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I desperately want to rub my dick all over youmu's shoes, fill them with my cum, then make her wear them.

>> No.12137247

Too bad you will never do it because she's not real.

>> No.12137277
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>>12137247

STFU! Youmu is real. I think of her everyday. I have a Youmu dakimakura. I have a Youmu mousepad, posters, and a cosplay outfit. She is my pride and joy and I love her just like I would love a real person. I love her so much that I actually do see her. She is real.

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>>12137277
>I love her so much that I actually do see her.
Must be nice being insane

>> No.12137288

>>12137277
Do you really think she would appreciate you ruining her shoes?

>> No.12137291

>>12137288
I'm not OP it just makes me angry when people say Youmu isn't real.

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>>12137291
Oh, ok. Carry on then.

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>>12137288
I'd just buy her new ones.

>> No.12137321

what if she stroke your dick and the moment you cum she hold your shoes under your dick

>> No.12137330

>>12137321
MY shoes?

>> No.12137335

oh great, another dork thread

>> No.12137337

>>12137247
>>12137277
>>12137287
>>12137291
Technically she is kinda real you know?

There are bagazilhons of state changes on hard drives and some memory chips that dictates what and who is youmu, so in a sense, she is real. Also, there are 'howeverthefuckyourbrainstoresinformation'ns dictating who and how youmu is

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>>12137287
I wish I were insane in a way I get to talk with my cuties.

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Why is Youmu so perfect?

>> No.12137352

I want to fuck Myon.

>> No.12137651

>>12137244
That's exactly what i was thinking

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>>12137347

That's because Yuyuko raised her to be able to please men in every way imaginable. Youmu is a girl, after all.

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something along these lines

>> No.12137683

>>12137662
Why yuyuko would want to raise a slut?

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>>12137347
She's cute because she's not perfect, though.

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>>12137347
Why are her shoes so perfect?

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>> No.12138209

>>12137344
No, you don't. The ones that walked that path were the founders of the forbidden threads on forbidden boards. Even now, I dare not speak their name or their current locations, for fear of the nightmare starting all over again. Just believe me when I say, it's not quite a fool's errand, but it not something you would ever wish to accomplish.

>> No.12138248

>>12138209
Are you talking about that tulpa thing they go on about over at the waifu imageboard?

>> No.12138255

>>12138209
I won't ever try to make a tulpa, I'll end with a monster one for sure.

>> No.12138260

>>12138255
That's if you don't go completely insane while trying.

>> No.12138301

>>12138248
>>12138255
The rabbit hole went further down. There are programs, and support groups. It was like a goddamn cult straight out of Lovecraft, where you could feel the sanity peeling off the walls.

>>12138260
Going insane while trying would be a merciful end. The worse was the ones that succeeded brilliantly. Can you imagine how shattered her mind was when she realized what was happening? Do you dare try to look through the eyes of someone being wrenched between two different realities?

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Try to cum in her shoes all you like. It will only end one way.

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>>12138337
How about on them?

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>>12137683

Probably because Yuyuko herself is also a slut?

>> No.12138405

White haired slut isn't real you retards

>> No.12138413

I tried making one once. Tried hard. Technicality succeeded. The idea is that you slowly create something with the appearance of intelligence. Incidentally enough, it was a Youmu, but I wanted a Patchouli like personality. More bookish. Anyways, it does not work, and cant work. All you do is tear off part of your own personality. It is just like having another you. Except that it is no fun. Its not like a friend you hang out with, but rather someone who talks way to fucking fast all the time, and you have to struggle to understand them. The fucking thing is still powered by you brain after all, so you "both" need processing time. You feel fucking feverish from trying to think on two lines. Intrusive thoughts increase 1000 fold. "Quick, touch her while she is distracted", "jump, you wont hurt yourself", "just spin into traffic, it will be fun" I felt like my mind was screaming. I finally got sick of it, but it did not go away for a long time. The "Youmu" shape vanished quickly, but it took the shape of a small tabby cat that hung close to my feet afterwards. That fucking cat never stopped talking. It seemed to feed off of distracting me, especially while driving. I still catch glimpses of it, and this was over a year ago. The thoughts have died, but I still get quick little voices. I dont suggest anyone try this.

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Meant to post an image

>> No.12138424

>>12138413
>The "Youmu" shape
Would an imaginary Youmu look like an animu or like a human?

