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>> No.12218830

So, old thread finally died. About time.

Who's those 3 wearing Sendai-class clothing?

>> No.12218835

Love live characters.

>> No.12218836

Love live characters.

>> No.12218840


I see, thanks. Didn't bother watching that show for some reason, but then I'm not an anime guy in general.

>> No.12218847

It's always amusing to go into pvp and seeing a sub with planes.

>> No.12218851

God, how can you fuckers decide who to marry. I just got the marriage quest, and my highest level is Hiei at 75(By far my favorite, and not to mention luckiest ship by far right now) but I'm hesitating so much.

Is 2 1/2 weeks of playing too soon to decide? Hiei is awesome. Kiso is great. So is Tenryuu. Mutsuki's super adorable, Tatsuta's voice... ect. Nearly the entire cast is extremely adorable or attractive. Even if you narrow it down to just the tomboy/short hair girls, it's still impossible.

How can you judge this? Time spent? Favorite ship? Favorite voice? Instinct? Tryhard scum so you marry Musashi or Yamato?

One shot at marriage unless you're polygamist scum

>> No.12218860

>How can you judge this? Time spent? Favorite ship? Favorite voice? Instinct? Tryhard scum so you marry Musashi or Yamato?
So which type you are?
If you are indecisive type then just don't marry anyone.

>> No.12218861

Its more irritating when pvp favors the opponent side and Nagamon only deals 2digit damage to enemy DD why they get to lolcrit your fleet.

>> No.12218864

>If you are indecisive type then just don't marry anyone.
That's what I did.

>> No.12218874

There's nothing wrong with marrying Yamato. She's one of the prettiest ships in the game and is voiced by Taketatsu Ayana.

If you're really tryhard then you marry a Kongou class or Kaga/Taihou/Hiryuu. Unless the devs suddenly start favoring slow ships then those ships will always have the most utility. Yamatos are strong enough already without the stat boost too.

Most people get into the game because of one ship and marry her or just marry their starter.

>> No.12218879

>Most people get into the game because of one ship and marry her or just marry their starter.
People either marry their starters because they prefer long time partner, or marry the ship that helped them cleared the events as the reward for her effort, or marry their most favorite ship out of the bunch.
Usually there is a combination of 2 and 3, but 1 isn't uncommon.

>> No.12218886

Yuudachi is love. Yuudachi is life.

>> No.12218896

I'm rather indecisive if I know I haven't seen everyone's voice/art. Then again, I know I'm not the type to regret either. So once I make my choice I wouldn't care at all. But I always worry beforehand if I know I haven't exhausted my options.
Yeah, quite a few people go after Kongou, Kaga, Akagi, Murakumo, ect. I've seen two brothers who've gone for Hiei and Kiso as well. The love for tomboys is strong... I'm honestly stuck between Hiei, Pirate Murasa, and Tenryuu(I started this game for her). I'll probably run with Hiei or Kiso. Hiei's dialogue shows her as a siscon and I'm an adamant yurifag, so there goes that.

>> No.12218900

You're only making this harder, friend.. How could I forget about the poi for even a moment.

The best destroyer all round'...

>> No.12218909
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Are you guys ready for Midway's E-4?

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I thought she still need her vacation

>> No.12218922

But there were no Allied battleships at Midway. Then this is the devs we're talking about so who knows, a little bit of screwing historical accuracy just to make the event sadistic is possible.

>> No.12218928

> a little bit of screwing historical accuracy just to make the event sadistic is possible.
Just like what they did to spring E-5.

>> No.12218929

Hands off my Kiso, degenerate scum.

>> No.12218940

Stay jealous your battleshit is shit even with ring boost.

>> No.12218956

What the hell are you so asspained about?

Improve your reading comprehension before going off on people you degenerate orangutang.

>> No.12218964

Ya'll better fuck off my pure shipfu before someone gets hurt.

>> No.12218968

Haruna best shipfu, others BB are just shit.
Haruna is daijobu

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>> No.12218985

Leave the best for last

>> No.12218987

Stopped reading right there criminal scum.
Bestiality is against the law.
Nagato best BB, and an actual pure-hearted shipfu.
Only acceptable BB/BBV are Nagato, Mutsu, Hotel, Mushytits, or the Ise-class. Check yourself.

>> No.12218988

B-but kirishima

>> No.12218989


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>> No.12218992

Nice way to demonstrate shit taste. Like, if they gathered all the shit taste in the universe, allowed it to condense to a single turd point, then let it collapse on itself and the resulting black hole formed people...

That would be you two.

>> No.12218996

Nice opinion on the internet, dude

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>> No.12218998

Kirishima non-K2 is fine. Don't worry.
KK2 is shit though.

Criminal scum. Might as well like fucking sheep.

Only you would know how shitty something is, shit-eater.
If they gathered all the shit in the universe, condensed it to bite-sized form, and chose a person to eat it, you would kill that person to take his place in consuming that bite-sized universal shit candy.

I like it when my women DONT smell like kraut farts.

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>> No.12219002

And look at how Z1 and Z3 turned out.

>> No.12219003
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She's good enough for Hitler, why not you?

>> No.12219004

>Nagato best BB
Mutsu is better.

>> No.12219007

Who cares about who the best BB's are when the best girls in the game are CLs...

>> No.12219010

Hitler was shit though.
Worst commander, only useful for rallies and morale. He killed off the figures who were actually useful in the war, and pussed out. Why would I want something he wanted, when the Germans could've had a noble ending without his dumb ass?

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Can't we all just agree to disagree? What would your waifu say if she knew you were shitposting for her?

Anyway, what was your starter ship and why? I chose pic related because tsundere and sci-fi-looking equipment.

>> No.12219018

I think it was implied that you're literally worse than Hitler.

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Because she looked the best.

>> No.12219021
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best looking and Uesaka Sumire's voice

>> No.12219022

Hitler is dead.
I am alive. That's one point for me, 0 for Hitler.

>> No.12219023

Yeah, those Germans had a horrible end. Look at them now! Their nation in shambles, people starving, they'll never reach their former glory or dominate Europe again...
Murakuuuuuumo a shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! A shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! On a serious note, a lot of people choose Murakumo because she's the least plain starter by a wide margin. I chose Fubuki because I spammed forward on the introduction like a retard. I still like her, though.

>> No.12219025

Everyone else

>> No.12219028

Did you forget to mention the best CL of them all; Kiso?

There should be a limit to bad taste. You're pushin' the limits here, man. Sendai's great too though, that scarf is boneriffic.

>> No.12219029
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I picked Fubuki by accident, but didn't regret it. She's so adorable, more so than any of the other starters.

>> No.12219030

You couldn't have been more cancerous with a single post and that takes quite some effort, you should have just killed yourself instead.

>> No.12219033

I'm not hitler.

>> No.12219037

It was a toss up, but Murakumo was too tsun so I went with Inazuma. She seemed cute and useless and switched on my protective instincts.

>> No.12219041
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I chose Fubuki because muh rarity, and she was the MC and all. Also the modernisation points she gave meant that I got an extra firepower point in my quest to catch 'em all. Didn't know about the extra equipment she gave back then so it wasn't a factor.

I married her just before anniv patch.

>> No.12219042

I'm glad you get it, now end your pathetic excuse for a life just like he did.

>> No.12219044

I chose Fubuki because someone told me she was rarer than the other starters.

>> No.12219046

I'm not him though.

>> No.12219047

Her hawawawawa nanodesu is absolutely adorable.
You made the right choice.

>> No.12219055

Murakumo because I liked her hair

>> No.12219057

Yes, she is.

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Once a year reminder

>> No.12219063

I started in September and I didn't get Fubuki until Arpeggio

>> No.12219066

I thought sinking mechanics is mostly understood now.

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Amen to that. I thought Samidare looked nice too, but Murakumo just seemed more capable. Also thought about choosing Inazuma, but she looked too timid.

And you just proved your own point with that retard spelling. Go back to the naval academy. Also, opinions.

She reminded me too much of Plane Jane Yoshika from Strike Witches, so I didn't pick her in the end. Glad that you're happy with her though.

Gotta protect that ponytail.

Nice, I didn't know about her extra points. What about the anniversary patch? Sorry, newfag here.

She's quite rare, isn't she? I think I've only got her five times.

