Kantai Collection — KanColle

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https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
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Terrible OP pic.

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>>12266264

I like it.

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>>12266271

Epic.

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Who is your favorite Kuma class, /jp/?

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>>12266272
:^)

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>>12266275
Nice.

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>>12266274
Kuma and Tama.

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>>12266274
Kuma

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>>12266274
Kiso.
On a semi-related note, I hope they'll add more ships with chuuni personalities.

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>>12266290
who is on the bottom left?

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>>12266300
Hiyou.

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>>12266274
Kuma.

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>>12266274
Tama and Kiso

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No love for Kitakami? I'm kind of surprised.

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>>12266327
She's a bully.

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>>12266274

The coolest.

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>>12266327
Not that I don't like Kitakami, it's just Kuma is more adorable.

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Let's do our best this week as well!

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>>12266356
When can I send you to the chop shop?

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>>12266356
Alright.

Anyone want to see me clear all of this week's quests by Tuesday? Except the PvP one which needs until Wednesday morning to clear.

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>>12266359
The answer's Midway. As usual.

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>>12266361
Do it!

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>>12266361
Rushing is pointless.

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>>12266365
It's fun.

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>>12266368
Doing them in last 5 hours before week reset is more fun.

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>>12266380
That's just stressful.

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>>12266388
It's far more fun for me though.

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Why go out of your way to do weeklies, anyway? The expedition and PvP ones complete themselves, so I'll grant you these, and I guess the crafting one is worth the five minutes you spend on it, but the rest just aren't worth bothering.

Sitting on a pile of resources and buckets isn't all that fun, and besides if you have 50k resources with the proper equipment you're more than ready to tackle Midway.

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>>12266408
You're disgusting, lazy poorfag ttk.

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>>12266408
Because I like sortieing my girls.

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>>12266408
>go out of your way
Well, if sortieing on battle maps is that much a hassle for you then sure, no reason to bother at all. But some people like to sortie. Sometimes even without subs.

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I like Takao more than Atago. How about you?

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>>12266438
Nobody actually likes Atago.

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>>12266408
It gives a good reason to sortie your girls and level them without grinding at a single map.

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>>12266438
Maya the best.

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>>12266438
Takao is for these who like kind but serious elder sisters. Atago is for these who like flirtatious, airheaded elder sisters. Maya is for these who like tomboyish, teasing elder sisters. Choukai is for these who like studious, well-mannered elder sisters.

I'm in the last category.

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>>12266423
That is a good point. To each his own, I guess.

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>>12266438
I like Takao, too!

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>>12266452
My brother.

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>>12266452
What about wagahai?

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>>12266478

He's only talking about Takao class, but wagahai is such a cutie.

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>>12266478
Tone is for these who like the energetic, headstrong type, while Chikuma is for these who like the gentle and accepting type.

That is the beauty of CAs, they are the perfect elder sisters no matter where your tastes lie.

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>>12266452
> elder sisters
They are all high school students, that's not how elder sisters work.

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>>12266494
>They are all high school students
Citation needed.

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>>12266438
I don't agree but I respect your choice.

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>>12266492
Furutaka and Kako?

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>>12266494
>you cant be an elder sister if you're in highschool

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>>12266494
what

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>>12266452

What about sweet, dependable and playful elder sister?

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>>12266499
Destroyers are elementary school students, light cruisers are middle school students, heavy cruisers are high school students. That's how it worked last time.
>>12266504
Don't forget about Mogami-class too. Kumano&Suzuya are cute.

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>>12266512
>dependable
Nobody depends on her.

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>>12266512
Kinugasa doesn't get nowhere enough love.

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>>12266514
Except Shigure and Yuudachi are visibly older than elementary students. Tatsuta is definitely not a middle schooler. Atago and Takao are certainly older.

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>>12266494
They are ships and therefore have at least a couple of decades on you, plus it is very well possible that the admiral is a fairy, like every other human stand-in we've seen. They're elder sisters alright.

>>12266504
Kako is frank and relaxed while Furutaka is responsible and hardworking, or at least that is how they strike me.

>>12266512
Kinugasa is love. It is a wonder that people are dissing her and Isuzu for having weak second remodels. Caring about stats rather than personality really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

There are no sub-par ships. They are all good girls and deserving of love.

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>>12266525
>There are no sub-par ships.

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>>12266525
>Kinugasa is love. It is a wonder that people are dissing her and Isuzu for having weak second remodels. Caring about stats rather than personality really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Well, she might be cute but there's cuter and more useful when it comes to CA/CAV.

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>>12266530
http://exhentai.org/s/ca97d40639/691209-4

Riposte.

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>>12266534
And she's pretty rare.

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>>12266525
> weak second remodels.
CLAAs were historically useless shit though and Kinugasa was an outdated design. People should learn their history.

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>>12266535
She's cute but she has no use.

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>>12266540
>historically
This game isn't historically accurate and you know it.

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>>12266540
>>12266525
>It is a wonder that people are dissing her and Isuzu for having weak second remodels.

That didn't stop me.

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>>12266516
I do, she's good enough where I need CA. She's also very cute.

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>>12266512
But Kinugasa is no elder sister, she is already a grandma.

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>>12266543
That's no reason not to try to be.

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>>12266545
You are a good man.

>>12266540
Mutsuki-class was obsolete by WWII too but you don't see anyone calling them horrid. Besides, in-game they're both good ships on their own right.

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>>12266530
>great ASW equipment
>Daihatsu
>subpar
It's your fault that you rob her of her equipment, not hers

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>>12266553
> you don't see anyone calling them horrid.
Because nobody but that one Kikuzuki(?) faggot uses them as combat ships.

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>>12266553
>Mutsuki-class was obsolete by WWII too but you don't see anyone calling them horrid. Besides, in-game they're both good ships on their own right.
Are you drunk?

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>>12266452
>>12266525
>>12266492
Anon, you are giving me a language arts boner, please don't stop with the descriptions.

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GERMANY WINS

BISMARCK TIME

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>>12266523
Maybe in their last year of elementary school. And Tenryuu class develop quite fast too; Tenryuu and Kiso can be said to have chuuni tendencies too. And considering chuuni literally means "middle school second grade"...

>>12266525
What about Aoba and Mogami-class?

>Kinugasa is love. It is a wonder that people are dissing her and Isuzu for having weak second remodels. Caring about stats rather than personality really leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
I'll give you Kinugasa but Isuzu's second remodel wasn't at all weak, not when it first came out anyway. She just suffered from power creep when stronger 2nd remodels came out.

>>12266538
Not really.

>>12266549
Nah, the grandma is Kongou, the oldest member of the fleet.

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>>12266591
So it seems like that boy's dad struck gold when he bet everything on Germany...

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>>12266550
All your ships accomplish jack shit, you run out of resources, lose air superiority cry every time and then all your ships sink.

10/10 would reenact.

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>>12266593
Shigure just turned 79 this year.

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>>12266601
I mean their visible appearance.

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>>12266603
She had a healthy diet and took care of her body.

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>>12266591
Time to set Bismarck as my flag ship for a day.

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>>12266604
Nowadays it's not uncommon for 10 year old girls to look like that, actually.

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>>12266593
> power creep when stronger 2nd remodels came out.
Those 2nd remodels are still weaker then Kuma.
>>12266599
> All your ships accomplish jack shit, you run out of resources, lose air superiority cry every time and then all your ships sink.
It's piss easy to change this if you play your cards right though.

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>>12266616
>It's piss easy to change this if you play your cards right though.
You run out of aviators, then you run out of oil, then you lose.

Imagine if every time you had to do an expedition half your ships randomly sank to enemy subs, who wouldn't sink even if you ran BB + 5x CL with full ASW attached.

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>>12266616
Isuzu Kai 2 was mainly used for ASW purposes when she first came out. While you usually don't use CLs for AA duty, she also had high AA as well.

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>>12266616
Please elaborate. My Asian supremacist hard-on must be satisfied.

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>>12266616
>>12266619
>>12266628
Time to snuggle up in our armchairs

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>>12266619
You keep forgetting that you start with:
1) ships;
2) planes;
3) pilots
4) ship crews
that are best in the world. The only sub-par thing you start with is infantry, and the only shit thing you start with is your high command. Since in this game there is no infantry, and you play the role of high command, you are left with cream of the crop stuff. With which you can easily dominate by playing your cards right, as I said.

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1-5 gives a crapload of HQ exp. As a new player, does this matter at all, or can I just keep spamming it for easy levels/ships?

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>>12266641
How many 46cm/Reppu/resource you have right now?

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>>12266642
None and none.

Resources: 2.6k/3.9k/1.2k/3.5k

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>>12266636
>ships
Fantastic surface weapons and torpedoes. That and fifty cents will buy you one bullet. Try investing in some anti-aircraft and ASW that's worth a shit. Radar and communications might be good, too.

>planes
Lightweight aces that dominate the skies until they are dissected and their weaknesses are found.

>pilots
>ship crews
How are they any better than the infantry? Just because they drill and eat shit all day doesn't mean they're actually the best.

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>>12266641
What HQ level?

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>>12266649

Well shit, you're fucked.

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>>12266636
>ships
Outdated and poorly built radar in small quantities damaged their ability to function. Poor protection against planes
>planes
Debatable. While they were incredibly maneuverable and outranged their contemporaries, the A6M was also slow, underarmed and underarmored even compared to early-war planes such as the P-40.
>pilots
I hope your explanation doesn't involve staying out of China. You underestimate the IJA as well.
>ship crews
inexperienced. China fought few actions against Japan on the seas, so Japanese seamen were no more experienced than their US counterparts.

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>>12266649
>>12266651
14. I thought I was level 12 before I ran 1-5 past the boss node but that seems a bit extreme.

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>>12266656
Why are you caring about thee things when you're only lv12.
Farm it all you want.

