/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asia/japan-child-porn-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- Japan has finally made the possession of child pornography a punishable offense.

The country's upper house of parliament passed a bill Wednesday, which will see people found with explicit images of children jailed for up to year or fined up to $10,000.
Uganda considers banning miniskirts
Singapore bans film over content
Library bans '50 Shades of Grey' as porn

The bill was a long time coming for activists who argued that Japan's relatively lax laws put children at risk by banning the production and distribution of child pornography, but not people found with it in their possession.

"It's been 10 years and it's finally changed. I'm so pleased that Japan finally moved one step toward the international standard," said Shihoko Fujiwara, from Lighthouse, a nonprofit group that helps exploited children.

"Under the existing circumstances, the suffering and damage has become more critical. I really hope that the law rescues suffering child victims, as well as the victims damaged in the past by stopping the circulation of child porn. This is the epoch-making event for Japan," she said.

The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga

[Anonymous No.]

There's already a thread, move there
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[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

3D out of life.

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>>12205419
there are also threads on /pol/, /r9k/, /a/, and /b/

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Uganda considers banning miniskirts? That's fucking stupid. Just tell the guys to not rape ladies wearing those. Wearing certain clothes isn't going to magically stop sexual assault. Besides, It's far too hot going around some shitty place in Africa with skirts that go down to your legs. I don't care what you guys say about purity, would you go around Africa in the summer in a big winter jacket? No.

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>>12205425
Mother of God.

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>>12205425
I've personally never been to /pol/ before, and haven't been the other ones you listed in years.

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>>12205429
Niggers have different molecular compostions that help them withstand heat quite well. I've seen niggers walk around in my town wearing windbreakers in the middle of fucking August.

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Finally

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>>12205429
Someone accidentally copied related headlines it looks like

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Fucking CNN is focusing on hentai more than the fact that CP was banned
Fuck those cunts

[Anonymous No.]

Wait a second. What is b& now? CP or loli?

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>>12205436
Wow that's pretty dumb. Now that you mention it, I was on vacation in Vegas a few years ago in the summer and I saw some black guys wearing big, black hoodies. In the summer! How can they not die from being in those things.

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>>12205452
loli is cp

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>>12205452
Actual child pornography. A clause calling for a study on banning cartoon depictions was struck from the bill by lawmakers.

[Anonymous No.]

Sigh… I can already see that this thread will reach 500+ posts within a few hours.

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Won't this mean the quality of 2D, like rustle stuff, will go down considerably after he loses his reference materials?

[Anonymous No.]

So uh...what's the source of the image in the video

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>>12205452
Actual CP. From the article:

"The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga, a point of contention for campaigners who say that cartoons depicting child sexual abuse should also be banned."

"Daisuke Okeda, a lawyer and inspector for the Japan Animation Creators Association, said it was "natural that animation is exempted."

"The goal of the law itself is to protect children from crime," he said. "Banning such expression in animation under this law would not satisfy the goal of the law.""
"We need to allow the gray zone to exist as a necessary evil."

I get what he means by needing the gray area. If you were to ban everything, then there's a good chance people might go out and start raping actual little girls to get their fix.

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>>12205481
Well, I don't know. Raping little girls is hardly as sexy as reading about it. For one, they cry and snot all over you. That's rather disgusting.

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>>12205466

yes of course

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>>12205505
Yeah, I know. But you shouldn't assume that just because we personally wouldn't do it that other men with similar tastes to ours wouldn't. Just in case, you know?

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>>12205505
That's why you get them to know you and feel comfortable around you for a few months.
THEN you start playing doctor with them

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junior idol still ok?

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>>12205580
I would think so, they are always clothed.

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>>12205466
Rustle is going blind anyway, no more tracing for him to do.

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>>12205580
Bah, junior idols are neither sexy nor cute. That is, they do not have the bodily features that make grown-up idols attractive, and they do not have the necessary experience to create behavior that would make them cute.

What a waste of time.

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>>12205580
Of course yes. Junior Idols and actual CP are going to be alright under the new laws in Japan, because both Yakuza-run industries.

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>>12205412
Anybody got sauce on the frame in OP's image?

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hentai sales should be extremely high since the announcement

[ヘンリエッタ !b.iTP1Qti. No.]

Can't wait for the subsequent rise in rape of actual kids to continue. And the retard politicians to wonder "Eehh nani why is this happening"

[Anonymous No.]

Let's cut to the chase.

Which anime would you fuck?

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>>12205686

[Anonymous No.]

OP's video is nothing short of a witchhunt. Now, if only they would actually go after the slaver rings and actual pedos instead of cartoons...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/18/world/asia/japan-manga-anime-pornography/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

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>>12205592
Wait, what? Where dod you hear this?

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>>12205617
>Can't wait for the subsequent rise in rape of actual kids
/jp/.txt

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>The bill notably excludes the possession of explicit anime or manga
So it's non-news.

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>>12205719
I don't think I have seen any loli ero anime recently.

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>>12205710
Its been going around forever.

I seem to remember there was something about it on his site ages ago.
Or maybe I'm just misremembering something.

It' been so long I presume he'd be blind by now if it was going to happen.

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>>12205724
I saw the opening song for some child porn anime on youtube and at one point the girl pulled off her panties then lifted her skirt to flash her vagina at a teacher

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>>12205474
>>12205609
See here:
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>>12205728
I don't think he has done anything new recently.

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>>12205729

>>>/cnn/

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This is some sort of celebration thread, right?

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>>12205617

You tryin' to get swat teamed?

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>>12205752
More like the laughter borne out of despair. These maggots keep dancing around the real problem, the actual criminals who seek to profit. They may change and add as many laws as they want, but so long as the slavery and prostitution rings remain in place nothing will ever change.

Then they have the gall to claim that it is anime/manga which produces all these child abuse crimes. It's so fucking pathetic.

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Drawn child porn is never going to be banned in japan.
Not with the amounts of that stuff on the market anyway.
It kinda makes me feel warm and fuzzy when I think about how feminazis and moralfags are going to rage about it forever.

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>>12205752

Get out.

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>>12205724
Producing a loli nukige is significantly cheaper. And even if you produced an anime nobody would air it. It's economics, not law.

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>>12205789
>Drawn child porn is never going to be banned in japan.

just like "assault weapons" will never be banned in America

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I have a feeling that the only thing mainstream media did was promote drawn lolicon and asian U12/15 idols (a legal enterprise btw) to certain segments of the population who are currently stuck ogling at fugly and uncute Eastern European equivalents.

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>>12205809

America is becoming a shithole, though.

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>>12205809
Even if they get banned, that has never topped the US army from selling them to the local and mexican drug lords. Laws only are enforced on decent citizens.

Banning guns would only help the prices rise, whihc means more profit.

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I can't believe I wasted all day so far talking about this shit.

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>>12205809

America is still the richest country in the world.

America is the only country in the world where you can still own McMansions and buy non-essential, luxury goods at rock bottom prices.

America is one of few countries that guarantees constitutional right to own guns and as much as you like.

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>>12205835

. . .For now.

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>>12205835
Is it, now?

Granted, most of the people on the picture are niggers.

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>>12205834
I can't believe there are people who waste all day talking about this shit.

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>>12205849

I couldn't resit. I will ignore it from now on.

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>>12205855
がんばって

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We should tell big manga/LN/anime publishers in Japan that they should take a page or the whole book from National Rifle Association on how to deal with outside forces who are trying to destroy its freedom, commerce & culture!

Yes, I'm calling arms for The 2D Industry Complex (I just made that term up) should fight back, NRA style!

I'm sure everyone here knows who/what NRA and its arm NRA-ILA is, and why it's one of few NGOs that racked up a lot of victories besides the American Gaming Association (AGA).

heck, NRA even fought the UN and won!
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/30/nra-stops-u-n-arms-trade-treaty/

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>>12205846
>>12205845

No other countries can fulfill these

>America is the only country in the world where you can still own McMansions and buy non-essential, luxury goods at rock bottom prices.

