Kantai collection - Kancolle

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http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others:
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Detailed Battle Mechanics: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
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Kancolle Viewer: https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Kancolle Viewer (Translated): https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/Zharay/logbook

Please try to keep emoticons, banwave paranoia, greentext, Re, Wo, Hime and dumb questions to a reasonable minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

First for Fatalpulse

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147458
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147453
good taste OP

[Anonymous No.]

I've been out of it for a while so whats the recommended comp for 2-5? What comp did you guys use to beat it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147453
Amatsukaze is outdated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471
I used 4CAV2CLT but people tend to like 4BB2CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471
Tried 4 CAs 2 CAVs twice and got a ship crit to red at the first node. Both times. Then tried 4 BBs 2 CVs twice and ended up at node F both times.

I just used 2 CAs 2 CAVs 2 CVs and got to the boss node for the first time (by B-E-I-L). And got pic related as the boss drop.

Now going to replace the CVs with CVLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471
You either go full cruiser or you power through it with the good old 4BB2CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471
2CAV, 1BB 1BBV 2CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147495
>>12147478
Slow BBs or Fast BBs?
I tried it with 2 kongous and 2 Nagatos but got sent to dead end after the first node three times in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147549
I've heard only 4FBB works with the 4BB/2CV setup.
You'll still occasionally get sent to the dead end after the first node, but most of the time you'll make it to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147549
Having a big ship in your fleet gives you a chance to go to a dead-end node. Some people seem to have less problems with it, I went with the cruiser-approach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471
>>12147471
4BB 2CV. BB equipped with 2 main guns, a radar and type 0 recons. No yellow planes on CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147491
>Now going to replace the CVs with CVLs.
Same route as with 2 CVs. Worse, I got crit to red at node E, and so had to F5 at node I's formation selection screen, after continuing just to see where the fleet would go.

Guess I'll just stick with the CVs for now.

[Anonymous No.]

kancolle

[Anonymous No.]

Late as HELL to the party, but I'm glad it's finally over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147719
Why are you talking to an excel sheet?
Also, getting both Taihou and Yamato in 36 crafts is lucky as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

Too many new DD's. Tanikaze isn't getting much love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147719
Bis-chan where

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147752
What is she good for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147742
I think he got burnt out after all those crafting? Tho I consider getting taihou and Yamato before his 40th try is pretty lucky,

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147742
Taihou, Yamato, Bismarck, two Zun and two Maruyu in 13 crafts and Yahagi, Mikuma plus 4 more Maruyu in 25 min LSC

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147763
Fuck you too, mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147763
How is this possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147778
Desire sensor
I wanted to use it as res sink to justify full autismiing expeditions and not grinding because time intensive and thus it gave me everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147778
RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147758
___________.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147758
raep

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>>12147782
>>12147792
Tender loving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147782
Uh, shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone here can play using API on linux? For some reason I can't open the api link, it gives me "Couldn't resolve url" or something.

I already installed flashplayer, I even tried using the flash projector but nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147888
Works without any problem

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, great, I-58 from crafting. There goes all my luck.

All I wanted was a Max Schultz

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147898

Then I must be doing something horribly wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147899
but goya isn't rare

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147904
"Couldn't resolve url" sounds like you managed to paste copy&pasted your API link wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147912
Ship rarity, sure, but craft percentage... My luck hit the wrong target.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147471

There are quite a few compositions floating around.

Most people tend to like 4FBB2CV since it's the easiest, but also the most expensive and has a chance to run off course to node F.

Some went with cruiser fleet. 4CA(V)2CLT. Also has a small chance to run off course.

Personally, I've been farming it with medium-light fleet myself using several different comp:
- 1CA 2CAV 2DD 1CVL
- 2CA(V) 2DD 2CVL
These two has extremely low chance (if any) of going to F. At least I haven't been running to F at all since I started farming 3 days ago. It takes you through BEHL route and skips the Wo node. People are still trying to work out the branching rule for skipping Wo node, but it seems that:
- Having any large ship will send you straight to Wo node.
- If you have no large ship, but have a CLT, or less than 2DD, or more than 2 of any ship class, it will be random.
- If you have 2DD, no large ship, no CLT, no more than 2 of any ship class, then you go to H and skip the Wo node, at least almost always if not 100%.

I'm also using another comp that supposedly takes me through the north route ADHL 99% of the time. The branching rule according to wiki is 1CL 3DD. So I'm using 1CL 2CAV 3DD, and it seems to be working pretty well for me. P.S. this path has a night battle node, so it's not for everyone.

I should also mention that almost all of the full compass rigging, medium-light fleet requires really high level in order to perform well. So if you don't have any high level medium or small ships, just stick with 4FBB2CV. It's the safest, albeit annoying and expensive, composition for this map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148060
Thanks, thats really helpful.

How do you deal with the flag BB on the E node?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148066

I just line ahead it. Ru-class misses about 40% of the time, and 40% of the time my girls are able to hang on to orange, while the remaining 20% they go red and I retreat. Double Line doesn't really do anything for me, so I opt for crippling the Ru-class before it can fire again in the second round of shelling. In fact, I find it more risky to do Double Line with my medium-light fleet because I run the risk of not doing enough damage to their FCLTs, which can hit REALLY hard with HIGH accuracy if they survive to torpedo phase. I personally find those more dangerous than the Ru-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148060
Tried the 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL comp ant it sent me to node J instead of the boss node

Do I need more saiun/LOS or am I doing something wrong here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148100

Mind telling all the equipments your fleet is carrying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148101
Green planes are reppu/reppu kai
Blue is Ryuusei/Ryuusei kai

The radar on the CAs is type 21 and the one on Shigure is 13

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148106
I will ask the obvious question here. Why the blue planes?

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>>12148110
Didn't know what else to put there, there's no enemy CVs so greens would be a waste and decided to go with blue over red to fill the remaining spaces

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148106

Replace both Type 21 radars on your CAs with seaplanes. And if you have any more No.13 radar, give one to Poi as well (I'm assuming you don't have any No.22)

See if that works. Your equipment LoS is a little bit on the low side so you might need to sacrifice some accuracy/power for more equipment LoS.

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>>12148120
Tried again with the same equipments and comp (Because I already had started a sortie before this post) and got to the boss node.

So maybe this works but its not a 100% thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148131

It could be that if you don't meet the LoS requirement it becomes random, and the chance of going to boss decreases the further away you are from the asked value.

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>>12148106
>Yuudachi Kai 2 with cut-in setup
>Shigure Kai 2 with double attack setup
Something's not right here.

Oh well; try putting a radar on Poi to see if the extra LOS from it is enough. Or see if you can stuff another Saiun on Hiyou or Jun'you.

[Anonymous No.]

I still can't get past 5-3. Night nodes are hell for non-suicidal TTK's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148202
5 subs and lots of time/patience

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148202
Do it like real men with 1CL 5DD and lots of buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148201
Yuudachi actually cuts in every time in night battle for me but I didnt bother setting the DDs for night battle, only the CAs for day double attack.

>>12148120
Did this and have been getting to the boss node every single time and zero dead ends. Thanks a lot for the advice.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12147001
>Just tried it on OSX and it works.
>I still have to launch it with the "-XstartOnFirstThread" argument otherwise it won't run at all.
>That's pretty sweet, man. Not everything's translated/works, but it's nice to see an english version at least running on OSX.
Which are?
I'm sure everything is translated/works, except for the quest list.
Will be working on 0.6.0 after it's certain that most of the stuff are translated and working.

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>>12148225
At least give Shigure 2 torps, man.

If Poi cuts in for you consistently, that's good, but she might need a radar if your problem is not enough LOS.

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>>12148202
I did it with 2DD, 1CAV, 1CA, 2FBB. Keep trying guy.

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>>12148257
I don't have it in front of me right now, but if I remember correctly, the equipment list was empty and none of the ship names were translated.

If it helps, I was using the 0.6.0 sanaechan files with your english logbook.jar file. I would have used the 0.5.18 version of sanaechan, but the only version I could find on the japanese site was the most recent.

[Anonymous No.]

Just realized that the latest version is out. Don't know how long it stayed open in my computer.

The resource chart is nice addition, could be better if the y-axis is adjustable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148339
New version for what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148354
Logbook

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12148296
Delete the config folder, the problem happens because it has been populated by the japanese logbook data.

Using the latest sanaechan files are fine.

[Anonymous No.]

you fucking weebs still playing this retarded jap shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148577
The fact you felt a need to post that gives off a much more desperate vibe than what you're projecting onto us "weebs".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148438
Got rid of the config folder and all of the ship names are in english now. The equip list is still empty though. Tried scrapping some equip to see if it would refresh the list, but it's still empty.

Also, appreciate all the work you're putting into the new logbook.

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>>12148579
>giving replies
>2014

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148577
I suppose you have a better alternative to propose we waste our times on, good anon?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the formula for effective LoS, is it sqrt(base LoS) + equipment LoS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148587
shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148587
Jump on the mobage bandwagon

[Anonymous No.]

How many Reppu would be a safe number to have? I'm sitting on 6 right now and in my head that sounds like enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148603
That is enough. You won't field more than 3x CV and you would have a bunch of shiden kai2 to go with your reppus as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148603
More than what I have.
I think it'll do if you have a Reppu Kai or Shinden on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148603
Got 9 plus 1 Reppu Kai. I'm striving for more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148610
I wish I had Shinden, 101 FP on Kaga in a single slot is broken as fuck.
>>12148609
Yeah I'm going to go ahead move on to getting more 46cm.
>>12148611
Is this to be an asshole in pvp with 6CV?

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>>12148617
I have been working on 46cm instead of planes. 4 of my 10x 46cm came from the Yamatos, and that's really not enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148617
>Is this to be an asshole in pvp with 6CV?
No, I just want some more. I'm too paranoid or greedy I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148624
That's 9 more than me. Yamato won't come to me and I started right after fall event ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148617
Not him but I want more Reppu for convenience sake. Currently, if I need more Reppu on my carriers, I have to unequip them from other carriers and put them on again. It is quite troublesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148636
I hate that so much. It's too bad that priorities have to go to guns and radars before I can tackle this inconvenience issue.

Do you guys binge craft your gears, or you just do it through dailies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148644
I learn never to binge craft. It can be quite disheartening to see 15 or so attempts yielding very little rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148644
Binge craft. I wish there was a 10/50/100 slider to craft that amount of times in a single go. Doing hundreds of 10/10/11/10 for drums is a pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148644
Dailies, though I tend to do a few extra crafts each time.

[Anonymous No.]

I tried doing 4 BB 2 CV like what you guys said and I literally get sent to the F node each time. I don't have any CAVs aside from Mogami, do I have to start grinding them?

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>>12148714
2CAV 2BB 2CV works wonder for me, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148714
Mine's similar to >>12148718 except I used 1BB and 1CLT instead. BB is a Kongou class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148727
>>12148718
Thanks, I guess i'll start leveling those CAVs then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148714
2CAV 2 DD 2CVL works too

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>>12148603
During the event hype I had a dream that devs implemented high AA as a requirement for successful support in Midway. Now, I don't know how plausible that is, but I'd rather not be fucked over like that, even if it means sitting on 20 reppuus.

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>>12147458
What is this first shit? Have we gone that far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148609
Is it strange that I have only crafted this little shiden k2? no, I didn't scrap any.

[Anonymous No.]

