's writing. My brain was beginning to dissolve from all the dumb rehashed shit in the majority of each thread.

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>>12276282
>There is a huge difference in infrastructure levels, I don't know how else to explain the difference without a wall of text.
The differences between Portugal and India in the 16th century are not much larger than the differences between the United States and Postwar europe. I don't know how else to explain the similarities without a wall of text.

>What? So know I can read minds and know exactly which treaty your talking about?
That the US has willingly democratized the Philippines without any guarantee of personal gain (to the point of allowing the Filipino senate to reject and redraft the treaty).

>You just shifted the topic.
You stuck a strawman on me and claim I shifted the topic when I correct you? Pardon me?

>What the fuck counts as an intervention then? In your list, the US never intervened militarily in a lot of those places.
Anything on your pastebin. Threats aren't on that pastebin.

>So what the hell is your definition of intervention? By this logic any nation that has had aid sent to it has been "intervened" in.
According to your pastebin, that's true. Look at your fifth line:
>Average of $30 million annually in payments to political and labor leaders to supportanti- Communist candidates in Italian elections. Successful.
So yes, any nation that has had aid sent to it has been "intervened" in. Unfortunately, threats are NOT there.

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>>12276278
So was India in the 18th century. No different from any other intervention by any other country.
Not industrialized. Indoor plumbing and refrigeration, please.
>There was a civil war when the US came in and there is no civil war now, that's an improvement no matter how you look at it.
You can certainly stick a logical label on it, sure. It doesn't mean you've disproved that America didn't stop that region from being a shithole.
>Do you still live in the 90's?
Just because it isn't the 90's anymore doesn't mean the 90's didn't happen. It also isn't to say that those two are still strong enough to actively seek out people and stop people hiding in their own territory who are participating in the drug trade.
>That was to mock the Britbong, not a serious part of the list
Don't tell me you've assumed that I'm blind to how the British divided regions by natural resources in many cases. Also, Britbong is kind of an awful label for an anon who's never been to any regions colonized by the British.

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>>12276321
>Also, Britbong is kind of an awful label for an anon who's never been to any regions colonized by the British.
Also I've never been to the UK either.

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>>12276278
>So was India in the 18th century. No different from any other intervention by any other country.
There is a difference even today between India and Europe( a very big difference), but for some reason you won't acknowledge this.
>There was a civil war when the US came in and there is no civil war now, that's an improvement no matter how you look at it.
Are the results better than what would have happened if the US did not intervene?
>Check your own list
That's not my list. Also
>1953: COSTA RICA. Overthrow government of Jose Figueres. Unsuccessful
Wow, it's fucking nothing
>Do you still live in the 90's?
Do you live in reality?
>Any number of the nations in your list are rich in natural resources, so by that account I can invalidate every nation in your list.
Again, not my list, but, how many of them have regressed as a result of intervention?
>And yet you keep on posting nations whose intervention, from your list, consists of "paying money" or vague statements like "destabilization".
Still not my list, but I can say that by supporting one faction to try and kill the other is pretty much destabilization.

>The differences between Portugal and India in the 16th century are not much larger than the differences between the United States and Postwar europe. I don't know how else to explain the similarities without a wall of text.
Are we even on the same topic here? 20th century Europe is not the same as 16th century India.

>You stuck a strawman on me and claim I shifted the topic when I correct you? Pardon me?
Pardon me? Your posts don't even follow up you retard.

>Anything on your pastebin. Threats aren't on that pastebin.
Not mine.

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>>12276294
>>12276327
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Also, I should say your greentexts don't follow

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This just in: muricafag enjoys moving goalposts in attempts to refute multiple anons all arguing about different things

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>>12276294
>So yes, any nation that has had aid sent to it has been "intervened" in. Unfortunately, threats are NOT there.
One is economic aid, the other is illegal.

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>>12276321
>Not industrialized. Indoor plumbing and refrigeration, please.
Britain was not industrialized either: Rockets and cataract surgery, please. By the way, Refrigeration has been around since 500 BC in Persia, and indoor plumbing since 1300 BC in the Indus Valley.
>You can certainly stick a logical label on it, sure. It doesn't mean you've disproved that America didn't stop that region from being a shithole.
Nation building is not the job of the United States. I've proved that United States intervention has brought an improvement to the region.
>Just because it isn't the 90's anymore doesn't mean the 90's didn't happen.
It means that, with United States assistance, Colombia's economy is thriving on its own.

>Don't tell me you've assumed that I'm blind to how the British divided regions by natural resources in many cases.
I'm saying it was irrelevant and was not intended to actually show a case where US intervention brought improvement.

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Anyone know how to summon that "m" guy?
Curious if there's anything other than Souryuu kai ni coming in this maintenance.

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>>12276337
Also on your list
>1956-1957: JORDAN. Average of $750,000 annually in personal payments to King Hussein. According to United States government, payments ceased when disclosed in 1976.
Completely legal, I'm sure.

>>12276327
>There is a difference even today between India and Europe( a very big difference), but for some reason you won't acknowledge this.
I acknowledge that, but there was a much smaller difference in 1500 between India and Europe.

>Are the results better than what would have happened if the US did not intervene?
Given an ethnic cleansing and going on, and Dutch UN peacekeepers were recently convicted of failing to protect said minorities, yes.
>1953: COSTA RICA. Overthrow government of Jose Figueres. Unsuccessful
Alright, so is every other intervention fucking nothing then? There's no reason to include them in the list of supposed US Fuckups if all unsuccessful actions are not interventions
>Do you live in reality?
>no logical response
>D-do y-you live inr-reality?
I can link you to as many links as you like about Colombia's improving economy, what have you to prove yourself?
>Again, not my list, but, how many of them have regressed as a result of intervention?
Some have, but far less than those that have been improved

>Are we even on the same topic here? 20th century Europe is not the same as 16th century India.
The US rebuilt postwar Europe in the 20th century. Europe built its Indian colonies in the 16th century. Europe building trading posts in India in the 16th century was as hard as the US rebuilding in Europe, since in both cases tehre were skileld personnel already avaliable.

>Pardon me? Your posts don't even follow up you retard.
How about you learn to read you retard.

>Not mine.
Then what do YOU consider an intervention then? Military Occupation? Because many of the European countries benefiting under the marshall plan still fall under that category, since they were also occupied at some point by US personnel.

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>>12276346
>Britain was not industrialized either: Rockets and cataract surgery, please.
Certainly not industrialized, but of course developed.
>By the way, Refrigeration has been around since 500 BC in Persia, and indoor plumbing since 1300 BC in the Indus Valley.
Irrelevant, refrigeration was not very efficient or feasible, and indoor plumbing has been in Britain for a long time, but not in India.

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>>12276359
His method of obtaining data doesn't work anymore

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>>12276336
My argument (>>12275644, >>12275694) was always, from the beginning, that the US has fucked up, but the world forgets where it stabilized regions. Do tell me where the goalposts have been moved.

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>>12276371
That sucks. Does it have to do with that encrypted handshake api call stuff.

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>>12276359

>>12245336
>>12245344
>>12245354

There is no M anymore.

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>>12276370
>Certainly not industrialized, but of course developed.
And India was certainly not industrialized, but of course developed.

>Irrelevant, refrigeration was not very efficient or feasible
>In 1755 he was enticed by Lord Kames to become Professor of Chemistry and Medicine at the University of Edinburgh. It was in Edinburgh, in 1756, that he gave the first documented public demonstration of artificial refrigeration.[12] Cullen used a pump to create a partial vacuum over a container of diethyl ether, which then boiled, absorbing heat from the surroundings. This created a small amount of ice, but the process found no commercial application.
Refrigeration was neither efficient nor feasible in Great Britain in the 18th century. Even the ice box did not emerge until teh turn of the 19th century.
>and indoor plumbing has been in Britain for a long time, but not in India.
Again, Britain lacked things India had. They were both developed nations for their time.