>America is one of few countries that guarantees constitutional right to own guns and as much as you like.

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>>12205861

The UN is a third would special interest group, fuck them. If Japan wants foreigners out of their hair. They need to re-militarize, maybe they can use the threat of china as an excuse to amend their constitution and rearm. Power is the only solution to this.

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>>12205874

>Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

>Obama: "You didn't build it!"

Derp.

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>>12205686

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>>12205861
Bullets are a metaphor. We live in the information age and ideas can change someone just as well as a bullet can. No one needs to die.

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>>12205686
>sexualizing little girls
You are a paedophile, you are a nonce, you're a perv, you're a slot badger, you're a two pin din plug, you're a bush dodger, you're a small bean regarder, you're an unabummer, you're a nut administrator, you're a bent ref, you're the crazy world of Arthur Brown, you're a fence foal, you're a free willy, you're a chimney bottler, you're a bunty man, you're a shrub rocketeer

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>>12205895
NRA pushes back with intellect.

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>>12205898
biribiri has a bush, dude

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>>12205412
>meanwhile in usa
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/11/justice/oregon-high-school-shooting/

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>>12205429
>This is what 3dsluts actually believe.

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>>12205898
wot the fok did ye just say 2 me m8? i dropped out of newcastle primary skool im the sickest bloke ull ever meet & ive nicked 300 candy bars from tha corner store. im trained in street fitin’ & im the strongest foker in tha entire newcastle gym. yer nothin to me but a cheeky lil dickhead w/ a hot mum & fake bling. ill waste u and smash a fokin bottle oer yer head bruv, i swer on me mum. ya think u can fokin run ya gabber at me whilst sittin on yer arse behind a lil screen? think again wanka. im callin me homeboys rite now preparin for a proper rumble. tha rumble thatll make ur nan sore jus hearin about it. yer a waste bruv. my homeboys be all over tha place & ill beat ya to a proper fokin pulp with me fists wanka. if i aint satisfied w/ that ill borrow me m8s cricket paddle & see if that gets u the fok out o’ newcastle ya daft kunt. if ye had seen this bloody fokin mess commin ye might a’ kept ya gabber from runnin. but it seems yer a stewpid lil twat, innit? ima shite fury & ull drown in it m8. ur in proper mess ya knobhead.

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>>12205917
no boganposting onegai

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>>12205913
Please don't sexualize the biribiri.

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>The country's upper house of parliament passed a bill Wednesday, which will see people found with explicit images of children jailed for up to year or fined up to $10,000.
>jailed for up to year
>fined up to $10,000.

National government just turned this whole thing as a way for the national government to get more money! Japan's government balance sheet is not a cause for concern for the international markets, but it really is in deep red ink.

Basically, those who got caught will only pay $10,000 and spend a year in detention. If one re-offends it's another $10,000 and a year long detention. This looks like a good business case!

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>>12205898
>>12205914
>>12205915

[Anonymous No.]

I want to fuck a Chinese cartoon, any tips?

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>>12205846
Hope you'll enjoy this version more.

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>>12205724
PeroPero teacher just came out recently, I would call that loli

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>>12205481
>"The goal of the law itself is to protect children from crime," he said. "Banning such expression in animation under this law would not satisfy the goal of the law.""
>"We need to allow the gray zone to exist as a necessary evil."
someone who has an actual brain? holy shit. if only america and europe thought like that instead of banning everything out of fear of peer pressure.

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>>12205925
>boganposting
He was clearly going for the British style you fucknugget. How on hell does that even sound remotely Australian? Australians don't say shit like "gabber" and "foker". How the hell is this "bogan"?

[None !GoJQFapDyU No.]

Everything we live and stand for is crumbling right before are very eyes, friends and If we don't act when the time comes then the lolis we know and love will be ripped from are very hands. I say if they ban are lolis then we shall remove ourselves from our NEET basement and go outside and we shall riot!

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>>12205972
How does banning possession protect children? He'll be after your lolicon next.

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>>12205895
but christfags, rednecks and soccer moms have impenetrable defense against those.

[None !GoJQFapDyU No.]

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>>12205985
Just what is wrong with christianity in the USA? Christians over here are such chill people.

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>>12205980
i meant the part about
>"Banning such expression in animation under this law would not satisfy the goal of the law."
which is true.

banning loli will not decrease the amount of real kids getting raped, it may in fact increase it.

banning possession should at least fuck up the cp ring's profits.

illegal to buy = normal people are afraid to buy because it's illegal, and seeing as they get arrested for torrenting and this is worse, yeah = no sales = no profit = no reason to produce as much and waste money on it

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>>12205985
i dunno man.
lately the liberals have been slipping up and getting arrested.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>12205957
penis reduction surgery

[ヘンリエッタ !b.iTP1Qti. No.]

>>12206006
Banning possession will make material even more valuable. It will still circulate just even more underground than before.
It's how drugs work, and how alcohol worked years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

What is classified as 'pornography'?
I know in my state as long as there is no sexual acts it falls under art.

[Anonymous No.]

I doubt this will effect many people.
I'm guessing the vast majority of people that do have it are behind 7 proxies and only operate within closed circles they're familiar with.

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>>12205913
No she doesn't.

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>>12206083
let me guess... california?
liberal yuppies dont know shit about art

[Anonymous No.]

Can we finally ban all Brits from this site yet?

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>>12206108,1
Pennsylvania.
This guy got busted a few years ago and got off because it was just solo pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

Why /jp/ is so mad.Hentai will exist just without loli

[Anonymous No.]

>USA tries to ban guns
>Japan tries to ban 2D lil girls
Is there no justice in the world?

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>>12206025
I bet you're sweating bullets right now, pedo-san.

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meh.. it wont stop me from importing it.

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Enko videos are still okay, right? You know the videos of schoolgirls whoring themselves out to middle aged men for money.

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>>12206002
Not all of them. I don't know where you live, but it seems to be that southern protestants are more prone to be the hyper conservative type who won't listen to anything but the 'correct' opinion.

[ヘンリエッタ !b.iTP1Qti. No.]

>>12206155
Sweating from all that fappin'

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This doesn't affect loli, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Age of milfs is here

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>>12206218
No, they stated animation was exempt because it doesn't actually harm anyone.

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>>12205412
serve you right

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>>12206231
For now.

Five years from now, who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how this will affect japanese who already are legally possessing CP. Do they get grandfathered in, or is there some deadline by which they would have to get rid of it?

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>Japan has finally made the possession of child pornography a punishable offense.

This is terrible news. This was one of the reasons why I thought Japan was so great and now it's gone. I feel like crying.

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>>12206235
The law will go in effect at a later date, so they have until then. Pretty normal law procedure

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>>12206191
Those have always been illegal.

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Please tell me that I can still watch loli on Exh.

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>>12206142
We'll get back our lolis just like USA is trying to keep their right to own guns. With 3D printers.

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>>12206264

You can still watch loli on Exh.

Who's going to upload it, though? Who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

First they came for the 3D.

And I did not speak up because 3DPD.

Then they came for the 2D.

And there was no one left to speak up for me.

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>>12206273
I do not like lolicon.

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>>12206215
>>12206215

i bet some specialty shops that sell mags like that (and only opens at night) would love to get rid excess supply of showa-era teen mags like that.

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Hopefully this is just the first step towards banning 3D women in general so that we can all move on to 2D. Future is starting to look pretty bright.

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>>12206442
I guess your right. 2D is the future.

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It excludes fantastical creative works.

[Anonymous No.]

This is why Japan should avoid making any virtual reality anime porn games. As soon as they AS SOON AS they do some cnn coon will rear his ugly head and blame VR as a whole for harming children.

