/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How does /jp/ catalogue their saved 2hu images?

This was the best I could do, but it's still not that great because it makes no distinction between "art" and reactions/funny stuff, but at least is well organized.
Another con is not being able to hit the first letter of a character's name to reach the folder.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't.
I have one huge folder called Touhou Artwork, and then a subfolder called Eating Burgers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129481
The less folders I have to navigate to get to where I want, the better.
So I just have a huge-ass Touhou folder with subfolders for every character as well as a group folder.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't abide anything but a folder by character, you have way too many subfolders to want to slog through.
i usually don't bother to organize at all, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Tags.

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>>12129481
Where do you save 2hu images with multiple characters in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129572
Pic related goes in "06 - Embodiment of Scarlet Devil".

If it's a group that mixes more than one game, then it goes in the root, "Touhou", but these are surprisingly a small minority, after sorting out about 3000 images, only 78 remained on the root.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. No.]

I sort them by game in which they appear, or by pairings, and if the character is popular enough I dedicate a folder entirely for her.

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>>12129481
How many images do you have in the folder in total?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129636
2.928.

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>>12129666
And I thought I had few with only 11,084.

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>>12129666
About this amount as well. I've avoided collecting pictures for the longest time, I don't know why. I finally started on September.

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>>12129625
>game in which they appear
i can't into why people sort this way.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. No.]

>>12129690
Because artist will usually pair girls from the same game, and most art will depict them together, and a possible tag related to the girl will be the game where they appeared for the first time.

And my total count goes up to 29.387 manually saved pictures, without taking into account manga.

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>>12129690
OP here. I do it because the games are good for sorting groups, as I said here >>12129618.

>>12129673
Well, being an assburger OCD drawfag, I am very picky on what I save, so there's that. Unless it's so disgusting it becomes gold, like pic related.

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>>12129707
>I am very picky on what I save.
Well, usually I am too. I just have the patience and autism to go through over a thousand pages of images just for one character though.

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>>12129702
I have around 80k manually saved images. About 130k if you include sets and dojin. I go though it twice a year and remove duplicates. I hardly ever see most of it. I have considered either killing it all and starting over, or just slowly go though it and remove anything that is not a 10/10.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. No.]

>>12129728
I use alldup to remove duplicates. You should try it, it has byte-by-byte comparison, size, and other nifty options.

And including sets and dojinshi, my total count goes up to 110k.

I hardly ever see most of it as well, except my SDM/SA folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129728
It took me about 6 hours to fix this 3000 folder, but I had to create the categories, do some research and whatnot.
You can probably amount to 5000 if it's just dragging and dropping, with an organized structure already in mind.

If you work 6 hours a day on it, you'll take less than a month to organize it.

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>>12129740
I just sort by size, and spend a weekend going though the 4 megafolders, each with about 20k. I am scared that a program will freak out and destroy the whole collection. I might practive organizing by doing my loli collection first, which is about 17k. No idea how I would organize that. Its not like touhou, where you have repeating characters.

[Anonymous No.]

If I felt like giving a shit, I'd implement a little tag system. That way I could quick rob the tagging effort-already-done from the booru galleries.

I guess it's too bad for my organizational shit that I really don't care at all. Because I don't. Touhou images, from fanart to screenshots, all thrown willy-nilly in the same couple of totally unsorted junk subdirectories as every other goddamn thing I've saved that's an image. Or even that's a webm now. No external catalog or anything, just the straight list of filenames the filesystem keeps.

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>>12129770
Wait, you're talking about images in general, not only Touhou? That changes everything, good luck with your unhappy life organizing everything.

>>12129785
I've considered using tags in the past, but these softwares are shit because you can't move images without using the program itself, else it loses its reference. Tags should be embedable in the file and quickly accessible.

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>>12129740
>And including sets and dojinshi
Those stay in zip folders, right? Right?

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>>12129794
They are. Except with .gif

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>>12129800
I never save complete sets, I take the few ones I like and disregard the rest. And each dojin is kept in its own folder. No regrets.

