>Touhou's golden age only lasted 3 years >Kancolle has pretty much taken over and is constantly stealing more and more disillusioned Touhou fans >You can clearly feel ZUN's desperation in his most recent games, as he creates more and more ludicrous characters hoping to grab some attention

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Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:38:19 2014 No.12071336 [Reply] [Original]

>Touhou's golden age only lasted 3 years
>Kancolle has pretty much taken over and is constantly stealing more and more disillusioned Touhou fans
>You can clearly feel ZUN's desperation in his most recent games, as he creates more and more ludicrous characters hoping to grab some attention

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:41:27 2014 No.12071342 Shut up, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:43:34 2014 No.12071350 The sound of the Gion temple bells echoes the impermanence of all things

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:44:17 2014 No.12071353 Gud dog help man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:47:17 2014 No.12071358 TCG and Danmaku are equally shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:49:08 2014 No.12071361 And nothing of value was lost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:52:35 2014 No.12071364 >>12071361 We'll never get a Kancolle-themed meme as good as Yukkuri, that's one sure thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:56:44 2014 No.12071369 >>12071336 Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:57:58 2014 No.12071371 >>12071369 Public opinions

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 06:58:04 2014 No.12071372 Stop talking. you're annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:00:16 2014 No.12071376 >he actually believes that kancolle will get as big as touhou >he actually really believes that kancolle will ever get as big as touhou before everyone forgets about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:02:55 2014 No.12071379 File: 953 KB, 1280x960, 1363541477602.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12071364 what's the best Kancolle meme anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:03:51 2014 No.12071380 >>12071379 The biggest Kancolle joke is that there are people that actually play it seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:12:20 2014 No.12071391 >>12071380 Butthurt 2hu fan, how does it feel knowing that Kancolle did in 1 year what Touhou took 10 years to accomplish?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:17:32 2014 No.12071400 >>12071358 At least fighting games will remain a classic...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:22:46 2014 No.12071408 >>12071336 >>12071376 Reported for ironic memearrowing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:25:30 2014 No.12071411 PLEASE do not misuse the quote feature to exaggerate your opinions...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:25:42 2014 No.12071412 Without Shimakaze it would be nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:25:54 2014 No.12071414 >>12071391 Bubble pop

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:28:40 2014 No.12071419 >>12071391 >Kancolle did in 1 year what Touhou took 10 years to accomplish What exactly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:30:50 2014 No.12071424 >>12071412 Imagine if Touhou didn't have Flandre. It would never have blown up and even /jp/ wouldn't exist.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:32:02 2014 No.12071429

Kancolle is a creation of the media conglomerate DMM, which creates and actively sponsors everything from loli games to JAV pornography through cheap internet advertising.

Touhou is a long running franchise of simple danmaku games created by a single person, who does not actively advertise his work. Instead, he relies on thousands of fans to spread it by word of mouth and doujin works at media conventions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:08:30 2014 No.12071499 >>12071379 shimakaze's thong

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:18:47 2014 No.12071519
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Might just be confirmation bias, but it does feel like there's a lot less Touhou fanart being submitted and doujinshi getting announced, while almost every artist who do fanworks have at very least touched upon KanColle recently.

Though I enjoy KanColle too, I'll miss Touhou if it becomes completely irrelevant. A doujin circle making a Touhou-related work have the choice between several dozens of colorful characters with their own unique designs, and they're allowed a lot of freedom of interpretation of each character, since ZUN doesn't assign a hard and obvious personality pattern to most of his characters. Kancolle has a lot of characters too, but as dictated by the setting itself, their designs are a lot more uniform. All characters have very obvious personalities that can be summarized into a few character traits, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in itself, but it allows artists to be lazy (i.e. when writing a Kongou doujinshi, make sure she's bold, energetic and inserts random English words in her sentences, characterization done). And what bothers me maybe most of all is how hierarchical the popularity of character is. The top 5% have 95% of the doujinshi. With Touhou, pretty much any post-PC98 character would get plenty of attention, but with KanColle, if you like a relatively obscure character, you're fucked.

Even if KanColle takes over in popularity, it will never take over in my heart.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:30:55 2014 No.12071533

KanColle generates a fuckton of unmemorable characters with similar outfits and just barely different characteristics to stand out. Naturally, there are some that stand out from the rest, but I can't see KanColle taking over. Perhaps for a few months, but it'll die off. Touhou is in a slow decline mainly because there's no more stuff to keep it in circulation. There was Flandre and McDonalds, yukkuri and Bad Apple was pretty popular too.

If anything will kill Touhou, it'll be ZUN's marriage.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:33:04 2014 No.12071536

Kancolle is the most obvious example of the total downgrade in the market for otaku goods. Games no longer have to be interesting, fun, or challenging, they just need an endless stream of cute girls and some dull hook like battleships.

Fuck the new generation of children.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:33:17 2014 No.12071537 >>12071519 Even if KanColle never got huge, Touhou doujinshi would decline regardless due to the fact of same shit getting old.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:34:11 2014 No.12071538 So, explain to me how something I like becoming unpopular is a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:35:27 2014 No.12071542 File: 17 KB, 256x290, 1309231173248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only threat to Touhou Is Touhou itself

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:58:44 2014 No.12071578

So why don't we just find a new ZUN? We just need someone who
1. isn't necessarily good at drawing, but can design hundreds of characters with a strange appeal to them
2. can make melodiously focused music, borrowing inspiration from folk and pop music, resulting in universally appealing and memorable music that still sounds original to most of its listeners
3. can design games that appeal to autists

The market is primed for his coming, we just need to find someone who fits the description.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:03:12 2014 No.12071585 japanese history is less accessible to me than ghosts, aliens, and nuclear weapons, so my interest in touhou declined precipitously after SA >>12071536 >endless stream of cute girls shitty moege have been milking this market for years

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:04:49 2014 No.12071593

japanese history is less accessible to me than ghosts, aliens, and nuclear weapons, so my interest in touhou declined precipitously after SA

>>12071536
>Games no longer have to be interesting, fun, or challenging, they just need an endless stream of cute girls and some dull hook
shitty moege have been milking this market for years

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:04:54 2014 No.12071595 >>12071538 It's really not. Kancolle shitters are just /a/v/ kids with no taste or opinions of their own, they follow the herd and jump on whatever is most popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:05:26 2014 No.12071596 >>12071578 You forgot that he also needs to be not interested in huge profits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:05:35 2014 No.12071597 >>12071578 No it isn't. there are thousands of people who meet those characteristics, but the odds of us clinging onto them and making them our god is one in a billion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:05:51 2014 No.12071598 >>12071595 2hu is more popular than kancolle in the west

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:07:37 2014 No.12071605 >>12071598 Kancolle is Japanese angry birds so it is the true otaku's choice The western touhou fanbase = weeb bronies

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:09:08 2014 No.12071609 >>12071598 ZUN has only recently become aware of it's western fanbase. He was surprised that all the comments on his 14.3 video were in english. Maybe he will market touhou in the west and cash in with Steam before it dies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:10:42 2014 No.12071612 >>12071609 I thought /jp/ were basically the only ones in the west who cared about the actual games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:12:16 2014 No.12071617 >>12071612 They are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:12:16 2014 No.12071618 >>12071612 No, that would be /v/, /jp/ is for waifunating and sexualizing touhous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:13:15 2014 No.12071621 As a Kankore fan, I can honestly say that Kankore is already declining, from what I've seen. Even the VITA game seems to have been canceled

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:13:45 2014 No.12071623 >>12071612 Even Shrinemaiden gives more of a shit about the games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:16:48 2014 No.12071632 Kancercolle girls dont make my kokoro go doki doki

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:18:31 2014 No.12071637 [DELETED]

>>12071609
>He was surprised that all the comments on his 14.3 video were in english.

I hope someone pointed out to him that every Japanese-language comment was sunk to the bottom by the English circlejerk crowd upboating each other.

>>12071618
>/v/
>caring about games

Good one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:19:20 2014 No.12071640 >>12071632 Shut up

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:20:57 2014 No.12071643 >>12071637 Well, /v/ has been having daily soku and pofv and general touhou threads every day for a while now, and there is less stupid shit like "I wanna sniff a touhous asshole" going on there than in here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:21:45 2014 No.12071647 >Touhou golden age only lasted 3 years That's only in western. In Japan it was longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:24:04 2014 No.12071653 File: 104 KB, 830x1036, fsd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Make of it what you wish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:26:39 2014 No.12071656 >>12071653 kankore seems to be falling as fast as it rised

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:31:30 2014 No.12071667 >>12071653 Western has shit taste, anyway. Touhou is going to die.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:31:44 2014 No.12071668

>>12071336
>implying ZUN cares about attention
If he really cared about that, he woulda allowed more people to work on Touhou.
The fact that he prefers to work alone means that he doesn't care.