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>>12276346
>Britain was not industrialized either: Rockets and cataract surgery, please. By the way, Refrigeration has been around since 500 BC in Persia, and indoor plumbing since 1300 BC in the Indus Valley.
Bullshit, you know exactly what industrialization is, it has nothing to do with the Space Age, I'm talking about the era in which Industrialization through innovation in manufacturing processes first started in the era we're greentexting. By the way, rockets have been around since possibly the 13th century in China.
>Nation building is not the job of the United States. I've proved that United States intervention has brought an improvement to the region.
This is exactly why the world is shit right now. Nation building is a responsibility that the foremost economic power on Planet Earth should engage in, because those natural resources won't simply be theirs for the taking soon, and trading with people who don't want to see your way of life destroyed is a bit easier than usual.

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>>12276365
>I acknowledge that, but there was a much smaller difference in 1500 between India and Europe.
That has absolutely nothing to do with my original post, and it doesn't even follow up with the argument I was making.
>Given an ethnic cleansing and going on, and Dutch UN peacekeepers were recently convicted of failing to protect said minorities, yes.
Can't know for sure, Yugoslavia can still exist.
>>Do you live in reality?
>>no logical response
>>D-do y-you live inr-reality?
>I can link you to as many links as you like about Colombia's improving economy, what have you to prove yourself?
Don't put words into my mouth. By the way,
>As of 2013 Colombia remains the world's largest cocaine producer
Ecuador is no better.
>The US rebuilt postwar Europe in the 20th century. Europe built its Indian colonies in the 16th century. Europe building trading posts in India in the 16th century was as hard as the US rebuilding in Europe, since in both cases tehre were skileld personnel already avaliable.
The US sent aid, but not manpower.
>How about you learn to read you retard.
Okay, let me link our posts.
(cont.)

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>>12276380
>Bullshit, you know exactly what industrialization is, it has nothing to do with the Space Age, I'm talking about the era in which Industrialization through innovation in manufacturing processes first started in the era we're greentexting.
India had been mass producing and manufacturing muskets since the 16th century.
>By the way, rockets have been around since possibly the 13th century in China.
And Plumbing and Refrigeration have been around for that, what's your point?
>This is exactly why the world is shit right now. Nation building is a responsibility that the foremost economic power on Planet Earth should engage in, because those natural resources won't simply be theirs for the taking soon, and trading with people who don't want to see your way of life destroyed is a bit easier than usual.
But nobody has ever tried. The British Empire chose places it would develop, as did the Japanese, the French, and the Chinese. The Why is it so surprising that the US chose what it wanted to build (Japan, South Korea, Europe, Taiwan, Phillippines) and did the same?

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>>12276372
Sorry, wrong idiom. I've just been too taken up by your profuse use of semantics to one-up people on the Internet with greentext quoting.

You really do belong on /pol/.

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>>12276395
>But nobody has ever tried.
What? What does "choosing places to develop" have to do severing the tie between developing and nation building? You're going to need to clarify.

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>>12276386


>>12275925
>India and Pakistan, still at each other's throats
Here, we see you raise the example of India v. Pakies

>>12275974
>That was the fault of the Indians and Pakies alone, While the British could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
Here, I talk about why the British did not fail

>>12275994
>Yes, Vietnam was the fault of the French and Vietnamese alone, and Iraq was the fault of the shiites and sunnis alone, right? Your double standards never cease to impress.
Here, you confuse me for someone else

>>12276021
>Both of these happened after a particularly major event altered the political landscape. In the case of the British, they pulled out, and the Indians and Pakies went at it, while Vietnam was the death throes of an empire desperately clinging to its holdings, and Iraq had the only stabalizing element forcibly removed.
Here I discuss why those examples don't work.

>>12276038
>Then kindly do not fault the US for its failures and attempt to excuse others for the same transgressions.
Here you raise something irrelevant.

>>12276067
>I just used the example you gave.
Here, I just used the example you gave.

>>12276111
>>12276158
Here we discuss relevancy

>>12276186
>Bringing up the Suez Canal example was irrelevant, as my point was never to prove that the US consistently intervened for moral reasons (as you have strawmanned me), simply that in more cases than not the end results have been positive. Bringing up the Suez Canal (which was not an intervention in the first place, simply an unwillingness to support the French and British) neither cites an adequate example nor invalidates my point.
Suddenly Suez canal.

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>>12276386
>That has absolutely nothing to do with my original post, and it doesn't even follow up with the argument I was making.
Your argument was that it was far easier for America to rebuild Europe (in the 20th century) than it was for Europe to build colonies in India (in the 16th century), because there were skilled personnel already present to build infrastructure in Europe. But when the Europeans came to India in the 16th there were also equally skilled merchants and architects to build their trading posts.
>By early 2000 there had been the beginning of an economic recovery, with the export sector leading the way, as it enjoyed the benefit of the more competitive exchange rate, as well as strong prices for petroleum,
The fact that Colombia and Ecuador have a drug trade does not offeset the fact that both of their other indigenous industries are also improving.
>The US sent aid, but not manpower.
It also occupied military bases all over the region. This was not about colonies, but interventions.

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>>12276407
>Here, we see you raise the example of India v. Pakies
Let us not be disingenuous, you and I both realized (and you posted) that you were not that poster, in a post unfortunately gone. That was a case of mistaken identity.

>Here, I talk about why the British did not fail
>Here, you confuse me for someone else
You were implying that the United States had failed, but were providing excuses for the failure of the British. I pointed out that you were imposing a double standard, and that your argument that the British did not fail implies that the United States did not fail.

>Here you raise something irrelevant.
See above. You seem to have concluded that the vast majority of the United States interventions were failures, when application of your example in >>12275974 explain why the United States did not fail either.

>Here, I just used the example you gave.
>Here we discuss relevancy
This may be my mistake, but I assumed you were using my Suez Canal example as your example.

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This is the KanColle thread right?

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>>12276417
Wrong thread. Search again

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>>12276417
It was, till these /pol/ assholes showed up.
Must be a busy night for the janitors or something.

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>>12276401
>I've just been too taken up by your profuse use of semantics to one-up people on the Internet
Do remind me where the semantics disagreed with the facts I provided.
>with greentext quoting.
When our arguments span paragraphs and multiple talking points it's necessary to point out what point I am responding to.
>You really do belong on /pol/.
I do, and we should have fucked off to /pol/ far earlier, but at this point all three of us have likely reached the point where all three(?) of us will be banned by the end of today for our autism at any rate.

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>>12276409
>Your argument was that it was far easier for America to rebuild Europe (in the 20th century) than it was for Europe to build colonies in India (in the 16th century), because there were skilled personnel already present to build infrastructure in Europe. But when the Europeans came to India in the 16th there were also equally skilled merchants and architects to build their trading posts.
Not only was there skilled personnel, but you know, cities and roads (the fucking autobahn), none of which was ever completely annihilated.
>The fact that Colombia and Ecuador have a drug trade does not offeset the fact that both of their other indigenous industries are also improving.
>The administration of President Andrés Pastrana Arango, when it took office on 7 August 1998, faced an economy in crisis, with the difficult internal security situation and global economic turbulence additionally inhibiting confidence. As evidence of a serious recession became clear in 1999, the government took a number of steps. It engaged in a series of controlled devaluations of the peso, followed by a decision to let it float. Colombia also entered into an agreement with the International Monetary Fund which provided a $2.7 billion guarantee (extended funds facility), while committing the government to budget discipline and structural reforms.
This had nothing to do with the US

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I hope you guys are fucking banned for the next fucking century for this shit.

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>>12276409
>This was not about colonies, but interventions.
Not different to me. When the white man steps on shores not of his own, there are always profound implications, and most things in history are interconnected to everything else.