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>>12129805
Well, any batch manager for that? Because I'm not going on Windows' properties, advanced and manually put every tag on every image I have.

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>>12129794
Well, anime style images. I have around 35k touhou.

>>12129800
I keep them in their folders, but unzipped. I discard the zip file. They are organized by artists or circle. You dont save much storage by keeping them in the zip file.

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>>12129794
>Tags should be in the file
Well I think they can be with most image types, let me just add that to my self-imposed shit I'm probably never ever going to get around to actually implementing.

Actually, n/m, somebody has to have written this all already, I just need to find it.

[Anonymous No.]

Folders are not suited for storing any kind of media. You can sort images by characters, but what if some picture has more than one? What if you want to find some specific thing, for example a 2hu with glasses?

Tags only. I have an idea of creating an application which would allow adding and assigning any tags to images. And of course it will have a simple search functionality.
Next. Storing images locally on you HDD is stupid. It can die and all your collection will go to waste. I would put all my images somewhere in the internet, in a cloud with proper backups and stuff.
Since my collection will be in internet it would be a good idea to open a public access to it for everyone. It's not fair if only I can enjoy my 2hu images. I think I would create a simple site which would allow to search by my tags. I think I would even allow users to add new tags just in case I missed something.
And wouldn't it be a great idea if users could upload images on their own too? There are lots of great pictures you may miss.
And don't you want sometimes to discuss an image with someone? It's stupid to create a new thread on /jp/ for a single picture. I would allow to leave comments to any image on my site.

Fuck, I think this is the greatest idea ever. If I ever create this site I will call it danbooru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129853
And then I will become jewish, and not let anybody see the most popular images unless they pay me money.

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>>12129853
>cloud
Yeah, servers in Malaysia are totally more reliable than your safe kept HDD, lazy anon.

And no, I wouldn't want people putting stuff in my collection, because I pick what goes in it.

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>>12129853
You ever think that the cloud might not be the best idea? Cuz you know, things like loli are 100% illegal in Commonwealth shitholes, and mostly legal in non commonwealth shitholes. Huh. Thats a pretty clean breakdown. Fuck Brits in general. The could really blurs that shit. The owner is in the US, the server is in germany, and the VPS owner is in Scotland. Makes things complicated.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a folder for each game, with folders for each character inside as well as a group folder. Sometimes it contains smaller groups, like Chireiden, Eientei, or Remi&Flandre.
For multiple characters in different games, I have a folder dedicated for that. It's not the cleanest way, but it works for me.

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>>12129882
Some anon already posted a great idea: >>12129864. I would hide all loli images from non-premium users. Premium account would cost only 20$ (one time fee). Or 40$ for super premium account.
Feds usually don't care about sites with illegal content which cannot be easily accessed by anyone. For example private torrent trackers, exhentai, etc.

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>>12129903
Except that they do. Now you are distributing illegal content and profiting from it. And exhentai is located in the United States, in which loli is legal or light grey. That pesky first amendment and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12129481
I used to have subfolders Cute/Romantic/Erotic/Fetish.

If I were to do that again I'd probably rename Cute to Cool.

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>>12129882
Illegal there but I'm sure everybody does it, just like sucking cock for heroin is illegal in the U.K. itself, but practically emblematic of the U.K. just the same.

Anyway, even taking out all the complications and nuttiness you get with porn (legal shit, spam/misuse and various kinds of attacks by other porn hosts, etc., etc.) keeping galleries has always been dumb and been something people just do temporarily as a convenience for their fellows (or a way to try to make money off of ads and adultcheck or whatever it is now.)
Unless the rest of your site actually does something with the media, there's no point in hosting it and serving it up. Just keep it locally. If you're paranoid, by all means do backups. Everybody's supposed to be backing up their computers anyway, on top of quitting smoking and everything else everybody's supposed to do for their own sake just in case.

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>>12129975
If you encrypt your porn, which you should do anyway, it makes backups a snap. You can throw it on your moms computer, or google drive, and not have to worry.