And Kancolle is so obviously designed to attract virgins that it's actually offensive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:33:04 2014 No.12071671 I don't know what kancolle is. I also think DDC is the best Touhou game since Imperishable Night. You're that "Touhou is declining" guy, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:33:20 2014 No.12071675 >>12071643 Why don't you stay on /v/ if it's so much better? F*cking crossboarders trying to act tough on my board....

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:33:35 2014 No.12071676 >>12071668 I don't see why people get offended when they get pandered to. Shouldn't it be a good thing that someone wants to pander to you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:34:54 2014 No.12071677 >>12071675 It's fine to act elitist but only if the things you're acting elitist about are true.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:35:24 2014 No.12071678

>>12071676
I wouldn't call that pampering.
If anything, it makes me feel like they're making fun of me by putting lolis in mini skirt while expecting me to become a drone repeating HOLY SHIT THAT GAME IS AWESOME.

If I wanted beautiful games, I would be playing Bioshock Infinite. If I want to have fun, I play Touhou or Dwarf Fortress.
If I want lolis, I play Polygon Love 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:36:17 2014 No.12071681 >>12071677 True facts:- 1. You're a crossboarder 2. You come from /v/ 3. You prefer /v/ 4. You need to return to /v/ Everything checks out here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:37:16 2014 No.12071683 >>12071653 That sharp kancolle rise is disgusting in comparison to touhou's word of mouth popularity. I didn't realize touhou was so big in the west now.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:38:27 2014 No.12071684

>>12071677
What are /v/'s most common threads?
>That game is shit !
>That game is awful !
>Kojima is a faggot !

What are /jp/'s most common threads?
>Pictures dumps
>"would you spank some character?"
>games general

/jp/ is talking about video games more often than /v/ does.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:40:03 2014 No.12071686

>>12071678
That doesn't explain why you have a problem with it. Don't you like the lolis they give you? In that case, the problem is that they're not pandering well enough to you. Or do you only like it if it's designed by someone who doesn't care that you like it? Because that's pretty stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:41:54 2014 No.12071687 >>12071683 Note that the charts aren't relative to each other. I tried putting all terms on the same one, but the English terms had so few hits compared to the Japanese ones that you couldn't really see the development in detail.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:42:04 2014 No.12071688 >>12071686 You don't really understand. And I admit I have trouble explaining it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:43:02 2014 No.12071691

>>12071678
And yet sadly this sort of pandering works very well.
Just look at stuff like this Senran Kagura or Neptunia games, they have no real value besides the shitty fetish pandering, and yet people like to praise these games.

I really don't get why people just look at pictures on the internet if they wanna see cute girls, that way they don't have to deal with shitty gameplay

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:44:20 2014 No.12071692

Pft. There's always a "youhou-killer". First, it was Valkyrie Crusade, now it's Kancolle, and yet Touhou is still standing.
You faggots, with your "touhou is ded XDDD" are like conspiracies freaks, you don't care for truth, you only care for you own delusions.

>>12071691
I think he's trying to say he doesn't want to play Kancolle because it's filled with little girls and he doesn't like them.
I don't really understand why.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:47:00 2014 No.12071695

>>12071691

I bought the second Neptunia game because people said it was a good RPG and improved on the first game. It's really not, it's fucking awful

I bought Senran Kagura because the girls are hot as hell and people promised that it was a good game.

I'm never falling for this again. I don't know if people are just convincing themselves that they didn't waste 40 bux on a shit game or if they genuinely enjoy gameplay that bad. Either way, they're all wrong because the games are terrible. They're not even bad but playable like Suda51 games, they're just totally awful

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:47:13 2014 No.12071696

>>12071692
>I don't really understand why
Maybe because their whole purpose is to make your dick hard rather than delivering a good story with good characters in a good setting.

Ask yourself this: Would you like a game if all the characters were boys instead?
If the answer is no then you only care about cute girls which is a really shallow way to enjoy something.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:47:56 2014 No.12071699

>>12071692
>youhou-killer
oh god i am alaughing

>>12071691
Point is, they're advertising the game by showing a lot of girls. So while there are people genuinely interested in the game, there are also creepy 40-years old virgin playing it just to see the girls.
And the mere idea of playing a game advertised that way bothers me to no end, because I feel like I'm taken for a fool.
Something like "we don't need gameplay, we just need girls".

I still don't know if I'm clear or not. I JUST KNOW I AM ANGRY AT KANCOLLE FOR BEING FILLED WITH GIRLS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:48:47 2014 No.12071701 >>12071684 Nice greentext you piece of shit.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:49:14 2014 No.12071703

>>12071696
>Ask yourself this: Would you like a game if all the characters were boys instead?
Well, I play a lot of games where the characters are males. I don't like playing as a girl, and frankly, love interests in games always suck. Either they get abducted, or they're like "Hello Commander Sheperd, I'm happy to meet - LET'S FUCK ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:50:16 2014 No.12071706 >>12071701 Thanks for proving me right with your awesome argument.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:50:46 2014 No.12071708
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>>12071686
Not him, but it'll be better if someone can make something out of my expectation and make me like it or creating new favorites for me.

If they keep making the same thing I've been liking for years and even say "Here I make something that you always like, boy. Please buy!" then of course I feel like a fucking dog.
I rather "Here, I made something you've never seen before, you like it or not?" If I like it then great, if I don't at least I'll still appreciate his genuine effort.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:52:34 2014 No.12071711 >Actually playing Tohous Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh It was always just an excuse to post garbage everywhere

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:52:38 2014 No.12071712

>>12071688
If you can't explain it, it might be an irrational idea. There's a lot of people trying to spread shame around enjoying things with cute girls in them, so a lot of people go around thinking that something they might honestly like if they tried it is bad in some way, which they cannot explain themselves. In this case, people go around saying pandering is bad simply because they have this image in their heads that the only people who get pandered to are fat otaku losers who leak money and are too stupid to see that the industry is using them.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:56:32 2014 No.12071718

>>12071712
No, it's not that.
I mean, they're trying to sell a strategy game, but instead of saying "lots of actions! Interactions! Lots of ships! Weapons everywhere! EXPLOSIONS!", everything is about "hey cute girls, you like cute girls, you wanna see them? Then play the game!".

Instead of trying to sell the gameplay, or the graphisms, or the easily moddable engine, they're just putting girls everywhere.

How would you like if Starcraft 2's whole advertising campaign was about Kerrigan's ass, without a single word about the multiplayer, the new units, and all the real stuff, nothing but a giant picture of Kerrigan's ass?

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:01:16 2014 No.12071725

>>12071718
>strategy game
>"lots of actions! Interactions! Lots of ships! Weapons everywhere! EXPLOSIONS!"

This is... precisely what he was talking about. You're complaining about one pandering while expecting other pandering. Who cares about action and explosions in a strategy game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:03:17 2014 No.12071728 >>12071725 >Who cares about action and explosions in a strategy game? Everybody not playing Dwarf Fortress. Hell, no, even in Dorfs, there are explosions. Kinda. When M. Water meet Ms. Lava.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:03:31 2014 No.12071729

>>12071703
>Well, I play a lot of games where the characters are males.
You missed the point completely. It's about games like Kancolle, do you think anyone would play it if there were no cute girls?

>>12071712
I don't think he is against pandering in general, but more against really obvious and blatant pandering like Kancolle which offers nothing more than pictures of cute girls, because the makers assume that consumers will eat their shit no matter how uncreative and contentless it is.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:05:35 2014 No.12071730

>>12071708
That's just a lack of creative risk-taking. I can see the relation, since a lot of artists/developers/authors do both at the same time. But it's not the same thing. You can pander while still taking creative risks, and you can fail to take creative risks without pandering at all.

>>12071718
Yes, they're trying to attract with something they know will attract their target audience. That's how marketing works. Again, you seem to believe that there's something shameful about being interested in a game because it has cute girls in it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:06:35 2014 No.12071733 >>12071729 >do you think anyone would play it if there were no cute girls? Honestly? No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:07:16 2014 No.12071736 File: 239 KB, 599x900, jECTymf[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] armpits are gross you never go wrong with thighs

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:09:32 2014 No.12071738 >>12071733 Of course not, because it would just be a really, really crappy browsergame without them.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:11:19 2014 No.12071744

>>12071730
> Again, you seem to believe that there's something shameful about being interested in a game because it has cute girls in it.

