Official Touhou manga

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Official Touhou manga Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:07:48 No.11990530 [Reply] [Original]

I have read the Silent Sinner in Blue and now I have been reading Forbidden Scrollery.
So I started wondering:

Do all official Touhou manga suck this much? Aren't there any interesting ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:09:33 No.11990532 No, just SSiB. If you don't like FS you might want to just stop now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:11:33 No.11990540 >>11990530 I'd say WaHH and the latter two fairy mangas are the better than Scrollery. That said, Forbidden Scrollery is good. Either SSiB left a real nasty taste in your mouth, which is pretty reasonable, or Touhou manga isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:15:48 No.11990548 >>11990530 Silent Shitter in Blew was the worst FS is decent Fairy one was good Kasen is lewd

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:17:18 No.11990551 File: 983 KB, 900x900, kasen gaaaaah!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11990548 BEST! The word you're looking for is BEST!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:18:33 No.11990557 >>11990551 No, I'm pretty sure she is incredibly lewd, with her having a vagina and all.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:19:49 No.11990564 >>11990557 All the Touhous have that.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:21:48 No.11990567

>>11990532
FS isn't unreadable and the art is good (almost too cute), but there are a few points that I'm uncomfortable with, for example like:
- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
- Despite being about sealed demons and otherwise seemingly serious aspects, the tension never seems to go above a boring casual slice of level. Such a waste.
- The mediocre episodic storyline makes it feel like I'm reading nothing but fillers chapters.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:23:03 No.11990573 >>11990564 Lies.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:26:33 No.11990575 >>11990564 Some even have dicks!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:27:48 No.11990582 >>11990567 Well if problems escalate, that's an incident and those are for the games

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:28:03 No.11990585 >>11990575 All Touhous have that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:37:04 No.11990606 FS has good art. Other than that it does absolutely nothing noticeable. It's like the fairy manga with a worse cast of characters.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:48:48 No.11990639 >>11990567 That's just how the setting works, and that's just how ZUN writes. Take it or leave it, maybe his stories are just not for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 16:58:32 No.11990662 >>11990639 Well, Touhou was always carried by its fandom anyway. I think I'm off to read some doujins again.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:05:02 No.11990683 >>11990567 do you even touhou

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:05:47 No.11990682 >>11990662 hi

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:06:32 No.11990684

>>11990567

>- Despite being about sealed demons and otherwise seemingly serious aspects, the tension never seems to go above a boring casual slice of level. Such a waste.

Reimu's fault for being overpowered and Gensokyo's for not being edgy enough.

>- The mediocre episodic storyline makes it feel like I'm reading nothing but fillers chapters.

Geh, Touhou mangas are almost literally a SoL showing the characters when there aren't major incidents. If the problems are bigger it's videogame time.

Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:18:33 No.11990720 The manga is for advanced fans only.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:25:18 No.11990737 >>11990720 how can i become an advanced fan? should i play the games? they are boring, i don't wanna ^^

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 17:28:33 No.11990740 File: 1.30 MB, 1257x927, 18508083.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like the three fairies manga and WaHH.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 20:10:51 No.11991082

well I like SSiB and novel.
I think what ZUN wanted to is denying casual's famfic. Few years ago(before 2010),most of touhou fans got wrong idea about gensokyo seriously.
In their touhou ,characters and danmaku battles are always be treated pompously like "yukari too stornk" "muh master spark""gensokyo rocks" "yuuka sadistic monster" .
And ZUN stated that they are not so cool and gensokyo is just a rural district. MCs went to moon and offered Yorihime a danmaku battle.
Marisa explained rules to Yorihime (beauty is important) . Marisa said in her book,"If one were free, they need to pursue only "the most efficient, the most effective.Therefore, in a world without rules, danmaku is nonsense."
And Yorihime bodied them completely. Why? Because Yorihime didn't need to follow their local rules nor have fun.She just removed invaders with the most effective attacks.
After all, gensokyo is a small rural district and danmaku battle is silly girls game for outsider,.
Yukari can't beat lunarians and she even knelt on the ground.there was no epic fight that casuals love.
The whole plot is yukari trying to obtain something form strong lunarians by a trick. Its very small as gensokyo itself.
As a result, casual fans went mad and disliked bougetsusho. I don't think Aki eda did good job but that's not the issue.
Other official manga are almost SoL. no epic spell card. no edgy youkai duel.
ZUN is saying gensokyo is not land of danmaku battle and danmaku battle is no longer in circulation in another place.
If you read his works,you can understand what I'm saying.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 20:42:51 No.11991138
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>>11991082
That's why ZUN can suck a dick.

The "casual" fans' visions are far better. In pretty much all of the games the Touhou girls (with numerous super powers) have done nothing but beaten each other up, be it through danmaku or actual fighting. Therefore the fans have been pretty accurate in that sense.