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>>12206238

Good. Now you can stop being a sick piece of shit.

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>>12205514
>Yeah, I know.
>I know.

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>>12207453
This isn't going to stop anything you nerd

[Anonymous No.]

Always love these "shotgun laws".

Too hard to catch people in the act creating cp? Now you can potentially catch them if they have the files lying around when you find them!

Innocent people who just happen to have cp will get charged on account of being creepy and disgusting. After all, in modern times it should be illegal to like things majority don't.

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>>12205481
There was this one European country (Ukraine or Slovenia or something) that banned CP, and experienced an increase in cases of sexual abuse of children, despite no overall increase in crime.

Of course, it's totally taboo to even suggest that there might be benefits to having CP around. But if you think about it this way: There is a possibility that banning CP directly led to more children getting raped. Can you really be a moral person if you ignore that there's even a slight possibility that your actions led to very real suffering of other people?

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>>12207532
If it's not going to do shit people are sure making a big deal about it.

>>12207949
/a/ said something about a report about the Czech Republic but I don't know it's actually true or just something morons have been repeating for shits and giggles.

[Anonymous No.]

>only civilized country where cp is legal
>only civilized country where child rape never happens
>solution: illegalize cp

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>>12207992
Birth rate is dropping, what do you expect?

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>>12207941
the argument is that if possession gets you 3 life sentences and a sex offender registration, fewer people will want to risk possessing it, so production will be less profitable, so fewer people will produce it, so fewer people will rape 6-year-olds to produce it.

it's not that cp is illegal because the majority doesn't like it, it's illegal because the majority don't like child rape

this is bullshit, however, for a number of reasons:

a) age of consent most places is 16, age of porn pretty much everywhere is 18. in other words, it's legal to actually fuck a 16-year-old, but not to see a photo of a 17-year-old fully clothed but in a slightly suggestive pose (though you probably wouldn't get in trouble for that unless you had actual cp, too).

b) laws do not deter pedophiles. as punishment for cp gets more and more severe, the amount of cp produced is going up. not to say that more punishment necessarily equals more cp, but more punishment sure as hell doesn't equal less cp

c) there is zero evidence that cp causes people to rape children. of course, a fair number of child rapists also have cp, but various government agencies and non-government organizations say that about 20% of porn is cp, meanwhile sexual abuse of children is rare and declining

tl;dr, stop fucking around with prosecuting pedos who are sitting in their basements harmlessly, and start prosecuting more child rapists. if you have to let 1,000 harmless basement pedos slide to catch one cp producer who is actually causing direct, physical, and ongoing harm, isn't that worth it?

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>>12207949
It was Denmark or something. Think Scandinavia, not Eastern Europe.

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>>12205412
this doesn't ban fucking drawn shit like it shouldn't, why the fuck is cnn using a drawn image, are they fucking retarded?

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>>12206002
You're joking right?

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>>12208042
Slovenia is in Central Europe, though to your point I don't remember reading something like that happening here.

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>>12208053
Politics.

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>>12208030
America is going to save those poor russian girls who can barely afford food.

Or you know, ban the internet instead.

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>>12208030
America is going to save those poor Russian girls who can barely afford food.

Or you know, ban the internet instead.

[Anonymous No.]

So you're telling me possession had been legal this whole time?

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>>12208113
because of america, those poor girls are starving to death because they killed their best income.

america is literally murdering children.

[Anonymous No.]

Japan is never going to ban loli anime/doujins/VNs etc.
This shit is being created by them since the time immemorial and they make a lot of money from it.
It's almost as if you would ban alcohol in Russia and Poland.

I've seen the video when CNN guys interviewed some japanese mangakas and government officials about it and I'm sure that deep inside they just laughed at how stupid these gaijins are.

Deal with it.

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>>12208220
You really believe the majority of Japan's population partonizes loli, don't you?

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>>12208257
Most of the Japanese doesn't watch gay porn, but they're not going to ban it.

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>>12208042
It wasn't Denmark, pretty sure it wasn't any other scandinavian country either

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>>12204492
>Agreed. Japan has also introduced law to make possession of PeeCee in 1 year a criminal offence. The need to have US Marines protect Japan from Chinese bullying is cultural genocide for Japan. Lot at this wonderful (legal) torrent and weep for Japanese culture.

Aren't those nude magazines? How is that legal?

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>>12205817
Legal where? Japan? The US? Why doesn't 4chan allow this stuff? Every time I see CD girls posted on /b/ the mods quickly remove them even though it's not sexually explicit or nude.

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>>12208855

Because you will still get some retard yelling

MODS
O
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S

Let it stay that way.

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>>12208860
That doesn't bother me. Things shouldn't be censored for the sake of pleasing others. Especially on a site like 4chan.

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>>12208644

Are there any mags where girls aren't wearing school uniforms or swimsuits or completely nude? Would it kill them to have them wear a variety of clothes, Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

Friendly reminder that nudity is not pornography. You can go down to the local library or book store and find photo books with photos of naked children in them.

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>>12208868,2

Underage idol stuff is undisputably pornographic - its express purpose is to get its viewers off. But there's nothing wrong with that. The reason norms talk about kiddieporn being wrong is because children can be exploited through it, but child gravure is a professional industry and nobody is being exploited into doing it.

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>>12208868,3
>Underage idol stuff is undisputably pornographic

Sure, if you're some kind of sick pervert who only sees the female body as a sex object. Ultimate gentlemen such as myself see it as the physical form of pure beauty. Nothing at all is pornographic about flat or budding chests and hips and butts. You deserve to rot in hell if you think otherwise.

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>>12208868,4
underage idol
not "loli"

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>>12208868,5
What's the difference between a loli and a little girl?

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>>12208868,3
>The reason norms talk about kiddieporn being wrong is because children can be exploited through it, but child gravure is a professional industry and nobody is being exploited into doing it.

Whattafuck man...

They're exploited just like children that do commercials are exploited. It's awwwwright, though.

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>>12208868,7
And both junior idols and children in ads are used for masturbation purposes.

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>>12208257
You do underestand that if they include fantasy in the law they are not going to just ban your interpretation of lolicon, every eromanga and vn that has a character represented as underage will be banned, so forget anything with a high school setting or highschool girl in it, so we are talking about the majority of content that exists today.

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>>12208855
Mods don't want to take any chances with 3D. Even if it's legal.
Which is funny, because they allow loli threads, which are, to my understanding, illegal in the US (sexual children depictions in any form are, I think).

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>>12209565
Getting rid of the high school setting would be an improvement, honestly.

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>>12209583
Nah, the Supreme Court already ruled that sexual depictions of children that don't involve actual children is protected free speech. So it's only illegal if it's obscene.

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>>12209583
You're understanding is wrong.

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>>12209583
Your understanding is as foggy as the actual law on loli in the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209658
>>12209608
Most websites say it's illegal. I want to believe but I'm not sure. I don't really care either way, it's a gray area and the chances of me being caught are negligible.

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>>12209583
There are people that are literally making a living by selling loli commissions on hentai foundry and tumblr from the us and generally from lots of places with gray areas, if you don't do anything to raise attention usually the law doesn't really care.

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>>12209681
I'm under the impression that the law starts caring real fast as soon as any decent amount of money is involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12205412
>Japan finally moved one step toward the international standard
Just a matter of time until those fucking international fuckwits get to my porn.
FUCKING FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209671
>most websites
Most of the websites YOU visit, maybe.
>>12209704
Isn't that the way it is with most on-line art stuff? Can't have people getting rich off things that aren't banking!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209704
Well I don't know, take a look at all the artists that have been doing loli commissions in the west, we get some on /ic/ too, but sure you must be read to take the risk, as the peron that said people will be too scared to put a pen down with such laws is true, i am an aspiring artist as well and I don't think that I will ever try to make monay with anithing that doesn't have cowtits

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209671
>in any form
I can walk into any decent secular library and find a book depicting a person under eighteen in sexual situations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209728
Tit-guro is the future. No one says they have to be attached to anyone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12205505
Why would they need to rape anything? Japan's the place that had a problem with schoolgirls willingly selling themselves for sex to buy purses in shit. Rather than rape, they'd see an increase in enjo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12208644
>>12208855
>>12209583
Strictly speaking nudity doesn't = porn and neither do junior idols in general, although a focus on the genitals does even if they're clothed.