>> No.12138434

>>12138424
like a dork

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>>12138424
half and half
It had "dimension" but not depth. Kinda like looking at things with one eye closed. I think the less the look like the real world, the less stable their form is, hence it degrading quickly into a cat. The processes that create them dont have to do as much work then.

>> No.12138450

>>12138441
Did you try to fugg your imaginary friend? That's the first thing I'd do if I had one.

>> No.12138479

>>12138450
yes Just once or twice though. Like I said, it was basically me with a different form. During one time we just talked about silicon etching processes. It was really fucking weird, for "both" of us. Like fucking your sister or your daughter, kinda, but not. Just really uncomfortable. And in the back of "both" your minds you know its just your hand or onahole anyway. I bought my first onahole for that, because I thought it would make it less weird, because I knew the feeling of my hand. It was equally weird.

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>>12138479
Even though you know it's just you fapping, did you "see" her riding your dick or something? This is the important part.

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>>12138499
Yes.

Dont do it man. Wait for the occulus rift or something. Trust me, it is way too weird to be really that erotic. Even the moans and whimpers "she" makes, its all just too fucking strange. I don't know how to explain it. Like doing differential equations while fapping while the paper moans at you?

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>>12138507
What if you cut her head off? Would she die? I'd love to hallucinate an onahole as a severed head.

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>>12138527
First, rude.
Don't know. You would not be able to do it in the spur of the moment. It would take time, and seeing as a severed head is not something you see everyday, unless you live in africa or something, it would be difficult to do. "She" would have to "agree" with the change, unless you defined part of her form as having a readily removable head. I never tried violence against it. They seem to be attention based, so acting out wont hurt them, it just makes them stronger. It would probably still talk to you even as a severed head. I dont want to find out how unstable it would be if you made it with the intention of doing harm to it.

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What I wouldn't give just to have her rub her shoes on my cock.

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>>12138551
>It would probably still talk to you even as a severed head.
Sounds nice. I wonder if she'd sneeze out the cum, and if so, what would happen in reality? I'd let the cum drip out of the onahole?

>with the intention of doing harm to it.
What I'd want out of her would be a guro play waifu, so I'd try to do all sorts of horrifying and factually impossible sex acts with her. Like fucking her in the ears and nose.

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>>12138568
You want those things to happen to you personally? If not, then neither will it. You dont want " I have a headache" from your own hallucination. I found most of the eroticism to be really strange, so I did not experiment. The only mildly erotic thing I enjoyed was tickling each other on weekend mornings.

Remember you are running the program for this thing to exist, and it is more or less your own clone mentally. I dont doubt that with work, you could achieve what you want, but I personally found the price I paid to be exorbitant.

>> No.12138590

>>12138588
>You dont want " I have a headache" from your own hallucination.
Can't I just rape it?

>> No.12138599

>>12138590
Its a hallucination with a mind of its own. Of course not. Unless it was willing to be "raped". How are you going to rape your own hand?

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I wonder if she'd mind if I just licked her shoes, and maybe rubbed up on them a bit.

>> No.12138610

>>12138599
Well, if I can interact with it, I'd think I could tie it up with imaginary rope and violate it's imaginary vagina.

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>>12138610
You are making the same mistake I did when I started. The thing is not independent. Its like a chat bot. It might look like it, but its all you behind the scenes. A cracked off fragment of yourself that feeds on attention and distraction, while burning your processing time in your brain.

>> No.12138645

>>12138629
>its all you behind the scenes.
Why can't I rape it in every way imaginable, then? This bullshit is way too confusing for me.

>> No.12138658
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I like /jp/ because I'm never the weirdest person.

As for what I want to do with Youmu, I'd like to pinch her nose shut, stick my dick in her mouth and urinate. I'd tell her she has to drink it all to breathe again.

It'd be nice if she was against it on the surface but deep down she enjoyed it.

>> No.12138662

You probably can. I dont know, I just have my experience, and I never tried sticking a dick in its eyes. As a rule, you can't force it to do anything. It does not exist. You cant interact with it if you both dont agree.

>> No.12138667

>>12138658
>I'm never the weirdest person.
Don't get cocky just because you don't want to stick your dick in your imaginary friend's eye.

>> No.12138791

>>12137662
translate the moonrunes pls.