Got tititykaze from 2-5, Why is Urakaze hiding from me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148844
I'm sorry, but who is she? I don't recognize her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148932
WIKI it bro, (hamakaze)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148932
Hamakaze

[Anonymous No.]

Which wikiwiki page that mentions Effective LOS = sqrt(total ship LoS) + Eq LOS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148967
From 2-5 page, it's (recon plane stat x 2)+(radar stat)+sqrt(ship stat)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148973
>recon plane stat x 2
Good lord, just how did they figure this out.

Now I feel like stacking 4 saiuns on 2 carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148973
Ah, I somehow missed it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I feel like whenever I T-cross the enemy in missions, my fleet seems to do much worse and than they should? As in, my ships miss and the enemy gets at least one ship on red during day time. And this is with a Saiun.

Please tell me this is a common occurrence for someone else too.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148982
If they can find combat formula, finding effective LOS stat should be piece of cake

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149008
I can only recognize Type A and 15.5 fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148995
During a green T-cross the enemy shoots you harder, too.

Doesn't make realistic sense but that's the way it is.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

And it's done.
logbook 0.6.0 now comes with total LoS and resource chart.

https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149063
sweet, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149063
>total LOS
>not effective LOS
Why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149079
That's just recently found, the original JP version doesn't have it yet.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12149079
Ship LoS value given by the game is already sum of ship's and equipment's, so logbook will not know the original LoS stat unless we disarm the ship ourself. Compared to that, calculating only the equipment LoS stat is easier to implement because the value is readily available from API.

There is a way to infer the ship original LoS stat, but i don't have the capacity to implement that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149227
If you know total LOS and equipment LOS, the ship LOS should be total LOS - equipment LOS.
Or is there some other factor as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149238
If it the formula uses "summation (sqrt (ship LOS))", you can't use that method since it'll be different than "sqrt (combined LOS)"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149079
Welcome to KanColle, where equipment is everything and the stats don't matter

For ASW and LOS for now at any rate

[Anonymous No.]

200+ bucket, 10k each ammo fuel, 44 S rank.
it over.... finally free from the stupid map!

taking the night route is much easier than the F node risk when going south.

DD CAVx2 CA CLTx2 LOS360(at least) is guaranteed boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>マルキューヨンマル。提督の皆さん、おはようございます！ 今日は火曜日！約70年前の今日5月27日は、戦いの分水嶺となった作戦に、一航戦・二航戦を基幹戦力とした南雲機動部隊が柱島泊地から出撃した日です。本日も索敵と先制を大切に、頑張ってまいりましょう！

Urr... don't tell me that Midway's still on schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
What did you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
Just like that Haruna Kai 2 and coastal defense ships, amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
Better get your carriers ready for next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
I told you guys Midway took place in June.
Going to laugh at all the faggots with no resources if it is happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149463
They will announce it at least a month in advance

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149467
What if they do it at the end of June?
Better get your bauxite ready, the announcement could be tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
Hopefully it's next month. My resources are hitting the limit again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149473
I have 80k at the moment. If that won't be enough, nothing will

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148736
How about just not scrapping your Siden Kai 2's

You need enough reppu to fill 3 CV & a few more incase one of your CV sinks (accidents happen)

[Anonymous No.]

Please no more battles with nonsensical fighter requirements. I hate that my CVs went from damage dealers to reppu/saiun hosts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149473
>>12149476
You can't be serious. I'm way past the regen limit myself, but another event so soon means that we'll have to wait months for the next one, again.

[Anonymous No.]

steps that have to happen before midway:
-Haruna and Sendai Kai2
-Musashi available from LSC
-Myouko class Kai2

so probably around mid August Midway will start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149490
>Musashi available from LSC

and I'll be running out of res before event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149484
I never scrap them.
>incase one of your CV sinks
I'm not a kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149486
>nonsensical fighter requirements
you know you can go with like half the required fp and still obtain air superiority instead of supremacy? it costs a bit more on baux but your carriers will do damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149489
Maybe they'll introduce 3-5 and 4-5 in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149484
>incase one of your CV sinks (accidents happen)
They don't.
When in doubt, retreat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149498
When you're on your 40th hour on a regenerating map accidents happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149490
>Musashi available from LSC
Due time I join the rank of faggots who get their desired ships within 5 crafts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149497
that's the point, make Musashi available like 2 months before event so people can drain all their resources on lsc/exping, the same happened when they added LSC and a month and half later 5-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149500
It's obvious he was talking about superiority, mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149489
Only if the devs are lazy. Events were supposed to be a quarterly thing in the first place and when the anime starts bringing in new players they won't be able to hit us with something difficult.

>>12149490
Why do they have to happen and why do you think it'll take 3 months to implement a bunch of ships that were probably finished a while ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149507
I don't think they'll bring back hell that is Fall E-4. Every hard map nowadays have a composition that takes you straight to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149507
No map ever took 40 hours to clear

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149507
>regenerating map
That's a thing of the past.

[Anonymous No.]

What about the bombing of Kure event? It makes sense to have Haruna Kai2 ready coincide with that. Tone's at Kai2 already after all. We just need Hyuuga, Ise, Aoba and Hosho kai2 to make it happen by July!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149517
Fall E4 took me about 16 hours nonstop to clear. It took just as long to get Yahagi...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149517
It took me 37 hrs to complete Nov E5 with lvl ~40 ships. I assume those who used subs spent even longer

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149521
>Hyuuga, Ise, Aoba and Hosho kai2
What about Fusou and Yamashiro?

>>12149522
You're lucky. Took me 20 hours of non-stop sparkling and sorties.

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>>12149513
I didn't say that, obviously they're already implemented, they just didn't publish them, there's probably some sort of timeline to follow, it's not like they can make everything available right away so people will clear all the available content and stop playing, they want people to slowly enjoy the game, and keep them interested with minor patches.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a update today or regular maint?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149525
>Fusou
>Yamashiro
That'll be for the Nishimura fleet event if it would ever happen. Suragao strait, October event... with mandatory composition of Fuso, Yamashiro, Shigure, Mogami, Michishio. You get three new Yuugumos in the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149524
It was a bit less than 10 hours for me. What the hell were you doing for 37 hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149530
I did not sparkle, may I add.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149532
Sparkle's half the work, along with fatigue recovery...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149424
I have been taking the south node and wanted to give the north a try, so I did. They red my kumano on the night node on my first try.
What do I need to do to avoid this to happen again? How about the formation? Or just keep trying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149533
That's why I never sparkle. I rather do more runs than wasting time on 1-1

[Anonymous No.]

Now that my resources are back at 150kish i must say fuck sub cheesing, i'm having way more fun clearing stuff with regular fleet, even thou it costs a bit more, clearing dailies is way faster and fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149542
They really need to rework subs to make them useful and relevant again like they did with CAs.
And most important of all, actually fun to use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149534
I go all line ahead every nodes without sparkles.. and pray.
try put your heavy armor ship on 2nd and 5th slot since that part easily gets red.

my total run was 151 but that includes when I was using the south node which keeps getting dead F..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149530
I had only just started in November and was extremely poorly equipped. I have a graph of the bosses hp/time

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149517
40hrs is a bit too much, you could clear the whole event in that amount of time, and even do some Yahagi runs, and i started 3 weeks before the event, my best ships were ktkm, Kongou, Mogami and Fusou sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149545
CA/V have become extremely fun to use, since you can go with multiple setups depending on the situation or fleet setup and use them to obtain air superiority for day battle cut-in galore. Tones have become stable members of my daily farming fleet, with their firepower and armour you can sortie without battleships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149529
I see that unlikely though. We have a quest for that composition already. Then again, it will be a different context for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149437
To me this sounds more like they will start world 6 soon rather than an event.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good map to farm ammo other than 2-3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149780
There isn't one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149780
Just run ex2, ex5 and ex21 like a sane person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149516
>>12149518
And why would they not? While it's true that everything we've gotten since November is clearable for the majority of players, it's most likely their intention to have easy maps all the way until Midway.

And aren't they aiming for a 15% clearance rate for Midway? I find it hard to believe that maps without regen will lower the rate by that much.

>>12149529
You forgot the last 2 members of the Southern Force. Asagumo and Yamagumo. They're 2 of the 4 Asashios that aren't in the game yet.

>>12149780
For some reason I use more ammo on 2-3 than I gain it. It's more for fuel farming than ammo farming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149810
What about exp 37? it's better than 21.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149841
21 covers both fuel and ammo while 37 only gives ammo so you will lose some fuel over time.
If you have enough drums and you don't care about fuel gain, ex2, ex21 and ex37 may give a better result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149853
Not that anon but while we're on the topic of expeditions, what would be the best combination to just hoard resources and prepare for events/whatever comes?

Have been doing 2, 21 and 38 but thinking of replacing 2 with something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149835
Put re flag as a boss for everyone over TTK lvl80. Clearance rate is 5%.

Also, having a targeted clearance % is retarded, because it only caters a small fraction of players who can actually complete the event meaning such an event would have negative effect on 85% of the playerbase. And no sane developer wants that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149862
Ex6 for bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149862
I usually do 6, 37, 38.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149862
2 if you need buckets.
If not, 6 for baux. Or 5, 21, 37 if you don't need more baux or buckets, which might be the case for players who hoarded a lot for the previous event

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149862
Both tokyo express + #6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149866
>Put re flag as a boss for everyone over TTK lvl80.
Fuck that
I really hope midway doesnt have level scaling, it would be a huge dick move to tell admirals over 80 to get fucked while giving away a free shinano and other event rewards to newbie admirals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149866
how many players are actually active and not only have a more or less dead account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149874
>I really hope midway doesnt have level scaling, it would be a huge dick move to tell admirals over 80 to get fucked while giving away a free shinano and other event rewards to newbie admirals.
Stop caring so much about what others do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149866
I'd take Re flag over, say, Fall '13 E5 boss, any day. In fact, it'd be comparable to Spring '14 E5 difficulty. I don't think that'll lower the clearance rate by much.

And to be fair, they warned us beforehand, like as early as 4-5 months ago, that they're not going to hold back for Midway; we're apparently supposed to be stocking on resources for months beforehand.

And in the first place, I doubt they'll have level scaling for Midway to begin with, at least for the latter half of the maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149866
>And no sane developer wants that.
They want 85% of the playerbase to be trapped in LSC hell. If they make everything easy to get then there's no incentive to keep coming back. By adding level scaling you're also punishing the dedicated 15%.

[Eurofag !qUytODkcyE No.]

>>12149874
I really hope it WILL have level scaling. I don't give a fuck if others can get muh trophy ships as well if that means more happy players, which means more cash from everything which means longer life and more content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149866
Re Flag as the boss is still doable. If they want 5% clearance rate they'd put her as the map's mid-boss.

With a hime version of Ritou Seiki as escort because why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149884
>By adding level scaling you're also punishing the dedicated 15%.
That's retarded. Also 85% happy > 15% happy
All games go down that route after some time. Just look at wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149884
>>12149889
The compromise would then be for most of the events to cater to the 85%, with the occasional event catering to the 15%. Midway being in the latter category.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149874
To be fair, the most ideal level scaling is for players to feel challenged relatively to their levels but the way it's implemented is a bit unfair. Supposedly, your HQ level should reflect the level of your ships but we all know that's not the case at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149885
>I don't give a fuck if others can get muh trophy ships as well if that means more happy players
Read the post above you.

One of the biggest points of this game is collecting ships and sometimes bragging about having rare ships if you feel like that.