The problem is the fanbase which
-cannot post anything even slightly related without talking about how much they want to rape children
-cannot stop trying to associate with loli as if it's the same (and furthermore try to push the idea that 12-14 anime characters aren't within the loli range, only their little pedo age range of <9 prepubescent looking characters)
-cannot resist spamming actual porn
This is the primary reason /l/ is gone and /l/ content mostly not allowed. This is why the cover of the album "virgin breaker" is or was an autopermaban(because people wouldn't stop spamming it every chance they got because it has a picture of a naked 14ish year old on it but was deemed legal in USA.) Pedos ruin everything for everyone and edgy kids like to posts it because "lol partyvan 7 proxies", so there's a 0 tolerance policy on 3D, even non idol related content. There was also some underaged camwhore on /b/ years ago that got doxed and may have contributed somehow, but who knows what happens on /soc/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209872
>14 anime characters aren't within the loli range

They aren't, really. That's just normal hentai.

[Anonymous No.]

you paedos sicken me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209880
Your disgust arouses me.

[Anonymous No.]

>who argued that Japan's relatively lax laws put children at risk by banning the production and distribution of child pornography, but not people found with it in their possession.
How does possession put children at risk? I can understand making it and possibly distributing it (if you also made it) involves kids, but how does simply having it hurt anyone? It's like arresting nonviolent drug offenders. It does nothing to solve the problem.

Well, I'm glad this gave all the moralfags an opportunity to pat themselves on the back for doing essentially nothing. We couldn't have done it without them. Definitely closer to the international standard, I would say!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209879
Lolicon is an obsession with youth, not with prepubescence. A 14 year old middle schooler is still lolicon, provided she isn't drawn like a titcow 25 year old with 14 as an excuse.(opposite of those really 700 year old types) Even then, some titcows are still loli (Usa from KnJ, that eyebrow girl from Mitsudomoe)

You wouldn't call this girl not a loli, nor Sanae from Chuunibyo and they're 14, but those types will insist they're too old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209925
Loli is more about body type and character traits than it is age. If she has "underage appeal," she's loli.

Lucky Star characters are in high school, but most of them are clearly loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209872
so, they're about as obnoxious as furries or ponyfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12208030
Too many idiots joined up to be saviors of the universe.

Originally it was only child abuse/rape that was the issue. Because we all were aware of no problems seeing children naked in tv shows, at beaches or our very own family members.

It really should ring some warning bells when you have cases of selfies making a child both the victim and the culprit and laws consider the victim part ignorable and only let them speak as culprits.

Another good loop hole is taking illegal pictures of yourself as a child, and distributing when you are an adult. Because you do not consider there to be a problem, there is no victim. But because they are illegal pictures even without a victim, you'll go to jail.

Just so amazing when you have a state assuming the role of a protector by jailing the ones to protect. In some sense it is just like Terminator. Build them to protect you, and have them exterminate you due to poor foresight.

[Anonymous No.]

I also just remembered that South Korea had one of those anti-loli laws about half a year ago. How are those artists doing?

Think it was something insane like 1000 dollar reward for rattling an artist out. And the law was against sexualizing children, which would include swimsuits and what not. Really incredible stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209966
As expected of filthy gooks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209935
>Loli is more about body type
No, that's just you being a pedophile and trying to force your beliefs.

>If she has "underage appeal," she's loli.
This is what I said. It's about seeming young, not looking prepubescent. 14 year olds that are ｎｏｔ loli are exceptions that are forcing that other anime stereotype of huge boobs on everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209938
Ponyfags, yes. Other than trying to call every non-human character a furry(similar to monstergirl fans), furries themselves haven't really ever been that annoying, so much as people keep spamming furry art to irritate other people and incite conflict. It's nearly completely avoidable otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209983
> furries themselves haven't really ever been that annoying
You haven't been here for very long.
They may be pretty reasonable now but it wasn't always that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209971
>No, that's just you being a pedophile and trying to force your beliefs.

I bet you work for the Australian government, don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209971
if loli is not explicitly prepubescent then it could be anything, in which case you are casting most human sexual desire under the bus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209971
So if a pedo can properly climax to one of the many videos were a guy 'baby sitting' Gauge fucks the ever living shit out of her, do you think that's just a matter of just believing her performance and entering into a delusion?

I honestly have trouble seeing the difference between 'seeming young' and 'looking prepubescent'. In that way is Gauge suddenly loli when she talks like an 8 year old?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210229
This is what happens when you switch from "protecting others from harm" to "making sure people aren't thinking evil things". You end up having to try and nail Jell-O to the wall on a steady basis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210245
The wikileaks article linked was pretty interesting on that point. I know I read some article about a guy in the US who was arrested for having a regular porn tape that just had a shorter small breasted actress. I can't ever seem to find it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209925

That term has certain implications. I don't think having an OVA centred on a certain age group make it 'loli'. Series like Strawberry Panic and Yuru Yuri have massive fanbases and they are so far removed from the kind of images out there that are truly 2D cp. If you can call them Loli because the main characters are young, surely you can call anything from My Neighbor Totoro to 'Hatsune Miku' Lolicon.

Lolicon isn't an age thing, it's a pornographic thing. And it's not generally geared towards fourteen year olds, you're talking much younger. Go ask for lolicon on /b/ and see what you get. Basically, it's a term used by those biased in their attraction to a certain age group.

Semantics aside, restricting freedom of thought, drawing and writing and so on is risky business. When you're actions actually have consequences in the human world however, that's another matter. But the snooty, self serving defense mechanisms of people here who actually seem to be in support of decriminalizing possession of actual CP are pretty much impossible to get through. Still, law changes should fall under some scrutiny.

I'm sure Australia made a criminal offence of drawing images. So, you can have sex with your sixteen year old partner and it remains above the law, but if you draw it, you become a sex offender. And we're supposed to believe these laws make the world a safer place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210398
>kind of images out there that are truly 2D cp.

It's pretty easy to be removed from something that can't exist because it's an oxymoron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210441
People who use that seem to delight in forcing the irrationality of it forward. I think they like to look crazy because they mistake the heedless persistence of insanity for real strength or moral certainty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210441
The inherent fallacy in the whole "2D/drawn CP" meme is equivocation. It takes a term that means one thing and uses it for a different purpose. So, there's even a fancy word for what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209971
>and trying to force your beliefs.
And what are you doing then, idiot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209985
>You haven't been here for very long.
Been here since 2004. It's only ever been faggots spamming furry because of some perceived drama that they caused among themselves. lel copyright jax, lul orca stacks, whatever. It's like 99% people just spamming /b/ with it for shits and giggles because "it's gross" back then. Honestly if SA didn't hype it up so much it would have been as irrelevant as fart fetish.

>>12210229
I have no idea what you're talking about or who gauge is.

"Seeming young" means they're(lolicon) attracted to signs that make a girl seem like a schoolgirl or around that age. Being short and flat are 2 things, but aren't everything. Pedo by definition wouldn't be attracted to a loli with boobs, even if she were 9, whereas lolis with boobs are still lolis. Take this image for example: She's in puberty, but her hairstyle, hair accessory, stuffed things, and face portray her as loli. That is, she seems to be a young girl, though not pedo material.