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>>12266641
As long as you make sure your BB/CV are a decent level then it won't matter, but if you want to play it safe it might be good to stay under certain checkpoints (80, 100) considering an event is coming fairly soon.

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>>12266657
Mostly because the people around my level in PvP have fleets full of battleships while I can barely afford to build a second.

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>>12266656
At this level, you should enjoy the game however you like. Half a year down the line, you'll look back fondly at your first few days of the game, when every new ship made you happy and you felt like your DD/CL fleet could take on the world.

You should make the best of this time before you become a jaded, paranoid resource hoarder like the rest of us.

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>>12266664
I got to 2-4 with it before I gave up, I didn't have faith.

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>>12266441
Well I think I'm one of the few who does.

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>>12266441
Speak for yourself.

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>>12266682
>>12266694
Her personality or her body?

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>>12266703
I'll take both, thank you.

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>>12266703
I like her personality. Too tittymonster for me.

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>>12266650
>>12266654
> radar
Until around middle of '43 it wasn't that a huge deal breaker. Excellent optical rangefiners would do the trick until that point, and if by that point you haven't won you'll lose either way. Subs are tools of war of atraction, they would not stop blitzkrieg.
> planes
Both Hayabusa&Zero were a huge shock and it took nearly half a year to completely shake off fear of fighting them, and they remained highly effective, again, till '43. Lack of dedicated interceptor wouldn't be that huge a deal in blitzkrieg scenario.
> pilots
They had a lot of live experience in China, in addition to constant drills. Mind you, I'm not talking just about carrier air groups.
> ship crew
What really sets them apart is extensive night battle training. Tanaka showed that slaughtering stuff at night is IJN's forte, too bad by that point radars were starting to change this.

IJN had all the right tools to blitzkrieg and force allies to accept defeat before running out of stuff. Shame that they never used them to their full potential.

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>>12266703
Everything about her.

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>>12266703
I still don't understand what exchanging hats she's implying at her marriage lines.

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>>12266709
>Until around middle of '43 it wasn't that a huge deal breaker.
it hampered their ability to detect and catch both fleeing and approaching opponents well-before that.
>Both Hayabusa&Zero were a huge shock and it took nearly half a year to completely shake off fear of fighting them, and they remained highly effective, again, till '43.
The Flying Tigers had obviously figured it out by 1942 at the very latest given they had a 70:1 kill ratio--with P-40s, no less, against both Zeroes and Hayabusa.
>They had a lot of live experience in China, in addition to constant drills.
Those were the only ones who had any real dogfighting experience, and they still performed horrifically against fresh American volunteers after four years of free reign basically bombing whoever they wanted all over china.
>What really sets them apart is extensive night battle training.
They lost just as much in night battles (Savo 2nd, Guadalcanal, Empress Augusta Bay, Surigao Strait) as they won (Savo 4th, ABDA campaign, Kolombangara), despite their training.

>IJN had all the right tools to blitzkrieg and force allies to accept defeat before running out of stuff.
That's what the IJN thought, and they were evidently wrong about it.

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>>12266723
Symbol of the special bond that the two of you share perhaps? An admiral's hat is entitled to the bearer after all and so does her hat so swapping them can be something special.
I actually find it cute.

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>>12266723
Swapping hats is fun. She isn't implying shit.

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>>12266730
>against both Zeroes and Hayabusa.
Nope. The reason why they scored so well against the Japanese during that time was most of the foes they fought were flying Nates, which were inferior to the P-40s, plus the pilots flying them weren't as well trained as the Japanese carrier pilots.

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>>12266709
>they would not stop blitzkrieg
And what the fuck exactly are you going to be blitzkrieging? Going to take over Australia? Hawaii? Maybe march the IJA into San Francisco?

>IJN had all the right tools to blitzkrieg and force allies to accept defeat before running out of stuff.
Everybody on both sides of the Pacific knew that once US got the machine up and running they were going to shit out fully loaded aircraft carriers faster than Japan could build destroyers. They weren't going to surrender anytime soon. The real wonder is why the Japanese thought it would work.

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>>12266730

>it hampered their ability to detect and catch both fleeing and approaching opponents well-before that.

It was on 1943 when the first radar assisted firing were introduced on american ships.

>The Flying Tigers had obviously figured it out by 1942 at the very latest given they had a 70:1 kill ratio--with P-40s, no less, against both Zeroes and Hayabusa.

the Zeroes were an extraordinary plane that outmatched any other ally plane until 1942 and even until the end of the war, it could be a great plane on the right hands. The main problem for the japanese were the lack of trained pilots and their utterly inexistent training progams.

>Those were the only ones who had any real dogfighting experience, and they still performed horrifically against fresh American volunteers after four years of free reign basically bombing whoever they wanted all over china.

The performed excellently against the american pilots until those discovered the flaws of the Zeros and use then against it. Zeros had no protection for the pilot and fuel tanks so even the minor hit would kill the pilot or make the plane burst into flames. In exchange the Zeros had unmmatched manouverability, incredible range and great speed.

What american pilots discovered that, instead of engaging on dogfights with the Zeros, they would descend and then attack then from below to make the fuel tanks explode. Another tactic was luring a japanese pilot to attack one plane and then another would get on his tail.

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>>12266740
>Nope. The reason why they scored so well against the Japanese during that time was most of the foes they fought were flying Nates, which were inferior to the P-40s, plus the pilots flying them weren't as well trained as the Japanese carrier pilots.
m8 now you're clearly pulling things out of your ass
>Reinforced by new P-40E "Kittyhawks" and by repaired aircraft from the AVG's excellent maintenance group, 12 P-40s were based at Loiwing on 8 April. Despite the long retreats, their losses and incessant air combat, the AVG still retained their abilities. That day, 12 Oscars from the 64th Sentai raided the base. In the ensuing series of dogfights, four Ki-43s were downed in exchange for one P-40E destroyed on the ground
>The Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa (隼, "Peregrine Falcon") was a single-engine land-based tactical fighter used by the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force in World War II.
It didn't meet the A6M for the sheer reason that they were fighting the army. However, the Australian 75th Squadron

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>>12266763
http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/A/m/American_Volunteer_Group.htm
>They scored well against the Japanese Army pilots, who were flying inferior Nates and were not as superbly trained as their Navy counterparts in the Pacific
m8 I think you need to stop using Wikipedia as the sole source. And the Oscars they fought weren't as many compared to the Nates they encountered.

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>>12266772
>The AVG's P-40s were superior to the JAAF's Ki-27s, but the group's kill ratio against modern Ki-43s was still in its favor.
m8 I think you should stop using a single website as the sole source. They still performed perfectly well against your dear Oscars, as early as December 1941.

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>>12266636
Nobody gives a shit what you start with if you can't continue. Japan's marginal advantage in material was unsustainable and everyone knew it. Even the Japanese knew it. They were in the middle of trying to modernize their military when some retards went off and started WWII.

You can't force America to quit when America knows very fucking well that you're about to run out of mana.

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>>12266776
They did score against Oscars, it's just that the majority of their scores were against inferior Nates.
And I would trust that site more than the wiki.

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>>12266761
>It was on 1943 when the first radar assisted firing were introduced on american ships.
And I'm sure American Radar detection of the Japanese at Guadalcanal played no role.
>the Zeroes were an extraordinary plane that outmatched any other ally plane until 1942 and even until the end of the war, it could be a great plane on the right hands.
Again, P-40s performed perfectly well against their army equivalents (then the most experienced of Japan's pilots in terms of actual aerial combat), and the Australian 75th squadron performed perfectly well against bombers escorted by Zeroes as early as February 1942, which isn't saying much for the Zeroes given the war only started three months previously.

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>>12266787
>They did score against Oscars, it's just that the majority of their scores were against inferior Nates.
That's wonderful, but it doesn't change anything to change my point that Americans on P-40s had figured out how to defeat KI-43's as early as late 1941, long before your claim of "half a year to completely shake off fear of fighting them," and did so consistently.
>I would trust that site more than the wiki.
Given your site didn't mention anything about KI-43's when every other source mentions them, it is either incomplete or deliberately ignorant, neither of which says much for its reliability compared to a wiki under consistent review.

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Japan could have won the war if they had executed all of the recommendations I am making circa 1939:

- stop treating Chinese and other conquered Asians as slave labor
- execute insubordinate officers, no more of this retarded gekokujou shit
- on the flip side, encourage more tactics-level innovation and talk-back among field officers
- more emphasis on military intelligence and cryptography (don't lose zeroes, change the fucking code)
- find yourself a larger initial complement of trained aviators
- construct a military culture that values results over glory
-- more focus on making your logistics actually fucking work
-- more focus on industrial R&D (anti-aircraft, radar, sonar, and depth charges) instead of trusting in sweat and blood
-- more focus on preserving the lives of aviators, soldiers, and sailors alike, especially experts

That's all I can think of for the time being.

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>>12266808
That's because the Oscars came into the scene quite late. By the time it was seeing widespread use, the AVG was already on the run. And while Oscars did see combat against the AVG, they were in sporadic numbers, and in some instances, also had Nates with them. If you also look at the scores, the number of Nates shot down was greater than the number of Oscars shot down. The P-40s though had greater armor and armament than the Oscar, only that it was slower.
When I read teh citations though, it focused heavily on the beginning and the middle of the conflicts the AVG went into. By the time Oscars started appearing, it was near the end of AVG.

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>>12266832
>- stop treating Chinese and other conquered Asians as slave labor
Nice try, chink.

