Kantai Collection - Kancolle

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English Wiki: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
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Please read (before asking newbie questions)
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://imgur.com/a/7HZO7/all

Japanese Wikis:
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others:
Air Superiority Calculator: https://googledrive.com/host/0B97S3y_L0wtXbW1TaDh5WG9XTjA/index2.html
Detailed Battle Mechanics: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/
Kancolle Viewer: https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Kancolle Viewer (Translated): https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

Please try to keep emoticons, event hype/paranoia/PTSD, greentext, Re, Wo, and dumb questions to a reasonable minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180861
For 5 minutes there was no thread, my life was so empty

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180865
You should only need your daughters to live. Not us.

[Anonymous No.]

Please keep your sanity intact, don't be like Captain Ahab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180861
Looking at a glance, i cannot recognize the carriers at OP image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180886
Split your lungs with blood and thunder
When you see the white whale
Break your backs and crack your oars men
If you wish to prevail

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at Niconico videos of 5-5, so many people use Zuihoe for the 2CV 1 CVL setup. Is there any particular reason for that apart from her cuteness? Seeing that there are stronger CVLs stat-wise

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>>12180900
They believe that her luck will save her from Re probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180900
It doesn't really matter which CVL you use, one shot from Re and they're done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180900
She's cute. That's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.]

I shall leave this as my fleet as I sleep.

Please remember to think of the whales, as whaling is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180887
The kanji is readable a bit, but you can know it from the colors too: orange - green - purple - red

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180985
Nobody needs easy sparkles right now. We are busy leveling our carriers for Midway.

Happy whaling.

[Anonymous No.]

What now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180991
Time to give up and start stockpiling, you can still get 500+ for Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180991
Prepare your asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180991
>Ship Girls: 137 / 140.
Just spend more money.

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Does great success affect the amount of the item you get? Like, would it be worth it to sparkle ships before 2 to increase the chance of getting the bucket from it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181006
No, you just get the the for great success items (Those on the right)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181006
I think there was a nip excel table that showed that it's always 50%, sparkles don't matter for the first item.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181012
This one?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys pull off the 2-5 south route with a light fleet exactly? Sparkle everything and pray nothing will ever hit your girls?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an easier way to get more subs?

All I got is Imuya from Construction and haven't gotten another one since.

Still only at 2-3 since I'm an idiot .

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181027
just pray to rng, or get some sacrifices.
I'm having that trouble as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181029
Unless you have a lot of anti submarine equipment already, which you probably don't, the answer is no.
Go train your big ships and otherwise you have to wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181027
How about using medium ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181037
North route is reasonable but heavy on buckets and I don't like the Ri-roulette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181040
whats the cheapest south node composition?
I'm avoiding south node because my luck keep getting me the F node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181040
It's either Ri-roulette or Ru-roulette

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181042
2BB 2CAV 2CV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181042
Something like DD DD CVL CLT CAV CAV is very cheap, but good luck with the "surviving" part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181044
What about Wo-roulette?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181040
>>12181045
Either the Ri-lette or the Ru-lette.

Pick your poison, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181047
You can dodge the wo node

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181047
Skippable

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181047
Right. This one's the Wo-lette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181049
2-5 is a shit map

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181045
that what lost me in 2-5, keep going to F node.

>>12181046
I'm currently using the 2CLT 1DD 2CAV 1CA, its really heavy on bucket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181047
not skippable with good fleets but easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181055
Easy to clear, once a month.
But unbearable to farm daily.

[Anonymous No.]

2-5 should have Re-chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181036
Does that mean 1-5 is the place to farm for subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181058
Totally agreed with this, map was pretty easy if its not the rng.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181060
Farm sub, jack up your TTK level, and get your ass kicked when Midway hit.

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>>12181060
I think they all drop on the bossnode and on the nodes in between so technically yes.
But it's not really farming until you have sufficient equipment and a few levels under your belt and subs won't help you beat events either.
You should try getting 4BBs and 2CVs and leveling those up as much as you can, since those are ships you'll have to rely on after you finish the tutorial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180987
Yes, i only know who's who from the color.

>>12181040
>heavy on buckets
It's only 1 or 2 bucket per sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181068
>only 1 or 2
yeah right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181068
>It's only 1 or 2 bucket per sortie.
What secret are you hiding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181068
>only 1 or 2
that is only sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181029
Use 1BB/V + 4DD/CL + any ship you want to level or another DD/CL and keep clearing the first 3 nodes of 1-5, subs drop from 3rd node of either route. Retreat after 3rd node. You get to level your ships and you don't even need anti-sub equipments.

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>>12181056
I don't know, a lot of admirals are also detoured to F node, but I swear I have no problem with this fleet setup. BB is 46/41/recon/radar, CAV is 2x20.3/recon/radar, and 1 Saiun in Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181040
What? Its like, 1 bucket per run.

Yasen node is bonus xp if you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181089
I mean 1-2 bucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181068
>>12181089
How many times have you S ranked this map?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181089
that looks nice, what are the equips?
2gun,radar, zuiun/recon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181056
previously i tried all sorts of combination with 2+ BBs but i always ended up at node F.

then i switched to 1 BB 2 CV + 3 CA/CLT and never went to node F since then.

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>>12181089
how much does resource consumption?

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>>12181094
you mean turbines are actually useful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181103
It gets buffed few updates ago, now I'm using it for subslaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181100
3CLT works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181094
do you get enough LOS if you use turbines tho

[Anonymous No.]

For those asking for 2-5 compositions, best 2 compostions so far are 2CAV 2CVL 2DD and 2CAV CVL CLT 2DD. Both guaranteed boss node.

Route is: B -> E -> H -> L

The second seems to use a bit less buckets than the first one, also for both the chance to reach the boss without any of your ships getting to red seems to be above 90% so they are both quite good and also not too resource heavy, specially since you avoid the wo kai node.

There are 2 ways of reaching the boss LoS requirements with this comp, either having 2 obs planes on each of your CAVs or having only 1 on each and a yellow plane, providing you already have sonars on most of your other ships.

The usual equipment I use on both are:

CAV: 2 x 20.3cm, 1 x Seiran, 1 x type 32 Radar
CVL: 1 x Reppuu kai, 2 x Ryuusei kai, 1 Saiun
CLT: 1 x ko-hyoteki, 1 x 20.3cm, 1 x type 32 Radar
DD: 1 x 10cm 1 x quintuple torpedo 1 x type 33 radar

Line ahead on all nodes always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181116
>2DD
>Line ahead
>chance to reach the boss without any of your ships getting to red seems to be above 90%

how the hell

[Anonymous No.]

Took me long enough, but I'm finally there

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181095
Not him, but i always S rank the map and just enough to get the monthly medal.
Although that comes with heavy bucket count.

Don't know whether torpedo cruisers should be changed with CA or other ships.

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>>12181117
Evasion is boosted because of fast fleet and also line ahead boosts armor which makes your DD sometimes don't get to red from a fRU attack. You can try double line but the results seem to be worse, though the sample for trying anything but line ahead is very small.

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>>12181147
>line ahead boosts armor
Formations seem to have different bonus every day.

[Anonymous No.]

What do rankers do to keep up the resources?
I can't help but loose at least one in particular.
With Exp 2,37,38 it's fuel and bauxite, with Exp 2,6,38 it's fuel again. I'm sparkling it all too, trying out 21,37,38 now but I'm looking bauxite and buckets at fast pace again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181157
Resource hoarding and monthly rank racing can't come together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181157
I think the good way to do it is to stockpile for one month and spend it during the other. You shouldn't participate in ranking if you're just scraping by.

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>>12181159
I had nice stockpiles but ended up wasting fuel and ammo and now I'm down to 9/16k but still have decent values for steel and bauxite 37/55 and 550 from 650 buckets.
I'm scared of trying to do 5-5 and failing and being unable to keep up the regular farming I do and/or ultimately falling of the chart when the other rankers decide to clear 5-5 or anythign that gives them a big jump on the last few days where I won't have any reserve or free space to fall back on.
Ranking sure is tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181055
2-5 is easier to farm compare to all the 5-x map.
It is a map with 100% hit rate without running fatass BB and CV.

Cute DDs represent

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181202
>easier
nope

cheaper, sure, but 5-2 is a cakewalk if you don't care about costs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181202
I have a lot less trouble with 5-4 than with 2-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181202
whats the total los for this?

>>12181204
agree, excepts the ammo usage I could run 5-2 up to six times without repairing.

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the formula for counting LOS in 2-5 again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181212
radar + 2 * plane + sqrt(ship)

But I think that applies to every los check

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181207
Doubt it matter.
Just put a recon plane on all your CA/CAV and you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

hi /jp/
I just get into this game recently, there is a lot of things I still don't know, so I hope you guys can help me out.

>
-What does leveling do to the ship daughters other than for remodeling?

I check through the FAQ of the wiki page but the only thing I can confirm is that it increase the ship's hit rate. The stats of the ship can be increase by modernization, so if I just wanna have good stats on a ship I can just modernize it without leveling it right?

>
-Are there really any go-to ship daughters or are you guys choosing the ship based on preferences only?

There are some ships with really outstanding stats according to the wiki, and I chose Shimakaze and Hibiki as my main DDs based on their stats. RJ is a really good CVL, but what about BBs? Kongou's stats is... meh. But I am still using her and Yamashiro as my main BB. Mutsu is just too expensive for me to use.

>
-Any really good composition for the fleet for most of the circumstances?

I noticed that CV is a must for better sustainability of the fleet to go through a map. Anything else is as important? Currently my main fleet consist of 2BBs, 2DDs, 1CV and 1CVL.

Hibiki is my favourite.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181226
All of your questions can be answered by reading the wiki.

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>>12181226
>so if I just wanna have good stats on a ship I can just modernize it without leveling it right?

Technically yes, but read about remodels before that.

>There are some ships with really outstanding stats according to the wiki
Ignore that "outstanding" bullshit.

>-Any really good composition for the fleet for most of the circumstances?
There is no such a thing, use whatever fits the map.

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>>12181226
>I check through the FAQ of the wiki page but the only thing I can confirm is that it increase the ship's hit rate. The stats of the ship can be increase by modernization, so if I just wanna have good stats on a ship I can just modernize it without leveling it right?
Evasion, LOS, ASW are increased with levels as well, however, they have a cap. Hit rate is not explicit but personally, it does improve with level.

>Are there really any go-to ship daughters or are you guys choosing the ship based on preferences only?
If you read the wiki, the difference in max stats aren't very huge except for some areas like Yukikaze's and Shigure's luck make them prime candidates for night battle cut-ins but >>12181231 says, you can safely ignore them. Going for stats will only make your life easier but it is still playable without the 'elite' ships.

>Any really good composition for the fleet for most of the circumstances?
Depends on map. Some map have fixed composition while others allow you to have some flexibility. CV and BB are great but they are expensive to field. CVL and CA are good substitutes for them, experiment around to find the sweet spot. You will still need a diverse fleet for end-game and event maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181216
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181226
Just take note that subslaving is bad and you should feel bad for doing it.

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>>12181226
Before picking ships based on their "outstanding stats", you should check their remodel level first.
RJ is a horrible CVL until you can get her Kai Ni, at level 75.
And Kongou will be one of your main BBs, no matter if you like her or not.

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>>12181245
RJ isn't even that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181252
Third worst CVL isn't that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181226
There's no such thing in this game as "the main ship in the class". Whether you like it or not you're gonna end up with 70+ various ships, all of which will have a use depending on the situation.

[Anonymous No.]

The return of an old favorite.

http://exhentai.org/g/707827/1fbcab88c8/
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b1w8m08w0nhh6/Non-H

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>>12181254
All CVL except Houshou are pretty much the same for ASW-duty in 1-5, RJ isn't the worst options for expeditions, RJ is still good enough for 3-2-A grinding - The only thing where she really falls behind are harder maps like 5-2.
And 3-2-A and 1-5 are enough to grind her to Kai-2 anyway, so she's not horrible at all and no one should opt against leveling her just because she needs her Kai-2 to become one of the better CVL.

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>>12181262
awesome!! thanks

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>>12181231
>>12181234
Thanks! So.. just pick whoever I like as my main fleet is going to do ok right? I've been ignoring CL for the most part (only using them for expedition), guess I can start to lvl them up and also some CAs.

>>12181240
You mean deploying submarines to 2-3? I heard it is as bad as Isuzu farming.

>>12181245
I do check the remodel levels, but I think lvl 25 and lvl 20 is just a small gap. But maybe I am wrong though.

RJ is the first CVL I got (from crafting) which is why I was leveling her. She is the highest level among my fleet (often the MVP girl). I got a Chiyoda, but she misses all her attacks.

Why Kongou?

>>12181259
I do have to train a bunch of ships starting from now I guess.

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>>12181263
The thing is, he stated that he picked those ships because of their stats. That's why he thought RJ is a very good CVL, because of her Kai Ni stats.
Which is a horrible misconception, as a newbie TTK , if he really values the ship stats, he should go for the Chitose sisters instead. better stats, and less hassle to get kai ni.

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>>12181274
>Why Kongou
Because you're going to have maps where slow ships are off-limits.

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>>12181274
>I heard it is as bad as Isuzu farming
It's not that bad. At least you're utilising your subs to do something. Just don't overdo it as it will inflate your HQ level eventually.

>Why Kongou?
They are workhorse of BB especially when it comes to their Kai-ni.

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>>12181278
>if he really values the ship stats
I'm under the impression that Hiyou and Junyou are better stats wise. Chitose/Chiyoda requires quite a bit of investment.

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>>12181278
What's wrong with a long-term investment?
It's not like CVL are great anyway and are pretty much only used by new players who lack CV, 3-2-A grinders and for compass requirements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181286
>It's not like CVL are great anyway
They are cheap alternative.

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>>12181286
Long term investment should comes with great result. Ships like Kiso-Kai2 or Hiryuu-Kai2 are good long term investment. RJ or ChitoChiyo, not so much, though you'll get great damage sprites for the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

This is war, not your silly chinese cartoons. You can't win with love alone.
And if there's no love, there's no point in playing this moe shipgirls game.
Such is the way of the KanCore.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitty resource management club, where we at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181292
You need some CVL, so no reason to opt against those with Kai-2. Unless you want to keep Chi-sisters as AV.