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>>12276424
>Not only was there skilled personnel, but you know, cities and roads (the fucking autobahn), none of which was ever completely annihilated.
>Road. The Grand Trunk Road built by Sher Shah Suri 1540 to 1545, began in Sonargaon near Dhaka in Bangladesh and ended at Peshawar in modern-day Pakistan. In India, it linked several important cities from Kolkata in the east to Amritsar in the west, while passing through the cities of Patna, Varanasi, Kanpur, Agra, Delhi, Panipat, Pipli, Ambala, Rajpura, Ludhiana, and Jalandhar.
Again, this doesn't compare to the vast road network accessible to the US, but for the 16th century it was certainly comparable
>Colombia is the United States' fifth-largest export market in Latin America—behind Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, and Argentina—and the 26th-largest market for U.S. products worldwide. The United States is Colombia's principal trading partner, with two-way trade from November 1999 through November 2000 exceeding $9.5 billion--$3.5 billion U.S. exports and $6.0 billion U.S. imports. Colombia benefits from duty-free entry—for a 10-year period, through 2001—for certain of its exports to the United States under the Andean Trade Preferences Act. Colombia improved protection of intellectual property rights through the adoption of three Andean Pact decisions in 1993 and 1994, but the U.S. remains concerned over deficiencies in licensing, patent regulations, and copyright protection..
>This had nothing to do with the US
Let us not be selective. This also selectively ignores American military assistance in Colombia to suppress both FARC and its precursor.

>>12276426
>Not different to me.
Not completely different. All colonies are interventions, but not all interventions are colonies.

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>>12276413
>when application of your example in >>12275974 (You|Dead) explain why the United States did not fail either
I never made an example, which thing are you talking about?

>>12276422
We were always here

>>12276425
Bans mean nothing when evasion is so easy

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>>12276429
I'm talking about your example of
>That was the fault of the Indians and Pakies alone, While the British could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
The problem is that you can apply this logic to nearly every single intervention the United States has conducted and thus conclude that the United States was not at fault, since all those nations where the US overthrew the local government needed to
>settle their own internal politics alone.

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>>12276428
>Again, this doesn't compare to the vast road network accessible to the US, but for the 16th century it was certainly comparable
This is still harder than building upon already built cities with foundations. Please just take a class is logistics and engineering.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Colombia#1990-1999
Yes, economic recovery had nothing to do with the US. Just because they were trading before does not = intervention

>>12276432
>The problem is that you can apply this logic to nearly every single intervention the United States has conducted and thus conclude that the United States was not at fault, since all those nations where the US overthrew the local government needed to
>settle their own internal politics alone.
Overthrowing the local government is not settling internal politics alone, are you high?

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>>12276440
>This is still harder than building upon already built cities with foundations. Please just take a class is logistics and engineering.
You seem to be under the impression that cities in India did not exist prior to European arrival. Please take a class in history.

>Yes, economic recovery had nothing to do with the US. Just because they were trading before does not = intervention
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Colombia
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Colombia_Free_Trade_Agreement
Yes, economic recovery had much to do with the US, thanks to US assistance in stabilizing unrest in the region.

>Overthrowing the local government is not settling internal politics alone, are you high?
Did you happen to somehow forget Great Britain overthrowing countless governments in India, but are somehow not at fault now thanks to that excuse? If years of military, economic and ethnic exploitation can be explained away once they left with
>it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
then nearly every single American governmental intervention can be explained in the same way.

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>>12276440
>>12276456
Let me explain with some examples. Let's say, Vietnam. The United States brought large scale electoral fraud into the South Vietnamese election to put Diem in power. The East India Company (and later the Empire) overthrew the governments of local Indian princes and Rajes, or co-opted them with bribes or coercion.

British India exploited ethnic minorities and pitted them against each other by favoring certain ethnic groups (the tamil in Ceylon, for example, or the Sikhs as a martial race). Similarly, the United States employed ethnic divisions, such as the separatist Hmong, exacerbating ethnic conflicts.

But apparently, Britain can walk away scot-free once it left, and is not at all at fault for the Indian-Pakistani conflict, because
>While the British could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.

So, leaving South Vietnam and allowing North Vietnam to conquer their old client state, the United States is not at fault for turning Vietnam into a totalitarian communist state with a cheerful disregard for human rights, because, after all,
>While the Americans could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.

So naturally, neither the British Empire nor the United States can be responsible for their interventions in India or Vietnam

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>>12276456
>You seem to be under the impression that cities in India did not exist prior to European arrival. Please take a class in history.
I never implied India did not have cities, only that the far more stable European ones could be rebuilt easier. Please take an English class.

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Colombia_Free_Trade_Agreement
>2006
The US never intervened to save the tanking economy in the 90's, If anything this refutes the claim that i am living in the 90's

>Did you happen to somehow forget Great Britain overthrowing countless governments in India, but are somehow not at fault now thanks to that excuse? If years of military, economic and ethnic exploitation can be explained away once they left with
>it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
then nearly every single American governmental intervention can be explained in the same way.
I'm not trying to excuse what the British did, I'm saying that their after withdrawal from the region, it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war.

>>12276464
>While the Americans could have intervened, it was necessary for the new nations to settle their own internal politics alone.
Yeah, it was necessary. North and South Vietnam should have never existed. US intervention only exacerbated the problem.

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I'm tired of reporting this assh/pol/es.

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>>12276474
I feel like it slows them down, but I don't know what we can do to actually get rid of them for good.

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>>12276476
I haven't even gotten a warning, it's probably because were past the bump limit the janitors don't care.

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>>12276479
we're*

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>>12276468
>I never implied India did not have cities, only that the far more stable European ones could be rebuilt easier. Please take an English class.
>This is still harder than building upon already built cities with foundations.
Remind me how building a few trading posts within an already-built city with a healthy road network is somehow more difficult than rebuilding a whole nation consisting of ruins and road network.

>The US never intervened to save the tanking economy in the 90's, If anything this refutes the claim that i am living in the 90's
>If anything this refutes the claim that i am living in the 90's
Quite the opposite. With US military up until the 80's, and evidently a free trade agreement began in the 2000's, in what era could you possibly insist the US never made any interventions except the 90's?

>I'm not trying to excuse what the British did, I'm saying that their after withdrawal from the region, it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war.
In that case, the US' involvement in Iran, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq or Cuba were all improvements, because
>after withdrawal from the region, it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war.

>Yeah, it was necessary. North and South Vietnam should have never existed. US intervention only exacerbated the problem
Just as it was necessary for India. Colonial India should have never existed. British intervention only exacerbated the problem.

Look, I really can't remember if you were the anon who kept on bringing up the British Colonial Empire as if they were a shining example of nation building, but if you are, the point is that the the British are as guilty of fucking up just as much (if not more so) as the Americans.

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>>12276479
>warnings
you get warnings?

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>>12276479
Well then, I'll just appeal to your humanity and good sense.

For the sake of your fellow TTK, please take your discussion to /pol/. You're much more likely to find like minded people who will discuss your topic with you to your heart's content. You might get some supporters and some great, intelligent opposition as well.

You can easily give a link to the rest of your discussion buddies about your new thread in /pol/ and you can all enjoy your conversation with nary a pause.

Please. Please.

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>>12276484
>humanity and good sense
>/pol/

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>>12276482
>Remind me how building a few trading posts within an already-built city with a healthy road network is somehow more difficult than rebuilding a whole nation consisting of ruins and road network.
You overestimate the destruction WW2 caused, in the worst case scenario, they would have to bulldoze a building, but the foundation and streets are still there. Repairing streets and railways is easy.

>Quite the opposite. With US military up until the 80's, and evidently a free trade agreement began in the 2000's, in what era could you possibly insist the US never made any interventions except the 90's?
No, the US never made any intervention militarily or economically in Colombia.

>In that case, the US' involvement in Iran, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq or Cuba were all improvements, because
>after withdrawal from the region, it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war.
Yes, because the British did not intervene in the aftermath of their withdrawal from India, a dispute was settled between two ethnic groups and resulted in two different states rather than a potential apartheid solution. I have never stated that British colonialism was good.