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>>12266837
>That's because the Oscars came into the scene quite late. By the time it was seeing widespread use, the AVG was already on the run.
And somehow the AVG being on the run helps explain why the Oscars were consistently defeated?
>If you also look at the scores, the number of Nates shot down was greater than the number of Oscars shot down.
Yes, but that has no standing on your argument whatsoever. You were arguing that Americans were incapable of dealing with KI-43's until they had "half a year to completely shake off fear of fighting them." Since the first recorded victory over a KI-43 was on February this is clearly patently false, and the AVG's kill record against the KI-43 alone (still very good) clearly demonstrates this was not a fluke.
>By the time Oscars started appearing, it was near the end of AVG.
>On 25 December, the JAAF returned, reinforced by Ki-21s of 12th Sentai and Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscars) of the 64th Sentai (Colonel Tateo Katō's Flying Squadron)...Ten Japanese aircraft were lost in the resulting battle: two Ki-43s...
The End of the AVG was in July 1942, how is December 1941 "near the end of AVG"?

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>>12266847
>Nice try, chink.
It's common fucking sense and what the Japanese Foreign Ministry had tried to do before the military completely gutted any chance of Japan had of winning WWII. You're already going to fight the US of fucking A, you don't need to fight half a billion saboteurs on top of that.

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It's now or never.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope they'll increase her craft rate.

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>>12266857
I got her the night of the semis, god bless impulsive LSC.

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>>12266832
>- stop treating Chinese and other conquered Asians as slave labor
I can guarantee you Mao would not have accepted Japanese rule in the countryside, and Chiang had already resolved to fight to the end after 1937.
>- execute insubordinate officers, no more of this retarded gekokujou shit
That's exactly what the Kempeitai did. Complete suppression of dissent and a martial system in which the CO was free to abuse his soldiers eroded the reliability of Japanese units, not support them. If you mean preventing Banzai charges, executing men who are already resolved to die does little.
>- find yourself a larger initial complement of trained aviators
You don't "find" these things, you train them, and with Japan's experience the best they could have done was rotate IJA pilots over to teh IJN (at the risk of losing air superiority in China).
>- construct a military culture that values results over glory
If you can travel in time all the way to the birth of the Samurai as a social class I guarantee you there's a lot more you can do to change Japan's military culture.
>-- more focus on making your logistics actually fucking work
They worked as well as they could in the middle of hte pacific islands until they lost control of the seas
>-- more focus on industrial R&D (anti-aircraft, radar, sonar, and depth charges) instead of trusting in sweat and blood
Japan's issue was that its electronics industry, infrastructure and supply of natural resources simply didn't allow them to produce their dream productions in any real number.
>-- more focus on preserving the lives of aviators, soldiers, and sailors alike, especially experts
This I can agree with, but American numbers (and the fact that they already did that to begin with) would have eroded Japanese supply nonetheless.

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>>12266855
What they should have done in China is to exploit Manchuria's oil reserve. Caring about the Chinese comes later, much later.

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>>12266848
No no, I wasn't arguing that the Americans can't counter the Ki-43. I'm merely pointing out that majority of the scores were against Nates, and some people think that it was the other way around. And what I meant that being on the run was they kept being pushed back due to their nearness to the enemy and the last thing you'd want an airbase to be was well within the enemy's striking range.
And I think I didn't put it clearly. By the end I mean by the time Oscars were now seeing widespread action, the AVG was near its end, judging from the numbers the AVG encountered. That means the Oscar haven't fully replaced the Nates yet and I'd fully appreciate it once the AVG started facing opponents consisting majority of Oscars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266877
Oh alright, I agree then. KI-43 still saw problems as the AVG was replaced by the 14th Air Force, but by then the US was fielding more advanced models, so a comparison would not be quite as fair.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it was necessary for Japan to lose WW2. The ultimate goal of Japan was to liberate Asia from the foreign barbarians and they succeeded with it, Hong Kong aside. However, they went a bit too far off track with what they wanted to do with the other asian countries making it necessary for them to be "contained". Plus, Japan had nothing but victories with foreign countries after the Meiji revolution, and they needed to experience a loss somewhere. Not to mention that their beyond shit economy finally got better after the post-war things ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266888
Didn't mean to drag it out like that sorry. I wanted it to look fair that while the history shows the Americans had the some of the best fighters, it's not really that fair comparing them to the Japanese, like how the Hellcat had high K/D ratio when they were already fighting against poorly trained pilots with inferior planes to boot. Though some Japanese planes were a match, or even more than a match than the most modern plane the Americans fielded that time, only fielded too late to see considerable impact.

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>>12266761
>It was on 1943 when the first radar assisted firing were introduced on american ships.
different anon here, and I'm still boggled by your implication that being behind in electronics only mattered for the purposes of shooting guns. Scouting was way more important than a lot of the XOs thought and practiced, and the IJN doing dumb shit like not bothering to launch all their recon craft before AND AFTER discovering the enemy wasn't helping either. (They were too busy sperging about switching between bombs and torps on CVs, for example.). Meanwhile the USN is able to communicate effectively across longer distances, see what's actually happening in some cases and plan effectively around them, oh and READ JAPANESE SHIPPING ACTIVITY LIKE A FUCKING BOOK due to breaking their code.

Radar would have helped as early as Coral Sea for example, for tracking losses so that command wouldn't be pissing their pants about what to with the Crane sisters afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266870
It would have helped, obviously, but you can hardly recommend that they find something they had no way of knowing existed.

>>12266862
>I can guarantee you Mao would not have accepted Japanese rule in the countryside, and Chiang had already resolved to fight to the end after 1937.
Chiang was a waffle. Half the reason he fought was because his own lieutenants put his back to the wall. But the purpose of "being nice" is not to get either of those two on your side, but to prop up the Wang regime far enough that people can even consider putting up with it.

And that's just China. The Philippines and the like would have been much easier to administrate if Japanese didn't make murder the new national sport.

>That's exactly what the Kempeitai did.
The Kempeitai was a parallel arm of the military which didn't actually prevent insubordination of ranking officers against higher-ranking officers. Yasuhiko and Yamashita had their orders openly defied by their staff officers.

>You don't "find" these things, you train them, and with Japan's experience the best they could have done was rotate IJA pilots over to teh IJN (at the risk of losing air superiority in China).
I mean they should have trained more in the pre-war days. Back then, they were super elite about who would even have been selected for training, when they should have cast a wider net.

>If you can travel in time all the way to the birth of the Samurai as a social class I guarantee you there's a lot more you can do to change Japan's military culture.
I'm aware that implementing some of these suggestions would have been impossible. Maybe even all of them.

>They worked as well as they could in the middle of hte pacific islands until they lost control of the seas
I don't mean "doing well with what they had," I mean giving it military priority on the same level as the front lines. Japan barely even looked at its balance sheets when they launched the war, they just figured shit would go fine.

(cont)

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>>12266862
>>12266986
(cont)
>Japan's issue was that its electronics industry, infrastructure and supply of natural resources simply didn't allow them to produce their dream productions in any real number.
Obviously they weren't working with good stuff, but they could have spent their limited resources far more effectively. How many 15cm AA guns (that actually work) could you have built instead of the Musashi?

>This I can agree with, but American numbers (and the fact that they already did that to begin with) would have eroded Japanese supply nonetheless.
It's true... but if you look at the attrition rates for Japanese seamen and aviators, they're fucking atrocious. Skilled crews are not that easy to come by, and when you lose 90% of them every single time a ship sinks... well, that's shit, and that's already leaving off the "fly till you die" nature of Japanese aviation.

[Anonymous No.]

To go back further up the thread, regarding the view saying "blitzkrieg" would have made radar irrelevant: regardless of which direction the IJN barreled in, their supply shipping would have been subjected to attrition from submarine attacks regardless thanks to bring spread thin and ASW task forces being bad at actually finishing subs off.

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>>12266998
Not to mention a lot of AA aboard ships was atrocious even when it was there. They really needed a higher-powered 12.7cm boomstick for the top layer and a far more robust magazine-fed 40mm cannon for the chop-chop underneath.

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>>12266986
>Half the reason he fought was because his own lieutenants put his back to the wall.
After which he never once sought a peace settlement with Japan.
>but to prop up the Wang regime far enough that people can even consider putting up with it.
The invasion of China had already inflamed Chinese sentiment since Manchuria, by 1937 that wasn't going to change any minds.
>The Philippines and the like would have been much easier to administrate if Japanese didn't make murder the new national sport.
You do recall the Phillippines fought a long, long Insurgency against the US, right? Being invaded and occupied literally a few months from independence was never going to bode very well with the Filipinos.
>Yasuhiko and Yamashita had their orders openly defied by their staff officers.
And the amount of massacres that ensued were such that a mass execution of all responsible could well lead to mutiny, and certainly would reflect badly on the empire.

>mean they should have trained more in the pre-war days. Back then, they were super elite about who would even have been selected for training, when they should have cast a wider net.
I can agree with that, but experience had a lot more to do with their early successes than simply training.
>How many 15cm AA guns (that actually work) could you have built instead of the Musashi?
True enough, but to convince the Japanese high command to not throw money into BBs that would be worthless would be nigh-impossible when the US, UK and Germany were pumping them out constantly.

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>>12267048
>After which he never once sought a peace settlement with Japan.
He was uncertain about committing to war (back when they thought war might be avoidable) even after Marco Polo had gotten started. It's true that he eventually end up committing, but those considerations were driven as much by domestic politics (if I do not fight, my regime collapses) as personal conviction.

>The invasion of China had already inflamed Chinese sentiment since Manchuria, by 1937 that wasn't going to change any minds.
It's bad and all, but at the end of the day, people can and do choose to collaborate if they feel fighting isn't worth it. Wang Jingwei wasn't some nobody, he got roped in by promises that Tokyo couldn't deliver on. You have to make collaboration a viable option if you are trying to play the long game, and it really wasn't.

>And the amount of massacres that ensued were such that a mass execution of all responsible could well lead to mutiny, and certainly would reflect badly on the empire.
You don't shoot all the men, you shoot a few officers. A lot of the bad shit that went down can be traced to specific officers. There would still be murdering in spades, of course... but assuming you actually want the Japanese to win, less is better.