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, should I train 2 of the same ship so that both my fleet have her inside?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181299
Only worth it in rare occasions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181157
2,5(sparkled w 4 daihatsu),21(3 sparkled, 3 daihatsu)

That enabled me to do 1k 5-4's last month with no stockpile. You will lose a lot of buckets if going for a high rank

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>>12181298
'Some' means plural, and I don't think at the beginning stage you need more than one CVL, unless you're stuck with bad drop/crafting result.

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>>12181298
Isn't Chito/Chiyo the best light carriers stat wise?
Level 50 remodel for it is pretty early too.

Kiso-Kai 2 isn't exactly worth it. Why not KTKM or Ooi? The only reason I ran KTKM/Kiso rather than KTKM/Ooi because I loved how Kiso looks. Kiso is slightly tankier for a weakened torpedo stat(the entire point of running KTKM/Ooi).

Also, you can't progress in the game if you just try to farm the best ships of every class. Especially since most of the best ships are much rarer; you'll probably get them once you have ships of the same type that are like 20 levels higher.

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>>12181285
Their slow speed seems to make them less favorable than another fast CVLs.
Though I don't notice the difference at all between fast and slow speed for CVLs.
Or people just don't want to see Junyou in their fleet after some Taihou LSC results.

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>>12181297
yo

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>>12181316
>Kiso-Kai 2 isn't exactly worth it
3 CLTs are better than just 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181316
Yes, but they are also the only AV, and you might want to keep AV for expeditions and not want to keep duplicates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181297
Not sure when to give up on LSC and start hoarding. Even if I did know, I'm not sure if I'd be able to follow through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181327
>not want to keep duplicates.
Unless you don't wish to part with your money, this isn't really a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181284
>inflate your HQ level

Is it a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181330
I'm pretty sure most people here are free-only peasants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181334
If your HQ level was high in the last event, they made it harder. Didn't think it was too big of a deal though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181334
Good luck fighting BB Hime and Wake island when your BBs are in 30s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181334
Level scaling will bite you in the ass. Sub slavery is pretty much okay for HQ 90 and above because growing a level from there takes quite a bit of work however it's not exactly advisable for new players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181334
As someone who had to run 4BB 2CV to clear Arpeggio event due to level disparity, I'd say it is.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it advisable to get a higher admiral level?

I was running 1-5 all day to grind my ships and hunt for submarines; then I realized that I could do the boss just for the metal to trade for the blueprint. It took more tries than I expected because I misclicked the wrong formation/found out that I unequipped my sonar like a fucking retard.

Regardless, 5-6 tries at a whopping fucking 1050 admiral experience each is rather ridiculous.

Regardless; is it better to progress in the game or grind 1-5? The EXP is comparable to 2-2 without the risk of having to repair your ships, but I assume 2-5 has godlike experience.

Also, I heard 2-4 was a fucking bitch to clear; 3 -4 battleships are recommended which is something that's rather hard to obtain until 3-2~ or so is reached(Which requires clearing 2-4).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181327
The investment for Akitsu Maru's daihatsu isn't worth it to justify keeping AV. AV's only use is for opening Tokyo Express expedition
>>12181334
You don't want to get a lot harder enemy fleet when you aren't prepared with good-raised fleet and lots of S-Holo equipments.

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>>12181335
You have a point but I'm pretty sure /jp/ residents are no stranger to mobage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181334
You get better drop rates and craft rates in exchange for some maps becoming harder.

>>12181341
The cap in Arpeggio was 45 and the cap in spring was 80. Both were pretty easy events overall with weak rewards, while Midway has been hyped up as impossible for a while now. The scaling will either be higher or non-existent, and probably the latter if Shinano ends up being the best carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181347
See all answers to this post >>12181334

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181307
Damn shame I only have two, thank you anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181341
Good luck reaching the boss with your BBs only in 30s. That'y hard enough even with the scaled down version.

>>12181349
exp 36 is pretty good to run over night even without 4 Daihatsu.

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>>12181347
Apparently there was a discussion admiral level while I was typing this out. Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181347
>Also, I heard 2-4 was a fucking bitch to clear
Not with the new mechanics. Back then, brute force was the easy way out, later sub cheesing make it pretty easy, now daytime double and cut-in attacks are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181347
> fucking bitch to clear;
No, not really. It's a wake up-call, sure, but later maps are at least twice to three times as frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181362
It has good rewards, but too long for overnight expedition, for me at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181347
What the fuck is a metal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181374
There's some guy who keeps referring to medal as metal for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181378
Fuck me. I was reading the wiki page for world 1, and some guy called it a "metal" rather than medal and it just stuck with me. Every time I try to type out medal it just comes out as metal.
>>12181365
So without sub-cheesing, you just run a small/medium ship that can equip seaplanes and pray for double/cut-ins? Thank god they made it easier, I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181391
>pray
You need to achieve air superiority to get them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181391
Bring CV. You would need air superiority/dominance for it. You will probably take some tries with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181392
Artillery spotting is still a coin flip. Like everything else in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181406

But with a mixed set-up you get a 60% of doing something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181392
>>12181393
>>12181406
So not only do you need ridiculous amounts of fighter planes/firepower for air superiority, it's still a fucking coin toss?

Eh, then again I guess that's no reason to complain. The fact that RNG fucking hates your guts is what makes the game so fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181415
>The fact that RNG fucking hates your guts is what makes the game so fun.
I take it you have not participated an event before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181415
>ridiculous amounts of fighter planes/firepower
You're confusing superiority with supremacy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181414
ooooooh, an extra ~10% what an improvement

even the anti air is a coin flip, what a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181416
Nope. But Midway soon, and I'm going to get completely destroyed. Hopefully I'll be pulling out my hair and sobbing bitch tears when it's over.

That'll leave some good memories. I read that spring E5 was true hell; ships sank, resources died, buckets lost, RNG laughed

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181421
>anti air is a coin flip
No it's not. Use the fucking calculator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181438
> I read that spring E5 was true hell; ships sank, resources died, buckets lost, RNG laughed
Alot of people here considered it was a fucking joke because no regen boss gauge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181440
read the fucking wiki, anti-air is a coin flip

even talking about aerial battle, the number of bombers you shoot down is also a fucking coin flip, can't believe the percentage starts from 0%

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181443
Is the fall event the one where everyone killed themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181438
>I read that spring E5 was true hell; ships sank, resources died, buckets lost, RNG laughed
Maybe for people who hadn't experienced Ironbottom Sound. Spring's E-5 was nothing to sweat over; it didn't even have a regenerating gauge and it was the only challenging map in the event. If anything's going to bring back the hell of last year's fall event, it's Midway. If regeneration ever makes a comeback it'll be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181446
Coin flip implies that you have no control over the outcome. I know you like the phrase, but use it where appropriate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181450
anti-air fire is the phase after aerial battle genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181450
>Each enemy bomber slot is assigned at random to a defending ship. Those ships then, for each assigned enemy slot, have an approximately 50% chance to shoot down enemy planes. The number of planes shot down is given by the equations below:

Read the damn wiki already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181447
I wouldn't say the Fall E-5 is harder than Spring E-5, but the fact that you need to stick in it 6-8 hours straight makes it pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181447
Last year fall event, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181448
I agree. The losers who said the Spring Event was hard obviously started after the Fall Event. Those timer were hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181447
Fall event was horrible. So horrible, there are many comics depicting the horror of it. It is also the event with the best BGM: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22173776

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181438
>true hell
It is a joke.
It isnt even fit to to be mentioned alongside E4 Henderson-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181438
Ships were sunk in both events. The ones sunk in the Spring were due to a lack of patience. The ones sunk in the Fall were due to a lack of hope.

Imagine you were not sure that the last three hours you spent would amount to anything because the boss could regen in a few hours. Then imagine you were not sure that the last six hours you spent would amount to anything because the boss could regen in a few hours. Twelve hours later, you were not sure if you were going to finish the boss off or just squandered your only shot at finishing the event since the boss would regen overnight. It was a bleak time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181469
Damn, that is utterly intense.

Sometimes, I really wish that I started earlier. But when I first heard about the game, I thought "Oh, I wouldn't want to steal a spot from a native player!" since I heard you needed a lotto to get in.

Oh well, they'll probably be a couple more huge events before the game dies(If it ever does). We'll all anguish in hell of timer countdown random chance simulator: moe shipgirls edition.

Pity resources are so hard to come by. Even if you're scripting to farm expeditions 24/7, a couple days isn't nearly enough to even get to world 3 for an inexperienced kuso teitoku.

Hopefully Midway has some awesome music too. I like how they put a lot of focus on the BGM; it completely sets the atmosphere and the intensity for an otherwise grindy browser game.

Would be fun if they made it that ships could sink at any time, not just at red for the final stage of the event map; then not tell anyone about the new mechanic. I can already imagine the waterfall of tears

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181485
Wouldn't you just have to never leave your computer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181497
>ships could sink at any time
That's just mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181497
>Would be fun if they made it that ships could sink at any time
That's just plain retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181501
Can you imagine the people with all the hotels? Or with ship waifus they leveled to 150 or so.
Then suddenly when grinding the event, a crit or two and you start hearing her sinking lines. It'll be beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181438
>>12181468
I wasn't here for Fall E4, but Spring E5 was easy for me, and that's even before comparing to the many, many tales of hell I've heard about Fall E4.

Any anon here who went through Fall E4 and thought it was easy?

>>12181469
Does a higher difficulty make the BGM better?

>>12181485
This anon put it best.

>>12181497
Still many more battles in the Pacific alone to go, most notably Leyte Gulf.

>Would be fun if they made it that ships could sink at any time, not just at red for the final stage of the event map; then not tell anyone about the new mechanic. I can already imagine the waterfall of tears
Please. No.

>>12181498
Much harder than it sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181485
>the boss could regen in a few hours
Regen was bad but the regen rate was not that fast. A full gauge can be regenerated after a night sleep (7-8 hours) if I remember correctly. One would not consider it as a few hours but it does prevent players from sleeping, that's hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181506
That's the most retard way to piss off your playerbase for no fucking reason, aside from being a dick just for a sake of being a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181505
Would actually kinda make sense if they wanted to make it as devastating as it was historically.

On the other hand, I don't think any reward would convince me to participate in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181498
>Wouldn't you just have to never leave your computer?
Yes, but it's depressing when after twenty consecutive sortie, you have not cleared the boss. I remember finishing the thirty-sortie weekly within a day because of sparkling run + E4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181509
>Any anon here who went through Fall E4 and thought it was easy?
There were a few players who did by using damecon. There were quite a number that uses suicidal fleet to deplete the boss gauge before moving in their main fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181509
>Any anon here who went through Fall E4 and thought it was easy?

I used sacrificial ships and cleared it with less than 10k resources used. It did take 7 hours of non-stop sortieing though, that was pretty exhausting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181498
That's a big part of the issue, but another problem is that you have to clear the map in one go. If you run out of resources or realize you don't have the right ships or equipment, you're shit out of luck. There is no second chance. You had two whole weeks to clear Spring's E-5 at your leisure. If you spent more than a day on a map in Ironbottom all your work would be undone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181509
>Does a higher difficulty make the BGM better?
Apparently not but I guess that's where they start to get a fetish for flutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181524
>7 hours
Well damn, that's 1 hour less than the time I used to clear Spring E5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181540
I had a feeling it was actually faster than the normal method, because you didn't need to stop the sortie even if someone was going to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181515
PvP matches in Kantai are like real life Midway already, if you're the American.

Your enemy sets up a fleet and you know a rough estimate of what fleet they're running, levels, ect and you field a counter to that or ya' know, take advantage of the fact that someone thought it was a good idea to split his fleet into 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181546
Potentially. Suicidal fleet works for Fall E4 because low level DD/CL/CA is overpowered as hell so it doesn't really matter. However, if you take too much losses along the way, getting to the boss node isn't going to help. At least you wouldn't run out of ships.

There are some that runs hybrid suicidal fleet with their main fleet along with cannon fodder to act as meatshields.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181562
Uh, you pretty much needed to run 'hybrid suicidal' fleets, as I did in >>12181524. The level 1 decoys weren't going to do jack to the boss even if they all survived because you had to stick a sanshiki up her anus to kill her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181572
Oh, I was under the impression people were running completely disposable girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181575
No, but there were people that managed kills with 2 Kongous and 4 level 1 DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181575
You are a terrible T. I pride myself on not sinking the ships I ended up scrapping anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181583
You didn't have to kill the boss. That was the genius of the plan... because of the chip damage mechanic it was fine even if the boss escaped with heavy damage, the more important thing was actually getting your Kongous past the gauntlet of night battle nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181591
Yea, but there were people that never even switched to a real fleet for the last kill. You needed a stupid amount of luck for both BB to hit the boss, but it was possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181596
I hated that shit, even when I got there with a normal fleet I still didn't kill her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181596
I did kill the boss twice with the suicide fleet out of the nine times I reached the boss, yeah. That was rather funny.

[Anonymous No.]

So, after upgrading to W 8.1 I've been having random dc's using flash projector and digging around I found it might be some IE's 11 compatibility issues with (old) flash content on some sites, does anyone have this same issue?

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I keep getting Urakaze instead of Taigei? Is this the "desire sensor"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181628

That happened to me, so I switched to 5-2.

[Anonymous No.]

Crafted an anti-torpedo bulge while doing my daily crafting for radar. What the fuck is this garbage. Get out of my crafting pool, you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181631
5-2 spits out Akigumo and Kongous and costs me a million bauxite so I'll stick with Ri's Roulette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181632
How much fuel did you use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181644
I used 10/10/300/250.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181648
Shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181644
Why would you ever add fuel in a radar recipe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181632
I sure love even lower radar chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181650
Turbine/radar hybrid recipe, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181626
Install Gentoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181650
It's just that the first guy to get the bulge on futaba used 30, so I'd hoped it would be the minimum requirement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181657
you just need steel to be cursed with the bulge, people have been getting them with 120 steel and nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181655

I want to use flash projector + logbook, I tried ubuntu but I had some problems with flash projector, like graphics not displaying or just disappearing and reappearing.