That's not his point at all, I'm not that guy so I can't speak for him, but pandering to just a single aspect( especially if it's just a visual aspect) just doesn't makes for a good overall experience.

If you do in fact enjoy something just because of a single visual aspect then you are encouraging a really shallow way of making games.

It's like you are thinking with your penis rather than your brain when enjoying Kancolle because it offers only a single visual aspect, while things like touhou have much more than just cute girls to offer.

ZUN doesn't panders to anyone, he just wants to make nice games with his own vision, whether you like his vision is completly irrelevant to him, and I believe that this is the best way to make games.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:11:23 2014 No.12071745

>>12071738
Not to mention, most conversations would be about actual strategy instead of being about crappy memes.
Like that cannibal radar thingy. There's a ship who spawns with an advanced radar. Said radar is often removed and affected to others ships.

Cut a "cruiser SOMETHING get cannibalized" epic le meme.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:11:42 2014 No.12071746 >>12071738 I'm not involved with your fanbase. Does Kancolle not have a decent soundtrack like Touhou? I'm into Touhou about 95% for the soundtrack and doujin music based on said soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:14:48 2014 No.12071754 >>12071681 In all likelihood I've been posting in /jp/ longer than you. >>12071684 I only know about their Soku threads which were linked from /jp/ because everyone in /jp/ quit playing, which were mostly about either Hisoutensoku or PoFV.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:18:15 2014 No.12071763

>>12071729
>It's about games like Kancolle, do you think anyone would play it if there were no cute girls?
Would anyone read visual novels if there were no cute girls? Obviously not, but we're not out to shit on them.

>Kancolle which offers nothing more than pictures of cute girls
It's military themed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:18:23 2014 No.12071764 When Kancolle manages an equally/better Reiteisai, then I'm convinced. Until then, it's just a temporary fad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:19:10 2014 No.12071767 >>12071763 Except that Kancolle is NOT a VN. It's supposely a strategy game. Your argument is deeply flawed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:22:05 2014 No.12071775 >>12071764 They have their own doujin events. I don't know what the size is. >>12071767 I don't see why I'm allowed to play some games about cute girls but not others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:23:38 2014 No.12071779 >>12071763 >Would anyone read visual novels if there were no cute girls? Yeah, they would. I think you mean nukige or moege, and that's porn anyway and not a game. >It's military themed. How does this matter?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:23:55 2014 No.12071780 >>12071775 So you would buy Warlords Battlecry 2 if I replace everyone by a loli and add VN-like cutscenes? Good to know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:24:31 2014 No.12071782 Kancolle girls are too lewd for me, that's not cute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:25:17 2014 No.12071786 Always make me laugh how women in video games are NEVER fully armoured. Guess they have boobs of steel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:25:24 2014 No.12071787 >>12071780 Not the guy you're replying to, but that doesn't make sense.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:26:06 2014 No.12071789

>>12071780
Weaboos will literally eat up ANYTHING as long as you add cute girls.

Heck, I've been thinking about making a game myself for so long now.
All I need to do is to learn to draw really good and copy some gameplay from a other game in a poor way and watch the weaboocash flow into my pockets

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:26:26 2014 No.12071790

>>12071779
>Yeah, they would. I think you mean nukige or moege, and that's porn anyway and not a game.
Nobody makes visual novels with zero cute girls because nobody would buy them besides gay people, scenarioge and nakige included.

Rance is a "game" but you wouldn't play it if he were running around raping guys.

>>12071780
Maybe? I've never heard of it. You'll need to hire some decent artists and voice actresses, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:27:09 2014 No.12071791 >>12071754 >i've been here longer than you! (probably) Heh. Could you possibly be a more perfect /v/ stereotype?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:27:18 2014 No.12071792 >>12071790 >Rance is a "game" but you wouldn't play it if he were running around raping guys Cute guys or muscular guys? This is important.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:27:32 2014 No.12071794 >>12071780 >Warlords Battlecry 2 It's been a while since someone mentioned that game. Man, I played it for so many hours and Battlecry 3, too. Too bad there's no 4...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:28:21 2014 No.12071797 >>12071791 That's nice but who are you quoting?

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:28:42 2014 No.12071798

>>12071790
>I've never heard of it
Basically a wannabe Warcraft 3 with persistent heroes. Your heroes levels up and become stronger, than if you die in a skirmish, you're crippled as you can't revive them until the skirmish is over.

The pathfinding was awful, the ranged battles were a mess, and yet I liked that game. I had shit tastes back then.

Point is, it's not a good game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:29:05 2014 No.12071799 >>12071791 /jp/ used to nominally care about seniority.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:29:07 2014 No.12071800 >>12071789 >>12071790 All you'd really need to do is to get someone to make sprites for every unit, a few hero portraits and a fuckton of other art for building research.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:29:13 2014 No.12071801

>>12071744
So what you are complaining about is games with little depth, and I guess there's an implication that this is caused by pandering? I can agree to a certain extent, if a developer realizes that games that pander to moe otaku sell better than games that pander to people who want deep gameplay, they're obviously going to choose to pander to moe otaku. But still, if you look it at objectively, there's no real problem. Moe otaku get what they want, other people don't. People who get pandered to get what they want, people who don't get pandered to don't get what they want. Therefore, getting pandered to is a good thing. Your issue isn't with pandering in itself, but the fact that you're not getting pandered to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:29:44 2014 No.12071803 >>12071790 >Rance is a "game" but you wouldn't play it if he were running around raping guys. Well, I...

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:30:34 2014 No.12071805

>>12071797

The post I quoted. Are you blind?

What's with all the tough guy x-boarders recently? Just because the janitor is gone doesn't mean there's a power vacuum for nerds like you to fill

>>12071799

Well I've been here a long time too but I don't use it as an excuse when I've been called out or proven wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:31:03 2014 No.12071808 Kancolle is great because it doesn't look like horseshit. Touhou would be fine if ZUN would put down the fucking pen and let a real artist do the art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:31:45 2014 No.12071811 >>12071808 Sure, let's bring more secondaries that will never play the games.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:32:41 2014 No.12071813

>>12071805
>Well I've been here a long time too but I don't use it as an excuse when I've been called out or proven wrong.
You didn't prove me wrong about anything, you simply accused me of being a newcomer from /v/.

>>12071808
ZUN outsources art to doujin artists who provide pictures that actually look good.

Kancolle does this, sort of.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:33:29 2014 No.12071818

>>12071801
This isn't a personal issue for myself, I'm not mad at Kancolle or who enjoy it at all.
If they enjoy being pandered to it's nice for them.

But in my opinion it just doesn't makes for objectively good game design, and if everyone would pander in such shallow ways as Kancolle we only would get bad games.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:34:37 2014 No.12071819

>>12071790
>Nobody makes visual novels with zero cute girls
Nobody likes visual novels with only cute girls and shitty rest, either.
That people would play a VN without cute girls was a bit far fetched, but I actually never meant to say that cute girls are bad. I was saying that expecting people to like trash just because it has cute girls in it is ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:35:16 2014 No.12071821 To be honest, if they speak about the girls, it only proves that the rest of the game is awful.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:36:47 2014 No.12071826

I'm not really a huge fan of touhou to begin with, but it makes me kinda sad since it indicates an end of an era.

I took 2hu for granted, and now that it's becoming less prominent, I'm going to miss it.

All I know about kancolle is HEY TEITOKU! and shimakaze shimapants.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:37:30 2014 No.12071828 >>12071821 Nobody even pretends that it's a good game (although it's gotten better than it was). People "play" the game for the novelty of seeing their ship girls fight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:39:17 2014 No.12071830 >>12071828 The only good thing with Kancolle will be when the hentai games are out. I can't wait to spank Shimakaze.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:44:40 2014 No.12071838 >>12071830 They won't let you use game files so unfortunately the people in charge of that will need to find a substitute seal impersonator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:45:18 2014 No.12071839 >>12071838 >They won't let you use game files You really think that will stop me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:45:49 2014 No.12071840 >>12071839 Good luck in your hentai game development quest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:49:30 2014 No.12071848 >>12071826 As a Touhou fan, I have to say it'd be nice to shed people who only care how "prominent" Touhou is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:52:40 2014 No.12071856 >>12071848 Who said you shed me? I can't find myself jumping ship to kancolle since the game the fanbase is based around isn't interesting at all. I actually played touhou and it was fun.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:06:03 2014 No.12071884

>>12071856
It wasn't a personal comment, I'm just saying I'm fine with the series and its community getting freed from the baggage of memes that served as its facade for so long.