>Just as it was necessary for India. Colonial India should have never existed. British intervention only exacerbated the problem.
see above

>Look, I really can't remember if you...
No, i'm the guy that said
>Dude, I'm not him, I just got here, I don't care about the British

>>12276483
They are 15 min bans that a janitor can issue until a mod get the time to review a report. This "prevents" spam-style shitposting.

>>12276484
If I go to /pol/ there will be no end to this discussion, but it seems we're both done

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276516
>You overestimate the destruction WW2 caused, in the worst case scenario, they would have to bulldoze a building, but the foundation and streets are still there. Repairing streets and railways is easy.
Again, building a trading post in an already-thriving city with a road network is easy as well.

>No, the US never made any intervention militarily or economically in Colombia.
>https://nacla.org/article/us-troops-colombia-threat-peace
>In August, a deal was announced in which the U.S. military will be granted the use of five military bases in Colombia
>In May 1964, as part of Kennedy's Alliance for Progress, a CIA backed program was initiated, called Plan LAZO. U.S. trained Colombian military troops invaded these largest peasant enclaves, using bomber aircraft with Napalm, in an attempt to destroy this threat.
Dude, are you really trying to argue this?

>Yes, because the British did not intervene in the aftermath of their withdrawal from India, a dispute was settled between two ethnic groups and resulted in two different states rather than a potential apartheid solution.
And the US did not intervene in the aftermath of their withdrawal from Vietnam.

>I have never stated that British colonialism was good.
You did state, however that (>>12276407) "the British did not fail." By that extension, US interventions in Vietnam, Iraq and Iran were not failures either. Indeed, as proved with the Vietnam example, by that extension the results of virtually every single US-supported coup or government change would not be failures, undermining your very argument from the beginning, that US interventions are "failures." Given that most other interventions (the Marshall plan, the occupation and reconstruction of Japan, South Korea and Germany) are clear successes, this all suggests that US interventions were either neutral, since
>it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war,
or successful, since they resulted in the creation of US allies.

[Anonymous No.]

>mods instantly deleted shit/pol/sters

Praise be unto the mods, their glory eternal.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you, mods.

Whoever makes the next thread, make sure to include a warning against /pol/ shit. I don't mind the occasional tangent, but that shit was fucking awful.

Walls of fucking green text and pointless back and forth nonsense. I thought it would never end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276550
>Again, building a trading post in an already-thriving city with a road network is easy as well.
Okay.

>Dude, are you really trying to argue this?
Make up your damn mind when it comes to the era. 90's m8, That's what you originally started on.

>And the US did not intervene in the aftermath of their withdrawal from Vietnam.
US withdrawal != British withdrawal. One was the result of a war, the other decolonialism and was voluntary.

>You did state, however that (>>12276407 (You|Dead)) "the British did not fail." By that extension, US interventions in Vietnam, Iraq and Iran were not failures either. Indeed, as proved with the Vietnam example, by that extension the results of virtually every single US-supported coup or government change would not be failures, undermining your very argument from the beginning, that US interventions are "failures." Given that most other interventions (the Marshall plan, the occupation and reconstruction of Japan, South Korea and Germany) are clear successes, this all suggests that US interventions were either neutral, since
>it was good for internal politics regardless of the civil war,
or successful, since they resulted in the creation of US allies.
Now were arguing semantics.
>>12276577
Still here faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276595
You've been told that your bullshit is not welcome, and you go ahead and continue it anyway?

Nope, not happening. Get the fuck out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276607
Thank you. God bless the mods.

[Anonymous No.]

So any surprises for this maintenance?
Maybe I-401 in LSC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276669
No, that's for the 28th. A great prelude to the event start four days later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276669
Haruna will be delayed indifferently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276676
You mean another LSC trap for the easily fooled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276682
B-but they promised the daijoubu.
They've never retracted on a firm date before, have they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276685
>>12276669
>halfway through the event, the staff announces that Musashi and I-401 will be pulled back out of the LSC pool when the event ends

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276697
This would ruin me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276697

I stockpile for this kind of unlikely bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

メンテナンス状況：本日のアップデート情報をお知らせしていきます。

01▼正規空母「蒼龍」のさらなる【改装】の実装
練度の極めて高い正規空母「蒼龍」の【改装(改造)】が可能となります。
※今回は時報ボイス等の追加実装はありません。
※同改装には新艦載機搭載が付属します。

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276735
Level 88 remodel coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276735
Is that all? Not even new furniture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276739
It's just the first notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276739
That's just the first patchnote, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276739
No new furniture, no new ships, no new voices, but Souryuu gets to keep her smile. Great sacrifice was required to persuade Shibafu to not destroy the poor girl's happiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276739
Here you go

02▼本日実装される【新改装艦】の補足 本日のアップデートで実装される正規空母「蒼龍」の改装(改造)に「改装設計図」は【不要】です。また、同改装に伴い配備される新装備(艦載機隊)は、特定の条件を満たすことで【機種転換】が可能です。

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276745
Does that say blueprints not required?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276749
yeah, did you have any doubt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276749
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276750
Nah. I just wanted to make sure.

[Anonymous No.]

03▼陽炎型駆逐艦三隻に【追加ボイス】の実装
駆逐艦「陽炎」「不知火」「黒潮」の改装後に、それぞれ「補給」「放置」「ケッコンカッコカリ専用母港」ボイス他が追加/更新実装されます。

New lines for Kagerou, Kuroshio and Shiranui.

[Anonymous No.]

04▼正規空母「赤城」の【追加ボイス】実装
正規空母「赤城」に「補給」「放置」「ケッコンカッコカリ専用母港」ボイスが追加実装されます。また、来月実施予定の夏イベント開始まで「限定母港ボイス」が実装されます。

[Anonymous No.]

04▼正規空母「赤城」の【追加ボイス】実装
正規空母「赤城」に「補給」「放置」「ケッコンカッコカリ専用母港」ボイスが追加実装されます。また、来月実施予定の夏イベント開始まで「限定母港ボイス」が実装されます。

New lines for Akagi and I think some new lines for Kaga too, but they're for limited time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276757
There'll be some permanent lines for supplying, idleness and marriage for Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

So, Akagi and three Saki Fujita voiced Kagerou type girls get new voices.
I guess this indicate we will see another K2 from other girls voiced by her in the near future.

Rest of Saki ships are Fusou, Yamashiro, and Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276761
Any of them do anything significant at AL or MI?
That's who I'd put my money on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276761
My Fusous are ready for their time to shine.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276757
I don't know how you read Kaga or limited time out of that tweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276771

Lack of sleep and google translate.

Yes, I just realized, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276770
Grad I didn't scrap those Suiseis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276770
Wait, what's with that gun? Haruna Kai-2 equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276770

God, I want mantainance to end already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276770
I honestly don't remember if I scrapped all my Suisei or not. I have almost twenty 12A so it would make sense that I junked them, but maybe I kept them around for some stupid reason.

[Anonymous No.]

05) New furniture in the furniture shop
The available furniture has been updated for Summertime
* Fireworks Window
* Inflatable pool
* Beach Floor (Requires furniture fairy)
* Watermelon set (Returning furniture)
* 6th Torpedo Squadron Wallscroll (Returning furniture)

[Anonymous No.]

Souryuu kai ni

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276778

Haruna mounted 4 twin 356mm guns so I doubt its hers.Though ii could be the devs destroying history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276770
Don't be that delusion, slutfag
It will be month rank reward

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
Where have all the smiles gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
WHY

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit. WHY DEVS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
That's bullshit. But I believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
Here we go again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276787
I know, but I had no better idea how they could put it into the game. Though someone said it could be a ranking reward, that seems more likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
Well. It could have been worse. Or could it?

[Anonymous No.]

