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Kantai collection - Kancolle Anonymous Mon May 26 14:59:19 2014 No.12147453 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:01:11 2014 No.12147458 File: 64 KB, 500x1073, BofP0uXIEAAGCqP.jpg large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First for Fatalpulse

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:01:44 2014 No.12147462 >>12147458 Disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:03:15 2014 No.12147470 >>12147453 good taste OP

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:03:50 2014 No.12147471 I've been out of it for a while so whats the recommended comp for 2-5? What comp did you guys use to beat it?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:04:00 2014 No.12147472 File: 416 KB, 849x1200, 43733568.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12147453 Amatsukaze is outdated.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:05:19 2014 No.12147478 >>12147471 I used 4CAV2CLT but people tend to like 4BB2CV.

Anonymous Mon May 26 15:10:15 2014 No.12147491
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>>12147471
Tried 4 CAs 2 CAVs twice and got a ship crit to red at the first node. Both times. Then tried 4 BBs 2 CVs twice and ended up at node F both times.

I just used 2 CAs 2 CAVs 2 CVs and got to the boss node for the first time (by B-E-I-L). And got pic related as the boss drop.

Now going to replace the CVs with CVLs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:10:44 2014 No.12147495 >>12147471 You either go full cruiser or you power through it with the good old 4BB2CV.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:11:45 2014 No.12147497 >>12147471 2CAV, 1BB 1BBV 2CV.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:29:24 2014 No.12147549 >>12147495 >>12147478 Slow BBs or Fast BBs? I tried it with 2 kongous and 2 Nagatos but got sent to dead end after the first node three times in a row.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:31:11 2014 No.12147557 >>12147549 I've heard only 4FBB works with the 4BB/2CV setup. You'll still occasionally get sent to the dead end after the first node, but most of the time you'll make it to the boss.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:31:46 2014 No.12147559 >>12147549 Having a big ship in your fleet gives you a chance to go to a dead-end node. Some people seem to have less problems with it, I went with the cruiser-approach.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:32:21 2014 No.12147560 >>12147471 >>12147471 4BB 2CV. BB equipped with 2 main guns, a radar and type 0 recons. No yellow planes on CV.

Anonymous Mon May 26 15:33:08 2014 No.12147562

>>12147491
>Now going to replace the CVs with CVLs.
Same route as with 2 CVs. Worse, I got crit to red at node E, and so had to F5 at node I's formation selection screen, after continuing just to see where the fleet would go.

Guess I'll just stick with the CVs for now.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 15:41:57 2014 No.12147562,1 kancolle

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:30:08 2014 No.12147719 File: 809 KB, 800x2919, 終わった.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Late as HELL to the party, but I'm glad it's finally over.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:37:56 2014 No.12147742 >>12147719 Why are you talking to an excel sheet? Also, getting both Taihou and Yamato in 36 crafts is lucky as hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:41:25 2014 No.12147752 File: 100 KB, 790x900, Tanikaze.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too many new DD's. Tanikaze isn't getting much love.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:43:07 2014 No.12147756 File: 345 KB, 723x1023, bfed483877aa067154061ea505214ac0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12147719 Bis-chan where

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:43:14 2014 No.12147758 >>12147752 What is she good for?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:43:43 2014 No.12147760 >>12147742 I think he got burnt out after all those crafting? Tho I consider getting taihou and Yamato before his 40th try is pretty lucky,

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:44:33 2014 No.12147763 >>12147742 Taihou, Yamato, Bismarck, two Zun and two Maruyu in 13 crafts and Yahagi, Mikuma plus 4 more Maruyu in 25 min LSC

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:45:12 2014 No.12147764 >>12147763 Fuck you too, mate

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:49:10 2014 No.12147778 >>12147763 How is this possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:50:01 2014 No.12147780 >>12147778 Desire sensor I wanted to use it as res sink to justify full autismiing expeditions and not grinding because time intensive and thus it gave me everything

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:50:19 2014 No.12147781 >>12147778 RNG.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:50:56 2014 No.12147782 >>12147758 ___________.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:55:10 2014 No.12147792 >>12147758 raep

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:55:56 2014 No.12147794 >>12147782 >>12147792 Tender loving.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 16:56:22 2014 No.12147797 >>12147782 Uh, shitposting?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:37:28 2014 No.12147888 Does anyone here can play using API on linux? For some reason I can't open the api link, it gives me "Couldn't resolve url" or something. I already installed flashplayer, I even tried using the flash projector but nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:41:26 2014 No.12147898 >>12147888 Works without any problem

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:41:43 2014 No.12147899 Oh, great, I-58 from crafting. There goes all my luck. All I wanted was a Max Schultz

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:45:04 2014 No.12147904 >>12147898 Then I must be doing something horribly wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:49:19 2014 No.12147912 >>12147899 but goya isn't rare

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 17:51:07 2014 No.12147917 >>12147904 "Couldn't resolve url" sounds like you managed to paste copy&pasted your API link wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 18:04:34 2014 No.12147958 >>12147912 Ship rarity, sure, but craft percentage... My luck hit the wrong target.

Anonymous Mon May 26 18:52:18 2014 No.12148060

>>12147471

There are quite a few compositions floating around.

Most people tend to like 4FBB2CV since it's the easiest, but also the most expensive and has a chance to run off course to node F.

Some went with cruiser fleet. 4CA(V)2CLT. Also has a small chance to run off course.

Personally, I've been farming it with medium-light fleet myself using several different comp:
- 1CA 2CAV 2DD 1CVL
- 2CA(V) 2DD 2CVL
These two has extremely low chance (if any) of going to F. At least I haven't been running to F at all since I started farming 3 days ago. It takes you through BEHL route and skips the Wo node. People are still trying to work out the branching rule for skipping Wo node, but it seems that:
- Having any large ship will send you straight to Wo node.
- If you have no large ship, but have a CLT, or less than 2DD, or more than 2 of any ship class, it will be random.
- If you have 2DD, no large ship, no CLT, no more than 2 of any ship class, then you go to H and skip the Wo node, at least almost always if not 100%.

I'm also using another comp that supposedly takes me through the north route ADHL 99% of the time. The branching rule according to wiki is 1CL 3DD. So I'm using 1CL 2CAV 3DD, and it seems to be working pretty well for me. P.S. this path has a night battle node, so it's not for everyone.

I should also mention that almost all of the full compass rigging, medium-light fleet requires really high level in order to perform well. So if you don't have any high level medium or small ships, just stick with 4FBB2CV. It's the safest, albeit annoying and expensive, composition for this map.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 18:53:51 2014 No.12148066 >>12148060 Thanks, thats really helpful. How do you deal with the flag BB on the E node?

Anonymous Mon May 26 19:15:24 2014 No.12148095

>>12148066

I just line ahead it. Ru-class misses about 40% of the time, and 40% of the time my girls are able to hang on to orange, while the remaining 20% they go red and I retreat. Double Line doesn't really do anything for me, so I opt for crippling the Ru-class before it can fire again in the second round of shelling. In fact, I find it more risky to do Double Line with my medium-light fleet because I run the risk of not doing enough damage to their FCLTs, which can hit REALLY hard with HIGH accuracy if they survive to torpedo phase. I personally find those more dangerous than the Ru-class.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:19:10 2014 No.12148100 >>12148060 Tried the 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL comp ant it sent me to node J instead of the boss node Do I need more saiun/LOS or am I doing something wrong here?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:21:15 2014 No.12148101 >>12148100 Mind telling all the equipments your fleet is carrying?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:23:09 2014 No.12148106 File: 19 KB, 516x266, ss (2014-05-26 at 06.51.36).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148101 Green planes are reppu/reppu kai Blue is Ryuusei/Ryuusei kai The radar on the CAs is type 21 and the one on Shigure is 13

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:25:21 2014 No.12148110 >>12148106 I will ask the obvious question here. Why the blue planes?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:27:02 2014 No.12148113 >>12148110 Didn't know what else to put there, there's no enemy CVs so greens would be a waste and decided to go with blue over red to fill the remaining spaces

Anonymous Mon May 26 19:28:27 2014 No.12148120

>>12148106

Replace both Type 21 radars on your CAs with seaplanes. And if you have any more No.13 radar, give one to Poi as well (I'm assuming you don't have any No.22)

See if that works. Your equipment LoS is a little bit on the low side so you might need to sacrifice some accuracy/power for more equipment LoS.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:32:15 2014 No.12148131 >>12148120 Tried again with the same equipments and comp (Because I already had started a sortie before this post) and got to the boss node. So maybe this works but its not a 100% thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 19:34:37 2014 No.12148135 >>12148131 It could be that if you don't meet the LoS requirement it becomes random, and the chance of going to boss decreases the further away you are from the asked value.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:08:11 2014 No.12148201 >>12148106 >Yuudachi Kai 2 with cut-in setup >Shigure Kai 2 with double attack setup Something's not right here. Oh well; try putting a radar on Poi to see if the extra LOS from it is enough. Or see if you can stuff another Saiun on Hiyou or Jun'you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:09:21 2014 No.12148202 I still can't get past 5-3. Night nodes are hell for non-suicidal TTK's.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:10:15 2014 No.12148204 >>12148202 5 subs and lots of time/patience

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:13:44 2014 No.12148212 >>12148202 Do it like real men with 1CL 5DD and lots of buckets.

Anonymous Mon May 26 20:17:28 2014 No.12148225

>>12148201
Yuudachi actually cuts in every time in night battle for me but I didnt bother setting the DDs for night battle, only the CAs for day double attack.

>>12148120
Did this and have been getting to the boss node every single time and zero dead ends. Thanks a lot for the advice.

Musashi !silf.UGEBE Mon May 26 20:30:30 2014 No.12148257
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>>12147001
>Just tried it on OSX and it works.
>I still have to launch it with the "-XstartOnFirstThread" argument otherwise it won't run at all.
>That's pretty sweet, man. Not everything's translated/works, but it's nice to see an english version at least running on OSX.
Which are?
I'm sure everything is translated/works, except for the quest list.
Will be working on 0.6.0 after it's certain that most of the stuff are translated and working.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:33:44 2014 No.12148264 >>12148225 At least give Shigure 2 torps, man. If Poi cuts in for you consistently, that's good, but she might need a radar if your problem is not enough LOS.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 20:41:06 2014 No.12148277 >>12148202 I did it with 2DD, 1CAV, 1CA, 2FBB. Keep trying guy.

Anonymous Mon May 26 20:49:49 2014 No.12148296

>>12148257
I don't have it in front of me right now, but if I remember correctly, the equipment list was empty and none of the ship names were translated.

If it helps, I was using the 0.6.0 sanaechan files with your english logbook.jar file. I would have used the 0.5.18 version of sanaechan, but the only version I could find on the japanese site was the most recent.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 21:20:09 2014 No.12148339 Just realized that the latest version is out. Don't know how long it stayed open in my computer. The resource chart is nice addition, could be better if the y-axis is adjustable.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 21:26:10 2014 No.12148354 >>12148339 New version for what?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 21:29:33 2014 No.12148359 File: 18 KB, 787x426, 資材ログ_2014-05-27.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148354 Logbook

Musashi !silf.UGEBE Mon May 26 22:08:43 2014 No.12148438
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>>12148296
Delete the config folder, the problem happens because it has been populated by the japanese logbook data.

Using the latest sanaechan files are fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:19:16 2014 No.12148577 you fucking weebs still playing this retarded jap shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:21:10 2014 No.12148579 >>12148577 The fact you felt a need to post that gives off a much more desperate vibe than what you're projecting onto us "weebs".

Anonymous Mon May 26 23:23:41 2014 No.12148585

>>12148438
Got rid of the config folder and all of the ship names are in english now. The equip list is still empty though. Tried scrapping some equip to see if it would refresh the list, but it's still empty.

Also, appreciate all the work you're putting into the new logbook.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:23:42 2014 No.12148586 File: 141 KB, 567x800, 1393776081629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148579 >giving replies >2014

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:23:53 2014 No.12148587 >>12148577 I suppose you have a better alternative to propose we waste our times on, good anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:24:16 2014 No.12148589 What is the formula for effective LoS, is it sqrt(base LoS) + equipment LoS?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:24:43 2014 No.12148590 >>12148587 shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:27:13 2014 No.12148594 >>12148587 Jump on the mobage bandwagon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:32:45 2014 No.12148603 How many Reppu would be a safe number to have? I'm sitting on 6 right now and in my head that sounds like enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:35:50 2014 No.12148609 >>12148603 That is enough. You won't field more than 3x CV and you would have a bunch of shiden kai2 to go with your reppus as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:35:54 2014 No.12148610 File: 3 KB, 222x75, HVgGT6c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148603 More than what I have. I think it'll do if you have a Reppu Kai or Shinden on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:36:51 2014 No.12148611 >>12148603 Got 9 plus 1 Reppu Kai. I'm striving for more.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:38:56 2014 No.12148617 >>12148610 I wish I had Shinden, 101 FP on Kaga in a single slot is broken as fuck. >>12148609 Yeah I'm going to go ahead move on to getting more 46cm. >>12148611 Is this to be an asshole in pvp with 6CV?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:41:59 2014 No.12148624 >>12148617 I have been working on 46cm instead of planes. 4 of my 10x 46cm came from the Yamatos, and that's really not enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:43:09 2014 No.12148626 >>12148617 >Is this to be an asshole in pvp with 6CV? No, I just want some more. I'm too paranoid or greedy I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:44:53 2014 No.12148630 >>12148624 That's 9 more than me. Yamato won't come to me and I started right after fall event ended.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:46:27 2014 No.12148636 >>12148617 Not him but I want more Reppu for convenience sake. Currently, if I need more Reppu on my carriers, I have to unequip them from other carriers and put them on again. It is quite troublesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:51:13 2014 No.12148644 >>12148636 I hate that so much. It's too bad that priorities have to go to guns and radars before I can tackle this inconvenience issue. Do you guys binge craft your gears, or you just do it through dailies?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:54:23 2014 No.12148651 >>12148644 I learn never to binge craft. It can be quite disheartening to see 15 or so attempts yielding very little rewards.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 23:55:07 2014 No.12148652 >>12148644 Binge craft. I wish there was a 10/50/100 slider to craft that amount of times in a single go. Doing hundreds of 10/10/11/10 for drums is a pain.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:00:56 2014 No.12148661 >>12148644 Dailies, though I tend to do a few extra crafts each time.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:40:31 2014 No.12148714 I tried doing 4 BB 2 CV like what you guys said and I literally get sent to the F node each time. I don't have any CAVs aside from Mogami, do I have to start grinding them?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:42:05 2014 No.12148718 >>12148714 2CAV 2BB 2CV works wonder for me, so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:45:36 2014 No.12148727 >>12148714 Mine's similar to >>12148718 except I used 1BB and 1CLT instead. BB is a Kongou class.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:47:48 2014 No.12148731 >>12148727 >>12148718 Thanks, I guess i'll start leveling those CAVs then.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:48:04 2014 No.12148732 >>12148714 2CAV 2 DD 2CVL works too

Anonymous Tue May 27 00:50:57 2014 No.12148736

>>12148603
During the event hype I had a dream that devs implemented high AA as a requirement for successful support in Midway. Now, I don't know how plausible that is, but I'd rather not be fucked over like that, even if it means sitting on 20 reppuus.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 01:12:19 2014 No.12148748 >>12147458 What is this first shit? Have we gone that far?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 01:48:11 2014 No.12148784 File: 5 KB, 190x44, p.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148609 Is it strange that I have only crafted this little shiden k2? no, I didn't scrap any.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 02:27:03 2014 No.12148844 File: 1.13 MB, 1366x768, titkaze.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got tititykaze from 2-5, Why is Urakaze hiding from me!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 03:35:18 2014 No.12148932 >>12148844 I'm sorry, but who is she? I don't recognize her?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 03:46:44 2014 No.12148951 >>12148932 WIKI it bro, (hamakaze)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 03:47:50 2014 No.12148956 >>12148932 Hamakaze

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 03:53:34 2014 No.12148967 Which wikiwiki page that mentions Effective LOS = sqrt(total ship LoS) + Eq LOS?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 03:56:42 2014 No.12148973 >>12148967 From 2-5 page, it's (recon plane stat x 2)+(radar stat)+sqrt(ship stat)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 04:01:35 2014 No.12148982 >>12148973 >recon plane stat x 2 Good lord, just how did they figure this out. Now I feel like stacking 4 saiuns on 2 carriers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 04:06:41 2014 No.12148989 >>12148973 Ah, I somehow missed it. Thanks.