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>>12129915
>in the United States, in which loli is legal
What?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors#United_States
http://1.usa.gov/QQYwSb

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>>12129991
Look at those cases. All either plea bargains, or thrown out. Meanwhile, laws are being cut down left and right by the courts. Most successful convictions are for obscenity, which applies to all porn and state lines, even gilf gangbag. The first amendment is a bitch to overcome.

[Anonymous No.]

Like pic related.
It gets worse every week and I should probably tag them properly. Any good program for that purpose?

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>>12130062
Oh hey, I like your method, the underscore takes the letter-pressing advantage back to the game.
But only group-pics of, say, EoSD go in the EoSD folder? The characters are all scattered?

I would do something like this if there was a way of at least grouping characters per game, but then the folders would need to be in 2 places at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12130075
Most systems let you put in multiple links to the same folder, one way or another. Can get messy.

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>>12130075
If a picture contains 2 characters of a game, it goes in the game's folder. I thought about putting the character folders in the game folders, but it makes matters only worse if a character is in more than 1 game.

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>>12130094
Well, not that problematic if you take in account what I've done in the OP: the characters folders are in the first game where they make an appearance.

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>>12130108
Well, actually that's true. Still I'd like to abandon the folder system and replace it with a tagging system. You can set tags under "properties/details/tags", but unfortunetaly not for .png's which is what a good ammount of the pictures are in.

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>>12130138
Same boat, anon. All tag managers suck ass, should it come natively in the OS, maybe it'd work in a satisfactory way.

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>>12130144
On a side note: I found it very useful to sort the pirtures by file size - that way you can easily spot duplicates (unless you have samples and full sized ones mixed).

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>>12130150
Do duplicate-finding software take in account smaller versions of pictures when searching?

[Anonymous No.]

I compulsively save almost every image i find and literally never look at 99% of them ever again.

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>>12130442
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT.

So when you need a reaction, you simply browse randomly until you find something remotely suited? What if you want something specific?

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>>12130442
I think you just like bragging about your big HD.

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>>12130464
Hard drives are pretty cheap. You too could have enough space to compulsively save every touhou image you see.

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>>12130459
I have another folder for reaction images, about 100 or so. If i really need something specific I Google it and save it to another folder.

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>>12130341
Not that guy and I don't know, it might vary by the specific software package or even just your settings. But just deleting anything with "sample" before the dot might suffice.

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>>12130533
And how does you system cope with scrolling a 1kk single image folder? If you turn thumbnails on, does the Doomsday Clock tick towards midnight?

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>>12130549
What do you mean deleting "sample"? If it's about filenames, I don't save images from only one source.

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>>12130467
I see a C: there, so that's your base hard drive, not some backup.

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>>12130561
Okay, yeah, you're right, but most times the thumbnailed versions of the same images have something tacked-onto the filename that's distinct and not otherwise seen.

If you have a bunch of images descriptively named, you might be out of luck, though. I was just looking for shortcuts, I know there at least are some programs around that can match up different sizes of the same image, because google uses one.

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>>12130341
I've always used VisiPics for finding dupes. It detected this duplicate even after being resized to 100x138, as well as the Flan sample. The last two images are slightly different, so on the higher strictness levels it's not picked up as a duplicate. It lets you mark files for deletion within the program too.

[Anonymous No.]

I save (good) pictures of my favourite character out of a compulsive fear that they may go up in smoke someday if I don't hoard them all.

I'd be buying all her dojinshi as well if I knew how to order. How do people buy older dojinshi in Japan? Used book stores? Swap meets? Internet auctions?

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever happened to people using symbolic links and saving images as md5 hash?

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>>12129813
I use Adobe Bridge, it's awesome but a bit much if you only want to manage tags. I don't know about other good programms to do that.

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>>12131396
But the tags are exclusive to the software and lose reference if you move them externally, no?

