Hey kankolle fags

[Anonymous No.]

I don't play kancolle so I don't think I'll buy merch, but appart from a couple of lines from a seiyuu, what contents is there?
Because I'm under the impression that it's just a shallow, niwaka friendly, cute girl factory to sell merchandise.

So besides being a ship and having ~20 lines what is there to know about the girls that isn't their lewd bodies?

[Anonymous No.]

There is no content. No story. No personalities. Just stereotypes.

Welcome to moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>what is there to know about the girls that isn't their lewd bodies?
Honestly nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
>Because I'm under the impression that it's just a shallow, niwaka friendly, cute girl factory to sell merchandise.
And you're absolutely correct. It's a crappy social browser game-type, so the lack of depth shouldn't be a surprise.

There's a reason some of the more hardcore military otaku crowd avoids the game, since the military content is so superficial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
It's literally touhou without gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
>>12170721
Why is there so much porn of this.

Even my sister has seen the ass

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>12170796
Or music. Or character depth. Or humor. Or girls preparing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170803
Well, there's not much depth to 2D anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170806
what does that even mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170803
There is music, it's just not memorable or good.

It does have actual voice acting, so if you're into that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170806
Or should we count the Kancolle drafts as character depth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170803
>2hu
>character depth

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170810
lol, this guy doesn't even get the joke, what a loser LOL w

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170816
To be fair, every anime-style thing looks like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170776
its made by what is ostensibly a pornographic company so its to be expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170826
Under orders from the yakuza, no less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170840
The shadow company that secretly owns everything (but poor anons think it's an indie thing).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170843
>owns everything
Even ZUN???

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170845
Where do you think he gets the alcohol?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
>what is there to know about the girls that isn't their lewd bodies?
Like 2hus, absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170850
Pls stop
No more red pill pls
The truth hurts ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170845
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Underbar_dk/Touhou_Sangetsusei

They are the publisher for those at least.

[Anonymous No.]

2hu = kancolle = shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170874
To each his own.

[Anonymous No.]

Combat records and secondary content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170874
>2hu = kancolle = shit
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170799
Is your sister hot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170811
Listen to the Fall '13 event music. It's pretty epic.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFACmMAvktM

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>>12170816
I'd still recognize them much better than if it was done to another series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170806
Ha, I get it. At least I think that's what you were going for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171063
I've used to play Kancolle for a pretty long time and if I just heard that being played, I wouldn't be able to tie it to Kancolle.
I'd just think it was from some anime or videogame or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
Wow... I really want to pull on the panties of a girl like that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171063
The new room decoration song is ludicrously out of place next to all the battle themes, and also fantastic.

The slice of life interlude in a constant combat series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171192
Infamously, this is the music that was the most associated with Fall '13's notorious E4 map.

Apparently the more difficult the map is, the more epic the BGM is. So with Midway coming up (they announced it on Twitter), I'm going to expect even better music.

[Anonymous No.]

>/jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171233
Midway hasn't even started yet?
How do they manage to keep people's attention when they update so slowly? I mean when I quit, I had just about every ship, and enough resources to dump into LCS to get the ones I didn't have.
How many new ships have they added since then?
I've seen the shimakaze upgrade and a couple other kai2s from just looking around, but there have to be much more right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171265
>Midway hasn't even started yet?
Yeah, turned out that Spring '14 event (the anniversary event) wasn't Midway, but it was based on the assault on Port Darwin. When did you quit?

>How do they manage to keep people's attention when they update so slowly?
Small, frequent updates each time, with the occasional major update. New maps (and new BGM to go with it), new voice lines, UI updates (which included a major overhaul for the anniversary update), the like. Extra operation maps give you monthly medals which you can trade for blueprints, which are needed for certain 2nd remodels. Oh, and the new day battle mechanics.

It's been quite slow since all the hype's on the inevitable Midway; people have been stockpiling just to prepare for it, since apparently the devs are aiming for a 15% clearance rate.