By adding level scaling and making it piss easy for low levels while the 80+ maps are impossibly hard then you're punishing people for playing the game because everyone in the middle would get fucked.
And there's no point if you have every newbie and everyone below 80 running around with the E5 (E6?) reward, might as well add trading while you're at it so everyone can be happy for a day or two after getting the ships they want and quitting because there's nothing else in the game for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149898
There shouldn't be level-scaling at all. If you can't meet the requirements too fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149889
>wow
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149874
I hate level scaling.

Just because my ship has extra evasion and accuracy does not mean I should have to fight things that crit me to death.

Maybe if having level 70 ships actually meant 70 more attack power and defense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149899
>By adding level scaling and making it piss easy
It's not piss easy. Also those <lv80 don't have things like 8 46cm or 6 reppus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
I'm HQ100 and I have 2 46cm and I think 2 reppu maybe. I probably could have them, if LSC didn't eat all resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
I remember having around that much good equipment in my late 70s.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who thinks level scaling is BS for the new players?

I mean, clearing Ironbottom Sound without stockpiles or fancy equipments or whatever is a million times more fun than steamrolling nerfed maps because you can't play with the big boys yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
I'm above 80 and still don't have those equipments yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149915
That's your fault for bad resource management.

Isn't equipment crafting scaled with your HQ level too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
Were you even here? <lv80 admirals didn't even have the battleship princess at the boss node among other things. Their Wo kai were flanked by cannon fodder. If that isn't piss easy I don't know what is.

And 3-star equipment are mostly luxury, it doesn't excuse you from needing to fight tough enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
>>12149904
As I said, their implementation of level scaling is quite unfair. What is easy to you may not be easy to them, that is the whole fucking purpose of level scaling: to make it a very hard but still reachable challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149904
The best way to do it is like >>12149896 suggests.
Couple easy events to keep people happy and one or two yearly events aimed to the higher level players that actually reward you for playing the game and leveling your ships without level scaling

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149918
>>12149923
I admit that it is easy for those near lv80 but it should be hell for the others. They should add more layers of scaling.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at what low levels get in the last event, it's not like they had a much easier deal than the 100+s.

Sure they had flag DD/CAs instead of flag Rus on E5. But Flag Rus were like canon fodders in the face of the 4BB fleets we sending out.
Senkan Seiki was the real hairpuller of last E5, and you had to deal with her regardless of what level you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149931
>Senkan Seiki was the real hairpuller of last E5, and you had to deal with her regardless of what level you are
What? That's wrong, people under level 80 didn't have to deal with the hime at boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149931
Battleship princess did not appear at the boss node if you were low-levelled. For the rest of us, we had to deal with her pulling attacks from the boss due to diamond formation and wrecking our ships so they couldn't attack at night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149931
You know elitist would not mind the level scaling if the map prohibits you from brute force. That way everybody suffers with the lower level admiral suffering worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149934
>>12149935
Confirmed for not being around during last event.

Second node was the main brickwall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149912
While 46cms are hard to craft, i think i've gotten 5 reppus when i'm still in my 50s

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149918
>>12149943
Why don't you guys share your luck with others? I only have one reppu and I'm lv101.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149928
>What is easy to you may not be easy to them

See >>12149923
You didnt even need ASW equipment for lowbie E4 and it was free farm for everyone that had that version because the only dangerous thing in the whole map was a wo kai2.
Survive those two hits and you get to farm event ships for no cost at all

Only people that wouldn't be able to beat a map like that would be people that started that week and even them were getting easier maps because of being below 30 so they had a real chance at it too so it was easy for everyone below 80 while everyone above that had to suffer to get their event rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149942
I have Sakawa and had to deal with the Hime at second node and boss, if you think the boss node's hime is the biggest cockblock of that map there must be something wrong with you, low level admirals were able to sink the boss and get S rank even most of the times they reached the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149954
*if you think the boss node's hime ISN'T the biggest cockblock

I fucked that up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149949
>I only have one reppu and I'm lv101.
Let me guess, it's the kai version isn't it?
Just use the classic miracle recipe with your best carriers. I've gotten lots of 3-star planes with Kaga and Shoukaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149942
You are dumb.

How does the preboss node being a problem exclude the princess returning at the boss from also being a problem?

In the end the <lv80 admirals only had to dodge her once while we had to contend with her firepower twice as well as suffer through her tanking Yamato-class firepower like it was from a peashooter and covering the boss due to diamond formation.

Not even going to address your spurious claim about us not being there for the event, much less the implication that we didn't actually clear the entire thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149950
See >>12149930 . As I said, it was badly implemented but that does not mean it should be disregarded totally. Hopefully, they will fine tune it.

>>12149954
Looking at my sortie logs, second node was the reason I retreated the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149963
>Let me guess, it's the kai version isn't it?
No, still god bless the devs for giving out a free reppu kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149973
First of all, everyone had to deal with her at second node. Second, the problem isn't really retreating a lot, the problem was being able to sink the boss or not.

And a level 70 admiral is more than capable of having the necessary equipments for that map, putting high leveled ones on a huge handicap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149973
>Looking at my sortie logs, second node was the reason I retreated the most.

The princess at the boss node didn't cause you to retreat because you were already at the boss node, you dingus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149985
>the problem isn't really retreating a lot, the problem was being able to sink the boss or not.

Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149954
>>12149958
>>12149968
I'm just saying how it was for me and a friend I know. I managed to clear E5 but had to retreat quite a good number of times due to the second node. I didn't use logbook, but I recorded the damage I did to the boss per run (I had to retreat 6 times at the second node). Make of it what you will.
361
29
450
325
218
450
330
396
329
39
450

My friend couldn't clear the map because he kept getting crit by the BB hime at the second node. He only complained about not being able to sink the boss once, out of his last 10 or so E5 attempts; the others were all retreats from the second node due to the hime.

>>12149963
Not him, but which one? There are a lot of plane recipes which have been touted as miracle recipes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149982
I hope they're going to give us more planes on Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149989
The thing is you needed double the luck to beat the boss if you were high level, first at the second node and then praying to hit the boss while low levels just had to get past the second node and smash the boss node which had a CA instead of a battleship hime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150010
21/60/10/131
It's a pretty good recipe. Just today, it gives me 2 or 3 Ryuuseis

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150020
>>12150010
20/60/10/100
15% holo chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149985
>>12149987
The context of the post is who is the biggest cockblock for E5, the hime at the second node or the one at the boss node. Reading my sortie log, I retreated 16 times on the second node and failed to kill the boss 15 times. So yes, you guys are right. Hime on the boss node was a cockblock but frankly, not as bad as the one on the second node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150010
Well let me tell you about my experience. The pre-boss princess wasn't really a huge problem in the end because she would usually only crit one of my ships to orange or miss.

The problem was my ships not hitting the boss. I made it to the boss so many times but then all my girls decided to concentrate fire on the princess who tanked all their attacks no problem. I actually ended up doing 0 damage to the boss twice. And this was with 2 Nagato-class and 2 Yamato-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150023
16 vs 15, where's the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150023
No the context was if <lv80 admirals had it easy for E5. The answer is mostly yes since they were near-guaranteed a kill on the boss node as long as they made it.

How do I know it? Because I knew two people under lv80 who cleared E5 before I did bragging about how it wasn't an issue to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150023
Well, that was some RNG fuckery for everyone, but I was questioning the "Looking at what low levels get in the last event, it's not like they had a much easier deal than the 100+s." part. I agree that the second node was absurd, but it couldn't be avoided by anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150022
The Kai version of Ryuusei and Suisei is sure hard to get. I've got like 1 RK and 2 S21A

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150034
Model 12A is much easier to get than ryuusei kai from my experience.

Just do 20/30/10/40 with a CV flagship for your dailies and eventually you will have tons of them, ryuusei kai on the other hand is rarer and the recipes are much more expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150020
Huh, not 20 steel? I'll try that I guess.

>>12150022
But that's the minimum recipe. Unless you mean the minimum recipe is a miracle recipe?

>>12150024
>4 BBs
There's your problem, you should've used 3. Daytime double attack made things a lot easier for me at night..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150026
Not much. Hence why I agreed in the end that the Hime on the boss node was a cockblock as well but the frequency of getting sent back on the second node was pretty frequent.

>>12150032
>>12150030
While I understand that the original argument was how lower level admirals have it easy but I'm arguing specifically against >if you think the boss node's hime ISN'T the biggest cockblock . My apologies for causing a misunderstanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150046
>you should've used 3
Not viable without Yamatos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150046
I tried 3 BBs for ~10 runs and didn't have much luck so I switched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150020
>>12150022
These things give too many Ryuuseis. I just want my Reppu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149942
>>12150010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yah2crti8UM

I guess you must be lucky as hell if what happened to me at 12min of the vid seldomly happen to you. Because that WAS what I got most of the time, and that was why I consider E-5 hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150046
I forgot to say, what does 3 BBs have to do with air superiority at all? You can get air superiority no problem with 4 BBs, I know I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150048
I wasn't the guy who said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150057
IIRC 4 BBs need that multirole plane and all Reppus, while with 3 BBs, you can use 12A and/or damecon

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150046
You could get AS just fine with 2CV, the problem is that they didn't have any free slots left afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150049
I did it without the yamatos and for me it was much easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150057
So that your carrier can still carry their weight without being burdened by green planes? I went through with 3BB3CV because I rather face 1BB at the submarine node than 2BB.

>>12150062
You may not be the guy who says that but I'm referring to >>12149954 who corrected himself at >>12149954 .

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150049
Says you. I don't have a Yamato-class or Nagato. My Mutsu was level 1 when the event started and level 27 when it ended. (First round of 1-1 sparkle runs brought her to level 4.)

As for the other 2 BBs, I rotated the Kongous, 2 at a time.

>>12150054
Kaga gives me a lot of blue planes; not sure about Shoukaku but the number of greens she gave me was decent.

>>12150057
>>12150072
Welp, I don't know then. Though my carriers could consistently kill the weak mobs; maybe that's that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150078
Fuck, I mean "corrected himself at >>12149958 "

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150078
Ta-class were a non-issue. The problem was hitting the boss which was why the extra 2 BB day attacks and another BB night attack was a great help. After I went 4 BBs I even managed to kill everything except the princess on some occasions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150096
*in day battle

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150096
I guess it was my luck then because BB on submarine node pretty much wreck my ships for some reason when I run 4BB, this is with Nagato and Kongous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150089
I spent good 30k on 3BB3CV. While having easy preboss was nice, it didn't stop my carriers from getting crit before they even had a chance to attack the boss, leaving me with only 1-2 active ships. You can guess how often they hit the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fine with anything they throw at me except for Fall E-4 again or Elite/Flag Re-class.

Scratch that. I might cheer if they let lowbies have a taste of Elite Re.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150096
My carriers were getting wrecked by Tas and subs in that shitty south node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150109
Heh, another reason why I ran 3 BBs 3 CVs. Torps' accuracy is shit with ring formation but there was a good chance of it hitting something with double line, even if the chance was not as high as in line ahead.

That said, the damage only really mattered if the torps did a critical hit.

>>12150114
Can't argue with RNG there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150115
>I'm fine with anything they throw at me except for Fall E-4 again or Elite/Flag Re-class
As you wish, now look forward to Re Kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150115
Frankly, I will eat any shit the devs throw at me if and only if they don't bring back regenerating health gauge. That thing is bad for my mental health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150115
Don't worry, they'll be mostly day battles.

>>12150121
Beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.]

