what are some good /jp/ approved documentaries?

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Anonymous Sun Jun 22 14:21:54 2014 No.12215481 [Reply] [Original]

what are some good /jp/ approved documentaries?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 14:31:12 2014 No.12215488 >>12215481 This is an old favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 14:38:02 2014 No.12215499 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr5y1iP9TfU

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 14:38:21 2014 No.12215500 >>12215488 thanks, but ive already seen it!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 16:28:24 2014 No.12215654 >>12215499 hekeekoemoery

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 09:02:39 2014 No.12216911 Any good documentary about Nobunaga? That's guy's pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 09:45:54 2014 No.12216938 >>12215481 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 23:28:49 2014 No.12220950 >>12215481 The one about the sushi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 23:30:29 2014 No.12220954 >>12215481 No Sex Please, We're Japanese. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An29bdpaY70&feature=kp

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 23:32:50 2014 No.12220958

Pardon, I was trying to save the thread. I've remembered it now: Jiro Dreams of Sushi. It's a documentary about this Jiro guy who is supposedly the best maker of sushi. It's actually a surprisingly beautiful documentary about having a craft and about persuing goals, amongst other things. The trailer follows, and I thoroughly indicate this movie in case you haven't already seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1UDS2kgqY8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 23:44:04 2014 No.12220987 >>12220950 Dreams of sushi?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 23:57:02 2014 No.12221012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QU9T2dDZlg Because it's Japanese related.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 00:05:46 2014 No.12221024 File: 549 KB, 1908x1076, yuyuyu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12220954 >When I thought of Japan before I got here, this is the image I had in mind!

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 00:12:53 2014 No.12221031
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>>12215481
Arakimentari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuQI6mkD7mg

It's about the famous Japanese photographer Nobuyoshi Araki who is most popularly known for his erotic and fetishistic collages, but also his very intimate and personal ones too such as the one about his wedding, honeymoon, and funeral with his ex-wife.

He's worked with Bjork and other big names i believe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 00:23:22 2014 No.12221039 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhxohfB-cA8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:12:42 2014 No.12221086 >>12220954 I watched this through, and I must say it is disgustingly biased. Not only this, but the approach is extremely simple minded and condescending to some of the interviewed individuals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:21:41 2014 No.12221096 >>12221086 I recognize the title from earlier discussions of it here, and the mere fact that it's posted here makes me mistrustful of anything in this thread. Not going to click anything unless it has a short explanation like >>12220958 or >>12221031.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:37:51 2014 No.12221112 >>12221086 Seriously, what were you expecting? It's a BBC documentary, of course it's going to be cliché, biased, simple-minded and out of context with the actual reality. But it sells, kid. It sells.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:47:21 2014 No.12221117 >>12221096 I can guarantee you that Jiro Dreams of Sushi is a fantastic movie.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:50:11 2014 No.12221121

>>12215481
There was this (French?) one titled "Otaku" on Netflix. I'm not sure if it's still there.

It was pretty cool. It showcased various otaku niches from the 90s including figure making/collecting, model building, WW2/airsoft, porn hoarding, bondage, and 2D tru. I think it captures the essence of otaku pretty well and frames it within the sociocultural context of alienation in modern Japan.

Also, there's that one where Hideaki Anno goes back to his elementary school, shows kids around to his house and stuff and teaches them how to animate. It's depressing, but I really enjoyed it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:50:57 2014 No.12221123 >>12221117 Jiro is a piece of shit though. And those who actually have been to his restaurant would tell you that he's rude and would tries to get to hurry out in 30 minutes. Overpriced.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:54:03 2014 No.12221124 >>12221117 Jiro is a piece of shit though. And those who actually have been to his restaurant would tell you that he's rude and would try to get to hurry out in 30 minutes. Overpriced. Ignoring his bad customer service, he's a shitty father too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:55:12 2014 No.12221125 Otaku no Video

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 01:56:34 2014 No.12221126 >>12221124 So he's like some kind of sushi nazi?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:00:01 2014 No.12221130 >>12221125 Not a real documentary, man.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:02:09 2014 No.12221136

>>12221124
I wouldn't know, for I have never heard of anyone who has gone to his restaurant or talked to him. However, you must take into account that his restaurant is , after all, a small sushi place underground, much like tachisoba stands and other similar stalls. Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised if he operated his store in the same manner as other kinds of sushi shops. He must probably have an inflated price due to fame, but his business initself does not operate under the same conduct as, say, a western gourmet restaurant. Also, he is quite old, so some deviancy from good manners may be because of that. Given that, I would probably not go there, since I consider my tastes to be plebeian, and would not be able to enjoy the overpriced food, if it does indeed taste better than most.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:04:50 2014 No.12221143

>>12221126
Yeah. Basically, his sushi is good because his ingredients are good. He's not some magical sushi chef that the documentary makes him out to be. In fact, it was his son that was making the sushi when the restaurant got its Michelin stars. If he sees that you are a gaijin, he and his staff will try to kick you out.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:11:20 2014 No.12221147

>>12221143
>his sushi is good because his ingredients are good.
No, I'm pretty sure the decades of practice also have something to do with it as they would do with anything. The best ingredients in the hands of an inept cook is nothing more than a waste.