>How many new ships have they added since then?
Most of the new additions were destroyers (Z1, Z3, Hamakaze, Tanikaze*, Amatsukaze*, Urakaze; were you around when Yayoi and Uzuki were added?). Those that weren't were BB Bismarck, RS Akashi* and CL Sakawa*. Kai 2s added after Jintsuu were Kirishima, Tone, Chikuma, Ryuujou, Haguro, with Hiryuu, a DD, a CL and a fast BB coming up. The German ships got 2nd remodels (zwei) quite soon after they were released, too; not that their zwei forms are that good or anything.

*Introduced in Spring '14 event; still currently unavailable otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
>it's just a shallow, niwaka friendly, cute girl factory to sell merchandise.
Bingo! Some of the designs do certainly cater to my fetishes though, I won't lie.

>>12170754
>Welcome to moe.
Moe is largely dependent upon characterization. Archetypes are moe because the visual elements refer to certain (often implied) narrative/character patterns. A cute character is often insufficient in eliciting moe response unless she uses symbols that have gained moe status over time. At any rate, moe necessitates some engagement with a "narrative" (used in a very loose sense).

Kankolle is more in line with "chara" and brand icons, but it's using sex appeal and moe aesthetics to hook. As far as I know, there's no real narrative to engage us emotionally so I wouldn't say it's moe at all. Given how shallow moe conventions themselves can be, it's really something to say Kankolle is more like a bad imitation of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171340
The girls talk to you and you can even marry them! That's narrative, r-right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171340
They're based on WW2 ships, so most of the characterisation is based on what happened to their historical counterparts. What they did, how they sank etc. It's not much, but I wouldn't say there's no characterisation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171367
Actually, yes. Putting them into a context like that they could very well be moe, but it's a pretty cheap tactic. I thought it was nothing more than a collection game. Like you would get really pretty art, but nothing "moe" per se.

The more involved you get (i.e. the more characters develop), the more moe a character gets. I can only hope that Kankolle at least offers novel permutations of the moe archetypes, but you know, Strike Witches got by without it (though it did eventually have adaptations with some semblance of story). I hope it dies down soon. It really bothers me to see something so shallow get so much hype. Not that that's anything new.

>>12171375
>What they did, how they sank etc. It's not much, but I wouldn't say there's no characterisation.
I'm actually not even sure how that would play into characterization. Does it shape their personalities? Like a warship that sank a lot of enemies turns out hot-headed and needlessly aggressive or something? That could actually be moe AND interesting, but something tells me it's not like that at all. Something tells me it's a vicious cashgrab using pretty girls and mock-historical novelty for people who don't really care about either. I don't know anything about Japanese warships, though, so I can't really say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171383
>Like a warship that sank a lot of enemies turns out hot-headed and needlessly aggressive or something?
Not exactly, but there's a distinct difference between, for example, base Yuudachi and her 2nd remodel, which was a reference to her last battle. Not all of them are like that, though, as far as I can tell; I don't know enough about the ships to give a clear answer, either.

That said, it's true that there isn't that much characterisation in the game, so most of it is in the manga spinoffs. There's an anime coming up as well; you could check it out to see if there's any characterisation there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12170721
>>12171340
>>12171383
>Kankolle

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171383
It bleeds through in some places. Nagato is proud as fuck of her Big Seven status, Kongou is British, Yamashiro and Fusou are ancient, terrible, and profoundly unlucky. Ikazuchi always wants to help people, Kaga resents Fifth Carrier Division because they declined to show up for Midway, Maruyu is pathetic because that's how the Maru Yus were.

A lot of characters' in-game characters have nothing to do with their history, though. The fandom has taken on itself to expand their characterizations or make the relevant historical connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171418
And Yukikaze will not sink!
>Kaga resents Fifth Carrier Division because they declined to show up for Midway
I don't think it was because of that. If I'm not wrong it's because Kaga's captain deemed the 5th CarDiv crew inexperienced as compared to the 1st CarDiv's (and maybe 2nd CarDiv's as well), and there's also the fact that the Shoukaku class carriers were also newer and more advanced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171407
>there's a distinct difference between, for example, base Yuudachi and her 2nd remodel,
Hmm. If it doesn't really show the progression they might as well be two different "characters" and only in the barest sense of the word.

