/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any competent VN writers? r07 and Uchikoshi are good at writing mysteries but holy fuck they can't end anything with decency.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would you play VNs for the story?

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>>12007043
I like murder mystery VN's.

[Anonymous No.]

No they're actually not, and anyway these things are just cyoa manga done using the computer, they're not novels. They aren't even "lite" novels with pictures, they're shit where you pick which thing to say to the tsun-dere or whatever to get her to take her pixel clothes off in public.

I think expecting too much out of them would be a pretty sure way of being disappointed.

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>>12007043
if i was interested in sex id play ur mom instead

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>>12007035
Meteo, Sakurai, Mareni, Ou Jackson, Romeo, etc. are usually regarded as good writers.

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>>12007073
>cyoa manga done using the computer
>pixel clothes
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>12007085
With her giant swollen computer-graphic hands.

[Anonymous No.]

r07 and good at writing mysteries?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12007035
Higurashi had a decent ending to be fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12007109
rika is the bug queen ending?

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>>12007035
It's impossible to have a good VN. A book relies on description to make the story lively. A VN is just like a script, there are next to no description, all you have are pictures of characters speaking and moving.
It's like trying to make a story with sockpuppet. Sure, you can try, with it'll be poor because you can't do anything advanced.

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>>12007148
>there are next to no description
have you ever read a VN in your life

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>>12007148
But sound novels are VN's. And are descriptive and wordy as fuck.

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>>12007153
and still they're nothing else than silly anime stories in text form

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>>12007164
So every Chunsoft sound novel is a anime story? News to me.

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>>12007150
>>12007153
Don't reply to bait

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>>12007166
Haven't read a lot of VN since I don't speak Japanese, but the Muv Luv one I read seemed to be quite "anime" in its plot.
>protag remembers what happened before
>is better than everyone else

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>>12007169
Maybe he just doesn't consider narration descriptive enough. I don't know.

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>>12007171
expelled from /jp/ for stupidity

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>>12007035
You need to realize that VN is a medium created to sell stories without having narrative or atistic skills that can wrap them up for the purchaser fruition. the sole reason they keep being produced is the persidtence of this Akihabara ghost in japan entertainment economy.

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>>12007179
Your wish.

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>>12007166
Name one that isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Gen Urobuchi.

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>>12007166
Never heard of chunsoft, but for the stuff i read from Liar-soft, Nitroplus, KID and 07th Expansion - it was. Some from Liar-soft were still passable although it's filled with moe moe animal girls and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Amazing how VN meta threads tend to attract the worst type of posters into them.

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>>12007187
After reading his stupid crap, its pretty obvious that the only decent products he worked in have been graced by show's director, that filtered and assimilated his scribbles putting on screen the decent parts.

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>>12007195
Like you?

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>>12007198
Have you read Kikokugai?

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>>12007191
Chunsoft made Dragon Quest up until the 8th one. They've made lots of vn mystery games.

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>>12007195
>>12007202

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>>12007195
Like people who try to shit on VNs when the otaku medium is just as bad (see Light Novels and best-selling anime), yet for some reason are still into it. If you don't like it, why not simply go read those really smart and deep literature books from centuries ago?

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>>12007208
Dragon Quest is as close as you can get to being anime and still being an RPG. They even got that Dragonball guy to design the characters.

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>>12007218
Because I already know why Daisy Armstrong is mentioned in that Orient Express story, who controls the Hound of Baskerville, and how Moriarty dies.

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>>12007218
that's why i gave up on anime and VN and just consume dignified comments on the jay and play doujin games every now and then

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Peasants try to talk about things they have no experience with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12007298
Smugfag gonna smug.

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>>12007303
ebin reply /b/ro

[Anonymous No.]

And here's a better opening pic for when OP wants to repost this topic again.

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>>12007298
if you don't acknowledge umineko as the world's best detective story you're not even worthy of this discussion

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>>12007329
>nigger Mion
Why?

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>>12007329
nigga dat's kawaii

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>>12007329
lemon girl: worst fruit, worst character

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>>12007342
I liked "Groundhog Day" more.

[Anonymous No.]

I enjoy Visual Novels because they provide me with a very high degree of immersion, one that I haven't been able to reproduce by consuming other forms of digital entertainment. Indeed, I had been sure that this had been the case for most other people, too. Do you not agree?

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>>12007408
I don't see how it's very immersive when you are constantly reminded that the protagonist isn't you from his narration.

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>>12007371

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>>12007442
Most Visual Novels I've read were translated to first person, so they felt very immersive for me. I wouldn't know how it feels in Japanese, though.

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>>12007450
First person narration is like standing in front of a guy who is telling you a story about his life. I consider immersion when you are the guy in the story.

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>>12007453
Huh? Really? For me, first person always felt like I was the "I" performing the actions, while third person felt very cold and impersonal. I mean, it would be another thing if it was dialogue, but it's narration, so it's like I'm reading my own thoughts, if that makes any sense.

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>>12007461
Maybe he wants second-person narration.

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>>12007465
That would be like playing D&D or something.

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>>12007465
I always thought that was the worst possible narration.

[Anonymous No.]

There are plenty. Some of my favorites are 田中ロミオ, おるごぅる, るーすぼーい, 奈須きのこ, 丸戸史明, 麻枝准, 土天冥海.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you consider good writing? Do you mean good use of language or a well told story?

My favorite use of language has got to be Komorebi ni Yureru Tamashii no Koe

My favorite story for the pleasure of reading is Tasogare no Sinsemilla but everyone has a different opinion on what's enjoyable to them.

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>>12007475
Use of language isn't going to come across since most people just use translations. Story, on the other hand, can be judged even with the translations.

[Anonymous No.]

Now in isometric, yaay

[Anonymous No.]

kek

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, isn't the solution to a mystery the most important part?

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>>12007884
>actually reading mystery for the mystery

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kusothreadaward

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>>12007408
I agree with this.

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ITT: Pretentious erudite-wannabes.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes there are plenty.
And VN is the best medium by far to convey a story.