You can see from your own example this will not damage the core of the fanbase. And ultimately it's healthier to stand on your own strength.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:06:41 2014 No.12071888 >>12071537 Touhou is already declining, and Kancolle will be dead as soon as the anime aired.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:07:57 2014 No.12071893 >>12071888 >Touhou is already declining Meh. Only secondaries like UsuallyDead leave. Once all the faggots (KimikoMuffin, LeoModesto) are out, the Touhou community will be way better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:09:09 2014 No.12071895 >>12071893 Who the fuck are these people?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:09:51 2014 No.12071899 I kinda hope Touhou dies. I haven't liked any of the recent games or characters and maybe he'll get desperate enough for an anime to get made. Or he'll just focus on music albums and stories.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:15:10 2014 No.12071912 >>12071895 KimikoMuffin is an "artist" making comics with create.swf. Also he has Asperger, so you can't say anything mean to him. LeoModesto is the infamous potato artist who made the doodles you can see on the wiki. They're both attention whores.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:16:52 2014 No.12071915 >>12071912 congrats on making them more famous than they already were

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:19:09 2014 No.12071920 >>12071915 If you visited the wiki at least once, you already knew who Modesto was. Which means that unless you're a retard, you know at least one of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:21:15 2014 No.12071924 >>12071899 >he'll just focus on music albums and stories. Actually, those are okay. I want more music albums. I want more Renko and Maribel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:23:14 2014 No.12071927 I want Touhou and Kancolle to go away so the doujin scene will be good again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:23:17 2014 No.12071928 >>12071912 Have you ever wonder that why did KimikoMuffin put Asperger on it? Do you think he's weak to insults?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:24:40 2014 No.12071931 >>12071928 >Have you ever wonder that why did KimikoMuffin put Asperger on it? ?????????

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:25:03 2014 No.12071932 >>12071920 I visit the wiki often and his name is where..?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:26:44 2014 No.12071940 >>12071932 The doodles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:27:48 2014 No.12071942 File: 13 KB, 99x106, Box.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12071932 >pretends he visits the wiki "often" >never noticed the ugly drawings all over the place

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:28:25 2014 No.12071943 >>12071927 BL majority?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:30:54 2014 No.12071946 >>12071942 >>12071940 You completely missed it. Never mind then, there is no point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:32:03 2014 No.12071950 >>12071940 >>12071942 Not him but before I knew it was Modesto and knew what kind of person he is I didn't give a shit about those doodles or who made them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:33:39 2014 No.12071955 >>12071950 >Not him Than I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:35:58 2014 No.12071959 >>12071955 So you just want to shit on him instead of discussing something? What a great poster you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:36:22 2014 No.12071960 >>12071955 What the fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:37:59 2014 No.12071968 >>12071959 Says the guy trying to shit on me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:38:21 2014 No.12071971 >>12071419 Last 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:38:41 2014 No.12071975 >>12071519 > With Touhou, pretty much any post-PC98 character would get plenty of attention More like a select, super popular few because they're a loli vampire, a maid, or a dog.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:39:08 2014 No.12071976 >>12071968 I didn't. Are you somehow offended?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:40:08 2014 No.12071977 >>12071950 The frustrated retards who shitsturmed over it are worse

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:40:59 2014 No.12071980 >>12071975 >a maid, or a dog Same thing. Also LeoModesto is a quack and Kimikomuffin a faggot living in his mother's basement. Period.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:44:30 2014 No.12071987 >>12071980 >Also LeoModesto is a quack and Kimikomuffin a faggot living in his mother's basement. Period. Who the fuck cares? >>12071975 Which characters don't get enough attention except for the newhous?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:45:57 2014 No.12071990 >>12071987 The newhous are immensely popular. A lot of the older, interesting characters are completely being forgotten. I think it's a problem, because it alienates fans of the series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:46:27 2014 No.12071992 >>12071987 I said "period" you dumb fuck. It means "we're done talking about that". >>12071888 Old shit is old.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:47:40 2014 No.12071997 >>12071990 >A lot of the older, interesting characters are completely being forgotten. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:49:03 2014 No.12072003 >>12071997 When is the last time you've seen an interesting faction like Eientei get fifteen minutes in the spotlight? Now it's all about the stupid dog that's only popular because she's a dog. Same with lolipires, maids, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:49:31 2014 No.12072006 >>12071990 Yeah, that's why we keep getting tons of doujin stuff about the SDM.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 11:49:48 2014 No.12072008 >>12072003 >When is the last time you've seen an interesting faction like Eientei get fifteen minutes in the spotlight? Hmmmm...

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:51:42 2014 No.12072012
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>>12071975
Even Kogasa or Byakuren are probably more popular than characters with above-average popularity in Kancolle.

>>12071990
It's a good thing, better than seeing same stuff everyday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:52:59 2014 No.12072014 >>12072012 It feels like certain interesting avenues of story-goodness are instantly being cut off with characters with zero history prior to appearing in the game. It's infinitely frustrating.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 11:53:42 2014 No.12072015 >>12072014 That's what fanfictions are for. Making new stories with old characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:54:12 2014 No.12072018 >>12072014 They have plenty of history. It's not like Miko just suddenly appeared in Gensokyo from nowhere.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:55:09 2014 No.12072019

>>12071676
Example: Borderlands

first game's humor and lighthearted atmosphere despite the setting came out naturally so people liked it

developers took it to the heart too much and in the next game you couldn't play for one minute without some forced on joke and humor going on.

just let us enjoy the lolis and don't shove their butts on us

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:55:59 2014 No.12072022

>>12072015
Authors for those tend to completely skew some character's personalities to absolutely ridiculous levels or they just completely disregard their personality.

Not only that, but they employ tired, samey memes for characters that we've all seen before. Wow. What a laugh. We get to see Sakuya nosebleed over her mistress AGAIN.

Not only that, but it's NOT canon.

>>12072018
The newnewhous?

They probably don't even have a 1/50 of the history that was planned for someone like Eirin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:58:24 2014 No.12072026 >>12072018 By newnewhous I mean the newest game. Miko does have quite a bit of history to her for sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:58:35 2014 No.12072027 >>12072003 Eientei faction is interesting, really? I'd rather see Prismriver sisters than them

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:59:11 2014 No.12072027,1 Worst thread of the year.

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 11:59:29 2014 No.12072030

>>12072022
Only the worst authors will completely fuck up a touhou. Given the versatile nature of Touhou, it's fairly easy to make a decent story, even if you disregard the touhou's canon personality.

But, yeah, if you want characters acting exactly like ingame characters, good luck.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:00:31 2014 No.12072032 >>12072027 I did that too.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:01:29 2014 No.12072034

>>12072027
I think they're extremely interesting.

They're a faction that contains possibly the oldest and most powerful person in Gensokyo. Eirin herself has had a hand in human history ever since we've called caves home. Since she was the original owner of the Emissiaries, she would go down to Earth and meet famous political figures, they would also sometimes hand them a branch of hourai, but the blooming of the branch would sometimes convince the receiver that they were destined for greatness.

>>12072030
I don't want ingame characters acting like they do ingame. I want their personalities to be realistic for the character. It's a little infuriating to see Reisen as a complete pansy in some doujins because she is not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:02:24 2014 No.12072036 >>12072022 I'm pretty sure no Touhou has more history than Miko, because she literally has history. Byakuren, too, has backstory spanning over a millennium. Meanwhile, SDM literally just appeared out of nowhere.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:02:53 2014 No.12072037 >>12072034 >It's a little infuriating to see Reisen as a complete pansy in some doujins because she is not. Please, do not judge all fanfictions because of Omnchicken's retarded doujin. Also, Lunarians touhous are best touhous.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:04:22 2014 No.12072039
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>>12072036
What about Eirin? Eirin has existed since before humanity was even a thing.

It's also 99% certain that Eirin invented magic, being the matriarch of the Moon (And magic being the Moon's power originally).