5 minutes to bring back my expeditions... AND NOOOO HER REMODEL ISN'T 77

[Anonymous No.]

Woah, brunei is up.

[Anonymous No.]

After more furniture updates I'm not really interested in,

09▼表示系の一部修正/更新
「図鑑」のテキストを一部修正/更新しました。また、既存装備「41cm連装砲」のグラフィックを更新しました。

41cm cannon getting a new picture apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276797
Unlike Hiryuu's determination, Souryuu looks like her life is flashing before her eyes. I wonder how broken she'll look in her damaged sprite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276786
At least she is more healthy now.

[Anonymous No.]

I like all the extra info they added.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276802
Looks more like being surprised to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276799

Don't tell me they made her lvl 88 AND they destroyed her smile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276806
What is that 110 thing?

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12276770
>Type 97 Torpedo Bomber (Skilled)
>Type 99 Dive Bomber ( ??? Squadron)
>Suisei ( ??? Squadron)
>??? 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount

>>12276786
Her expression reminds me of Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

10▼【新装備】の実装 下記の【新装備】が実装されました。
●九九式艦爆(江草隊)
●彗星(江草隊)
●九七式艦攻(熟練) また、月次作戦褒賞及び来月以降実装される新任務等で入手可能な ●試製35.6cm三連装砲 も実装されます。

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276811
Ship space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276810
78 or less.

[Anonymous No.]

Surely this all just temporary to set the tone for Midway. After the event they'll get slightly altered artwork with their smiles back, right? Right?

[Anonymous No.]

Is she actually frowning? At this rate Shinano is going to have tears streaming down her face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276814
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276817
The reward for clearing the 20 star extra operation map at the end of the event is alt sprites with their smiles restored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276812
T99 Dive Bomber (Ekusa-tai)
Suisei (Ekusa-tai)
Experimental 35.6cm triple mount cannon.

Get your shit together anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276812
>>12276824
Egusa Squadron

Takashige Egusa was Souryuu's ace pilot.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276830
He's never goin to improve, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Remodel level is 77.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276830
Lazy as away

[Anonymous No.]

So, after clearing my cache and whatnot just to be sure, it doesn't seem like Souryuu's remodel level is 77. Maybe it's 82?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276832
Remodel is 78. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276830
I take it back, the hair looks like it's done in MS paint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276835
>>12276836
>>12276832

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276836
I hope she gets double the stats to compensate in the downgrade of artowrk

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like we have a new quest to begin the chain for Egusa's Suisei. What's it require?

[Anonymous No.]

Souryuu Kai Ni no longer has planes spilling out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276843
Hiryuu kai 2, Souryuu kai 2 and 2 destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

江草:ekusa

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276846
Oh shit, that damage.
>>12276814
>>12276819
Not ship space, but current number of ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276846
13 Dive Bombing, nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276849
Ah, Souryuu isn't 78 yet so I didn't get rid of anyone yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276846
>4 accuracy
Indirect buff to CVs I guess

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, soryu gets her update....

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276861
Marry Souryuu? I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276863
Gotta appreciate the underappreciated

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276861
Akagi looks bored. Souryuu looks like she just received a terminal cancer diagnosis.

Incoming breast joke in 3…2…1

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276861
She looks retarded and down with that pigtail and face. This is even worse than any of the blunder by konishi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276861
Good taste, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Any of you guys know what is the new sortie quest for Souryuu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276877
No. No one talked about it above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276877
4-3 with Soryu flag, 2DDs and Hiryu Kai Ni, good luck with that....

[Anonymous No.]

Man, it's hard to make actually good looking sets out of these things.

This is about as good as I can get it, but I still don't think it's too great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276879
I just saw composition quest being talked above.
>>12276886
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276887
They need a wall-less option to make that work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276892
There is one, and I'm trying it out now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276886
Who's Soryu and Hiryu? Are they new ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276894
Ah wait, if you mean no walls at all then nah.

Anyway, I guess this is the only other good combo I can think of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276894
post pictures

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276896
I meant no walls, but it really wouldn't be an office anymore at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

So, I've downloaded the script from here https://github.com/amylase/kancolle-auto, installed sikuli installed python, opened sikuli and run this script $ ./processwatch.py sikuli kancolle_auto.sikuli and this is what I get in the error log:

[error] script [ *Sin título ]] stopped with error at line --unknown--
[error] Could not evaluate error source nor reason. Analyze StackTrace!
[error] SyntaxError: Illegal character in file '<string>' for encoding 'utf-8'

Any idea what am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276898
Looks like you're on the second story of your building anyway. No idea how you'd make it mesh with the background like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit. Battle animations are super fucking fast now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276902
That's been the case since spring event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276902
even more ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276902
That's what we said like three months ago. Did they update it again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276905
Even more, yes.

>>12276903
It's all relative. It's even faster now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276908
It may be smoother, but it's not faster. I did PvP and a couple sorties to get Souryuu from 77 to 78 and didn't notice that. Maybe your server was shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276909
Whatever. All I know is I just did some sorties as well and the girls went through their shelling phase like Taco Bell goes through my body.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what additional ships should I go with? 1 CAV and 1 BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276916
Additional ships for what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276918
The quest, what else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276918
Clear 4-3 with Hiryuu and Souryuu Kai2 plus two DD
I'd go with 1CAV 1BBV

[Anonymous No.]

How's my HQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276932
Unprofessional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276932
Why is there sand in your room?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276932
You should do something about that beached whale.

[S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12276786
So that's the expression she would make when the American planes are about to hit her. Joke aside, I'm severely disappointed. Her hair was badly drawn, boring pose, and unappealing overall.

>>12276926
Do you have to clear it with S rank?

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

Akagi's gluttony has become official canon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276935
It's like you've never wanted your own beach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276945
Not inside my room

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276945
I had my sandbox when I was little. That was plenty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276941
I don't know if S rank is required, but I assume it is, and if there is the sub in the boss node it could be quite hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276943
It was canon ever since the moon viewing furniture were added.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276926
Why BBV instead of just a normal BB? Does it help with branching?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276957
Maybe he wants to hunt those subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276957
>BBV and CAV.
Maybe he wants to sink the sub in boss node for S rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276957
BBV can attack subs at day and double attack at night with proper equip

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276932
owait

I found the window I was looking for

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know what the new construction/scrapping quest is for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276943
This update have pretty much changed my point of view of her. Before, i pretty much in denial of her 2nd personallity because i think i like her more than my other ships. But now, i'm going to treat her like how she really is, a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.]

3 times in a row, this is good bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276959
>>12276960
>>12276961
I figured you would be better off just putting ASW onto your destroyers and bringing a Hotel or Nagato, but I guess it might be a valid strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276964
While new T99 is on Souryuu scrap 2 Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>Akagi's new "poke" line

God, she's freightened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276968
Just like that marriage quest then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276978
>あの・・・提督、次の作戦がMI作戦と言うのは本当でしょうか？
Oh God, the switch has been flipped.

[Anonymous No.]

How's the new plane compared to 12A?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276981
Totally quoted the wrong post, but you know what I mean.
>>12276982
How about you read the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276982
Try scrolling up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276968
Shit, I forgot bringing 2 DDs made you go to node A. Good move, devs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276983
>>12276985
Some of the people on the wikia are saying that you don't need to do the new 4-3 quest to upgrade Egusa's Type 99 into a Suisei. Is this typical wikia stupidity, or is there some actual truth to this?

[Anonymous No.]

It's fairly obvious Kaga will be the last from 1st and 2nd division to get kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276994
It's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276994
Look real carefully at your quests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276994
You don't. I have the new plane already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276994
Try looking on the last page of the quest menu.

[Anonymous No.]

Akagi's new idle, poke and sortie lines are all great, but, man, that resupply line. Voice range all over the place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277003
Patiently waiting for Kaga's

[Anonymous No.]