>There's an anime coming up as well; you could check it out to see if there's any characterisation there.
Heard about this. Given the source material and the hype I'm not at all interested. I watched Strike Witches and it was alright for some service, but in retrospect it was a huge waste of time. And that's probably what I'm at a loss for when it comes to the popularity of these things. Why would you burn so much money and time into something so utterly insignificant. Out of all the possible ways to spend your limited time, why this? Touhou has a heavy creative aspect in the community and even the worst moe series have some story to offer. Do people just want to be part of something?

>>12171418
Yeah, sounds like those ridiculously easy to market "chara." Though there's potential there.

>The fandom has taken on itself to expand their characterizations or make the relevant historical connections.
Damn, that's lazy of the creators. At least the fans care enough about it, but they're being robbed by all this merch coming out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171233
I still get goosebump from listening to that BGM.

>>12171211
If only we can use the BGM for the main menu...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171428
That's part of it but it's frequently said that another carrier at Midway could have turned the tide (Zuikaku could have been dispatched with Shokaku's air group). And on top of that, after Akaga sank at Midway, the cranes ended up replacing them as First CarDiv.

>>12171432
>in retrospect it was a huge waste of time.
Everything we do here is a huge waste of time.

>Touhou has a heavy creative aspect in the community
Kancolle has some of that. In fact, they've actually poached quite a bit from Touhou Project.

>At least the fans care enough about it, but they're being robbed by all this merch coming out.
Nobody forces you to buy the official shit, you can just live off doujinshi if that's what floats your boat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171441
>you can just live off doujinshi if that's what floats your boat.
Doujinshi are free and everyone in Japan downloads their doujinshi, nobody goes to event and waste tens of thousands of yen, and circles never have their products physically sold out, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171450
>Doujinshi are free and everyone in Japan downloads their doujinshi, nobody goes to event and waste tens of thousands of yen, and circles never have their products physically sold out, right?
Even if they do, so what? You still don't have to buy the official shit if you don't want to. It so happens that people do actually buy it but presumably that's because they wanted to own the anthology of whatever the fuck else it was they bought, it's not more of a ripoff than any other manga collection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171450
People buy doujinshi in Japan and sometimes circles sell out but that has fuck-all to do with what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171418
The connections are rather shallow, aren't they? From my experience playing it, it seems rather than being about moe warships anthropomorphized doing cute warship things, it's more about cute (and not so cute) grills who happens to share the same name with warships doing whatever. Vain as HELL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171460
>grills

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>>12171432
> Out of all the possible ways to spend your limited time, why this?
>Do people just want to be part of something?
Japan likes their F2P games, but most of them are P2W. This one isn't. This was why it got popular in Japan. How it spread outside of Japan though, I'm not sure.

>>12171441
I guess that's true too, but inexperience is the most likely factor because Kaga's only line referencing the 5th CarDiv has her call them kids:
>五航戦の子なんかと一緒にしないで
In addition, Akagi doesn't share Kaga's resentment towards them, which she would have if what you said was right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171460
They're not great. Kumano is an ojou for the sole reason that she was born in Kure and Kuroshio's entire personality is "the Kansai girl" A+++++ characterization very original would play again.

>cute (and not so cute) grills who happens to share the same name with warships doing whatever
That "whatever" consists of fighting naval battles and performing naval expeditions. You can't sit down and play minigame chess with them.

[Anonymous No.]

Missed this one.

>>12171460
>From my experience playing it, it seems rather than being about moe warships anthropomorphized doing cute warship things, it's more about cute (and not so cute) grills who happens to share the same name with warships doing whatever.
I don't really get that feeling playing the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171441
>Everything we do here is a huge waste of time.
Nah. It's about enjoyment. As long as you enjoy it, it isn't a waste of time. In the case of SW, I felt like I could've enjoyed something else much more. Like watching a mediocre movie.

>Kancolle has some of that. In fact, they've actually poached quite a bit from Touhou Project.
It seems to be moving in that direction with all the doujinshi coming out, but that's just because it's hot right now. Until there are fangames and music and shit I'll consider them distinct camps.