>>12072037
I think there's a few more than that, but rabbits that can make people insane shouldn't be scurred.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:05:38 2014 No.12072043 >>12072039 Also, if Eirin's ramblings are to be trusted, the Lunarians created the youkai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:05:42 2014 No.12072044 >>12072039 Scratch my last point, since Reisen is probably the only emissary who doesn't scare easily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:06:09 2014 No.12072045 >>12072034 Eventhough I said I'd prefer see Prismriver sisters than Eientei faction, that doesn't mean I said they're bad. I like your points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:06:45 2014 No.12072046 >>12072043 Not quite the Lunarians, but youkai were originally created when mankind saw things that appeared to be scary under the Moon's light. Kaguya said that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:07:22 2014 No.12072047 >>12072036 EoSD is not much different from the PC98 games there. It's very thin. Here's a vampire mansion with some moe archetypes for Reimu to beat up. I don't think the border was even a concept yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:08:02 2014 No.12072050 >>12072045 Thank you kindly, Anon.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:08:43 2014 No.12072051 >>12072046 Is that enough to turn youkai into the Lunar Capital's bitches? Because I like that idea. >>12072039 Yeah, but Reisen is weak against alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:09:50 2014 No.12072055 >>12072051 I don't think so, I think it was just the magic associated with the Moon and mankind's fear becoming manifest. Also at some point they turned into cute girls.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:10:47 2014 No.12072059 >>12072055 Damn, I need to rewrite a few things in my fanfic then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:11:04 2014 No.12072060 >>12072037 >doujin It's ``doujinshi''.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:11:30 2014 No.12072062 >>12072060 "doujin" is an abbreviation used by nips and westerners alike

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:11:49 2014 No.12072064 >>12072060 Oh? Okay, noted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:12:04 2014 No.12072067 >>12072059 I think it'd be pretty neat to figure out what sorts of monsters could be made when one sees strange abstractions and shapes in the darkness with only the Moon's light.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:13:35 2014 No.12072071 >>12072067 According to the canon, only cute girls. But my story would be shit if all monsters were little girls, so let's pretend it's Yukari/the Dragon/God's influence if youkai look like little girls in Gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:14:15 2014 No.12072074 >>12072071 Perhaps. There are still normal, spooky youkai. You can sometimes see them in some of the manga works.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:15:16 2014 No.12072078 >>12072074 If they were translated, of course. I heard rumour about a love-letter youkai that kills people somehow, I'd like to use that one.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:15:35 2014 No.12072079

>>12072071
>According to the canon, only cute girls.

False, there are multiple examples of youkai looking very monsterlike in canon sources, for example that picture of Kyokus and Mystias concert.
You can pretty clearly see some traditional monsters.
And that's just 1 example at the top of my head

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:15:59 2014 No.12072081 >>12072078 It's actually in the latest chapter of wild, horned, hermit or whatever it's called. It's a vengeful, spooky ghost.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:16:40 2014 No.12072083

I don't like the era of 2hu beginning at MoF as much. I preferred the silly standalone plots of the older games and very simplistic gameplay mechanics with no features like collecting bomb fragments in gimmicky ways.

The music changed as well, it has less classical harmonies now and a smaller range of instruments, ZUN seems to focus much more on rhythm these days. However some of my favorite bgm is from newer games, like desire drive and DDC stage 5.

I could never like kancolle as a touhou replacement. It's sickeningly normal and commercial in comparison, touhou never felt like a product, and it has very fun gameplay. I want to make a bullet hell shmup because it got me into them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:17:14 2014 No.12072084 Finally, a good discussion thread in /jp/. Btw, this thread is derailed from original topic

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:17:28 2014 No.12072086 >>12072079 But these are males.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:18:54 2014 No.12072091 >>12072081 No, Anon, it's latest chapter of Forbidden Scrollery

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:19:00 2014 No.12072086,1 >>12072027,1 Smegimr allows it, because it's about TOUHOU.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:19:26 2014 No.12072093 >>12072091 Durrr. My bad, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:20:33 2014 No.12072098 >>12072078 They are translated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:20:37 2014 No.12072099 FS Sukuna is so cute.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:21:02 2014 No.12072104 >>12072098 Nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:22:52 2014 No.12072106 >>12072086 Hmm.. maybe all of those generic youkai in the comics WERE males. This all makes sense now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:23:38 2014 No.12072110 >>12072078 I don't really believe if the love-letter youkai kill that glasses man maybe he's just unconscious

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:24:08 2014 No.12072112 >>12072106 Maybe. There's a lot of speculation about males in Gensokyo. It's commonly accepted they look like monsters, and don't use danmaku to agree on things. >>12072110 I hope it is, otherwise the grimderpfags will be obnoxious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:27:56 2014 No.12072118 >>12072112 >otherwise the grimderpfags will be obnoxious. my mind can't accept if there's someone die on-screen(except for Mokou, but she's immortal) in Touhou, unless ZUN want to be "dark"

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:27:57 2014 No.12072119
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>>12072051
>>12072079
>that picture of Kyokus and Mystias concert.

I think you're thinking of this photo from Byakuren's article, Choujuu Gigaku concert only has humanoid spectators.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:29:20 2014 No.12072123 >>12072118 Same here. I'm not saying Gensokyo should be a happy place where everyone is happy, but people dying should be kept in fanfictions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:30:30 2014 No.12072126 >>12072051 The sheer power difference is enough to turn youkai into Lunar Capital's bitches. Only the fact that Lunarians want nothing to do with impure beings is stopping them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:31:12 2014 No.12072128 >>12072119 Hm, weird could have sworn that I've seen a one eyed thing at the concert picture too

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:31:31 2014 No.12072130

>>12072083
>DDC stage 5
That's also one of my favorite from DDC, along with stage 2 et last boss.
Can't say that same for the rest of the game though. They are all nice, with a few better than other, but nothing that hits me like the older releases do.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:33:07 2014 No.12072135 >>12072126 Except as underlings to keep the mankind at bay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:34:21 2014 No.12072137 >>12072110 Yep, in the new chapter, he seems to have woken up. Speaking of the chapter, I'm disappointed how all futaba posted this time is literally scraps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:35:06 2014 No.12072140 >>12072119 so, the males in this picture are: a cyclop, a flying skull, a kappa(?), and a box-like creature if youkai males in Touhou are monster-like, I think that's cool, no problem to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:35:40 2014 No.12072141 >>12072140 One of those horned things are probably male too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:36:02 2014 No.12072142 File: 3 KB, 48x48, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >DDC stage 5 I opened a video with this theme, the uploader's avatar made me laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcYEuHM84-M

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:37:21 2014 No.12072148 >>12072142 Who the hell uploads stuff like themes to youtube anyways?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:38:11 2014 No.12072149 >>12072148 uploaders

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:38:55 2014 No.12072150 >>12072141 I think those are ears, not horns.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:40:32 2014 No.12072154 >>12072141 I don't think those are horns, I think those are ears. I think the one in the right is shota

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:45:55 2014 No.12072164 >>12072140 I wonder if male kappas looks more traditional. I hope not, since it's unfair if it's only girls who always unique. Now I want shota kappa wearing baseball cap and shorts.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:47:12 2014 No.12072168 >>12072164 Now you understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:47:22 2014 No.12072169 >>12072084 >Finally, a good discussion thread in /jp/. It was better before.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:48:52 2014 No.12072171
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I find it strange, the Lunarians seem more "real" than the Gensokyo girls even though they're all gods and rabbit girls too. The moon has a huge psychological share of humanity, so maybe that's sustaining them, but the moon landings (whether faked or not) should have dealt a huge blow to that.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:49:42 2014 No.12072176 >>12072171 There are too many freaks pretending the NASA never landed on the Moon.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:51:07 2014 No.12072178

>>12072130

It's one of ZUN's most dramatic songs I think, like a more foreboding Higan Retour. It fits the stage well and I prefer the feel of DDC over anything since MoF. But I miss the massive melodies and high speed arpgeggios he used as the background for old windows and PC98 games.

I think the best BGM of any videogame is IN, no modern games have the balls to feature anything like Voyage 1969 or Mokou's theme, music like that is as unfashionable now as it was when the game was released.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:52:36 2014 No.12072181 >>12072178 >liking Voyage 1969 Mein nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:55:06 2014 No.12072181,1 >>12071542 This is the best post I've seen all year.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:55:43 2014 No.12072191

>>12072171
The Moon and its inhabitants aren't Youkai.

They are pretty much super-humans, sort of like a different race of humans that is far more attuned to magic. They are also long-lived, tend to be very beautiful, and are also quite strong.

Moon rabbits themselves are also not youkai. Reisen II is confused when Reimu calls her a rabbit youkai, and youkai aren't even allowed on the Moon in the first place because they're impure.

And considering that they live outside of Gensokyo, they don't appear to need faith to sustain their existance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:57:20 2014 No.12072198 >>12072084 Apparently when you want any kind of discussion around here, you need to make the OP as obnoxious as possible.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:57:35 2014 No.12072199 >>12072191 Aren't the moon rabbits are Chang'E's kids? I'd like to be sure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:58:39 2014 No.12072200 >>12072178 DDC's music is really good. It probably won't get the respect it deserves, not having the fortune to be classic.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 12:58:54 2014 No.12072201 >>12072198 I'll remember that next time I want to start a thread dedicated to Yorihime and how beautiful she is.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:59:39 2014 No.12072202

>>12072199
Chang'e DOES exist and she is the supposed leader of all moon rabbits.