>True enough, but to convince the Japanese high command to not throw money into BBs that would be worthless would be nigh-impossible when the US, UK and Germany were pumping them out constantly.
Most of the suggestions I'm making run into profound implementation problems. For example, the Tokyo Foreign Ministry saw some of this shit coming, but they couldn't override the military. And there's just no way you could rewrite army culture to make them consider both R&D and logistics as important to the war as the people fighting on the front lines.

In the end, history can only happen the way it happened. Which is why we AU it up into a world where they're all cute girls fighting monsters and actually do some winning.

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>>12267056
>In the end, history can only happen the way it happened. Which is why we AU it up into a world where they're all cute girls fighting monsters and actually do some winning.
And yet some shitheads continue to root for the monsters.

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>>12267085
They're just misunderstood. Humans were the real monster all along.

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S A Z A N A M I T I M E

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>>12267097
If Samidare wasn't such a perfect and adorable starter I definitely would have picked Sazanami.

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>>12267097

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>>12267097
Best Sazanami artist.

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>>12267108
gb2 >>/pixiv/

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>>12267097

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>>12267097
Why does no one like her?

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>>12267153
She is the best of her class.

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>>12267154
Did you forget Ushio's breasts?

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>>12267153
bad, or very rough-hewn art, even more so than early kuro kuro

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>>12267161
It's pretty much the same for Akebono and Ushio and yet they're popular.

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>>12267153
People don't like her whole class in general because all the ones who aren't Ushio are basically the same character in different modes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267168
They're all very different. And she should at least have the starter appeal.

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>>12267170
Oboro = Oboro
Akebono = tsun Oboro
Sazanami = dere Oboro
Ushio = autistic

Honestly, if I got to know them better, I'd be able to appreciate the differences more, but... really, their voice acting is some of the least differentiated in the series, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267160
Too big, not a fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267160
10/10 would be a proud father of, and any guy who wants to date her must have a college degree.

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>>12267168
I like their art, even if it looks oddly different from everybody else. I like the thick lines, and Ushio has cute stickers on her stuff, gosh.

Too bad that artist is relegated to drawing fairies only now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267172
>really, their voice acting is some of the least differentiated in the series, I think.
True, but at least the voice is good.

And Imuya and co's voice actor is the worst offender of this.

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>>12267182
I do too. Akebono is almost (not)marriageable in my fleet, but I never really leveled up her sisters because I couldn't shake the feeling that they all had the same voice.

>>12267183
Yeah, she has that a bit, but Imuya's voice is my favorite in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267160
The appeal of a dd with big armor' just to big, but I like her only in fanarts, the titkaze duo are my favourites right now; cant beat beautiful design of those two agaisnt just a pair of lethal weapons

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267188
Aren't most of the seiyuu still green? Except for Aya Endo whom DMM probably spent big bucks on, or used Kadokawa to get connections.

They have to start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how the first thing Zuiho greets me with is moaning like a slut.

[Anonymous No.]

http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/84063.htm

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>>12267215

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>>12267250
This artist is the pinnacle of (good) autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267200
>Nao Touyama
>Yuka Iguchi
>Rina Hidaka
>Ayane Sakura
>Ayana Taketatsu
>green

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267304
They're certainly not as green as your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267305
He posted everything right. Quoting people's names and a part of your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267313
m8 I think you're missing the joke here.

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>>12267319
I realized the irony after I submitted my post and figured it was about 50/50 whether the first reply would be a comment about greentexting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267363
You're not me but you nailed it.

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>>12267192
>The appeal of a dd with big armor' just to big
Where's the opposite to that, though? A flat-chested BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267412
How I hope they will make one, Need it now!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267412
>>12267414
Yeah Im waiting for one too, still, i think we need more ship girls with good rear armor too, hiyou's updated art its just too delicious, nagara's bloomers, taihou's spats, whale's tail, anyone else am i forgetting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267423
Do you like the despair derriere? I like it.

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>>12266255
It seems I have very little fuel and ammo but a lot of steel and bauxite. If this is normal is there a way to exchange these consumables?

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>>12267472
It is normal if you sortie actively.

If you want to recover, do fuel and ammo-heavy expeditions. The drum ones if they are unlocked, 5-9-13 if they aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267472
>is there a way to exchange these consumables?
LSC will fix your resource unbalance problem.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does this have merchandise in the US but the game is still in Japanese?

There were a lot of them at a convention in America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267536
ｂａｋａｇａｉｊｉｎ　ｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267536
Because money cannot be racist. Only people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267153
Her personality is okay, but her shitty art and similar voice to her sister ships gives me little reason to keep her in my fleet.

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>>12267809
People like you are the ones that power-grind ships they didn't like before they got a Kai 2. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

This is bad

I've been stocking up so much that my rank points have lowered to hell

I see non 100's in my pvp list now

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>>12267875
What's wrong with leveling useful ships?

People like you are the ones that prize loyalty at the expense of your fleet's efficiency. Grinding an eternally weak ship based on sentiment is fine and all, but is it worth diverting all that EXP for a ship that won't carry you through crucial sorties?

And why not both? Why force a dichotomy of "you liked it before Kai 2, you're good" and "you liked it after Kai 2, you're shit"? Why can't I slowly level a ship I like but with no chance for a Kai 2 while grinding a potentially useful ship? And why can't I grow fond of the latter ship while grinding her? Besides, Kai 2 is arbitrary shit decided by the devs.

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>>12267917
He sounds like those drama queens who would cry about scrapping ships for daily, but perfectly okay to just feed them to another ships.
Just ignore those them.

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>>12267920
A hypocrite, eh? Fine then, I managed to let out some steam anyway.

And personally, I haven't scrapped in a long time; I still can't get over the pic in >>12266359 and the rewards are too meager.

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>>12267917
> but is it worth diverting all that EXP for a ship that won't carry you through crucial sorties?
Given that you can clear events with Nishimura fleet look-alikes(just ask resident kusofag), it is worth it since they WILL carry you through crucial sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267924
Can't believe some people don't scrap. The kan kan kan sound is so beautiful.

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>>12267927
Not him, but why should I going through frustration if I can clear maps just more easily using better ships?

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>>12267917
>Grinding an eternally weak ship based on sentiment is fine and all, but is it worth diverting all that EXP for a ship that won't carry you through crucial sorties?
Not all those kai2s will carry you anyway.
>And why not both? Why force a dichotomy of "you liked it before Kai 2
I guess it's because there's less love if you like a ship only because it's useful.

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>>12267917
EXP isn't really a rare and limited resource, and you can get any ship to 99 by just doing your daily PVPs between 2 events.

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>>12267930
Kancolle is still a game.
And some people play game following their own set of rules to make it more interesting, fun, or whatever, it's just personal taste.
The problems come from those retards who would try to apply their own personal rules to another and tell them they should follow their examples.

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>>12267932
NOT WHEN JACKASSES PUT LOW LEVEL AKASHIS

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>>12267931
>I guess it's because there's less love if you like a ship only because it's useful.

Not him but after watching Chikuma resist 7 out of 9 cut-ins from Ta and Ri on 5-3 and seiing her one shoting a Ta and a Yamato in PvP during daytime, I'm starting to pay atention to her.

Besides, it's and admiralty, not some soap opera stage. People are valued mainly for their work and you should take every measure possible to win the war.

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>>12267938
>People are valued mainly for their work and you should take every measure possible to win the war.
Isuzu farm manga's commanding officer is that you?

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>>12267930
It depends on your definition of fun. Loosing is far more fun then actually winning after all.

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>>12267935
>I guess it's because there's less love if you like a ship only because it's useful.
So I spent my time raised a ship to kai 2, and she paid back my favor and helped me passed a hard map, but since I didn't love her before her kai 2, I aren't allowed to like her now, because she became more useful?
The whole thing is just retard.

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>>12267947
Didn't say there's no love just less. There's something great about liking "useless" ships.

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>>12267945
> Loosing is far more fun then actually winning after all.
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267954
It's called femdom anon

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>>12267954
He's not that wrong, it's the hardships that make it fun.

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>>12267950
Must be suck when your "useless" ships get kai 2 and become useful then.
>>12267954
It's fun if you are a masochist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267954
You should try playing Dwarf Fortress. Or War in the Pacific if you want ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267935
>>12267945
It's really depends on the person huh.

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>>12267957
>>12267959
It's not about masochism. After you win you rapidly loose interest to play. If you loose you start again, with new goals and more interest in playing.

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>>12267967
> After you win you rapidly loose interest to play
That's because games are made to be won. Playing for the sake of playing again and again is retarded.

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>>12267959
>Must be suck when your "useless" ships get kai 2 and become useful then.
Are you really this retarded?

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>>12267970
Different strokes for different folks.

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>>12267936
A level 35 Akashi with a second slot level 99 ship still gives more exp than a single level 99 alone.

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>>12267971
Maybe because I have hard time to understand this
> There's something great about liking "useless" ships.
psychology.
So liking useful ships isn't great?
So if that "useless" ship isn't useless anymore, then would that make it less great ?
Or maybe you just want to be a hipster and don't like useful ships.

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>>12267976
>So liking useful ships isn't great?
Just less. Don't you find it admirable when someone marries one.
>>12267976
>So if that "useless" ship isn't useless anymore, then would that make it less great ?
Of course not as long as you didn't flock to her just because she's the new hotness.
>Or maybe you just want to be a hipster and don't like useful ships.
This too but there's nothing wrong with liking useful ships.

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>>12267958
I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12267970
/tg/ would like a word with you.