>Nobody forces you to buy the official shit
You know how that shit goes though. These people get into something and they buy up everything. I just hope they're getting something substantial out of the whole ordeal. Their money and their time's worth, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to fuck shimakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171463
Both Akagi and Kaga refer to their flight complement as "kids" too, it's not necessarily a put-down.

Akagi doesn't complain because Akagi is not a bitch because she primarily blames herself for the catastrophe, you can hear it in her MVP line and the 4koma makes fun of it in Akagi switch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171472
>because Akagi is not a bitch
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171465
>Kumano is an ojou for the sole reason that she was born in Kure
She's hardly the only ship born in Kure and she's the only one that's an ojou.

>>12171472
By "kids", she's referring to Shoukaku and Zuikaku themselves, not their flight complements. She treats her own flight complements as "kids" for a different reason (because she's a ship, I presume). In short, it's the context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171468
>It seems to be moving in that direction with all the doujinshi coming out, but that's just because it's hot right now. Until there are fangames and music and shit I'll consider them distinct camps.
They have music arranges. And quite a few circles do both Touhou and Kancolle. Really, if it weren't for the secondary material, I would have never started playing this game at all.

>You know how that shit goes though. These people get into something and they buy up everything. I just hope they're getting something substantial out of the whole ordeal. Their money and their time's worth, you know.
You could buy all the light novels, anthologies, and every issue of all the magazines the comics are serialized in with under a week's salary. That leaves just 51 left to keep you alive and pay the rent. These people buy BDs, they really have nothing better to do with their money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171432
>Out of all the possible ways to spend your limited time, why this?
Kancolle is already declining. Although /jp/ doesnt talk about it, there is another game that hit 27mil download count and is raking in billion of money for their creator. Kancolle is already dying after 1year while the other game is still going strong in their 3rd year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171462
Yes, grills. The plural form of grill, as in cute grill, hot grill, Youmu is a grill, etc. What of it?

>>12171465
I wish that "whatever" consists of fugging them...

Anyway, those naval battles are so vague. Do those girls run over water? Do they ride ships and replace the ship's battery? Is it something else? That's laziness on the dev's part! I can't take it easy like this!

>>12171466
Good on you?

During the time I played it I didn't really feel I was playing with a moe-fied version of the Combined Fleet or its ships. The girls are too arbitrary and there just wasn't any real connection.

>>12171476
Keep fighting the good fight!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171490
>fugging

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171487
im@s Cinderella Girls, was it?

Lottery turns off quite a lot of people, you see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171493
>Noun

>fug (countable and uncountable, plural fugs)

> A heavy, musty, and unpleasant atmosphere, usually in a poorly-ventilated area.

What of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171498
Isn't CG in its 4th year? And anyway /jp/ talks about CG('s girls) sometimes. I thought he was referring to pazudora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171490
>Anyway, those naval battles are so vague. Do those girls run over water? Do they ride ships and replace the ship's battery? Is it something else? That's laziness on the dev's part! I can't take it easy like this!
Pretty much every source there is has them walking on water. If you really have touched nothing but the game I can see why you think it's boring as shit.

>The girls are too arbitrary and there just wasn't any real connection.
You can read their extended self-introductions, it might help. But it probably won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171504
>pazudora
Welp, looks like I guessed wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171498
Its pazudora. You need a semblance of gameplay to keep the userbase interest.
Rolling a dice get stale after a while.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/210021/GungHo_reaps_over_1_billion_in_Puzzle__Dragons_revenue.php

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171511
"Less successful than the most successful mobile game in mobile game history" does not mean "failure."

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171511
*It's

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171506
>>12171511
Huh, my little cousin got me to start that up. I didn't continue with it. I don't really like mobile games. I don't really like F2P games in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171516
I am talking about longevity here. I have a 106T-Level account in kancolle. The game is pretty much dead to me.
There is just nothing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171516
"Bleeding money off of your browser game" certainly is, though.

Though that's disregarding the merchandising potential, but strictly from looking at the game's revenue turnout, it's a failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171521
I'm level 98 and don't really play much either, too. But I'll keep enjoying the secondary content and trying my hand at events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171522
What else did you expect from a F2P game that wasn't intended to be P2W from the start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171530
What I expect has nothing to do with the fact that >>12171516's statement is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171549
I'm still not convinced it's a failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171505
I only play the game and read its porn and other assorted fanworks. I got bored of the game after getting all the girls I want and finding even the events wasn't that much fun, and the fanworks are rather dull. The porn is decent, though.