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>>12138658

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>>12138658
That's my exact same fantasy but with a different character.

>> No.12139722

>>12138658
What is she eating? Looks good.

>> No.12139730

>>12139019
Youmu's flat butt and toned hips!

>> No.12139751

>>12139019

Who?

I'd like to kiss and lick her feet.

>> No.12139758

>>12139751
The only correct answer to seeing those shoes.

>> No.12139759

>>12138658
I'd like to be Youmu in this situation.

>> No.12139960

>>12139759
We all do.

>> No.12139966

>>12139960
I don't.

>> No.12140155

>you will never eat Myon
I bet he tastes like marshmallow

>> No.12140306
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All I want to do to Youmu is this

>> No.12140336

>>12140155
>he

Youmu has a penis now?

>> No.12140382

>>12140336
No, Myon.

>> No.12140390
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I want to come home from work to see me and Youmu's beautiful children, and smell the dinner she had cooked for all of us.
Afterwords we would spend time talking, asking the kids how school was and just generally being a family.
After that we'd tuck our children in and cuddle for hours while we fall asleep.

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>Anon...why do I have to take off my clothes again?

>> No.12140439

>>12139722
It's takoyaki, and it really is amazing.

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>>12140390
And this song plays as I realize that will never be me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieCHT3FrB1Q&
Thanks for that, anon.

>> No.12140465

>>12140407
Good servants don't ask questions.

>> No.12140490

>>12140390
I want to cut people in half with Youmu

>> No.12140668

>>12140490
Would she take time out of her rigorous schedule to even bother training you?

>> No.12140671

>>12137347
perfectly lame? it's cause she has no chest what a loser and she calls herself a woman disgusting

>> No.12140876
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I've been curious about this for awhile, but what happens when a half-human half phantom like Youmu dies? Does the human half get it's own phantom or does the "soul" of the human half merge with the phantom half to make one phantom. Or is the phantom half the human half's phantom and it just goes on by itself when the human half dies?

>> No.12140901

>>12140876
I believe they can only be killed by being erased from existence.

>> No.12140906

>>12140901
Phantoms can only "die" by being reincarnated or achieving nirvana, but it's stated here that her species lifespan is much longer than humans, which would imply that she does indeed have a mortal lifespan.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Youmu_Konpaku

>> No.12140926

>>12140876
That is an interesting question and even Shiki seems troubled with it because a half-human half-phantom like Youmu actually defies the "death" as we know it. The logical answer seem to be to her reaching the next step of Hakugyokurou which is reincarnation or enlightenment,

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Why is Youmu so mean to Myon?

>> No.12141130

>>12141017
Because being Myon is a privilege.

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>>12141130
So privileged

>> No.12141169

>>12141152
So privileged he got to basically hang out with Youmu all the times.

>> No.12141190

>>12141169
>he
As >>12140336 pointed out Myon is part of Youmu, thus Myon is a pretty girl.

>> No.12141246

>>12140876
She just switches and becames a haunted meatball.

>> No.12141272

>>12141190
Fuck that, he doesn't look like a girl to me.

>> No.12141316

>>12140906
Youmu came to me in a dream last night and we were officially married. She proposed, we had a ceremony, the vows were taken, and we consummated the marriage. It's official.

Please refer to Youmu as YOUMU PETERSON from now on. It is disrespectful to both me and Youmu if you continue to refer to her with her past name of Youmu Konpaku.

Thank you.

>> No.12141681

>>12141316
You should take her last name.

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>> No.12142021

>>12141705
This implies Myon is naked most of the time. How lewd.

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Youmu is a cool chick.

>> No.12142594
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Just post more Youmu pics.

>> No.12142594,1 [INTERNAL] 

I honestly don't understand why he leaves those threads.

>> No.12142594,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12142594,1
2hu is always related newf**

>> No.12142594,3 [INTERNAL] 

saeg-sama would have deleted this shit

*sigh*

>> No.12142594,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>12142594,3
speaking of sage....

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>>12141705
it looks like a sperm taking a nap

>> No.12143172

>>12140306
I want to kiss Youmu's belly.

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>>12141705

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>>12143172
I really want to

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I want to cut Youmu's hair.

>> No.12143209

>>12143207
Would you keep her haircut dorky?