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>>12131410
As I already said, the tags are stored in the file. Not every software reads it the same but they generally can read the simple ones (I've had problems with subtags from other softwares). And again, you can't tag .gif.

[Anonymous No.]

I still have a folder with subfolders, but lately I've just been throwing them into one big touhous folder inside my general 2D folder, assuming the filenames themselves will sort them enough that I can eventually just mass shift click them into proper subfolders.

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>>12130442
The interesting thing about this is that you don't have a single folder. It's literally nine hundred thousand unsorted images. I could not possibly acquire this many images even if I mass downloaded every single image set I could find.

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>>12131463
Just imagine the cyberpolice arresting that anon for supected CP, then having to manually look through this folder.

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>>12131470
Is this a thing people really worry about? I'm not mocking you, I'm just curious. I have a lot to lose in life, but I really couldn't care less about the possibility of someone finding my 2D "CP".

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>>12131477
That's not the point, it's about the safety system that anon accidentally created in his computer.

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>>12131477
If you browsed 4chan for any length of time you probably have deleted 3D CP on your computer simply from when people post it.

[Anonymous No.]

i want to train a neural net to classify touhou pictures based on characters. tips?

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>>12131492
I know. I thought it was clever.

>>12131499
I've accumulated maybe six actual CP pictures and deleted them all after one or two glances at them. It's just not my thing.

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>>12131507
The cops can just recover the deleted images and it still counts as possession. Also when you delete from your web cache it still stores it on your computer until it overwrites it with new data.

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>>12131520
You have to have been actually trying to do some things to be found guilty of them, at least in the U.S.

And typically it's people's other idiotic/criminal behavior that gets them busted for that shit, anyway. You don't collect the shit? And then do something like outright brag about it somewhere? Don't sweat shit. Or if you can't help sweating shit, I know there's all kinds of shareware "hard drive cleaners" and other programs that would wipe out your empty HD space. Your worry has been a longtime market for shareware authors.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to store stuff as it comes and make a new folder once the current one is too big.
Then I started making folders and sub folders with categories based on personal impression/preferences like "cute stuff" "ero stuff" "burgers" etc.
Then I mostly stopped browsing /jp/ because it's shit and I can find pictures of cute girls on pixiv and artist blogs.

>>12130676
I've always wanted to do it but I never could be assed to learn how to.

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>>12131520
Look at this n00b who can't zero his HDD or even shred files.

Also some dude who allegedly worked in HDD recovery for cops said that when they raid your shit they already have enough material on your ass anyway.
If they had to go after all the people who got 0<x<10 CP pics they'd have to raid most of 4chan. Or at least most of the people who browsed 4chan a couple of years ago.

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>>12135295
Really the only people the "go after" is distributors. They will nail the average joe's ass if he is obvious about what his PC contains. I dont know many DA's who will want the fight that only drawn images will bring.

[Anonymous No.]

How do the police search for contraband on PCs anyway? Do they have a script or do they manually sift through the entire computer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12135827
feds probably have a script, local pd probably has a guy go though manually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12131500
acquire a massive training data set of tagged touhou pictures from these guys
>>12129481
>>12130062

There is probably enough there to train a neural net to recognize touhous. Also use deep networks, they're all the rage.


I'm going to give up on Touhou now, I'll never catch up with my tiny unorganized Touhou folder.

I I'll try to go be normal now....

[Anonymous No.]

>>12135848
Are you kidding? Comiket is just two months away! I haven't even properly tagged C85's ones yet, although I've already selected my definitive tracks since March.

[Anonymous No.]

OP, just use a tag client like Hydrus. Millions of tags, anonymity and geared towards Anon to boot. Been at it for a few months and it's amazing.

http://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/help/index.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>12136223
That's interesting, althrough I don't get the thread watcher to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12136570
Nevermind, I figured it out.
Had the /res link instead of the /thread link.

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>>12136223
Seconded. It's very useful.

[Anonymous No.]

I just have a folder named 2hu.

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>>12129481
Your Inaba folder is redundant. Avoid unnecessary nesting.