The self-introductions seems more like the girls reading some historical textbook rather than recounting their own stories, as there wasn't any strong connection between them. It just adds to the superficial nature even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171553
It's not making any money. The devs said so themselves.

I don't see how a service, which is often made with the purpose of making money, not making money is anything but a failure of said service's purpose.

Again this is strictly from looking at the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171557
At the end of the day if you don't want to pretend the ships are girls then you aren't going to. The premise is inherently stupid and it's something you have to take at face value if you're going to enjoy anything besides maybe the porn.

>>12171553
Honestly, I was amazed the game took off in the first place. It wasn't great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171463
>but inexperience is the most likely factor
pic related

>>12171566
>I was amazed the game took off in the first place. It wasn't great.
It's not like you can expect anything great from DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171565
Because it's not a moneymaker, it's an advertisement for the franchile so they can sell merch.
People basically play ads. How else would you call this poor excuse of a game; afaik it makes use of downtime, and that is never a good sign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171565
>often
There we go.

Guess what. This game was not made with the purpose of making money.

[Anonymous No.]

are there any guys who play shitcolle nonironically that aren't normies? i don't think so

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171751
Normies play this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171779
All shitcolle-players that i know are normies. You know, the ones that are using their mobile phones and go out in weekends with their friends. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171803
They must be exceptions to the norm, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171803
Kancolle isn't a mobile phone game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171779
I went to a card shop when they had a yugioh tournament to laugh at the normalfags, and some of them had custom kancolle mats.
True story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171937
Don't those count as mercandise, which falls under secondary stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171937
Visiting a hobby store just so you can laugh at the nerds playing cards seems like a pretty normal thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Kancolle has a manga, right?

How much it expands the characters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173664
Not a damn thing. It is a slice of life warfare(?) manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173664
>>12173680
Depends on which one you're talking about. Just that the 4-koma is the most well-known of the lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>92 replies
Actual longtime Touhou fanboy here, please ignore anybody who uses made-up words and is aggressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173717
What made up words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171675
>Posting the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography. Keep /pol/ in /pol/.

What the fuck?

How is what I said even wrong.
And even if it were how the fuck was it any of the aforementioned violation?

modshit confirmed for cancollefag

[gigs !.JtaMW8O4g No.]

>>12173724,1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,1

He probably thought you were asuka spammer and just grasped desperately for some rule to ban you on

[gigs !.JtaMW8O4g No.]

>>12173724,3
Or the new janitor is a try hard retard who thinks he can get /jp/ back on course by wiping the slate clean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,4

The new janitor is a retard, but not a try hard. He's rarely here.

AoC is for sure a mod and he loves KanShit also.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,4

The new janitor is a retard, but not a try hard. He's rarely here.

AoC is for sure a mod and he loves KanShit though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,6

Why does the W tell me I failed the captcha then send my post through anyway

[gigs !.JtaMW8O4g No.]

I got permabanned from /jp/ for this.

>>/jp/thread/S12146118#p12159111

Proof shitposting can go too far and I have to wait another month to appeal my ban.

[gigs !.JtaMW8O4g No.]

half lyrics i wrote

I can tell you gigs was my homie
every night he would roll with me.
shitposting late at night.
posting on /jp/ used to be his right.

an anime girl pic here and one there
it wasn't his fault that the janitor was tsundere

but here is something the janitor might not like
gigs may be banned but at least he is not a circumcised kike

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,9
tsundere doesnt rhyme with there

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,8
>not evading your permabans
>still posting on the jay
>epic memetexting

[Anonymous No.]

>>12173724,8
How drunk are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12171937
>>12171984
It sounds like something Tomoko tier.

[gigs !.JtaMW8O4g No.]

>>12173724,11
Why would I ban evade? I just have to wait 30 days to appeal again and surely it will work this time.

>>12173724,12
I am sure it was a factor but that was like a week ago.