I usually dislike hime cuts like hers, but her pure hair colour was too divine to resist.

>> No.12219070

Stop spreading disinfo.
Your lies have already been debunked by wo.

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Screw you

>> No.12219082

>What about the anniversary patch?
Oh, overhauled UI, spring 2014 event, new battle mechanic (artillery spotting or whatever it's called), the works. Just saying that I married her just before the game turned 1 year old.

>I usually dislike hime cuts like hers
It's one of my favourite hairstyles...

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Ah, I see. I still have a ways to go before any of my ships hit 90.

>It's one of my favourite hairstyles...
One man's meat and all that, I guess. If anything, I hate the name more than anything else; it implies the ojou-sama personality even before you see her in action.

In any case, I also like Murakumo's hairstyle sister-Hatsuyuki.

Also, watch that ID.

>> No.12219121

Meant for >>12219069; was about to say something about night battles with my ship girls in reply to >>12219062 but forgot about it and something mixed up.

Hime = princess after all. I just like the straight bangs and long hair.

>Also, watch that ID.
Yeah, didn't notice my mistake.

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Is there a final count for this?

>> No.12219156

At a glance
6th desdiv

What is shocking isnt craneslut making into the top but it is Shoukaku and not turkey.

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No prob, just be careful next time.

>Hime = princess after all. I just like the straight bangs and long hair.
Long hair is best after all.

>> No.12219168

I'm not really surprised, cranes and Atago are a lot more popular with the Japanese fanbase than here. And for the better considering the type of posting "well-received" ships get here.

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>What is shocking isnt craneslut making into the top but it is Shoukaku and not turkey.

Idealized women are popular in grorious nippon obviously. Yamato is default twitter dp for a reason.

Sluts and lolis too if the results are anything to go by. Nao Toyama effect is brutal.

>> No.12219175

It's because /jp/ is full of contrarian hipsters.

>> No.12219179

I'm glad that Shoukaku is loved.

>> No.12219181

Shoukaku is konishi's masterpiece.

>> No.12219184

That's not Zuihou

>> No.12219190

Zuihou is marred by the horrible camo colors. Historical accuracy be damned, those are disgusting shades of green.

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Shoukaku is my darling.

>> No.12219201

You mean Yahagi?

>> No.12219207

Dunno man. Atago's my favorite shipgirl.

>> No.12219210

I wonder how would that change if you replaced bob's ships with their new and glorious kai2s

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why are you jpsies so freaking weird ??

>> No.12219220

Probably not much. Don't forget most of them just fap to sluttified little girls (speedslut) or blonde with overgrown tits (Atago). Ronery guys go for monkey. These 3 groups probably make up about 90% of Japanese male fanbase.

>> No.12219228

it will be a hard choice bettwen I-58 and Shoukaku. I got into Kancolle for Shoukaku but all those sub runs on 2- has made me start loving Goya too. I.. I dunno what to do...

Plus there is that affaire with Ryujou...

>> No.12219281

I'm interested in your opinion, guys.
At the moment I'm on 77k baux and hardly sortie CVs at the moments. I run expedition 6, 21 and 38 right now. Should I switch over to 21,37,38 to build fuel and ammo for the event? 78k + income from quests should be enough in my opinion. Fuel and ammo however... That's never enough, not to mention I'm still short on Karut and Moosashi.

>> No.12219294

How much is your fuel and ammo stock?
You will be safe if it's over 60k.

>> No.12219297

63 and 84k. I'd like it to be higher though, especially ammo and steel (114k atm) for future Moosashi crafts.

>> No.12219299

No. Get 100k baux first.

>> No.12219300

Also, I should proof my fucking posts before submitting especially when I'm tired. Jesus christ.

>> No.12219304

Never stop getting baux. We don't know how bad the changes will be, and you don't want to be fucked over by the VT fuses.

>> No.12219318

I wish there was a way to tell the game to instantly scrap all the ships that drop

>> No.12219322

I think it's enough, LSC isn't going anywhere.
And just like >>12219304 said, it's better to anticipate the new equipment in regards to bauxite. It could make the difference between spending 40k and 80k in the event.

>90% of Japanese male fanbase.
Considering that Era-ko and Akagi are pretty popular, i bet you are pulling that 90% statistic from your ass.

>> No.12219345

So, I haven't played the game since about last October, I won't be irrevocably screwed when it comes to the UI, leveling up my ships, etc if I get back into it will I?

>> No.12219352

UI experience is more responsive and seaplane is relevant now.
Everything else has not changed much.

>> No.12219355

just before the event?

>> No.12219363

Something like that. Anyways, thanks for the news, I shall bugger off and get reacquainted with my ships. It's been way too long since I've played.

>> No.12219364

So what combination would be good for baux?
back to 6/11/38?

>> No.12219366

Don't forget to have new API link after a maintenance (using cookie method), it's pretty important.

>> No.12219369

What a convenient omission of "probably" and "about". Why the fuck would I have accurate statistical data for a browser game? Thinking doesn't hurt.

>> No.12219381

Please put "Kantai Collection - Kancolle" on the topic field instead of on the name field.
I'm surprised no one had complained about it.

>> No.12219383

I don't feel safe about 100k really. Now at about 145k baux, but still... I am worried. Fuel and ammo are above 200k, but those are easy to save up.

>> No.12219396

API link is not needed anymore.

>> No.12219407

That's just paranoid.

>> No.12219427

What's with the ring? Who is she married to?

>> No.12219429

I wish there was a gun to give DDs medium attack range.

>> No.12219436

Should I even bother with PvP when I mainly want to level up CV/CVLs? I'm already too low on resources to do things in the name of "might as well".

>> No.12219444

Just take off their planes if you want to grind them in pvp.

>> No.12219446

But there's no way I'll get S-rank with 3 carriers leeching.

>> No.12219449

So your choice to grind 1 or 2 instead of 3, or just ditch the exp you can gain from PVP totally.
Not that hard right?

>> No.12219459

that sounds like a disadvantage

>> No.12219461

In most situations, yes, but it would be incredibly useful to do 1-1 sparkle runs.

>> No.12219464

It's not like it's free exp. It's always a trade-off with resources vs exp, and 3-2-A seems like a better trade-off for carriers.

>> No.12219465

no it wouldn't

>> No.12219469

If the flagship DD attacks before every other DD, the useless DDs won't sink the enemy before her.

>> No.12219471

Guys, any tips to carry my these low level myoukou class through 2-5?

>> No.12219473

Are you running 1-1 sparkle runs with more than 1 ship in your fleet?

>> No.12219475

Just level and remodel them, they will most likely get k2s anyway.

>> No.12219477

Otherwise the flagship would eat all the attacks and take more than one hour repairing.

>> No.12219480

Why are you not running 1-1 sparkle runs with more than 1 ships?

>> No.12219487

They do that either way for me.

>> No.12219491

I bring two level 1 DDs along with the one I'm sparkling and after the 4 runs she rarely has any damage, the most I had to repair after all the runs was like 6 points and that was probably because she was just a level 20 DD.

>> No.12219497

Nowadays I only take one, it was getting annoying when the other two would steal MVP.

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>> No.12219530

Maybe for you.

>> No.12219537

More like for everyone.

>> No.12219542

Yeah right

>> No.12219548

All these votes for Haruna are really disgusting me.

>> No.12219550

Your taste is disgusting me.

>> No.12219551

You are digusting

>> No.12219554

Not DJB.

>> No.12219556

She's a boring ship that can only say 'I'm Ok!'.
She's a shining beacon of complete worthlessness of all ships in this game, because she completely fails at being more than just another ship.

>> No.12219560

Why so bitter, faggot?

>> No.12219561

Is that the best you can come up with because she has no personality?

>> No.12219562

She's better than
annoying genki
ugly megane
shitty dyke

>> No.12219563

Because he's the shitposter from /a/.

>> No.12219564

Nor do other ships, unless you call the TTK love Kaga fanwank personality

>> No.12219565

Hai, Haruna wa daijoubu dess.

>> No.12219566

Haruna is best BB, other BB are SHIT!
Haruna is DJB! Fuck hotel or moosashi

>> No.12219569

>Fuck hotel
That's not very DJB.

>> No.12219571

Whose next to level for kai2?