If whoever you named convincingly looks 8 and not just some 35 year old wrinklecow with pigtails, then yes the guy getting off to her acting is a pedo, and yes she becomes a loli regardless of the pedo's feelings. It's the same kind of pretend as dressing someone up in a schoolgirl outfit so you can pretend you're sexing a schoolgirl. Hell a lot of the loli-moe thing comes from girls who are older(than 10) acting younger than they are(i.e. seeming young). Iori from IM@S for example, being 15, but you'd most likely lump her in with lolis.

>>12210000
Judging a girl to be loli or not solely on whether she looks prepubescent to you is more Australian like than what I said, considering you're referencing that thing about flat chested women being illegal.

>>12210398
I am 1000% convinced that Miyazaki is a lolicon. And /b/ would post toddlercon because it's /b/. I trust LO over /b/ and you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210526
>Pedo by definition wouldn't be attracted to a loli with boobs

But a lot of them are, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210539
What is the definition of pedophile? There are probably those who claim to be pedo but like boobs in the same way there are those who claim to be straight but like traps or claim to be gay but managed to fuck women enough times to have a family with children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210628
>What is the definition of pedophile?

Whatever makes the most amount of money for those that set the definition, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210650
I don't think pedophilia is about the money. It's about power and control, mostly of the government about its citizens. Everyone is always bloating about the amount of money involved in child porn rings, but do they ever bring any real proof of their accusations? In fact, I've read studies showing that CP really is only a tiny niche market.

Yet, people hype it up like hell with only one goal: To have a single powerful silencer to press any law, and to get rid of any person. Want to get a law passed? IT HELPS AGAINST THOSE PEDO SHITS! Want to silence someone? Accuse him of owning child porn. Works every single time. And unlike the good old ``terrorism'' joker, no one even dares to voice any criticism in fear of being targeted next. That's how powerful pedophilia is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210671
>Want to silence someone? Accuse him of owning child porn. Works every single time.
It only works if he actually has it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210679
It still does a lot of damage to someones reputation, true or not.

Same deal with people falsely accused of rape and such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210679
Being suspected is enough. Even if nothing is ever found on you, your reputation will have already dipped, and your position severely weakened. It's a bit like accusing someone of rape.

Okay, now that I think about it, it doesn't work on women, because obviously women cannot be pedophiles. But then again, women never are in positions of power anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210526
I think we are more or less agreeing here.

Gauge is short and does act young in a lot of films. I mean it's a film where she acts 8, dresses like she's 8, and is being baby sat by the guy who will invariably fuck her. It's obviously a fetish and appeals to people, even if she doesn't look convincingly 8 years old.

It just feels like you're describing age play with no real focus. We're just splicing general young girl fetishizing into the actual disease of pedophilia. A lot of this material I think is just a "good enough" for pedophiles, but it's also erotic to non-pedophiles.

I think the statement that a 'real pedo' would never settle for age play or a prepubescent girl with inexplicable monster tits is just too strong.

Sorry if I misunderstood you or continued to not make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210679
Someone has a lot of confidence in the justice system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210684
>>12210687
It's a huge fucking bombshell. If you can't make the accusation you stick you look like (and you are) a scumbag. And it's a accusation that can only be "reasonably" leveled by one of your relatives, as anybody who discovered it in an "official" capacity would have had an obligation to report it to the police immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210688
The people who define what the disease is will splice whatever they want into it, as long as it makes them money or benefits them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210688
How is that a upskirt if there's no skirt!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210688
That thing is hideous.

What the fuck were you trying to convey when you even brought her up? Did you honestly expect anyone here to even realize who/what you were talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210716
He probably expected that people would use Google to find out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210722
You expected me to google up some 3D porn of an older chick pretending to be a young girl?

Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210716
Everyone who has been on the internet for any length of time knows who she is anyway. And probably fapped to her, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210727
If I don't care about someone's post enough to look up what he's talking about I don't respond to the poster.

I have no expectations of you in particular, since I don't know who you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210727
Okay, I was wrong, he actually expected you to know who she was. I shouldn't have given him the benefit of the doubt.

>>12210728
>Everyone who has been on the internet for any length of time knows who she is anyway.
Sorry, but not everybody has the same interests at you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210730
>If I don't care about someone's post enough to look up what he's talking about I don't respond to the poster.

That's a pretty good rule of thumb, but I don't pretend to ignore posters who are shitting all over a thread with their idiocy.

Someone must address it, or they'll never learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210730
He's that guy who is too good for putting sage in the email field. It's probably better to just ignore him straight out instead of providing the gratification of receiving a response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210737
I'm not a fan of visible not-sage but in this case he's right, and I'm not going to hold that against him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210716
>>12210722
Gauge was a reasonably popular porn star. I remember stile posting her often. I just assumed someone would remember that.

Even if someone didn't know who she was does it matter? Look at my original post and remove the word Gauge, and replace it with "short porn star". You don't have to sperg out because you didn't know a porn actresses' name.
>>12210727
Gosh you're right anon, I googled Gauge myself just now and I can already hear the sirens.
>>12210734
You don't even know who you're talking to, my first response in that conversation line was the one bringing up gauge because I took issue with your response to the
>Loli is more about body type
line but it didn't even matter because in the end we were basically on the same page.

[Samurai Sageru No.]

>>12210752
>Gosh you're right anon, I googled Gauge myself just now and I can already hear the sirens.
I wasn't objecting to looking it up on a basis of fear of a party van.

>You don't even know who you're talking to, my first response in that conversation line was the one bringing up gauge
>You don't even know who you're talking to
How ironic, as I didn't make a single post until I started calling you a retard for bringing up this "Gauge" person and then posting her picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210771
Oh well, I'm glad we got to have this wonderful exchange because you didn't recognize a name.

[Freezing No.]

>Bara is safe

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210816
Considering that most bara is "shota on bara", and that the age of the bear is chosen for its contrast, I'd say that it really isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210826
Isn't bara just the gay version of "/ss/"? Why would they go after the straight stuff but let the gay stuff pass? That seems like the opposite of what a normie would do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210826

But that's wrong.

>>12210831

The gay version of /ss/ would be loli + female.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210838
Well, most bara manga heavily feature age difference and the domination of young men by older men. I don't know if we're going by the asinine "underage" or the real "prepubescent" definition of shota, but the point is usually to emphasize the domination of the smaller, younger man by the larger, older man, by playing up his age and strength, etc. I believe this can be traced from its roots in the Japanese S&M subcultures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210826
>Considering that most bara is "shota on bara
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210844
You were already replied to here: >>12210843

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210843
Don't a lot of bara artists also draw shotacon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209722
I guess I'm one of the few who visits Google from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210843

stop pulling shit out of your ass

bara is all burly men

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210843
>I don't know if we're going by the asinine "underage" or the real "prepubescent" definition of shota

There is and always was only one definition for shota. A prepubescent body is necessary.

Besides domination of a weaker character is popular everywhere.

>>12210846

Not really. I only know Mentaiko who does it occasionally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210852
Well, since it became popular with Westerners, mainly women, a few artists have toned themselves down in that department. I know artists who upload baraxshota to an entirely different account to avoid alienating their overseas audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210843
>I believe this can be traced from its roots in the Japanese S&M subcultures.

in early real homo porn magazines, I remember very young men being portrayed with older guys, and I wouldn't be shocked if it originated there. it's no surprise, given the west's attitude toward anything that even suggests pedos, and the Japanese attitude toward homosexuality, that they've been trying to distance themselves from it.

[Anonymous No.]