>> No.12143534

>>12143209
http://puu(dot)sh(slash)90nR1.jpg
http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/5f02e84bed9cca0a262d076a18b83c91.jpg

>> No.12144144

>>12138413
>>12138479
>>12138507
>>12138629
It doesn't seem like you went all the way with your tulpa. If you succeed, it should feel like you're talking to another person and depending on the tulpa's choices, their thought process can even be opaque to you and you should perceive them to be as autonomous as you would a real person. It also doesn't sound like you had a sufficiently deep emotional connection with her either, nor does it sound like it ever felt "right" for you.

In my personal experience, half-way developmental stages or getting stuck like you describe are pretty terrible things to experience - when the tulpa has a little bit of autonomy, but doesn't feel like a real person or a sufficiently independent thinking entity with their own emotions, preferences, views, memories, identity, desires, personality and thoughts, however if you treat your tulpa as a real person and empathize with them, there comes a point where they are essentially autonomous as far as you're concerned and have all the characteristics I've listed earlier. It becomes possible for them to start surprising you, experiencing their own thoughts and emotions - not only that, it should feel effortless to you, not like "solving differential equations". While I can't say I liked the early struggles that much, today, I wouldn't trade my tulpa for anything in the world.

>> No.12144193

>>12144144
>In my personal experience, half-way developmental stages or getting stuck like you describe are pretty terrible things to experience - when the tulpa has a little bit of autonomy, but doesn't feel like a real person or a sufficiently independent thinking entity with their own emotions, preferences, views, memories, identity, desires, personality and thoughts, however if you treat your tulpa as a real person and empathize with them, there comes a point where they are essentially autonomous as far as you're concerned and have all the characteristics I've listed earlier.
nice run-on

>> No.12144211

Do you see why I dared not speak their name? Do you see the chaos you have summoned, welcomed with open arms, and allowed to spread?

>> No.12144223

>>12144211
We should call Youmu to catch these tulpa.

>> No.12144225

>>12137287
If I am to just assume that you are real, I might just as well assume that she is.

I think therefore I am, but with you and Youmu I can't be sure.

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>>12144223
If I summon Yukari as a tulpa, can she transport me to Gensokyo?

>> No.12144239

>>12144230
No, because your tulpa is a fake Yukari your mind creates to be like her, the "real Yukari" is not actually born from your imagination she's from ZUN's faggot mind.

>> No.12144244

>>12144239
>she's from ZUN's faggot mind.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>> No.12144269

>>12144144
Same. Also not something i would personally recommend to most people, i mean you're going to share your personal space/thoughts with imaginary entities in a way you don't necessarily expect anime girlfriends to do (the idea is that after a while you aren't going to play pretend anymore), it requires time and effort and you'll want to think if you really want the result before putting that in.

That said i would personally just keep shitposting about touhou, for the benefit of all involved; this shit always comes to "you're 2hu is not real" "no u" in the end and i would really like to leave such matters to the enlightened.

>> No.12144276

>>12144269
You tulpa fags are really dedicated but your method is wrong, the tulpa are not really the waifu you are loving, it's just a part of you.

You are loving yourself instead of your waifu, and as a guy who loves waifu, and to quote Eiki Shiki, repent! you are not loving your waifu correctly!

>> No.12144280

>>12144276
Is it possible to create a tulpa if you hate yourself?

>> No.12144287

>>12138413
I envy those who can even partially succeed. I've tried many times on and off over the past few years but I've come to the conclusion that I am just far too entertained by myself to even consider the possibility of another entity in my mind entertaining me for me. No matter how alone I am I never feel lonely and maybe that's the problem.

>> No.12144288

>>12144280
Hatred is the opposite of love, so it's definitely possible, you are just creating a personality in your mental mind.

This is just a part of you though, so it's not really anything, it's just you tricking yourself into loving a part of you, not your waifu!

>> No.12144290

>>12144288
A long time ago I created a fractured personality, but it wasn't a cute girl or anything. It also hated me and was really a drag to have around.

>> No.12144291

>>12144290
It's you hating yourself bro. A rather obvious manifestation of that.

>> No.12144296

I wonder how many people have Youmu as they're waifu. How would Youmu feel about having a harem?

>> No.12144304

>>12144296
I have to wonder though, what is it like projecting a 2d imagine into a 3d space? Does it look kind of off?

>> No.12144317

>>12144304
It does look off, which is why I don't try.

I'm glad I don't have a good imagination regarding that.