I guess I'll need to use a VM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181648
Thank Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Would you say 2-5 is more or less bucket intensive than 5-2 if you're using the southern route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181664
why not just find an alternative

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181672
Yes. Less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181676

Well, using a VM is an alternative, also using a browser instead of flash projector. I'm not using KCT and you can only use KCV on windows.

[Anonymous No.]

The all 30 Yayoi is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181688
Yeah, it said so in the tweets when she came out

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181672
5-2 G-node is brutal. Much higher rate of going red.
Of course, I only run a single BB so it might not apply to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181692
I'm running Nagato, Mogami, Kitakami, Ooi, Kaga, and Shoukaku. I average three to four buckets on a successful run. It's pretty brutal.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any requirement for 3-2 besides the all DD fleet? I can't reach the boss, I keep getting sent to the maelstorm then to the steel node. Or is it just the RNG screwing around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181702
Just RNG, keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181702
You should be more worried about getting furniture coins instead of boss node. It's also purely RNG>

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know when they release the BGM?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181758
The moment you hear the BGM you can easily take it from cache of whatever you use to play kancolle. Looping it is also a cakewalk. What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12180991
Expeditions 2/4/13. All day. Every day. Sometimes I manage to get about 40 buckets per day while doing quests.

[Anonymous No.]

uwahhh

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181628
At least you can farm Urakaze's guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181815
they're getting fixed, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181802
Yeah, what horrible proportions their bodies have. Yadokari's art grows worse every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181815
They fixed them this patch. All the resources I wasted farming 2 sets of them could've been put to farm whale. Well whatever, white whale is holy grail right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181826
What did they 'fix'?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181826
>>12181818
Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181828
They shouldn't be fixed yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181818

Still, they're good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181826
ASW double attack is useless anyway, but I think Urakaze gun is still better than normal DD gun, and worth keeping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181839
The point is that you can attack subs at night and actually do something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181839
>ASW double attack
Oh, THAT.

Urakaze's guns + what were needed, again? Just double attack setup? No ASW equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181846
If it's a day-night battle, you can never hurt a sub, and if it is a night battle node, you can kick the sub's ass without the Urakaze gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181833
I'm too lazy to record 5-3 slow node, you're free to disbelieve.
>>12181839
Isuzu could one-shot gold sub with just 2 those guns and ranking radar. If devs put more "FUCK YOU" yasen subs they might have proved themselves invaluable in passing those nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181853
Last patchnotes said the bug wasn't fixed yet, if they did they either patched it in between or I and others misunderstood the patchnotes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181858
Maybe they just didn't mentioned that. Not the first time they stealthpatched something.

[Anonymous No.]

In this scenario: You are a given new kancolle dmm account and you must beat 5-5 within two weeks. You have all 24 hours of the day free to use to do nothing but play kancolle.

If you fail, a honey badger will tear your genitals off and you will bleed to death. *The honey badger is not anthropomorphized or cute.

Would you succeed in protecting your genitals? How would you succeed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181861
Hate lots of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181861
I would take it easy and do the usual daily routine, and kill myself laughing 5 minutes to badger's intro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181861
Well, not that I need them anyway. I'll just dothe usual thing - ignore 5-5.
I hope I'll be able to stop the hemorrhage.

[Anonymous No.]

Oyodo, you're late again. Looks like this week will be a unlucky one.

[Anonymous No.]

I know you're here mate. Come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181992
>!!
More like wikifag

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182030
>wikifag
The worst. I like when I mouse over the user images and they're all titled "Taigei-chan"

[Anonymous No.]

When plain loss from enemy AA is calculated (so AA only, as there's no enemy carrier) is it percentage based or absolute number? So will I use less bauxite if I refuel every other run on 3-2 fatigue farming, or will it be the same?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182111
Do some test runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182113
I'll will if no one knows it. I know that planes shot down by our ships can be formulated, but I'm not sure about the abyss girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182111
I think it's a pure number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182111
Every so often when I get the 5 ship formation I don't spend any bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

If I use 21/30/60/100 for planes, will that catch the fighter/bomber plane and leave out saiun?

I crafted all my holo planes before the fighter/bomber was added to the pool and have zero of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182184
Fuel is always 20 and why are you adding in steel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182184
Saiun needs 110 baux. Though 10/30/10/30 or 10/30/10/31 can also yield that multirole plane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182195
>>12182198
Oh yeah, steel is 10.
I remembered the recipe wrong, my bad.

I'll do 100 baux because im interested in getting more reppu/R-Kai and 12As but thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182184
Got all my 62s through trying to Reppu through 20/20/10/90.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182200
Did three tries of that recipe and got the two 62's I wanted, the other one was just some seaplane. I really love this "miracle" recipe.

Now if only I had this same luck when doing LSC or getting the ships I want from drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181522
Damecon was all but necessary if you wanted to keep your ships. No one really knew whether orange could sink at the time, so you had to strap on your repair teams, cross your fingers and hope for the best.

The event resource bill was overall quite low, though. The average admiral could get through with 25k resources and 150 buckets on Fall E4, while the threshold for absolute shit luck was around 50k. That map tested your patience rather than your resource hoard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182249
There
Is
No
Threshold

[Anonymous No.]

What's the Iona miracle LSC recipe again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182321
Those recipes aren't miracles. That's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182321
All bet on Iona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182329
Stop trying to fool them fake.

[Anonymous No.]

They add the quest girl as an obtainable ship. What does she do?

They add Mamiya as an obtainable ship.
What does she do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182369
Akashi repairs scratch damage.

Mamiya makes fatigue recover faster.

Having quest musume in your fleet increases quest rewards by 15%

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182369
Oyodo is just a really strong light cruiser. Mamiya does the same thing as Akashi but with sparkling instead of repairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182369
Do people even buy mamiya from the cash shop?
They should rework that or give it away for free.
There's no point in buying that when you can just wait 10-30 minutes for fatigue to fully recover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182369
Oyodo will increase your quest marker to 8
Mamiya will double your fatigue recovery rate if she's fleet flagship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182249
>No one really knew whether orange could sink at the time
Many admiral already sure that ship couldn't sink from 中破 given by the fact that flagship can continue sortie from 中破 and there's only weak evidence to support 'sink from 中破' theory.

And Fall E4 is the final proving ground for that theory.

>>12182374
Yes, they should rework that. Fatigue recovery should take 2 hours, else no one will buy mamiya.
/s

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182401
They should just change the way how you use Mamiya. If Mamiya can be used for resupply in the middle of event map, you would actually want faster recovery rate to encourage people to get back into the action and use mamiya for instant sparkle and resupply during say E5 runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182445
Why do you guys want some more P2W elements?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182452
We got so many mamiyas, but we don't know when we would ever need to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182462
>We got so many mamiyas
I don't know about you but I only have seven. But I agree that I'm still keeping them without knowing if I'll ever use them.

[Anonymous No.]

30 hour expedition ends and I didn't have the fucking quest activated due to clearing weeklies. Fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182462
Speak for yourself. I spent every Mamiya right the moment I got her to sparkle expeditions. There is no point in hoarding something if you're not going to use it.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what did moot fuck up this time?

[Anonymous No.]

I felt so terribly empty these past few hours that I fapped to 3DPD. So how is everybody's fleet?

[Anonymous No.]

How do I S rank this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>約70年前の今月六月に行われた「ミッドウェー海戦」。敵艦載機の痛撃を受け、南雲機動部隊の空母は壊滅。残された水上艦隊戦力は「夜戦」を企図しますが、中止命令を受け撤退しました。次回メンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、軽巡洋艦1隻のさらなる改装(改造)が実装される予定です。
So, which CL ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182469
>Not scheduling your long expeditions so it won't clash with the weeklies when it ends
Yeah, fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

ded thread

ded game

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182481
>>12182462
I use them to reward my fleet whenever they cleared something difficult like event maps and what not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182520
[Ship you want lo level]
[CV you want to level]
Yamato-class
A random BB
A random BB
A random ASW ship

Easy S-rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182520
2BB, 2CL, 2CLT. Diamond formation / double line. Line ahead if you're feeling lucky and night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182522

Sounds like Nagara.
She was made flagship after picking up Nagumo from the burning Akagi. After which Nagumo considered pursuing the Americans at night in hopes of evening the odds, but gave up on that idea after learning the event of Hiryuu's sinking on top of the American fleet had already begun retreating which meant they may not be able to close the gap between them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182522
Both Sendai and Nagara retreated from Midway, so it could be either of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182532
I only got A and 9 hp left for Hotel, fuck. Should've brought Yamato or Nagato with me and just one CLT instead of two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182542

Oh shit, my Nagara is level 11, I should level her a little.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been out for quite a while, do I have to take any measure to avoid getting the hammer or did that commie thing got fixed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182539
If that is true I want devs to stop bullying Sendai and Haruna

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182539
>>12182542
So either more Bob or more KuroKuro.
I won't mind KuroKuro unless he pulled another blunder like that RJ Kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182545
I don't even have her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182548
Just use KCV or logbook, it's pretty safe. If you're really paranoid, API + browser is good enough.

[Anonymous No.]

dead thread
dead game

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182720
Midway is coming soon so this thread will be revived again. Who knows, next update will get us some new maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182722
Why would there be new maps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182733
Why not? We still have 3-5 and 4-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182739
Nothing announced so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182739
They might throw 6-1 before next EOs though.

[Anonymous No.]

If it's Nagara, I'm going to pull my hair out. It's like they're cherry picking the ships I don't have leveled. Well, at least Haruna is daijoubu at lvl95

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182777
I doubt many people even keep Nagara in their fleet at all.
And for me she is bloody rare for a silver CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182777
You know they're just throwing darts at a chart of girls at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182781
I wonder what gods should I pray for girls I like to get second remodels if you're right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182782
The same ones spin your compass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182785
Pointy hat fairy is my ally, I don't need to pray for compass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182789
There is only 1/4 chance that your ally would show up to help you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182798
That's still 2^30 times higher then girls I like to get second remodels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182781
This game is RNG heavy, after all. No surprises if what gets updated is also determined by RNG.

>>12182789
No wonder the pointy hat fairy was the last to be tortured in pic related.

Speaking of which, I believe the compass fairies have names?

>>12182803
Actually, just 2^5 times higher at most. Game doesn't have 2^28 girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182812
> Actually, just 2^5 times higher at most. Game doesn't have 2^28 girls.
Given their popularity on pixiv and their battle record it's that much unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182823
We're going by the assumption in here >>12182781, so their popularity and battle record wouldn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182812
>>12182823
>2^28
Fuck, should be 2^32. My mistake, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182777
Gotta keep those players on their toes after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182827
Ah, pardon my stupidity. What god should I pray, I still don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

So how is your dragon leveling going? 4 more levels here, I'm starting to get sick of 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182836
You're trying to find the god of RNG. Pick a random one.

[Anonymous No.]

What formation do you guys usually use on 5-5 preboss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182863
Would you believe me if I told you 5-4 is much better to grind at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182863
>not grinding the shitty dragons at 5-2 for taigei

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182869
Not in my special case, as I decided to grind my other CVs (Soryuu and Shoukaku as well, and 2nd remodel for RJ which is done by now and more level for Taihou does not hurt) plus I'm doing fatigue farming which is kinda impossible on 5-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182863
>>12182869
I use 3-2 and 5-4 and it's pretty effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182865
Found it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182869
Can you train 2CV 1 CVL at the same time there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182883
Why not? you need 2CV/L to go north anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182889
Don't you risk going south if you have more than 2 carriers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182892
>正規or装甲or軽空母の合計が2隻以上でA固定
Wha?

[Anonymous No.]

what fleet comp is recommended for clearing 4-3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182883
You need one CAV to be the barrel mule and carry all 4 barrels.
You need 2 CV / CVL so the compass spins in your favour every time.
That leaves you with 3 other ships you can bring along.
2 of them will be your main attackers, I usually have 2 battleships for this purpose, Ise class
You can place your training target at the flag.

Unless your ships really suck hard, you usually have a 100% chance of going to the boss. Clears Operation A-go at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182892
>Equipping 3 Drum Canisters and having no more than 1 CV will take you to node C.
I'm not sure where you got that from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182892
That's old news. Either the devs changed it or the players were mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182878
How do you even gain fatigue reliably outside of 1-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182912
I think you misunderstood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182913
I need to train a whole host of other ships so I don't do that, but is it really all that different? At the most you just need to sacrifice two slots for Reppus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182922
The difference is that you have pretty much 0 downtime, because you don't care about fatigue building up, as it does not affect CV opener. But if you can't kill shit in the opening airstrike (and the opener of CLT) you might find yourself in some deep shit, unless you're talking about only the first node of 5-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182932
5-4-A has mostly trash mobs. The only enemies of note are the Nu elite and the Ri flag. Of course, they're mostly all flags as well but even with 2 CVLs the opener usually kills a good bunch of them.

[Anonymous No.]

what are the possibilities of getting banned if you refresh when you go to a node yoou don't want t go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182963
There are stories about people getting banned for it, but none is confirmed. But it's a faggot thing to do anyway. Just man the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182968

But.. but.. I just want to get hiryuu on 4-1 but those Ta and Ru Class would make my poor ships go to red without purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182939
Oh boy, I forgot that node can have a FS CVL. -600 bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182963
I do it all the time. If they were a bannable offense I would have been banned since I started doing it November last year.

Devs know people will shut off the game when they reach a worthless point, that's why they stopped doing it when they made the Winter and Spring event maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182974
>not subslaving at 2-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182976
Isn't that what I said? There's a Nu elite and you have to sacrifice 2 slots for Reppus to ensure air supremacy but it's still a ton more XP overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182979
*stopped doing it = stopped putting in dead end nodes that need a battle.