This is all the fault of pro-American conservatives of the LDP. I hope netouyo dumbfucks are happy now after voting for retarded conservatives and getting fucked in the ass by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210859
>it became popular with Westerners, mainly women

is this why bara incest was easy to find before 2010 but now it's fucking impossible

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210854
Mentaiko's younger characters are hardly even shota

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210897
Not to you, but try explaining that to an idiot normal, or that it's okay because you "self-insert" at them. That's why this kind of idiocy is destructive. It ends up catching everything in the whirlwind, even if you think you're safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210897

This is one without a doubt though. Indeed though I would never call Mentaiko a shota artist.

[Anonymous No.]

good

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210912
one's all it takes, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210920

Not really. One doujin out of thousand doesn't push you in another category. It's more like "He is that bara artist that drew a shota doujin once"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210843
>Well, most bara manga heavily feature age difference and the domination of young men by older men.

I've seen that too. It's my theory that the shotaness is 'displaced' into the reader through this mechanism, and through the heavy incest themes that seem to permeate the gender. This would also explain why it's risen in prominence the past few months, as the censors sharpen their knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210934
nature cannot be suppressed

it only returns in a more potent and twisted form

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210928
it's enough for a normie

[Xenos No.]

Why does America keep thinking cartoons and animation are only for children?

Plus we have the whole GTA causes Columbine bullshit. Violent media doesn't force people to commit crime. That's not on the book or anime or game. That's on the damn person.

Let's defend real people and kids and prosecute the real people who abuse them.

Let's not waste time on prosecuting ink on page.

It's like lawmakers and CNN have a hard time determining fiction from reality.

[Xenos No.]

The idea that comic books can be banned is horrifying.

Lawmakers and law enforcement no longer will be prosecuting actual crimes against actual people. They'll be prosecuting people on fictional crimes. We'll have moved onto pre-crime and thought crime. We'll have me

No actual humans are harmed in these books as Ken Akamatsu points out and that CNN dumbass fails to comprehend. It is the witchhunters like him and folks like Jack Thompson that have trouble separating fiction from reality.

To ban comics based on content is to prosecute people on thought crimes. You could also argue that a book of fictional violence or political themes is subversive and ban that. Then what kind of police state government would we have? That would go against the very essence of freedom of speech.

It is a disturbingly Orwellian idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210998
>It's like lawmakers and CNN have a hard time determining fiction from reality.
It's funny how lawmakers and the media think people who play GTA or enjoy lolicon have trouble telling fiction from reality, but I'm 100% positive it's them if they whine about it so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210998
why do you think so many of them claim they're "doing god's work" while spreading hate, suspicion and destroying lives of innocent people?

they can't differentiate because they're already living in a fantasy world, where both are true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210998
Quit bumping your turd, guys. This isn't pre-split anything anymore and you aren't fooling anybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12211013
What?

[Xenos No.]

>>12211009
Yeah. Some assholes who play GTA or watch lolicon may be out of touch and need psychological help. That's on the person, not the media.

Yet all these elected officials can't determine a fictional video game where you kill hookers or rap songs about shooting cops or books where you have sex with some young princess. Yeah. It seems like they have trouble understanding fiction.

This dumb bastard was almost vice president. His and Jack Thompson's buddy Hillary is certainly running in 2016.

With liberals like these, who needs conservatards!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12210998
>Why does America keep thinking cartoons and animation are only for children?
Japan also does too.

[Anonymous No.]

tldr people in japan can still obtain cp with complete anonymity regardless of it being illegal.

This dumb new law won't change anything. Moralfag politicians can go suck a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12211036
>>12211038
Rant retard. Either develop some very basic reading comprehension and/or get a life. Neither of those is so very hard to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12211071
We're not the same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12205898

I can't believe people are still quoting Brass Eye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12211730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q-U2THOF00

[Anonymous No.]

>>12209971
>No, that's just you being a pedophile and trying to force your beliefs.
Stop being overly defensive and stupid. Body type is a huge indicator of age. Thus, if lolicon are attracted to the idea of "underage," an underaged body-type would be the norm.

This isn't only restricted to pre-pubescent body-types, but rather a more general range of adolescence and pubescence. The beauty of loli is in "blossoming." I don't consider toddlercon to be "proper lolicon." The root of "lolicon"--lolita--is about a man obsessing about a girl in pre-/pubescent sexual transition.

Yes, it's a lot more than just the body. It's about the "suggested age" which is hinted at by clothing, body, hairstyle, speech mannerisms, etc. However, it would be stupid to ignore the role that body type plays in such an appeal.

>looking prepubescent.
I said nothing of the sort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12205874
Honolulu once placed as the 28th most live-able city on earth. In other words, even during the peak of Americas living conditions, the highest America placed was 28th. Also, America is the 12th most free country on earth, listed as "mostly free".

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/20/video-the-daily-show-compares-japanese-content-laws-to-american-gun-laws

Make it stop, please!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212663
Loli and guns, they want to destroy thing nerds love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212663
That turd knows it's legal here, too, doesn't he?

If they ban this, I'm done. I'll just join whatever far-right group will have me, and hopefully we'll be able to tear down this civilization. Maybe the cockroaches will build something better.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking japan caving to the 外圧..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212676

When is japan gonna america,

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212684
*Nuke

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212663

Cue the racist Godzilla [Character analogous with the horror of Hiroshima and Nagasaki] joke.

Had it been a holocaust joke, Daily Show would've been gone, Fucking jews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212663

Stop getting offended by satire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212697
>satire.

It's politically motivated, have you watched the daily show?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212697
It's not satire. It's John ``Stewart'' Liebowitz attempting to rally popular opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't actually get the video to play, but I can watch the ad at the beginning every time. Where would I be without my greatest ally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212712

...You do know what "satire" means, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212715
Satire is militant irony. In Mr. Liebowitz's case, there's no irony. He legitimately believes what he is saying. There's no double meaning. He simply believes it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212712
>It's not satire.

What's funny is the whole "It's a joke!" excuse is used whenever the Daily Shit is called out on it's BS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212719

>Satire is a genre of literature, and sometimes graphic and performing arts, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, corporations, government or society itself, into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon and as a tool to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212721

>A lie is a false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth, intentionally.[1] Lies can be told for various reasons and with various amounts of success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212722

I fail to see what relevance this has to the definition of satire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212724

Using satire to push a moral and/or political agenda. Then claiming you were "joking" when called out is dishonest. That's the type of "satire" Daily Showfags use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212734

It's possible for jokes to have political points. What are you doing watching topical satire if you're going to get upset by people not sharing your views?

You know, I'm beginning to see why all of the good stand-up ends up spending most of their time touring Britain, Europe, Australia, and basically anywhere but America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212738
Europe is not a single country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212741

Uh, thanks for that, Captain Obvious, but I don't think I said that it was. Neither's Britain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212738
>It's possible for jokes to have political points.

It's also possible to use the fact that something is jokes to deflect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12212665

How do we stop this? How do we stop them? Does our position in the belly of the Western beast give us an improved position from which to fight?

I just wish I knew what to do. All my life I've had no purpose, but fighting this shit seems like it might fit the bill.

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>>12212738
I wonder where the line between jokes having political points and political points disguised as jokes begin and end.

Pretending to be retarded is still being retarded after all.

And if Mister Stewart isn't welcome in America, maybe he should fuck off to these aforementioned countries/continent.

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>>12212749
Just stock up more guns and bullets and loli (in your HDD).

Don't protest, just act.

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>>12212754
>more guns and bullets (physically)*

When thing's gone down, that's the only thing you can count on.

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Does it really matter whether you call it satire or not? He's equating something "obviously outrageous" with something he thinks should be "obviously outrageous". He's trying to make them equate guns with child porn. The result on our end is the same. More negative exposure, more pressure on Japan from the outside.

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>>12212757
I don't care really, I just know retards will watch that show and agree with him.

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>>12212752

You'd have to be an idiot to think someone who makes "jokes" with the same political slant over and over is just being facetious.

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>>12212749
>Does our position in the belly of the Western beast give us an improved position from which to fight?