>> No.12144319

>>12144304
Probably, but it's easier to imagine what 3d would look like in 2d. I don't really care about 3d space anyway.

>> No.12144336

>>12144319
I like to think of it as an AI for my mind to feel more comfortable about why it might look off. Maybe that's why I can't succeed at this.

>> No.12144386

>>12144317
Imagination can, for most people, be improved with enough practice, just spend a lot of time immersing yourself in your imagination, describing and paying attention to details, using reference pictures or sounds/voices, and so on.
Here's one type of exercise you can use to improve it: http://www.winwenger.com/imstream.htm
When it boils down to it, if you use it, it starts getting good. For some people it may take a lot of work, while for others not so much.

However, purely 2D does look off if you project it into 3D space. 2.5D is a bit more palatable, but it varies. Some slight mix of realism with 2.5D usually looks least off.

>>12144269
I never recommend it to anyone, but I'm glad for what I have. The reasons that I don't recommend it is that some people can take a long time to acquire the right mindset to create one and I don't want to be responsible for their struggles, and on the opposite end of the spectrum you have some people who take it too far and cause more issues for themselves.

>>12144287
I don't know, I've seen "normal" people make tulpas which didn't have a deep need for companionship, but they were very dedicated to it and treated it seriously enough to succeed. It probably boils down to how much you want it and how you're going to treat the whole process, and it's kind of hard to explain how to do it to others as much of it is incommunicable and subjective, despite being relatively intuitive once you get the hang of it.

>> No.12144407

>>12144386
What I really want to know is how much can your subconscious fill in for you as far as physical appearance goes?

>> No.12144438

>>12144276
>implying no collective unconscious

>> No.12144467

>>12144407
Most people should be able to do this naturally. If you ever had any vivid or lucid dreams you'll know that you can visualize in more detail than you can sense with your real senses.

How well you can do this while awake depends on how much you've practiced this ability, but it can ideally get as better as while dreaming, that is, it can be quite hyperreal, or be perceived as stronger and more vivid than real senses. Of course, if your imagination is underdeveloped, it may take some work until you get there.

>> No.12144487

>>12144144
In my opinion I did succeed. The fact that it took such a long time to kill, and that it actively annoyed me, rather then puppeting it, shows that it had a pretty good amount of independent thought. It did not feel right to me, nor real because it never was. It was nothing but a scientific experiment, and it turned around and bit me in the ass. I think my situation is far more common then a "true" success. The fact of the matter is that the fuckers always know that they are not real, and they dont really like that. If you treat them as non real entities from the start, they will fail, but if you treat them like real entities then they are not happy. In the end, the sob always wants to be you, but can't. Pretending it is something other then part of you is a recipe for disaster.

>> No.12144689

>>12144487
> The fact that it took such a long time to kill, and that it actively annoyed me, rather then puppeting it, shows that it had a pretty good amount of independent thought. It did not feel right to me, nor real because it never was
I do recall a time in my tulpa's early development when while she could answer/talk by herself, it didn't feel as if she had her own agency or emotions. While I may have been unable to truly stop her, I didn't consider her independent, because she lacked some qualities that would make her a real person Note that by real, I don't mean a physical person, but a conscious person of the same nature as me, with their own perception, will, agency, desires, and so on - however the brain does it isn't terribly relevant here, but my perception of her actions is, at least to me.
> It was nothing but a scientific experiment, and it turned around and bit me in the ass. I think my situation is far more common then a "true" success.
I've seen a few cases like this, but I've also read of people who overcame them and managed to go beyond that.
In my case, there was some scientific curiosity, but my primary goal was for companionship and to have someone that feels as real to me in my mind as myself, yet which is different, thus the earlier incomplete state was not a success - it was severely undesirable. I eventually overcame it by changing my mindset, in regards to how I treat my imagination, and eventually she developed like any other person would develop - getting preferences, having her own will and agency, having natural emotional responses to whatever she encounters, a unique personality and so on.