However, her role in the introduction of rabbits to the Moon (As written in the actual story) is unknown.

What is known is that she has ingested the hourai elixir at some point and that she is imprisoned on the Moon.

Moon rabbits are NOT youkai, yet seem to reflect them in some ways. What we do know is that the emissaries have different ears than the general civilization rabbit. They are also naturally tuned to offensive magic in addition to having the mind-bending effects of their eyes.

They are possibly closer to celestials or Lunarians than they are to youkai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:02:08 2014 No.12072206 >>12072201 I'm pretty Yorihime will get enough people offended just by being Yorihime. Adding some comment about dirty earthling peasants won't hurt, of course.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:02:25 2014 No.12072207 >>12072202 I remember reading that for being immortal, she is imprisoned. And just like earth rabbits are pounding stuff for Lord Daikoku, the moon rabbits are pouding stuff for Chang'E.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:03:03 2014 No.12072208 >>12072181 Who are you quoting?

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:03:26 2014 No.12072211 >>12072206 >I'm pretty Yorihime will get enough people offended just by being Yorihime whut?

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:03:36 2014 No.12072212

>>12072207
That is correct, actually! Thanks for jump-starting my memory.

Many moon rabbits pound the ingredients for the hourai elixir, yet they cannot truly make it. They do this in atonement for Chang'es' crime.

Of course, you need Kaguya to complete the elixir.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:05:02 2014 No.12072219 >>12072212 That sounds a lot like Sisyphe's punishment. I wasn't aware they were pounding the ingredients for the Hourai Elixir. Now I want to write a story about Kaguya and Chang'E.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:06:04 2014 No.12072226 >>12072211 Is your surprise caused by the unfortunate omission of "sure" as the third world in the sentence, or by the statement as a whole?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:06:16 2014 No.12072228 >>12072219 Uh-huh. They pound away and away to create the immortality elixir, but they cannot ever come close without Kaguya. Reisen II held the very same job.

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:08:22 2014 No.12072237

>>12072226
Just the omission of "sure". I suck at English, therefore the slightest mistake will keep me from understanding the whole sentence.

>>12072228
Okay.
Question, then : if Kaguya's help is mandatory to create the Hourai Elixir, and since Chang'E is older than Kaguya, then HOW THE FUCK WAS CHANG'E ABLE TO BECOME IMMORTAL to begin with?

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:10:19 2014 No.12072244

>>12072237
That I cannot answer you, but Kaguya is roughly 1400 years old.

It isn't actually stated 'WHEN' Chang'e made her voyage to the Moon, or if Eirin allowed to come up, etc. etc.

Who knows, maybe there's some other crazy version of the elixir that Eirin can make on her lonesome, or perhaps Chang'e could have similar powers to Kaguya; pure speculation thoguh.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:12:47 2014 No.12072248 File: 376 KB, 790x578, Joke1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072244 I must get a Chang'E sprite.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:13:55 2014 No.12072251 File: 302 KB, 776x976, 1a62d76a9ec1d7af6d0dc4c7fbd3b4be.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072248 Who knows what she could look like, as well! I think it'd be better to use Kaguya, she's such a cutie anyways.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:15:31 2014 No.12072254 File: 200 KB, 550x600, ïPûÚ_Å╬éó.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072251 I personally imagine Chang'E looking exactly like Kaguya. Except a bit taller, and with giant rabbit ears.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:19:00 2014 No.12072263

>>12072191
>>12072202
That's interesting. How in the Touhou universe supernatural things can be "real" or not depending on if they originated from belief. Another example, I assume the cycle of life and death with various related places was not simply dreamed up by people, it's an actual thing. But what about the parts of it that were?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:21:37 2014 No.12072267 >>12072263 There is no such thing as natural death on the Moon. People will live forever so long as they remain within the Moon's influence. They can only die from accidents, war, etc. Definitely neat-o.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:25:47 2014 No.12072270 File: 654 KB, 800x1000, 1744a30e688f41a5dc802a2b1a911ef3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072267 That's why being a Lunarian is better than being a filthy earthcrawler peasant. Naa, too aggressive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:27:46 2014 No.12072273 >>12072270 If anything, just mention the sheer audacity that the Watatsukis had to have when they even thought of beating the main cast. The very fact of the Watatsukis winning is enough to send people into full rectal ragnarok mode.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:28:27 2014 No.12072276 File: 163 KB, 450x600, YES.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072273 True.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:29:29 2014 No.12072278 >>12072248 what, you're still writing? i hoped you gave up a long time ago

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 13:33:34 2014 No.12072290 >>12072278 Writing isn't a hobby. It's a need.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 13:44:41 2014 No.12072316 >>12072208 Would you prefer it if the entire sentence which only implied liking the song was quoted instead?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 14:07:38 2014 No.12072364 >>12072276 Moonbitches a shit.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Sat Apr 26 14:11:06 2014 No.12072377

There are still so many fan communities of ancient and "dead" games, that I'm sure Touhou will never die as well. Official works may stop being produced, and the number of active fans may be reduced, but there will always be a handful of people that won't stop liking Touhou, and maybe keep producing media.

I won't compare Kancolle with Touhou as games. They're clearly different.

And about Kancolle's popularity, the marketing techniques and the people promoting it are different from the ones behind Touhou (this >>12071499). And you can't compare the beginning of Touhou on the internet of so many years ago and how viral can something become today.

Artists may move over their next cashcow, but fans won't.
I'll continue to fap to Shimakaze, though.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Sat Apr 26 14:21:39 2014 No.12072422 >>12072377 meant to quote this, ha. >>12071429

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 14:23:09 2014 No.12072430 File: 204 KB, 450x600, ê╦òP_Å╬éó.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072364 How about I kick you in the testicles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 14:23:56 2014 No.12072434 >>12072422 You sure? I'd rather pretend that a game got popular on thong love alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 14:33:14 2014 No.12072466 >>12072430 Wont make Moonbitches any better, friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 14:37:28 2014 No.12072485 >>12072377 >Official works may stop being produced Actually, when official works stop being produced, it may truly be a time to start looking for a new hobby. But we're nowhere near that point right now.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 14:40:42 2014 No.12072499 File: 67 KB, 600x415, Goblin shark.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072466 But it will make you smarter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 14:51:57 2014 No.12072516 File: 361 KB, 720x720, Hitch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072499 Is that a fact? Please elaborate.

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 14:56:26 2014 No.12072530
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>>12072516
That's simple.
1) You're spouting fallacies.
2) I kick you in the testicles.
3) You stop spouting fallacies because of the pain of having your balls kicked with a safety shoe.
4) Since you stopped saying crap, you're now smarter.

Very simple indeed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:02:01 2014 No.12072549 >>12072530 Step 4 seems to be illogical. Have you attempted this experiment upon your own person? I would recommend as such, as you could record the effects in full then. Captcha: yPADoma versicles

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:03:15 2014 No.12072552 >>12072549 Unfortunately, I cannot harm myself because of the third law. However, I can harm you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:04:29 2014 No.12072557 >>12072552 Hmm, insufficient. We must seek out another test subject.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:04:51 2014 No.12072558 >>12072516 He wants you to be a eunuch.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:07:32 2014 No.12072568 >>12072558 No, I just want him to be in pain. When people are in pain, they are sometimes so shocked they stop thinking. And the less he thinks, the less he'll try to badmouth my favourite touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:07:50 2014 No.12072571 shit, /jp/ loves moonbitches now? Touhou is really declining.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:09:13 2014 No.12072574 >>12072571 You're going on my list, scum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:09:35 2014 No.12072575 File: 150 KB, 515x600, Daiyousei5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072571 See, this guy knows what's up. Clearly Dai-chan is best Touhou.

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:25:21 2014 No.12072620
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>>12072575
>a fairy
>being best touhou
>implying you'll be able to play a fairy one day
>implying fairies are interesting enough to be protagonists
HA !
HA ! HA !
I am laughing. This is the sound of me laughing because of your antics.
HA !