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>>12267970
Then why don't you cheat to win any game? You don't script right

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>>12267976
Mind you, that's the point of view of ultra "right wing", so to speak, so I try to stat as quiet as possible in all discussions unless someone directly insults my point of view.
> So liking useful ships isn't great?
I usually assume that you use and like, let's say, popular ships purely because of their superior performance instead of personality, voice, looks. It's fine to like and use useful ships because of their personality, voice, looks, but not because of their superior performance. That's just bad taste since you never got the chance to use other girls, which you might like more.
> So if that "useless" ship isn't useless anymore, then would that make it less great
Not really, unless they screw up her appearance or personality.
> Or maybe you just want to be a hipster and don't like useful ships.
Liking and using ships purely because of their superior performance=bad. You might as well play something that's not card collection game if all you care about is "winning" the game. Especially when you can win with pretty much everything if you put in extra effort.

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>>12267927
Not when level-scaling throws elites and flagships at you.

>>12267931
>Not all those kai2s will carry you anyway.
Good point, but you never know.

>I guess it's because there's less love if you like a ship only because it's useful.
Measuring something intangible like love is a fucking joke.

>>12267932
You're right, but that alone isn't enough for grinding other ships or just leveling them up.

>>12267930
This. And draining your resources needlessly is not fun.

>>12267935
You hit it right on the head. I wish more anons were like you.

>>12267938
I used to hate Kirishima and leave her out of sorties because she seemed like a plain meganekko, but I've come to see her as a dependable and reliable ally while grinding her.

[Anonymous No.]

>Smogonfag vs Karenfag debate on Kancolle general
Stop it, you autists.

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>>12267994
>Mind you, that's the point of view of ultra "right wing", so to speak
I've never really thought of that way, actually. That's pretty funny, ranging from socialist hippie hugboxes on the left wing to a machiavellan hunger game on the right wing

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>>12267994
That love for Hatsuharu. Who is that nigga? I want hug him

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268013
It's me. Love on the first sight is a strange thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268000
Is it really that surprising for a game that's basically Pokémon + RNG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268000
Good thing Kancolle didn't have IV and EV bullshit then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268042
Wait for Shinano BB vs Shinano CV

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>>12268042
>IV and EV bullshit
The horror.
But it could make the game better.

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>>12268045
That's not comparable to the IV and EV bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268045
At most it would be like which starter has the best design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268070
Or stats

[Anonymous No.]

just saw this CM on tv. Kind of funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1iqrXtFrRI

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>>12268077

Nagamon action figure. Now,, that CM is a little embarrasing. seem like they are selling toys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268077
I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth after watching this.
Just a little bit.
Like a really small amount, but it's still there.

[Anonymous No.]

is this the wowkiller?

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>>12268165

Wrong thread and board.

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>>12268165
MoP already killed wow

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>>12268170
I thought LoL killed WoW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268167
I should have said 2hukiller

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>>12268170
Ex-wow player here

Hardcore players left due to braindead design decisions in mop, nothing felt unique casual blah blah

Casual players got turned off by "pandas" and being "cartoony" i shit you not

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>>12268180
Way to derail the thread m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268180
Yes, now make a thread about it and leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268184
Whoa, more Nagatoro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268170
MoP is by a design point of view the best expansion so far, if you disagree you don't know anything about game design.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, didn't know there's a separate board on 2chan for Kancolle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268220
slowpoke.jpg

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>>12268239
wutz dat. sunds ebin brah.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23997503

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone playing kancolle on a phone? Having trouble getting API link to load on Puffin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268275
enjoy your ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268278
Whats wrong with playing on a phone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268285
the devs specifically say it's a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268275
Pretty sure Puffin was specifically barred from accessing KanColle by the devs.

Also, enjoy your ban.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268264

CG3D coreography 5486123

Insert whatever character you want here.

Its evven worse because the guy doesn't even create kancolle insspired backgrounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268327
Well, that's good to know. Never actually worked anyway so I should be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268264

Miku Miku Dance coreography #5.486.123

Insert whatever character you want here.

Its evven worse because the guy doesn't even create kancolle insspired backgrounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268285
It's because the shitty memory in phones/tablets isn't enough, forcing them to repeatedly send requests to their servers and possibly overloading them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268330
If you tried to access your API link via Puffin, the devs know, even if you weren't able to connect.

Good chance for a ban if they decide to enforce it. Hope you're ready to start over.

[Anonymous No.]

What about using a tablet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268341
Only windows tablets

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>>12268341
Depends on the tablet OS and specs.

A legit, Windows 8 tablet like a Surface Pro should be fine, since it's running a real OS and has a decent amount of ram.

A piece of shit Android probably isn't since you'd still have to play via some shitty tablet browser that doesn't do Flash well and the amount of ram is usually awful.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got Taigei. Now off to do those two expedition quests.

How am I supposed to do my dailies the next four days with two subs? Guess it would be smart to send Maruyu with the expedition fleet so I have at least two useful subs left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268420
Why did you feel compelled to post this if you answered your own question?

[Anonymous No.]

I've been meaning to try running this on my Surface and these recent posts have inspired me. Seems to be doing fine. I'll let you know when I get banned.

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>>12268428
So you could reply to him.

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>>12268420
You don't have spare subs?

[Anonymous No.]

GOD DAMN IT

What the hell is it with Taihou Kai? They completely ruined her color scheme; I've never been so disappointed by having a ship turn to Kai before.

I didn't know they'd do this to her; I should have just kept her pre-kai...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268420
I always do my weeklies and dailies with two subs on 2-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268442
But she smiles now. And at least she doesn't have a camo pattern. It's like Musashi, you get used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268433
No, you won't get banned playing the game on a windows phone or tablet. All the potential bans we talk about are caused by android or ios.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268448

I thought you couldn't play on a windows phone, now I might get one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268448
Not sure about Windows Phone since it's a different OS, but anything running win7/8 should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268451
I think Windows phones are still on their shit list since the ram on most of them is shit.

Windows tablets that are running a full version of W8 are fine though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268442
Zuikaku and Zuihou have it much worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268462
Zuikaku looks better after remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268463
That's subjective, I don't like it one bit over her non-kai and her kai doesn't match with Shoukaku's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268442
First color scheme is always superior, damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268467
It is subjective, yeah. I like the muted colors a lot.

On an unrelated note, I didn't know anyone even realized Wakaba existed, let alone liked her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268462
> Zuihou
Not really. I like her Kai pants far more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268472
I think he just mistook them for Raiden. It happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268476
>Wakaba
>Hatsushimo
I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268472
I saw a lv143 Wakaba (not remodeled) once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268472
> On an unrelated note, I didn't know anyone even realized Wakaba existed, let alone liked her.
There was one guy bragging about spending 300 devmats to get her back after accidental scrapping few months ago here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268483
What a waste of time and devmats, he could have gotten her faster from 1-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268493
That was act of desperation IIRC, he never saw her in a full month of 1-1 sparkling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268497
That's some real bad luck then, I get all the drops from 1-1 every week from sparkling, even Kuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268497
But why Wakaba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268493
It's really annoying. I sparkle my expedition fleet quite often, it still took me more than 2 weeks to get a Hatsushimo. And the next day after I got her, there were 2 of her popped out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268500
Ask him, not me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268502
Took me over 30 2-3 runs and then 60 1-1 runs to get an Ayanami from there when I needed her because I used the only one I had left some time ago, now I get at least three every day from there, 1-5 and 2-3.

RNG being RNG I guess, it's a bitch sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268500
Probably for some quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268511
No quest requires her though. Maybe he likes gunkata?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268503
B-But, Wakaba? There are Fubuki class with more character.

>>12268511
Nope. Not a requirement for anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268514
>>12268515
Well damn, been a long while since I cleared them all.

Maybe to get one of each girl, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268497

makes me remind how I got 4 imuyas, 3 Ikus and one Hachi from 1-5 when I was looking for my lost Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268520
>lost Goya
I want to hear your story before I label you kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268531

He's probably the dude who sunk his Goya while fapping or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268532
>sunk his Goya while fapping
wot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268531

Was doing my dailies, got istracted by a friend and I went into the next map with Goya on red. I prayed to the RNG gods but I saw her sink. The shok was even greater because she was my favourite ships and one of the candidates for marrying.

Spent the next wekk after that doing non stop runs on 1-5 to get her back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268562
That's not the worst type of kuso, but that's still kuso.

I hope you've learned your lesson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268531

Was doing my dailies, got distracted by a friend and I went into the next map with Goya on red. I prayed to the RNG gods but I saw her sink. The shock was even greater because she is one of my favourite ships and one of the candidates for marrying.

Spent the next week after that doing non stop runs on 1-5 to get her back.

[Anonymous No.]

Will you all still be DJB after Haruna gets the monkey makeover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268605
She will no longer be 大丈夫。

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268613
Why is that black man shoving a pie on that ay man's face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268618
Because that ay man is very sad because Konhou Kai Nis are bad, and the black man wants him to cheer up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268515
Being the only masochistic kanmusu isn't enough character for you? I am sorely disappointed by the lack of a Tatsuta x Wakaba BDSM doujinshi though.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a question I couldn't get a definite answer to

If I engage and enemy and one of my ships get red(during that battle) and then I pursue them into a night battle, can that ship now be sunk? (in said night battle)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268680
>I couldn't get a definite answer to
you kinda suck at searching m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268680
no she can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268680
That's even in the wiki. A ship won't sink at night if she didn't start the battle in red.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not sure if it's dedication or lack of life. Maybe both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268736
That's a man who loves his subs. Or a mad tyrant who slaves his poor girls Orel. Perhaps both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268736

Having a fleet of high level subs isn't that hard, just because these past months I've been kinda busy, otherwise my sub fleet would be at least 130 by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268676
Tanikaze does it too, and she's cuter, with a more fun voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266505
>>12266556
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

so, is anyone here going to try oshiro collection to have something to do when there's no work to do in kancolle ?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a link to that nicovideo where there's a forest and you can hear Hieis and some occasional Kumas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268981
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21960174
this one, I guess ? You could have searched for the title, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268985
Thanks!
I forgot the title, that's why I'm asking. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268748
If the Orel map was personified, what kind of girl do you think she'd be? A small business owner whom the girls work part time for, who is somewhat confused why her employees wear swimsuits to work? A kind but rather absentminded young lady who gives candy to the kids playing outside, not noticing that they're the same girls every time? A sadistic lesbian who leaks fuel instead of vaginal juices and forces bound and blindfolded submarine girls to lick it from her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268988
young lady, my subs come back without any trauma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268973
22 hours later.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12268973

[Anonymous No.]