>> No.12219572


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>> No.12219576

What can API do that cookie can't?

>> No.12219577

Haruna is DJB

>> No.12219580

F5 pvp?

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>> No.12219584

Are you that much of a kuso that you can't bring a proper fleet?

>> No.12219588

Enjoy your ban.

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>> No.12219595

There's no guarantee you'll get S even with 6 BBs.
Thanks, I'll keep waiting for it .

>> No.12219597

1. F5scumming, it's one method which wouldn't hammer the login server.
2. Playing from the projector.

>> No.12219598

>There's no guarantee you'll get S even with 6 BBs.
And do you really need to get that S no matter what?

>> No.12219599

Then why bother F5ing?

>> No.12219604

Not him, but why bother living if you are going to die?

>> No.12219624

I did a few 3-2-a sorties and even with air superiority I sometimes lost up to 40-60 planes (around 20 on average). Considering how exp 6 only gives 80 per 40 mins, it doesn't seem very resource efficient to me.

>> No.12219632

Did you use at least 1 fighter?

>> No.12219638

Bringing along two BBs for PvP doesn't always guarantee B rank or higher, and it costs around 130 ammo and fuel, which takes much longer to replenish than 20 bauxite. The higher raw exp makes up for that with most other ships, but for carriers you'll never get MVP and S-rank is far from guaranteed.

>> No.12219650

>lost up to 40-60 planes (around 20 on average)
3-2-A right? How come you could messed up that badly?
In comparison, I only lost 10 bauxite per sortie. And that's using only torpedo bombers on carriers.

>> No.12219660

Think so. All blue planes with one green if I remember correctly.

I don't really understand how air combat works to be honest. Wiki briefly explains what each type of plane does, but doesn't really go into detail what kind of setups would be best for different situations.

I also don't know what determines how much baux you lose. Is it just the amount of AA enemy fleets have that determines plane loss? Or are certain plane types more susceptible to AA so they get shot down easier or something?

How does using only torpedo bombers use less baux than having fighters or dive bombers in 3-2-a?

>> No.12219748

> horrible camo colors
Fuck you, your mother and your dog. Her pants look at least four times more appealing in camo.

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>> No.12219866

Takao or myoko?

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>> No.12219881

Hopefully Takao. Myouko is ugly.

>> No.12219887

Myoukou of course

>> No.12219888

>Error Ko
Oh wow.

>> No.12219889

It will make her prettier.

>> No.12219917

After what Bob pulled with Haguro, Sendai Class and Tone class, you still think Myouko is ugly?

>> No.12219920

Bob's haters exist, anon.

>> No.12219922

Haguro is not that good

>> No.12219938

She's great

>> No.12219941

best k2?
Sendai > Tone > Jintsuu > Haguro > Chikuma > Naka

>> No.12219945


>> No.12219948

I honestly don't know what people find in bob's kai2.

>> No.12219950

Big improvement.

>> No.12219951

She went from least cute Myoukou class to cutest Myoukou class with her kai ni, so I have great expectations of the rest.

>> No.12219954

Improvement doesn't mean it's good, especially when it was it was really bad.

>> No.12219958

Mutsuki&Kisaragi K2/art update when? I want black vests.

>> No.12219960

>Wanting your girls to change uniforms.

>> No.12219963
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>Improvement doesn't mean it's good
Then don't call it an improvement.

As for bob's kai2s, I think they're great. Haguro's eyes look a bit too iffy for me though.

>> No.12219965

Black vests are cuter then sailor uniforms. Souta agreed.

>> No.12219966

Best bob* Kai 2?
Sendai > Jintsuu > Chikuma > Haguro > Tone > Naka

>> No.12219967

It wouldn't suit them.

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A bit too buglike.

>> No.12219971

Makigumo-san do you have problems with reading comprehension?
If you improve shit it doesn't make it good, just less shit. (not saying his art is shit).

>> No.12219975

I wonder, he might be able to do it right. He really improved.

>> No.12219978

This month I've tried to rank I've only learned that all my shipgirls are absolute trash and that there are only a handful exceptions that are actually worth using.

>> No.12219979

Who were the good girls?

>> No.12219980
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And here I thought I was alone on this.

"Improvement" implies something positive, you could have just called them "changes". And you could have explained that earlier.

>> No.12219983


Jintsuu = Sendai > Rest.

>> No.12219985

Improvement is always relative. 2/10 is an improvement over 1/10, but that doesn't mean 2/10 is good.

>> No.12219986

Yamato-class,, Kongous excluding Kongou, Souryuu/Hiryuu, Taihou, Haguro and Zuihou.
I leveled Haruna from level 17 to 97 without her being crit to red once, basically the only reason being scratch damage after several orange sorties.

>> No.12219991


Why not Ashigara?

>> No.12219994

Because she doesn't fit the hint for the next CA Kai Ni?

>> No.12219995


What was the hint?

>> No.12219996

Just cut off this "my options > your options" bull shit . It is personal taste

>> No.12219998
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Have you started leveling your Myoukous yet for their inevitable kai2s?

>> No.12220001

Only Takao or Myoukou fits this.

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>> No.12220003

Camouflaged CA

>> No.12220004

Started on Nachi (46), since she's my favorite Myoukou class, but switched over to Myoukou (29) with the recent hint. Going slowly, but a week and a half should be more than enough.

>> No.12220006

Yeah, back when Haguro got her Kai Ni. Ashigara is at 57, Myokou is at 48, and Nachi is at 35.

>> No.12220009

Since we're so comfortably on the topic of kai nis, what CV kai ni are you expecting and preparing for? Assuming you don't just have them all at 80+ already.

>> No.12220010

Chikuma, Sendai Class, and Haguro are all definitely prettier. Haguro was already decent looking, and the sendai class as well.
Tone is still lacking in appeal though. And yes, Myouko is still ugly.

>> No.12220011 [DELETED] 

I can't find Nachi but start leveling Myoukou for 2-5 quest, what the nice timing

>> No.12220013

Souryuu before Midway, maybe cranes during it.

>> No.12220014

I've been leveling them for a while now. Ashigara was one of my first CAs and while I first found her kind of annoying, her personality grew on me. Same happened with Sendai.

>> No.12220016

>maybe cranes during it.
There is no reason for them to get Kai 2 during Midway and not Akagi/Kaga
>inbefore but they survived Midway by not being there at all.

>> No.12220018

I know, I know. A man can dream, you know.

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Have you treated any of your Kanmusu this way?

>> No.12220021

I'm working on Souryuu, everyone else is pretty much ready.

>> No.12220022

Nagara, Natori, Murasame and Shiratsuyu come to mind.

>> No.12220024

Don't care about card collecting right now, so I guess the closest is how I got Chitose and Chiyoda to 50 just to use them in my support fleet.

>> No.12220036

Makigumo is made for this comic.

>> No.12220037


Everyone is at 80, that should be enough.

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I really hope it's Souryuu. She's the cutest standard carrier, after all.

>> No.12220091

>Started on Nachi (46)
Impeccable tastes.

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I hope Soryuu is the next to get a kai2. And that she won't lose her smile.

>> No.12220111

Souryuu gets fucked badly in Midway.
So does Kaga.

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>> No.12220118


But Kaga has no smile to lose, so nothing would change.

>> No.12220127
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Fuck Re, seriously.

>> No.12220154

What if she gains a really creepy smile instead? Like damaged Shiranui.

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Never thought I'd see other Nachifag here.

>> No.12220176

Or even worse - becomes genki due to brain damage/mental scars/trauma?

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Keep going. One of my successful runs was with Akagi medium damaged by the first node too.

>> No.12220186

Also loses her sidetail for character development.

>> No.12220190

I know, but as expected Wo Kai raped Hiryuu in the next node.

>> No.12220241

What would be the best place to train if I want to level everything that got a kai2 recently in one go?

Haguro, Tone, night battle ninja and still need to level Kirishima to kai2.

Should I head to 4-3 or would 5-4 be better?

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>> No.12220253

5-4 probably.

>> No.12220257

It takes roughly 380 3-2-1 runs to get a CA from 5 to 65.
290 in 5-4.

>> No.12220258

5-4 but you need to bring 2 CV/CVLs

>> No.12220275

Will this work for multiple CAs without BBs?

>> No.12220277

290 runs?
What if I do all three nodes?