There's really no reason for keeping the Type 2 Recon Aircraft is there?

[Anonymous No.]

The problem I have with level scaling is it's so arbitrary. It worked back in Arpeggio, because it really catered to new players when the scaling maxed out at 45. But the difference between a level 80 player and veteran isn't much. It's easier than ever to collect rare ships and that matters far more than leveling. So why is it that leveling is the biggest contributor to HQ level?

I think scaling should be limited to early maps with simple rewards, like Amatsukaze. Then rather than scale according to level, which fewer and fewer active players will be low enough to meet, scale it to fleet quality. Introduce a system that grades equipment and ships and make the map reflect it. Keep compass requirements, don't factor in ship levels, and scale drop rates to discourage throwaway DD spam. New players will use what they've got while old players can dust off some favorites and not worry about stats. And then give every event a few extra operations with amazing rewards and no scaling to challenge everyone else. Not like Sakawa, but like Yamato. Also maybe add increased rates per low rarity craft to LSC so it's not as much bullshit to people who need a second chance.

[Anonymous No.]

Kasumi guy really never wavers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150143
Are you that tight on space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150150
50 or so free space.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally got my Z1.

Now to craft Z3/Bismarck.

[Anonymous No.]

Ahh fucking come on now, 4-2.
8 Mutsu.
3 Akagi.
5 beaver.
450+ S-rank
No zuihoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150457
To think I got that thing again from 2-5.

Git gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150457
Just try 5-4, they drop like candy there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12148060
Ok, what the hell, I finally gave 2-5 a try, using CAV, CA, 2 DD, 2 CVL, and get sent to the fucking Wo node and have to F5 so I don't lose a million bauxite. So much for compass rigging formation.

I guess I'll try CAV, CA, CL, 3 DD a try and if I get fucked over again I'll have to resort to 4 BB 2 CV or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150148
I guess that's another way to attempt for an S rank other than with Isuzu + 4 Kongous + Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150484
With 2 CVLs I can get air superiority at the Wo node, and I won't lose much bauxite either. Git gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150484

Wouldn't it be easier to just abandon the CVLs for more CA/Vs or KTKM and Ooi? The north route night node is nothing to fear on this map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150484
With that formation it just has a chance to go to the blue node, it's not fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150501
Is that really the case? That Kai CA seems intimidating to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150509

I've had to retreat due it once so far. It could just be my luck showing. I binged on some LSC the other day so didn't bother farming for Urakaze yet; got my medal and got out of there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150498
>>12150504
Obviously I didn't bother bringing enough air superiority for the Wo node because I thought it was 100% to the blue node as the post I quoted suggested. What's the fucking point of using 2 CA(V)/2DD/2CVL anyway then if it doesn't guarantee missing the Wo node?

>>12150501
I was originally going to run 4 CA(V)/2 CLT but I decided instead to go with what I (mistakenly) thought was a compass-guaranteeing formation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149424
Is that 360 LOS with or without equipment?
I'm confused at the required LOS in that map

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150524
Maybe your effective LOS not enough?

I used 4 CA(V)s 2 CVs, tanked the Wo node, S ranked the boss node and got an Urakaze. Still the only time I made it to the boss node so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150535
Just bring a lot of LoS equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150535
Equipment LoS must be >50.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150535
see >>12148973

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150056
Just watched the video. And I must say: Dear god, the lag. Even at its worst my laptop never lagged that much, and certainly not for a half hour stretch.

>I guess you must be lucky as hell if what happened to me at 12min of the vid seldomly happen to you.
Well, first things first:
>not whole fleet sparkled
There's your problem.

For the run in question, Mutsu and Yamato were the only ones with sparkles; they ended up remaining in green health at the end while everyone else got crit to red. For the second run, well, those without sparkles still suffered some.

Back when I was a noob I used damecons to clear 4-4 and 5-2, but they were usually wasted; I wouldn't be able to clear the map anyway. Now that I'm wiser and more inexperienced, using damecons actually seems to have a more positive effect. Both times a damecon was used up in E5, I dealt severe damage to the boss (one of the sinks and one of the 300+ damage runs IIRC).

Of course, it helped that I made sure that all my ships (both main and expedition) were sparkled before I sent them out. When I first started E5 I had around 10 hours left before the event ended (I spent a long while hoarding resources as well as preparing sparkles for a mega push on E4 and E5 on the final day; I'm the anon who cleared E4 without using a single bucket); I cleared E5 with 2 hours to spare. I made sure to resparkle any and all ships that lost their sparkles; sparkling took up more than half of my 8 hours (one particular sparkling session took up almost 2 hours), but the end result was well worth it.

The wikia community may be shit, but some of their advice is sound. At least, "always, ALWAYS sparkle your fleet for E5" certainly was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150567
(continued)
As for your equipment... you only really needed 7 strong green planes to get air superiority at the boss node. You had 8. An extra attack from Akagi could have helped a bit some. (Eg. Reppu/Reppu/Reppu/Suisei 12A on Taihou, Shiden Kai 2/Ryuusei Kai/Reppu/damecon on Akagi, Shiden Kai 2/Ryuusei Kai/Reppu Kai/damecon on Kaga would have given you 367 air power; boss node needed 320.)

No Taihou here, so I used Shoukaku instead; I realised that I didn't dare to advance past the second node if she was in red and only had one damecon (one of my 6 retreats was because of this), so I stacked two on her instead. It worked for the most part; Akagi and Kaga didn't get crit to red too often.

Finally, you only really needed one expedition to the boss node; it sometimes oneshot the weak targets, and when it didn't, it usually took more than half their HP, making it easier for me to kill them and harder for them to severely damage my ships. Non-boss support didn't help me much against the BB hime, and my fleet was strong enough that the other nodes didn't bother them much either way.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, so for some easy, north route 5-4 farming, what would you bring on top of 2CV + 1 drummer CAV? 3CLT? 3CA with DA setup?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150567
Wikia retards don't bother to sparkle. That's jap voodoo magick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150547
LOS has nothing to do with it (and I have plenty of that anyway); my problem isn't reaching the boss node, it's taking an unwanted route to get there. I didn't want to run 4 CA(V)/2 CLT and have to fight the Wo with no carriers or F5 every time I get sent south.

I switched to CAV, CA, CL, 3DD and got to boss node fine, but then wound up with 3 ships hit to red (Beaver gets hit to 1 hp by the fucking CL) and and the Ta ends up the only survivor as orange-hp Choukai can't do enough damage to kill it. Well, at least that counts for the daily.

[Anonymous No.]

>Now that I'm wiser and more inexperienced
Umm, is that a typo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150587
Well, I still think it's better to just tank the Wo node. No dead end bullshit, no night battle node bullshit, so it's actually not too bad of a route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150597
Sorry, yeah. Meant more experienced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150549
>>12150550
>>12150562
T-thanks oniichan. Time to do 2-5 again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150599
Well I might have to do that, further attempts at north route with 1 CL and 3 DD result in Beaver constantly getting hit to red by elite CA double attacks (flagship CA always misses, go figure)

>>12150573
I run it with a fast BB, a CA, CAV Tone with 1 drum, Jintsuu with 3 drums, 2 CV.

>>12150567
I had zero trouble with E-5 with no sparkles other than ones gained from MVP'ing (Yamato was pretty much permanently sparkled). Used Yamato, Nagato, Mutsu, 3 CV, boss support. Once I switched to line aboob for Hime node instead of double line I made it past her about 70% of the time instead of 10% of the time as my ships would usually get hit to orange or I'd dodge both her attacks. Killed the boss outright about half the time I reached her, chipped her to varying degrees every other time.

If sparkling really had been necessary I wouldn't have even touched the map, fuck wasting hours running 1-1, I don't even do it for expeditions other than #16.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150634
Why bring BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150634
> 1 CL and 3 DD
You could take some CA(v)'s instead of DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150578
>Wikia retards don't bother to sparkle. That's jap voodoo magick.
But that's wrong.

Doing a quick search on the Spring 2014 event page:

>It is strongly recommended to sparkle your entire fleet, boosting your evasion against Battleship Princess in E node and the boss node.
This is from a wikia tip for E5.
>Sparkle before you sortie for increased evasion.
And this from E4.

From wikia comments:
>SPARKLE! If you wanna clear this shit, sparkle everyone without exception.
>and yes, sparkling all of your ships is not even a 'recommended' - it's a 'must'.
>i recommend you should sparkle every single ship before e5 sortie. Your evasion would increase by quite a lot, which would potentially help you to evade battleship himes attack.
>Also, yes. love of god, this is the 1st time i've sparkled my ships every. single. time.
Comments for E5.

>Take your time to sparkle your ships in 1-1 solo. You'll save hours of time and some buckets doing this.
>Are you sparkling your ships? Normally I don't bother but I've found that this is one map where it makes a huge difference.
>comment on E4, one that others have said previously, but bears repeating: SPARKLE!
Comments for E4.

In fact, one of the very few people on the wikia who didn't sparkle his fleet for E5, Zoidiect, was chastised by everyone for it.
>Zoidiect, you really should sparkle. I know it's annoying, but do it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I don't sparkle and I have no issue clearing maps. If it takes more runs, so be it. But running 1-1 too many times would rub me at wrong places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150567
The lag is most likely a patch thing. Right after the 4/23 patch, the game will start lagging after you play for a short period of time(half an hour maybe), and they fixed that in a few days.

I did sparkle my fleet when I was doing Fall E-4 and E-5, and it might help in some degree, but when I was farming E-5 for Yahagi without sparking, I found that these isn't such big difference, so I stopped sparkle for hard map from then on.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought everyone in /jp/ have installed Wikia Comment Quality Improver script. What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

Shirohime Quest is the fucking new big shit, KANCOLLE IS DEAD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150501
>>12150509
>>12150514
>>12150587
>>12150599
>>12150634

The Flag Ri Kai in the 2-5 night battle node isn't too bad. I've been farming with 1CL 2CAV 3DD since 2 days ago and most of the time my DDs were able to tank her cut-in at light or medium damage. And the Elite Ri were jokes with their scratch damage double attack for like 95% of the time. I only had to retreat about 20% of the time at the night battle node, which is only as about as bad as being sent home by Flag Ru.

Though I'd agree that this composition is not for everyone. You need a very high level fleet in order to perform well using the north route. So if you don't have that to back you up, just stick to the south route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150637
Because CAs don't reliably kill the BBs at boss node in day combat, especially if you get 80% damage engagement, and with 2 CV and a drum ship you risk your S rank going into night battle with too many enemies alive.

Maybe if I used blue planes on my carriers instead of reds I could get away with only CAs, but then I'm burning more bauxite in exchange for saving fuel and ammo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150661
Release date never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150665
That depends on your CAs I guess, I kill everything during day battle 85% of the time with 2CV 1drummer CAV, 1CLT, 2CA for double attack (2*3gou + sanshiki + type0)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150664
>And the Elite Ri were jokes with their scratch damage double attack for like 95% of the time

Well, the RNG really fucking hates me then. I don't remember having that much trouble with them on 5-3 either, but now that's the only thing that's wrecking me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150634
>I had zero trouble with E-5 with no sparkles other than ones gained from MVP'ing (Yamato was pretty much permanently sparkled).
If it worked for you then all's good, I guess. It's just that for most people sparkling does make a positive difference.
>line aboob for Hime node
Most interesting. Maybe that made up for the lack of sparkles.
>Killed the boss outright about half the time I reached her
Damn, that's lucky.