Anonymous Tue May 27 04:10:31 2014 No.12148995

Why do I feel like whenever I T-cross the enemy in missions, my fleet seems to do much worse and than they should? As in, my ships miss and the enemy gets at least one ship on red during day time. And this is with a Saiun.

Please tell me this is a common occurrence for someone else too.

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 04:20:17 2014 No.12149010 >>12148982 If they can find combat formula, finding effective LOS stat should be piece of cake

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 04:21:56 2014 No.12149012 >>12149008 I can only recognize Type A and 15.5 fairy.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 04:34:59 2014 No.12149023 >>12148995 During a green T-cross the enemy shoots you harder, too. Doesn't make realistic sense but that's the way it is.

>>	Musashi !silf.UGEBE Tue May 27 05:13:18 2014 No.12149063 File: 40 KB, 800x500, Resource Chart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And it's done. logbook 0.6.0 now comes with total LoS and resource chart. https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 05:16:07 2014 No.12149071 >>12149063 sweet, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 05:23:45 2014 No.12149079 >>12149063 >total LOS >not effective LOS Why.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 05:27:45 2014 No.12149081 >>12149079 That's just recently found, the original JP version doesn't have it yet.

Musashi !silf.UGEBE Tue May 27 07:22:22 2014 No.12149227
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>>12149079
Ship LoS value given by the game is already sum of ship's and equipment's, so logbook will not know the original LoS stat unless we disarm the ship ourself. Compared to that, calculating only the equipment LoS stat is easier to implement because the value is readily available from API.

There is a way to infer the ship original LoS stat, but i don't have the capacity to implement that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 07:30:46 2014 No.12149238 >>12149227 If you know total LOS and equipment LOS, the ship LOS should be total LOS - equipment LOS. Or is there some other factor as well?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 08:36:11 2014 No.12149313 >>12149238 If it the formula uses "summation (sqrt (ship LOS))", you can't use that method since it'll be different than "sqrt (combined LOS)"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 09:27:39 2014 No.12149409 File: 71 KB, 800x800, 1397715927974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149079 Welcome to KanColle, where equipment is everything and the stats don't matter For ASW and LOS for now at any rate

Anonymous Tue May 27 09:34:53 2014 No.12149424
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200+ bucket, 10k each ammo fuel, 44 S rank.
it over.... finally free from the stupid map!

taking the night route is much easier than the F node risk when going south.

DD CAVx2 CA CLTx2 LOS360(at least) is guaranteed boss node.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 09:40:42 2014 No.12149437 >マルキューヨンマル。提督の皆さん、おはようございます！今日は火曜日！約70年前の今日5月27日は、戦いの分水嶺となった作戦に、一航戦・二航戦を基幹戦力とした南雲機動部隊が柱島泊地から出撃した日です。本日も索敵と先制を大切に、頑張ってまいりましょう！ Urr... don't tell me that Midway's still on schedule.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 09:50:09 2014 No.12149448 >>12149437 What did you expect?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 09:53:35 2014 No.12149450 >>12149437 Just like that Haruna Kai 2 and coastal defense ships, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 09:53:42 2014 No.12149451 >>12149437 Better get your carriers ready for next month.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:01:00 2014 No.12149463 >>12149437 I told you guys Midway took place in June. Going to laugh at all the faggots with no resources if it is happening.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:03:15 2014 No.12149467 >>12149463 They will announce it at least a month in advance

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:07:04 2014 No.12149473 >>12149467 What if they do it at the end of June? Better get your bauxite ready, the announcement could be tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:08:20 2014 No.12149476 >>12149437 Hopefully it's next month. My resources are hitting the limit again.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:11:53 2014 No.12149481 >>12149473 I have 80k at the moment. If that won't be enough, nothing will

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:12:25 2014 No.12149484 >>12148736 How about just not scrapping your Siden Kai 2's You need enough reppu to fill 3 CV & a few more incase one of your CV sinks (accidents happen)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:14:53 2014 No.12149486 Please no more battles with nonsensical fighter requirements. I hate that my CVs went from damage dealers to reppu/saiun hosts.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:15:55 2014 No.12149489 >>12149473 >>12149476 You can't be serious. I'm way past the regen limit myself, but another event so soon means that we'll have to wait months for the next one, again.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:16:41 2014 No.12149490 steps that have to happen before midway: -Haruna and Sendai Kai2 -Musashi available from LSC -Myouko class Kai2 so probably around mid August Midway will start.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:18:02 2014 No.12149497 >>12149490 >Musashi available from LSC and I'll be running out of res before event.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:18:11 2014 No.12149498 >>12149484 I never scrap them. >incase one of your CV sinks I'm not a kuso.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:19:04 2014 No.12149500 >>12149486 >nonsensical fighter requirements you know you can go with like half the required fp and still obtain air superiority instead of supremacy? it costs a bit more on baux but your carriers will do damage.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:20:12 2014 No.12149505 >>12149489 Maybe they'll introduce 3-5 and 4-5 in the meantime.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:20:20 2014 No.12149506 >>12149484 >incase one of your CV sinks (accidents happen) They don't. When in doubt, retreat.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:20:33 2014 No.12149507 >>12149498 When you're on your 40th hour on a regenerating map accidents happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:21:21 2014 No.12149509 >>12149490 >Musashi available from LSC Due time I join the rank of faggots who get their desired ships within 5 crafts

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:21:29 2014 No.12149510 >>12149497 that's the point, make Musashi available like 2 months before event so people can drain all their resources on lsc/exping, the same happened when they added LSC and a month and half later 5-5.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:21:31 2014 No.12149511 >>12149500 It's obvious he was talking about superiority, mate.

Anonymous Tue May 27 10:21:50 2014 No.12149513

>>12149489
Only if the devs are lazy. Events were supposed to be a quarterly thing in the first place and when the anime starts bringing in new players they won't be able to hit us with something difficult.

>>12149490
Why do they have to happen and why do you think it'll take 3 months to implement a bunch of ships that were probably finished a while ago?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:22:15 2014 No.12149516 >>12149507 I don't think they'll bring back hell that is Fall E-4. Every hard map nowadays have a composition that takes you straight to the boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:22:23 2014 No.12149517 >>12149507 No map ever took 40 hours to clear

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:22:23 2014 No.12149518 >>12149507 >regenerating map That's a thing of the past.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:23:25 2014 No.12149521 What about the bombing of Kure event? It makes sense to have Haruna Kai2 ready coincide with that. Tone's at Kai2 already after all. We just need Hyuuga, Ise, Aoba and Hosho kai2 to make it happen by July!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:24:39 2014 No.12149522 >>12149517 Fall E4 took me about 16 hours nonstop to clear. It took just as long to get Yahagi...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:25:39 2014 No.12149524 >>12149517 It took me 37 hrs to complete Nov E5 with lvl ~40 ships. I assume those who used subs spent even longer

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:25:48 2014 No.12149525 >>12149521 >Hyuuga, Ise, Aoba and Hosho kai2 What about Fusou and Yamashiro? >>12149522 You're lucky. Took me 20 hours of non-stop sparkling and sorties.

Anonymous Tue May 27 10:28:35 2014 No.12149526

>>12149513
I didn't say that, obviously they're already implemented, they just didn't publish them, there's probably some sort of timeline to follow, it's not like they can make everything available right away so people will clear all the available content and stop playing, they want people to slowly enjoy the game, and keep them interested with minor patches.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:28:38 2014 No.12149528 Is there a update today or regular maint?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:29:00 2014 No.12149529 >>12149525 >Fusou >Yamashiro That'll be for the Nishimura fleet event if it would ever happen. Suragao strait, October event... with mandatory composition of Fuso, Yamashiro, Shigure, Mogami, Michishio. You get three new Yuugumos in the event.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:29:15 2014 No.12149530 >>12149524 It was a bit less than 10 hours for me. What the hell were you doing for 37 hours?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:30:16 2014 No.12149532 >>12149530 I did not sparkle, may I add.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:31:01 2014 No.12149533 >>12149532 Sparkle's half the work, along with fatigue recovery...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:32:01 2014 No.12149534 >>12149424 I have been taking the south node and wanted to give the north a try, so I did. They red my kumano on the night node on my first try. What do I need to do to avoid this to happen again? How about the formation? Or just keep trying?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:33:20 2014 No.12149538 >>12149533 That's why I never sparkle. I rather do more runs than wasting time on 1-1

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:35:17 2014 No.12149542 Now that my resources are back at 150kish i must say fuck sub cheesing, i'm having way more fun clearing stuff with regular fleet, even thou it costs a bit more, clearing dailies is way faster and fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:36:41 2014 No.12149545 >>12149542 They really need to rework subs to make them useful and relevant again like they did with CAs. And most important of all, actually fun to use.

Anonymous Tue May 27 10:37:06 2014 No.12149547

>>12149534
I go all line ahead every nodes without sparkles.. and pray.
try put your heavy armor ship on 2nd and 5th slot since that part easily gets red.

my total run was 151 but that includes when I was using the south node which keeps getting dead F..

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:37:42 2014 No.12149548 File: 8 KB, 389x278, ss (2014-05-28 at 12.35.51).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149530 I had only just started in November and was extremely poorly equipped. I have a graph of the bosses hp/time

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:39:16 2014 No.12149549 >>12149517 40hrs is a bit too much, you could clear the whole event in that amount of time, and even do some Yahagi runs, and i started 3 weeks before the event, my best ships were ktkm, Kongou, Mogami and Fusou sisters.

Anonymous Tue May 27 10:52:55 2014 No.12149566

>>12149545
CA/V have become extremely fun to use, since you can go with multiple setups depending on the situation or fleet setup and use them to obtain air superiority for day battle cut-in galore. Tones have become stable members of my daily farming fleet, with their firepower and armour you can sortie without battleships.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 10:54:03 2014 No.12149570 >>12149529 I see that unlikely though. We have a quest for that composition already. Then again, it will be a different context for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 11:47:22 2014 No.12149650 >>12149437 To me this sounds more like they will start world 6 soon rather than an event.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 12:54:06 2014 No.12149780 What's a good map to farm ammo other than 2-3?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 12:58:11 2014 No.12149798 >>12149780 There isn't one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:00:44 2014 No.12149810 >>12149780 Just run ex2, ex5 and ex21 like a sane person.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:10:24 2014 No.12149835

>>12149516
>>12149518
And why would they not? While it's true that everything we've gotten since November is clearable for the majority of players, it's most likely their intention to have easy maps all the way until Midway.

And aren't they aiming for a 15% clearance rate for Midway? I find it hard to believe that maps without regen will lower the rate by that much.

>>12149529
You forgot the last 2 members of the Southern Force. Asagumo and Yamagumo. They're 2 of the 4 Asashios that aren't in the game yet.

>>12149780
For some reason I use more ammo on 2-3 than I gain it. It's more for fuel farming than ammo farming.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:12:15 2014 No.12149841 >>12149810 What about exp 37? it's better than 21.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:16:02 2014 No.12149853 >>12149841 21 covers both fuel and ammo while 37 only gives ammo so you will lose some fuel over time. If you have enough drums and you don't care about fuel gain, ex2, ex21 and ex37 may give a better result.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:18:28 2014 No.12149862 >>12149853 Not that anon but while we're on the topic of expeditions, what would be the best combination to just hoard resources and prepare for events/whatever comes? Have been doing 2, 21 and 38 but thinking of replacing 2 with something else.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:19:27 2014 No.12149866

>>12149835
Put re flag as a boss for everyone over TTK lvl80. Clearance rate is 5%.

Also, having a targeted clearance % is retarded, because it only caters a small fraction of players who can actually complete the event meaning such an event would have negative effect on 85% of the playerbase. And no sane developer wants that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:19:55 2014 No.12149867 >>12149862 Ex6 for bauxite.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:20:15 2014 No.12149868 >>12149862 I usually do 6, 37, 38.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:20:44 2014 No.12149870 >>12149862 2 if you need buckets. If not, 6 for baux. Or 5, 21, 37 if you don't need more baux or buckets, which might be the case for players who hoarded a lot for the previous event

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:20:58 2014 No.12149871 >>12149862 Both tokyo express + #6.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:21:53 2014 No.12149874

>>12149866
>Put re flag as a boss for everyone over TTK lvl80.
Fuck that
I really hope midway doesnt have level scaling, it would be a huge dick move to tell admirals over 80 to get fucked while giving away a free shinano and other event rewards to newbie admirals.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:22:48 2014 No.12149877 >>12149866 how many players are actually active and not only have a more or less dead account?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:24:36 2014 No.12149881 >>12149874 >I really hope midway doesnt have level scaling, it would be a huge dick move to tell admirals over 80 to get fucked while giving away a free shinano and other event rewards to newbie admirals. Stop caring so much about what others do.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:26:08 2014 No.12149882

>>12149866
I'd take Re flag over, say, Fall '13 E5 boss, any day. In fact, it'd be comparable to Spring '14 E5 difficulty. I don't think that'll lower the clearance rate by much.

And to be fair, they warned us beforehand, like as early as 4-5 months ago, that they're not going to hold back for Midway; we're apparently supposed to be stocking on resources for months beforehand.

And in the first place, I doubt they'll have level scaling for Midway to begin with, at least for the latter half of the maps.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:26:34 2014 No.12149884

>>12149866
>And no sane developer wants that.
They want 85% of the playerbase to be trapped in LSC hell. If they make everything easy to get then there's no incentive to keep coming back. By adding level scaling you're also punishing the dedicated 15%.

>>	Eurofag !qUytODkcyE Tue May 27 13:27:28 2014 No.12149885 >>12149874 I really hope it WILL have level scaling. I don't give a fuck if others can get muh trophy ships as well if that means more happy players, which means more cash from everything which means longer life and more content.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:27:30 2014 No.12149886
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>>12149866
Re Flag as the boss is still doable. If they want 5% clearance rate they'd put her as the map's mid-boss.

With a hime version of Ritou Seiki as escort because why not.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:28:50 2014 No.12149889 >>12149884 >By adding level scaling you're also punishing the dedicated 15%. That's retarded. Also 85% happy > 15% happy All games go down that route after some time. Just look at wow.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:32:43 2014 No.12149896 >>12149884 >>12149889 The compromise would then be for most of the events to cater to the 85%, with the occasional event catering to the 15%. Midway being in the latter category.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:33:27 2014 No.12149898

>>12149874
To be fair, the most ideal level scaling is for players to feel challenged relatively to their levels but the way it's implemented is a bit unfair. Supposedly, your HQ level should reflect the level of your ships but we all know that's not the case at all.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:34:31 2014 No.12149899

>>12149885
>I don't give a fuck if others can get muh trophy ships as well if that means more happy players
Read the post above you.

One of the biggest points of this game is collecting ships and sometimes bragging about having rare ships if you feel like that.