Instead dead end nodes are just empty or give you a small present.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182981
Yeah, I fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182963
Negligible, as long as you are using API link to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182976
But if you have enough fighter power to get air supremacy, wouldn't the number of planes you lose be the same no matter how high the enemy fighter power is? If you have, say, 300 fighter power, why would it matter whether your opponent has 10 or 100 fighter power?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182980

Fuck 2-3 I've spent 5000 fuel (not counting the fuel the map gives you) on that map with a normal fleet to ensure I allways get S rank when I get to the boss node and I've gotten 2 Murakumos and 2 I-168 but still no Hiryuu. My TTK level is already lvl 79. I', even going to hell for Hiryuu but she still hasn't shown. Fuck my live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182989
Just go for Taiho/Maru boats, you're bound to get Hiryuu sooner or later
> My TTK level is already lvl 79.
If you don't have decent fleet it was amazingly stupid idea to farm for Hiryuu now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182989

I meant Makigumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182993

I started with Lvl 74 this shit. I wouldn't have dreamed that 2 days of continous sortieing with only 5-6 hours of sleep would leave me with nothing.

I dunn If I have a decent fleet or not. What I knw is that I have at least 8 girls of each class fully modernized and that my main 4 BB 2 CV is lvl 50-60

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182987
He didn't bring fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182989
You can almost always S-rank the 2-3 boss with a fleet of 4 remodeled submarines.

Also, from my many months of subslaving that map I can count the number of Hiryuus I've gotten there on one hand. 5000 fuel doesn't sound like that many sorties if you're operating a standard fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182989
Why the fuck are you trying to farm for Hiryuu in 2-3? Map 2-3 has one of the biggest drop pools of common, uncommon and rare ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182999
You're retarded. The fuck are you running a normal fleet on 2-3 for? Run 2-3 with 4 subs for your dailies, S-rank is easy with night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12182989
I spent 3 months doing nothing all day but farm 2-3 with subs for Hiryuu and I didn't get her. You're way too naive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183000
Wait, why would anyone not bring fighters if they know they're going to meet enemy CV(L)s? Do they want to risk the other enemies there doing double attacks on their asses?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183006
see >>12182976

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183006
He forgot.

... how did you not see this when you replied to the very post where he said he forgot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183003

I have 4 subs

- I-168 Kai lvl 77 fully modernized
- I-8 Kai lvl 72 fully modernized
- I-58 lvl 36 fully modernized
- I-19 lvl 33 fully modernized

I only get S rank like halve of the times. The whole idea of bringing a normal fleet was to make every time I got to the boss count.

>>12183002

Then where should I look for a Hiryuu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183000
clear quads status:

[X]checked
[ ]not checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183001
>5000 fuel doesn't sound like that many sorties if you're operating a standard fleet.

I wwas a light fleet of only 1 BB, 2CA, 1 CLT, 1 SS and 1 CV.

Also, I didn't count the resources I earned from the daylies, which were almost every one of the inncluding some weeklies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183012
Build something in LSC, fail, get Hiryuu.

Alternatively, instead of subslaving, grind the higher maps which have a smaller drop pool and thus higher chance of getting Hiryuu.

I mean, I have scrapped at least 5 Hiryuu from grinding 5-4 now. And a box full of Kagas, and a handful of Zuihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183014
those are trips you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183018

I haven't started world 5 yet

inb4 entering lvl 80 soon

Yeah, I know I'm crazy

Also, I don't have the resources right now to start LSCing like crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183021
>haven't started world 5
What the fuck are you doing? Unlock maps as fast as you can. What's rare at stage 2 is scrap material at stage 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183017
>Also, I didn't count the resources I earned from the daylies, which were almost every one of the inncluding some weeklies.

Shit, stop wasting time and resources 'farming' for Hiryuu on a shit map.

I've only seen four Hiryuus in the two months of subslaving dailies where I bothered to get S-ranks for Makigumos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183009
>>12183010
From the post, either he lost 600 bauxite sortieing there because he forgot about that FS CVL, or he hadn't sortied there and it's just that he merely forgot what enemies you meet there.

It's true that if he didn't bring fighters, it would imply the former, but how he phrased it implied the latter, which was why I was confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183026
>>12183025

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183020
my humblest apologies, i must have looked quite the newfig :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183027
He said he forgot about the CVL and used 600 bauxite which obviously implies he didn't bring any fighters whatsoever. 1 Reppu on a good slot already grants air superiority over a Nu elite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183044
Well, it's his phrasing then.

I can think of a reason why he forgot, though; probably because he mixed it up with 5-4-F.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183056
We were talking about fatigue farming. 3-2 doesn't have any enemy fighters so I'm pretty sure he just did his routine but switched maps and forgot to change his loadout.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth continuing 4-3 if I got the south node? Because It'll exactly take 5 day battles to get to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

Large equipment construction when? I need to burn some baux on 5 star planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183058
I know that. 5-4-F used to be a popular spot for fatigue farming before they patched it, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183060
If you went to K, go back home and fix your fleet composition.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh come on.

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do you even look for Taigei in 2-5 without using a million buckets? Fuck this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183079
You don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183063
I'm using 2 BB 2 CA 1 CL 1 DD, which usually gets me to the preboss (but someone inevitably goes red from Wo shelling)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183082
No you didn't. You won't go to K if you actually used 2 CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183082
You have a CAV in your fleet. Stop using it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183084
>>12183086
Sorry I meant 2 CV (Zuikaku +Akagi)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183089
Oh, you're one of those guys who just want to be compass trolled into oblivion. Sorry, ignore what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183069

(Not) Eternal suffering awaits you

[Anonymous No.]

>>12181365
I got shit on. Fuck 2-4.

It really doesn't seem possible with just 1 BB+1 CV+1 CVL+1 CA+1 CLT+1 CL. Am I just too low level(20-30 each ship), or do I need more CA/BBs to not get shit on? I'm using double attack set-up and it procs most of the time, but I still don't seem to do much damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183121
All remodelled and fully modernised, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183125
All remodelled, but I can't fully modernize them yet. I've modernized torpedo+armor to max and some anti-air/firepower, but that's all I can find.

Also,my BB is actually a BBV, miswrote that. Using daytime double attack set up w/ seaplane on BBV+CL+CA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183131
Max your firepower; it'll do you good. Max AA is good to have, but it isn't as important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183131
Work on that firepower, you'll need it. AA isn't that important for 2-4.
And you might want to replace that CL for something heavier/2nd CLT

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183134
>>12183132
I see,firepower(More common in World 2 ships since they give better modernization stats overall?) is rather difficult to find though. I guess it would be wise to replace Kiso for now since she doesn't become a CLT until level 65 or so.

2 CA+CV+CVL+CLT+BBV might work out. Then prioritizing BBV firepower then 2 CA before retrying.

Thanks ya'll

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183153
Firepower comes from CA and especially from BB, as well as some smaller ships.
Farm 2-2 boss for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183153
You will be drowing in firepower fodder after world 2. It's harder to get DDs and CLs then to get CAs or better. I even started to use CAs as torpedo fodder since all my shipgirls, even expedition fleets and Lv.1 that wait leveling have max firepower/armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183163
You could also scrap those CA for a bit of resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183168
I find scrapping BBs more worth it than scrapping CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

Even when you recall expedition you still get exp as per normal failure. Wasn't there pure exp expedition which gave 400something exp? Far from the most efficient way to grind ships, but it might be an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183177
Wait, you get exp if yu fail an expedition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183177
I think you get admiral exp, but not shipgirl exp. I'm not too sure about this, though.I'm still new to all this.
>>12183172
I think I shed a tear when I saw the words "scrapping" and "BB" together. I hope world 3 is some type of heaven where you can finally start getting BB drops.
>>12183163
>>12183159
Alright thanks, will do. Time for grinding and using up buckets

[Anonymous No.]

Is Hiryuu kai 2 the 4th sakura-holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183177
You get less than half of the exp if you fail.
Sounds like a great way of burning 6~8 bars of resource per ship in exchange for less than 200 points of exp and accumulate a ton of failed expeditions.
And it's still less efficient than just going out to grind on a low level map.
It's a fascinating idea, but not a well thought-out one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183185
Even in world 2, I keep getting Kongou-class, Fusou-class and the occasional Ise-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183183
HQ does, but not the ships. So that's a no-go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183188
Pretty lucky. I've been spamming 2-2 for a long time; enough to do the 50 transport ship quest weekly in a day or two or so.(With like a 30% chance to not boss, that's a lot of runs).

I've seen one Fusou class which I'm using right now, and never any Ise or Kongou..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183185
If you get lucky you can get BB drops in World 2, it's pretty rare of course but possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183194
Well, you need to go for the boss-nodes in world2 to get BBs. Transporter-nodes don't have good drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183199
Oh, yeah. I go to the boss node the majority of the time. I think if you have a CV or BB in your fleet, you reach the boss node 70% of the time hence 30% chance to not boss. I think I just worded it in a very poor way.

I think it's even more than 70%, but I'm too lazy to download the program that logs everything.

[Anonymous No.]

A plane floating in the middle of the room is pretty interesting when you have Hiryuu as your secretary

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183317
it's gonna rek you m8.

[Anonymous No.]

I also have 800 buckets...

No Nagato, Yamato nor Taihou.

I plan to start stockpiling now in case midway is in July... how screwed am I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183331
Not at all, I got 70k resources in a month without sparkling any expedition before last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183331
If you start stockpiling now? Not at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183331
Now is a good start. Ignore Moby Dick, ignore LSC, just hoard those resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183338
>>12183339
>>12183340
Thanks for the advice.
But I think I'll try for the Whale for the torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183324
It looks pretty hostile indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183345
Well, good luck with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183345
Suit yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183349
That plane is annoying, can't help but to focus on it instead of the room itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183357
The bowstring too

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183349
I don't like that huge headband.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183357
>>12183364
That's why I like it. Somehow it feels more dynamic than out usual setup

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183369
I don't know much about archery but I'm pretty sure that the string shouldn't be at the back of your hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183368
Why? It shows her determination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183376
>but I'm pretty sure that the string shouldn't be at the back of your hand.

I'm pretty sure it is suppose to given what she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183376
That's how it's supposed to be, the bow spins after the arrow is loosed.

The problem is the perspective which makes the string look like its behind from the uper limb but in front in the lower limb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183377
Too big and distracting for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183388

I think since the string is on the edge of the bow it makes it look like a perspective problem.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get her smile back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183415
Win at Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183415
By giving her back her headband.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183415
Scream YU WA SHOK

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183415
Marry her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183415
Marry her, level her to 150, use all the other girls in your fleet to modernize her,equip her with the best gear, then send her on 1-1 sorties 24/7 solo for the next year and try to break the 100 morale cap.

Come back and ask again if it doesn't work

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183427
That doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183435
Well then, follow >>12183429.

[Anonymous No.]

How many TTKs still have their starter and at a level higher than 50?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483

I level up my Inazuma from time to time, she's 61 right now, maybe after the next event I'll get her to 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
She's 67 thanks to expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
She's at 62 now, but so are the other expedition DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
Everyone right?
Mine is 91.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
My Samidare is level 62 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
Level 74 Samidare owner reporting in

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
Mine hit level 50, but I haven't used her for anything but expeditions since I cleared world 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
My Murakumo is lvl 47. Then again, I started month and half ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
Murakumo, 91 here.
>>12183492
>Everyone
Some take pride in scrapping their starters to because they are shitty DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
Level 76 Fubuki

Just watch when she gets something beyond Kai Ni because of her main character status. Ya'll be regrettin not choosing the best starter girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183501
Those are just shitty trolls pretending. I'm sure they still have them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183503
But why would Kadokawa choose to only give kai ni status to the least picked starter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183503
>main character status
She's only the main character for the upcoming anime. She could lose her status for the Vita game or the second anime season.
>>12183508
She's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183508
> the least picked starter?
Sazanami is not Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

Best flagship for reppu?
Kaga seems to be the only one that gives me any.
Akagi never wants to be a team player.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I could downgrade backgrounds. Gold one is ugly as sin, metal is the best one.
>>12183517
I got all my Reppus from Akagi. Maybe you neglected her or treated her bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183517
If you don't have Taihou, Kaga is your best choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183505
Nope, that's what I did and I don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183520
I always treat Akagi like a princess.
Never pushed her to fight while red, always let her fatigue regen to at least 30, and never let her skip a resupply meal.

She just doesn't like helping me with crafting for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183525
Were all your first 51 ships DDs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183530
Yeah, initially I didn't know what to do so I just grinded 1-1 for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
I still have my first 5 ships with me.
>>12183517
How about Hiryuu Kai 2? My first craft with her yesterday was a Reppu. Today first 2 crafts were 2 Shiden Kai 2.
I have been using Zuikaku for a couple of months. She gave me bunch of red holo planes. Currently switching to Hiryuu to test it out a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183530
Stop trying to understand Kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183540
u wanna fight m8?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183542
No, I wouldn't want to catch your kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183538
My Hiryuu's a couple levels short for kai ni, otherwise I'd try that. Don't have the crane sisters still, so that's a no go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183538
Still have my first 8 but I don't give them any love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183547
It's too late for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183554
But I still have my starter and never sank a ship even with damecon.
That's not kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Isuzu kai2 the only kai2 that's gold rarity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183563
It was the first one, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183563
It's a sign for Kai3, teikoku

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183569
Her fuel tanks will grow even more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183483
70. I was hoping to get her to 99 by August. And marry her on my first year anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

i don't remember who my starter

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183591
>>>/wikia/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183591
Fire up KCV or logbook and look for id 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183569
Isuzu Kai3 will be able to equip 4 slots and she'll start with 4 pieces of rare top-tier equipment that you can only get from her. Also, she'll be +20 to luck as modernization material.
She will need to be level 90 to hit Kai 3.

Isuzu farms 2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183597
kek
>>12183607
i only using flash projector

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183616
>She will need to be level 90 to hit Kai 3.
>Not 125.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183621
Oh god... you have to marry each one before using them as modernization material...