Here, have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275625
Fuck you US scum, you think you can mess around the world like a spoiled kid, be prepared you arrogant head wrecked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276968
At least you don't get sent A->B->F->D->G, three times now.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12276967
What's her 1st personality?
From the first time i got her, i always viewed her as boke of the 1st CarDiv manzai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277030
Maybe if you used your reading skills, you might not have this problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277038
I'm not going to use the 2 free spots on CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277037
Probably he means the serious and dedicated Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277037
>boke of the 1st CarDiv manzai.
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277028
t: raghead

[S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12277027

[Anonymous No.]

OH THE HUMANITY

[Anonymous No.]

Anything good to make out of steel? It increase so fast and the only real time I lose it is from repairs and that is not too common.

No ships to build (except LSC) but I probably should make more equipment. Not too interested in spending ammo which increase at a slower pace due to sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277082
Don't do 37 and 38 at the same time, but only one of them + 21.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277087
That can still pile up the steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277088
Then do 5, 6, 21.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277072
So depressing

[Anonymous No.]

8 times sent out of the boss, 4 times sent to bauxite node, 0 retreats.

I hope devs get cancer.

[Tanaka No.]

>>12277104
Fuck you too mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277110
Just as you said that I got my first retreat, someone crit'd Verniy to red from full health.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone done the nachi group 2-5 quest? Just asking if its worth the trouble.
I hardly reach the boss node due to someone getting red.

[Anonymous No.]

Kaga's near marriageable level, Akagi's 70

It's going to look so weird with akagi flagship doing 3-2a like a new TTK again

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like people are having fun with Souryuu's hidden hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277104
8-5-4 now, I don't even.

[Anonymous No.]

We lesbo now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277087
I do 2, 21, 38 now. Used to do 2, 21, 37 which put me in this steel situation. But it still keeps rising because I'm not sure what to spend it on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277136
You made it so far and still aren't used to RNG being RNG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277104
What does that quest even reward? Does anyone know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277142
I'm used to it, but having this happen after many days of taking 5+ hours to do the dailies makes me start to question myself many things.

>>12277145
No idea about the rewards, I just want to complete it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277145
hmm... I think wiki might have your answer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277147
It's not there yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277147
Not only has that quest not yet been added to the quest page on the wiki, but none of the comments on either the recent updates or quest page have indicated what the reward is yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277147
Why don't you read the wiki yourself to see that it's not answered there, you condescending dipshit.

[Anonymous No.]

35.6cm for the top 5.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Well, the new equipment exchange screen is pretty cute, that flip and all

[Anonymous No.]

Must Akagi be married for me to hear the MI line? Been poking her for a while and I've yet to hear it

[Anonymous No.]

Seems like you get a furniture fairy for completing the 4-3 sortie quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277181
Keep poking.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are fatdragon's stats are so much inferior to her sister

This is depressing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277187
She's a fatass, that's why. They aren't actually sisters too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277187
Hiryuu is (in theory) harder to obtain than Souryuu.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12277044
First impression, i guess. Her airheadness is a stark contrast when compared to Kaga's stoic expression.
And it didn't help that there was many admiral who complains about Akagi's resource consumption relative to the whole fleet.

>>12277145
Quest B26, Furniture fairy. It's already on wikiwiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277187
There isn't much of a difference, just a few points

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277147
Where the fuck did you go, anon? Are you gonna magically give me a wiki update? If not, then fuck you and fucking say something you dipshit.

[Anonymous No.]

So where are the fireworks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277217
yay.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this faggot quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277241
The game's making me trade fuel ammo for bauxite so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277136
12-8-8 now, this is fucking bullshit.

>>12277241
Devs really went the faggot way, this is much worse than 5-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277165
Stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277254
+18atk +5AA +2acc

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12277230
I'm still waiting for it.

>>12277254
+18 Firepower, +5 AA, +2 Accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277197
It is harder to obtain than Soryuu. She only starts to drop at 2-3 boss node s rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277247
And now this happens, first attack of Ta literally fucks Z3 into red and completely ruins my only boss fight after 30 tries.

I wish I could personally slaughter the man behind this quest, haven't been this angry since over a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277273
Take a break, Anon. You're going to break your body, mind and soul at this rate. Go let out some steam on something else before coming back refreshed.

[Anonymous No.]

How to do 3-2 fatigue farming? Is it normal that I lose 50-60 bauxite each sortie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276069

How did you add that variable to the script? being stuck on this for some time. I'm copying the whole kancolle_auto.py script and putting it on sikuli.

[Anonymous No.]

What a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277320
Faggot like this should never get Taihou or Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

WHY IS NODE A ALWAYS THE BB COMP

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277286
>Is it normal that I lose 50-60 bauxite each sortie
No.

[Anonymous No.]

YESYESYES, fucking YES. After 16 times being sent out of the boss from node G, 8 times to the bauxite node on the North route, having to retreat 14 times and getting my first chance shattered, after all that bullshit I FINALLY made it. This time I played UC UNICORN as soon as I hit the boss node.

I'm glad it's over.

>>12277277
Taking a break would only have frustrated me further, but thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277369
What's the reward?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277372
A furniture fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277359
I just loaded all my carriers with blue plane, does I need to equip red and green plane too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277286
>>12277380
Are you using CVs or CVLs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277380
I don't know, I don't do 3-2. Each 5-4A costs 10 baux with 2 carriers, though.

[Anonymous No.]

So I was trying out these new starshells and night recon plane and I am getting buttblasted by those 2gold torpedo monsters.
Doesn't seem like the north route is actually easier.
I have much higher success rate going the middle route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277383
5 CV and a sub, they're pretty underleveled and I want to become more prepared for Midway event.

>>12277385
Isn't 5-4A had that one CVL that could appear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277392
Then it sounds like a normal cost, replenishing planes from CVs is more expensive, I sometimes use like 70 bauxite in a single 3-2-A run and as low as 25 when I'm lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277392
>Isn't 5-4A had that one CVL that could appear?
It does. That's why I keep 1 reppu on each CV.

[Anonymous No.]

300 fuel and 400 ammo down the fucking drain every attempt

And it's always the whirlpool. I hate this fucking map sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277410
CAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277410
If you hit the maelstrom, by the time you reach the boss node (if you even do) you won't have enough ammo to do anything but scratches on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277411
>>12277412
Not him, but once you beat the pre-boss node there's always a chance to go SW you know... Even with CAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277395
>>12277396
Ah thanks, I usually only use PVP to level the ships, so I'm a bit clueless about grinding ships on maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277419
Yeah, but all I'm saying is if you hit the maelstrom there is already no hope of S-ranking the boss and you will most likely just get a big and ugly defeat from trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277424
Ah sure but a CAV is a must here, since the DDs route you NW and you want to go for the fuel node.
I was implying he was complaining about the southern whirpool, which is annoying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>all these muh investigation
>muh grim and apocalyptic disaster
Just fucking send a battalion in there and disarmed all the fucking weapons and BUK.
Fucking hell UN and yurop, get your shit together, it is just a small group of separatists.

[Anonymous No.]

4 hours straight of 4-3 and I've not touched the boss once

Something tells me midway will bring back this sort of fucked up compass bullfuck again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277426
You can get sent to the northern maelstrom from the fuel node too though, it's a pain.

[Anonymous No.]