ZUN is shitting on a large (and also in my opinion valuable) portion of his own fanbase if he tries to enforce "Lol, let's have nothing but boredom, little pranks and teaparties!" How fucking interesting.
What's that? Someone's sake barrel was emptied? OOH, AN EXTREME INCIDENT, LET'S INVESTIGATE THAT SHIT! What a twist, it was actually Remilia's cute pet!
WHOO
FUCKING
HOO

I'll gladly take power levels and some actual action over that shit any day. Or whatever other interesting stuff the fan stories have to offer. The official stuff is just bad.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 20:43:22 No.11991140 [DELETED]

>>11990567
>- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
But it's not like she got kidnapped all the time like a dumbass in distress, also it gives a reason for Reimu's job or something.

>>11990684
Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December
I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.

You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 20:44:52 No.11991143

>>11990567
>- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
But it's not like she got kidnapped all the time like a dumbass in distress, also it gives a reason for Reimu's job or something.

>>11990684
>Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December
I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.

You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 20:56:45 No.11991166 >>11991138 Good think ZUN doesn't wants nor needs to pander to fans and rather just shares his vision of Gensokyo with everyone who might like it. For everyone else there's still fanon.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:04:14 No.11991183

>>11991143
>I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.
Nah, the issue was that people were uploading it to manga sites and he couldn't replace it with the final version.

>You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.
...and right now the issue is that he can't find raws, IIRC.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:10:14 No.11991186 >>11991138 Haha, you're pathetic. Slow your hyper angry teen brain down and learn to enjoy something subtle.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:10:59 No.11991187
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>>11991138
I though SSiB was highly entertaining, despite its flaws. I gotta admit I hope you're kidding when you talk about ZUN actually shitting on his fanbase because ... what, the backstory to a video game doesn't have enough story for you?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:11:44 No.11991189 >>11991183 How is that possible!?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:11:59 No.11991190 >>11991187 youmu is a boy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:15:44 No.11991203 >>11991138 The stories are just the boring shit that happens when an incident isn't happening.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:18:59 No.11991212 >>11991186 I've been reading them alright. Can't say the manga stories were very enjoyable but I read them nevertheless. Am I a hyper angry teen for wanting something more interesting? What a wonderful critique from you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:19:44 No.11991214 File: 67 KB, 669x604, ac6e61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The lack of tension is one of the defining aspects of Touhou, ZUN even said that. If that's not for you there are no shortage of series with forced tears and epic sword fights.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:21:14 No.11991217 >>11991212 From your idiot post it was quite clear how you are.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:23:14 No.11991220 File: 15 KB, 300x345, man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11991212 >>11991217 Now, now, ladies, let's not start any fights here

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:24:14 No.11991223 No one gets into Touhou for the story.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:29:29 No.11991235

>>11991223
I kinda did. I wanted to get into this style of game and heard Touhou was one of the easier series with good music, but I only got around to playing it after I stumbled on a translation of PoDD somewhere. I thought it was nice and silly. I guess you could say I played it for the atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:30:29 No.11991237 >>11991223 Came for the cool games and the music, stayed for the story

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 23, 2014 21:39:44 No.11991255 Friendly reminder that actual touhou threads are the worst.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 02:33:45 No.11991777

>>11991255
A bunch of /a/ kids complaining that Touhou is not like Naruto* is not an "actual Touhou thread".

*Before some /a/ kid goes on to say that they hate Naruto (because it's for 10 years old and they're already 14), you can substitute Kill la Kill or whatever action shit they like these days.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:00:09 No.11992505 File: 402 KB, 1057x1524, 1395671719714[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now now kids... Let's put our differences aside and sneak a peak at what Forbidden Scrollery has to offer this month...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:02:24 No.11992512 File: 400 KB, 1057x1524, 1395671899456[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:03:24 No.11992514 File: 403 KB, 1057x1524, 1395672313488[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:04:10 No.11992518 File: 404 KB, 1057x1524, 1395672702773[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:05:39 No.11992519 >>11992505 Fuck you, I want to finish WaHH first. Having to wait for 1 manga to finish is bad enough

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:07:24 No.11992526 File: 400 KB, 1057x1524, 1395673237281[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:08:39 No.11992532 File: 401 KB, 1057x1524, 1395673626463[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:08:39 No.11992533 I just like most of them for the art, SSiB included. Inaba is probably the only one I've enjoyed for reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:09:39 No.11992536 File: 396 KB, 1057x1524, 1395674253974[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:10:54 No.11992540 File: 402 KB, 1057x1524, 1395674699141[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everyone is straight in Gensokyo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:11:57 No.11992545 File: 382 KB, 900x1200, 1395676687603[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:13:28 No.11992550 File: 398 KB, 1057x1524, 1395675648825[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And that's the sneak peak we got to see this month...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:14:42 No.11992557 File: 400 KB, 1057x1524, 1395675846283[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For the Sochi winter Olympics, ZUN went for Russian food, drinking Vodka and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:43:59 No.11992639 >>11992505 You should have made a new thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:47:44 No.11992649 >>11992505 holy fuck benben and not benben get some visibility!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:53:59 No.11992657 >>11992532 When did they get so tiny