DO YOU HAVE THE DETERMINATION? And copious amounts of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183633
>DO YOU HAVE THE DETERMINATION?
I have only ever taken care of one Isuzu so no I don't.
But I'm sure some will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183636
Still better to farm Maruyus

[Anonymous No.]

She does look cute when she smiles like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183667
Damn, I really like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183667
Much better

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183667
>>12183677
>>12183678
What? Where did her pride go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183684
>pride
She's still proud.
I would say she's just lost a touch of dignity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183667
Thirsty slut. Look at that lewd smile
You know exactly what she wants. Look at how short that skirt is; her female pheromones are practically leaking.

worst girl 0/10 unpure would not waifu

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183667
Is her headband on fire because she burned to death?

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty new player here. I was doing a PVP battle and the enemies Kongou and Hiei both did a double attack during the day. What is that from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183759
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat#.C2.A0Artillery_Spotting_.28Post-Cap_Modifier.29
Could help you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183759
Read the wiki about combat mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183759
Read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183763
>>12183764
>>12183765
>>12183759
Quality posts are what keeps /jp/ alive. Sure glad we have met the post quota for the next two hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183712

Fuck you, I will not tolerate this for my first CV.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we even know how/if rarity affects drop chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183766
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183768
I doubt card rarity has anything to do with droprate. 2-5 has given me something like seven Hieis and zero Taigeis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183766
Well tough shit, we're not your goddamn maid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183768
It probably does. But I'm not sure because Kongou class have the tendency of dropping very often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183770
makes sense, but how does drop rate even work then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183776
Patience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183770
Yep, similarly. I still haven't found a single taigei even after 80+ runs of 2-5, but lots of Haruna, Hiei, Ise, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183772
I'm not the guy who asked the question that could have been easily answered by the wiki. If you ignored him, he would have googled "DOUBLE ATTACK DURING DAY KANTAI" or "DAYTIME DOUBLE ATTACK KANTAI" and got his answer.

Spamming "read the wiki" to everybody who asks a question is rather pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183766
Shhh, you can go back to wiki too.
>>12183768
With how RNG and desire sensor works I doubt there is any impact on drop chance from rarity. I got shitload of Kongos, Ises and Nagatos while crafting Yamato and not a single Fuso in 70something crafts. Then again, maybe it was desire sensor at work because I also wanted second copy of Fuso/Yamashiro, to remodel them into BBVs just in case.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess that for S rank chance for gold/silver drop are close to 50/50, we just get lot of Kongou/Ise-class because there's way more silver drops than gold ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183776
I think it's divided into two parts: class, and ships within that class. Since AS is a unique class, the probability of getting Taigei is low on its own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183768
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/26.html
Higher ranks give you higher rarity ships, but I don't believe rarity itself has any effect on drop chance.

Rarity and drop chance are probably determined individually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183783
Why didn't he just google it in the first place in your hypothetical scenario?

The reality is that idiots won't do their own research unless they're told to fuck off and do it themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183795
Shouldn't that mean that it's high? Like you have X% to get any of the Kongous (X/4%) and X% to get Taigei only since you get her when you roll AS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183801
Nobody said that X has to be the same for BB and AS though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183783
Telling people to read the wiki when the seeked information can be found on the wiki is actually helpful advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183803
I still don't understand why would it make her chance low, if she was part of an already existing class you would roll twice then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183786
Desire sensor is some kind of weird ass curse.

You want some motherfucking Fusou class battleships, bitch? Here are ALL the Kongous, Ise, ect.
You farmin' 2-2 for Hamakaze? Here's six thousand Fusou battleships.
You need Kongou battleships to clear 2-4 since you only have 1 Fusou BB? Here ya' go, you can have like six Fusou BB's and get Hamakaze+Yayoi in a row.

OH LOOK, YOU FINALLY GOT THAT SHIMAKAZE AFTER 1000 ATTEMPTS over a month or two. Now you can have 4 more in the next two days!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183814
Because probably chance for BB would be like 20%, and AS chance 2~4% at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183801
It's unlikely that the chance of getting a BB from S-rank is the same as getting an AS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183807
Generally helpful; you only need to tell them once. It's like everyone on here lurks just for a chance to post "READ THE WIKI".
>>12183800
If they're ignored, they'll eventually try to find it themselves. If you're going to be nice, just post the wiki link and tell him what it is.

"Get air superiority, equip seaplane, boom daytime cut-in/double attack chance".

[Anonymous No.]

Well, whatever Taigei's chance to drop is, this search is really sapping my willpower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183807
This.
Although "read the wiki" might occasionally get overused, it often is the best answer for many newbie questions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183830
How much in resources have you burned?
I'm tempted to try for her, but I'd rather be over prepared resource-wise for the next event sans Taigei then have a Taigei and not much resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183819
>OH LOOK, YOU FINALLY GOT THAT SHIMAKAZE AFTER 1000 ATTEMPTS over a month or two. Now you can have 4 more in the next two days!

This, with all my heart. I spect god knows how much attempts to craft her and 2 days after I gave up I got her as a drop in 2-4

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking ri-roulette, I hate you

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking why a third time

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183825
>If you're going to be nice
Being nice to shitposters like like shooting yourself in the foot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183819
Fuck desire sensor. I just want pyon. Never got her from 2-2 despite doing all my dailies there since she was added, never got her from event, now I can't even get her from 2-5 or 5-4. Fuck me and my rotten luck, I'm sick from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183848
Oh man, I sure hope it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183853
I just want my pretty carrier whale already

Nope, another 30 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183848
Watch it give you the second torpedo and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183842
About 40k of fuel and steel, with an additional 200 or so buckets. I could do the smart thing and save, but where's the fun in sitting around watching timers for another month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183847
Take a shot of vodka each time your shipgirls eats a cut-in. This tremendously increased enjoyment from night battles for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183863
How many times did you get drunk in a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183825
Did you think that people who can't even be bothered to google their questions would care about the wiki link if you've already spoonfed them with what they wanted? RTFM is the only proper response to stupid questions.

Perhaps the next OP should include a direct link to the wikia because people are apparently too lazy to look at the wikia's front page and realize that there's an entire section devoted to game mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183863
I don't think I could afford all that alcohol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183863
Actually, I won the roulette this time as Haguro was kind enough to blow up the fucker. After that, all other remaining fuckers dogpiled on one ship, taking KTKM to red by
One
fucking
damage.
Sorry for the blog, but shit can be rage inducing. I don't even know how our japanese overlords can just laugh it off every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183882
Say ヨーシ more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183872
I rarely sortie right now, but I was permanently shitfaced the whole time I was clearing 5-3 and E2 spring event.
>>12183877
Medical ethanol is very cheap. You can buy 10 liter canister for, like, 40 bucks or something where I live. Diluting it with clean water is easy. This will give give you 25 liters of fuel, enough to last at least 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183725
If you look closely, the headband has a similar pattern to a flight deck. Maybe it came from one of her sisters, and she's wearing it in their memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183884
I'm looking forward to pokehamu's midway stream.
Especially when he gets stuck on the E-5 map after 20+ hours of trying to get the final kill.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got Yamato to 60, did it all in pvp and one attempt of 4-3 at the end for lols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183947
How long did that take you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183950
i built her the day after the last event with the resources i saved not doing E-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183947
60 is nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

When can I fucking get Nachi? I need my 4th fleet already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183974
Don't tempt the desire sensor, it's going to be never if you keep wanting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183974
Just craft or do world 2 dailies.
Also this >>12183981.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183953
Sakawa is disappointed

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183953
I did the same and my Yamato is 78 already

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183983
kek
keeping jealous

[Anonymous No.]

Found this on the wiki under Hiryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184041
And?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184045
Every time I encounter retarded shit like this, I kinda feel bad for all the rtfw posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184047
Why is it retarded? Everyone has their own kind of fun, and there is no bad wrong fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184047
You read a comment on the wiki and than skip all the comments responding to him that he is retarded?

Read the wiki doesn't include the comments anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184047
The wiki and its userbase is different.
Also you don't know his circumstances. Maybe he is lacking in resources and preparing for Midway and doesn't want start raising another carrier and he said 50+ meaning he doesn't even have one at lv77 yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184041
Whats wrong with using ships you like
Besides her pre kai2 looks better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184052
So if you saw that post here, you wouldn't have any issues with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184061
Why yeah, I wouldn't have. Who am I to tell other people that they have bad wrong fun, a god? Trying to pass as superior being because you do something different is all kinds of foolish too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184061
The posts that get reactions here are those that utilize more aggressive kind of language.

A "so and so is shit" post would get reactions, but a reasonably phrased comment that merely expresses a different attitude in how to play the game is unlikely to raise anyone's ire expect yours apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

Souryuu's Kai Ni: no longer goofy.

It hurts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184075
War is hell.

[Anonymous No.]

Kancolle attracts the worst kind of gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184084
That sort of shitposting is hardly exclusive to KanColle, son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184084
Joined this month and 1 post? Did you make that troll-account yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184084
So you made this post and reosrted it here for no reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184077
She's gonna lose that smile and all of her fun mannerisms and there's nothing I can do to save it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184087
>>12184084
If you want to see shitposting then just go to /a/ and watch a couple autists spam the threads.

No need to find weird forums

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184090
*reposted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184084
You're probably bored, but if you're going to repost shit, at least pick shit that's somewhat funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184089
>>12184090
>>12184098
Why would I post shit that can damage my credibility or otherwise create a negative impact on my persona?
Think with your brains, dipshits.
Apparently he helped you faggots out with some TL show, and someshit about Nur.
I want to know, who the fuck is Nur?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184101
I love how oddly specific your defensiveness is.
I didn't even think you were the original poster. I was just saying that you should pick better stuff to repost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184117
>I love how oddly specific your defensiveness is
You're a fucking moron. Do you not see the other posts quoted? Do you not see the other two claiming that I posted that myself?
also, how is it a repost. Was it already posted on /jp/?
That post is concerning a thread that was made today.
I love how oddly moronic your post is though. Now tell me, who the fuck is Nur?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184122
You don't know who Nur is?
Do you even play KanColle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184130
>You don't know who Nur is?
Is it the Nu-class? Is it some stupid meme-shit? Cause if it is, then forget it. Not interested in your meme bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184135
Not even meme shit.
Did you just start or something? Of all the things to ask about, why Nur?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184142
I'm assuming it's a player, since I've had every ship sans Bismarck and the hotels, and Shioi.
If not then,
Epic :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184157
If you started this year, I guess you wouldn't know.
You're kind of dick though so I don't feel like explaining it to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184168
That's fine. It doesn't concern me, so it's useless.
:^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184168
Not him but I followed almost every thread (with more or less attention) since August, when I made like a third of them, and I don't remember anything about a Nur... care to elaborate on that ?

[Anonymous No.]

Nur a shit :^D

[Anonymous No.]

>shooting for taihou
>get light aircraft carrier
...
I needed a break from this game anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184233
Isn't that the norm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184233
No, the normal is Soryuu-class.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think my carriers have done jack shit through all three days of whaling. I really hope Midway deals with their accuracy issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184236
No, the norm is Soryuu-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184247
Yeah, tell that to my 20 RJs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184246
You're supposed to give them accuracy boosting equipment. Some of their planes have that like Saiun +2, Ju 87C +1, Type 21 Skilled +2, etc. People tell you to put radars on BBs, and you expect CVs to be any different?

[Anonymous No.]

Time... based luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184246
It's strange. My carriers often get MVP at 5-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184257
Aside from my fighters, everything else they're carrying is accuracy boosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184283
Then maybe you're just unlucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184285
>unlucky

>>12184246
>three days of whaling

Maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184257
You can put 3 radars and Ju87 on 100 sparkled carrier and it will still miss I already tested it out also the only time then you shouldn't use planes on carriers is when you have ~9slot or less because it's more efficient to use yellow gun on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184269
It's about as placebo as clicking directly on the node you want to go to.

[Anonymous No.]

This is fucking bullshit. After finally making it through the night battle node on 2-5 with my Myoukou-class fleet for that quest, the compass sends me to the deadend despite having plenty of LOS.

Although I see now that wikiwiki scratched out that formula that everyone was quoting before, where I easily exceeded the supposed requirement. I guess I'll have to just drop KTKM and toss in another CA and take a higher risk of getting wrecked at first node by a surviving CLT.

[Anonymous No.]

At first I was a bit annoyed that Hiryuu's smile is gone, but the new version is growing on me with every passing moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184296
I sometimes go to the boss and sometimes go the dead with the exact same fleet. Not sure if there's something that can tweak the LOS along the way, like damage or planes shot down, or if there's maybe a certain range where it's not 100%.

I've only ever had that happen when going north, though, probably because it's so easy to load up LOS when going south or through the middle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184296
>that wikiwiki scratched out that formula that everyone was quoting before
偵察機索敵値×2 ＋ 電探索敵値 ＋ √(艦隊の装備込み索敵値合計 - 偵察機索敵値 - 電探索敵値) ≧ 76

You mean this? It's still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184354
The LOS requirement changes for the final clear, but there might be other variability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184236
>>12184247
>>12184250
At least you're getting AA materials. My last 4 Taihou attempts had all been Maruyu.

>>12184309
I'm assuming the really powerful new planes helped a bit.
10% chance, ugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184507
>At least you're getting AA materials. My last 4 Taihou attempts had all been Maruyu.
At least you're getting luck.
After a while all your important ships get fully modernized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184507
Why are you complaining baout 10%? That's pretty high.

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I try to find Taihou if Hiryuu-Kai2 is comparable, if not better than her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526
Because Taihou can attack when moderately damaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526
Taihou wins both in cute and stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526

Why settling down with just one when you can have both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526
Because I'm going to hazard a guess that Midway maps will need more than one carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

When do we get Ryusei or Ryusei Kai with Tomonaga Squad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184516
Spacing mistake. The 10% was supposed to refer to Maruyu's appearance rate.

>>12184514
I've only got 8 pages fully modernized, I'd rather more AA food than more luck. I don't even have anything too interesting to do with Maruyus ever since I fed 5 of them to Mutsu.