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:27:12 2014 No.12072624 >>12072620 Who are you quoting, and why did you forget about Fairy wars

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:28:16 2014 No.12072629 all the girls in kancolle are sluts and it saddens me that the kancolle fandom is almost half the size of touhou's fandom already

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:30:24 2014 No.12072630 wow what happened to this thread? >>12072629 There are like 200 of them already

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:31:53 2014 No.12072631 >>12072629 What motivated you to post such a shit post?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:31:58 2014 No.12072632 >>12072624 Cirno was playable even back in PoFV.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:32:37 2014 No.12072633 >>12072624 It's really sad when a memespouting underling can't even understand what irony is. Wait, not "sad". It's "pathetic".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:33:46 2014 No.12072635 File: 110 KB, 850x922, Daiyousei1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072620 See, >>12072624 THIS guy hits it on the head. You should stop being so bigoted to Fairies, Anon. Bad for your health. Accept Dai-chan.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:36:26 2014 No.12072641 File: 2.81 MB, 2592x3872, Facepalm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072635 This is the last time I'm trying subtle humour with you people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:38:05 2014 No.12072642 >>12072629 It's because of poaching. >>12072641 Humor is supposed to be funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:38:10 2014 No.12072643 >>12072641 Subtle humour doesn't translate well to text.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:38:22 2014 No.12072645 >>12072641 Maybe if your ironic remarks would be actually funny people would have a easier time understanding them

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:39:09 2014 No.12072647 >>12072642 What, the Monty Python picture and the obviously forced laugh weren't obvious? Sorry, next time I'll make it obvious, since it seems you are slow.

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:42:11 2014 No.12072650
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>>12072575
HA! HA !
I am ironically laughing at your proclamation that Dai-chan is best touhou, and to justify my laugh, I claim that a touhou game will never have a fairy as a playable character, blablantly ignoring both PoFV, who featured Cirno as a playable character, and Fairy Wars, who has, except for Marisa, only fairies as character.
HA, I say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:45:38 2014 No.12072656 >>12072647 You did a spot-on retard impression and were mistaken for an actual retard. Congratulations.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:47:02 2014 No.12072658 >>12072656 I should be a politician, I managed to fool /jp/. Vote for me next time !

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:51:13 2014 No.12072665 File: 992 KB, 1400x1400, di.fm nightcore.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12071336 maybe the fanbase is just annoyed to the same re-hash of each 2hu character. Kancolle is like a breath of fresh air. Pic not related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:52:06 2014 No.12072670 File: 160 KB, 850x1133, Dai wants YOU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072658 Imma vote for best Touhou. Dai-chan 2014

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:52:41 2014 No.12072672 Where did this tripfuck come from and why are his posts worse than gigs'?

None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 15:53:49 2014 No.12072674
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>>12072670
If you vote for me, I'll make sure moot make a whole board only for Daiyousei.

That is a joke, by the way. A caricature.

>>12072672
My name was pronounced, therefore I came.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:57:08 2014 No.12072681 >>12072656 nobody is ever "mistaken for" retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:57:27 2014 No.12072682 File: 209 KB, 800x800, 255f40fe35ea37454bc7a114fbda5ff9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it just me or is there a lack of Kancolle love in this thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 15:59:07 2014 No.12072686 File: 954 KB, 1280x720, Big Catch!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072682 Kancolle players are too busy being violated by the event.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:00:08 2014 No.12072693 >>12072682 It's not just you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:00:51 2014 No.12072696 >>12072686 Maybe, but these kind of threads always end up like this.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:02:00 2014 No.12072700

>>12072682
I think there's a lack of kancolle love on /jp/ in general. Kancolle threads just don't get alot of replies. Or the posters aren't dedicated enough to religiously bump the threads for months on end.
Maybe the one general thread, but I get the feeling most of those people aren't really /jp/, and are just crossboarders coming here to brag about their kancolle achievements.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:03:07 2014 No.12072706 The kancolle anime is going to kill its popularity. >>12072656 Stop responding to tripfags who don't contribute.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 16:04:16 2014 No.12072712 >>12072706 >The kancolle anime is going to kill its popularity. Or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:04:48 2014 No.12072717 No one on /jp/ likes Kancolle. No one in the Kancolle general likes /jp/. Yet the Kancolle general is on /jp/. Such is life as a /jp/sie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:05:27 2014 No.12072721 Kancolle girls are much cuter than 2hu. Frilly dresses aren't enough. I also hate Cirno.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:06:16 2014 No.12072726

>>12072700
>I think there's a lack of kancolle love on /jp/ in general. Kancolle threads just don't get alot of replies.
That's because all the "Which girl would you..." goes in the /a/ general.
Also crossboders don't really exist. Most people browse several boards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:07:15 2014 No.12072732 >>12072717 You shouldn't make up lies like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:10:35 2014 No.12072753 I doubt KanColle has the staying power to replace Touhou

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:11:40 2014 No.12072760
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>>12072726
Personally, I'm a frequent contributor in /vg/, specificly /feg/.

Funny thing happened the other day; we had a poll to see who was best waifu. Guess who won. Hint: Pic Related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:11:58 2014 No.12072762 >>12072753 The two of them can coexist.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:14:44 2014 No.12072774

>>12072726
Why not just have the character appreciation along with all the blogging and posting resource numbers? Why insist on keeping it separate? It's like everyone in the kancolle general on /jp/ is a janitor or something.

You can't post this.
You shouldn't post that here.
You can't ask questions.
Where's the fun in that?

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:16:25 2014 No.12072779
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>>12072712
Ever since colle started to encroach 2hu in the doujin realm, the news of the anime version turning out to be just another shitty cash-in is probably the best news I've heard yet.

The character designs are bland, I guarantee you the plot will be rushed, story won't be interesting, and character personalities will clash with fan interpretations(just like a 2hu anime would)

It'll follow the exact same trend that many other manga/game/LN/VN franchises whenever they get an anime adaptation. Kancolle will draw in more interest in the short term while the anime airs, but once the 13th episode is done, the anime fans will move onto something else, then that'll be interpreted by the fandom as a dwindling of colle's popularity, then THEY'LL start to jump ship.

You must be blind not to see how much Kancolle's popularity has dropped. Compare the number of art it was getting at the peak to today. There is barely any new porn these days.

Because it's a manufactured, synthetic, unauthentic fake hype created by greedy corporate fucks that want to play the fandom like a damn fiddle for profit. Notice how only the shittiest groups like IOSYS actually "switched" to colle - They only care about making profit from the new flavor of the month.

Its popularity will start to take an irreversible nosedive that not even a second season can undo. Worse than Haruhi, Higurashi, Umineko, F/SN, Tsukihime, Lucky Star, Strike Witches, and countless others. Historically speaking, whenever a manga/game/light novel series turns out to be popular, that popularity always reaches a peak whenever an anime version starts, and then it declines once it's done airing. Any of the examples I listed, they all started massively popular as a manga, light novel, or game and attracted a good deal of artists, but then once the anime series is done airing, people move away from it for whatever reason. What's stopping Kancolle from reaching the same fate?

My fellow 2hufags, this is gonna be good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:18:52 2014 No.12072785 >>12072779 this guy knows

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:19:17 2014 No.12072786 >>12072779 >it's a manufactured, synthetic, unauthentic fake hype created by greedy corporate fucks that want to play the fandom like a damn fiddle for profit. The ultimate truth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:20:54 2014 No.12072789 >>12072774 I think it's to make it easier to find what you want. If you want help on the game go to /jp/ and if you want to discuss why Haruna is a goddess go to /a/.

>>	None !u.ddykRmDU Sat Apr 26 16:21:20 2014 No.12072791 File: 51 KB, 300x244, 1394144481752.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072779 What am I supposed to answer to that? You make sense, and I don't know enough about animes. I guess I'm out. Until I'm summoned again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:23:30 2014 No.12072798 File: 101 KB, 512x512, 42776570_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072779 Is a declining popularity bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:23:42 2014 No.12072799 File: 10 KB, 200x200, Second.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072779 Good sir, you speak the truth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:23:54 2014 No.12072800 >>12072789 >If you want help on the game go to /jp/ /jp/ - Video Game Generals

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:24:17 2014 No.12072802

>>12072779
I have no problem with trying to make profit, but what they're doing right now is overkill.