>> No.12220278

Yeah, if you don't use shit equipment

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>> No.12220290

94 full 5-4 runs and 1-2 pvp runs should be able to get you to 65 from level 5.
That's also assuming you just get S rank, and flagship exp, not MVP + FS.
If your CA/CAV somehow manages MVP + FS, that's around 47-50 runs.

>> No.12220293

If you don't mind buckets then why not.

>> No.12220299

For multiple nodes sortie, I think 5-2 is better. The carrier requirement for same three nodes is much less, and there's a chance that if you are detoured to south, you can do 4 nodes + get bauxite node.

>> No.12220417

So is there a possibility every single ship would get the Kai-ni treatment? There's a few who need it badly for stats and popularity sake.

>> No.12220421

I doubt Yamato and Musashi would.
And the Nagato class, and Agano class.

>> No.12220423

Was trying to figure out how many red planes I'll need to craft for my support fleet CVLs. Am I right in concluding that 2-star Suiseis are enough?

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>> No.12220430

>popularity sake.
Kai2 doesn't make ships popular.

>> No.12220431

>And the Nagato class
It hurts me.

>> No.12220437

Yuudachi got a major boost in popularity with her kai ni.
Every kai ni by bob did the same, notably Tone and Chikuma.

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>> No.12220440

Then, could you give me a hint on how much total firepower I'll want per carrier?

>> No.12220448

Then there's the Kongous' but I think it's mostly poking fun of Konishi's terrible updated art. Isuzu Kai Ni's fans aren't many, but she wasn't that popular in the first place.

>> No.12220455

She doesn't seem much more popular and so don't RJ or Haguro.
If anything it just gives people a reason to use them.

>> No.12220457

Konishi's kai2s are fine, people are just overreacting about the ears.

Looking forward to Haruna kai2

>> No.12220459

Yamato might, actually. It's gonna cost a fortune, but that'd make her the only ship with 5 slots.

>> No.12220464

If I have to google a ship girl's name to check out what she looks like again, then she's not popular.

>> No.12220471

Nagato class and Yamato class are already op as it is.
Agano class are LSC only/Event only with the exception of Agano, which only drops at 5-4.
Yamato class are similar as well.
And I know, Bismarck has a Zwei, but that's because she needs it, being weak and all.
But if they do, then Agano and her sisters, Yamato, and Nagato would be so overpowered it'd make all the other ships need a kai san.
Historically however, they did have constant remodels.
Especially the Nagato class.
>5 slots
Ha, I hope not.

>> No.12220474

But that's the point, they're supposed to be OP.

>> No.12220480

They can't be OP when they eat resources like a truck.

>> No.12220482

They don't have to.

>> No.12220484

But like this they will be inferior to the kai2 ships. And Agano class won't stay LSC-only forever. Agano was just the first step.

>> No.12220489

Nagatos aren't that OP anymore and nobody uses the Aganos.

>> No.12220499

Nagato and Mutsu still have better armor, and firepower and AA than the Kongo Kai-ni, sans Kirishima.
Same amount of fuel wasted too. Only reason why you would use fast ships over slow is due to branching rules.
Yamato and Musashi still lack an actual need for Kai-ni.

I do.
Cause Sendai, Jintsu, and Naka take too long to level up.

>> No.12220510

>I do.
What do you even use CL for? And Agano class is actually quite weak except for AA.

>> No.12220515

You need to consider the historical side of things too though. Not that I know much about it.

>> No.12220519

I know. Nagato and Mutsu did receive a lot of refits.
Don't know much about Mutsu, but Nagato did receive a couple of radars and more FP.
Not sure about the Yamato class though.

Love. And random sorties when I'm bored.

>> No.12220523

Whats the recommended setup for this? I still dont get 5-4's branching.

>> No.12220526

2CV, 1 BB, 2 ships of your choice, flagship.
Make sure you have a ship that can hold 4 drums.

>> No.12220682

>Their nation in shambles, people starving, they'll never reach their former glory or dominate Europe again...
Die Mannschaft and various carmakers disagree.

>> No.12220723


Can't believe there are germans that actually belive this. They have neig whoring halve of Europe for the last 5 years while pretending to be good willed and altruist guys.

>> No.12220747

So is there a maint today?

>> No.12220759

Yeah, 17 minutes left.. have you done all the necessary expedition?

>> No.12220760

That anon was trying to be sarcastic.

>> No.12220787

So now that the devs announced that the anime won't be airing till Fall, we can expect midway to be hard, right?

>> No.12220794

>Next Maintenance: 04 July, 2014


>> No.12220803

You bet.

>> No.12220808

Assuming you're not shitting people, I haven't heard of the anime shifting to Fall. Any source to back it up?

>> No.12220810


Check their twitter.

>> No.12220812

What's your reasoning?
Why do you expect that it won't be hard in the first place?


>> No.12220818

It just says the Vita game is expected this fall

>> No.12220822

Yeah, I would've seen a similar tweet from the anime handle by then too, but none from them.

>> No.12220825

To be fair the anime twitter is nothing but a glorified billboard for Kancolle-related merchandise.

>> No.12220832

>Why do you expect that it won't be hard in the first place?
It's that one anon who keeps theorizing about how they'll casualize the game to appeal to the anime fans.

>> No.12220843

Not even that, it says they plan to release more information about the vita game this fall. Basically, they're just reminding us the projects exist. And since the next anime season is in a few weeks I doubt it's coming then.

>> No.12220844

What they meant is they'll delay Midway and give us another easy event before Midway. Nobody has ever mentioned that Midway is going to be easy.

>> No.12220881

Considering the hype and 「I want to sink Kaga at Midway」 comment, it's going to be very disappointing if Midway would be an easy event.

>> No.12220888

>「I want to sink Kaga at Midway」 comment

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>> No.12220901

How is a few trolls trying to stir up shit with admirals who like Kaga relevant to an official event?

>> No.12220917

>It just says the Vita game is expected this fall
It says more information about the Vita game is expected this fall.

>> No.12220920

It just keeps getting worse.

>> No.12220955

I miss when the vita game was "Spring 2014"

>> No.12220972

I even saved up money for importing the game, god damn it.

>> No.12220983

What're the chances of it getting a localization? I can into JP, but a cheaper localized version would be better.

>> No.12220986

>What're the chances of it getting a localization?
Lower than our Sun disappearing without a trace tomorrow.

>> No.12221000

Towyen, if you're here and typesetting Kantai Kindergarten 7, A second version in traditional chinese (which I can understand better) has been uploaded, and it differs from the other translation slightly (and is significantly cleaner) here

I'll also be making changes to the translation in the pastebin (http://pastebin.com/edit.php?i=S2ymVBac)

Hope this gets to you before you finish

>> No.12221026

Alright, I'm just starting 18 so I'll go back and update what I've covered so far. Those were the scans I was using anyway so no loss in quality.

>> No.12221029

awesome, sorry for the trouble.

>> No.12221100

Actually no, it says that there are no plans for the Vita game, but they'll meet this fall to discuss the possibility of making one.

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>> No.12221106

>AmiAmi: Your order is ready for payment
>Kantai Collection -Kan Colle- Bath Time Collection: Shimakaze

>> No.12221107

Fuck you dude.

>> No.12221144

Didn't get that, but I did just pay for my Zero Fighter Model 52 (Saitama Shuho Fairy Version) Tabletop USB Fan yesterday on AmiAmi as well.

>> No.12221154

Your jelly is showing.

>> No.12221312

Do you guys sparkle your DDs every single time for expeditions? Sparkling them and getting extra resources is fine and all, but it's boring as hell.

>> No.12221318

I only do it for exp5, can't be arsed to do it for exp6 too.

>> No.12221322

I used to, but it makes me sick nowadays

>> No.12221323

A nighttime lottery huh, that's new. Numbers are a bit lower too from back in the day, or after arpeggio.

>> No.12221325

No. I do pvp sparkle exp 36 when I go to sleep but other than that, I run 6, 21 and 38. 21 and 38 is fine without sparkling and I can't be arsed to sparkle a 40 minute expedition

>> No.12221330

Don't need to when you've broken cap

>> No.12221343

I only sparkle when I need the resources or for long expeditions, Otherwise take it easy

>> No.12221345

You can choose between your resources and your sanity. Every time I have to sparkle a ship something inside me dies.