What should I equip my CVL when doing 1-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269466
All ASW radar

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269467
Sorry, wrong class. Go with gyro planes from akitsu and a random red

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269472
I don't have a gyroplane. Should I just go all red then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269488
Whatever has the highest ASW. Also Saiun if you want to be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269466
3 planes with high ASW and a Saiun. You don't want to receive red T on the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269501
>>12269502
I guess I need to craft a Saiun then.
Is 50/60/30/120 the best one to use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269540
20/60/10/110

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269546
70 tries and still nothing.
I'll try again later then.
;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269572
And all it took was 71 tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269610
Whining helps in most cases.

[Anonymous No.]

Got a second Hamakaze from 2-2 Boss node. I feel guilty getting rid of her like other rare ships but what else can I do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269651
Hate money for more space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269651
Upvoted, post your Taigei blog next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269660
Even with extra space do you just keep piling up lv1 rare ships?

[Anonymous No.]

470 in the past hour for top 1k. Jesus christ.

Guess I have to keep spending.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it, Sendai

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269623
May I do some whining too when?
25th 4/6/6/2 try and still no Yamatos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269850
Under 50 try is normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269724
Sen~da~i
When there's trouble, you call Sendai
Sen~da~i
Let's do night battle

The anon who guessed she'd become Darkwing Duck was right after all. Too bad, I was going for Eric.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I doing something wrong? Farming 3-2 and my Taihou still doesn't get MVP half the time. She has Suisei and the others have Type99. I haven't sparkled her.
Do I just need to get her to a higher level first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
Put torps on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
All blues on her, not red

Use a sub for god's sake

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
>Farming 3-2
>no sub
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269953
>>12269954
I'm following this method. It didn't use subs or blues.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23586243

And I tried with a sub, it doesn't kill off as many ships when using a sub compared to all CV/Ls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269959
Oops, skip to 22:00. The first 3 is leveling BBs, the one I'm talking about is the CV one in the 22min mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269959
>>12269962
Fatigue farm means 4/6 of your stuff are red fatigue

A single hit from anything that survives will definitely hit something into red

If you value your buckets fuel/steel use maruyu-shields

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269966
I don't have that many subs to rotate. So if I'm just going to wait for sub repair then I might as well just do the normal method.

Oh well. I guess farming more subs will be another goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
What's that gun on Taihou for if you go for an all or nothing airstrike?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269983
I don't know, I was just following the video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
Why aren't you equipping radars on your girls,?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
Why 3-2?
If you unlocked 5-4, 5-4-A is easy and gives tons of exp. I didn't spend more than 50 baux per sortie, but it drained some fuel.
Also, use a sub and blue planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270008
Radars on ships for fatigue-farming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270008
Like I said, I followed this >>12269959
It only used reds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270015
I haven't gotten that far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945
Maybe because of plane capacity. He used CV+5 CVLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269986
The gun would be a good idea if your ships have high morale, so Taihou can can attack first and kill remaining enemies. However, when you don't use a BB for second shelling and your non-flagship carriers have very low morale, you can replace this gun with more planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269945

Put only one attack ship on each extra girl. Fill Taihou with quality blue planes (Ryuusei and above).

And yeah, unless you use subs, prepare some buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

The guy himself says it might not work for you as it worked for him. Just keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

This set up works.
I switched the reds for blues in Taiho and the ships I was using was either too strong which steals the MVP or too weak which doesn't even kill the non-flagship ships. And it only deals scratch damage. It occasionally steals the MVP still but not as often as before and to alleviate that I should add 3 Radars on the other CVLs. It's not perfect but it works.

Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270096
Just saying, you're a monster. Take it easy, clear your dailies with her as a flagship, etc..

I can understant you want her to be strong for the upcoming rapefest, but this way won't do it. She won't fight for you as hard as if you raised her properly, with love and cuddles and smeling her farts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270153
They're ships. They don't feel love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270153
Just let him play his dam game in whatever manner he wants.
Why so many people insist other that they should play their own game the same way as theirs ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270163
Wrong, they're shipgirls. Don't justify your acts by lying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270153
Whine more, moralfaggot.
I sink several lvl 1 DD every day doing the sub daily to conserve maximum resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270153
I raised my Taiho in PvP and she got hit to red 22 times in Spring E5.

Unlucky CV indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270166
>his dam game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9yFbtK9_eQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270177
I've seen that link so many times now that I memorized it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270171
You're disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270188
You know what's disgusting?

Your attitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270096
Taihou can't wait to get a Re torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270189
Wow, calm down anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270171

how does that even work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270206
put 1 remodeled DD you keep for ASW duty as flagship with ASW gear, add 5 throwaway DD, deploy to 1-5
ignore all damage to the throwaways, retreat after third node, resupply only the flagship, deploy again

usually done after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270209

what is the point of doing this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270212
To clear sub daily/weekly with minimal resources like he said. A level 1 battleship is helpful too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270209
So you saved to resuply 3 ships once? Wow, that's gonna add up to a noticeable amount in a few years already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270212
1) no bucket usage or waiting
2) use for those pointless throwaway DD other than 3-2 steel suicide runs
3) minimized res usage for sub daily and weekly while giving the one useful ship exp and sparkles

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270217
I also saved repairing a ship or two
Also I like bullying flat ships and making anons like you mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270218
Who the fuck runs 3-2 for steel when it's THE resource that people have issues keeping under the cap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270220
I just think the resources saved aren't worth the clicking effort. Do you also unequip ships before using them for remodeling to scrap the equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

I am leveling up my HQ so fast. I am so scared that I will reach lvl80 before the midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270227
46cm and LSC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270218
I prefer 5-1 over this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270220
So not only are you a moron, you are also proud of being a moron.

Good going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270230
We don't even know if there's going to be level scaling or if the scaling will remain 80.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270229
No. I have nothing to modernize except AA stuff and yes I do unequip them with the unequip-all button.

>>12270227
What is LSC?

>>12270229
I'm watching anime on the side and otherwise aren't doing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270235
Look at what a faggot you are, shooting a bazooka inside a glasshouse.

[Anonymous No.]

morale issues aside, I think it's not worth th effort. Besides, in 1-5 you are wasting experience that could go to a BBV, a CVL and another DD/CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270250
I can get more exp per res used in other maps

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270266

but you still need to do the sub dailies and weekly right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270237

It would be safer to remain below 80 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270268
It's obviously more efficient to spend resources on higher yield exp maps and then do the quests in 1-5 for very little resource consumption at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270274

that does't deny the fact that you are throwing away experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270279
It is not being thrown away, because you are not spending anything for it (besides time).

Think of it this way: if you had to spend a ship's resources on 3 nodes of 150 exp or 3 nodes of 500 exp, it's pretty clear that spending those resources on the 150 xp is the waste instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270287

the experience goes to ships you won't use insteead of ships useful. Besides, you'll have to do 1-5 to get the daily and weekly anyway so why not use the opportunity on something useful instead of letting that experience go to ships you wont use.

It's not like you are starved of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

OH MAAAAH GAAAAWD!!!
When will they finally announce the date for Midway?!?! This wait is fucking killing me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270297
What's so bad about early august?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270295
>It's not like you are starved of resources
The only reason to use level 1 dd's in 1-5 for sub quests is for resource efficiency. Since it seems like you don't care about resource efficiency, perhaps you should just lay off and let those of us who do care continue on as we have been.

You can keep leveling things on your 150 exp per node if that's truly what you desire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270307

calm your tits, I use 5-4-A for leveling as most people but resource efficienc won¡t make you win maps, it's the level of the ships.

Besides, 1-5 earns you admiral experience quickly and your HQ level could go up pretty quicly on early levels in exchange of nothing.

Given how level scaling work on this game, throwing away experience for your ships is counterproductive, specially when doing the quests with useful ships gives you a possitive balance anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270311
The strategy described above won't raise your admiral level significantly since you never hit the boss. Being efficient with your resources means you will get higher levels for the same cost, but you don't need me to tell you that. I wonder if you're just trying to be argumentative to kill time?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what to do with CVL drops anymore, all my remodeled kanmusus are maxed except for a bunch of DDs I use for expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270317
>Being efficient with your resources means you will get higher levels for the same cost

higher levels of what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270323
max the DDs? There's no reason not to give your ships the best they can get, even if they're just expedition monkeys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270323
Scrap or use for modernization quests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270317

you are still getting unwanted admiral experience on 1-5 for nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270328
>>12270329
I guess I will do some modernizing from time to time, saving a few might be a good idea for coming kai nis too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270337
I hate to do this to you, but if you're going to argue about admiral exp in 1-5 when the boss node isn't even touched perhaps you should look up how much each node actually gives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270342

I hate to do this to you,but if you're going to argue about admiral experience you can't ever revert you should look up on the single expedition that will help you earn the extra expense and even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270342
The admiral exp adds up over time just as the few resources that get saved by this add up.