How many manga adaptations are there right now? Not to mention none of them are very good, especially compared to some of the kancolle doujinshi out there. Not to mention having an anime this early. I don't think they understand how to manage a franchise. To me, it just looks like they're afraid their ship is going to sink prematurely, so they plan on getting as much money off of it as they can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:25:50 2014 No.12072807 >>12072800 B-but it's not a proper game. Are there even browser game threads on /v/ and /vg/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:28:12 2014 No.12072809 >>12072789 I thought asking for help in those threads was a big no-no. >>12072807 Japanese Mobile/browser games, even translated ones, seem to be a /jp/ related now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:28:15 2014 No.12072810 >>12072807 Why is it not a proper game? And yes, they do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:28:51 2014 No.12072816 >>12072807 Too many weeaboo browser games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:29:04 2014 No.12072818 >>12072802 >To me, it just looks like they're afraid their ship is going to sink prematurely, so they plan on getting as much money off of it as they can. Not even think, they know it won't last. Same reason SnK stuff is getting pushed so hard.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:30:17 2014 No.12072822

>>12072802
>it just looks like they're afraid their ship is going to sink prematurely, so they plan on getting as much money off of it as they can.
Makes sense. I keep receiving weird mails ever since I tried to play that shitty game.
Say what you about Touhou, but at least it doesn't spams me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:31:06 2014 No.12072825 >>12072810 Well this game is basically RNG:the game. You do the same things every day and the only difficulty is getting luck on you side.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:31:42 2014 No.12072827 >>12072825 People said the same thing about XCOM.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:32:26 2014 No.12072831 >>12072809 >I thought asking for help in those threads was a big no-no. Non retarded game related questions is what the /jp/ thread is for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:34:12 2014 No.12072834 >>12072825 So /jp/ is the place for RNG based games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:34:43 2014 No.12072835 >>12072834 If they're about Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:35:33 2014 No.12072841 >>12072834 /feg/get speaking. That's an affirmative.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:35:45 2014 No.12072842 >>12072834 No, it's for Otaku oriented games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:38:18 2014 No.12072848 >>12072842 It's not. The only games that belong here are doujin games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:40:12 2014 No.12072854 >>12072848 Are we really arguing about whether or not Otaku games are part of Otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:41:00 2014 No.12072857 >>12072696 It's almost as if Touhou has four years of proud /jp/ history and Kancolle is a brand new entrant. >>12072774 Because there's too much shit to contain in one thread. >>12072779 Plenty of artists I like switched to Kancolle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:42:23 2014 No.12072860 >>12072854 Otaku shows, such as anime, are also part of otaku culture but they don't go in /jp/. >>12072831 >>12072789 I fucking hate this distinction. You are all fags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:43:13 2014 No.12072862 >>12072854 Are we really arguing whether or not Otaku games are video games. Sorry, but "otaku games" are discussed on /vg/ and it doesn't make sense to bring them to /jp/ now for whatever reason.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:43:18 2014 No.12072864

>>12072799
>>12072785
>>12072786
Thanks for the pat on the back but these types of replies contribute nothing, add to the bump limit, and make me look like I'm samefagging.
>>12072802
>I don't think they understand how to manage a franchise
It's not about that. Kan Colle doesn't have much lasting potential. It's just a fad.
>>12072798
No. It's just that the notion that Kan Colle is killing touhou is ridiculous.
>>12072842
You can be an otaku over anything.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:45:03 2014 No.12072870

>>12072779
>Compare the number of art it was getting at the peak to today. There is barely any new porn these days.
It's almost like all the porn came out during Comiket in one big rush, and then it stopped coming out except at Kancolle-exclusive events where nobody uploads the goods.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:45:29 2014 No.12072872 >>12072854 >otaku games Learn what an otaku is. It doesn't mean "someone who likes cute 2D girls".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:48:43 2014 No.12072881 >>12072862 >>12072872 >Learn what an otaku is. It doesn't mean "someone who likes cute 2D girls" Well actually you're right. What I should have said was games with little interest other than cute girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:50:51 2014 No.12072885 >>12072881 It doesn't matter, it still belongs on /vg/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:53:18 2014 No.12072895 >>12072885 Maybe, but it's here to stay. I don't see these threads get moved anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:54:34 2014 No.12072901 >>12072881 It belongs on /vg/ because it is literally a video game general thread. The /a/ thread could arguably fit in /jp/, but it's not. It's in /a/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 16:59:02 2014 No.12072921 >>12072901 There is anime in the works right now so it will rightfully belong to /a/ when it comes out. Also there are several manga (which are never going to get scanned) so it justifies being in /a/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:05:21 2014 No.12072943 >>12072895 It clearly doesn't belong here but you don't see the thread being moved?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:05:26 2014 No.12072944 >>12072921 I dont think simply having an anime means it belongs on /a/. Perhaps Discussion of the anime itself would, but not the franchise entirely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:05:46 2014 No.12072946 >>12072921 2hu has manga too, but nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:09:27 2014 No.12072964 >>12072943 Well considering the way /jp/ is and the fact that there was talk that /jp/ would get deleted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:12:31 2014 No.12072971 >>12072964 renamed to otaku/random

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:12:31 2014 No.12072972 >>12072964 You wanna finish that thought there, bucco?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:15:44 2014 No.12072978 >>12072972 What? >>12072971 Yes but it would most things would get moved to other boards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:23:13 2014 No.12072993 >>12072978 If you mean by "most" things idols and video game generals, then you're pretty much spot on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:25:28 2014 No.12072999 >>12072993 Well, yeah all things that aren't Touhou and funposting I guess.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:29:15 2014 No.12073009

>>12072848
How new can you possibly be?

>>12072862
You can discuss whatever games you want wherever you want and noone's trying to stop you, just don't go on an autistic shitposting spree whenever people want to do it on /jp/ instead. This is a pretty simple idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:39:58 2014 No.12073039 >>12073009 >You can discuss whatever games you want wherever you want and noone's trying to stop you Is the !bar back?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:47:47 2014 No.12073059 >>12073009 >How new can you possibly be? It's true, though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:49:43 2014 No.12073065 >>12073059 No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:51:52 2014 No.12073072 >>12073065 Yeah, it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:52:58 2014 No.12073075 >>12073072 No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 17:54:25 2014 No.12073079 >>12073075 Tell me about your oldboi experience then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 18:42:16 2014 No.12073188 It was a good run guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjm0Rw_p-rY

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 18:52:25 2014 No.12073212 >>12073079 Too bad, I really wanted to hear it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 18:54:04 2014 No.12073220
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Shimakaze's thong butt/vulva is the only good thing about KanColle.

But I don't need KanColle for my appreciating of thongs.
I will be pleased to see it whither and die, the sooner the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 19:09:46 2014 No.12073260 File: 144 KB, 256x256, geEy1cFs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12073220 Too bad for you she is not the MC!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 19:13:21 2014 No.12073270 >>12073260 So what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 19:25:43 2014 No.12073306 >>12073188 There is nothing you have that Kancolle cannot take away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PWwIBlFz7A

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 19:55:50 2014 No.12073410 >>12073306 What about a ship designed by ZUN. There no way a ZUNship exists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 20:43:42 2014 No.12073523 >>12073410 - ZUN-tier art - ZUN-tier design - ZUN-tier nonsensical power (bringing shadows to life) Akitsumaru confirmed for honorary for Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 21:39:51 2014 No.12073658 Touhou official manga killed Touhou. KanColle official anime will kill KanColle. Discuss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 22:14:27 2014 No.12073731 File: 70 KB, 452x573, unable to negotiate.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12072779 I know this is a copypasta.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 23:40:58 2014 No.12073887 >350 posts and 36 image replies omitted I can't even act surprised anymore.

Anonymous Sun Apr 27 01:43:39 2014 No.12074135
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>>12073731

I know. I feel very hunbled
to see a fellow Touhoufag copypasta one of my posts.

Man I can't wait to see what kind of shitshow the anime will turn out to be. Ready the JDAMs, my friends.

Anonymous Sun Apr 27 15:53:58 2014 No.12075836

I always fail to see how Kancolle is supposed to replace Touhou. People can still enjoy both. The Touhou fandom (including people who don't play the games) is still relatively huge and as long as fanworks are being made, it won't die even if ZUN stops making games. Evidently, ZUN's newer games being boring flops shows that Touhou players are just getting bored of it, but the fanmade stuff doesn't stop coming. On the other hand, Kancolle's primary fandom is the people that play it, which has grown from some dozen hundred players in the first month to close to 2 million a year later. In Kancolle, the fanmade stuff is lackluster, to say the least, but has enough popularity (and money potential) to warrant an anime.

Point is, they are completely separate of each other. The only reason they've been put against each other is because people love drama and elitism, and because both have the sacred all girls cast. The latter being silly as well considering im@s and a bunch of other franchises aren't in the shitfest either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 19:08:29 2014 No.12076268 >>12071791 Stfu nerd

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 23:55:56 2014 No.12077162 I'm trying to interpret which side >>12071350 is referring to, Touhou or KanColle? Or...are both, even, to end as suddenly and forgotten as a dream on a spring night?

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