By adding level scaling and making it piss easy for low levels while the 80+ maps are impossibly hard then you're punishing people for playing the game because everyone in the middle would get fucked.
And there's no point if you have every newbie and everyone below 80 running around with the E5 (E6?) reward, might as well add trading while you're at it so everyone can be happy for a day or two after getting the ships they want and quitting because there's nothing else in the game for them.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:35:59 2014 No.12149904 >>12149898 There shouldn't be level-scaling at all. If you can't meet the requirements too fucking bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:37:15 2014 No.12149907 >>12149889 >wow ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:38:46 2014 No.12149910 >>12149874 I hate level scaling. Just because my ship has extra evasion and accuracy does not mean I should have to fight things that crit me to death. Maybe if having level 70 ships actually meant 70 more attack power and defense.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:39:36 2014 No.12149912 >>12149899 >By adding level scaling and making it piss easy It's not piss easy. Also those <lv80 don't have things like 8 46cm or 6 reppus.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:41:17 2014 No.12149915 >>12149912 I'm HQ100 and I have 2 46cm and I think 2 reppu maybe. I probably could have them, if LSC didn't eat all resources.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:41:43 2014 No.12149918 >>12149912 I remember having around that much good equipment in my late 70s.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:42:22 2014 No.12149920

Am I the only one who thinks level scaling is BS for the new players?

I mean, clearing Ironbottom Sound without stockpiles or fancy equipments or whatever is a million times more fun than steamrolling nerfed maps because you can't play with the big boys yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:42:22 2014 No.12149921 >>12149912 I'm above 80 and still don't have those equipments yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:42:37 2014 No.12149922 >>12149915 That's your fault for bad resource management. Isn't equipment crafting scaled with your HQ level too?

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:42:43 2014 No.12149923

>>12149912
Were you even here? <lv80 admirals didn't even have the battleship princess at the boss node among other things. Their Wo kai were flanked by cannon fodder. If that isn't piss easy I don't know what is.

And 3-star equipment are mostly luxury, it doesn't excuse you from needing to fight tough enemies.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:44:50 2014 No.12149928 >>12149912 >>12149904 As I said, their implementation of level scaling is quite unfair. What is easy to you may not be easy to them, that is the whole fucking purpose of level scaling: to make it a very hard but still reachable challenge.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:45:09 2014 No.12149929

>>12149904
The best way to do it is like >>12149896 suggests.
Couple easy events to keep people happy and one or two yearly events aimed to the higher level players that actually reward you for playing the game and leveling your ships without level scaling

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:45:12 2014 No.12149930 >>12149918 >>12149923 I admit that it is easy for those near lv80 but it should be hell for the others. They should add more layers of scaling.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:45:32 2014 No.12149931

Looking at what low levels get in the last event, it's not like they had a much easier deal than the 100+s.

Sure they had flag DD/CAs instead of flag Rus on E5. But Flag Rus were like canon fodders in the face of the 4BB fleets we sending out.
Senkan Seiki was the real hairpuller of last E5, and you had to deal with her regardless of what level you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:47:14 2014 No.12149934 >>12149931 >Senkan Seiki was the real hairpuller of last E5, and you had to deal with her regardless of what level you are What? That's wrong, people under level 80 didn't have to deal with the hime at boss node.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:47:23 2014 No.12149935 >>12149931 Battleship princess did not appear at the boss node if you were low-levelled. For the rest of us, we had to deal with her pulling attacks from the boss due to diamond formation and wrecking our ships so they couldn't attack at night battle.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:48:03 2014 No.12149938 >>12149931 You know elitist would not mind the level scaling if the map prohibits you from brute force. That way everybody suffers with the lower level admiral suffering worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:49:14 2014 No.12149942 >>12149934 >>12149935 Confirmed for not being around during last event. Second node was the main brickwall.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:49:26 2014 No.12149943 >>12149912 While 46cms are hard to craft, i think i've gotten 5 reppus when i'm still in my 50s

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:51:11 2014 No.12149949 >>12149918 >>12149943 Why don't you guys share your luck with others? I only have one reppu and I'm lv101.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:51:16 2014 No.12149950

>>12149928
>What is easy to you may not be easy to them

See >>12149923
You didnt even need ASW equipment for lowbie E4 and it was free farm for everyone that had that version because the only dangerous thing in the whole map was a wo kai2.
Survive those two hits and you get to farm event ships for no cost at all

Only people that wouldn't be able to beat a map like that would be people that started that week and even them were getting easier maps because of being below 30 so they had a real chance at it too so it was easy for everyone below 80 while everyone above that had to suffer to get their event rewards.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:52:09 2014 No.12149954

>>12149942
I have Sakawa and had to deal with the Hime at second node and boss, if you think the boss node's hime is the biggest cockblock of that map there must be something wrong with you, low level admirals were able to sink the boss and get S rank even most of the times they reached the boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:53:11 2014 No.12149958 >>12149954 *if you think the boss node's hime ISN'T the biggest cockblock I fucked that up.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:54:33 2014 No.12149963 >>12149949 >I only have one reppu and I'm lv101. Let me guess, it's the kai version isn't it? Just use the classic miracle recipe with your best carriers. I've gotten lots of 3-star planes with Kaga and Shoukaku.

Anonymous Tue May 27 13:56:26 2014 No.12149968

>>12149942
You are dumb.

How does the preboss node being a problem exclude the princess returning at the boss from also being a problem?

In the end the <lv80 admirals only had to dodge her once while we had to contend with her firepower twice as well as suffer through her tanking Yamato-class firepower like it was from a peashooter and covering the boss due to diamond formation.

Not even going to address your spurious claim about us not being there for the event, much less the implication that we didn't actually clear the entire thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:57:43 2014 No.12149973 >>12149950 See >>12149930 . As I said, it was badly implemented but that does not mean it should be disregarded totally. Hopefully, they will fine tune it. >>12149954 Looking at my sortie logs, second node was the reason I retreated the most.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 13:59:39 2014 No.12149982 >>12149963 >Let me guess, it's the kai version isn't it? No, still god bless the devs for giving out a free reppu kai.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:00:20 2014 No.12149985

>>12149973
First of all, everyone had to deal with her at second node. Second, the problem isn't really retreating a lot, the problem was being able to sink the boss or not.

And a level 70 admiral is more than capable of having the necessary equipments for that map, putting high leveled ones on a huge handicap.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:00:43 2014 No.12149987 >>12149973 >Looking at my sortie logs, second node was the reason I retreated the most. The princess at the boss node didn't cause you to retreat because you were already at the boss node, you dingus.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:01:36 2014 No.12149989 >>12149985 >the problem isn't really retreating a lot, the problem was being able to sink the boss or not. Speak for yourself.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:06:12 2014 No.12150010

>>12149954
>>12149958
>>12149968
I'm just saying how it was for me and a friend I know. I managed to clear E5 but had to retreat quite a good number of times due to the second node. I didn't use logbook, but I recorded the damage I did to the boss per run (I had to retreat 6 times at the second node). Make of it what you will.
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29
450
325
218
450
330
396
329
39
450

My friend couldn't clear the map because he kept getting crit by the BB hime at the second node. He only complained about not being able to sink the boss once, out of his last 10 or so E5 attempts; the others were all retreats from the second node due to the hime.

>>12149963
Not him, but which one? There are a lot of plane recipes which have been touted as miracle recipes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:06:46 2014 No.12150012 >>12149982 I hope they're going to give us more planes on Midway.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:06:48 2014 No.12150014

>>12149989
The thing is you needed double the luck to beat the boss if you were high level, first at the second node and then praying to hit the boss while low levels just had to get past the second node and smash the boss node which had a CA instead of a battleship hime.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:08:56 2014 No.12150020 >>12150010 21/60/10/131 It's a pretty good recipe. Just today, it gives me 2 or 3 Ryuuseis

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:09:49 2014 No.12150022 File: 41 KB, 260x610, planes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150020 >>12150010 20/60/10/100 15% holo chance.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:10:18 2014 No.12150023

>>12149985
>>12149987
The context of the post is who is the biggest cockblock for E5, the hime at the second node or the one at the boss node. Reading my sortie log, I retreated 16 times on the second node and failed to kill the boss 15 times. So yes, you guys are right. Hime on the boss node was a cockblock but frankly, not as bad as the one on the second node.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:11:16 2014 No.12150024

>>12150010
Well let me tell you about my experience. The pre-boss princess wasn't really a huge problem in the end because she would usually only crit one of my ships to orange or miss.

The problem was my ships not hitting the boss. I made it to the boss so many times but then all my girls decided to concentrate fire on the princess who tanked all their attacks no problem. I actually ended up doing 0 damage to the boss twice. And this was with 2 Nagato-class and 2 Yamato-class.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:12:10 2014 No.12150026 >>12150023 16 vs 15, where's the difference?

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:13:41 2014 No.12150030

>>12150023
No the context was if <lv80 admirals had it easy for E5. The answer is mostly yes since they were near-guaranteed a kill on the boss node as long as they made it.

How do I know it? Because I knew two people under lv80 who cleared E5 before I did bragging about how it wasn't an issue to them.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:14:08 2014 No.12150032

>>12150023
Well, that was some RNG fuckery for everyone, but I was questioning the "Looking at what low levels get in the last event, it's not like they had a much easier deal than the 100+s." part. I agree that the second node was absurd, but it couldn't be avoided by anyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:14:18 2014 No.12150034 >>12150022 The Kai version of Ryuusei and Suisei is sure hard to get. I've got like 1 RK and 2 S21A

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:19:44 2014 No.12150045

>>12150034
Model 12A is much easier to get than ryuusei kai from my experience.

Just do 20/30/10/40 with a CV flagship for your dailies and eventually you will have tons of them, ryuusei kai on the other hand is rarer and the recipes are much more expensive.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:19:45 2014 No.12150046

>>12150020
Huh, not 20 steel? I'll try that I guess.

>>12150022
But that's the minimum recipe. Unless you mean the minimum recipe is a miracle recipe?

>>12150024
>4 BBs
There's your problem, you should've used 3. Daytime double attack made things a lot easier for me at night..

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:19:50 2014 No.12150048

>>12150026
Not much. Hence why I agreed in the end that the Hime on the boss node was a cockblock as well but the frequency of getting sent back on the second node was pretty frequent.

>>12150032
>>12150030
While I understand that the original argument was how lower level admirals have it easy but I'm arguing specifically against >if you think the boss node's hime ISN'T the biggest cockblock . My apologies for causing a misunderstanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:20:46 2014 No.12150049 >>12150046 >you should've used 3 Not viable without Yamatos.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:21:08 2014 No.12150050 >>12150046 I tried 3 BBs for ~10 runs and didn't have much luck so I switched.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:22:08 2014 No.12150054 >>12150020 >>12150022 These things give too many Ryuuseis. I just want my Reppu.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:22:08 2014 No.12150056

>>12149942
>>12150010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yah2crti8UM

I guess you must be lucky as hell if what happened to me at 12min of the vid seldomly happen to you. Because that WAS what I got most of the time, and that was why I consider E-5 hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:22:16 2014 No.12150057 >>12150046 I forgot to say, what does 3 BBs have to do with air superiority at all? You can get air superiority no problem with 4 BBs, I know I did.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:25:10 2014 No.12150062 >>12150048 I wasn't the guy who said that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:27:08 2014 No.12150068 >>12150057 IIRC 4 BBs need that multirole plane and all Reppus, while with 3 BBs, you can use 12A and/or damecon

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:27:29 2014 No.12150072 >>12150046 You could get AS just fine with 2CV, the problem is that they didn't have any free slots left afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:28:02 2014 No.12150076 >>12150049 I did it without the yamatos and for me it was much easier

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:28:20 2014 No.12150078

>>12150057
So that your carrier can still carry their weight without being burdened by green planes? I went through with 3BB3CV because I rather face 1BB at the submarine node than 2BB.

>>12150062
You may not be the guy who says that but I'm referring to >>12149954 who corrected himself at >>12149954 .

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:32:02 2014 No.12150089

>>12150049
Says you. I don't have a Yamato-class or Nagato. My Mutsu was level 1 when the event started and level 27 when it ended. (First round of 1-1 sparkle runs brought her to level 4.)

As for the other 2 BBs, I rotated the Kongous, 2 at a time.

>>12150054
Kaga gives me a lot of blue planes; not sure about Shoukaku but the number of greens she gave me was decent.

>>12150057
>>12150072
Welp, I don't know then. Though my carriers could consistently kill the weak mobs; maybe that's that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:33:02 2014 No.12150095 >>12150078 Fuck, I mean "corrected himself at >>12149958 "

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:33:25 2014 No.12150096 >>12150078 Ta-class were a non-issue. The problem was hitting the boss which was why the extra 2 BB day attacks and another BB night attack was a great help. After I went 4 BBs I even managed to kill everything except the princess on some occasions.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:34:36 2014 No.12150100 >>12150096 *in day battle

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:36:40 2014 No.12150109 >>12150096 I guess it was my luck then because BB on submarine node pretty much wreck my ships for some reason when I run 4BB, this is with Nagato and Kongous.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:38:05 2014 No.12150114 >>12150089 I spent good 30k on 3BB3CV. While having easy preboss was nice, it didn't stop my carriers from getting crit before they even had a chance to attack the boss, leaving me with only 1-2 active ships. You can guess how often they hit the boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:38:10 2014 No.12150115 File: 92 KB, 567x1004, 1396519445555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm fine with anything they throw at me except for Fall E-4 again or Elite/Flag Re-class. Scratch that. I might cheer if they let lowbies have a taste of Elite Re.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:39:40 2014 No.12150116 >>12150096 My carriers were getting wrecked by Tas and subs in that shitty south node.

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:40:29 2014 No.12150117

>>12150109
Heh, another reason why I ran 3 BBs 3 CVs. Torps' accuracy is shit with ring formation but there was a good chance of it hitting something with double line, even if the chance was not as high as in line ahead.

That said, the damage only really mattered if the torps did a critical hit.

>>12150114
Can't argue with RNG there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:42:49 2014 No.12150121 File: 79 KB, 989x557, 43740508.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150115 >I'm fine with anything they throw at me except for Fall E-4 again or Elite/Flag Re-class As you wish, now look forward to Re Kai.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:44:03 2014 No.12150125 >>12150115 Frankly, I will eat any shit the devs throw at me if and only if they don't bring back regenerating health gauge. That thing is bad for my mental health.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:44:12 2014 No.12150128 >>12150115 Don't worry, they'll be mostly day battles. >>12150121 Beat me to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:50:22 2014 No.12150143 There's really no reason for keeping the Type 2 Recon Aircraft is there?

Anonymous Tue May 27 14:51:34 2014 No.12150145

The problem I have with level scaling is it's so arbitrary. It worked back in Arpeggio, because it really catered to new players when the scaling maxed out at 45. But the difference between a level 80 player and veteran isn't much. It's easier than ever to collect rare ships and that matters far more than leveling. So why is it that leveling is the biggest contributor to HQ level?

I think scaling should be limited to early maps with simple rewards, like Amatsukaze. Then rather than scale according to level, which fewer and fewer active players will be low enough to meet, scale it to fleet quality. Introduce a system that grades equipment and ships and make the map reflect it. Keep compass requirements, don't factor in ship levels, and scale drop rates to discourage throwaway DD spam. New players will use what they've got while old players can dust off some favorites and not worry about stats. And then give every event a few extra operations with amazing rewards and no scaling to challenge everyone else. Not like Sakawa, but like Yamato. Also maybe add increased rates per low rarity craft to LSC so it's not as much bullshit to people who need a second chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:51:45 2014 No.12150148 File: 113 KB, 799x476, 1401207756388[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kasumi guy really never wavers.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:51:59 2014 No.12150150 >>12150143 Are you that tight on space?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:54:05 2014 No.12150157 >>12150150 50 or so free space.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 16:41:49 2014 No.12150410 Finally got my Z1. Now to craft Z3/Bismarck.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:04:03 2014 No.12150457 File: 504 KB, 787x469, Screenshot 2014-05-27 23.03.06.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ahh fucking come on now, 4-2. 8 Mutsu. 3 Akagi. 5 beaver. 450+ S-rank No zuihoe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:10:49 2014 No.12150469 >>12150457 To think I got that thing again from 2-5. Git gud.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:18:16 2014 No.12150479 >>12150457 Just try 5-4, they drop like candy there.