It's the opposite really. You'll die with the evil system.

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>>12212757
How did the LDP get elected? I'm curious. Given their nature, and that they hang with Ishihara, shouldn't Stewart hate them?

>>12212764
The joke is on you. I was going to kill myself anyway. I'll actually live longer this way!

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>>12212769
>How did the LDP get elected? I'm curious. Given their nature, and that they hang with Ishihara, shouldn't Stewart hate them?

There nature doesn't matter, in japan tradition trumps politics. They're only banning CP because of the olympics. Which is why they took so long to stop production [1999] and possession 2014]. It's got nothing to do with morals, it's just appeasing to the west.

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>>12212762
I know, it's just an excuse.

He doesn't mix it up, and it doesn't even try to be funny.

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>>12212775
So after the Olympics, will things return to normal, do you think? Or will the "new" tradition have supplanted the old one?

From what little I know, the Olympics usually maim whatever location is unfortunate enough to suffer them, so will there be a backlash, do you think?

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>>12212781
It's Japan, so probably not.

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>>12212783
Probably not in response to which one, exactly?

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>>12212781

It hasn't supplemented it. Rather it's just temporary white washing. Japanese don't have the vitriol against pedophilia that westerners have. If they did, JR idol [A loop hole to CP] wouldn't exsist. It's just curbing their behavior for the sake of appearances. If they could, they would repeal alot of laws from the west. Once the west is gone they probably will.

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>>12212785
Initially I had only meant the backlash, but thinking about it a bit more I guess it could apply to both. If things change it's so much easier to not change them back, and it doesn't seem like many people would try to do much about it.

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>>12212302
Those lists are made by bitter Eurotrash who don't consider being forbidden by law to not insult Islam or feminism to be obstruction to freedom.

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>>12212738
>Britain
>Australia
but those places are just as bad, if not worse than usa. why would anyone want to move to an even bigger shithole than they lived in?

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Who let the normies in? I think I just saw pro-Americans! Goodness gracious.

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I just saw a cute loli wearing a bikini from my window. She was waiting for her fat cousin to go to the pool and got bored after a while. Then she started dancing and moving her butt while looking at her own image on a car's window. It's amazing how careless lolis can be. She wasn't even that young, probably in 5th grade. What if someone saw her dancing like that?

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>>12212769
>How did the LDP get elected?

Abenomics

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>>12213317
Is Abe a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

Really? Of all the things they could be working on, this is the biggest problem? How pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>censorship is evil lol FUCKIGN REPUBLICNS
>wtff U SICK PEDO FREAKS stoP OPPRwessING WOMYN WITH CARTOON IMAGES THIS IS JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST ALL OVER AGAIN

- john leibowitzs

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>>12212663
>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/20/video-the-daily-show-compares-japanese-content-laws-to-american-gun-laws
>>12212670
>>12212702
>>12212712


I think some of you might not be that familiar with Stewart.

J Stew actually knows quite a bit about manga and anime, has do most of his writers. I think what he was trying to do in the clip was point out the inherent hypocrisy of any American pointing out a perceived moral flaw in Japanese culture, when American's themselves have the same cultural flaw, if not a greater one, since hentai has never killed anyone (I presume, maybe someone has gone out from dehydration). The whole joke before the NRA logo, is a set up, him acting like an indignant American, only to facepalm.

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>>12213342
And the point was that both child models and guns are bad things. It's satire but it has a very purposeful agenda and you're dumb as fuck for not seeing it.

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>>12213346
Firearms, like lolicon pornography, doesn't hurt kids. Gun owners (the ones who shoot chidlren) and pedophiles (the ones who molest children) hurt kids.

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>>12213339
Liberals are fine with pic related degeneracy but if someone loves pure beautiful lolis it has to be banned.

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>>12213349
The recent legislation in Japan has nothing to do with molesting kids you stupid fucking retard.

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>>12213355
That's nice.

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>>12213361
Yeah, and so your equivalency is a complete joke. I'm glad I could educate you a bit on the issues.

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>>12213322

>Definition of Abenomics

Abenomics is the name given to a suite of measures introduced by Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe after his December 2012 re-election to the post he last held in 2007. His aim was to revive the sluggish economy with "three arrows": a massive fiscal stimulus, more aggressive monetary easing from the Bank of Japan, and structural reforms to boost Japan's competitiveness.

By the end of February the measures had resulted in a dramatic weakening of the yen and a 22 per cent rise in the Topix stock market index since his election win. Japan's central bank had also yielded to pressure from Mr Abe's administration to set an inflation target of 2 per cent.

-----

DPJ had no equivalent, no wonder they lost the December 2012 General Elections.

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>>12213369
>create a bubble through inflation and massive government spending
>"see, look at this economic growth I've created by breaking that window"

keynesians should all be killed

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>>12213355

More like DIET finally put a smackdown on those who are also pushing fictional works for inclusion. For years the motion for outlawing cp possession couldn't move forward because it's either too broad of a paintbrush or you have outside forces pushing to include fictional works.

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>>12213362
You didn't tell anybody anything new, but if you feel good about it I guess you won.

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>>12209872
>and furthermore try to push the idea that 12-14 anime characters aren't within the loli range
So much fucking this.
I wish people like >>12209879 would die and take along their shitty misconceptions.

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>>12213372
Go back to /pol/ and shittext there.

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>>12213401
They feature so prominently in nearly all hentai that in order for the normies to do anything about it, they'd have to essentially gut the genre.

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>>12213401
No. Teen crap is not loli and you do not get to join the Lolicon Club, pseudo-normie.

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>>12213372
>yen weakened to favorable levels (cheaper to buy ota-goods)
>profits are up in major corporations
>Nikkei is way up, from an all time low of 8000 to 16000

Japan has been in deflationary cycle for years, and that right there is the bigger overall threat.

It needed a jump start, Abenomics was needed just as what the doctors prescribed.

The 1st and 2nd arrows worked spectacularly.
Abe and his party is now sharpening the 3rd arrow... and I think the 3rd arrow's lasting signature would be joining the TPP.

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>>12213355
I think that's his point you're paraphrasing.
I don't think you have the right to call him a stupid fucking retard, however.

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>>12213349
>Firearms, like lolicon pornography, doesn't hurt kids. Gun owners (the ones who shoot chidlren) and child molesters (the ones who molest children) hurt kids.

fixed.

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>>12213410
I'm not sure what Japan gets from the TPP. By stealth (1980s investments) Japan already has possession of trade to USA (think Sony etc). There are no real trade barriers against Japanese goods anywhere in the world. So why not continue to protect the rice farmers. Except for Sony, no other Japanese corporations have Western CEOs

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>>12213418
Not the way the Japanese Police/Lawmakers see it. They busted that 3D Printer gun otaku real hard

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>>12213349
>Firearms, like lolicon pornography, doesn't hurt kids. Deranged shooter who got guns from illegal channels (the ones who shoot chidlren) and child molesters (the ones who molest children) hurt kids.

fixed.

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>>12205481
>"The goal of the law itself is to protect children from crime," he said. "Banning such expression in animation under this law would not satisfy the goal of the law."
Wow, a man who isn't crazy.

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i like guns and lolis

where do i join a militia to fight the oppressive government

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>>12213425
>Banning pictures of naked kids protects children

how

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>>12213427
Not sure how you can help. Not even the Yakuza got into Pizza distribution. My understanding only solo "business" men because involved in underground distribution before this recent law.
Maybe the Yakuza will step up so maybe you could try joining the Korean / Chinese mafia

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>>12213420

Outside United States there's still barriers on jap goods from other future/potential TPP members: Korea, Taiwan, Mexico, Malaysia, Peru, Australia.

Also, there's still real trade barriers for foreign goods entering Japan and that needs fixing .