>>12150656
Never received the lag at all. Just about the only issue I had with it was that torps now take a longer time to reach its target in the animation.

Regarding the sparkles, I did notice a difference for myself, but it could very well be placebo. Has there been any new information on wikiwiki regarding sparkle experiments?

>>12150664
Fuck the night battle node, I got crit to red at the first node because of the resultant torpedo phase. And I can't even say I hate RNG though because my only boss drop was Urakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150640
The whole point of 1 CL + 3 DD is 100% north route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150634
>fuck wasting hours running 1-1,
Fucking finally. My nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150681
>Has there been any new information on wikiwiki regarding sparkle experiments?
I think there's no thorough research for that so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150659
What's that? I just adblocked the fuck ouf of the comment section.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150535
with equipment, I tested going at 359 and no boss node.
maybe I'm wrong but 40/40 run always reached boss node when I have minimum 360 LOS using north route..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150695

[Anonymous No.]

具体的な数値は不明だが、艦娘の索敵より装備の索敵の方が効果が高い模様
2014春イベント同様に単純な合計値ではない。以下の数式が現在の有力説。
(偵察機の索敵値×2)+(電探の索敵値)+√(左記以外の索敵値) ≧ 76
Just equip damn recon planes if you can't reach boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150711
What is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150711
What the fuck?

>>12150713
And they think we aren't doing that already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150718
Equip more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150723
>√
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150727
^0.5 would be better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150681
I think we were discussing about what make up the difficulty of E-5, and then we start talking about sparkle.

Anyway, my point is, with a few damecons available, the BB hime in the second node won't deny me for much, but the BB hime in the boss node really make me(and maybe some well known yoshiyoshi Japanese player) suffer, a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150717
>>12150718
http://userscripts.org:8080/scripts/show/427616
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150713
Well, the most useful thing there for me is the knowledge that recon planes count for twice as much as radar. I wasn't having any problem anyway though just sticking T33 on my DDs, Yamato plane on CL/CA, Zuiun/Seiran on CAV, and a T32 on CA.

If I decide to go back to the CVL method at least I know now whether I need Saiuns or not.

>>12150731
The funny thing is, for me the biggest problem at boss node was actually my ships wasting their attacks on Wake during day combat and not killing anything else (and then targeting the others at night). Once you chipped Hime to yellow she couldn't shield Wake anymore anyway, then it's just a matter of RNG making you target her directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150731
Maybe it was just me, but didn't damecons make killing the boss harder?
On BBs it either meant you have to forfeit either the scout plane or the type 3, either which heavily impacts their damage output.

As for the CVs... I don't know how amazing Taihou is, but if I had to put damecon on both Kaga and Akagi it would've meant no air superiority on the boss node. Well, you can with 3 CVs, but that means you'd be left with 3BBs, 2 of which with either no scout planes or no type 3s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150729
^.5 for what
√ != ^.5

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150790
I use 3BB3CV, and put Mutsu as flagship, no damecon on BBs. The weakest Mutsu is well protected by two hotels and 3 CVs which are not used for dealing damage. I can easily reach boss node 19 times out of 20 attempts, and enter night battle with less than 3 target left most of the time. Never try 4BB2CV because of the troll sub.

And in terms of air superiority, Taihou might be slightly better than Aakagi and Shokakus, but won't make much difference. Kaga is the best one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150826
I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5.
I only had Musashi and it absolutely befuddled me why people would want to bring 3 crit magnets to that map.

[Anonymous No.]

So restarting a new legit account. Meaning no scripting or whatever. Restarting reminded me of how annoying the early stages of the game can be. Banned cause of that KCT shit, but that's besides the question I'm about to ask.

Do any of you still get error-ko from a returning expedition? Like when that notification that the fleet has returned on the main screen appears, I get error-ko'd for about 1-2 minutes. I get error-ko'd on browsers, standalone flashplayer, and KCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150877
No. Just you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150802
how are they any different ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150877
You too? It's been happening to me a lot on KCV recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150915 >>12150877
whats the scenario for you guys?
I'm using KCV as well but whenever I get error girl my wifi got disconnected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150915
>>12150952
For me it's just I click on the notification, and then error-ko. I refresh, the notification is still there, but if i click it again, it get error-ko'd yet again. This goes on unless I wait a few minutes or so before clicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150952
Same as >>12150963 and also in other instances where the game loads before changing to a new screen like in sorties

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150877
Still scripting and no neko, git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150877
Try clearing cache?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150484
Because you aren't supposed to bring 2 CVLs you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150873
I only had Yamato and it was perfectly fine, Mutsu and Nagato get critted by the Hime just as easily as the carriers anyway. Taihou was the biggest crit magnet, always getting hit to red while Zuikaku (the carrier I wouldn't have been using with 4BB/2CV) always only got hit to orange.

>>12151043
Try reading the fucking post I was responding to, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151032
My scripts have a delay of 3 minutes after fleets return, to compensate for that.
So it would be 2-3-5, 33 minutes to check and to refuel, then 2-3 expedition, 33 minutes wait, refuel. I have never gotten a neko or a ban until I accidentally left KCTool up because I was checking construction for LSC. I'm not talking about scripting or anything like that. I'm asking if people still get a error-ko screen after clicking their expedition notification afterwards.
Unless you actually have a script that'll resortie with no delay asides from refueling and expedition choosing factors, your post has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

>>12151042
Did, several times. Seems like it's just server sided for API. Could be proxy issues when using browser non-api.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151189
If you're using KCV then try looking at your error log to see what's the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150484

Well that at least conforms the part that says E > H path isn't 100% thing.

Was it a one time thing for you? Or did you not bother with it afterwards. Would like to know if it's a once in a blue moon thing like drifting to node E in 5-3 using branching comp, or if the chance is more random than it was suggested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150873
>I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5.
Nope. Just guts and patience.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys deal with fatigue when grinding 3-2? Do you just wait it out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151718
Are you talking about the hyper grind? Just keep going. Your MVP probably wont reach fatigue at all, and all that matters is your cvls do well during the air phase, and have enough accuracy to eliminate the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150731
Yeah, I guess we sidetracked a bit.

I guess different people experience different brickwalls because RNG.

>>12150873
>I guess only those with the luxury of owning both hotels can work 3CV on last E5.
Ohai.
I just so happen to be this guy:
>>12150010
>>12150089
Mind you, Mutsu's still unremodelled, and Shoukaku's still in her 30s.)

>>12150907
√ is clearer and less confusing than ^0.5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151718
Prepare two to three fleets worth and rotate them after every sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151720
How do you increase accuracy anyways? Just leveling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151727
Equip yellow guns, and have them be around 30-40. I do it at 20 though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151731
So, I should use 1BB, 3CVL,1 SS + flagship I want to level for grinding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151722
>>12151553
Did you bring 3CVs because you don't have enough Reppus?

[夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12151718

Bring a ship that you want to level, 1 dummy SS, and 4 CV/CVL and equip them with torps. I personally recommend 5-4-A because the exp gain is much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151741
Nope. I wrote >>12150078 for my reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151741
No, it's to avoid the southern preboss node, and it's also so that all my ships are able to attack in the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151736
Well, the way the guy does it is he uses either 1 BB/BBV/CA/CAV as flagship to level them up.
Then slaps on 3-5 cvls with 1 dive bomber on each, and the rest of the slots filled with yellow guns, and one of the CVLs running a Saiun. It all depends on what he's trying to level up though.
If he wants to level up a BB, he keeps it as flagship, and stocks 3-5 CVLs, SS optional.
If he wants to level up a CA/CAV, he'll bring either a team of CA/CAVs with zuiuns so they don't out damage the flagship CA/CAV. Again, SS optional.
Not sure how he goes about leveling up DDs/CLs. Though classes that can equip recon planes are able to hyper level at 3-2-1.
The goal is to get your flagship MVP, so you get 1,152 or something EXP per sortie, and farm as long as you have resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151736
If you want them to consistently score MvP, it should be:
Flagship (with double/cut-in attack setup if applicable, or just with the best equipment you can manage)
1 SS
1 BBV (3 recon planes and 1 bomber)
And like... 3 DDs, or CLs but without recon planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151751
>Though classes that can equip recon planes are able to hyper level at 3-2-1.
Can you explain this more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151773
easy mvp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151773
Daytime double attack. Means they deal double damage so they're more likely to get MVP.

[Anonymous No.]

That's an interesting route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151773
New recon plane mechanic.
Any ship that has a recon plane in 3-2-1 should be able to proc a CI/DA.
Like the Sendai Class or the Nagara class.
The only CL classes/ships that can't equip seaplanes are the Tenryuu, Kuma Torpedo, Yuubari, and Izusu Kai Ni.
So you can still hyper level up say, Sendai or Naka in 3-2-1 efficiently.

DD's can't, nor can SS obviously. SSV can equip recon planes, but it's stupid to do anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151785
>3 CAVs
My Mikuma and Kumano are still a long way away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151785
You will get that route if you're going for 2CAV, 2CA and 2CLT as well. It's pretty rare though.

[Anonymous No.]

I know this is a stupid question, but what does luck stats do again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151797
Most obvious effect? The higher the luck, the higher chances of getting a cut-in which is extremely powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151797
Increases chance of getting rare ships and equips as drops or crafts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151797
Total fleet luck >= 200, you can get to boss unscathed.

[夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12151785

I don't think it will pass the gold Ru node effectively. 50% survival rate, I'd say.

>>12151797
Luck increases critical hit chance. Trust me, I played enough MMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151816
If you sparkle the fleet it's 80% of the time. Worth the trouble considering one run only costs around 150~180 oil/ammo (that's including night battle on boss node).

[Anonymous No.]

How likely is it for the rest of Myoukou class to get k2's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151825
At this point, pretty damn likely. They're passing over the more popular ships that have a kai-ni in pretty damn high demand. I.e Haruna and Sendai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151825
It's pretty much guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151826
>Sendai
Is Sendai really that high demand? When people talk CL, they think of Agano class, Isuzu and Yubari and even Nagara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151834
>Isuzu
Yeah right

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151835
Think Izusu has decent ASW

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151834
I think when people talk about the Agano class, they mostly talk about how much resources they've spent obtaining them as opposed to how much they want them to get K2'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151841
>>12151835
Whoops, what I meant was popularity. Then again, Naka got her Kai2.

[Anonymous No.]

rate my fleet pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151834
Yuubari is the best CL
Naka the most infamous
While Isuzu is everyone babby first CL until they get Yuubari
Agano are just trophies and dock cheerleader that will never be sortied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151842
That was to commemorate "2-4-11 of Love" being approved for Joysound.
Naka also had her own themed dish in the Kancolle cafe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151842
Naka has her fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151835
>what are Isuzu farms

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151844
D, C, A, C, AA, F

Wouldn't the average be C?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151844
What's the context?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151854
lol yeah I used to have wakaba and shimakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151857
Can this get through 4-3?

[Anonymous No.]

rate my fleet pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151861
Have you read the branching rules?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151863
1/0 will not duel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151834
Most people expected Sendai cause of that whole third sister thing.
And 2/3 Sendai Class have Kai Ni, like 3/4 Kongou class have Kai Ni.


Agano class is already pretty damn strong. Plus they're more of a novelty class anyway.
Nagara class only has Izusu and Abukuma that are actually popular. Most of the other Nagara class members are overlooked or passed over.Hell, most of the Kuma class are more popular than the Nagara class. Kuma herself is more popular than Nagara.
Yuubari is only popular because she's the best at ASW. I'd rather use Naka Kai with a Seaplane equipped, then Yuubari at all. And I fucking hate Naka.