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>>12129666
I have around 1500 and they're named char1_char2_tag1-tag12.png. Having folders for absolutely everything is more of an inconvenience than anything else.

Not having more than 2000 shitty images is also a good start. Hoarding images with no real meaning is pointless.

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>>12129853
> Tags only. I have an idea of creating an application which would allow adding and assigning any tags to images. And of course it will have a simple search functionality.
Run a booru locally?

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>>12129853
> Tags only. I have an idea of creating an application which would allow adding and assigning any tags to images. And of course it will have a simple search functionality.
Run a booru locally?

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>>12130442
Why do you do this?

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>>12130676
Holy shit, this is actually a good idea. I was thinking of making a separate file manager to handle tags, but this is a much better idea.

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>>12136854
What do you mean?

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>>12136223
>>12136639
I'm being stupid again, can one of you explain how I subscribe to a pixiv artist? I always get a "urllib" error. I've tried artist url, gallerie url, artist nickname, artist name, id=[number] and just the id number itself but noone seems to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12135794
...you know DAs?

Why are you even here, ubernormie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12130442
pls torrent.

[Anonymous No.]

There's no reason to save everything when it's all online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12130442
>911 k images
I can just hear the computer trying to load that folder from here

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>>12129673
Its not purely Tuohou images, but my image folders have about 60k images in total... I'll never get around to sorting them ;_;

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>>12137183
I'm only at about 33k. Most of it is screenshots and things.

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>>12136987
I haven't fiddled with that a lot and I also get errors when I try to subscribe. In any case, I've sent an email to the dev and will share his reply here.

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>>12141521
That's very nice of you, thank you.

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>>12130676
How does this work?

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>>12143236
>Ok, I had a look at the html, and there's no way of distinguishing between (single image) and (manga collection) thumbnail at the gallery level, but there is at the image page level, which means with my current system there has to be an error message. For now, I've changed the error message to a more polite '[page url] was a manga, not a single image, so could not be downloaded'.

>I've made a note to revisit this, to either rework how my download process works to remove the error, or (if I can find the time!) to actually parse and download manga from pixiv properly.

Thanks, and you're welcome. And there you go.

tl;dr Pixiv images can't be downloaded using the gallery URL, but their image page URLs work (might as well download them yourself). Also, manga/collection URLs are also currently incompatible.

So, I guess breezy Pixiv browsing is still a ways off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12146533
Thanks, again!
Quite wierd that the author didn't knew about this problem, considering the pixiv options his program gives.
Oh well, nice piece of software anyway! Already imported 1000 images, makes my life much easier and increases the chance that I look at images more than once greatly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12147457
Welcome.

>Quite wierd that the author didn't knew about this problem, considering the pixiv options his program gives.

Well, the dev did say that he hasn't looked into it for a while. And with sites constantly updating and messing stuff up, I wouldn't be surprised.

Glad to hear it helped. It's a wonder why no one thought of this before, eh?

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>>12129481
>catalogue

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>>12149061
>And with sites constantly updating and messing stuff up, I wouldn't be surprised.
Ok, that's a point. Haven't had a look at the html myself, so I can't say about any structure changes pixiv might had in the last couple months or years.
>It's a wonder why no one thought of this before, eh?
I'm pretty sure many have thought about that, including myself, but afaik noone has done it in a convinient way.
I'm >>12131396 and from the past few days I can say I prefer hydrus over Bridge, eventhrough hydrus is program dependent it makes tagging and browsing by tags so much nicer and convinient, at least for my needs.

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>>12149578
Glad to hear it helps then.

[Anonymous No.]

ACDSee has tagging functionality, but I've never got around to making tags for each touhou yet. Too much of a pain. But finding 'that right file' is starting to get bothersome.

Currently everything is divided into "non-lewd" and "lewd" directories. Plus doujins and full pixiv artist downloads etc. in their own directories.

It's 5 months since my last data update picture. Here's the latest.

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>>12153124
OP here. I've used ACDSee, it's shit.