>> No.12221354

Only expedition 36.

>> No.12221396

I sparkle anything greater than 3 hours since it's probably worth the extra gain, but my SAN points are being depleted because of it.

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Only for long expeditions, huh? I'll keep that in mind.

You and me both.

Sanity pls.

Now that that's settled, what do /jp/ admirals listen to while tending to your ship waifus? Anyone here listen to Kancolle doujin arranges or songs? I'm partial to anime OSTs but I enjoy a bit of Hachimitsu Lemon every now and then.

>【艦これChillout】 海の底へ 「Hachimitsu-Lemon」

>> No.12221400


Denpa all day erry day. Mosaic.wav Naanahira and Odenpa Studio.

>> No.12221408

I remember someone in this thread was using some nip script to auto-sparkle his ships.

>> No.12221411


this makes grinding 3-2 so easy...


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>> No.12221460

>Now that that's settled, what do /jp/ admirals listen to while tending to your ship waifus?
put this on loop: http://youtu.be/ERI2TIKgR4o

I'll need more catchy kancolle songs.

>> No.12221470

>No Haruna or Taihou

>> No.12221477


you alreaady lost by not including Shigure or Yuudachi.

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Can't really blame him for not including those two.

But he's not looking for pet.

>> No.12221514

but they are weak and only for looking at

I should mention I'm also maxing their luck

>> No.12221520

Who are you waifu(s)?

>> No.12221526

I marry every girl who reaches 99 to honor their efforts.

>> No.12221528

Not gonna vote.

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Now and forever.

>> No.12221530

>not asking for it
Oh fuck my sides.

>> No.12221531

If you think Yuudachi is useful your vote is invalid anyway

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The only choice.

>> No.12221540

If you think Yuudachi isn't useful your opinion is invalid anyway.

>> No.12221543

Read what you posted again and see if it makes sense.

>> No.12221547

She's outlcassed by the Shima/Yuki/Amatsukaze

Doesn't even have the free luck of Shigure/Ayanami

>> No.12221555

That's a good joke, did you start playing today or you don't even play? Shimakaze isn't even one of the top 3 DDs.

>> No.12221557

Err no, she's actually tied best with Amatsukaze

>> No.12221559

>outclassing Yuudachi
>Shimakaze tied best with Amatsukaze
Amatsukaze can't even outclass Bep, let alone Yuudachi. And I'll pick Yuudachi over Shimakaze any day.

And Shigure's high luck makes her far from useless, too.

>> No.12221561

So you don't have any idea, that explains everything.

>> No.12221565

Only in wearing lewd outfits

>> No.12221566

Nah, Shimakaze has Amatsukaze beat in terms of lewd outfits.

>> No.12221569

Oh I just read the stat charts on the wikia I see she has higher firepower, now it all makes sense.

Man I was an arse. I thought the only important stat for DDs was their armour and hp. Maybe I should follow the set-up guide on the forums and give all my DDs double attack set-ups, it sounds pretty strong!

>> No.12221575

That's the usual setup except for girls with high luck like Yukikaze, Shigure and Ayanami now, these three are better off with cut-in setup.

>> No.12221579

You're a fucking idiot

>> No.12221581

Is it the time where the wiki start shitting retards into the thread again?

>> No.12221582

Really now.

>> No.12221586

Okay that was harsh, I'll admit you have the basics but I wouldn't say you're good .... or very smart

>> No.12221587

>Oh I just read the stat charts on the wikia I see she has higher firepower, now it all makes sense.
>I thought the only important stat for DDs was their armour and hp.
My fucking sides.

Nah, armour and HP are shit for DDs, they can't take a hit anyway. What's important are firepower, evasion, torpedo and luck stats. Firepower for day battle. Night battle requires firepower and torpedo stats, and maybe luck stat depending on the setup (cut-in needs luck, double attack doesn't). And evasion for dodging stuff, which is also very important for DDs.

If you want, AA might come into use too, but that's about it for important stats for DDs.


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>> No.12221590

What else would you equip a Yukikaze if not two torps and an AA gun or radar for the third slot?

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>> No.12221594

I decided to count some of them manually because I have autism.
Shimakaze and Kongou are obviously 1st and 2nd respectively so I didn't count theirs.

Shoukaku 109
Yamato 90
Akagi 83
Kaga 75
Taihou 70
Atago 64
Inazuma 60
Hibiki 49
Zuikaku 41
Ikazuchi 41
Akatsuki 36

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>> No.12221598

2 torps and fleshlight

>> No.12221603

It depends on the map you are going to send her to sortie, ASW is useless in 2-5 and any map without subs.

I hope you mean searchlight, but that's a bit too risky sometimes.

>> No.12221609

Thanks, will check them out.

My fucking ears. Really perks you up though.

My fucking sides. Thanks for sharing! Here, try:

>【艦これVocal】 栄光なる勝利を 「Pizuya's Cell」


>【艦これVocal】「幽閉カタルシス」 - 沈黙のカナデ

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I dont know about you guys but firepower is pretty irrelevant to DD imo.
I highly value cuteness, evasion and torpedo which shimakaze and yukikaze excel in.
Fresh off clearing hiryuu quest with them.

>> No.12221614


Star shells are a good choice for that 3rd slot if you're trying to stack night bonuses. No risk vs. the fleshlight.

>> No.12221615

I forgot about those, but now that you mention it, yes they are.

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Who wagahai here?

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Warning: Not for the faint of heart.

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Where's that Kumano in her natural habitat video when I need it.

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Today's theme is self plugs for things you'll never see.

>> No.12221699


Cuteness is subjective. Evasion I'll give you that. But torp stat is not as useful as firepower. In fact even where they're useful, Yuudachi can deal more damage at night than Shimakaze can. Ayanami only trails Shimakaze by 1 point.

From the looks of it, you're going purely by evasion.

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And it's done. Something I've been wondering, do you think this is big enough to warrant reducing the image size?

>> No.12221715


A bit late, but here.


>> No.12221723

Thanks for the translation, Anon. As for the size, it fits well on 4chan, but the full size is a bit too big imo. Meh, better highres than lowres.

>> No.12221754


I chuckled.

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>> No.12221822

From what I have seen, star shells don't have 100% chance to proc in night battle unlike the searchlight.

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>> No.12221829

Is that new recon plane useful?

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>> No.12221846

What happened to her(?) resources?

>> No.12221864

Has anyone tested the new recon plane in 2-5 nightbattlefuckery? Does it stop the Rillette?

>> No.12221866

Midway date soon?

>> No.12221868

Was it supposed to do that?

>> No.12221870

Doesn't stop it all the time, but it's pretty great overall. Recon+flare is the way to go.

>> No.12221873

My night recon plane doesn't even show up during night battle, not sure what I am missing.

>> No.12221876

It doesn't always work, so that's normal.

>> No.12221877

I don't whether I read it wrong, but I think the new recon doesn't work in night battle node. It requires air superiority or something, while night battle does not have the aerial phase.

>> No.12221879

My bad. Was under the impression that it also decreased the enemy fleet hit rate.

>> No.12221880

Recon + flare + searchlight?

>> No.12221882

Searchlight doesn't affect your enemies.

>> No.12221884

Searchlight is the only one with 100% chance to active.
Night recon plane doesn't work in night battle only node, while flare is around 50/50 chance to active.
This is what I got after some test runs.

>> No.12221887

Do Searchlights stack if I bring more that one to a night battle?

>> No.12221890

Only the first one active I think.

>> No.12221891

Yes it does.

>> No.12221894

Was this tested? Because it's supposed to do.

>> No.12221896

No. Flares do though.

>> No.12221897

I had much better activation rate for flare. Only used it in pvp though.

>> No.12221911

I mean, it doesn't hinder their attack power.

>> No.12221988

So I haven't played in a while, is bismarck actually worth crafting now with the buffs? The stats on the 2 new kai ni's are really impressive too, considering the items they come with on remodel they're definitely worth it, but how about where they stand individually in their respective class? Does Ayanami take Amatsukaze's slot in a 6 destroyer fleet?

>> No.12221995

It shows the icon of the recon in the night node of 2-5, so it probably works.