>>12151846
>Yuubari is the best CL
Poor evasion, poor armor, average firepower even with her 4 slots, average torp damage, decent AA, low LOS, decent luck, poor health, can't equip seaplanes. Might as well use Kuma-kai instead of Yuubari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151863
10/10, would torp again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12150457
8 this month at 5-4, 95% A/B ranks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151868
Quit talking shit about mai waifu and her delicious melony navel

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151868
Yuubari still has the highest ASW, and that's the main purpose of CL anyway. Besides, she's popular for the character, too.
The seaplane update did change things a bit, but that's just a recent thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151868
>Poor evasion
Placebo

>Poor armor
Doesnt mean shit.
For this game, armor fall into BB class and non BB class.

>average firepower
Doesnt mean shit, Yuubari still rekt shit at night which is all that matter.

>average torp damage
Anyone bar the lucky DD and CLT have no use for torpedo.

>decent AA
And?

>low LOS
And?

>poor health
See armor. DD and CL all get 1shotted by TA and Re. It doesnt mean anything

>can't equip seaplanes.
Are you seriously bringing CL to double attack?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151785
Where do these people get all those type 32/33 radars?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151785
Is this 100%?
2DD
3CAV
CVL

Is there a min LoS that I should aim for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151863
epeen/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151876
She's pretty oily.

Though Kalahari melon oil is good for your skin, supposedly.

>>12151879
Of course. Not disputing that, but outside sub hunting, she has no real use except for waifu appeal. Nor does she deserve the title of 'Best CL'.

>>12151884
>Placebo
Hah.
>Doesn't mean shit
Hah
>Doesn't mean shit, Yuubari still rekt shit at night which is all that matter
IF she survived, then sure.
>Anyone bar the lucky DD and CLT have no use for torpedo
Of course. Which is why I would rather use a CLT over Yuubari anyway.
>And?
Nothing. She has decent AA. Nothing to comment or debate on.
>low LOS
Enjoy having a blind waifu.
>See armor
I still would rather see a CL survive more in other places.
>Are you seriously bringing CL to double attack
Why not?
I don't see how your post proves that Yuubari is the best CL. Only usage for her is sub warfare.If you want to have her be the best CL in your mind, then fine.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like it's time for LSC, anyone want to recommend a Yamato recipe to me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151901
>she has no real use except for waifu appeal
Who is going to carry those drums for those Tokyo Tokyo Express expeditions anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151905
7000/7000/7000/7000/100

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151897

At least 95% if not 100%, which is good enough imo.

LoS wise,
Just equip a seaplane + best radar you have on all your CAVs plus a Saiun on the CVL and you should be fine. If that still doesn't work, then replace a CAVs' radar with a second seaplane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151905

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151901
CLT != CL
In map where are you need CL, Yuubari is clearly the bet.
See 5-3, 4-4 and 5-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151918
CL for 4-4? Since when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151918
None of those maps really needs a CL, and what do you even bring a CL to 5-4 for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151924
I have a feeling it's for the drums.. lol

[夢幻 S. Ephemeral !ztZDB7MARE No.]

>>12151905
Depends on your resources and desire sensor.
>>12151924
He's probably referring to drum carrier where CAVs are better alternative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151927
Ah, forgot about those since I use a CAV for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151930
>>12151915
>>12151908
2 attempts at 6000/5000/7000/2000/20 : 1 Kongou, and 1 Ise. I guess my desire wasn't at the right level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151905

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151939
It's ok, I'm sure you'll get your Yamato while XLSCing for Starship Enterprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151942
Fuck you. I got another Ise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151947
nice rng

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151922
For the trollsub.
Of course you can ignore it and just get A rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151951
I prefer using the 2 obligatory DDs for ASW duty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151901
CLs' only edge over CAs is sub hunting; anything else CAs can do better. Hence, when they compare CLs they only compare their ability to kill subs. And Yuubari is the best at killing subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151861
You need 2 CAs.

>>12151863
Context?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a name for the 5-5-A D rank grinding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152113
timeru wasteru

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152113
Kika.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152136

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152142
But I graduated from LSC already
Took less than 40 total tries for everything (Bismarck, Yamato, Taihou, Yahagi, Mikuma, Zunships, Maruyus)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152145
12 Zun ships, Musashi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152147
>Musashi
>LSC
Not yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152145
I still haven't gotten any of them.
Fuck this game. Fuck you. Fuck everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152145
You're never free because they will add new ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152152
Bets on Shioi and Musashi being added to LSC

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152145
Graduated with tons of resources.
I only do PVP nowadays while waiting for Midway.
Dead game
Dead thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152145
I graduated within 20 tries and Musashi came from Fall event. Now I try to play as little as possible so my resources don't hit the 300k limit.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is leveling ships so annoying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152223
Because love in general is annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12151911
Nice.
So what were the exact requirement?
The exact 3CAV 2DD 1CVL? Can I play around with the # of CAV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152229
You can do 2CAV 2DD 2CVL.
I don't think you can reduce it to any lower than that. 1CAV/1CA and you'll be going Wo. 2CAV 2DD 1BB 1CVL also takes you to Wo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152232
So 2CAV 2DD 1CVL + ?
Does CLT works?
BB and CV is no good eh?

[Anonymous No.]

2chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152238
>2chan
You mean Futaba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152236
I never tried CLT. It might work, since they do count as "medium sized ships".
BB/CV means Wo node. I dunno about BBVs but I presume it'd be the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152226
You don't deserve your girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait wut
Maruyu kai only gives +1luck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152308
read the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152311
I don't want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152316
illiterate fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152308
1.6*3=4.8
So you might get 4 or 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152323
or you can get 6 if you're feeling lucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152323
I thought it was random as well but in the screen it went from 7->10.
I was worried that they changed it to a fix +1 value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152308
Just modernized my Taihou myself, she's a proper CV now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152229

Actually, one thing that slipped my mind when I replied >>12151897, is that on top of having at least 2DD in the fleet, you also cannot have more than 2 of either CA or CAV, meaning you can have 2CA 2CAV but not 3CA 1CAV or 1CA 3CAV, or it becomes random Wo node.

And according to latest update, it also seems that you cannot have less than either 2CA or 2CAV.

So it would seem 2DD + 2CA/2CAV is the exact requirement for 95% chance to skip the Wo.

>>12152236

I used to think CLT can cause random Wo, but after the discovery of the 2CA/2CAV part that was mentioned above, I'm not so sure anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152354
Wait what?
3CAV is random?
I should change it to 1CA+2CAV+1CVL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152329
Only if you modernise 1 by 1. Or 2, then 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152355
I think you need to bring 2DD for a guarantee non-wo route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152355

Pretty much. Either 1CA 2CAV 2DD 1CVL or 2CA 1CAV 2DD 1CVL.

Based on information so far, the absolute minimum for 95% BEHL route is
- 1CVL to go south
- 2DD
- 2CA OR 2CAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152308
>feeding Maruyus to any carrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152383
Anything to prevent them from getting one-shot to red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152383
I feed my Taihou with Maruyus for placebos and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152398
>>12152399
That's assuming luck does anything other than improving night battle's cut-in attack chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152401
Faith plays a big role in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

First time in a 100 t-levels to get melon from all-30's

Who'd have thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152402
Frustration and desire are more important. The higher their level is, the harder RNG fuckery you receive.

[Anonymous No.]

What a heroine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152232
>>12152354
Well fuck, that explains why I got sent Wo when I tried 2 DD and 2 CVL with Tone and Choukai, I assumed 2 CA(V) posted before meant CA and CAV were interchangeable, not 2 of one OR 2 of the other. At least now I can go back to trying south route instead of suffering the night battle node (and first node CLTs) with 1 CL 3 DD formation. I guess now I'll go 2 CA and maybe grind my Chikuma in flagship slot after all.

>>12151918
She's definitely the best choice for 5-3 because she can equip 2 guns and 2 ASW, I had to switch to her for my final kill (instead of 6 DD).

For 5-4 I use Jintsuu as my drum carrier with the last drum in Tone's 4th slot, she has just 2 less armor and 5 less firepower than Mogami-class with half the cost, and she's even slightly cheaper than Yuubari. And her 98 torpedo actually can kill something off at boss node before night combat.

>>12151884
Do you seriously think armor means nothing? Sure, all CLs will get wrecked by flagship BBs in line ahead, but Yuubari's DD-tier armor means also getting critted by elite CAs and flagship CLs and even elite CLs if really unlucky. On the other hand, the best-armored CLs can potentially tank diamond formation BB hits.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there other ways of doing dailies that arent all subs on 2-3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152680
2-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152680
>>12152685
All subs + CVL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152680
Unless you're purposefully stockpiling there is no reason to do dailies with subs at all. Just pick underleveled ships and use them. Trust me, having 3rd set of subs getting close to Lv.91 with 2 others sitting at Lv.99 is frustrating at best. All that exp could've gone to other ships.

[Anonymous No.]

What have you been guys using for 46cm crafts? Been striking out for a few weeks now with 10/251/250/10 with Akashi as a flagship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152725
Just switch the flagship, it usually helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152725
Kongo, though mostly because of sentimental value. She was my first BB, first K2, first ship I married. It's all the same percentage anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152725
>Akashi
Welp, she gives 46cms?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12149450
Fuck, where are the coastal defense ships?
I totally forgot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152749
Do you really want things that are weaker then half a Mutsuki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152749
The devs forgot too so no big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152750
Well, if they consume less they'll be good for expeditions.

>>12152752
It's a big deal! How would you feel if you were a cute loli ship and everyone forgot about you. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152750
If they also eat half of what Mutsukis eat, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152763
What was that? I forgot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152763
> How would you feel if you were a cute loli ship and everyone forgot about you. .
Ask Ayanamis, they know how it feels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152772
My Ayanami is level 51 from her expeditions, I won't forget her!

[Anonymous No.]

I require tech support:
I can't log into Kancolle in IE or KCV because the sign in & choose language buttons are unresponsive.

Sorry for the semi-blog post but I just want to play Shipdaughters in KCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152819
clear cache

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152863
Tried before, no dice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152867
When it happens return the url

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152882
Like, copy and paste the URL here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152884
No in the address bar in KCV

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, so I'm doing 4-3 and I can't go to the boss node. I get to the preboss node but it haas been 4 times and it sends me north or south.

Any suggestion to get there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152942
Read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152942
Sacrifice your starter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152946
Scuttle yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152944

I've read the wiki. I get safely to G but there are no instructions on how to go to I. Instead, I've been sent to H and L the 5 times I've tried. I'm using all the Kongou Sisters, Haguro and Tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12152942
It's random from that point on. Just keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

Just cleared 2-5 with 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL and I have to say, the first node was way more of a problem than the Ru node. Not once was I turned back by Ru, but three times in a row I was turned back by an elite Ri and torpedoes in the flag CL formation, plus once a Nu crit to orange set me up for eventual failure at boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153044
I cleared 2-5 with a single sub.
git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153046
Sure thing bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153046
Teach me your secrets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153055
Just post on jp claiming to have reached the boss of a map with branching rules with a single sub that prevent you from ever reaching the boss with a single sub.

ez

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153044

It isn't nearly as bad as node A on the north path.