Anonymous Tue May 27 17:23:28 2014 No.12150484

>>12148060
Ok, what the hell, I finally gave 2-5 a try, using CAV, CA, 2 DD, 2 CVL, and get sent to the fucking Wo node and have to F5 so I don't lose a million bauxite. So much for compass rigging formation.

I guess I'll try CAV, CA, CL, 3 DD a try and if I get fucked over again I'll have to resort to 4 BB 2 CV or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:26:46 2014 No.12150494 >>12150148 I guess that's another way to attempt for an S rank other than with Isuzu + 4 Kongous + Taihou.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:27:56 2014 No.12150498 >>12150484 With 2 CVLs I can get air superiority at the Wo node, and I won't lose much bauxite either. Git gud.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:28:55 2014 No.12150501 >>12150484 Wouldn't it be easier to just abandon the CVLs for more CA/Vs or KTKM and Ooi? The north route night node is nothing to fear on this map.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:30:12 2014 No.12150504 >>12150484 With that formation it just has a chance to go to the blue node, it's not fixed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:30:57 2014 No.12150509 >>12150501 Is that really the case? That Kai CA seems intimidating to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:33:25 2014 No.12150514 >>12150509 I've had to retreat due it once so far. It could just be my luck showing. I binged on some LSC the other day so didn't bother farming for Urakaze yet; got my medal and got out of there.

Anonymous Tue May 27 17:37:09 2014 No.12150524

>>12150498
>>12150504
Obviously I didn't bother bringing enough air superiority for the Wo node because I thought it was 100% to the blue node as the post I quoted suggested. What's the fucking point of using 2 CA(V)/2DD/2CVL anyway then if it doesn't guarantee missing the Wo node?

>>12150501
I was originally going to run 4 CA(V)/2 CLT but I decided instead to go with what I (mistakenly) thought was a compass-guaranteeing formation.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:41:54 2014 No.12150535 >>12149424 Is that 360 LOS with or without equipment? I'm confused at the required LOS in that map

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:44:51 2014 No.12150547 >>12150524 Maybe your effective LOS not enough? I used 4 CA(V)s 2 CVs, tanked the Wo node, S ranked the boss node and got an Urakaze. Still the only time I made it to the boss node so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:45:06 2014 No.12150549 >>12150535 Just bring a lot of LoS equipment.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:45:25 2014 No.12150550 >>12150535 Equipment LoS must be >50.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:48:17 2014 No.12150562 >>12150535 see >>12148973

Anonymous Tue May 27 17:50:18 2014 No.12150567

>>12150056
Just watched the video. And I must say: Dear god, the lag. Even at its worst my laptop never lagged that much, and certainly not for a half hour stretch.

>I guess you must be lucky as hell if what happened to me at 12min of the vid seldomly happen to you.
Well, first things first:
>not whole fleet sparkled
There's your problem.

For the run in question, Mutsu and Yamato were the only ones with sparkles; they ended up remaining in green health at the end while everyone else got crit to red. For the second run, well, those without sparkles still suffered some.

Back when I was a noob I used damecons to clear 4-4 and 5-2, but they were usually wasted; I wouldn't be able to clear the map anyway. Now that I'm wiser and more inexperienced, using damecons actually seems to have a more positive effect. Both times a damecon was used up in E5, I dealt severe damage to the boss (one of the sinks and one of the 300+ damage runs IIRC).

Of course, it helped that I made sure that all my ships (both main and expedition) were sparkled before I sent them out. When I first started E5 I had around 10 hours left before the event ended (I spent a long while hoarding resources as well as preparing sparkles for a mega push on E4 and E5 on the final day; I'm the anon who cleared E4 without using a single bucket); I cleared E5 with 2 hours to spare. I made sure to resparkle any and all ships that lost their sparkles; sparkling took up more than half of my 8 hours (one particular sparkling session took up almost 2 hours), but the end result was well worth it.

The wikia community may be shit, but some of their advice is sound. At least, "always, ALWAYS sparkle your fleet for E5" certainly was.

Anonymous Tue May 27 17:51:21 2014 No.12150572

>>12150567
(continued)
As for your equipment... you only really needed 7 strong green planes to get air superiority at the boss node. You had 8. An extra attack from Akagi could have helped a bit some. (Eg. Reppu/Reppu/Reppu/Suisei 12A on Taihou, Shiden Kai 2/Ryuusei Kai/Reppu/damecon on Akagi, Shiden Kai 2/Ryuusei Kai/Reppu Kai/damecon on Kaga would have given you 367 air power; boss node needed 320.)

No Taihou here, so I used Shoukaku instead; I realised that I didn't dare to advance past the second node if she was in red and only had one damecon (one of my 6 retreats was because of this), so I stacked two on her instead. It worked for the most part; Akagi and Kaga didn't get crit to red too often.

Finally, you only really needed one expedition to the boss node; it sometimes oneshot the weak targets, and when it didn't, it usually took more than half their HP, making it easier for me to kill them and harder for them to severely damage my ships. Non-boss support didn't help me much against the BB hime, and my fleet was strong enough that the other nodes didn't bother them much either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:51:58 2014 No.12150573 Okay, so for some easy, north route 5-4 farming, what would you bring on top of 2CV + 1 drummer CAV? 3CLT? 3CA with DA setup?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:53:38 2014 No.12150578 >>12150567 Wikia retards don't bother to sparkle. That's jap voodoo magick.

Anonymous Tue May 27 17:56:01 2014 No.12150587

>>12150547
LOS has nothing to do with it (and I have plenty of that anyway); my problem isn't reaching the boss node, it's taking an unwanted route to get there. I didn't want to run 4 CA(V)/2 CLT and have to fight the Wo with no carriers or F5 every time I get sent south.

I switched to CAV, CA, CL, 3DD and got to boss node fine, but then wound up with 3 ships hit to red (Beaver gets hit to 1 hp by the fucking CL) and and the Ta ends up the only survivor as orange-hp Choukai can't do enough damage to kill it. Well, at least that counts for the daily.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:58:32 2014 No.12150597 >Now that I'm wiser and more inexperienced Umm, is that a typo?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:58:57 2014 No.12150599 >>12150587 Well, I still think it's better to just tank the Wo node. No dead end bullshit, no night battle node bullshit, so it's actually not too bad of a route.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 17:59:58 2014 No.12150603 >>12150597 Sorry, yeah. Meant more experienced.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:08:20 2014 No.12150623 File: 714 KB, 288x162, rip shimakaze.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150549 >>12150550 >>12150562 T-thanks oniichan. Time to do 2-5 again.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:14:36 2014 No.12150634

>>12150599
Well I might have to do that, further attempts at north route with 1 CL and 3 DD result in Beaver constantly getting hit to red by elite CA double attacks (flagship CA always misses, go figure)

>>12150573
I run it with a fast BB, a CA, CAV Tone with 1 drum, Jintsuu with 3 drums, 2 CV.

>>12150567
I had zero trouble with E-5 with no sparkles other than ones gained from MVP'ing (Yamato was pretty much permanently sparkled). Used Yamato, Nagato, Mutsu, 3 CV, boss support. Once I switched to line aboob for Hime node instead of double line I made it past her about 70% of the time instead of 10% of the time as my ships would usually get hit to orange or I'd dodge both her attacks. Killed the boss outright about half the time I reached her, chipped her to varying degrees every other time.

If sparkling really had been necessary I wouldn't have even touched the map, fuck wasting hours running 1-1, I don't even do it for expeditions other than #16.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:15:33 2014 No.12150637 >>12150634 Why bring BB?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:17:35 2014 No.12150640 >>12150634 > 1 CL and 3 DD You could take some CA(v)'s instead of DDs.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:17:55 2014 No.12150641

>>12150578
>Wikia retards don't bother to sparkle. That's jap voodoo magick.
But that's wrong.

Doing a quick search on the Spring 2014 event page:

>It is strongly recommended to sparkle your entire fleet, boosting your evasion against Battleship Princess in E node and the boss node.
This is from a wikia tip for E5.
>Sparkle before you sortie for increased evasion.
And this from E4.

From wikia comments:
>SPARKLE! If you wanna clear this shit, sparkle everyone without exception.
>and yes, sparkling all of your ships is not even a 'recommended' - it's a 'must'.
>i recommend you should sparkle every single ship before e5 sortie. Your evasion would increase by quite a lot, which would potentially help you to evade battleship himes attack.
>Also, yes. love of god, this is the 1st time i've sparkled my ships every. single. time.
Comments for E5.

>Take your time to sparkle your ships in 1-1 solo. You'll save hours of time and some buckets doing this.
>Are you sparkling your ships? Normally I don't bother but I've found that this is one map where it makes a huge difference.
>comment on E4, one that others have said previously, but bears repeating: SPARKLE!
Comments for E4.

In fact, one of the very few people on the wikia who didn't sparkle his fleet for E5, Zoidiect, was chastised by everyone for it.
>Zoidiect, you really should sparkle. I know it's annoying, but do it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:20:19 2014 No.12150645 Well, I don't sparkle and I have no issue clearing maps. If it takes more runs, so be it. But running 1-1 too many times would rub me at wrong places.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:26:52 2014 No.12150656

>>12150567
The lag is most likely a patch thing. Right after the 4/23 patch, the game will start lagging after you play for a short period of time(half an hour maybe), and they fixed that in a few days.

I did sparkle my fleet when I was doing Fall E-4 and E-5, and it might help in some degree, but when I was farming E-5 for Yahagi without sparking, I found that these isn't such big difference, so I stopped sparkle for hard map from then on.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:28:10 2014 No.12150659 I thought everyone in /jp/ have installed Wikia Comment Quality Improver script. What happened?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:28:34 2014 No.12150661 Shirohime Quest is the fucking new big shit, KANCOLLE IS DEAD.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:29:19 2014 No.12150664

>>12150501
>>12150509
>>12150514
>>12150587
>>12150599
>>12150634

The Flag Ri Kai in the 2-5 night battle node isn't too bad. I've been farming with 1CL 2CAV 3DD since 2 days ago and most of the time my DDs were able to tank her cut-in at light or medium damage. And the Elite Ri were jokes with their scratch damage double attack for like 95% of the time. I only had to retreat about 20% of the time at the night battle node, which is only as about as bad as being sent home by Flag Ru.

Though I'd agree that this composition is not for everyone. You need a very high level fleet in order to perform well using the north route. So if you don't have that to back you up, just stick to the south route.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:30:00 2014 No.12150665

>>12150637
Because CAs don't reliably kill the BBs at boss node in day combat, especially if you get 80% damage engagement, and with 2 CV and a drum ship you risk your S rank going into night battle with too many enemies alive.

Maybe if I used blue planes on my carriers instead of reds I could get away with only CAs, but then I'm burning more bauxite in exchange for saving fuel and ammo.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:31:33 2014 No.12150669 >>12150661 Release date never.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:32:02 2014 No.12150671 >>12150665 That depends on your CAs I guess, I kill everything during day battle 85% of the time with 2CV 1drummer CAV, 1CLT, 2CA for double attack (2*3gou + sanshiki + type0)

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:33:50 2014 No.12150675

>>12150664
>And the Elite Ri were jokes with their scratch damage double attack for like 95% of the time

Well, the RNG really fucking hates me then. I don't remember having that much trouble with them on 5-3 either, but now that's the only thing that's wrecking me.

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:36:11 2014 No.12150681

>>12150634
>I had zero trouble with E-5 with no sparkles other than ones gained from MVP'ing (Yamato was pretty much permanently sparkled).
If it worked for you then all's good, I guess. It's just that for most people sparkling does make a positive difference.
>line aboob for Hime node
Most interesting. Maybe that made up for the lack of sparkles.
>Killed the boss outright about half the time I reached her
Damn, that's lucky.

>>12150656
Never received the lag at all. Just about the only issue I had with it was that torps now take a longer time to reach its target in the animation.

Regarding the sparkles, I did notice a difference for myself, but it could very well be placebo. Has there been any new information on wikiwiki regarding sparkle experiments?

>>12150664
Fuck the night battle node, I got crit to red at the first node because of the resultant torpedo phase. And I can't even say I hate RNG though because my only boss drop was Urakaze.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:37:38 2014 No.12150685 >>12150640 The whole point of 1 CL + 3 DD is 100% north route.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:38:30 2014 No.12150689 >>12150634 >fuck wasting hours running 1-1, Fucking finally. My nigga

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:40:14 2014 No.12150694 >>12150681 >Has there been any new information on wikiwiki regarding sparkle experiments? I think there's no thorough research for that so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:40:16 2014 No.12150695 >>12150659 What's that? I just adblocked the fuck ouf of the comment section.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:42:20 2014 No.12150702 >>12150535 with equipment, I tested going at 359 and no boss node. maybe I'm wrong but 40/40 run always reached boss node when I have minimum 360 LOS using north route..

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:47:16 2014 No.12150711 File: 255 KB, 593x885, after17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150695

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:47:22 2014 No.12150713 具体的な数値は不明だが、艦娘の索敵より装備の索敵の方が効果が高い模様 2014春イベント同様に単純な合計値ではない。以下の数式が現在の有力説。 (偵察機の索敵値×2)+(電探の索敵値)+√(左記以外の索敵値) ≧ 76 Just equip damn recon planes if you can't reach boss node.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:49:14 2014 No.12150717 >>12150711 What is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:49:23 2014 No.12150718 >>12150711 What the fuck? >>12150713 And they think we aren't doing that already?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:51:13 2014 No.12150723 >>12150718 Equip more.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:54:22 2014 No.12150727 >>12150723 >√ lel

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:55:38 2014 No.12150729 >>12150727 ^0.5 would be better?

Anonymous Tue May 27 18:56:42 2014 No.12150731

>>12150681
I think we were discussing about what make up the difficulty of E-5, and then we start talking about sparkle.

Anyway, my point is, with a few damecons available, the BB hime in the second node won't deny me for much, but the BB hime in the boss node really make me(and maybe some well known yoshiyoshi Japanese player) suffer, a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 18:56:56 2014 No.12150733 >>12150717 >>12150718 http://userscripts.org:8080/scripts/show/427616 You're welcome.

Anonymous Tue May 27 19:10:25 2014 No.12150744

>>12150713
Well, the most useful thing there for me is the knowledge that recon planes count for twice as much as radar. I wasn't having any problem anyway though just sticking T33 on my DDs, Yamato plane on CL/CA, Zuiun/Seiran on CAV, and a T32 on CA.

If I decide to go back to the CVL method at least I know now whether I need Saiuns or not.

>>12150731
The funny thing is, for me the biggest problem at boss node was actually my ships wasting their attacks on Wake during day combat and not killing anything else (and then targeting the others at night). Once you chipped Hime to yellow she couldn't shield Wake anymore anyway, then it's just a matter of RNG making you target her directly.

Anonymous Tue May 27 19:37:59 2014 No.12150790

>>12150731
Maybe it was just me, but didn't damecons make killing the boss harder?
On BBs it either meant you have to forfeit either the scout plane or the type 3, either which heavily impacts their damage output.

As for the CVs... I don't know how amazing Taihou is, but if I had to put damecon on both Kaga and Akagi it would've meant no air superiority on the boss node. Well, you can with 3 CVs, but that means you'd be left with 3BBs, 2 of which with either no scout planes or no type 3s.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 19:45:06 2014 No.12150802 >>12150729 ^.5 for what √ != ^.5

Anonymous Tue May 27 19:57:02 2014 No.12150826

>>12150790
I use 3BB3CV, and put Mutsu as flagship, no damecon on BBs. The weakest Mutsu is well protected by two hotels and 3 CVs which are not used for dealing damage. I can easily reach boss node 19 times out of 20 attempts, and enter night battle with less than 3 target left most of the time. Never try 4BB2CV because of the troll sub.