>> No.12221999

>So I haven't played in a while, is bismarck actually worth crafting now with the buffs?
Its still the same.
Only craft for bismarck if you like her or want her in your fleet. If you're just looking for a FBB to field then just level the 4 kongous.

>Does Ayanami take Amatsukaze's slot in a 6 destroyer fleet?
It depends. Personally, I wont even bother leveling Ayanami and keep Amatsukaze in my DD fleet because I already have enough elite DDs and don't want to level another one but some people like her kai2 and are willing to put in the effort for her.

>> No.12222003

Ayanami Kai 2 is way better than Amatsukaze.
And Bismarck is still pretty medicore overall.

>> No.12222022
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Or they just want to fill their kantaidex. She's gonna keep company the Z girls at 70.

>> No.12222028

I've always thought Tone was pretty tall or average height at least.

Why does everyone draw her so short?

>> No.12222032

Why is Tone such a good girl? She gave all she had away.

>> No.12222034


Newfag here. Bismarck being weaker than some almost 30 year old BBs is a bad precedent for any foreign ship they plan to add in the future. If they .

Of course, Bismarck would never come close to Moosashi or The Hotel but she should be the third most powerful BB.

>> No.12222046

Except for speed, Bismarck didn't have much better stats on paper compared to Nagato-class.

>> No.12222075

Bismarck was weak in real life though.
She was only slightly stronger and a bit faster than Kongou, and slightly bigger.

Nagato and Mutsu were not only lighter, but they had more fire power, and all around better armor.
Germans were terrible when it came to naval warfare compared to Brits, US, and IJN.
Third most powerful BB should, and will always be Nagato, since she is a part of the Big 7. Unless they bring in the USS Colorado, Maryland, or West Virginia.

>> No.12222078

She is shorter than Chikuma, while being older.
People just take that to another extreme sometime.
Bismarck should be better than Kongou class at least, but since the Devs are a bunch of Kongou fags, she ended up being worse than them in almost everything aside from HP and armor.

>> No.12222084

Actually, forgot about North Carolina, which had a bit more FP than Colorado, Maryland, and WV.

>> No.12222092

Because muh nippon strong not cause dev is Kongou fags and all the foreign ships in future will be treat like Bismarck

>> No.12222095

Weren't Kongou class useful in the war or something? That would explain their status.

>> No.12222097

The Kongous are also too strong compared to IJN ships like Nagato-class

Most useful BB, which doesn't say too much for ww2 though.

>> No.12222100

>dev is Kongou fags
>will be treat like Bismarck
I agree with you, but learn some grammar first before using "muh".

>> No.12222101

They were the most active IJN BBs during the war due to their speed.

>> No.12222108

Bismarck was shitty. It spent more time running away than in actual battle.
Considering it was only in service for 8 months, and had a laughable end.
Tirpitz on the other hand, was actually useful.
Plus, it's not like Germany had any notable naval ships anyway. So quit bitching about German ships sucking dick in game, when they did in real life.

Kongou class aren't OP compared to Nagato class.
They're equal at the moment sans AA, speed and health stats. And that's without the Nagatos having a Kai-ni.

>> No.12222114

The thing is that historically they should be weaker than the Nagato-class. And I don't see Nagato-class Kai-2 anytime soon.

>> No.12222120

But they seem to take account of ships actual war records too.

>> No.12222121

Their kai 2 would cost blueprints anyway.

>> No.12222122

Fuso Kai-2 when? What happened to the BBV kai-2 plan anyway?

>> No.12222124

German ships spent the majority of their careers in the docks, there is no basis to call them good or bad.

>> No.12222128

Reserved for Leyte Gulf event maybe.

>> No.12222130

Taihou still has good stats despite having no noteworthy war records.

>> No.12222132

It's not only based on them.
And just wait until they make luck relevant for carriers too.

>> No.12222149

I never got why someone would draw a really cute girl, and then include a huge naked man who completely blocks the view of her when he fucks her.

>> No.12222154


If they do that, Shinano will be literally the worst CV of the game.

And you know she won't be.

To >>12222108
>Bismarck was shitty. It spent more time running away than in actual battle.

Because that was her mission. Destroy the british convoys while being able to take on any ship from the Royal Navy 1 on 1. She had the bad luck of being hit with a torpedo on her helm, which was what sealed her fate. Otherwise, she'd have been a real headache for the Royal Navy due to her incredible autonomy, speed and firepower.

>Tirpitz on the other hand, was actually useful.

The only thing Tirpitz did was raiding the Artic convoys to Russia.

> it's not like Germany had any notable naval ships anyway

Learn to history:


tfw this ship actually makes it to the game. Haguro is nothing compared to her.


>Nagato and Mutsu were not only lighter, but they had more fire power, and all around better armor.

Nagato and Mutsu were lighter but slower than Bismarck and they had a thinner armour. The only thing the Nagatos were better than Bismarck was on their main armamment.

>> No.12222155

What's the best composition for 5-3? Other than 2 DDs and fast ships, the wiki's really bare on details.

Also, searchlights, flares and night seaplane. How fucked am I without them? Not even a single one of them here.

>> No.12222161

>Also, searchlights, flares and night seaplane. How fucked am I without them? Not even a single one of them here.
Anon please. There used to be a time when these didn't exist. Deal with it.

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>> No.12222164

Spoiler this kuso.

>> No.12222165

I cleared that shithole without any of them. And that was after the spring update.
2DD/2CA/2FastBB fleet.
Though it's better for you to just ignore 5-3 for now. Midway is coming soon, and you shouldn't waste your resources and bucket for 5-3.

>> No.12222166

1CL5DD is how real men do it.

>> No.12222167

They were trumped by the Royal Navy, and spend most of the time in the docks because they knew it would be futile anyway to spend most time in the sea facing the USN and Royal Navy.
Their surface ships lacked considerable fire power, as well as armor. The only real naval power they had came from their subs. They also lacked leadership on the naval side.
Hell, one of Hitler's few right calls was giving up naval surface battles, scrapping the rest of the ships which were shit anyway, and using the scraps to build subs.
And even then, the uboats were used primarily to harass countries and supply lines.

>> No.12222172

>Graf Spee
CA-equippable 28cm guns, oh yes.

The only foreign ship that could make me happier is Furious.

>> No.12222175

No love for Albacore?

>> No.12222177

Too big a bully.

>> No.12222183


Sending ships purposely to their deaths.

Literally kuso.

>> No.12222194

The only obvious advantage the Royal Navy and The USN had over the Kriegsmarine was numbers. Every major naval engagement the Germans lost was usually due to the superior numbers of the allies. This is why they focused on the U-Boat doctrine in order to squeeze GB into surrendering, which still failed again to the allies having superior numbers and developing tactics to counter Subs. Where the hell are you pulling the "German ships suck" from?

>> No.12222205


From his ass of course.

If he read about the exploits from the german surface raiders on the atlantic he'll shut up.

>> No.12222207

I just wanted to know if they help. Sheesh.

Got it. Stockpiling gets boring though. I also want to get to E-5 for some medals and battle rating boosts.

A real man I'll be then.

>> No.12222211

>A real man I'll be then.
I hope your buckets are ready.

>> No.12222215

Major naval engagements like?

>> No.12222218

Hitler himself.

>> No.12222226

You mean 5-5.
And it won't be an easy trip like 1-5 and 2-5.

>> No.12222227

You mean the same fucker who lost the war that was his to lose?

>> No.12222236

Fuck, sorry for that. And thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

I'm sweating buckets right now.

>> No.12222240


Wrong. Hittler was all about the surface fleet to show off some cannons to the populace. If he had paid heed to Raeder advice on full unrestricted submarine navy, Britland would have suffered a lot more and maybe the U-Boats would have won the battle of thee Atlantic. All the effort building Tirpitz and Bimarck would have been directed toward sub building.

>> No.12222246

You mean the person in charge of developing the ships that he pushed for, yeah.
Face it, they were shit. The Kriegsmarine knew their ships were shit as well, and Hitler did too.

I'm not saying U-boats are shit. I'm saying the german surface boats were shit.
Hence why Hitler called them all off, ordered them to be scrapped down, and made into U-boats.

>> No.12222257

>Hence why Hitler called them all off, ordered them to be scrapped down, and made into U-boats.

Welp, I have better stuff to do, like leveling Tone.