Just need to bring more torp bombers. You only really need 2 Reppus in the 2nd smallest slots on both CVLs in order to achieve air superiority against Flag Nu. That leaves you enough room for at least 4 Ryuusei Kai depending on how many Saiun you needed to bring. That way you can usually take out at least 1, often 2 of the fodders, leaving you a better chance of finishing off the rest. And if you bring CAVs, you can load them with Zuiun Sq 634 for more air bombing damage as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153061
I brought 6 RK along with Reppu Kai and Reppu (no Saiun), but they went and all targeted the same DD or missed every time I got the line ahead fleet, plus it was always the very first enemy attack that would crit a CVL. (But then when I get the diamond fleet they actually sank the Nu once and constantly sank CAs, go figure).

I kind of wanted Seiran and Zuiun bombing, but I didn't want to have to use a Mogami-class, and I wanted to grind Chikuma (as well as have an excuse to use Choukai on a sortie instead of PvP)

[Anonymous No.]

When we'll get best fleet?

[Anonymous No.]

Love, #hotglue

[Anonymous No.]

I miss her already

[Anonymous No.]

I miss her too

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153353

I want t buy this guy's art and later punch him in the face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153195
Please check your autism.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12148967
>>12148973
Just wanted to clarify, does sqrt(ship stat) calculation refers to individual ship or total ship LoS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153419
Considering it's inside map requirement, I think that's total LOS stat in one fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153434
Individual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153435
One single ship can't reach above 75 LOS with that formula

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone kind to tell me stories?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153044
I think this proves conclusively that an eRi > fRu

[Anonymous No.]

Other than using buckets and doing PvP, what's the best way to level up DDs and CLs? I've been doing 3-2-A with them as my flagship. They don't get MvP obviously so they only get ~570 exp per fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153512
5-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153516
explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153516
Haven't gotten that far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153512
4-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153419
>>12153434
>>12153435
>>12153442
>偵察機索敵値×2 ＋ 電探索敵値 ＋ √(艦隊の装備込み索敵値合計 - 偵察機索敵値 - 電探索敵値) ≧ 76
It mentions 艦隊, so I think it's the total LOS of one fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153523
The first node of 5-4 gives great EXP and doesn't require using buckets

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12153434
>>12153546
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153563
Welp I thought you had a clever way to get to the boss

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone found Zharay

[Anonymous No.]

Still, formula says:
recon plane LOS x 2 + radar LOS √(sum of fleet's LOS with equipments - recon LOS - radar LOS)

How about LOS from torpedo bomber? Does it count as "recon plane"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153571
He's gone, Jim.

[Anonymous No.]

recon plane stat x 2 + radar stat √(sum of fleet's LOS stat with equipments - recon plane stat - radar stat)

How about LOS stat from torpedo bomber? Where does it go within this calculation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153582
Who's going to update KCV now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153587
I can.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>12153584
Recon plane stat, since bombers like Zuiun and Prototype Seiran is included in it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Something quite peculiar happened to me.

I was leveling Urakaze on 5-4-A, but I decided to switch to 4-3 since I was leveling a DD and that map would yield more exp.

For 4-3 I just switched the CVs for CVLs and the sub por a CL, the order was DD, CAV, BB, CVL, CVL, CL.

Now, why did I mention the order? It was because when I switched the CL up to the 4th position, DD, CAV, BB, CL, CVL, CVL, the compass would send me to the J node, but then it would send me to K -> L -> M.

This happened 4 times in a row, so I switched back and I haven't touched J -> K -> L -> M route again.

This RNG, man.

[Anonymous No.]

In the new furniture, the blackboard one, does anyone know what the love umbrella scribble says?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153791
Kagerou + Teitoku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153792
Well that's interesting.
Thanks

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

logbook with effective LoS: http://1drv.ms/1nY5E07

If anyone still in 2-5, please test it and check whether the value is correct.
And i don't know whether it's a rounding error or not, but i got to the boss with 75 effective LoS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153478
submarine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153805
JSDF has a submarine named after Soryu. The entire series of that comic is mostly based on JSDF ships that share their name with ship girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Doing 2-5-38 gives really balanced income, except bauxite of course. Is there any better combination than this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153955
The only one I can think of offhand is 2-6-38.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153955
21, 37, 38.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153955
I'm running 6, 37, 38, best imho since the income is quite high thanks to easy great success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153975
Do you sortie and pvp regularly? How do you cover the ammo expense using that combo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153983
I do pvp every day, but sortie with full fleet's sporadically, just to clear some weeklies, and i don't care about ammo since is sitting at 130k, while fuel and steel are at 140k, baux is 90k, going up slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12153999
Than that might be the reason. I do regular sorties to level more ships and my ammo would run dry without exp 21 and 37. So the sweet spot for me is 6/21/37.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154006
What about your buckets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154014
Who needs buckets when you have 6x more resources than needed to clear the event

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154014
Going down really slowly, went from 1155 to 1120 in like 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154045
Please tell me your secret.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154014
Farmed them long ago, been sitting over 1200 for some time after event end, this week only i used 20ish to clear world 4 boss kill, 4-4 boss kill and 5-2 boss S-rank.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a level 66 TTK and I'm trying to clear 4-3 atm. should I start stockpiling stuff for a summer event? how much is the minimum resources and buckets I should save?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting Yamashirou three consecutive times on 2-5. A good jab at my luck, RNG. A real good jab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154089
No one knows. The best you could do is to try to reach 50-100K. Buckets wise, 200+. If you're intending to farm, aim higher: 800+, maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154077
Quests, plus since I also play from work, I sit out everything shorter than 2 hours while working on projects. I also rotate while other girls are in the bath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154089
Don't bother stockpiling until they officially announce one. They'll do it about a month in advance, which is plenty of time. The people stockpiling here have been playing so long that they have nothing better to do. Focus on clearing and collecting, and maybe stay near your regen cap if you're paranoid.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay so what am I supposed to do for the second new sortie quest?

I thought it was finishing 2-5 with Myoukou Nachi and Haguro but I guess I pulled that out of my arse.

Well at least I got them a bit leveled in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154101
>「第五戦隊」は沖ノ島沖の戦闘哨戒を実施、敵艦隊主力を捕捉、これを撃滅せよ！
>※「敵主力艦隊」（2-5ボス戦）にS勝利で達成
「第五戦隊」の3隻（「妙高」「那智」「羽黒」）+他に艦がいてもOK
S rank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154108
Oh dick me sideways really? Sod that then, I had it hard enough just getting to the boss.

Thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154108
Oh fuck me, Myoukou and Nachi is severely underleveled.

[Anonymous No.]

is ryuujou worth using now that she has a kai ni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154148
She's always worth using with subs on 2-2 for world 2 boss kills quest

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154148
As a CVL, she's now only beaten by the Chitose sisters. And maybe Hiyou class if you don't mind their slow speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154148
RJ is love

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154148
If you want the most powerful CVL, nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154154
Explain. Why use her when there are other CVLs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154160
She's cheap, have high base evasion stat and can equip 4 turbines

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154160
Because 28
She has the biggest rack so you can stick your reppu kai there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154160
1 excellent slot, 1 good slot, 2 bad slots - depending on what you need she's a good choice as long as CVL go.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been stuck on this for a while, why do people say Choukai is better than Atago or Takao? I always assumed they were better, not only because they're more popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154218
Who said this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154220
I'm in Japan right now and this seems to be the general opinion under the players I discussed the game with. One of them got actually quite upset when I mentioned dumping Choukai out of my first fleet for Atago when I started playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154220
Big boobs haters or glasses lovers maybe.

>>12154225
Pretty sure Atago should be more popular in Japan, maybe you just got someone I mentioned above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154228
but choukai and maya also have big boobs
If atago is that good, should I pick her over aoba
I just started map 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154228
Probably... It's a pretty autistic group anyway, exceeding /jp/ level. I think Atago is cute even though I'm not into large chests myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154229
Just put the biggest ships you have for World 2, maybe with exception of Kitakami and Ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154229
There are some nice pages on the wiki that compare the maximum stats of ships in their class. Otherwise, just go with the girls you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154225
They are all so shit there's no reason to compare. Haguro is good now though

[Anonymous No.]

where's a good place to level submarines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154283
1-5. Literally no damage, fatigue doesn't matter though you get 0 drops since you're getting D rank every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154283
2-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154283
What's the point of levelling subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154298
What's the point of life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154298
What's the point of farming 2-3 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154323
Gathering resources and clearing dailies.

[Anonymous No.]

If Cankolle is so popular, then why does it only ever have one continuous thread while Touhou has zillions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154336
Because we are more civilised people who don't flood /jp/ with multiple threads talking about the same thing. Also
>Cankolle

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154336
Because we're a civilized bunch that don't condone flooding /jp/ with threads when there's one already up..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154343
>>12154344
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154351
Who's this shipgirl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154351
We have no need to do so. Statistics will say for themselves.

>>12154354
Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154354
Cracklin' Oat Bran

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154354
Why, that's petty officer Louis Mashengo!

[Anonymous No.]

Will you play Kancolle 2: Castle edition when it's out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154391
Seems to be a mobile game, so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154398
I already play KanColle in my phone, whats the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154401
Enjoy your ban.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154401
Well, I don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154401
Less data usage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154401
Why aren't you playing it on an intel based tablet? Getting more than 9 hours battery life is doable easily even with core i5 haswell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154351
Man, that face is just... wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

hey i was wondering of getting into this game and if it had a engilsh patch? It seems like commie did something like that
http://commiesubs.com/commie-kancolle-kantai-collection-english-patch/
Do you guys use this and does it translate everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154674
Commie pls go and stay go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154678
What im really new and it seems pretty hard to even create a account, is it worth it?
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Register
im reading this Tutorial and i cant even make a account on dmm, its tells me This page is not available in your area. what do i have to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154687
Don't be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154690
could you maybe help me out it doesn't explain what VPN is.... do i need a proxy just to make an account on dmm or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154696
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154696
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154678
>>12154690
>>12154697
Can you fucking stop replying to him

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154696
Stop trolling, no one can be that retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154702
There exist people even more retarded than this, but they're usually too busy watching football to use the internet

[Anonymous No.]

What is the combat bonus from all fast ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154709
I would like to get into this game but the proxy business looks way to much of a bother. im too lazy right now for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154711
you go fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154711
Unknown, though due to my experience with E-4 I came to believe that they do get an evasion bonus.

[Shimakaze No.]

>>12154711
Fast = Good
Slow = Bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154716
You only need to download a program that does all the proxy stuff easy.

The only bother is maybe gettig into the lottery but a lot of people get there in the first 3 days they try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154768
First of all, there's no need to download anything.
Second - why not just bake a cookie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154774

welp, he could go to dmm using KCV. that woould be the easiest way to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is KCV acting up for anyone else? It keeps resetting itself on me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154808
not for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154787
I have no idea what you're talking about, why do you think cookies are restricted to KCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154808
Works fine for me.

What do you mean by resetting?

[Anonymous No.]