The real question here is how can people tell the difference? Just how much sushi have these people eaten that they could actually say that Jiro's is somehow godly? How much does the price alone factor into their appraisal (more expensive things tend to get rated higher on enjoyment scales after all)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:12:30 2014 No.12221149 >>12221147 >The best ingredients in the hands of an inept cook is nothing more than a waste. Nice strawman d00d

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:15:24 2014 No.12221157 >>12221149 Are you somehow under the incorrect assumption that practice at a craft is meaningless or are you just an idiot trying to start some shit? >strawman Shut your fuckhole.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:16:36 2014 No.12221158

>>12221149
But he is correct. I believe this goes for any kind of field. Surely I am working with common sense here, but it is well known to any, that if you, for example, hand a good instrument to a amateur musicians, he'll do less than a experienced musician with a bad instrument. This could further go to the matter of expensive oil paint in the hand of uncapable painters, good cars for mediocre drivers, and so on and so forth.

>>12221147
>Just how much sushi have these people eaten that they could actually say that Jiro's is somehow godly?
I believe there must be half a dozen people with palate good enough to taste quality, and the rest of the customers follow these few people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:20:51 2014 No.12221166 >>12221158 He is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:22:34 2014 No.12221170 >>12221166 I'll agree in disagree.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:23:20 2014 No.12221172

>>12221158
>I believe there must be half a dozen people with palate good enough to taste quality,
I never understood the concept of food critique other than for the sake of marketing and back-patting. Without some sort of blind or double-blind system with adequate comparison and control, an appraisal of anything is pretty meaningless. It's like "oh this food is so good!" Compared to what? Past experience? Just how good is the critic's memory?

At any rate, even if Jiro himself made my sushi, I doubt I could taste the difference with any higher end restaurant. It's a nice documentary, but looking at it realistically, it's a whole lotta hype.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:33:12 2014 No.12221180

>>12221172
Food critics are actually pretty objective. They don't just say whether something is good or not, they have developed their own vocabulary for describing the detailed nuances of flavor they encounter, which allows them to qualify any statements about the quality of the food they're tasting.

That doesn't necessarily make their reviews useful to a layman, though. An art critic might be able to make a good argument for why fine art is superior to the cute anime pictures you collect, but that doesn't mean that you'd be happier visiting art galleries instead of collecting cute pictures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:36:24 2014 No.12221184 >>12221147 This is sushi we're talking about. In most of the dishes, the meats aren't even cooked. Yes, I know sushi refers to the vinegared rice.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:44:56 2014 No.12221188

>>12221184
>In most of the dishes, the meats aren't even cooked.
Well, yeah, but you know, in terms of handling everything. If you've seen the documentary, everything is prepared by the chef in a decided order with no requests. Knowing what fish goes well after another, knowing how much soy sauce and wasabi to put on each piece, that kind of stuff takes a while to master. The whole theme of the film is "mastery." The apprentices take years just to learn how to make rice and tamagoyaki. It might seem stupid, but getting it consistently, if not obsessively, perfect isn't easy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:53:10 2014 No.12221189 >>12221157 Neither. What >>12221147 is saying is correct under normal circumstances, but in the context of the discussions that precedes it, it's a strawman. If you're too stupid to realize this then you're beyond help anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:54:10 2014 No.12221190 I'm a philistine who would probably get as much pleasure out of chicken nuggets as fifty dollar sushi, but I feel like that's me and not the food.

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:58:01 2014 No.12221194

>>12221188
Sorry, I just don't see the hoopla. He was good at his craft because he ignored his relationship with his family to do so. Ironic considering he was unwanted. He sons are better than him in every way. Perhaps, it's the Japanese way to kiss old people's ass no matter what. As the other anon said, could you even tell the difference if you went to another high-class sushi restaurant?

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 02:59:15 2014 No.12221195

>>12221189
Explain how it's a strawman.

While you're at it, explain how the arguments against Jiro have anything to do with his sushi-making ability, and how that doesn't affect the quality of his food.