>> No.12222260

Also, the IJN were outnumbered most of the time, and yet they had more of a significant presence on the waters than Germans did. Why? Cause German ships are shit. SHIT.

Good. Level a ship that isn't German. It can save your fleet and resources.

>> No.12222266


Literally changed his mouth for his ass.

>> No.12222290

Battle of the North Cape, Battle of the Denmark Strait (Aftermath)

Hitler was dissatisfied with the the direction most naval engagements went and often clashed with his head admiral, Erich Raeder, much in the same way he argued with his field marshals and ended up loosing the war. You're looking to the wrong authority here.

Japan had the third largest navy when they entered the war while Germany was forced to keep a 35% ratio to the Royal Navy.
There is no basis to call German surface ships shit as they had no equal engagements with the RN. The few times they did, like Battle of the Denmark Strait, they won.

>> No.12222291

Hitler was a bit of a hypocrite, and a bullshitter, yes.
He did convince most of his country that he wasn't a jew, and ended up losing more battles that could've been won.

>> No.12222315

It's really sad that a game which heavily takes from real events in the past hasn't innspired some people to actually inform thenselves about the topic at hand here.

I'd confess that I was a complete eurofag that only knew in detail about the War in Europe, North Africa, Middle East and the Atlantic but Kancolle had actually made me interested in the Pacific War and (Oh, the horror), read about the USN.

>> No.12222316

I wouldn't call those battles major engagements of the fleets since too few ships were involved.

And the size of Japans navy was limited due to treaties, too.

>> No.12222322


Have you forgotte already that the Battle of Midway, which decided halve of the pacific war, was (arguably) only fought by 7 carriers and a sub?

>> No.12222346

Do you really need to add arguably stuff to make those engagements sound more major than they were?

>> No.12222351

It got me to read naval warfare in general. It's a very good thing for a game to get people interested in such a crucial part of world history.

One bit that I especially liked is that HMS Dreadnought, in addition to revolutionizing battleship design, was also the only battleship to sink a submarine. The submarine in question made the mistake of surfacing near the battleship after a torpedo salvo, and promptly got run over by 20,000 tons of steel.

>> No.12222357

There aren't many huge naval battles like in the Pacific, and even fewer that had capital ships engage each other. the German navy in WWII was far from the powerhouse that enabled it to fight in battles like Jutland from WWI. Naturally, this lead to much smaller engagements. The few times that the capital ships did engage each other were strategically important set pieces like Denmark.

Also unlike the Germans, Japan did not adhere to its treaties as the Germans did. The Washington Naval Treaty was renounced long before the start of hostilities between the IJN and USN, while the Anglo-German Naval Agreement was renounced only half a year before WWII started in Europe.

>> No.12222363


It's arguably because some people would add the whole japanese combined fleet as participants but the only ships that saw action were the 4 japanese CVs and the 3 Americas plus I-158 which was what really sunk Yorktown.

>> No.12222366

The Germans didn't adhere to the treaties either, the whole Deutschland-class CA went against those treaties.

how about:
4 carriers
2 battleships
2 heavy cruisers
1 light cruiser
12 destroyers
248 carrier-based aircraft[2]
16 floatplanes

Did not participate in battle:
2 light carriers
5 battleships
6 cruisers
~35 support ships

>> No.12222377

The Germans built good ships, but they were still outnumbered practically 11-1. The Germans didn't even reach the 35% mark when hostilities erupted. Not helping was the fact that the Kriegsmarine was third in priority for German rearmament. Also the Deutschland-class CAs were in accordance with Versailles.

>> No.12222380

>Also the Deutschland-class CAs were in accordance with Versailles

No, look at Graf Spee displacement.

>> No.12222386

Deutschland-class was nowhere near the other treaty-busting monstrosities like Mogami-class CLs, 15,000 ton CAs and huge ass torpedo boats, though.

The Germans had limitations and they worked to create the most potent ship within their limits. The Japanese built whatever they damn well pleased and then pretended they weren't violating the Washington treaty to an increasingly skeptical audience, and when they could no longer keep feeding that bullshit, they just up and withdrew.

>> No.12222391

Sure if you want to go on technicalities, but
>When the particulars of the design became known by the Allies, they attempted to prevent Germany from building them....Since the ships did not violate the terms of the Treaty, the Allies could not prevent Germany from building them after a negotiated settlement proved unattainable.

>> No.12222394

Japan, unlike Germany, didn't lose a war and had to accept whatever the winners wanted.

>> No.12222398

The allies were pussies who didn't do anything whatever Hitler did what went against the treaty because they didn't want another war. Until he attacked Poland.

>> No.12222404

>The allies were pussies who didn't do anything whatever Hitler did what went against the treaty because they didn't want another war.
Learn to construct your fucking sentences.
Poland is too cute to bully.

>> No.12222405

Where is this argument even going now? I think by now it is apparent that Germans built damn fine ships, but were forced to stay quiet due to the imbalance of power.

>> No.12222411

It's not an argument, it's a discussion

>> No.12222415

Are there any Italian ships that could make it in?

>> No.12222417


All of this started because we were trying to determine if Bismarck is underpowered to her real life conterpart.

Then, some retard started saying german ships were shit and it came to this.

I personally still believe Bismarck is superior to Nagato and Mutsu in everything but armament.

>> No.12222430


My nigga.

One man can dream and I'm not even Italian. I just want to see how well they design th characters and what kind of Flamboyant personalities they'd give to BBs like Giulio Cesare or Vittorio Venetto.

Plus Italians were hella good BBs designers. Even the british engineers after the war recognized that Vittorio Venetto and Littorio had a better design than any british ship.

>> No.12222431

Why do people say that in-game Bismark is shit? Aside from AA she's pretty much the same as the Kongous with more HP.

>> No.12222443

Somewhat unlikely, but Vittorio Veneto and her sisters are fairly popular. I'm partial to Faa di Bruno, though, since she's such an insane design. But she only served as a floating battery during WWII and was never quite seaworthy, so her chances of getting in are near zero.

Oh well, my country has an even lower chance of having a ship represented. We did fuck all during WWII, and our most famous ship weighs some 300 tons.

>> No.12222446

No but seriously, Italia's navy wasn't as good either.
So at most, probably just Littorio or VV.

She's not shit. She just doesn't deserve to be the third stronest battleship after Yamato and Musashi.

>> No.12222447

> Aside from AA she's pretty much the same as the Kongous with more HP.
You mean aside from more HP and Armor she is worse than Kongous Kai Ni in everything.
Consider she is a LSC only ship, and her Zwei Remodel also requires a blueprint, you can say that she doesn't worth the cost for what she can offer.
Lazy Zwei art also hurts her reputation.

>> No.12222449

>she's pretty much the same as the Kongous
You pretty much answered your own question. Bismarck is the hardest currently buildable ship to obtain, and she's at the level of ships that drop from non-boss nodes in early maps. She also has higher consumption than the Kongous and requires a blueprint to reach her full potential for no particular reason.

So they make your ass off to get her, and she's supposed to be the pride of the German navy the same way Yamato was the pride of the Japanese navy, and it turns out there's pretty much no reason to use her over the easily obtainable Kongous.

>> No.12222455
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My god shes ugly

>> No.12222456

If another nation is gonna get, it'll be Italy (for now).

Don't expect anything game-breaking stats-wise but we could definitely get some nice girls out of it.

>> No.12222479

Come on now, the cheesebox raftcannon era was fun. She isn't even the most insane design from these times, since the Royal Navy, never to be outdone, went ahead and successfully mounted 46cm cannons on two destroyers.

Besides, it'd be easy to represent her as a loli sitting on a cannon almost as big as she is.

>> No.12222482

>successfully mounted 46cm cannons on two destroyers

Please pics, I want to fap to that tonight.

>> No.12222494

Lord Clive and Wolfe were monitors equipped with 46cms.

>> No.12222495
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Here's a ship of their type. I was somewhat exaggerating their smallness, but these ships were still in between WWII destroyers and light cruisers in size, dominated almost entirely by their unholy massive guns.

>> No.12222498

I'm still baffled at how it could've withstood the blowback without toppling over.

>> No.12222499

Monitor =/= Destroyer
A monitor was meant to be small, and equipped with huge weaponry.