Low pain, low gain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270352
You get the same amount of admiral exp either way, you will be doing the same expeditions either way, the only argument here is whether the resource cost of 1-5 for ships you will continue to use is worth it. If you can't even see that, I'm done with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270352
>>12270356
To be honest I'm not sure why I'm even debating admiral exp. That factor only matters to people just starting to play the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270342
This is implying that people who care about rank would purposely avoid the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270367
The boss node is avoided not because people are trying to avoid admiral exp, but because a composition that does not even reach the boss node is being used. Let's not forget what we're talking about here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270370
If they're following the throwaway method, sure. But those who aren't as concerned about resources would use stronger fleets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270358

the point was that you won't go back to having less admiral experience. In contrast, you can recoover the extra resources you used anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270374
I don't disagree with that. As I said before, the only reason to use throwaway method is resource efficiency. Those that don't care, don't have to use it. It's no reason to decide that it's a "bad" method of completing the sub quests though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12269724
Thanks for sharing, anon. My bdsm boner is going nuts thanks to this.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to run KCV and SC side by side? Generally, I prefer KCV but damn, that resource logging is a killer

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270427
Pretty sure you can. I personally just use sanaechan, but I've heard other TTKs talk about using both.

I think you just have to make sure your sanaechan proxy settings are setup and you should be good to go. KCV is just IE at its core after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270378

The souls of all those destroyers will pile up and swallow you whole when your HQ level get too high

[Anonymous No.]

W)y should I use logbook instead pf KCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270455
Do whatever you want.

I use logbook because it's less resource intensive to run, and because I've been playing the game long enough that a more minimal set of data is all I need.

I also prefer its minimal interface; takes up less space on my screen.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any sane method for completing the World 2 boss daily besides 2-2, subslaving and that LOS shithole called 2-5? I've had it up to here with fucking reroutes and criticals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
If you want sanity, don't do all dailies. You can't have everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
5-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
Just don't do it.
I ignore it most of the time, the rewards don't worth the frustration it brings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
2-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
Yeah, by not doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270518
You forgot 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270515
You're right somewhat, but everyone seems to be fucking breezing through them.

>>12270518
>>12270521
And deal with twice the RNG as 2-2? No thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270513
What's wrong with 2-2? Just bring two carriers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270311
You're a retard if you think someone who cares that much about resource efficiency doesn't also have an armada of highlevel ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270524
>everyone
Who?
I don't recall many people bragging about breezing through World 2 boss kill daily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270524
It usually takes me anything from a dozen 2-3 runs to finish them, I only keep doing them all for that extra 200 bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270524
2-2 isn't too bad actually, if you have a carrier or two in the fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270311
Yes, I am oh so worried about admiral exp at HQ level 109 with two pages full of level 99 ships and the page 5 bottom still being ships in the mid 60's

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270524

It's luck, or should I say RNG? I do it with 5 subs, I know it might not be the most efficient way but I like to level up my subs.

Sometimes it takes me around 6 to 10 sorties, sometimes above 20, and there have been times where I can't complete it at all even if I do 2-2 too.

I just don't rush it, send my subs, then wait for them to recover from fatigue while I do something else, maybe that's why I still have my sanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270526
>>12270531
I do, but RNG seems to like wasting my time with her effing reroutes.

>>12270528
No, but I do see a lot of them "completing their dailies". Could just be me though.

>>12270529
>bauxite
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270537
Sounds like a decent plan. Fuck RNG, I have better things to do than pray to this false god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270538
Or they just mean those dailies they actually do each day, not all off them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270546
That could be true. Now I feel like a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270538
>No, but I do see a lot of them "completing their dailies".
I don't see a single mention of "completing dailies" in this entire thread.

I see a few mentions of "clearing dailies" which I think just means working on their dailies in general, not necessarily clearing them all.

[Anonymous No.]

http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/111441.htm
>2chan resources bragging thread.
Not that much different from us it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270587
Lot of Japanese using the same trip.
That some kind of meme or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270601
What? There isn't a single trip in that thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270601
>>12270603
Keep replying to yourself, faggot.

Jesus, this "Anonymous" tripfag is a total prick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270611
Are me you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266361
It's Wednesday already. Did you do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270678
No, and it won't be done until Friday or Saturday. Fuck off you slave driver.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is crafting Radars harder than crafting planes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270693
more crap in the pool

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270696
I think I need to resort to Isuzu farming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270693
Japan had a very limited electronics industry and thus had trouble mass producing radars in sufficient or reliable quantity. Its aeronautics industry was far more robust for obvious reasons.

The real answer is RNG shit

[Anonymous No.]

Do seaplanes go on everything able to carry one to enable artillery spotting, or do I just need one somewhere in my fleet and air superiority?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270714
The former.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270700
But Isuzu gives only shit radars. These things are everywhere, you'll scrap some sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting cat screen no matter what I do. Any body else on the same spot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270730
Usually it's just my shitty internet connection.

[Anonymous No.]

How are you guys able to maintain MVP to your flagship when doing 3-2-A using the Flagship / BB / Wildcards / SS set up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270730
Make sure date and time is synced to internet time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270740
Give them double attack if they are capable, give the others cut in if they're weak or no special attack + stack radars for ca/bb. Carrier mvp should have 3 blues + Type 2 plane, double line formation. DD / CL without plane mvp you're shit out of luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270752
So basically give flagship double attack, BB stacked with Radars and give the rest cut in attack.

Also how important is the Type 2 Recon Aircraft? I don't have one yet and I used 90% of my dev mats crafting Saiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270784
It's not terribly important, it just provides a lot of accuracy and the last slot is probably small. You can put a yellow 15.5cm in last slot if you like so she'll fire earlier in the first round, or another blue plane if you prefer.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the Sendai class worth leveling up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270937
For the equipments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270948
this.
and I must say, not every equip. they are really subpar. You're better off leveling Kinugasa, at least she got a good kai2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270948
Nevermind then. I'm mostly trying to level up ships or Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270956
>ships or Midway.
Better level those CVs then

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270956
With all the night battle stuff lately there could be a map that needs it. But carriers should take priority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270961
Done with that. Most are 80 and only Taihou is 50. Plus, ship diversity is nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270937

Sendai: worth the equipment.
Jintsuu: worth for the stats.
Naka: She's the cutest and a living legend.

Yeah, worth it everyone of then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270693

Does that +10 Acc +4 LOS radar really exists? I've tried crafting it sometimes but I've allways got shit and that 250 bauxite cost hurts a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270975
>Sendai: worth for being cute
>Jintsuu: worth for being heavenly
>Naka: She's cute and a living legend.

No need to thank me, just fixing up some errors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270979

Sorry, I meant 10 LOS 8 Acc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12270982
0/3.

[Anonymous No.]

To whose who enjoy having money, how do you decide which ships to keep and which ones to throw away when you only have 100 slots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271031
cuteness, rarity, and usefulness

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271031
I have three spare slots, but I'm going to have to buy more once the even starts. I can't bring myself to get rid of kanmusu I don't have multiples of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271031

Love is stronger the fewer ships you have anon. Otherwise it will be like butter spread on too much bread.

[Anonymous No.]

How does Artillery Spotting work? Is it mandatory to have a flagship cut in / double attack for the rest of the fleet to have 100%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271049

Artillery spotting is triggered when you've got at least air parity and there is at least one ship equipped with a recon plane/ seaplane bomber.

Then, each ship with a plane gets increased accuracy, increased damage and the posibility to perform a daytime cut-in with the right equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271063
>air parity
I got that. Testing it in 3-2.
>at least one ship equipped with a recon plane/ seaplane bomber.
>posibility to perform a daytime cut-in with the right equipment
What're the chances? I had 5 ships with the right equipment and a plane and none of them were able to do it.
The wiki mentions this:
>Flagships bonus of around +15%
What does that exactly mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271063
>>12271071
I'm pretty sure superiority is required. Parity lets them double attack you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271160
I was doing it in 3-2, even though you have 0 air superiority it should still work right, since 3-2 has none.
Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271162
Are you really sure you're not doing something wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271162
Yes, make sure you have something that can trigger the air phase, otherwise there's no chance to get air superiority even if the enemy has 0 fighter power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271162
You need to have an opening air strike for scouting to activate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271170
>>12271172
Sea planes count right? And even if it doesn't I thought blue planes work.

Anyways, it seems that run was just unlucky, I tried again and it works 80% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271182
As long as you have an opening air strike, meaning red/blue/zuiun is set on one of your ships. Or if you were here for Arpeggio Seiran also counts.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of red and blue planes, reading the wiki it seems red>blue for everything except subs? And against a sub it'd do crap damage anyway (if you could even attack it). Maybe the 1.5 plane scaling makes it worth it in some situations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271326
I thought blue was better during the opening airstrike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271339
Blue planes get either a .8 penalty or a 1.5 bonus to the opening airstrike, but red planes give their stat x2 to the carrier shelling phase. Maybe it's a gamble for taking out ships before shelling starts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271326
If you compare Ryuusei kai to Suisei 12A. Ryuusei kai has similar attack in the shell phase, but potentially way higher attack in the open phase.

Kancolle math
13*1.5=10*2.0

13*0.8=10*1.0
13*1.5>>>>10*1.0

[Anonymous No.]

1-1 best for steel grinding
gotta love those free destroyers

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271412
Who needs steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271415
LSC hunters

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271416
You'd run out of fuel, ammo or bauxite before.

[Anonymous No.]

6Reppu+Reppu Kai
8Suisei 12A
3Ryuusei Kai

HiryuuK2 78
Taihou 90
Kaga 90
Akagi 72
Souryu 45

30k/22k/53k/39k
How fucked am I at MI?
Also just got a Hiryuu drop, what do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271420
How about find it out yourself, you indecisive faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12266664
My DDs can still take on the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271420
>How fucked am I at MI?
I hate this question. None of us are Tanaka-san from DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271432
>>>/5-4/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271433

Hello Tanaka-san

[Anonymous No.]

New player, just got thrashed by a 2-4 carrier group. The counter to CVs is just more and better CVs or BBs, right? Feels odd having all these different ship units but nothing actually counters anything. Anything that's not a BB/CV seems only good for taking a shot meant for a BB/CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271439
Read the wiki, mongoloid

[Tanaka No.]