What do you do when they start doubling sub fatigue to prevent sub slaving?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154833
Nothing. I don't do subslaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154833
I don't really use subs much, so nothing in particular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154833
Just sortie them until they get crit to red, then bucket, then repeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154833

You just simply reduce resource comsumption replacing some BBs with CAs and CVs with CVLs. With the new Kai Nis, CAs are becoming a viable alternative for BBs. You'll still need a BB for second attack round during daytime.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, how do we get Zharay back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154896
Sacrifice the ship you love the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154896
Bring back his lost ships from the abyss
.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154896
We don't. He just got bored, or too busy with other stuff, like everyone else before him. He was too much of a pussy announce it properly, but it's not like we're new to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154812
Like the main settings, as in the flash setting, whether it runs on Direct, GPU or Opaque, volume levels, folder destination etc etc, keeps resetting for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154921
I wish I could pick it up, while learning to code, pipe dream though. I know basic python and C.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154921
As long as the Japanese one gets updated then I'm fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154929
Eh, I had that problem when I was trying to get KCV to work in the first place. Only thing I did was update IE, Flash and .NET, so try that I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154225
A recent time I looked at the maxed stats list I realized that the last time they buffed CAs, Maya and Choukai actually got 1 more max firepower than Takao and Atago (who get 10 more torpedo). So Choukai is technically a tiny bit better since torpedo stat is basically worthless on CAs.

Maya was objectively the best CA though until Haguro got Kai-2. Tone and Chikuma were also good, and even better as Kai-2 CAVs now.

With Parsley so active drawing new ships, I hope Choukai gets a Kai-2 (I was holding out hope last time even though I knew it was most likely Haguro). Of course historically she was the one Takao-class that didn't get major upgrades, but history didn't stop them from giving Kinugasa a Kai-2 (while Aoba still doesn't have one).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154934
I thought the english version had a lot of new cooler features.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154953
>torpedo stat is basically worthless on CAs.

What are night battles with more than 180 firepower and high cut in chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154953
I wouldn't mind more new ships from him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155037
What? Only Aoba that's worthed for cut-in setup, and even her luck is not that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155037
While torpedo stat in good for night battles, who cares about cut-ins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155055
By high cut-in chance he probably meant Maruyus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154833
I repair scratch damage.

>>12154953
Yes, Choukai probably did the most out of all IJN heavy cruisers in WW2. Some Kai 2s are based not on equipment and upgrades, but by achievements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155037
No same person would equip a CA for cut-in with night battle in mind. They can do sick DAs though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155091
I used to do that for Aoba, but switched to standard setup when daytime special attacks were implemented.

[Anonymous No.]

whats the best way to clear world 4 boss quest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155365
4-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155394
is there other cheap composition I could use besides subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155460
1CA,1CLT,2DD,2CVL works pretty well

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155487
Thanks, my subs are unlucky today.

[Anonymous No.]

So how are the new anti-scripting protections working? Was there anyone at all banned for scripting since the update came out?

I'm still going strong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12154930
If you are just maintaining and merging updates from the Japanese version, it shouldn't be too hard.

>>12155527
>new anti-scripting protections
Haven't seen any news about it. Please elaborate.

[Anonymous No.]

This is a troll, right? I hope he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155599
Legend has it that if you script at night a goth loli will come to your door and ask you to be her nii-san.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155607
I script 24 hours a day.
As long as you're not a retard and do something like no delay between expeditions then you're fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155605

And this is why it is important to sleep well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155607
not goth

>>12155608
did you run all 3 with one script??

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155605
Seems like a pretty obvious troll. He brought Sakawa to make it look better I guess, but the rest are probably a bunch of level 1 drops from 5-4 spamming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155621

ok, that would be scary...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155605
I should think so. Look at their max HP. It's their non-Kai HP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155605
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/World_2:_%E5%8D%97%E8%A5%BF%E8%AB%B8%E5%B3%B6%E6%B5%B7%E5%9F%9F#comm-74581

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155710
I don't know who is more retarded, the troll or the wikia idiots responding seriously to that. I'm inclined to say the latter are.

[Anonymous No.]

Wikipedia says kongos used type 91 AP shells. Why can't we equip them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155762
Game balance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155608
I wonder why DMM doesn't find it suspicious when a player runs continuous expeditions for over 24 hours, even if there is a little delay in between each.

I guess they're only looking for the most egregious offenders, like you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155769
It would clearly make the Kongous game breakingly OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155772
I have a 4 min delay between expeditions. And I rotate what expeditions I do everyday. When I sleep or go to work I put the delay longer, like 5-7 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155785
Rotating your expeditions is smart.

How long have you been scripting for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155785
You guys are too paranoid, I've been running 2/5/37 without any delay between expeditions and still going strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155792
Around 4 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155796
I admit that I am rather paranoid. I don'' script, but a friend of mine is considering it and that's gotten me to think about it as well.

This guy >>12155798 seems like he knows what he's doing if he's been doing it for so long. Running the same expeditions over and over for such a long time with no pauses sounds too risky for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155727
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Exercises_(PvP)#comm-74587

[Anonymous No.]

In Bep, we trust.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the hardest map you've cleared, teitokus?
I'm taking a break from leveling to clear some more maps and I'd like to know what to watch out for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155896
5-3 or the past E5 (hard version), the rest were easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155896
Fall E-4. Everything else is babbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155896
>>12155905 is correct. Take it easy on 5-3, it can be quite frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

Who has a tighter butthole? Hacchan or Iku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155914
Hacchan. Iku's a slut, I bet she routinely rammed dummy torpedoes up both her holes just for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155914
I can't really render a judgment with that censor in the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155918
But we can't discount the phalluses popping out of Hacchan's books. Sure, Iku rides her torpedoes, but Hacchan isn't entirely in the clear here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155896
Try 5-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155914
Why don't you go make a "which KanColles butt doesn't smell like petrol?" thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155947
u wanna fight m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155952
I will actually wreck you. I've been playing kancolle on a heavy tablet for 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156006

This looks almost genuine. I can't wait.

Right now my sendai is 60, I might get her to 70 just to be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

Any news about the next update?
Possibly some more kai nis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156034
next maint on 6th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156012
65 here. Steadily raising her level, I use her whenever I expect to enter the night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have a video of the Friend support fleets in action?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155858
Amen to that.

[Anonymous No.]

Just noticed something really weird.
CVL that equipped with Akitsumaru ASW Plane/Chopper in all slots can't do ASW anymore, while BBV equipped with full Akitsumaru choppers can do ASW just fine. Have to put a red plane in one of CVL slot for them to do ASW now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156298
That's how it's always been. Carriers need an attack plane to attack, BBV can attack without any sort of equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156304
If that's the case then maybe just my memory being derp, since I remembered seeing Chiyoda with full ASW planes doing ASW before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156006

My little night battle crazed CL can't be this cute. Now add Ashigara Kai Ni and we can go full bloodthirsty day and night.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you use this guy for?

+4 Dive bomb
+3 Anti-sub
+4 Anti-Air

Or is it copletely useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156472
anti air while it can bomb

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156472
It's really useful.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't believe how easy 2-5 boss node is with 2 CA 2 DD 2 CVL.
Chikuma/Tone: 20.3/20.3/type 0 recon/type 0 observation
Yuudachi: 12.7 type B/10cm high angle/type 33 radar
Shigure: 3x quad O2 torps
Chitose/Chiyoda: Reppu/Ryuusei Kai/Suisei 12A/Saiun
Poi was hit to orange at node E; the most damage anyone took here was scratch.

>>12156472
To me, it's completely useless. Not sure to others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156472
In a condition if you can't bring lots of carriers but still need air superiority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156472
I used 3xReppu and one of that for E-5 on both carriers

[Anonymous No.]

Hngg, 9 more levels to go

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156477
Can't believe you thought the boss would be hard on a 3 node route

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156499
It's not that I thought the boss would be hard, though 3 BBs at the boss node sounds kinda intimidating. It's that I didn't think I'd S rank it in the day with barely any damage taken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156504
Because they're shitty BBs

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156504
it's a fTa your CVL will 1 shot it

[Anonymous No.]

Can it repair?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156522
No; must be flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156522
Not unless it has been updated

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156522
Probably training multiple ships, mainly Hibiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156472
You use it when you have to gear up for full AA and still want your carriers to attack. It was useful for Fall E5 2CV runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156625
>Fall

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>>12156634
Southern hemisphere mate, we'll fuck you up

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156640
Uh, we follow the seasons Japan experiences.

Captcha: eingsbou season

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156642
We follow 4-corner Earth rotation ancient axis principle. It is simultaneous 4 season at once.

You educated stupids should get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156653
Excuse me? This is a Japanese game?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it finally over /jp/? Can I sleep well knowing I've completed the accursed first page?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156671
How about no 001-100?
And which is the last ship that complete yours first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156679
My bet would be #001.

I started last September and I didn't get my first Nagato until last month via LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156679
>How about no 001-100?
Done. I still have plenty to go though..

>And which is the last ship that complete yours first?
Yukikaze actually. Darn Beaver surprised me as a drop from 5-4. Nagato was my 5th battleship and I did not realise how rare she was until /jp/ complained about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12155968
Dude, I'll fuck you up. You play boats on a tablet? How cute. I work on an aircraft carrier. My nichijou is kantai collection every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156701
Working on a boat doesn't make you manly if you browse threads about Japanese ship girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156709
Nice one, I'm pretty mad now

[Anonymous No.]

To some of you who keep complaining of not getting good equipment and planes, just use wikiwiki for recipes. http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF

After spending 2700 bauxite and 20 dev items I got, besides all the usual drops:

1. this guy here:>>12156472

2. Ryuusei Kai

3. And the most special (?), a Reppu Kai (pic related). I dunno how unusual it is but since even wikiwiki doesn't list a recipe for it, this is what I used when I go it:

TTK lvl. 67
Kaga Kai lvl 30
20/60/10/100.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156720
You can craft Reppu Kai?
Show us by putting 2 Reppu Kais on a CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156720
Oh young newbie you have much to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156722

Welp, that image is the only thing I have to back my claim. It's my first time I craft it and I've been playing since a month and halve ago. The closest thing to that I have is a single Reppu I got as a reward for April's E-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156733
That's Reppu kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156724

What do you mean by that?

>>12156736

Afaik, what I got was a Reppu. Unless I've been missreading. Which it is also a possibility.

PD: Yeah, seems that I've been missreading all this time. Sorry for the inconvenience

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking about recipes, I will post this here, courtesy of futaba

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156749

Would be nice if someone translated it so you could print it as a wall poster quick reference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156755
The list is continuously updated though. The latest copy should have some info about the latest planes. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156761

I only have the left side, but it seems it's outdated.

That image has a lot more stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156761
That's from April 27th, it's still not updated with last week's new craftable plane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156764
The right one is expedition chart, which is still same since last Tokyo Express update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156749
If only Sazanami and friends as cute as the picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156770

What is wrong with Sazanami's Akebono, Oboroo and Ushio's art?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156769

Still, that craft chart seems to be more updated than the translated one.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best way to equip your CAs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156780
Like BB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156781

Sorry for being so new, but what is the best way to equip BBs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156690
Mine was #002, and almost the exact same circumstance, only I started in November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156786
2 primary + recon + whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156786
with love and patience. unless she just want to be friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156793

Implying I want to marry a BB.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Saiun participate in initial aerial combat phase and get shot down in the process?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156964
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12156801
BBs make the best wives. You don't know love until your pelvis is crushed by 30,000 tons of steel and muscle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12157031

Implying Shoukaku doesn't have more than 30k tons load

Implying her hangars won't be perfect for bearing our children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12157074
>25,675 long tons (26,087 t) (standard)
>32,105 long tons (32,620 t) (full load)

just barely made it.

[Anonymous No.]

So you guys ready for Midway?
June 6th is coming fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12157103
It's just a year from now, time goes by so fast.