>> No.12222505 [DELETED] 

The blowback doesn't actually move the ship much, you should recall that ships themselves tend to be very heavy. But you might be interested in the Russian ship Novgorod, the infamous spinning top monitor, which went to show that if you make a circular ship and fill it to the brim with huge guns, you're going to have an experience very similar to serving in a gigantic dishwasher.

Fair point. I was only calling them destroyers as a measure of size, not of role. And even then they're a fair bit bigger than that.

>> No.12222506

The blowback doesn't actually move the ship much, you should recall that ships themselves tend to be very heavy. But you might be interested in the Russian ship Novgorod, the infamous spinning top monitor, which went to show that if you make a circular ship and fill it to the brim with huge guns, you're going to have an experience very similar to serving in a gigantic washing machine.

Fair point. I was only calling them destroyers as a measure of size, not of role. And even then they're a fair bit bigger than that.

>> No.12222512

Now that's interesting, thanks for sharing! Looks more flying saucer than battleship though.

>> No.12222520


There were some crazy ship design during the XIX and beginning of the XX century because most of the innovations were theorical. There wasn't a single major naval engagement since the Napoleonic era with the exception of the battle of Lissa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lissa_%281866%29) which started the ramm craze on ironclads, which in the end proved to be useless.

>> No.12222523

If you want flying saucers, a functional one was built for WWII. It was called Vought V-173 and for all its awkwardness, it was a surprisingly effective plane design.

Still less weird than the Russian gliding tank.

>> No.12222541

How can you be in Kancolle threads and have not heard of the Battle of Tsushima?

>> No.12222548


Yeah, my bad. I forgot Tsushima. But even so, that battle didn't affect ship design on European ship deesign bereaus, mainly because they knew few data from it.

>> No.12222550

Thanks for all the reading material, but I'll call it a night here. Been up till 4 am chasing dailies. Thanks again!

>> No.12222552

have the computer play for you

>> No.12222566
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Are you fucking kidding me.

>> No.12222580


Wo wants another night of hot and sweaty battle with you.

>> No.12222590

Maybe you should've put the BB at the bottom for clutch lasto shooto.

>> No.12222593

Maybe if Kirishima was in the 3 spot instead she would have finished her off.

>> No.12222595

One of the rare times where you actually need to git gud

>> No.12222616

Yeah, I'm replacing Rkais with 12A next time.

>> No.12222901
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For anyone curious abut how real star shells looked like. These were taken during the battle of Iwojima the night of 19 Febraury 1945.


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>> No.12222908


Oh, I remember now, I saw them when I was watching The Pacific.

>> No.12223086

just crafted reppu and 21a here, taiho as flag and 20/60/10/100. If you believe in time-based RNG, then it your chance!

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Subs soon.

>> No.12223126
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2 good planes out of 26 crafts. Not the "supper efficiency timing", but at least I get something.

>> No.12223267

>Does Ayanami take Amatsukaze's slot in a 6 destroyer fleet?
Amatsukaze never belonged to begin with.

Wait for her drei.

All subs.


>> No.12223299
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You made me do it Anon. Though I couldn't get Chikuma because I lacked dev kits. But Ryuujou is also a good CaVaLry unit.

>> No.12223616

When are they going to release shiny pokemon?

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translate it, weebs

please, my throbbing cock awaits anxiously

>> No.12223778

You're welcome, bro

>> No.12223947
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China, pls.

>> No.12223949
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It's like they're not even trying.

>> No.12223953

Woah, better than konishit kongou
Who would have thought

>> No.12223960

That blond on the right, is she based on atago?

>> No.12223962
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>> No.12223963

The face looks like Tony art for me.
They just traced random images and slapped them together to create their "original content".

>> No.12223964

The thread where those pictures came from is hilarious too.(rough TL'd from the kanji clusterfuck that is Chinese)

>"Stop rubbing Japan's shoes, the fact is that Japan used a time machine and went back to copy our China's work, so stop saying that China plagiarizes and whats not when the fact that Japan ride on the time machine illegally, and that's the truth!"

mfw they believe Japan has a....time machine

>> No.12223969

In the future, Japan rules with world with an iron fist using their super special space technology power engines and physics defying metal built gundams. Something as simple as a time machine is easy shit for them, they're setting themselves up for a solid world power position before they actually have it.

>> No.12223970

...Do you not understand sarcasm?

>> No.12223971

Not him, but I level my ships to 97 too and then don't use them for anything much.

>> No.12223983


this >>12223970

>> No.12224008
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Here's page 3 and 4 of Chapter 33. Gonna finish pg 5 and 6, then move on to Ch45

Pg 1 and 2 here.

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Pg 5 and 6 hopefully by this weekend.
Also, that Konota-esque Akitsumaru face.

>> No.12224011


>> No.12224021

Font looks different.

And wasn't it already done before?

>> No.12224030

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>> No.12224038
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Is Midway included in Battlestations Pacific? Or do I have to buy Battlestations Midway to relive my waifu's final moments?

Also, is Midway as good as Pacific in terms of gameplay, graphics, etc?

>> No.12224039

When is Anime japan 2014?

>> No.12224046

already over.

>> No.12224051

Midway isn't included with Pacific. Midway also has a bigger US campaign than Pacific, but no Japanese campaign in return. Gameplay is largely the same, and the graphics are worse, of course. But if you wanna play multiplayer and take advantage of a more active modding community, Pacific is the way to go.

Speaking of Pacific, if someone has the Mac version of it, would they be so kind as to upload the .mpak files for English (Authentic VO)? The PC version is missing them, so we can't use that setting and are forced to listen to shitty voiceovers that are supposed to pass for a Japanese accent.

>> No.12224074

>Every single of them is on remodel level
I feel bad for those girls. You clearly don't give them any love and only doing this for the sake of your fucking dex
>couldn't get Chikuma because I lacked dev kits
What the fuck are you even talking about

>> No.12224075

If you're link me to the game I'll play it and report with screenshots.

>> No.12224080

If Nintendo bribes DMM you might see some kanmusu with vague Mario references.

>> No.12224081

It's obvious that he meant blueprint.

>> No.12224082


They are freshly remodeled and I plan to make then the forefront force. They will help me in Midway for any unusual fleet composition.

And my bad, I meant blueprints, not dev kits. It was at 4 AM when I posted that and I was tired from all the 3-2-A grinding.

>> No.12224083

I see. Guess I'll be getting Pacific and saving the rest for something else then. Thanks for the info!

>shitty voiceovers
Have you heard the English VOs? How do they sound?

>> No.12224103

It's been a long day, so I don't understand the exact wording of your question and chose to answer everything that has to do with it!

Everyone speaks plain English on the regular English setting, of course. Americans sound like... Americans. But I honestly don't know how someone could screw up so badly with Engrish as Eidos does. I mean fuck, Call of Duty even got it right!

With English (Authentic VO), the Japanese actually speak in Japanese, and it's great. IMO, the game dialogue should have been that way from the game's release, instead of coming with a later patch shortly before the developers died. It's because Eidos no longer exists that it's so hard fixing this problem.

That all being said, it's not really gamebreaking; I'm just a little autistic when it comes to audio.

>> No.12224157

>With English (Authentic VO), the Japanese actually speak in Japanese, and it's great.
Now i'm tempted to hunt for those authentic VO.

>> No.12224270

Sorry for taking your time, but thanks for explaining what you meant!

I did get an earful of the Engrish VOs in the demo's skirmish mode and I have to agree-it should've been Japanese from the start. Even without subs, it would've been better than hearing that god-awful accent.

And hey, it's /jp/, we're all autists.

>> No.12224291 [DELETED] 

What's the name of this game?

>> No.12224529

>no whale complaints in this thread
Does this mean everyone has her already?

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beautiful, isn't she.

>> No.12224549

I'm at 107 S rank wins in 2-5/5-2 with no Taigei, one Urakaze, five Yuugumos, and sixteen Hieis.

>> No.12224586

13 more hours and I'll be done with those quests and I can finally level her.

>> No.12224601

Just as many (if not more) Yuugumos, a couple pyons, 1 Ura, and 4 Yukikazes here, no whale.

And isn't Hamakaze suppose to drop from 2-5? I already have one, but despite the amount of time I've spent there I've never seen one drop.

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