Stuck on this using Sikuli

[error] next.png looks like a file, but not on disk. Assume it's text.
[error] Region.find(text): text search is currently switched off
[error] Region.exists: seems that imagefile could not be found on disk

[error] bokou.png looks like a file, but not on disk. Assume it's text.
[error] Region.find(text): text search is currently switched off
[error] Region.exists: seems that imagefile could not be found on disk

[error] senseki.png looks like a file, but not on disk. Assume it's text.
[error] Region.find(text): text search is currently switched off
[error] script [ *Untitled ] stopped with error in line 122
[error] FindFailed ( Text search currently switched off )
[error] --- Traceback --- error source first line: module ( function ) statement 34: main ( go_bokou ) hover("senseki.png")
104: main ( init ) go_bokou()
[error] --- Traceback --- end --------------

I've already unticked "delete unused images" but this is still happening.

this is the script I've been trying to use on Sikuli http://pastebin.com/v22CcPUH

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277464
I don't care. Get your scripter ass out of here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277369
Welcome. Take care of yourself, admiral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12275971
>>12275962
Whining on kancolle threads working as well as always

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277630
Wanna go again m8?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277644
I'll pass, 4chins cup is on

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277471

Don't worry anon, I made it work. Phew, now I can finally work and hoard resources for Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277692
You're getting banned though.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277701

For swinging the mouse around? Pls anon, don't judge me harsly. I recently got 2 jobs and I only have 5 free hours a day to run expeditions , do my dailies and do PvP. At that pace, I won't be able to hpard enough resources for the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277721
Then how will you do the event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277721
What a fucking 3rd world slaving country do you live in where you have to work 19 hours a day?

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't they make Souryuu sakura-holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277734

One of the jobs is only for this month so I should be able to enjoy the event in August.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277752
Because she wasn't a holo one to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277740

Anon, please, I also need to sleep... I haven't reached the NEETdom plane where you could sleep in short halve hour intervals. Also, they are 2 different jobs I applied to earn extra money for saving it. I'm only 23 years old so I still need 7 more years to become a wizard and produce food and housing out of nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Just noticed that Akagi and three Kageros have new lines now. I'm guessing some of the girls we gonna get from the event may be voiced by Saki Fujita.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277769
Ever heard of spell-components? Some of them can cost a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277784
>I'm guessing some of the girls we gonna get from the event may be voiced by Saki Fujita.
Or maybe they wanted to give Akagi something for Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277769
All the cool spells are 9th level, though. I hope you like killing inordinate numbers of stirges and bullettes with nothing but the clever application of color spray for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277769
Recote access to desktop from a phone. Don't tell me you don't have a 5 minute break every 3 hours to resend your expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

Hacchan goes to the beach

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277869
Worst sub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277875
That's not _____.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277811
> cool spells are 9th level
They are not worth the cost though, and there are enough game-breaking stuff from level 0 ownwards.
> clever application of color spray
But I thought you just point it at things and win until DM has enough of this bullshit and starts throwing undead and other mind affecting-immune stuff inappropriate for your level. Nothing clever about that.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder why fa/tg/uys are one of the most common crossies on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277951
Best boards have to stick together.

[Anonymous No.]

Spoilers for retarded technical help needed
internet guy came by to fix my internet. I don't know what he did but now Logbook won't work for me. When I try the proxy function on KCV it's throwing me a
[Fiddler] The socket connection to the upstream proxy/gateway failed. Closing Fiddler, changing your system proxy settings, and restarting Fiddler may help.
ErrorCode: 10061.
No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 127.0.0.1:8888
I can get into the router settings but I have no idea what to change

[Anonymous No.]

Finally beat 3-4 after getting the boss fleet without BBs. It's all downhill from here, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277988
It's daijobu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277988
>It's all downhill from here, right?
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277977
Why do you let anyone touch your PC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277995
I don't think it was my PC, I mean I was using logbook yesterday so I assume its the internet guy's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277988
Everything will be fine until you reach 5-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277630
I whine about no Maikaze all the time. Where's my Maikaze? I need her to complete my Kagerou Collection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277273
Hah, I won this contest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278011
But she's a shit ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277999
Did you supervise his work? Next time you should supervise his work. Even if you're computer dumb, if he fucks shit up, and you can at least go to where he was fucking around, you have give better information to the /jp/ internet diagnostics team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278020
I'm going to marry (temp) Naganami and there's nothing you can say to stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278024
Why would I stop you.

[Anonymous No.]

60 buckets down the drain for a furniture fairy, along with nearly 8k fuel and 10k ammo

Best possible gear setups for every single ship, both DD's fully stocked on radar/sonars and it sitll comes down to the last hit from chikuma

Fucking SS comp didn't even appear when I went fully loaded

And it's always hankousen, never doukousen for the boss. Never, ever fucking saw a green-T in all my attempts except for node A for Ta-chan to analrape kirishima back into the harbour

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278020
All of the Kagerous are lovely and I'm going to marry the entire class some day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278077
Even Akigumo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278077
>some day

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278079
Especially Akigumo.

>>12278080
A very long term goal so I always have something to work towards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278081
Well good luck with that.

inb4 they add a new one the moment you think you're finished.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the new Souryuu sortie quest need S rank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278113
Yes. Enjoy your despair.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh fucking hell, this quest. At least I earn a fuckload of baux

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278136
Never went there once. Always hit the whirlpools.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278139
Put a fucking CAV, that will make you avoid the whirlpool

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278140
Oh yeah, I guess I'm retarded. Didn't notice the J->K thing didn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

What do I do with massive stockpiles of ammo? Its double the reserves of all my other resources combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278145
10/10/300/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278145
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278145
LSC, equipment crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

Get a hotel if you don't have her, then sortie her.

That should get rid of your extra ammo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278146

It happened naturally

fuel & steel used for repairs
Bauxite for carriers

even in LSC ammo is used less than the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278151

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278146
Just started this game a week ago, holy shit I was so happy when I had 3k/3k/3k/3k and could try and craft Shoukaku (I got a 2nd Akagi lmao)
How the fuck do you manage to get 1400 buckets and 100k resources, its not like being higher level gives you more money (at least I haven't read anything that would imply it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
Getting 100k is incredibly easy even if you sortie somewhat often. Just need to learn what to do and have the required stuff for expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278164

But... don't sorties lose you ammo/fuel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278165
Sub are here for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

): I've got a friend (TTK level ~40) who won't stop spamming me with images of ships or items he gets, such as his four AP shells zzz. What do I do? It's getting really annoying hearing about him and how he always leaves the 4-4 boss with under 10% health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
Four fleets mean thrice the expeditions, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159

Expeditions, it took me too long to unlock ex 37 and 38 if I had done it sooner, I'd probably would probably above 200k right now.

Well, also when you have a lot of high level ships, good equipment and you aren't ranking, the stuff just piles up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278165
As long as you don't sortie shit like 4BB 2CV often fuel and ammo can still go up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
You can earn at least ~5k of fuel, ammo and steel and 3k of bauxite per day easily, and that's without natural regen. You can get even more if you sparkle your girls. Buckets accumulate over time if you sortie rarely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278170
Time to break up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
It accrues over time. Last time I reset it was after the last event when I went on a Yamato crafting spree. Since that, I only did some light leveling for kai2s (got them all by now) and expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278170
Dress up as his favorite ship girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278173

about that......

[Anonymous No.]

Ryuuhou is useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278174
If you earn that much, natural regen will be gone within days

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278170

Here, took this.

Now go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278180
She is cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278179
You should never do that at your level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278185

Whys that? Besides the resource drain, obviously
What should I be doing than?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278180

Nah, you just suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278184
True, but she should stop getting crited so often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278189
I said Ryuuhou, not Ryuuhou kai.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12277977
Check logbook settings and determine whether it is using the correct port number.
Make sure your computer firewall doesn't interfere with KCV-logbook connection.

>>12278164
You say it like it will be easy for him to attain 100k resources in short amount of time.

>>12278189
>第1艦隊
Anon, pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278187
Tailor your fleet to the map. There's a whole wiki devoted to game where you can find everything you need.

>>12278189
Can she do that in a fleet of actual ships?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know why mt script just threw this error at me?
[Spoiler][error] script [ kancolle_auto ] stopped with error in line 128
[error] FindFailed ( can not find decision.png on the screen. )
[error] --- Traceback --- error source first line: module ( function ) statement 50: main ( shutsugeki ) click("decision.png")
115: main ( main ) running_ensei_list += shutsugeki()
[error] --- Traceback --- end --------------
[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
You can get 1,5 to 2 times more resources by sortieing efficient expeditions. Sparkling will increase it by another one and half. Higher TTK level=more time played=more resources stacked over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278201
Fuck off already, noone cares about your scripting

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278199

I can't think of a good name for my fleet.