And in terms of air superiority, Taihou might be slightly better than Aakagi and Shokakus, but won't make much difference. Kaga is the best one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:19:29 2014 No.12150873 >>12150826 I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5. I only had Musashi and it absolutely befuddled me why people would want to bring 3 crit magnets to that map.

Anonymous Tue May 27 20:21:38 2014 No.12150877

So restarting a new legit account. Meaning no scripting or whatever. Restarting reminded me of how annoying the early stages of the game can be. Banned cause of that KCT shit, but that's besides the question I'm about to ask.

Do any of you still get error-ko from a returning expedition? Like when that notification that the fleet has returned on the main screen appears, I get error-ko'd for about 1-2 minutes. I get error-ko'd on browsers, standalone flashplayer, and KCV.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:24:26 2014 No.12150884 >>12150877 No. Just you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:29:31 2014 No.12150907 >>12150802 how are they any different ?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:31:13 2014 No.12150915 >>12150877 You too? It's been happening to me a lot on KCV recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:43:15 2014 No.12150952 >>12150915 >>12150877 whats the scenario for you guys? I'm using KCV as well but whenever I get error girl my wifi got disconnected.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 20:45:45 2014 No.12150963 >>12150915 >>12150952 For me it's just I click on the notification, and then error-ko. I refresh, the notification is still there, but if i click it again, it get error-ko'd yet again. This goes on unless I wait a few minutes or so before clicking.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 21:01:58 2014 No.12151005 >>12150952 Same as >>12150963 and also in other instances where the game loads before changing to a new screen like in sorties

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 21:10:56 2014 No.12151032 >>12150877 Still scripting and no neko, git gud

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 21:14:08 2014 No.12151042 >>12150877 Try clearing cache?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 21:15:25 2014 No.12151043 >>12150484 Because you aren't supposed to bring 2 CVLs you retard

Anonymous Tue May 27 22:08:04 2014 No.12151179

>>12150873
I only had Yamato and it was perfectly fine, Mutsu and Nagato get critted by the Hime just as easily as the carriers anyway. Taihou was the biggest crit magnet, always getting hit to red while Zuikaku (the carrier I wouldn't have been using with 4BB/2CV) always only got hit to orange.

>>12151043
Try reading the fucking post I was responding to, retard.

Anonymous Tue May 27 22:13:21 2014 No.12151189

>>12151032
My scripts have a delay of 3 minutes after fleets return, to compensate for that.
So it would be 2-3-5, 33 minutes to check and to refuel, then 2-3 expedition, 33 minutes wait, refuel. I have never gotten a neko or a ban until I accidentally left KCTool up because I was checking construction for LSC. I'm not talking about scripting or anything like that. I'm asking if people still get a error-ko screen after clicking their expedition notification afterwards.
Unless you actually have a script that'll resortie with no delay asides from refueling and expedition choosing factors, your post has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

>>12151042
Did, several times. Seems like it's just server sided for API. Could be proxy issues when using browser non-api.
Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 23:47:26 2014 No.12151360 >>12151189 If you're using KCV then try looking at your error log to see what's the problem.

Anonymous Wed May 28 00:54:19 2014 No.12151527

>>12150484

Well that at least conforms the part that says E > H path isn't 100% thing.

Was it a one time thing for you? Or did you not bother with it afterwards. Would like to know if it's a once in a blue moon thing like drifting to node E in 5-3 using branching comp, or if the chance is more random than it was suggested.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 01:08:20 2014 No.12151553 File: 108 KB, 750x368, E5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150873 >I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5. Nope. Just guts and patience.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 02:46:32 2014 No.12151718 How do you guys deal with fatigue when grinding 3-2? Do you just wait it out?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 02:49:54 2014 No.12151720 >>12151718 Are you talking about the hyper grind? Just keep going. Your MVP probably wont reach fatigue at all, and all that matters is your cvls do well during the air phase, and have enough accuracy to eliminate the rest.

Anonymous Wed May 28 02:50:24 2014 No.12151722
File: 487 KB, 800x480, Spring '14 E5 CLEAR!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>12150731
Yeah, I guess we sidetracked a bit.

I guess different people experience different brickwalls because RNG.

>>12150873
>I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5.
Ohai.
I just so happen to be this guy:
>>12150010
>>12150089
Mind you, Mutsu's still unremodelled, and Shoukaku's still in her 30s.)

>>12150907
√ is clearer and less confusing than ^0.5.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 02:51:36 2014 No.12151723 >>12151718 Prepare two to three fleets worth and rotate them after every sortie.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 02:56:14 2014 No.12151727 >>12151720 How do you increase accuracy anyways? Just leveling?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 02:58:59 2014 No.12151731 >>12151727 Equip yellow guns, and have them be around 30-40. I do it at 20 though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:01:57 2014 No.12151736 >>12151731 So, I should use 1BB, 3CVL,1 SS + flagship I want to level for grinding?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:02:56 2014 No.12151741 >>12151722 >>12151553 Did you bring 3CVs because you don't have enough Reppus?

>>	夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE Wed May 28 03:05:24 2014 No.12151745 >>12151718 Bring a ship that you want to level, 1 dummy SS, and 4 CV/CVL and equip them with torps. I personally recommend 5-4-A because the exp gain is much better.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:06:26 2014 No.12151747 >>12151741 Nope. I wrote >>12150078 for my reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:07:35 2014 No.12151750 >>12151741 No, it's to avoid the southern preboss node, and it's also so that all my ships are able to attack in the day.

Anonymous Wed May 28 03:08:15 2014 No.12151751

>>12151736
Well, the way the guy does it is he uses either 1 BB/BBV/CA/CAV as flagship to level them up.
Then slaps on 3-5 cvls with 1 dive bomber on each, and the rest of the slots filled with yellow guns, and one of the CVLs running a Saiun. It all depends on what he's trying to level up though.
If he wants to level up a BB, he keeps it as flagship, and stocks 3-5 CVLs, SS optional.
If he wants to level up a CA/CAV, he'll bring either a team of CA/CAVs with zuiuns so they don't out damage the flagship CA/CAV. Again, SS optional.
Not sure how he goes about leveling up DDs/CLs. Though classes that can equip recon planes are able to hyper level at 3-2-1.
The goal is to get your flagship MVP, so you get 1,152 or something EXP per sortie, and farm as long as you have resources.

Anonymous Wed May 28 03:09:32 2014 No.12151753

>>12151736
If you want them to consistently score MvP, it should be:
Flagship (with double/cut-in attack setup if applicable, or just with the best equipment you can manage)
1 SS
1 BBV (3 recon planes and 1 bomber)
And like... 3 DDs, or CLs but without recon planes.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:19:58 2014 No.12151773 >>12151751 >Though classes that can equip recon planes are able to hyper level at 3-2-1. Can you explain this more?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:22:07 2014 No.12151775 >>12151773 easy mvp.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:25:58 2014 No.12151780 >>12151773 Daytime double attack. Means they deal double damage so they're more likely to get MVP.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:31:24 2014 No.12151785 File: 525 KB, 899x2103, 1401255614049.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That's an interesting route.

Anonymous Wed May 28 03:31:29 2014 No.12151786

>>12151773
New recon plane mechanic.
Any ship that has a recon plane in 3-2-1 should be able to proc a CI/DA.
Like the Sendai Class or the Nagara class.
The only CL classes/ships that can't equip seaplanes are the Tenryuu, Kuma Torpedo, Yuubari, and Izusu Kai Ni.
So you can still hyper level up say, Sendai or Naka in 3-2-1 efficiently.

DD's can't, nor can SS obviously. SSV can equip recon planes, but it's stupid to do anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:33:16 2014 No.12151790 >>12151785 >3 CAVs My Mikuma and Kumano are still a long way away.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:38:59 2014 No.12151795 >>12151785 You will get that route if you're going for 2CAV, 2CA and 2CLT as well. It's pretty rare though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:40:20 2014 No.12151797 I know this is a stupid question, but what does luck stats do again?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:41:46 2014 No.12151798 >>12151797 Most obvious effect? The higher the luck, the higher chances of getting a cut-in which is extremely powerful.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:50:34 2014 No.12151805 >>12151797 Increases chance of getting rare ships and equips as drops or crafts.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 03:54:29 2014 No.12151813 File: 201 KB, 1500x1500, 1394799866086.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151797 Total fleet luck >= 200, you can get to boss unscathed.

>>	夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE Wed May 28 03:55:56 2014 No.12151816 >>12151785 I don't think it will pass the gold Ru node effectively. 50% survival rate, I'd say. >>12151797 Luck increases critical hit chance. Trust me, I played enough MMO.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:00:09 2014 No.12151824 >>12151816 If you sparkle the fleet it's 80% of the time. Worth the trouble considering one run only costs around 150~180 oil/ammo (that's including night battle on boss node).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:00:18 2014 No.12151825 How likely is it for the rest of Myoukou class to get k2's?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:02:46 2014 No.12151826 >>12151825 At this point, pretty damn likely. They're passing over the more popular ships that have a kai-ni in pretty damn high demand. I.e Haruna and Sendai.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:03:31 2014 No.12151828 File: 110 KB, 879x274, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151825 It's pretty much guaranteed.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:07:42 2014 No.12151834 >>12151826 >Sendai Is Sendai really that high demand? When people talk CL, they think of Agano class, Isuzu and Yubari and even Nagara.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:08:55 2014 No.12151835 >>12151834 >Isuzu Yeah right

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:11:24 2014 No.12151840 >>12151835 Think Izusu has decent ASW

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:11:40 2014 No.12151841 >>12151834 I think when people talk about the Agano class, they mostly talk about how much resources they've spent obtaining them as opposed to how much they want them to get K2'd.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:13:05 2014 No.12151842 >>12151841 >>12151835 Whoops, what I meant was popularity. Then again, Naka got her Kai2.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:14:25 2014 No.12151844 File: 421 KB, 693x383, Screen Shot 2014-05-28 at 4.13.51 pm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my fleet pls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:15:49 2014 No.12151846 >>12151834 Yuubari is the best CL Naka the most infamous While Isuzu is everyone babby first CL until they get Yuubari Agano are just trophies and dock cheerleader that will never be sortied.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:16:59 2014 No.12151849 >>12151842 That was to commemorate "2-4-11 of Love" being approved for Joysound. Naka also had her own themed dish in the Kancolle cafe.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:17:49 2014 No.12151851 >>12151842 Naka has her fans

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:19:15 2014 No.12151853 >>12151835 >what are Isuzu farms

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:19:55 2014 No.12151854 >>12151844 D, C, A, C, AA, F Wouldn't the average be C?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:21:35 2014 No.12151857 >>12151844 What's the context?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:22:09 2014 No.12151860 >>12151854 lol yeah I used to have wakaba and shimakaze

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:23:11 2014 No.12151861 >>12151857 Can this get through 4-3?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:26:10 2014 No.12151863 File: 111 KB, 682x328, 2014-05-28 11-24-49.984.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my fleet pls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:27:40 2014 No.12151866 >>12151861 Have you read the branching rules?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:28:19 2014 No.12151867 >>12151863 1/0 will not duel

Anonymous Wed May 28 04:30:47 2014 No.12151868

>>12151834
Most people expected Sendai cause of that whole third sister thing.
And 2/3 Sendai Class have Kai Ni, like 3/4 Kongou class have Kai Ni.

Agano class is already pretty damn strong. Plus they're more of a novelty class anyway.
Nagara class only has Izusu and Abukuma that are actually popular. Most of the other Nagara class members are overlooked or passed over.Hell, most of the Kuma class are more popular than the Nagara class. Kuma herself is more popular than Nagara.
Yuubari is only popular because she's the best at ASW. I'd rather use Naka Kai with a Seaplane equipped, then Yuubari at all. And I fucking hate Naka.

>>12151846
>Yuubari is the best CL
Poor evasion, poor armor, average firepower even with her 4 slots, average torp damage, decent AA, low LOS, decent luck, poor health, can't equip seaplanes. Might as well use Kuma-kai instead of Yuubari.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:33:19 2014 No.12151874 >>12151863 10/10, would torp again.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:33:27 2014 No.12151875 >>12150457 8 this month at 5-4, 95% A/B ranks

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:34:24 2014 No.12151876 File: 557 KB, 599x428, tmp_78bac3c2-1652951839.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151868 Quit talking shit about mai waifu and her delicious melony navel

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:36:40 2014 No.12151879 >>12151868 Yuubari still has the highest ASW, and that's the main purpose of CL anyway. Besides, she's popular for the character, too. The seaplane update did change things a bit, but that's just a recent thing.

Anonymous Wed May 28 04:40:12 2014 No.12151884

>>12151868
>Poor evasion
Placebo

>Poor armor
Doesnt mean shit.
For this game, armor fall into BB class and non BB class.

>average firepower
Doesnt mean shit, Yuubari still rekt shit at night which is all that matter.

>average torp damage
Anyone bar the lucky DD and CLT have no use for torpedo.

>decent AA
And?

>low LOS
And?

>poor health
See armor. DD and CL all get 1shotted by TA and Re. It doesnt mean anything

>can't equip seaplanes.
Are you seriously bringing CL to double attack?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:43:24 2014 No.12151889 >>12151785 Where do these people get all those type 32/33 radars?!?!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:48:30 2014 No.12151897 >>12151785 Is this 100%? 2DD 3CAV CVL Is there a min LoS that I should aim for?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:48:34 2014 No.12151898 >>12151863 epeen/10

Anonymous Wed May 28 04:53:28 2014 No.12151901

>>12151876
She's pretty oily.

Though Kalahari melon oil is good for your skin, supposedly.

>>12151879
Of course. Not disputing that, but outside sub hunting, she has no real use except for waifu appeal. Nor does she deserve the title of 'Best CL'.

>>12151884
>Placebo
Hah.
>Doesn't mean shit
Hah
>Doesn't mean shit, Yuubari still rekt shit at night which is all that matter
IF she survived, then sure.
>Anyone bar the lucky DD and CLT have no use for torpedo
Of course. Which is why I would rather use a CLT over Yuubari anyway.
>And?
Nothing. She has decent AA. Nothing to comment or debate on.
>low LOS
Enjoy having a blind waifu.
>See armor
I still would rather see a CL survive more in other places.
>Are you seriously bringing CL to double attack
Why not?
I don't see how your post proves that Yuubari is the best CL. Only usage for her is sub warfare.If you want to have her be the best CL in your mind, then fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:59:04 2014 No.12151905 File: 73 KB, 370x316, 1401266138830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like it's time for LSC, anyone want to recommend a Yamato recipe to me?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 04:59:49 2014 No.12151907 >>12151901 >she has no real use except for waifu appeal Who is going to carry those drums for those Tokyo Tokyo Express expeditions anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:00:23 2014 No.12151908 >>12151905 7000/7000/7000/7000/100

Anonymous Wed May 28 05:03:15 2014 No.12151911

>>12151897

At least 95% if not 100%, which is good enough imo.