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>>12213447
Laughing at the idea that foreign goods have trade barriers detrimental to the Japanese (corporations). Having shopped in Japan and shocked at their low prices compared to Australia.

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>>12213449

Just how high is the VAT in australia?

I also noted how jap sales tax is lower than in most american cities.

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>>12213456
Australia has a GST (Goods and Services Tax of 10% - most of which is meant to flow back to our State Governments). Recent claims by our Liberals (Conservatives) is that the $300 billion of Australian borrowings needs to be paid off now! Political shennigans with State Governments ensues.

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Some american TV shit says than Japan voted today for ban CP on manga and anime.
Is it true ? Does someone here have a japanese source ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-bmj81_i1k

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>>12213509
No.

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>>12213427
Don't bother. Instead, support emerging technology that will directly diminish state power and the power of normies. Make 3D models of lolies and guns and put them in a torrent. Make a VR game where if you shoot all the evil normie zombies and save the loli then you get to kiss her.

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>>12213509

>Posession of CP
>$9,800 fine
>1 year of detention

Talk about bargain of the century!

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>>12213342
>J Stew actually knows quite a bit about manga and anime

Stopped reading there.

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>>12213409
I think you tend to see this sentiment just because of American Age of Consent. Since in America it's generally 18 you have 16 and 17 being those ages where it's sort of like that kind of 'forbidden fruit' stuff you might get away with writing a sultry novel about. Though 15 and 14 are apparently definitely pedophilia and the destruction of a beautiful childhood, despite the average kid starting heroin at 8 and being anally deflowered by 12.

On the other hand Japan's age ... honestly I don't know what it is. I thought it was just 16 but googling says it's 13 but prefectures overrule it and they're usually 18. Whatever for whatever reason I feel like that "forbidden fruit" range in Japanese culture is just lower than ours. I mean I realize that lolicon and pedophile are pretty interchangeable, it just seems like pedo is pretty misused stateside.

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>>12213342
The most obscure thing him and his writers know is Eva. The thing with the Hentai Ouji girl was just a result of one of the writers doing an image search of "hentai" on google. Him, his writers, and all the people in that audience want both guns and loli banned. Fuck them. They do all that they do just to feel above others, all the people on all news shows are like that. They all just want to score points.

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>>12213433
he cracks down on 3d stuff while leaving 2d alone. that's how.

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So wait, loli doujins are illegal now? Fucking shit

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>>12214427
Pedo is completely ruined as a word these days and only function as an insult. That is probably why people are so interested in claiming the lolicon title as a positive word for the same thing.

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>>12214683
Can you not read?

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>>12213537
you could even make a game where you are the loli, and shoot normie protesters, activists and politicians.

you could have them scream slogans like "death to personal freedom", "if you don't want them recording you take a shit, you're definitely a pedo" or "drawings are literally worse than hitler" and then splatter into chunks of gore as you shoot them.

for additional flavor, have the loli use silly duke-ish one liners.

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>>12214718
See >>12213509

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>>12214853
Oh.

Can you not understand spoken language?

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>>12214905
Not me, but you yes.

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>>12214636
There's nothing wrong with possessing images of either.

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>>12214852

FUND IT

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>>12214852
I will give you my money.

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>>12215055,1
Except for the children exploited so that the pictures can exist in the first place.

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>>12215450,1
Ironically if it were legal to make super realistic 3D images, that could be ended.

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>>12215450,2
That is extremely unrelated to what I said, please kill yourself.

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>>12214715
Yeah I guess so, you can't define anything with pedophile because it's used to define anyone who wants to fuck someone younger than the woman who is using it as a pejorative. Even someone who thinks a 17 year old is a

>>12214561
Uhg I finally watched this and had to see some upbeat paki try to sell me a Microsoft Surface. While it's satirical he basically does make an analogy between loli and guns, which I guess depending on your opinion might be as harmless as one another. Though it's sort of obvious he's stating that loli doujin is just a dangerous and harmful to children as under-regulated civilian proliferation of arms. I know it's a comedy show, but anyone who thinks comedians aren't the same as anyone else in the media is sorely mistaken.

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>>12214715
Yeah I guess so, you can't define anything with pedophile because it's used to define anyone who wants to fuck someone younger than the woman who is using it as a pejorative. Even someone who thinks wanting to bang a 17 year old makes you a pedo. As if there is some switch in your dick that will get hard the second she hits 18 but not a moment sooner.

>>12214561
Uhg I finally watched this and had to see some upbeat paki try to sell me a Microsoft Surface. While it's satirical he basically does make an analogy between loli and guns, which I guess depending on your opinion might be as harmless as one another. Though it's sort of obvious he's stating that loli doujin is just a dangerous and harmful to children as under-regulated civilian proliferation of arms. I know it's a comedy show, but anyone who thinks comedians aren't the same as anyone else in the media is sorely mistaken.

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>>12215493
Those people are aware you can just MAKE a loli, right?

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>>12215496
It's a pretty popular concept that you'll catch being a pedophile from 'cartoon child porn' or that pedophiles will use it to 'psyche themselves up' to the real thing. It's natural that Jewart would uphold the populist opinion.

If anything we should be happy he didn't make a huge issue out of it, a few quick jabs, and bring it home with a NRA joke. It'll be more or less under the radar again.

If anyone ever decides to take a tour bus of people to Gensokyo just make sure you burn your Comic LO beforehand and we should be fine.

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just watched that daily show clip, god what a retarded fucking jew

"drawings of things I don't like are harmful"

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>>12215509,1
well, he is john leibowitz anyway

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>>12215509,1

It's an echo chamber for old people, what do you expect

[Anonymous No.]

if they're so so concerned about pedophilia, why don't they take a look at hollywood

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>>12215509,3
pretty sure the target audience for the daily show is college kids and teenagers, not old people

[Anonymous No.]

if they're so so concerned about pedophilia, why don't they take a look at my pants LMAO

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>>12215509,4
Because Jon Leibowitz knows that Hollywood is full of fellow Jews and he would never criticize a fellow chosen

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>>12215509,1
At least Colbert's got the right idea. Let the free market decide if child porn is allowed or not.

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>>12215509
>If anyone ever decides to take a tour bus of people to Gensokyo just make sure you burn your Comic LO beforehand and we should be fine.
this is why i believe this fandom needs to drop the whole physical media thing and go full digital, with doujins sold through dlsite rather than conventions.

a dead man's switch is much easier to set up than predict when you die to destroy everything you have.

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>>12215612
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

feel when janny assmad ban requested me 50 times so none of these nerds will know im ghostreply OWNING them

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215612,2
Epic ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215509,8
le lolbtard face

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>>12215509,5
I thought that Colbert's demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215612,5
there's no difference

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>>12215509,5
My 50 year old something dad watches it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215612,7
How young are you?

[Anonymous No.]

23.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215612,9
meant to quote >>12215612,8

[Anonymous No.]

I'm surprised they got Ken Akamatsu, at least that part was well done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12215450,1
If you confiscate all the preexisting porn, won't people need to make more to replace it?

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>>12215612,7
My dad watches it too, but he's older than 50.

[Anonymous No.]

https://falkvinge.net/2012/05/23/cynicism-redefined-why-the-copyright-lobby-loves-child-porn/
i missed the thread and ill post it in the next when someone makes it but if anyones still here

its never about the children.

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>>12216339
*anyone's

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyc7rjPJ4I8

Are there any arguments for banning the drawn stuff that aren't irrational?

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>>12216430
there is an argument that seems rational if you are ignorant about the subject but is complete bullshit.
that is, the same logic behind people wanting to ban violent videogames and whatnot.
its more accepted simply cause "protect the children"

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>>12216430
He's rolling his eyes pretty convincingly! Oh man that Coca Cola metaphor. Yeah man, jacking it to porno is only as satisfying as looking at a picture of a beverage, good point.

[Anonymous No.]

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