>>12271439
Welcome to KanColle where BBs and CVs are kings.
Enjoy your stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271439
it means, git gud skrub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271439
Welcome to the realities of war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271439
All classes have their own distinct niches. Sometimes that niche is narrow (CAVs, BBVs) but they're there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271502
>CAV niche
>narrow
Statwise they're nearly identical to CAs, and their seaplanes can take place in aerial combat. Unless you're facing a surface-sub fleet and the rest of your fleet is ASW there's no reason not to pick a CAV over a CA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271522
There isn't much reason to pick a CAV over a CA either. Their aerial combat capacity is the only thing going for them, and that is pretty much negligible.

The CAV niche is the single narrowest niche in the game because they're not too distinct from CAs. At least you use BBVs when you want a second shelling phase on an ASW team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
When it comes down to filling up 1-2 slots, honestly, it's whether or not you like Tone more than Myoukou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
>Their aerial combat capacity is the only thing going for them, and that is pretty much negligible.
It's helped me get air superiority several times. And in group at 2-5 they can even sink those DDs which is useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
CAV can do everything CA can do, and they can do seaplane bombing too.

That said, the only good CAV class is Tone and they're not exactly easy to get to. But she's totally cute and worth the trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
>Their aerial combat capacity is the only thing going for them, and that is pretty much negligible.
Also ASW, though that's not much either.

>The CAV niche is the single narrowest niche in the game because they're not too distinct from CAs
The CAV's niche is the CA's and a little extra, their niche is wider than the CA's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
CAV can carry barrels. CA cannot. That's a huge bonus in grinding 5-4.
When you want to go to 5-4 for the super easy exp, surefire boss battle and transport ship killing, really good rate of getting a CVL to feed to your other girls for AA and farming for drops, you naturally think "where are my CAV's".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271535
CAV is cuter
Tone
Chikuma
Kumano
Suzuya

CA is butt ugly
Besides Haguro that got a facelift, everyone else is terribad looking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271557
This guy does great crazy eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271580
Nah man, Ashigara is christmas cake cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271580
But Kinugasa became a lovely girl after her remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271583
Her MMD model forever ruined her for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>MMD

[Anonymous No.]

Will AA guns ever become relevant, /jp/? I hope Midway event does something to make them a little more useful. Until then, I'll keep my stash of 12cm 30 tube rocket launchers and those holo rarity FlaKs.

[Anonymous No.]

Does /jp/ like Naganami? She's pretty great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271647
Her voice makes me hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271647
>>12271650
No kidding m80s

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271647
I really like Naganami. My first and favorite Yuugumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271664
ko ru ri Naganami is exceptionally cute

[Anonymous No.]

Naganami is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271647
10/10 Best onee-chan I never had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271669
G-g-go away!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271669
Just because she's a destroyer doesn't mean she isn't deserving of my love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271696
I only keep useful ships.
Love doesn't win wars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271697
>Love doesn't win wars.
Then you've already lost the most important war of all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271697
Why don't you go build some abyss himes you alien cracka

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271697
But destroyers are the most useful ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271697
>he doesn't love his ships

[Anonymous No.]

I hope you've been leveling your Souryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271727
He does, if they are useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Mine is 77, hope that's enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Of course she's ready. Souryuu is the cutest carrier, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271759
That's not love. He's just using them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
She's ready. Will remove smile asap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Shit. I guess this means she's arriving with this next maintenance.

And I thought I'd have a bit more time to level her before she came.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Mine is level 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271791
Let those poor girls take a bath before you take shots of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271792
There are no smiles where we're headed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
frowning intensifies

[Anonymous No.]

Is it time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271799
top kek
saw this before, slowpoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271799
大丈夫大丈夫大丈夫大丈夫大丈夫

[Anonymous No.]

Woah.

[S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12271756
She's only Lvl 61, but I think I still have plenty of time before the event.

>>12271799
But I thought she's going to be not daijobu until the 28th. What's up with the early leak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271808
I'm having a bad night so far. I lost to a 4BB fleet, and two of my PvPs had shitty afk ship. Fucking chinks, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271812
It's a fake. No daijoubu till the 28th like you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271799

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271647
hell yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
Please let her keep her smile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756
She's 80, I hope they don't keep raising the remodel level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271900
I'm guessing she'll remodel at 88.
Japs love that numerology shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271910
I think that's too high, if anything they would go with 66.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271912
6 doesn't mean shit though.
8's all about wealth and good fortune and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Hope 77 is enough for fat-tats

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271921
They're not that fat. The arts overemphasize her tits

[Anonymous No.]

How do I increase the accuracy of planes? Just stick Radars in them? I'm farming 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISR2U5kTO2M

[Anonymous No.]

>>122719101
I seriously doubt that. 88 is just too high. When they announced Hiryuu's kai2, I think they mentioned that her remodel level will be 'quite high'. Therefore I really doubt they'll throw is another 11 levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272028
>'quite high'
Very high actually.
'quite high' was for Kongous, which are 75.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272031
Indeed, you're right.
That makes lvl 88 - when 77-88 takes almost 40% of the 0-77 exp - remodel even less likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272035
IIRC so far we have
High = 70 (Myoukou).
Quite high = 75 (Kongous).
Very high = 77 (Hiryuu).
I think Souryuu Kai 2 will be 70-77.
I doubt any ships outside of Yamato class and maybe Nagato class would require level 80+ for kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

LVL99 super yamato when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272055
With any luck, november to december this year, the time when it was commissioned/laid down.`

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272060
She better come with a wave motion engine.

[Anonymous No.]

Typical kuso TTK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272048
I miss isuzu remodel levels

[Anonymous No.]

We're probably going to get a few more of the trained-hybrids from the remodel

Another 5-star tenzan would be great

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272060
> the time when it was commissioned/laid down.`
A 150 never left drafting board. And I doubt they'll start adding ships that never left drafting board so soon. A-150 project is completely unrelated to Yamato-class too. I don't see people calling montana-class super iowa-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272106
Souryuu had good air crews, so maybe we'll see something like Tomonaga's Tenzan. Also, this.

[Anonymous No.]

Tell me TTKs, which is more satisfying?

Getting a whale on your first sortie or getting Musashi after 30+ crafts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272123
Getting a whale on your first sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow you need boatloads of FP for 5-4. What do you guys load up yoru CV's with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272112
He means a Yamato Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272133
She never did something worth Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272135
And she might still get one.
Isn't it say, Nagamon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272135
She got an anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272135
Tanaka-shi will give her one anyway.

And she will have five slots.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/205/G020591/20130911062/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272144
Now I only need Leyte Gulf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272147
Could be December's event

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else facing unexpectedly many cats? I guess the event announcement made the server full again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756

YEEEEES, TIME TO ROCK ON WIT MY FIRST CARRIER.

[Anonymous No.]

Is that sign language re-chang

You want a donut? Is that it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272177
That's her torpedo entering your Taihou

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272196
I'm not sure I get where you're coming from

[Anonymous No.]

Dear me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272208
That message. Truly love at first sight.

[Anonymous No.]

Come at me, devs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272258
Is that Vicky or HOI?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272265
HOI2

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272269
Why not DH?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272404
I only have DDA, too lazy to add up more.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for camouflage Haruna K2. Why are maintenance not on wednesday anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272427
After months of wait, 9 days aren't really anything to complain about.

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure why I'm leveling the next CV except for kantai index. The damaged sprite is just a lazy redraw of the normal stance.

Wish we could get more quality art and not kai ni from people who can't draw two pictures of the same character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272436
I wish we got some new good artists.

[Anonymous No.]

Did they increase fatigue recovery or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272438
fuck you LSC, seriously
thats 15 tries without even a maruyu or Zun
endless Kongous and fusous

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271756

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B1%9F%E8%8D%89%E9%9A%86%E7%B9%81

Have your 2 extra suisei ready for the Suisei Egusa Squadron quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272545
Since spring event update, ships recover morale after a sortie based on the time you were sortieng.

So if your sortie is long enough, it will cancel out the morale loss due to the end of a sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck you LSC, seriously
thats 15 tries without even a maruyu or Zun
endless Kongous and fusous

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272559
Bitching on /jp/ only works if you wait at least 24 hours between griping sessions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12271031
I just finished my pre-event purge. Went through all of them by class, listed the low level members of each overpopulated class, sorted them by how new they are to the fleet, and gave passes to the cutest ones. The remainder, which included almost a third of my CAs, will be decommissioned and sent to high schools to capture ordinary schoolboys in order to replenish Japan's population for the war effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272565
I deleted the earlier post because I forgot to take out the quote

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272567
And all this shit just to save 5 bucks... how jew can you be?
Also keep the autism RP for yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272608
>keep the autism RP for yourself
There's literally no reason to play this elaborate game of dice rolls if you're not autism RPing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272618
I enjoy it for the cute girls and the brief moments where I feel a sense of accomplishment for clearing a map, getting a rare ship, etc., no RPing necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272438

the Unryuus are a good oportunity for a new artist. Please Kadokawa, let Asanagi draw then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272666
>Asanagi
Keep dreaming, that's never going to happen for many and obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272666
But Asanagi is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272674

The Unryuus were broken girls. There is no more convenient artist than Asanagi for then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272691
This. One of the worst cases of sameface, ugly bodies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272711
Konishi is broken too.

[Anonymous No.]

Just started out, it's very fun. Question though, what's the strategy in levelling up your kanmusu? I keep getting new kanmusu, try to raise their level, get new kanmusu, try to raise their level, etc. It's an endless cycle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272713

>Ugly bodies
>UGLY BODIES
>UGLY

I could concede the same facing if you were completely blind to small details but, nah, fuck you. You are full of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272733
Level up the ones you need the most and/or your favorite shipgirls. Don't even try leveling up all of them. Also, there's no need to grind until you unlock map 3-2. You should get enough exp from normal sorties for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12272736
Why are you so angry? You probably just jumped on the bandwagon anyway because all the cool boys on /a/ were jerking off to the lol so edgy works?