LoS wise,
Just equip a seaplane + best radar you have on all your CAVs plus a Saiun on the CVL and you should be fine. If that still doesn't work, then replace a CAVs' radar with a second seaplane.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:06:08 2014 No.12151915 File: 547 KB, 1614x1526, 1399524301611.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151905

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:08:25 2014 No.12151918 >>12151901 CLT != CL In map where are you need CL, Yuubari is clearly the bet. See 5-3, 4-4 and 5-4.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:10:15 2014 No.12151922 >>12151918 CL for 4-4? Since when?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:11:06 2014 No.12151924 >>12151918 None of those maps really needs a CL, and what do you even bring a CL to 5-4 for?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:13:24 2014 No.12151927 >>12151924 I have a feeling it's for the drums.. lol

>>	夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE Wed May 28 05:17:19 2014 No.12151930 >>12151905 Depends on your resources and desire sensor. >>12151924 He's probably referring to drum carrier where CAVs are better alternative.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:17:22 2014 No.12151931 >>12151927 Ah, forgot about those since I use a CAV for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:24:19 2014 No.12151939 >>12151930 >>12151915 >>12151908 2 attempts at 6000/5000/7000/2000/20 : 1 Kongou, and 1 Ise. I guess my desire wasn't at the right level.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:28:19 2014 No.12151942 File: 1.33 MB, 800x450, 1399647964980.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151905

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:33:38 2014 No.12151946 >>12151939 It's ok, I'm sure you'll get your Yamato while XLSCing for Starship Enterprise.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:34:25 2014 No.12151947 >>12151942 Fuck you. I got another Ise.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:35:36 2014 No.12151948 >>12151947 nice rng

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:43:36 2014 No.12151951 >>12151922 For the trollsub. Of course you can ignore it and just get A rank.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 05:51:06 2014 No.12151954 >>12151951 I prefer using the 2 obligatory DDs for ASW duty.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 07:38:28 2014 No.12152047 >>12151901 CLs' only edge over CAs is sub hunting; anything else CAs can do better. Hence, when they compare CLs they only compare their ability to kill subs. And Yuubari is the best at killing subs.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 07:40:32 2014 No.12152050 >>12151861 You need 2 CAs. >>12151863 Context?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 09:30:41 2014 No.12152113 Is there a name for the 5-5-A D rank grinding?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 09:35:04 2014 No.12152115 >>12152113 timeru wasteru

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 09:37:14 2014 No.12152117 >>12152113 Kika.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:03:08 2014 No.12152136 I hate LSC.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:09:36 2014 No.12152142 File: 81 KB, 532x315, 1394824632803.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152136

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:14:56 2014 No.12152145 >>12152142 But I graduated from LSC already Took less than 40 total tries for everything (Bismarck, Yamato, Taihou, Yahagi, Mikuma, Zunships, Maruyus)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:16:00 2014 No.12152147 >>12152145 12 Zun ships, Musashi?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:16:56 2014 No.12152150 >>12152147 >Musashi >LSC Not yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:16:56 2014 No.12152151 >>12152145 I still haven't gotten any of them. Fuck this game. Fuck you. Fuck everyone.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:17:01 2014 No.12152152 >>12152145 You're never free because they will add new ships.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:22:30 2014 No.12152158 >>12152152 Bets on Shioi and Musashi being added to LSC

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:29:49 2014 No.12152165 >>12152145 Graduated with tons of resources. I only do PVP nowadays while waiting for Midway. Dead game Dead thread

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:39:20 2014 No.12152176 >>12152145 I graduated within 20 tries and Musashi came from Fall event. Now I try to play as little as possible so my resources don't hit the 300k limit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:21:08 2014 No.12152223 Why is leveling ships so annoying?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:26:08 2014 No.12152226 >>12152223 Because love in general is annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:28:11 2014 No.12152229 File: 150 KB, 793x470, 2-5 ez.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151911 Nice. So what were the exact requirement? The exact 3CAV 2DD 1CVL? Can I play around with the # of CAV?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:31:23 2014 No.12152232 >>12152229 You can do 2CAV 2DD 2CVL. I don't think you can reduce it to any lower than that. 1CAV/1CA and you'll be going Wo. 2CAV 2DD 1BB 1CVL also takes you to Wo.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:34:05 2014 No.12152236 >>12152232 So 2CAV 2DD 1CVL + ? Does CLT works? BB and CV is no good eh?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:34:50 2014 No.12152238 File: 337 KB, 800x500, 1400229390254.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2chan

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:36:39 2014 No.12152239 >>12152238 >2chan You mean Futaba.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:37:10 2014 No.12152240 >>12152236 I never tried CLT. It might work, since they do count as "medium sized ships". BB/CV means Wo node. I dunno about BBVs but I presume it'd be the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 11:51:14 2014 No.12152258 >>12152226 You don't deserve your girls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:20:15 2014 No.12152308 File: 85 KB, 691x411, maruyus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wait wut Maruyu kai only gives +1luck?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:22:59 2014 No.12152311 >>12152308 read the wiki

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:25:17 2014 No.12152316 >>12152311 I don't want to.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:25:57 2014 No.12152318 >>12152316 illiterate fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:29:24 2014 No.12152323 >>12152308 1.6*3=4.8 So you might get 4 or 5

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:30:49 2014 No.12152329 >>12152323 or you can get 6 if you're feeling lucky

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:32:19 2014 No.12152334 >>12152323 I thought it was random as well but in the screen it went from 7->10. I was worried that they changed it to a fix +1 value.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:35:50 2014 No.12152345 >>12152308 Just modernized my Taihou myself, she's a proper CV now.

Anonymous Wed May 28 12:44:21 2014 No.12152354

>>12152229

Actually, one thing that slipped my mind when I replied >>12151897, is that on top of having at least 2DD in the fleet, you also cannot have more than 2 of either CA or CAV, meaning you can have 2CA 2CAV but not 3CA 1CAV or 1CA 3CAV, or it becomes random Wo node.

And according to latest update, it also seems that you cannot have less than either 2CA or 2CAV.

So it would seem 2DD + 2CA/2CAV is the exact requirement for 95% chance to skip the Wo.

>>12152236

I used to think CLT can cause random Wo, but after the discovery of the 2CA/2CAV part that was mentioned above, I'm not so sure anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:47:17 2014 No.12152355 >>12152354 Wait what? 3CAV is random? I should change it to 1CA+2CAV+1CVL?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:48:36 2014 No.12152356 >>12152329 Only if you modernise 1 by 1. Or 2, then 1.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:49:51 2014 No.12152359 >>12152355 I think you need to bring 2DD for a guarantee non-wo route.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:54:02 2014 No.12152366 >>12152355 Pretty much. Either 1CA 2CAV 2DD 1CVL or 2CA 1CAV 2DD 1CVL. Based on information so far, the absolute minimum for 95% BEHL route is - 1CVL to go south - 2DD - 2CA OR 2CAV

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 13:11:20 2014 No.12152383 >>12152308 >feeding Maruyus to any carrier

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 13:22:25 2014 No.12152398 >>12152383 Anything to prevent them from getting one-shot to red.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 13:22:36 2014 No.12152399 >>12152383 I feed my Taihou with Maruyus for placebos and shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 13:24:18 2014 No.12152401 >>12152398 >>12152399 That's assuming luck does anything other than improving night battle's cut-in attack chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 13:25:01 2014 No.12152402 >>12152401 Faith plays a big role in this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 14:00:44 2014 No.12152452 First time in a 100 t-levels to get melon from all-30's Who'd have thought

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 14:44:09 2014 No.12152535 >>12152402 Frustration and desire are more important. The higher their level is, the harder RNG fuckery you receive.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 15:06:44 2014 No.12152564 File: 252 KB, 670x770, 20140528130110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What a heroine.

Anonymous Wed May 28 15:12:26 2014 No.12152574

>>12152232
>>12152354
Well fuck, that explains why I got sent Wo when I tried 2 DD and 2 CVL with Tone and Choukai, I assumed 2 CA(V) posted before meant CA and CAV were interchangeable, not 2 of one OR 2 of the other. At least now I can go back to trying south route instead of suffering the night battle node (and first node CLTs) with 1 CL 3 DD formation. I guess now I'll go 2 CA and maybe grind my Chikuma in flagship slot after all.

>>12151918
She's definitely the best choice for 5-3 because she can equip 2 guns and 2 ASW, I had to switch to her for my final kill (instead of 6 DD).

For 5-4 I use Jintsuu as my drum carrier with the last drum in Tone's 4th slot, she has just 2 less armor and 5 less firepower than Mogami-class with half the cost, and she's even slightly cheaper than Yuubari. And her 98 torpedo actually can kill something off at boss node before night combat.

>>12151884
Do you seriously think armor means nothing? Sure, all CLs will get wrecked by flagship BBs in line ahead, but Yuubari's DD-tier armor means also getting critted by elite CAs and flagship CLs and even elite CLs if really unlucky. On the other hand, the best-armored CLs can potentially tank diamond formation BB hits.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:13:32 2014 No.12152680 Are there other ways of doing dailies that arent all subs on 2-3?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:15:07 2014 No.12152685 >>12152680 2-2.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:22:39 2014 No.12152704 >>12152680 >>12152685 All subs + CVL.

Anonymous Wed May 28 16:38:52 2014 No.12152724

>>12152680
Unless you're purposefully stockpiling there is no reason to do dailies with subs at all. Just pick underleveled ships and use them. Trust me, having 3rd set of subs getting close to Lv.91 with 2 others sitting at Lv.99 is frustrating at best. All that exp could've gone to other ships.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:39:14 2014 No.12152725 What have you been guys using for 46cm crafts? Been striking out for a few weeks now with 10/251/250/10 with Akashi as a flagship.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:40:06 2014 No.12152727 >>12152725 Just switch the flagship, it usually helps.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:42:41 2014 No.12152733 >>12152725 Kongo, though mostly because of sentimental value. She was my first BB, first K2, first ship I married. It's all the same percentage anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:44:05 2014 No.12152735 >>12152725 >Akashi Welp, she gives 46cms?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:49:05 2014 No.12152749 >>12149450 Fuck, where are the coastal defense ships? I totally forgot

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:50:14 2014 No.12152750 >>12152749 Do you really want things that are weaker then half a Mutsuki?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:50:50 2014 No.12152752 >>12152749 The devs forgot too so no big deal.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:55:32 2014 No.12152763 >>12152750 Well, if they consume less they'll be good for expeditions. >>12152752 It's a big deal! How would you feel if you were a cute loli ship and everyone forgot about you. .

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:56:31 2014 No.12152767 >>12152750 If they also eat half of what Mutsukis eat, yes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:57:30 2014 No.12152771 >>12152763 What was that? I forgot.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:57:31 2014 No.12152772 >>12152763 > How would you feel if you were a cute loli ship and everyone forgot about you. . Ask Ayanamis, they know how it feels.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:07:29 2014 No.12152790 >>12152772 My Ayanami is level 51 from her expeditions, I won't forget her!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:21:56 2014 No.12152819 I require tech support: I can't log into Kancolle in IE or KCV because the sign in & choose language buttons are unresponsive. Sorry for the semi-blog post but I just want to play Shipdaughters in KCV.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:40:56 2014 No.12152863 >>12152819 clear cache

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:41:54 2014 No.12152867 >>12152863 Tried before, no dice.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:53:07 2014 No.12152882 >>12152867 When it happens return the url

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:54:42 2014 No.12152884 >>12152882 Like, copy and paste the URL here?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:55:22 2014 No.12152888 >>12152884 No in the address bar in KCV

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 18:44:47 2014 No.12152942 Ok, so I'm doing 4-3 and I can't go to the boss node. I get to the preboss node but it haas been 4 times and it sends me north or south. Any suggestion to get there?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 18:45:39 2014 No.12152944 >>12152942 Read the wiki.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 18:46:44 2014 No.12152946 >>12152942 Sacrifice your starter.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 18:50:44 2014 No.12152951 >>12152946 Scuttle yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 19:03:19 2014 No.12152962 >>12152944 I've read the wiki. I get safely to G but there are no instructions on how to go to I. Instead, I've been sent to H and L the 5 times I've tried. I'm using all the Kongou Sisters, Haguro and Tone.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 19:28:23 2014 No.12152994 >>12152942 It's random from that point on. Just keep trying.

Anonymous Wed May 28 20:01:39 2014 No.12153044

Just cleared 2-5 with 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL and I have to say, the first node was way more of a problem than the Ru node. Not once was I turned back by Ru, but three times in a row I was turned back by an elite Ri and torpedoes in the flag CL formation, plus once a Nu crit to orange set me up for eventual failure at boss node.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 20:03:40 2014 No.12153046 >>12153044 I cleared 2-5 with a single sub. git gud

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 20:05:51 2014 No.12153051 >>12153046 Sure thing bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 20:07:14 2014 No.12153055 >>12153046 Teach me your secrets.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 20:09:39 2014 No.12153058 >>12153055 Just post on jp claiming to have reached the boss of a map with branching rules with a single sub that prevent you from ever reaching the boss with a single sub. ez

Anonymous Wed May 28 20:10:47 2014 No.12153061

>>12153044

It isn't nearly as bad as node A on the north path.

Just need to bring more torp bombers. You only really need 2 Reppus in the 2nd smallest slots on both CVLs in order to achieve air superiority against Flag Nu. That leaves you enough room for at least 4 Ryuusei Kai depending on how many Saiun you needed to bring. That way you can usually take out at least 1, often 2 of the fodders, leaving you a better chance of finishing off the rest. And if you bring CAVs, you can load them with Zuiun Sq 634 for more air bombing damage as well.

Anonymous Wed May 28 20:38:42 2014 No.12153123

>>12153061
I brought 6 RK along with Reppu Kai and Reppu (no Saiun), but they went and all targeted the same DD or missed every time I got the line ahead fleet, plus it was always the very first enemy attack that would crit a CVL. (But then when I get the diamond fleet they actually sank the Nu once and constantly sank CAs, go figure).

I kind of wanted Seiran and Zuiun bombing, but I didn't want to have to use a Mogami-class, and I wanted to grind Chikuma (as well as have an excuse to use Choukai on a sortie instead of PvP)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 20:51:23 2014 No.12153145 File: 847 KB, 1037x694, Abissal fleet is best fleet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When we'll get best fleet?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 21:19:41 2014 No.12153195 File: 940 KB, 2903x2087, hotglu meetup ships.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Love, #hotglue

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 22:37:12 2014 No.12153335 File: 316 KB, 1500x1000, 43631625.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I miss her already

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 22:46:34 2014 No.12153353 File: 585 KB, 1000x1193, 43444398.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I miss her too

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 22:50:33 2014 No.12153359 >>12153353 I want t buy this guy's art and later punch him in the face.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:10:13 2014 No.12153383 >>12153195 Please check your autism.

>>	Musashi !silf.UGEBE Wed May 28 23:39:52 2014 No.12153419 >>12148967 >>12148973 Just wanted to clarify, does sqrt(ship stat) calculation refers to individual ship or total ship LoS?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:52:58 2014 No.12153434 >>12153419 Considering it's inside map requirement, I think that's total LOS stat in one fleet.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:53:54 2014 No.12153435 >>12153434 Individual.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:56:53 2014 No.12153442 >>12153435 One single ship can't reach above 75 LOS with that formula

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:19:51 2014 No.12153478 File: 1.44 MB, 1730x1200, img000025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone kind to tell me stories?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:26:36 2014 No.12153489 >>12153044 I think this proves conclusively that an eRi > fRu

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:41:33 2014 No.12153512 Other than using buckets and doing PvP, what's the best way to level up DDs and CLs? I've been doing 3-2-A with them as my flagship. They don't get MvP obviously so they only get ~570 exp per fight.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:42:26 2014 No.12153516 >>12153512 5-4

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:44:54 2014 No.12153523 >>12153516 explain?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:44:56 2014 No.12153524 >>12153516 Haven't gotten that far.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:47:17 2014 No.12153531 >>12153512 4-3

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:56:14 2014 No.12153546 >>12153419 >>12153434 >>12153435 >>12153442 >偵察機索敵値×2 ＋電探索敵値＋ √(艦隊の装備込み索敵値合計 - 偵察機索敵値 - 電探索敵値) ≧ 76 It mentions 艦隊, so I think it's the total LOS of one fleet.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:04:48 2014 No.12153563 >>12153523 The first node of 5-4 gives great EXP and doesn't require using buckets

>>	Musashi !silf.UGEBE Thu May 29 01:06:44 2014 No.12153565 >>12153434 >>12153546 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:09:56 2014 No.12153568 >>12153563 Welp I thought you had a clever way to get to the boss

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:11:45 2014 No.12153571 Has anyone found Zharay

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:13:50 2014 No.12153572 Still, formula says: recon plane LOS x 2 + radar LOS √(sum of fleet's LOS with equipments - recon LOS - radar LOS) How about LOS from torpedo bomber? Does it count as "recon plane"?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:18:17 2014 No.12153582 >>12153571 He's gone, Jim.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:19:50 2014 No.12153584 recon plane stat x 2 + radar stat √(sum of fleet's LOS stat with equipments - recon plane stat - radar stat) How about LOS stat from torpedo bomber? Where does it go within this calculation?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:20:34 2014 No.12153587 >>12153582 Who's going to update KCV now?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:22:37 2014 No.12153589 >>12153587 I can.