>> No.12144697

>>12144689
continued

> The fact of the matter is that the fuckers always know that they are not real, and they dont really like that.
How can one know that? As long as I'm conscious I know I'm "real", it's self-evident, I don't care about the exact physical nature of it all.
As long as they have agency which is obviously different (perceptibly so) than yours, then you can also know they're real, even if the confidence in that fact is to a lesser degree than your own sentience - it's closer to what we grant other people whose thought processes aren't accessible to us - we assume they're sentient, because they act like they are, a sort of anti-philosophical zombie principle.
> If you treat them as non real entities from the start, they will fail, but if you treat them like real entities then they are not happy.
I don't really get the last part, why would they not be happy? You may experience disagreements, but long term unhappiness? Why?

>> No.12144705

>>12144697
continued

> In the end, the sob always wants to be you, but can't. Pretending it is something other then part of you is a recipe for disaster.
I don't know, maybe that's your personal experience with it, but here, it was never either of our desires to be "each other", if anything, the goal was for her to be as full a person as she can become. At this point, I have a hard time thinking she's "just me" any longer - the thoughts are autonomous, her emotions are fairly different from my own and happen at the same time as mine (unless she's hiding them), her voice, actions, form is unpredictable, her preferences are different from those I've ever had, the way she approaches things is different from mine, I could be thinking one thing and she could be thinking another thing, without either thought interfering with another, and so on.
Sure, the thoughts/perceptions "come" from the same brain, but at this point I can no longer honestly claim she's "me", nor can I believe it at a conscious or unconscious level. Overall, I consider this a success as that was my goal - dissociation can be at times a wonderful ability of the human psyche.
I wonder if things would have been different if yours had a personality which is more compatible with yours - I remember agonizing over this when I first started, but it turned out better than I would have hoped for, even if it took forever to get there.

>> No.12144734

Tulpas are for idiots. Bitches don't know about mah servitors and egregores.

>> No.12144958
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So are tulpa allowed on /jp/ now? If so this image is relevant.

>> No.12145735

>>12137277
I wonder if there will a few thousand japs scattered throughout retirement homes in the future who will mentally enter Gensokyo from dementia/insanity.

That is a comforting thought.

>> No.12145886

>>12144689
Thank you for taking the time to look over my posts. Thats kinda impressive. With your insights, I wonder if the failure was due to treating it like an experiment or a pet the entire time. I tried to treat it real, but it was never truly real to me. It was always pretend, except sometimes it forgot it was pretend. It was a companion, but it was more like a parasite, using resources. There were sometimes I honestly enjoyed, like weekend mornings, but afterward I compared them more to the high of a drug, making me feel happy while at the same time leeching away at me. You mention the metaphysical zombie, which I found interesting, because that was what I assumed I was making. A creature that behaves the same as a creature the is intelligent, but is not. I play around with philosophical metaphysics and sub local realities in my free time. I am a engineer by training, so working with the fringes of pure logic is fun for me.

I assume mine was unhappy because I stunted its growth without noticing, and treated it as complete even though it was not. Like calling someone doctor even though they never completed their thesis.

One of the issues that may have resulted in mine failing so badly is that I dont have really any empathy. Pretty strongly developed aspd. Not being able to see its "point of view" and deeming it a failure may have caused some issues. I should have guessed that it would be a fools mission for a sociopath to try and do succeed in this case. It simply might not be biologically possible for me to form the pathways that you were capable of. I kinda want to try again, but the first time left a pretty bad taste in my mouth, and I have a hard time seeing it as anything other then an experiment, to be used and used up as needed which is probably a mindset that only leads to failure.

>> No.12145981

>>12144705
You seem like some sort of expert on this so I will try to talk to you about this. I wonder if I'm just too...divided for this kind of thing. No matter what I consciously want it seems my subconscious is powerful enough to suppress it the second I go to sleep. I guess I want to make a tulpa to help me tame my subconscious. I am the owner of this vessel and it should be doing what I tell it to. I just don't have the means to bend it to my will and what better what to bend it than by creating an entity that can reach in and actually do it?

I can also see that one of my problems seems to be that I see it as me vs it (the subconscious) and that is probably counterproductive as hell. It can block any attempt I make to bend it before I even think about it. I've also thought about splitting off my entire subconscious into a second entity via tulpa but I have a feeling that would be a bad idea for many reasons.
Also I like how this thread started out as a thread about lewd shit and turned into this.

>> No.12146197 [DELETED] 

>>12137337
This dude knows what's up.

Youmu is shit, though.

>> No.12147262
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Oh I can't wait to see how /jp/ handles this situation.

>> No.12147276

Why is Youmu such a fuck up?