I used to want to give them to Nagato for a 3 gun loadout, but then the recon plane update came along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526
To complete the Kantai Collection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184526
Because the game is called Kantai Collection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184545
>>12184546
When do we get a masterball?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184548
Sink 3,000 Re to get one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184548
Midway reward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12183947
My Musashi didn't sortie until 89

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184101
>Why would I post shit that can damage my credibility or otherwise create a negative impact on my persona?
>Posting anonymously
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.]

Is leveling BBs in 3-2 a bad idea? Seems like I'll burn through fuel/ammo

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184575
You bring 1BB along while grinding anywhere and they level up naturally by getting MVP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184555
>>12183947
I sortied my Yamatos in E5 when Yamato's only Lvl1. Makes a difference even at that level...

[Anonymous No.]

>Equip 21 fighter
122 Superiority

>Equip 96 fighter
111 Superiority

>Equip 52 fighter
94 Superiority

Well I'm confused. My KCV is up to date

[Anonymous No.]

What's your resource goal for Midway? How about buckets? Do you have any girls in particular that you plan to rely on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184738
Midway is distant blip on the radar. The whale is a more immediate concern. I can sort out buckets and resource after I capture the great whale. Everything is secondary to the whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184578
it doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184747
I wish I could believe she would drop. I really do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184738
I don't have any. I'll just do as always minus doing LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184738

I want to have at least 100k of each resource, so far only bauxite and steel is there, leveling hotel took a lot of my ammo and fuel.

For buckets I'm sitting above 1.4k, I'm doing ex2 again to get more ammo, so I guess I'll end up with at least 1.8k when Midway comes.

My only CVs below 80 are Akagi (78) and Kaga (77), I'll level them up to 80, as for CVLs RJ is 91 and Zuihou is 85, I might level up Chito/Chiyo.

Taigei is 46, I'm waiting for the rest of the kai nis announced for this month before using my medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184747
>>12184763
Why are you all so obsessed about Moby Dick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184779
She took my leg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184773
>>12184738
No Taigei.
Resource is now at 130k/210k/130k/120k and around 800 buckets. Lacking in CV lvl wise. Hiryuu still not Kai2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184786
>Lacking in CV lvl wise. Hiryuu still not Kai2.
Why you sitting on such a pile of resources then. Finished LSC early?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184794
Yea... Yamato in 12 tries, Taihou in 6, BSM in 4. I've been saving for Midway since end of spring event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184779
Delicious blubber. I need it in my fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184820
Stop. Every single time I see her, I get the urge to try 2-5 some more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184820
I wonder how many of those looking for her now are going to actually be using her in sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

Bingo time, now with a whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184828
Outside of events and whatnot, I like to use cute ships in favor of powerhouses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184828
This game is all about farming for cute girls you don't really need. I use maybe 15 ships for clearing maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I thought the middle was supposed to be free you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184834
>>12184835
>I use maybe 15 ships for clearing maps.
That's pretty normal.
I just meant that you should neglect her after getting your torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184785
That made me laugh more than it should've.

>>12184822
Isn't 5-2 much easier (on your buckets)? Unless you're a poor sod like me who still doesn't have Urakaze despite 2-5ing everyday.

>>12184738
I've already met my goal. And I'll try to maintain this number no matter if I sortie/LSC.
100k all should be a safe number, I've wrapped up the past 3 events under 60k.
I really do wish I have Taihou by the time Midway starts though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I used to do alot better at this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184840
I don't have any CVLs leveled up, unfortunately. It's something I neglected in favor of heavier ships. The only one that ever interested me was Houshou, and mine never really got anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
LSC please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I used to be a lot worse than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Taigei soon, right?
Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Maybe the whale will join me tomorrow. Even Ahab needs to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Why choose the droppable Agano over Noshiro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184839
There will be some people that like her and end up using her. People used Zuiho and RJ before K2 on 5-5 clears.

Also the torpedo is pretty useless since it doesn't work with cut-ins. Best in slot for Maruyu and non-kai subs I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I just want a Yahagi to complete 1-150

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184855
Noshiro was fall event reward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184847
My CVL used to significantly out level my CVs because I used them for all the dailies (this was prior to Iku and Hachi) as opposed to the CVs which I only used for hard maps.
That, plus I really liked Ms.Hyahaa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
S-soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184858
>fall
That's a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184857
>>12184854
>>12184851
>>12184850
>>12184849
>>12184845
Remember when people kept insisting Taigei "must be" easy to get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184838
We've done this so many times but I think I've only seen two cards that understand the concept of the center square being a freebie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184865
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184866
Anyone with a bit of patience should've been able to get Sakawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184865
I told myself that I was going to stop looking a few hours ago. Ha ha ha. Yeah, that didn't work out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184872
Sure, and lot of money to hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184872
Which means she isn't a freebie. Though if we were to to full on freebie mode the center would be Akagi or a starter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184828
I dont ever like to use battleshit outside of event or PVP. I go with the minimum of 1 and PVP forces me to use them since sometimes you need tons of them to beat hotel and musashit.
Worst class containing the kuso class and the kusoest ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184886
>Worst class containing the kuso class and the kusoest ship.
I don't even understand what this means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Where the fuck is Shioi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I'll be laughing when Taigei drops like candy on the event maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184858
Iku, who was a E-1 (3 star map) reward, is on there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184891
I probably used the older shit I found. So delete Iku or Hachi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184897
Iku is droppable now genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184901
Both. Or swap one with Sakawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184904
Meant for >>12184898

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184904
Good point since everyone should have them by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Fuck the whale, I will get her in the event maps. What I want is Musashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184916
Better. Damn German ships, almost got one for once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831

I had to prioritize other stuff over getting Sakawa, worked out in the end, no regrets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831

[Anonymous No.]

What's the prerequisites to unlock whale expedition quest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184951
Finish germans.

[Anonymous No.]

I got a bismarck on my second try after doing 4k/7k/7k/2k/20.

This is my fifth attempt at LSC overall... And I was only doing because I was bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Better than nothing, I guess.

Should we set some bingo standards after this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184958
Thanks.

Have a German for your trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184964
>Level 104
>86/153/100/44, 1476
>fifth attempt at LSC overall
That's some iron will you got there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184974
I know... I don't have any other LSC ship, except Maruyu and Akitsumaru.

I'll just take it easy, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

I got Suzuya 3 times in a row crafting battleships.
Is this normal?
Should I be scared?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184987
At least you didn't get Naka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184987
Normal non-LSC? That's normal.
LSC? Well... it's normal too. You can try to get Mikuma from that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184987
> Is this normal?
Yes.
> Should I be scared?
Get scared when you get Tenryuu,

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Iku never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184991
How common is she from the default LSC recipe? I recently found out I have her card, even though I don't have it, so apparently I both got her and then threw her away without noticing. Feels pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184987
Here's my Bingo. My TTK level is 81. Don't be afraid....for now i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185002
For clarification, I mean Mikuma. Got my Suzuya from last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831

[夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12184987
That's pretty normal, I didn't get her until lvl 90ish. Clearing maps up to 3-1 is easy now with recon planes, and you can also get the BBs you want in 3-2. Try LSC if you're feeling lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185012
That seems to imply you had them but they died.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Babby TTK who started just before the spring event here. Just stated getting into the LSC hell

[夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12185016

You're right, but only a kuso teitoku would ever sink their ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I think the Bismarck should have an extra condition that she must be fully upgraded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185024
>tanikaze
Fucking beginner luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185032

Not him but I got her and Hatsukaze spontaneously during my clearing runs, I didn't think she was rare until I saw a lot of people here trying to get her and then I realized I never saw her drop again during the whole event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Started about 2 weeks before spring. Taking it easy so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184916
Welp, missed this one.

So, why are Nagato-class still there, again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185042
Forgot image.

Not like the number of lines I got changed at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185042
Some people spend 100 levels going without them. I personally got them both at the spring event at 96.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185032
That Tanikaze drained all my luck that I needed 60+ 2-5 boss kills to get my Urakaze. Now I don't know how long I would take to get the whale

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185049
That's like counting in the no Shoukaku club.

I still say we need to set some bingo standards. For example, the ones on the diagonals are are more valuable ships, and the centre is the most valuable space, so the bingo needs to be adjusted accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
About to hit ttk level 80 and my best ships are the Kongous, KTKM/Ooi, Mutsu, Kaga, and Zuikaku all in their 60s. I kind of screwed myself by using 1-5 for kai2-ing Isuzu, Shigure, and Poi, also by spreading out which girls I used too much.
Currently trying to decide whether to horde resources for Midway, spend them on kai2-ing Kongou/Hiei/Kirishima (and leveling my carriers in the process), or try LSC for Yamato, Taihou, and Nagato. I hope to complete at least one map in the upcoming event (assuming the reward is worth it).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185057
98 and still no Zuikaku. Spring was at least nice enough to give me Zuihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185063
Forgot my bingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185064
I know that feeling; I didn't get Zuikaku until level 102 (after spring event, from LSC).

Anyway, I'm compiling up some lists, anyone mind if I post them? Or I'll just keep it as personal reference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Still haven't cleared first page of kantai dex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
How embarrassing.
>>12184838
It is already.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright then, seeing as there're no objections.

Everything listed in the following lists will all be from most important to least important, list-wise (as in who deserves a Bingo spot the most). (May change; please check for any errors)
Bingo square 1: 1 = least important, 3 = most important
2 1 1 1 2
1 2 1 2 1
1 1 3 1 1
1 2 1 2 1
2 1 1 1 2

Bingo square 2:
1 = farthest away from centre, 6 = centre
1 2 3 2 1
2 4 5 4 2
3 5 6 5 3
2 4 5 4 2
1 2 3 2 1
Centre:
Naka Kai 2

Current hot property:
Taigei/Ryuuhou Kai
Hiryuu Kai 2

Perennial mainstays (optional):
Shimakaze
Yukikaze
Hard to get:
Musashi
Ryuuhou Kai
Bismarck Zwei
Bismarck
Yamato
Taihou
Taigei
Hiryuu Kai 2
Hatsukaze
Chikuma Kai 2
Tone Kai 2
Haguro Kai 2
Sakawa
Amatsukaze
Tanikaze
Akashi
Yahagi
Mikuma
Z3 zwei
Z1 zwei
Ryuujou Kai 2
Zuikaku

Semi-hard to get:
Naganami
Yuugumo
Shoukaku
Uzuki
Urakaze
Hamakaze
Akitsu Maru
Noshiro
Maruyu
Nagato
Kumano
Suzuya
Hachi
Yukikaze
Z3
Z1
Jintsuu Kai 2
Agano
Naka Kai 2

Easier to get:
Akigumo (5-2)
Hiryuu (2-3 boss, 3-4)
Makigumo (1-4 boss, 2-3 boss)
Maikaze (3-3)
Mutsu (3-3, 3-4)
Iku (2 nodes in 1-5, 5-4 boss)
Shimakaze (2-4)
Yayoi (all 30)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185108
Event exclusive:
Musashi
Sakawa
Amatsukaze
Tanikaze
Akashi

Crafts/drops:
Bismarck
Yamato
Taihou
Taigei
Hatsukaze
Yahagi
Mikuma
Zuikaku
Naganami
Yuugumo
Shoukaku
Uzuki
Urakaze
Hamakaze
Akitsu Maru
Noshiro
Maruyu
Nagato
Kumano
Suzuya
Hachi
Yukikaze
Z3
Z1
Agano
Akigumo
Hiryuu
Makigumo
Maikaze
Mutsu
Iku
Shimakaze
Yayoi

Remodels:
Ryuuhou Kai
Bismarck Zwei
Hiryuu Kai 2
Chikuma Kai 2
Tone Kai 2
Haguro Kai 2
Z3 zwei
Z1 zwei
Ryuujou Kai 2
Jintsuu Kai 2
Naka Kai 2

[Anonymous No.]

i regret not playing for months. all the shipdaughters and resources i could have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185118
It's still not too late anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185118
well, with them teasing midway on twitter, now seems as good a time as any other to start again

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185120
>>12185127
i have been mass playing the past few days, but i get jelly of all the cuties you all have when i read these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck Akitsumaru, I used over 500k of res for her. Now I'll just wait for her to drop in event maps

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm looking at the official wiki for lottery times, but the one for 6/10 only says it's in the evening. Any particular time in the evening, or am I just going to have to stay up to 4 AM (PST here) hitting F5 until the lottery starts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185152
You'll have to wait a while more for the actual time.

[Anonymous No.]

1 girl army

[Anonymous No.]

http://vgmdb.net/album/45642
Been looking for this on and off for months and nothing so far. Well, aside from a really shitty lossy upload that I don't want. Would anyone here happen to have bought the album/has a lossless rip?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185197
http://pan.baidu.com/wap/link?uk=1799001799&shareid=1741554061&third=4
This?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185200
Wow that was fast. I need to learn how to search with Chinese sites instead of just Japanese. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185172
I just noticed she joined the Yamato, Musashi, Yahagi triumvirate

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I'm working on Hiryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
"Taigei never" Edition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185298
I got Ypakaze when I am hunting for Moby Dick. I swear that the desire sensor is working overdrive or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185387
I got four spares of her in a day, but 250 bucks later Taigei is still nowhere to be found.
I'll slow down the search.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185390
I was this close to turn Ahab and ruin my stockpile for Taigei. /jp/ is what keeps me grounded in reality through all of this.

Taigei would be obtainable in the event at any rate...

[Anonymous No.]

How long does events usually last? I started after the spring event, so Ive been wondering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185503
You can start by reading the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185503
from two to 4 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking desire sensor. Trying to get Ryusei Kai

2 Reppus
2 Suisei 12 A
1 Saiun

No Ryusei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185567
Is it normal for a Lv.57 player to have crafted only 1 RK in his entire career?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185589
I didn't start crafting planes until I hit level 80

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185589
I have only one too and I'm lv102, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185589
I only crafted my first a few days ago, and I'm lv105...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185589

Welp, I did crafted a Ryusei Kai on lvl 60 ttk with a lvl 30 Kaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185567
do tell the recipe used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Are all these rare ships or just randomly chosen for this bingo?
Hamakaze/Urakaze/Uzuki and the subs don't seem that rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185598

20/60/10/110

Ttk lvl : 80
Flagship: Akagi Lvl 68

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185639
There's only so many truly rare ships, at some point you have to start adding the more common rares.