>>	Musashi !silf.UGEBE Thu May 29 01:53:44 2014 No.12153629 >>12153584 Recon plane stat, since bombers like Zuiun and Prototype Seiran is included in it as well.

Anonymous Thu May 29 04:08:08 2014 No.12153778

Something quite peculiar happened to me.

I was leveling Urakaze on 5-4-A, but I decided to switch to 4-3 since I was leveling a DD and that map would yield more exp.

For 4-3 I just switched the CVs for CVLs and the sub por a CL, the order was DD, CAV, BB, CVL, CVL, CL.

Now, why did I mention the order? It was because when I switched the CL up to the 4th position, DD, CAV, BB, CL, CVL, CVL, the compass would send me to the J node, but then it would send me to K -> L -> M.

This happened 4 times in a row, so I switched back and I haven't touched J -> K -> L -> M route again.

This RNG, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 04:30:33 2014 No.12153791 In the new furniture, the blackboard one, does anyone know what the love umbrella scribble says?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 04:31:05 2014 No.12153792 >>12153791 Kagerou + Teitoku.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 04:34:06 2014 No.12153795 >>12153792 Well that's interesting. Thanks

Musashi !silf.UGEBE Thu May 29 04:38:49 2014 No.12153797
File: 749 KB, 800x480, KanColle-140529-13323359.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

logbook with effective LoS: http://1drv.ms/1nY5E07

If anyone still in 2-5, please test it and check whether the value is correct.
And i don't know whether it's a rounding error or not, but i got to the boss with 75 effective LoS.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 04:48:52 2014 No.12153805 >>12153478 submarine?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 05:23:11 2014 No.12153832 >>12153805 JSDF has a submarine named after Soryu. The entire series of that comic is mostly based on JSDF ships that share their name with ship girls.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:05:11 2014 No.12153955 Doing 2-5-38 gives really balanced income, except bauxite of course. Is there any better combination than this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:08:40 2014 No.12153961 >>12153955 The only one I can think of offhand is 2-6-38.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:14:12 2014 No.12153972 >>12153955 21, 37, 38.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:15:43 2014 No.12153975 >>12153955 I'm running 6, 37, 38, best imho since the income is quite high thanks to easy great success.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:23:10 2014 No.12153983 >>12153975 Do you sortie and pvp regularly? How do you cover the ammo expense using that combo?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:33:37 2014 No.12153999 >>12153983 I do pvp every day, but sortie with full fleet's sporadically, just to clear some weeklies, and i don't care about ammo since is sitting at 130k, while fuel and steel are at 140k, baux is 90k, going up slowly.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:38:27 2014 No.12154006 >>12153999 Than that might be the reason. I do regular sorties to level more ships and my ammo would run dry without exp 21 and 37. So the sweet spot for me is 6/21/37.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:40:55 2014 No.12154014 >>12154006 What about your buckets?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:50:23 2014 No.12154044 >>12154014 Who needs buckets when you have 6x more resources than needed to clear the event

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:50:56 2014 No.12154045 >>12154014 Going down really slowly, went from 1155 to 1120 in like 2 weeks

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:10:44 2014 No.12154077 >>12154045 Please tell me your secret.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:12:29 2014 No.12154078 >>12154014 Farmed them long ago, been sitting over 1200 for some time after event end, this week only i used 20ish to clear world 4 boss kill, 4-4 boss kill and 5-2 boss S-rank.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:18:12 2014 No.12154089 I'm a level 66 TTK and I'm trying to clear 4-3 atm. should I start stockpiling stuff for a summer event? how much is the minimum resources and buckets I should save?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:18:55 2014 No.12154090 I'm getting Yamashirou three consecutive times on 2-5. A good jab at my luck, RNG. A real good jab.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:20:33 2014 No.12154092 >>12154089 No one knows. The best you could do is to try to reach 50-100K. Buckets wise, 200+. If you're intending to farm, aim higher: 800+, maybe?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:21:56 2014 No.12154095 >>12154077 Quests, plus since I also play from work, I sit out everything shorter than 2 hours while working on projects. I also rotate while other girls are in the bath.

Anonymous Thu May 29 09:22:34 2014 No.12154096

>>12154089
Don't bother stockpiling until they officially announce one. They'll do it about a month in advance, which is plenty of time. The people stockpiling here have been playing so long that they have nothing better to do. Focus on clearing and collecting, and maybe stay near your regen cap if you're paranoid.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:29:02 2014 No.12154101 Okay so what am I supposed to do for the second new sortie quest? I thought it was finishing 2-5 with Myoukou Nachi and Haguro but I guess I pulled that out of my arse. Well at least I got them a bit leveled in the process.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:37:37 2014 No.12154108 >>12154101 >「第五戦隊」は沖ノ島沖の戦闘哨戒を実施、敵艦隊主力を捕捉、これを撃滅せよ！ >※「敵主力艦隊」（2-5ボス戦）にS勝利で達成「第五戦隊」の3隻（「妙高」「那智」「羽黒」）+他に艦がいてもOK S rank?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:41:15 2014 No.12154116 >>12154108 Oh dick me sideways really? Sod that then, I had it hard enough just getting to the boss. Thanks anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 09:47:16 2014 No.12154123 >>12154108 Oh fuck me, Myoukou and Nachi is severely underleveled.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:06:33 2014 No.12154148 is ryuujou worth using now that she has a kai ni?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:10:18 2014 No.12154154 >>12154148 She's always worth using with subs on 2-2 for world 2 boss kills quest

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:10:30 2014 No.12154155 >>12154148 As a CVL, she's now only beaten by the Chitose sisters. And maybe Hiyou class if you don't mind their slow speed.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:10:30 2014 No.12154156 >>12154148 RJ is love

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:11:15 2014 No.12154159 >>12154148 If you want the most powerful CVL, nope.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:11:42 2014 No.12154160 >>12154154 Explain. Why use her when there are other CVLs?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:19:44 2014 No.12154169 >>12154160 She's cheap, have high base evasion stat and can equip 4 turbines

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:19:53 2014 No.12154170 >>12154160 Because 28 She has the biggest rack so you can stick your reppu kai there.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:59:39 2014 No.12154216 >>12154160 1 excellent slot, 1 good slot, 2 bad slots - depending on what you need she's a good choice as long as CVL go.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:01:34 2014 No.12154218 File: 480 KB, 798x1019, Atago.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been stuck on this for a while, why do people say Choukai is better than Atago or Takao? I always assumed they were better, not only because they're more popular.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:02:23 2014 No.12154220 >>12154218 Who said this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:05:00 2014 No.12154225 >>12154220 I'm in Japan right now and this seems to be the general opinion under the players I discussed the game with. One of them got actually quite upset when I mentioned dumping Choukai out of my first fleet for Atago when I started playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:06:31 2014 No.12154228 >>12154220 Big boobs haters or glasses lovers maybe. >>12154225 Pretty sure Atago should be more popular in Japan, maybe you just got someone I mentioned above.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:09:14 2014 No.12154229 >>12154228 but choukai and maya also have big boobs If atago is that good, should I pick her over aoba I just started map 2

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:10:49 2014 No.12154231 >>12154228 Probably... It's a pretty autistic group anyway, exceeding /jp/ level. I think Atago is cute even though I'm not into large chests myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:11:32 2014 No.12154233 >>12154229 Just put the biggest ships you have for World 2, maybe with exception of Kitakami and Ooi.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:12:15 2014 No.12154234 >>12154229 There are some nice pages on the wiki that compare the maximum stats of ships in their class. Otherwise, just go with the girls you like.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:30:40 2014 No.12154263 >>12154225 They are all so shit there's no reason to compare. Haguro is good now though

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:43:03 2014 No.12154283 where's a good place to level submarines?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:44:51 2014 No.12154285 >>12154283 1-5. Literally no damage, fatigue doesn't matter though you get 0 drops since you're getting D rank every time.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:45:20 2014 No.12154288 >>12154283 2-3

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:52:31 2014 No.12154298 >>12154283 What's the point of levelling subs?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:56:34 2014 No.12154302 >>12154298 What's the point of life?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:10:19 2014 No.12154323 >>12154298 What's the point of farming 2-3 ?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:14:54 2014 No.12154335 >>12154323 Gathering resources and clearing dailies.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:15:40 2014 No.12154336 File: 328 KB, 850x850, 1389121228539.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If Cankolle is so popular, then why does it only ever have one continuous thread while Touhou has zillions?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:18:51 2014 No.12154343 >>12154336 Because we are more civilised people who don't flood /jp/ with multiple threads talking about the same thing. Also >Cankolle

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:19:00 2014 No.12154344 >>12154336 Because we're a civilized bunch that don't condone flooding /jp/ with threads when there's one already up..

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:21:04 2014 No.12154351 File: 621 KB, 778x1300, 1389105356885.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12154343 >>12154344 Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:22:21 2014 No.12154354 >>12154351 Who's this shipgirl?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:24:29 2014 No.12154362 >>12154351 We have no need to do so. Statistics will say for themselves. >>12154354 Fubuki.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:26:58 2014 No.12154368 >>12154354 Cracklin' Oat Bran

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:30:30 2014 No.12154377 >>12154354 Why, that's petty officer Louis Mashengo!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:38:44 2014 No.12154391 File: 517 KB, 1034x1500, SP4JcMz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will you play Kancolle 2: Castle edition when it's out?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:42:25 2014 No.12154398 >>12154391 Seems to be a mobile game, so no.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:43:22 2014 No.12154401 >>12154398 I already play KanColle in my phone, whats the difference?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:44:12 2014 No.12154404 >>12154401 Enjoy your ban.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:45:02 2014 No.12154405 >>12154401 Well, I don't

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:50:07 2014 No.12154412 >>12154401 Less data usage.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:52:03 2014 No.12154415 >>12154401 Why aren't you playing it on an intel based tablet? Getting more than 9 hours battery life is doable easily even with core i5 haswell.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 13:22:08 2014 No.12154460 >>12154351 Man, that face is just... wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:03:49 2014 No.12154674 hey i was wondering of getting into this game and if it had a engilsh patch? It seems like commie did something like that http://commiesubs.com/commie-kancolle-kantai-collection-english-patch/ Do you guys use this and does it translate everything?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:04:57 2014 No.12154678 >>12154674 Commie pls go and stay go.

Anonymous Thu May 29 15:09:04 2014 No.12154687

>>12154678
What im really new and it seems pretty hard to even create a account, is it worth it?
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Register
im reading this Tutorial and i cant even make a account on dmm, its tells me This page is not available in your area. what do i have to do?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:09:45 2014 No.12154690 >>12154687 Don't be retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:11:50 2014 No.12154696 >>12154690 could you maybe help me out it doesn't explain what VPN is.... do i need a proxy just to make an account on dmm or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:12:18 2014 No.12154697 >>12154696 No.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:12:55 2014 No.12154698 >>12154696 http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:13:14 2014 No.12154700 >>12154678 >>12154690 >>12154697 Can you fucking stop replying to him

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:13:18 2014 No.12154702 >>12154696 Stop trolling, no one can be that retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:19:41 2014 No.12154709 >>12154702 There exist people even more retarded than this, but they're usually too busy watching football to use the internet

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:19:53 2014 No.12154711 What is the combat bonus from all fast ships?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:22:10 2014 No.12154716 >>12154709 I would like to get into this game but the proxy business looks way to much of a bother. im too lazy right now for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:23:06 2014 No.12154719 >>12154711 you go fast

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:23:36 2014 No.12154720 >>12154711 Unknown, though due to my experience with E-4 I came to believe that they do get an evasion bonus.

>>	Shimakaze Thu May 29 15:35:14 2014 No.12154737 File: 62 KB, 500x502, 40700747_p3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12154711 Fast = Good Slow = Bad

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:55:30 2014 No.12154768 >>12154716 You only need to download a program that does all the proxy stuff easy. The only bother is maybe gettig into the lottery but a lot of people get there in the first 3 days they try.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:56:59 2014 No.12154774 >>12154768 First of all, there's no need to download anything. Second - why not just bake a cookie?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:05:28 2014 No.12154787 >>12154774 welp, he could go to dmm using KCV. that woould be the easiest way to do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:14:05 2014 No.12154808 Is KCV acting up for anyone else? It keeps resetting itself on me

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:15:11 2014 No.12154810 >>12154808 not for me

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:15:12 2014 No.12154811 >>12154787 I have no idea what you're talking about, why do you think cookies are restricted to KCV?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:15:18 2014 No.12154812 >>12154808 Works fine for me. What do you mean by resetting?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:23:31 2014 No.12154833 File: 439 KB, 1000x630, 43655708_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you do when they start doubling sub fatigue to prevent sub slaving?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:27:51 2014 No.12154845 >>12154833 Nothing. I don't do subslaving.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:28:52 2014 No.12154850 >>12154833 I don't really use subs much, so nothing in particular.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:29:02 2014 No.12154852 >>12154833 Just sortie them until they get crit to red, then bucket, then repeat.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:30:41 2014 No.12154857 >>12154833 You just simply reduce resource comsumption replacing some BBs with CAs and CVs with CVLs. With the new Kai Nis, CAs are becoming a viable alternative for BBs. You'll still need a BB for second attack round during daytime.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:43:35 2014 No.12154896 Guys, how do we get Zharay back?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:45:31 2014 No.12154900 >>12154896 Sacrifice the ship you love the most

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:47:10 2014 No.12154906 >>12154896 Bring back his lost ships from the abyss .

Anonymous Thu May 29 16:54:05 2014 No.12154921
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>>12154896
We don't. He just got bored, or too busy with other stuff, like everyone else before him. He was too much of a pussy announce it properly, but it's not like we're new to that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:57:56 2014 No.12154929 >>12154812 Like the main settings, as in the flash setting, whether it runs on Direct, GPU or Opaque, volume levels, folder destination etc etc, keeps resetting for me

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:58:26 2014 No.12154930 >>12154921 I wish I could pick it up, while learning to code, pipe dream though. I know basic python and C.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:59:16 2014 No.12154934 >>12154921 As long as the Japanese one gets updated then I'm fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:00:33 2014 No.12154936 >>12154929 Eh, I had that problem when I was trying to get KCV to work in the first place. Only thing I did was update IE, Flash and .NET, so try that I guess.

Anonymous Thu May 29 17:04:58 2014 No.12154953
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>>12154225
A recent time I looked at the maxed stats list I realized that the last time they buffed CAs, Maya and Choukai actually got 1 more max firepower than Takao and Atago (who get 10 more torpedo). So Choukai is technically a tiny bit better since torpedo stat is basically worthless on CAs.

Maya was objectively the best CA though until Haguro got Kai-2. Tone and Chikuma were also good, and even better as Kai-2 CAVs now.

With Parsley so active drawing new ships, I hope Choukai gets a Kai-2 (I was holding out hope last time even though I knew it was most likely Haguro). Of course historically she was the one Takao-class that didn't get major upgrades, but history didn't stop them from giving Kinugasa a Kai-2 (while Aoba still doesn't have one).