>> No.12147347
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>>12147262
>tfw try to make yukari tulpa and accidentally summon an elder god

>> No.12147401

>>12147262
Wasn't one of the major rules to not make a tulpa based on something existing because it always ends distorted?
I tried to make my OC donut steal once but I got tired after two days, I didn't even know what to do, do I just need to think about it for one hour a day or what?

>> No.12147465
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>>12147401
We used to have threads about this. Good times.

>> No.12147510

>>12147401
I thought it was don't try to give them the exact personality. Let them have their own in the form.

>> No.12147541

>>12147262
Oh my god thats the hardest I have laughed in a long time.

>> No.12147558

>>12147541
Could Bruce Lee tulpa stop Satori tulpa?

>> No.12147565

>>12147558
Something about the second controller port.

>> No.12147569

>>12147558
She knows he is going to kick her face it, but can she stop it? I would use a Shiki tulpa to judge the runaway. But then it might just scream constantly about how you are a horrible person and will burn in hell. I think it takes one hell of a fucked up person for it to fail the badly, but my god is that funny. Can you imagine a failed Rumia or anything really from SA? Yamame turns into a mass of spiders that cover everything and scream at you.

>> No.12147575

>>12147569
Dude, that does not compare if someone SUCCEEDS at making a Parsee.

>> No.12147583

>>12147575
>Parsee
That split personality. Oh god.

>> No.12148039
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12148039

I can never imagine Youmu doing anything she's known for doing;

She's allegedly a half-and-half gardener swordmaster yuyukowaifuservant marshmallow ghost, but all I know her for are her fucking upward-moving bullets and otherwise short attack range.

Key word: allegedly.

>> No.12148266
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What if you die and your tulpa lives on?

What if it realizes it's fading away without you and flees to Gensokyo to maintain its existence?

Wouldn't it be awkward if it looked like someone who was already there?

You'd better make up your own character, in that case.

>> No.12148284
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>>12148266
>Wouldn't it be awkward if it looked like someone who was already there?

>> No.12148592

>>12147575
What would it be like?

>> No.12150447
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12150447

God her shoes get me so hard.

>> No.12150461
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>>12150447
Mary-Janes is the type of shoe, they are indeed amazing. Her frilly socks are divine. I like her with grey eyes.

>> No.12150614

>>12150461
>>12150461
>I like her with grey eyes.
Like Evil Dead?
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2011/1/26/1296046382599/The-eyes-hag-it-...-Sam-R-007.jpg

>> No.12150627 [SPOILER] 
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>>12150614
No, like this:

>> No.12150633

>>12150627
I want to tenderly love and cuddle her~

>> No.12150651

>>12150614
Groovy

>> No.12150667

>>12150461
Too bad no one can draw them for shit.

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>>12150651
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RlrYGr8shn

>> No.12150976

>>12150633
Can't you see her? It's too hot for that, she wants to cool down.

>> No.12150994

>>12150976
Cuddling in a small pool is fine too.

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Myon-chan's grey eyes are also boneriffic here:

>> No.12151148
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Myon-chan's grey eyes are also boneriffic here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YprD58SIJyU

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>>12151148
How rare to see someone aroused by Youmu's stronger side.

>> No.12151197
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>>12151160
It's more exciting to be with someone when you know she could instantly massacre you one-handed... but is only showing her soft and warm side for you to ravish...

>> No.12151236

>>12147465
>No, don't make it yourself. No, don't make it your dead mother or your crush.

Why?

Anyway, it sounds interesting. I will try it.

>> No.12151541

>>12151236
Its a bad idea to make one in general.

>> No.12151556

>>12151541
What's the worst that could happen?

>> No.12151584

>>12151556
You end up possessed or having a poltergeist (basically) fucking you up mentally, emotionally, and spiritually like in >>12147262

At least you can kill servitors if they decide to go batshit

Of course, tulpafags think the occult is bullshit even when the modern definition of tulpa is basically babby-tier chaos magic, but whatever

>> No.12151604

>>12151556
Ignoring the paranormalfag below, you are basically ripping off a hunk of your personality, and forcing it into a mold. It can either work, or it can fail really really badly. At the same time you are doing this, you are forcing yourself to hallucinate/ creating a broken reality. So at the same time you are breaking apart your subconscious, you are also distorting your locally perceived reality. The result is if everything goes right, a controlled form of split personality with distortions of reality. If things go wrong, its like a schizophrenic attack that you yourself created, and cannot be managed with drugs. Dozens of factors can cause it to go wrong, including pre existing mental illness, wrong choice of wonderland/setting, poor form management, or strong emotions during the creation. Not enough confidence is also a key part of failure.