Even Amatsukaze, Shioi(she's not there for w/e reason), and Akashi are only rare because they were limited time ships. You just needed a pulse to clear those maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185639
>Hamakaze/Urakaze
I'm pretty sure most people haven't dropped more than one.

[Anonymous No.]

This should be the centre tile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185664
What? You should have multiple copies of both if you tried to find Taigei

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185679
What a cutie. Who's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185680
Do they drop in 5-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185682
Shinden Kai fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185684
Oh. No wonder I didn't recognize her then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185683
Why would you hunt for Taigei in 5-2? Dragon training?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185680
Considering that it took me more than 60 2-5 boss kills to find an Urakaze and that in those runs I found neither Urakaze nor Hamakaze then no you shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

http://strawpoll.me/1875708

[Anonymous No.]

How do you decide which ships to abandon as you get closer and closer to cap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185691
You buy more slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185690
Shit taste incoming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185691
Love, and usefulness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185701
It's been painful to reduce the size of my sub fleet. At its peak, I had 7x Imuyas, 6x Goyas, 5x Ikus. Only the 3x Maruyu, 3x Hachi and 1x Shioi remain untouched while I downsize the fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185706
Just buy more slots then. It'll be less painful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185664
>>12185688
3 Urakaze 1 Hamakaze (all doubles) since I start farming taigei, just over 100 buckets spent.
I hate RNG. Send help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185709
I can't. I am already at 190.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185729
10 more slots soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185589
I only ever had 1 Tenzan (I think from stock equipment? Can't remember) until I hit ~70, then I only had 1 Ryuusei Kai for another 15 or so levels. Then they started flooding in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185740

This kind of posts make me doubt the seriousness some stories like these. I've allways had 10-15 Tenzans from as early as level 40 Ttk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185740
http://pso2.cirnopedia.info/costumes_6.php#nav

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185729
Limit is 200 now (I think)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185767
It's still 190. I read the twitter. It won't be 200 until later on in summer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185765
Well, I used 20/30/10/90 for most of the plane crafts back then (Tenzan needs 40+ ammo), but then I didn't get too many Reppus or Suisei 12As back then. Still, for some reason I started getting more of both (as well as Ryuusei Kai) when I switched to more standard recipes.

>>12185767
No, they haven't upped the cap yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185771
Oh, my bad then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185772

Just use the wiki wiki recipes. There are Reppus and Ryuuseis for even Lvl 30 ttks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185796
It's not like I wanted blue planes back then; the few times I used blue planes I found them to be useless. Even now I don't really see them as being that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185803
Oh, and I said I didn't get too many Reppus and Suisei 12As back then, but it was still a fair amount (around 6-7 of each out of over 100 crafts).

[Anonymous No.]

Can you no longer transfer your 1-5/2-5/5-5 runs from one month to another? I just finished 2-5 that I haven't done last month and then reset my API, the boss isn't there tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185803

Afaik blue planes are better than red. Blue planes have a 50/50 possibility of getting an 1.5 modifier or 0.8 modifier while red planes allways have an 1.0 modifier. At first glance, reds are better than blue because they are a safe bet but given that the best red craft are the Suisei 12 A with 10 attack while the best blue craft is the Ryuusei Kai with 13 attack, even with a 0.8 modifier, a Ryuusei Kai deals the same damage than a Suisei 12A.

Nevertheless, against some landborne bosses blue planes are useless because you can't bomb with torpedoes.

Now, in the middle roster, where you only have Tenzans and Suiseis, the red planes are definetly better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185835
7 times 1.5 is better than 8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185835
Whenever I used blue planes, they either kept missing or did scratch in the aerial phase, so I figured I might as well use red planes instead, which has the added bonus of saving bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
And I'm still too lazy to beat 3-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185854
>they either kept missing or did scratch in the aerial phase
You were using line ahead formation, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185865
Yes, every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
I guess I was too lucky with finishing LSC in 30 tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185854

How much bauxite you use has nothing to do withe the type of plane you use. When you spend bauxite you are replacing the planes that were shot down during a sortie. There are 2 factors that determine planes shot down: air superiority (80%) and enemy ship AA stat. You can easily control the first by ensuring you get air suppremacy using enough green planes. You can't influence the second but it's the less important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185874
Aren't blue planes easier to get shot down than red ones? (And green planes are even harder to get shot down; 3 red 1 green saves you a lot of bauxite.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185854
That is what happened in hard map most of the time. But still, Ryuusei Kai can potentially wipe enemy DDs while Suisei 12A does absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185876
3 green 1 red*

>>12185885
The key word is "potentially". Once I noticed that my lone Tenzan couldn't even shoot down normal DDs, I gave up on blue planes altogether for a while.

Fucking misses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185890
>Fucking misses.
Aren't red ones even less accurate?

[Anonymous No.]

Whale showed up while I was clearing the 4-4 weekly. It's the formation with oni and no subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12184831
Damn. This sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185909
Stop calling her a fat whale.
Congrats by the way, and remember not to neglect her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185911
>No amatsukaze
Are there already people so new that they don't have her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185907
Yes, but I figured since they're gonna miss in the aerial phase either way, might as well equip the one that not only does more damage in the shelling phase, but also doesn't get shot down as easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185220
In what sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185924
sakura holo rarity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185918
If i were that new, i wouldn't cross Iku or Akashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185928
Yeah, but E-3 was pretty easy too. Except if didn't have the required equipment or resources to craft them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185930
inb4 he sank his Amatsukaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185876

There is no conclusive evidence to support that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185931
It's not about ships you have in your fleet is it?

[Anonymous No.]

There should be an RJ Kai2 somewhere there to see who bothered to slog through 50 levels of the most horrible looking girl in all of Kancolle to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185933
Yeah, but that's what everyone here used to keep saying, too.

>>12185934
Wait, it's not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185918

Returning players after the spring event. I know someone who came back a few days ago and now is regretting it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a place to grind a BB where bucket consumption is pretty much non-existent like in 3-2-A? I had been doing 3-2-A with BB flagship + CV/L, which is nice because I ignored fatigue, but a carrier always took MVP which kind of felt like a waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185940
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185930
No sanshikis. Crafted 2 during the event but my Haruna deal a single digit damage to a 64HP darwin in my final run.
>>12185931
Safety goes first to event exclusive ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185912

At least I call her whale in an affectionate way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185937
>Wait, it's not?
I think it's enough if you have them in you kantaidex. But usually you wouldn't scrap those anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185935
Good thing I didn't Kai her and just grind her straight to 75 for the Kai Ni sprite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185940
How many carriers do you need to be able to ignore fatigue? I'm grinding it right now with a CV and CVL, and just a moment ago I got an opening bombing that only targeted two ships and only managed to sink one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185935
>>12185946
I see people complain about the RJ kai sprite a lot, but what exactly is wrong with it? I think I'm blind because the only thing that looks weird is her left arm. I'd prefer it over her original any day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185948
6.

Fill them all with Ryuusei Kais.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185950
You're just blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185946
Same here. She's already past her kai level, but she's not getting remodeled intil she hit 75.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185948
Personally I use 3 CV, 1 CVL (all that I need to level) and 1 SS. I used to fill them with blues but I switched to reds because I have better red planes. Usually it sinks all but 1, which my BB flagship takes out. If my flagship gets to orange, I'll switch the SS for a CA and rotate between CAs for fatigue. I don't know if it's the most resource efficient way but they're all ships that I need to level, so it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185948
usual setup is flagship, 4 CV/L, SS.

Adjust planes on CV/Ls to let flagship always mvp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185950
The color is really off, it makes her looks like she comes out of some shoujo manga, and it clashes terribly with everything else in game. The arms and the torso are also too short compare to her legs, and the shoes just make it even more worse.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought coming to /jp/ might help to stave of the boredom of stockpiling.

It's only making it worse with all these posts about the whale. I told myself I'd go after her as soon as I hit my resource goal, but now I feel compelled to try earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186007
I farmed for hamakaze for a month straight before event and got at least 4 of her in the spring event, so I'm sure whale gonna be an easy drop in the Midway. But the problem is, there are THREEEE 30 hours expeditions waiting for you after you get her.

[Anonymous No.]

620 buckets in stock. Shigure 100k experience from 99. Which happens first: run out of buckets, max Shigure, or catch whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186032
>Which happens first
Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186041
Midway is weeks way. You are too paranoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186027
>30 hours expeditions
Are they even worth it?
The previous 48 hour sub expeditions were also a pain, but at least it unlocked the german cuties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186063
Torpedos

[Anonymous No.]

Best class for maruyu feeding?
Destroyer?
Yes no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186063
The first reward is bull crap, idk what the second is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
Your Shipfu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
Subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
There was a CL that exceeded any other ship attack during night. But any destroyer or CL cut in, when properly modernized, destroys almost everything it aims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
Nagato/Haruna

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186131
Why do people even go for cut-in? DA is more reliable and deals more damage. Unless the loadout forbids it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
BB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186069
Yamato-class

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186145
>he didn't do ironbottom sound

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186145
Cut-in is better against enemies with high armor. Which is most bosses. Especially event bosses. Sometimes, even non-bosses like Re-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186160
Not him, but I cleared the fall event without cut-ins (subs are an exception ofc)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186160
Yeah, I started a few days after the event. Still, with the current ships, there's hardly any reason going for cut-in. Unless I'm missing something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186160
CLTs with double attack were the princesses there. I didn't even have beaver back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186178
>not CAs with double attack

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186174
>>12186172
>>12186178
BB/CA class double attack cannot break her armor armor. I brought 3ships that can 1shot her for E5 for Yahagi farming.
You wouldnt want to get A because your paper CLT got shot to red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186169
>Cut-in is better against enemies with high armor
Cut-ins seem to be consistently garbage when my BBs get them on enemy BBs, though. Are they only good on lighter ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186185
That's why I said current ships. I'd like to see a boss Haguro k2 can't pack with a double attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186145

Yeah, it's more reliable. But in tge hipothetic case you manage to max a destroyer or CL luck, the damage a Cut In does can be safer. Any CA and DD can get 50~ luck. Considering a torpedo cut in does 300% damage with an 80% chance pn flagship and 60% non flagship (even more if you equip a searchlight or the destroyer gets minor or medium damage). Welp, this is theory, in the end, the best option is double damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186190
BBs keep dealing scratch to DDs with cut-ins and double attacks as well, so I don't think it's the cut-in's problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186190

Yeah, because a cut in is 300% damage attack and the base attack of a CL or a DD easily surpasses any other ships.besides the hotels. But the hotels can't get the 300% crit because they can't equip torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186192
Haguro stock attack is only 168.
CLT has 202.
Ironbottom-chan has 160armor. You barely break her without getting a crit.
A cut-in from DD guarantee a clean kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186215
Won't a cut-in with torps require you to go through the enemy's armor check twice, because it's actually 2 attacks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186228

No, it's a single combined attack that doesn't miss ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186215
Torpedo cut-in is a 150% double attack, so it is only slightly better in terms of piercing enemy armour. Red gun cut-in is a 200% single hit, that's what we need to deal with high armour enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186251
I seem to remember torpedo cut-ins dealing 800 damage to BB-hime but that could just be a fleeting memory from a time when wikifags didn't fill these hallowed threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186251
DD has very high base attack power during the night because of torpedo stats.
BB is shit because of their fat 0.
Equipping 2x46cm on them only bring them up to around 150 . The kazes base attack power is already around 150 because of their torpedo stats. You put torpedo on them because torpedo stats is value much higher during the night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186251

No, the 150% double attack is exactly that, double attack, not a cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186282
Cut-in Attack
2 torpedoes 2 simultaneous attacks at 150%
1 main gun, 1 torpedo 2 consecutive attacks at 130%
3 main guns 200%
2 main guns, 1 secondary gun 175%

Double Attack
Two consecutive attacks at 120%. Very high base activation chance, compared to cut-in's luck stat reliant chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186292
>wikia
I'm not sure I can trust that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186300
They just translate the stuff from wikiwiki anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186292

Ok, I remembered it as a single attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186302
Problem is, we don't know how many times the cut-in will have to go through the target's armor check. We know for sure that double attacks have to do that twice; one for each attack. For cut-in, it might be a different case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186310
It only shows the sum of the damage, so it should look like a single attack. No idea how the players got out of it that it really are 2 attacks. Probably because you have to go through the armor twice. All under the assumption that wikiwiki isn't wrong on it.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anybody translate chapter 32-39 of the 4koma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186374
Yes, I compiled the full list here:
>>>/a/108592138

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186443
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185807
Anyone knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186577
You never could.

[Anonymous No.]

It feels really weird when your MVP is Mikuma and the dropped ship turns out to be Kuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12186443
What's the newest chapter now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187023
43 I think.

[Anonymous No.]

So what is your favorite whaling spot?
Does she drop at 1-5? According to the description, she should be available on EO maps

[Anonymous No.]

106 crafts and counting, 46cm where. Should I just give up and craft planes?
Currently 4x46cm, 5xReppu+Kai, bunch of suseis, 0x12A, 1xRyuusei, 1xRyuusei Kai, bunch of Tenzan, 1xSaiun

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187114
You need at least two more 46cm. But since Midway's coming soon, get 4 more Reppu

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187093

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187128
I don't even know what's worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187150
2-4, 3-4, 4-4 are shit. Best is 5-2 and do 2-5 if you want an Ura.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your whalin' squad, /jp/?

And have you gotten that blubber yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187160
Stop whaling and prepare for Midway. Don't fall for the trap the devs laid for you.
I use 2CA 1BB 1CVL 1CV for 5-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187161
I can't even whale cause I just cleared 2-4 for the first time today. At least it was a lot easier than expected.