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:07:35 2014 No.12154961 >>12154934 I thought the english version had a lot of new cooler features.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:37:47 2014 No.12155037 >>12154953 >torpedo stat is basically worthless on CAs. What are night battles with more than 180 firepower and high cut in chance?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:41:30 2014 No.12155049 File: 269 KB, 604x859, 5bc5b8c4d047acace49d0e44d08ce212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12154953 I wouldn't mind more new ships from him.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:42:50 2014 No.12155055 >>12155037 What? Only Aoba that's worthed for cut-in setup, and even her luck is not that good.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:43:57 2014 No.12155060 >>12155037 While torpedo stat in good for night battles, who cares about cut-ins?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:44:07 2014 No.12155062 >>12155055 By high cut-in chance he probably meant Maruyus.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:47:09 2014 No.12155068 >>12154833 I repair scratch damage. >>12154953 Yes, Choukai probably did the most out of all IJN heavy cruisers in WW2. Some Kai 2s are based not on equipment and upgrades, but by achievements.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:53:38 2014 No.12155091 >>12155037 No same person would equip a CA for cut-in with night battle in mind. They can do sick DAs though.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:04:46 2014 No.12155252 >>12155091 I used to do that for Aoba, but switched to standard setup when daytime special attacks were implemented.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:49:48 2014 No.12155365 whats the best way to clear world 4 boss quest?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:04:52 2014 No.12155394 >>12155365 4-2

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:32:14 2014 No.12155460 >>12155394 is there other cheap composition I could use besides subs?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:48:39 2014 No.12155487 >>12155460 1CA,1CLT,2DD,2CVL works pretty well

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:54:39 2014 No.12155495 >>12155487 Thanks, my subs are unlucky today.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 21:15:43 2014 No.12155527 So how are the new anti-scripting protections working? Was there anyone at all banned for scripting since the update came out? I'm still going strong here.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:00:51 2014 No.12155599 >>12154930 If you are just maintaining and merging updates from the Japanese version, it shouldn't be too hard. >>12155527 >new anti-scripting protections Haven't seen any news about it. Please elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:03:43 2014 No.12155605 File: 497 KB, 800x480, KanColle-140530-11140116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is a troll, right? I hope he is.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:04:33 2014 No.12155607 >>12155599 Legend has it that if you script at night a goth loli will come to your door and ask you to be her nii-san.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:07:00 2014 No.12155608 >>12155607 I script 24 hours a day. As long as you're not a retard and do something like no delay between expeditions then you're fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:11:31 2014 No.12155620 >>12155605 And this is why it is important to sleep well.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:11:31 2014 No.12155621 File: 376 KB, 800x750, here for you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12155607 not goth >>12155608 did you run all 3 with one script??

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:21:16 2014 No.12155638 >>12155605 Seems like a pretty obvious troll. He brought Sakawa to make it look better I guess, but the rest are probably a bunch of level 1 drops from 5-4 spamming.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:22:14 2014 No.12155641 >>12155621 ok, that would be scary...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:29:15 2014 No.12155656 >>12155605 I should think so. Look at their max HP. It's their non-Kai HP.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:00:20 2014 No.12155710 >>12155605 http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/World_2:_%E5%8D%97%E8%A5%BF%E8%AB%B8%E5%B3%B6%E6%B5%B7%E5%9F%9F#comm-74581

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:11:21 2014 No.12155727 >>12155710 I don't know who is more retarded, the troll or the wikia idiots responding seriously to that. I'm inclined to say the latter are.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:30:17 2014 No.12155762 Wikipedia says kongos used type 91 AP shells. Why can't we equip them?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:33:18 2014 No.12155769 >>12155762 Game balance.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:33:55 2014 No.12155772 >>12155608 I wonder why DMM doesn't find it suspicious when a player runs continuous expeditions for over 24 hours, even if there is a little delay in between each. I guess they're only looking for the most egregious offenders, like you said.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:35:09 2014 No.12155774 >>12155769 It would clearly make the Kongous game breakingly OP

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:40:50 2014 No.12155785 >>12155772 I have a 4 min delay between expeditions. And I rotate what expeditions I do everyday. When I sleep or go to work I put the delay longer, like 5-7 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:46:02 2014 No.12155792 >>12155785 Rotating your expeditions is smart. How long have you been scripting for?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:47:43 2014 No.12155796 >>12155785 You guys are too paranoid, I've been running 2/5/37 without any delay between expeditions and still going strong.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:48:06 2014 No.12155798 >>12155792 Around 4 months.

Anonymous Thu May 29 23:52:09 2014 No.12155802

>>12155796
I admit that I am rather paranoid. I don'' script, but a friend of mine is considering it and that's gotten me to think about it as well.

This guy >>12155798 seems like he knows what he's doing if he's been doing it for so long. Running the same expeditions over and over for such a long time with no pauses sounds too risky for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:08:36 2014 No.12155826 >>12155727 http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Exercises_(PvP)#comm-74587

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:28:11 2014 No.12155858 In Bep, we trust.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:44:01 2014 No.12155896 What's the hardest map you've cleared, teitokus? I'm taking a break from leveling to clear some more maps and I'd like to know what to watch out for.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:47:07 2014 No.12155905 >>12155896 5-3 or the past E5 (hard version), the rest were easy.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:47:58 2014 No.12155908 >>12155896 Fall E-4. Everything else is babbies.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:49:31 2014 No.12155912 >>12155896 >>12155905 is correct. Take it easy on 5-3, it can be quite frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:50:25 2014 No.12155914 File: 237 KB, 1066x866, sub butts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who has a tighter butthole? Hacchan or Iku?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:52:20 2014 No.12155918 >>12155914 Hacchan. Iku's a slut, I bet she routinely rammed dummy torpedoes up both her holes just for the sake of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:52:57 2014 No.12155920 >>12155914 I can't really render a judgment with that censor in the way.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:53:46 2014 No.12155923 >>12155918 But we can't discount the phalluses popping out of Hacchan's books. Sure, Iku rides her torpedoes, but Hacchan isn't entirely in the clear here.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:54:26 2014 No.12155926 >>12155896 Try 5-5.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 01:10:12 2014 No.12155947 >>12155914 Why don't you go make a "which KanColles butt doesn't smell like petrol?" thread

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 01:19:02 2014 No.12155952 >>12155947 u wanna fight m8

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 01:32:52 2014 No.12155968 >>12155952 I will actually wreck you. I've been playing kancolle on a heavy tablet for 6 months.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 01:51:32 2014 No.12156006 File: 145 KB, 490x490, 66f6b880.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 01:53:42 2014 No.12156012 >>12156006 This looks almost genuine. I can't wait. Right now my sendai is 60, I might get her to 70 just to be safe.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 02:01:39 2014 No.12156034 Any news about the next update? Possibly some more kai nis?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 02:03:49 2014 No.12156042 >>12156034 next maint on 6th.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 02:08:48 2014 No.12156056 >>12156012 65 here. Steadily raising her level, I use her whenever I expect to enter the night battle.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 03:49:05 2014 No.12156224 Does anyone have a video of the Friend support fleets in action?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 03:53:08 2014 No.12156228 >>12155858 Amen to that.

Anonymous Fri May 30 04:35:55 2014 No.12156298

Just noticed something really weird.
CVL that equipped with Akitsumaru ASW Plane/Chopper in all slots can't do ASW anymore, while BBV equipped with full Akitsumaru choppers can do ASW just fine. Have to put a red plane in one of CVL slot for them to do ASW now.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 04:37:57 2014 No.12156304 >>12156298 That's how it's always been. Carriers need an attack plane to attack, BBV can attack without any sort of equipment.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 04:42:04 2014 No.12156317 >>12156304 If that's the case then maybe just my memory being derp, since I remembered seeing Chiyoda with full ASW planes doing ASW before.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 04:56:45 2014 No.12156334 >>12156006 My little night battle crazed CL can't be this cute. Now add Ashigara Kai Ni and we can go full bloodthirsty day and night.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:16:09 2014 No.12156472 File: 156 KB, 260x261, welp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you use this guy for? +4 Dive bomb +3 Anti-sub +4 Anti-Air Or is it copletely useless?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:17:27 2014 No.12156474 >>12156472 anti air while it can bomb

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:17:54 2014 No.12156475 >>12156472 It's really useful.

Anonymous Fri May 30 07:18:02 2014 No.12156477
File: 580 KB, 800x480, Another 2-5 win.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Can't believe how easy 2-5 boss node is with 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL.
Chikuma/Tone: 20.3/20.3/type 0 recon/type 0 observation
Yuudachi: 12.7 type B/10cm high angle/type 33 radar
Shigure: 3x quad O2 torps
Chitose/Chiyoda: Reppu/Ryuusei Kai/Suisei 12A/Saiun
Poi was hit to orange at node E; the most damage anyone took here was scratch.

>>12156472
To me, it's completely useless. Not sure to others.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:19:50 2014 No.12156478 >>12156472 In a condition if you can't bring lots of carriers but still need air superiority.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:21:40 2014 No.12156480 >>12156472 I used 3xReppu and one of that for E-5 on both carriers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:36:32 2014 No.12156498 File: 461 KB, 800x480, i did it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hngg, 9 more levels to go

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:41:58 2014 No.12156499 >>12156477 Can't believe you thought the boss would be hard on a 3 node route

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:44:20 2014 No.12156504 >>12156499 It's not that I thought the boss would be hard, though 3 BBs at the boss node sounds kinda intimidating. It's that I didn't think I'd S rank it in the day with barely any damage taken.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:45:28 2014 No.12156506 >>12156504 Because they're shitty BBs

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:48:05 2014 No.12156516 >>12156504 it's a fTa your CVL will 1 shot it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:51:50 2014 No.12156522 File: 79 KB, 857x531, Wait_what.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can it repair?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:52:31 2014 No.12156524 >>12156522 No; must be flag.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 07:53:36 2014 No.12156527 >>12156522 Not unless it has been updated

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:29:52 2014 No.12156595 >>12156522 Probably training multiple ships, mainly Hibiki.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:43:59 2014 No.12156625 >>12156472 You use it when you have to gear up for full AA and still want your carriers to attack. It was useful for Fall E5 2CV runs.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:50:43 2014 No.12156634 >>12156625 >Fall

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:53:56 2014 No.12156640 >>12156634 Southern hemisphere mate, we'll fuck you up

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:54:56 2014 No.12156642 >>12156640 Uh, we follow the seasons Japan experiences. Captcha: eingsbou season

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:01:38 2014 No.12156653 >>12156642 We follow 4-corner Earth rotation ancient axis principle. It is simultaneous 4 season at once. You educated stupids should get out.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:03:08 2014 No.12156656 >>12156653 Excuse me? This is a Japanese game?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:11:05 2014 No.12156671 File: 127 KB, 713x454, One year later.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it finally over /jp/? Can I sleep well knowing I've completed the accursed first page?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:14:42 2014 No.12156679 >>12156671 How about no 001-100? And which is the last ship that complete yours first?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:18:36 2014 No.12156690 >>12156679 My bet would be #001. I started last September and I didn't get my first Nagato until last month via LSC.

Anonymous Fri May 30 09:20:20 2014 No.12156700

>>12156679
>How about no 001-100?
Done. I still have plenty to go though..

>And which is the last ship that complete yours first?
Yukikaze actually. Darn Beaver surprised me as a drop from 5-4. Nagato was my 5th battleship and I did not realise how rare she was until /jp/ complained about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:20:33 2014 No.12156701 >>12155968 Dude, I'll fuck you up. You play boats on a tablet? How cute. I work on an aircraft carrier. My nichijou is kantai collection every day.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:24:12 2014 No.12156709 >>12156701 Working on a boat doesn't make you manly if you browse threads about Japanese ship girls

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:26:41 2014 No.12156714 >>12156709 Nice one, I'm pretty mad now

Anonymous Fri May 30 09:30:06 2014 No.12156720
File: 588 KB, 800x480, KanColle-140530-15250697.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

To some of you who keep complaining of not getting good equipment and planes, just use wikiwiki for recipes. http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF

After spending 2700 bauxite and 20 dev items I got, besides all the usual drops:

1. this guy here:>>12156472

2. Ryuusei Kai

3. And the most special (?), a Reppu Kai (pic related). I dunno how unusual it is but since even wikiwiki doesn't list a recipe for it, this is what I used when I go it:

TTK lvl. 67
Kaga Kai lvl 30
20/60/10/100.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:31:29 2014 No.12156722 >>12156720 You can craft Reppu Kai? Show us by putting 2 Reppu Kais on a CV.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:32:26 2014 No.12156724 >>12156720 Oh young newbie you have much to learn

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:34:49 2014 No.12156733 >>12156722 Welp, that image is the only thing I have to back my claim. It's my first time I craft it and I've been playing since a month and halve ago. The closest thing to that I have is a single Reppu I got as a reward for April's E-1.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:35:51 2014 No.12156736 >>12156733 That's Reppu kai.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:38:27 2014 No.12156745 >>12156724 What do you mean by that? >>12156736 Afaik, what I got was a Reppu. Unless I've been missreading. Which it is also a possibility. PD: Yeah, seems that I've been missreading all this time. Sorry for the inconvenience

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:39:46 2014 No.12156749 File: 967 KB, 2331x1734, Recipe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking about recipes, I will post this here, courtesy of futaba

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:42:08 2014 No.12156755 >>12156749 Would be nice if someone translated it so you could print it as a wall poster quick reference.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:44:12 2014 No.12156761 >>12156755 The list is continuously updated though. The latest copy should have some info about the latest planes. Maybe.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:45:37 2014 No.12156764 File: 923 KB, 1205x1511, 1391939735579.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12156761 I only have the left side, but it seems it's outdated. That image has a lot more stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:45:41 2014 No.12156765 >>12156761 That's from April 27th, it's still not updated with last week's new craftable plane.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:47:15 2014 No.12156769 >>12156764 The right one is expedition chart, which is still same since last Tokyo Express update.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:48:34 2014 No.12156770 >>12156749 If only Sazanami and friends as cute as the picture.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:50:44 2014 No.12156774 >>12156770 What is wrong with Sazanami's Akebono, Oboroo and Ushio's art?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:50:48 2014 No.12156775 >>12156769 Still, that craft chart seems to be more updated than the translated one.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:56:56 2014 No.12156780 What is the best way to equip your CAs?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:57:33 2014 No.12156781 >>12156780 Like BB.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:58:28 2014 No.12156786 >>12156781 Sorry for being so new, but what is the best way to equip BBs?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:58:38 2014 No.12156787 >>12156690 Mine was #002, and almost the exact same circumstance, only I started in November.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:59:04 2014 No.12156788 >>12156786 2 primary + recon + whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 10:01:35 2014 No.12156793 >>12156786 with love and patience. unless she just want to be friends

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 10:06:20 2014 No.12156801 >>12156793 Implying I want to marry a BB.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 11:53:02 2014 No.12156964 Does Saiun participate in initial aerial combat phase and get shot down in the process?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:18:41 2014 No.12157027 >>12156964 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:19:35 2014 No.12157031 >>12156801 BBs make the best wives. You don't know love until your pelvis is crushed by 30,000 tons of steel and muscle.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:33:07 2014 No.12157074 >>12157031 Implying Shoukaku doesn't have more than 30k tons load Implying her hangars won't be perfect for bearing our children.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:37:54 2014 No.12157090 >>12157074 >25,675 long tons (26,087 t) (standard) >32,105 long tons (32,620 t) (full load) just barely made it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:42:54 2014 No.12157103 So you guys ready for Midway? June 6th is coming fast.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 12:44:45 2014 No.12157110 >>12157103 It's just a year from now, time goes by so fast.

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