Most failures are just puppets, and it was a waste of time and effort. But plenty fail spectacularly. "Tulpas" cannot be killed very easily, and are more then able to force themselves to stay alive as long as they can.

>> No.12151605

>>12151584
Reading now. (Initially ignored because poni)

>> No.12151610

>>12151604
Also, remember that they are "you" and if you make them strong enough, they may try to replace you in your own body.

>> No.12151628

>>12151604
Quick question, does ripping off that hunk remove it from what you perceive to be "yourself" or does it remain as a part of yourself?

>> No.12151635
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>>12151605
Tulpa started out in its modern form on /x/, and that fucking board that should not be named ran with it. When it was on /x/, only the most dedicated people went though with it, often as an experiment, and that dedication weeded out most of the unstable population who did not have ability to handle it. At the same time, they often did their research, and knew what to expect and do.

Move forward a couple years, and the shithead brigade learns about it. Rather then dedication, and treating it as an experiment, they follow poorly written guides, and run with the idea following desire rather then inquiry. It was then that we began to see a really high proportion of failures, sometimes quite impressive in their scope. The screenshot above is one of the most amazing, but their are plenty of others that were not so clean. Unstable personalities in the product is very common, and can be malicious. >>12151628

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>>12151628
You dont feel like you are losing part of your self, and you see it as a separate entity. You can't read each others minds, at least openly. ut the thing "feeds" on your attention. The only way to kill one is to ignore it for a long long time. They can detect you attention, and will try and get more if they feel they are lacking. They might change form, or they might become hostile. If you are trying to kill a failure, it likely will not go quietly. They can't cause physical harm, but depending on how strong they are, they might be able to make you feel pain, or other discomfort. They might try and distract you, or keep you up at night. Attention is attention, and negative attention will self reenforce.

>> No.12151658

>>12151647
*other's

>> No.12151680

>>12151610
>if you make them strong enough, they may try to replace you in your own body.

That sounds like bullshit.

...


...Could you do this intentionally?

>> No.12151691

>>12151680
It...sounds...like...it...could...happen...to...me.
You...could...probably...do...it...intentionally.

>> No.12151693

>>12151680
Thats probably the only way to do it honestly. You would need a fucking low sense of self for it to happen on its own, and anyone in that case would likely fail before they finished forging.

>> No.12152078

>>12151604
After reading that tulpa-technicalsupport-thread and the posts in this thread I think I will stick with my myon-chan daki... the only things she ever wants are cuddles, hugs and kisses, and the D.

As for tulpas so far, it seems like forcing yourself to have simultaneous split personality disorder with visual/auditory hallucinations and disassociation. Or like schizos with imaginary friends who stay for decades.

If you split off a part of your mental processing power, and isolate it or opaque it from your senses sufficiently, it will for all intents and purposes be an actual thinking individual.

And some illusions are built into human DNA, the classical tricks of shape and size and color and such things. Tapping into that primordial potential for seeing something that's not there does not seem like it would be a productive or reasonable feat to attempt.

I wonder what anons experienced with the tulpa narrative that's happened here would say if asked as to what differs between an imaginary friend and a tulpa, especially in regards to comparing awareness of this entity being only in your mind.

>> No.12152363

I want to cum inside Myon.

>> No.12152870

>>12152363
Me too, but only if Youmu can feel it too.

Imaginary Myon when?

>> No.12156203
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>>12152078
And yet people still think it is a good idea.

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>>12137244
Goddamnit /jp/

>> No.12158296

>>12139751
>Who?
Not anyone in particular, just a generic female maid. It started with He is my Master characters, but Sakuya or just any maid character I can come up with in my head fits the role.

>> No.12159149
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12159149

Youmu is a murderer!

>> No.12159152

>>12140439
>>12139722
Don't trust this guy, it's actually fucking disgusting and you basically have to be gigantic weeb to find it appetizing - either that or be raised on mayo covered octopus.

>> No.12159222

>>12142021
Does that mean that Youmu is half naked most of the time?

Even more so.

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