It just seems like you're begging the question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:02:15 2014 No.12221197 >raw fish on rice Only Jiro could master something so difficult.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:02:31 2014 No.12221198 >>12221194 >Sorry, I just don't see the hoopla. He was good at his craft because he ignored his relationship with his family to do so. Dude, this guy's sushi is so good he fucked up his family to make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:05:36 2014 No.12221199 >>12221197 >greening on shitposts Only anon could master something so difficult

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:10:47 2014 No.12221204 >>12221199 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:17:34 2014 No.12221209 >>12221130 Otaku no Video is a Required /jp/ Watching <TM>

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:21:46 2014 No.12221212 Dreams of sushi was fucking depressing. What a waste of a life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:58:45 2014 No.12221244 Does anyone have the link to the one where the guy says the business has to be aimed at the obsessive fans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:02:43 2014 No.12221248 ITT Gays argue about fish and something they'll never experience

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:07:09 2014 No.12221256 >>12221212 /jp/ in charge of not wasting life

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:15:46 2014 No.12221265

>>12221121
>There was this (French?) one titled "Otaku" on Netflix. I'm not sure if it's still there.
I was just gonna suggest this. It was very interesting to see otaku-ism being discussed not only by foreigners, but also in 90's, where these nerds were barely heard of outside the island. Its not really a happy doc, though. It usually talks about how childish otaku are, how they shut themselves off and their escapism. I'd recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:17:52 2014 No.12221270 >>12221265 Jewtube link pls or dailymotion or whatever

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:20:38 2014 No.12221276 >>12221265 >It usually talks about how childish otaku are, how they shut themselves off and their escapism. So it's Anno Approved?

Anonymous Wed Jun 25 04:27:44 2014 No.12221283

>>12221244
I second this request.
>>12221270
Its old, French, simply called Otaku, last saw it on Netflix, and couldn't find it anywhere on the internet. But just for you anon, I tried to find it again and found it uploaded. You just be grateful, I did it just for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT223LrgupQ

>>	Wed Jun 25 04:43:37 2014 No.12221308 >>12221248 Being allergic to fish is suffering.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 05:30:44 2014 No.12221366 >>12221283 I am grateful oniichan I very much appreciate it arrigato

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 05:52:05 2014 No.12221376 >>12221276 >So it's Anno Approved? Just accurate, really. It's one of the few foreign uses of the term that totally gets it right. But yeah, it totally reminds me of Anno.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 05:57:38 2014 No.12221381 >>12221376 >It's one of the few foreign uses of the term that totally gets it right. Its why I liked it, it was before the rest of the world knew about that side of Japan, so its kinda felt like a pure untouched viewed at the subject, in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 06:33:57 2014 No.12221424 There's a short vice documentary regarding Tsubomi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 07:33:47 2014 No.12221513 >>12221424 there's a short vice documentary on everything dude, they're all pretty shallow and uninformative.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 09:45:58 2014 No.12221721 Tatakau heitai http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162688/ Japanese soldiers in China during the second Sino-Japanese War.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 09:49:12 2014 No.12221728 >>12221086 I've not watched it but I'm guessing that there's no mention of the concept of demographic transition. There almost never is with popular discussion of the aging population in Japan, it's always: virtual society, tentacles and hostess bars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 10:08:53 2014 No.12221759 >>12221248 More like ITT Faggotrons are upset that they can't be masters of their field with a few days of practice. Fucking lazy, jealous and cranky NEETs pieces of doody.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 18:31:32 2014 No.12222786 I don't know how everyone else feels about this documentary but The Great Happiness Space: Tale Of An Osaka Love Thief is pretty good! The main host is featured in some Vice documentaries too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1pA0McgvM

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 21:45:31 2014 No.12223251 dis https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqWiwiFT5s

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 26 07:50:12 2014 No.12224154 >>12215481 I don't know if it's /jp/ approved but it's an interesting watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2-FMgPHf0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 26 19:48:38 2014 No.12225303 >>12220954 This reporter pisses me off. She acts as if having children = being an adult And anyone who doesn't want children is childish.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 27 09:01:44 2014 No.12226731 >>12225303 People who think their opinions are the only good ones are irritating? Wow, I didn't know that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 28 06:59:05 2014 No.12228953 >>12221376 >It's one of the few foreign uses of the term that totally gets it right The others would be?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 17:29:39 2014 No.12231728 Yeah, it's VICE, but it's not really fluffed or exaggerated since it's just Horiyoshi III talking the whole time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOGWaVCrCsA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 20:32:41 2014 No.12232011 there was a documentary about host clubs called The Great Happiness Space

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