I don't think a month could prepare me for midway; only 108 buckets and under 5k for every resource. Then again, I've only been playin' a week. Maybe I'll get my buckets to around 400/have enough resources for Midway by the time the event comes by.

Will prob. grind 3-2-1 instead or try to finally get a fucking sub for easier grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12185940
you still need to sparkle your BB on 1-1 to keep morale up if you're gonna fatigue farm

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187160
>>12187154
Well then, will keep doing 2-5 for a while. Beaver, Poi, Tone, Mikuma, Ooi and Chitose are good enough for me. It's way better to avoid two attacks of a Ru-class than going through the night rape node, where six enemies can fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187165
scrubtier ttk like you won't need much to all klar an event with level scaling

[Anonymous No.]

What is a relatively cheap 2-5 team that goes south but will skip wo-chan?
2DD 2CA 2CVL? Swap 1 CVL to a CA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187218
Yes, you only need a 24 planes slot of reppu to get air superior over Flagshipp CVL both Chi sisters and RJ can do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187160
I know better than binge sortie right before the event. Yes, she is cute, but I don't want to hurt my chances of getting Shinano, especially knowing that Taigei will be a drop there.

[Anonymous No.]

I've done 5-2 4 times already and I allways leave the boss with less tha 50 health. What can I do to improve damage?

This is my fleet:

Kirishima Lvl 66 fully modernized (46, recon, 15,5 sec, 41
Mutsu Lvl 60 fully modernized (46, recon, 15,5 sec, 41)
Kongou Lvl 44 fully modeernized (46, recon, 15,5 sec, 41)
Ryuujou lvl 47 fully modernized (slots in order Reppu, Reppu kai, Shiden Kai 2, 52 Zero)
Akagi Lvl 70 fully modernized (slots in order Reppu, Suisei 12 A, Ryuusei Kai, Suisei
Souryuu Lvl 62 fully modernized (slots in order Suisei 12A, Ryuusei, Suisei, Reppu)

inb4 craft more 46. I've spent 7k steel and 9k anmo to get only an extra sanshiki. I don't wanna spend more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187257
You really need more 46s if you want to do any real damage.

As for not spending resources to get them, think about how much you're already burning in resources trying to clear 5-2 to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187257
Replace the yellow guns with radar and take the boss down in night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187257
I bring a ship to level (Haguro) as flagship and a CLT instead of 2 more BBs, no Sanshiki either, put 2 46cm, radar and a recon on Mutsu, easy S rank, much cheaper. 2 CLT + BB works too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187257
Why do you use cut ins for the BBs?
RJ is a useless CVL.
Stop mixing bombers and torpedoes bombers on the ship.
And 4 times is not enough to give up.
>>12187261
I can do it with 2CA and 1BB and even did it with 2DD and 1BB so that's not the issue.

[Anonymous No.]

Is flash terribly bugged on W8.1 or something? Shit freezing after a couple hours is annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187268
>RJ is a useless CVL.

No, she's the best CVL once she gets Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187300
Chitose/Chiyoda seem stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187300
Well then he still has 28 levels to go for her to be useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187093

This setup work pretty well for 2-5 for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187300
>best
pff

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187306
How do you guys manage to reliably get to the boss without having your DDs raped by random trash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12187300
Now this is interesting. Plane count is pretty much identical if you put saiun on RJ / Chitochiyo. RJ wins out on higher attack power and bigger slot. Chitochiyo wins on slightly more armor and more hp. So I guess it's down to personal preference.
>>12187315
They have pretty reliable dodge and some armor to boot. Shigure took that damage from flagship TA on the bossnode.

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>>12187263
>Replace the yellow guns with radar and take the boss down in night battle.

>>12187266
>put 2 46cm, radar and a recon on Mutsu

Thanks anons, first bite at the boss bar.

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>>12187306
Do you go north or south with this fleet comp?

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>>12187333
BEHL. So south

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>>12187306
Swap out Yuudachi for Yukikaze and RJ for Chitose and I'm using a similar setup. Works very nicely except for the part where I don't get any fucking whales.

>>12187315
The only problem is Ru at the second node, and she almost never one-shots a DD to red. It's either bad luck with a green T or one ship getting focus fired.

A more frequent problem is my ships doing fuck all by wasting all of their shelling round attacks on the boss node BBs and having too many enemies and not enough attacks for nayt batol.

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>>12187328

And what I got as a drop. Oh the Irony, at least you should have give me Nagato

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>>12187346
Do you use saiun?

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>>12187350
Nope. But if there was some kind of anti-Saiun to prevent green T I would totally use it. Or better yet if T crossing actually worked the way it should.

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>>12187362
>Or better yet if T crossing actually worked the way it should.
We can dream.
I'm also thinking about replacing saiun with that other yellow plane. I can't really think of any situation where a green T would help me on this map

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>>12183857
Yup. Just another torpedo. So 90 hours for two torps.

Not worth it. I could have had my whale to 50 by now.

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>>12187455
>my whale to 50 by now.
What for?

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>>12187459
She's cute.

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>>12187455

Are the torps even good? I heard they can't perform cut-ins.

>>12187459

To have something to do. Mine is already 50 but I'm still waiting for the other kai 2s, I only have 6 medals so I'd have to wait till next month if any other ships also needs the blue print.

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>>12187462
Remodel her then.

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>>12187464
You can only equip them on subs. Don't know about the cut-in thing but if true then yeah, they're only worth dumping your unremodeled slaves.

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>>12187483
What about a hybrid turbines + torp?

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What the fuck is with those random CLs dropping 7 or 8 damage on line ahead against my subs? Holy shit.

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>>12187464
Read the combat page on the wiki.
>>12187483
You too.

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>>12187519

We were talking about the torpedos you get from doing ex 39, how many times? 3? 5?

Everyone fucking knows that you do a cut-in with 2 torpedos, but I heard you can't do cut-ins with these ones, I might be wrong.

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次回のメンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、三水戦旗艦を務め、その生涯の最期も「夜戦」で閉じたある軽巡のさらなる改装(改造)の実装を予定しています。また、同三水戦に所属し、その最期となる「夜戦」で獅子奮迅の活躍を魅せたある駆逐艦の改装(改造)も、現在実装準備中です。

Something about a DD getting kai ni next maintenance.

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>>12187539
I just hope its a cute one.
If its not cute then I wont bother with it at all.

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>>12187539
Sendai and Ayanami confirmed

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>>12187533
Gave it a few runs with two equipped on Goya. No cut-ins. I might be really unlucky but I doubt it. Goya rarely fails twice in a row, let alone three times.

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>>12187539

Is it finally time?

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>>12187548
Is it really Ayanami? I almost scrapped her like I always do, but I'm not sure now.

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>>12187539

They specified the 3rd Torpedo Squadron.
Sendai confirmed for CL Kai 2.
And the most likely candidate for DD Kai 2 is Ayanami.

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>>12187634
Is there a reason why ayanami is the likeliest choice?

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Newbie here. If I put Akashi and some minor damaged ship in my second fleet, would they get repaired if I send them out to expedition? Would the expedition be successful as long I fulfill the criteria (does damaged ships matter to begin with)?

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>>12187661
I'm pretty sure that's answered in the wiki.
Please read the OP if you haven't already.

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>>12187669
I did read it and couldn't find the answer; that's why i asked. The wiki only stated that the repair would not be interrupted if she was send to sortie. There's no word on expedition.

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>>12187580

That's pretty unfortunate.

Did you do more runs to test it out?

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>>12187686
Stopped at five. Nothing.

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>>12187678
To answer your first question, I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I've never sent Akashi on an exp, so I don't know.

To answer your second question, no, whether or not a ship is damaged has no barring on the success of the exp. That one I'm pretty sure is answered in the wiki on the expedition page.

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>>12187653

Hint speaks of the DD "who fought fiercely as a lion would in her last moments during a certain night battle".

Ayanami has a pretty impressive record during the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. She (along with Nagara and Uranami) sunk 2 destroyers (USS Preston and USS Walke), mortally wounded a 3rd one (USS Benham), and severely damaged a 4th (USS Gwin). She also aided (Kirishima) in causing heavy damage to the battleship USS South Dakota, but also took heavy damage in the process. In the end she was mortally wounded by USS Washington and had to be scuttled.

She's pretty much the 2nd Yuudachi.

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>>12187699
So ayanami is a plain and not cute Yuudachi?

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>>12187702
She looks like her face is half melted and sagging. Kai Ni has mostly been a pretty good thing, so maybe she'll get some chatacter.

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>>12187702
>a plain and not cute Yuudachi?
Kind of like Yuudachi pre-kai 2.

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>>12187699
hmm.. ok thanks, I'll try getting one for now I guess.

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>>12187707
If its anything like the rest of the shibafu sprites, it wont a big change.

She's just going to lose her smile and get a tan.

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>>12187714
>She's just going to lose her smile and get a tan
I feel like this is a metaphor for girls irl.

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>>12187698
Not him, but the second question isn't covered on the wiki either.

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>>12187709
Hey, I like her pre-Kai 2 more than her Kai 2.

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>>12187715
>>12187714
Ayanami's smiles and optimism: gone.

Seriously, does Midway look like something to be happy about?

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>>12187661
Yes. Make sure your Akashi is high enough level to satisfy flagship level requirements.
Yes. Even if all the fleet is red it doesn't matter.

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>>12187661
>>12187725
Pretty pointless sending orange or red ships in this case seeing that Akashi won't be able to repair them.

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>>12187723
It was pretty good for 'Merica. Hopefully, Freedom ships will all be huge, shit eating grins.

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>>12187720
My bad then. I know for certain I've read that somewhere, but I guess it wasn't the wiki.

Regardless, I know from first hand experience that you can send damaged ships on an exp and still get a successful result.

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why are some ships red and bolded in the droplist? is that to indicate S rank is needed, or rarity?

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>>12187738
I assume rarity. I got Urakaze from 2-5 with an A rank

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>>12187730
Big E had nothing to be happy about. Yorktown died at Midway, for which she exacted revenge on Hiryuu. I wouldn't be surprised if she lives with major PTSD if she were personified.

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>>12187739
I got Ypakaze yesterday with s grade win. Desire sensor working flawlessly right there...

I really loathe this map. My CAs get critted to red all the time at the night battle node.

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>>12187741
Imagine if we got Albacore or Archerfish? I hope all of their lines are about bullying the other girls.

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Please, it can't be Ayanami. She's one of the few DD I didn't bother keeping a copy.

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>>12187747
Just get a new one. She drops all over the place.

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>>12187749
I mean, every common DD I have is already at around 30-60. I'll need to level one from 1 to X (probably 60-70).

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>>12187741
Nah, Big E's Akagi switch won't be that. It'll instead be a lack of resources because not enough funds were raised to save her from scrapping.

On the other hand, Yorktown's switch will likely be Midway-related.

>>12187746
Most definitely.

>>12187752
It's fast if you can set your mind to it.

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>>12187752
Again, not that hard to pull off. Power-leveling one DD to those levels can be done quickly for a price or efficiently over time.

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>>12187755
4-3 is absolute fucking magic for DDs and CLs.

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>>12187539
The 4th album is already being filled out fast by a whole bunch of K2's.

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Anyone notice that the less than one minute glitch seems to be more like less than 40 seconds glitch now?

I'm wondering if they changed how things worked since the last update.

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>>12187780
Fairly certain that it's 45 seconds.

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>>12187780
It's still 1 minute for me. 1 minute 5 seconds, in fact.

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>>12187780
Looks like it's random now. I've got to wait full expedition time once(i.e. no glitch at all). Usually it's like before, sometimes 40s.

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>>12187784
>>12187788
>>12187804
Now I'm curious to find out exactly how it works.
I'll do a little testing and see if I can narrow it down.

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So it's confirmed that Taigei doesn't drop at 5-5?

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>>12187842
Don't bother, more likely than not it's different from different people, and that it's liable to change by updates.

For me, I think it increased by 5-10 seconds after this update. I started early December and it was 45 seconds then, then after a while 15-20 seconds were added.

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>>12187367
Getting a green T on the boss node is good unless you're betting on night battle to win.

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There's a lot of kai2's lately, I can't take it easy and stockpile like this.

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>>12187909
Some K2's are important and useful, such as kirishima

You don't have to K2 all of them immediately

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>>12187909
At least those K2s make ships useful. I still can't understand what the devs were smoking when they made Naka's K2 stats worse then K1 Kuma.

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>>12187925
Her Kai 2 is more or less just a dam joke.

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>>12187921
I usually don't but I felt a rushing need in case of dragon. And she was lvl3.
I don't mind it one bit though, I really like her new form.

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How important do you guys think it will be to have more than 4 carriers for Midway? Trying to get one of the ones I'm missing is seriously getting in the way of my stockpiling.

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>>12188024
4 is probably good enough. I don't think the devs are sadistic enough to make it 5 and above.

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>>12188029
CVLs are good enough.
R-right?

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>>12188024
>>12188029
It does not make sense to have more than 4. CVs don't hold onto their alpha damage well over time, and we know that Japan didn't manage to field more than 4 CVs for Midway at any rate.

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>>12188033
you'll need them for double support expeditions.

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>>12188029

I can see it now. Last boss is Midway-chan, 4 Wo Kai, and 1 sub.

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>>12188033
Probably. Midway will include Aleutian Campaign which Ryujou and Junyou participated.

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>>12188036
They can always add new game mechanic like the last event.

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>>12188036
>>12188029
What I'm worried about is needing 3+ CVs for compass in addition to wanting a few CVs for support expedition.

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>>12188044
>to wanting a few CVs for support expedition.
Slot number does not matter, if I remember correctly so use CVL for support. Besides, they are cheaper.

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>>12188043
Like the enemy harassing you with air units between nodes.

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>>12188043
They pretty much have to unless they want the event to be dominated by battleships again. And this was supposed to be carrier's time to shine after they were useless in Ironbottom Sound. I'm expecting some kind of carrier cut in to make their luck stat finally worth it.

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Carrier AA to be added to air superiority power when?

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>>12188051
Not Midway.