>>12278200

I was thinking about trying 5-5 with 3 BB 2 CV 1 CVL and taking her, I'll do that after the event since I won't have too much to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278199
>>第1艦隊
How many people have changed it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278205
>trying 5-5 with 3 BB 2 CV 1 CVL and taking her
Good luck. I'm genuinely curious if she can pull her own weight reliably.

>>12278206
Mine's pretty bland.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278199
A mounth sounds pretty short to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus christ what is wrong with this place right now, it's full summer mode

I mean just look at this jackass >>12278201

Is that fucking forum with huge signatures raiding us

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278202
How'd he reach June 34? I could use a few more days in my months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278212
The only one in this mode is you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278206
I change it when I tackle event maps. 鼠輸送 for fall, ウェーク島攻略部隊 for spring. Usually it's stock though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278213
Try reading 346 aloud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278220
I'm impressed by this dedication. My immersion is still lacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278220
That reminds me, 6-ship set is squadron or fleet? 部隊 or 艦隊?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278221
I want to punch you in the fucking stomach right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>12277831

NPe, when you work at a restaurant kitchen there is no time to breath. Also, my phone is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278225
Nah, it's not really about immersion. It was one of many placebo I tried during E4 back then, and it might have worked. Among many other placebos.
>>12278226
I don't know, so I rolled with 部隊.

[Anonymous No.]

I believe 艦隊is used for the overall force. Not the entire navy, but more specific groups like the first air fleet. Within that you have the 5 部隊, first through fifth cardivs. So in the game, you can pretty much use whichever one and it'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

What's more recommended, following the basic recipe section for equipment or the additional recipe that's more specific?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278201

Change the game resolution to native and set flash quality to high

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278242

Check the japanese wikia for recipes. It's way better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278240
>>12278226
I think that 艦隊 is used when a capital BB is sent out, whereas 部隊 is used for everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278247
already did that. I just watched it again and it gave me
[error] script [ kancolle_auto ] stopped with error in line 123
[error] FindFailed ( can not find ensei_area_01.png on the screen. )
[error] --- Traceback --- error source first line: module ( function ) statement 46: main ( shutsugeki ) click(ensei.area_pict)
115: main ( main ) running_ensei_list += shutsugeki()
108: main ( init ) main()
[error] --- Traceback --- end --------------
after results screen resupply and getting to the expedition selection screen. It works when given fleets to resupply but it looks like accepting expedition results is what's tripping it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278242
Ignore the English wiki, it's awful. The JP wiki has much better info.

[Anonymous No.]

Derp

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278269

That's Tone Kai Ni for you. Though I love Wagahai I must say that compared to Tone Class "The Rock" Chikuma (Whom I've seen doing such great deeds that not even Homer could sing) Tone is is made of paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278257

Are you using a browser to play the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278259

b-but I can't read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278298
You don't need any. Grab Rikaichan or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278285
KCV, it can't even find the game when I put the api into a browser

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278312
Post your API here to see if thats the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278313
http://203.104.209.39/kcs/mainD2.swf?api_token=491g6698e0t4ou5t3365f91a28330gg57o4t49&api_starttime=1756556565565

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323
....... You might want to change it immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278328
But why change it? It looks good.
The problem is probably somewhere else

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278328
Get out faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323
HA

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323
I don't see any problems with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278328
You might want to check your eyesight immediately. How can you even type when you're blind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323

CHANGGE THAT SHIT NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278313

The hell is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278350
The API could be a problem if you're scripting but it looks good so the issue lies somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323

run and change you API link, otherwise, anyone that uses that on a browser will get access to your account. And believe me, the guy that suggested posting it isn't up fr good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278353

don't bullshit me, there is no need for an API link and if it were, nobody should share the API link with anyone not trusted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278357
You dont trust /jp/? But we're your friends.
Your only friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278328>>12278348>>12278354
Please go to whatever shithole you crawled from and never return. Not a single /jp/ native can be this mentally handicapped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278364
My first instinct was to check for hidden messages in the link. Am I a truJPer yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278364
They probably came from /a/.
>>12278370
Yes, I'm proud of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278370
Not yet, you still have ways to go. Though you're on a right track.

[Anonymous No.]

Carriers are underrated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278249
>>12278259

Eh, it's pretty difficult to read it properly, mostly which secretary you need for efficient bauxite spending for Reppus. Which CV would you recommend for Reppu/Ryuusei

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278405
Stop asking people to recommend you placebo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278416
fine, geez

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278457
>>12278416
Find your closest sibbling or sibbling like person and give them a piggy back ride while entering the result

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278474
Drunkposting again Jun'you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278476
it's how I got my type 3 ammo for the winter event

[Anonymous No.]

>kanmusu sometimes come play on it
Did anyone take a screenshot of that already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278591
Isn't that just flavor text?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god, Kuroshio's idle line, I'm dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278602
Seems like it just changes from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278159
A lot of people dont play anymore and just wait for event.
PVP doesnt use much resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278602
I posted >>12277869 earlier, this is after a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>12276141

Di the script kept working for you after the first expedition ended?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278648
Nope. It resupplies my fleet, goes to the expedition selection and then crashes saying it can't find the confirmation button.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck.

I finally got Kancolle to work on my phone, as If I wasn't addicted enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278962
Enjoy your ban

[Anonymous No.]

My ranking reward came in.

[Anonymous No.]

Perhaps complaining about how complaining about not getting Maikaze wasn't helping helped. Pretty meta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278206
神艦隊

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278622
Neat. Any effects for the fireworks window?

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12278206
More than a quarter of the screenshot posted here have custom fleet name, especially when an event is underway.
Sometimes it serves as a comment for the sortie.

>>12278970
RNGoddess is a fickle mistress.
Whaling operation produce nothing, only common ships. And then suddenly i was rewarded with Maikaze and Taigei while searching for Hiryuu in 3-3 and 3-4. A week later, i'm still searching for Hiryuu.

>>12279012
Nice, but too short. I almost missed it.
If only someone could mod it and make it run for an hour, it would look like an enemy air raid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279029
What if anything triggers the fireworks? Or do you just have to wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279029
Maybe they just name them because they want to take screenshots later?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278970
Nice star.

[Anonymous No.]

After getting frustrated on not being able to reach boss node on 1-5(cvl/bbv/cl/cl) I went and lost chitose trying to clear 2-1. I thought having ashigara and yamashiro would let me get away with anything. Please humiliate me so that I may weep in shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279162
>After getting frustrated on not being able to reach boss node on 1-5
>(cvl/bbv/cl/cl)
Why didn't you use a DD instead of another CL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279162
>(cvl/bbv/cl/cl)
You only have yourself to blame.
Red the wiki better next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279166
Oh disregard. I guess 2 CL works too. Been used to using BBV CVL DD and CL

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323
Dude do you even read the wiki and what they tell you not to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279171
get out faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278313

[Anonymous No.]

>>12278323

wow not a smart thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

It's like every crossboarder decided to showcase their retardation all at once today.

I almost want yesterday's /pol/tards back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279181
Getting fucking raided by the most summer-shit age demographic forum signature shitcunts buddy

Just look at how bad the engrish is in some of these posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279181
This is what you get for liking chinese computer games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279181
> I almost want yesterday's /pol/tards back.
I'll pick mentally handicapped over /pol/tards any time. At least I can somewhat ignore the former.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279181
Go away /pol/tard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279162
Yamasiro's not a BBV until kai

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279220
It's a lot easier to ignore poltards with their rambling 300 page posts

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized that the ID of my Yukikaze is 777.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12279247
And my Shimakaze is 7.