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 13:12:14 No.11992680 In a game series where the main focus is fighting, is it not normal to expect it's related material to also focus on fighting? WaHH and FS almost make it look like danmaku battle doesn't exist at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 13:13:44 No.11992684 >>11992680 Danmaku battles are fights that revolve around pretty bullets and cool sounding names with no consequences for anyone involved, so it's natural for the mangas to be lighthearted as well.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 13:26:44 No.11992710
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>>11991183
That guy is a complete idiot if he gets mad about people uploading his not finished version. If you release version 0.5 and then take months to make your final version, people will just have used the old one already because no one will wait that long for whatever minor changes he still wanted to make.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 13:38:29 No.11992735

>>11992680
ZUN's one attempt at doing that resulted in the worst thing to have the official Touhou name. I'd rather have nothing happen than pure shit again. He can't write anything else. It's either nothing or shit. The one manga that aimed for humor instead was not even written by him because he probably realized that he could never deliver that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 14:11:44 No.11992788 >>11992505 Byakushit trying to get new Filthy youkais i see

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 14:18:29 No.11992797 >>11992788 Spoiler: this isn't really happening.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 14:52:06 No.11992845 >>11992797 And that's gonna stop Byakushit?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 14:54:51 No.11992853 >>11992550 Young maidens are angry!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:06:21 No.11992868 >>11992532 Shinmyoumaru got a new friend!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:09:36 No.11992873 >>11992540 I don't know why but I like this scene, it makes me smile for some reason

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:11:06 No.11992876 >>11992536 >>11992540 Is that.... No way.... ZUN!Bar !?!?!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:12:51 No.11992877 >>11992550 So, is this a ghost/youkai of lovestruck person

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:16:51 No.11992887 >>11992877 Perhabs the youkai of unsent loveletters?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:25:51 No.11992911 >>11992887 Heh, make sense than my guess

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 15:35:51 No.11992934 >>11991223 I think it serves to create the atmosphere and setting along with the music well enough. Dunno why people hate it for not having typical anime-like developments.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:15:12 No.11992986

>>11992710
I think this is the problem with the western fanbase.
We depend on only one person to translate the mangas.

In a certain way, he has the power to write anything and make it canon, since nobody else seems to get the RAWs to check it (and apparently, the real reason he isn't doing more translations is because the RAW provider is "AWOL").

The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.
But people seem to not really care if the overall translation makes sense.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:16:28 No.11992988

What you read is whatever fap material ZUN comes up with. The whole lore is like a nonstop marathon of filler chapters, because she enjoy things this way.

Having people struck by an evil mist and then later show them uninjured, or having people wounded by a tiger and then magically healing them next page it is just a proof that he enjoys his paradise quiet, incidents are sporadic distraction.

I like boredom, little pranks and tea parties and Milady's cute pet.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:19:42 No.11992994 File: 17 KB, 180x200, lovely.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11992512 WHY IS UNZAN SO HANDSOME

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:23:27 No.11993001

>>11992986
The translation status for Touhou is awful, just remember that we have ugly retarded Eng patches for the official games with Mokou saying jelly donuts (I know it's a joke but dude come on).
Also we don't translate a lot of ZUN e-mails, interviews and other statuses that often contain precious little information we'll never hear about, like some characters' height etc.

>>11992988
Everytime you say something relatively nice you have to fuckup at the end.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:27:57 No.11993012

>>11992986
>The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.
>But people seem to not really care if the overall translation makes sense.

People rushing to unchecked translations is where we got stuff like Unthinkable Natural Law, Shikieiki, and "immortals can't enter the Netherworld".

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:28:42 No.11993015 >>11993001 Do you have something against expressing my love for the Remimi?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:32:12 No.11993021 File: 32 KB, 512x384, stare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11992988 >I like boredom Dude, you might as well just say you eat up anything that says Touhou instead of stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:33:12 No.11993022 File: 37 KB, 244x274, 1384989781806.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11993015 .

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:39:27 No.11993035 >>11992887 Pretty much, at least if the introductory story as depicted by Byakuren is relevant to the rest of the chapter, which is self-evidently is.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:46:31 No.11993055

>>11992986
>The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.

Really? I thought it was just his way of avoiding responsibility for potential errors.

That's silly, how can you expect anyone to quality check a translation without access to the original.

Also, per the above, we care, but what can we do?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 16:47:02 No.11993058 >>11993021 I doubt he eats up Chado and the like.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 19:04:51 No.11993299 File: 25 KB, 321x361, 1395677189616[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11992873 Lovestruck Reimu is Love

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 19:09:51 No.11993307 >>11992710 He didn't get "mad," he just changed his behavior to avoid the outcome he didn't like.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 19:29:17 No.11993351 >>11992710 >That guy is a complete idiot if he gets mad about people uploading his not finished version Well, good thing he doesn't and you've just completely misunderstood the situation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 19:57:47 No.11993404 >>11992986 >>11993001 IN's translation is terribad, and people still treat it as canon, so now people think Remilia said ''shit'' and Marisa said ''bitch''.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 19:59:32 No.11993407 >>11991138 >The "casual" fans' visions are far better. The casual fans think that Hourai is alive.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:00:47 No.11993408 >>11992532 >holding hands jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:01:47 No.11993411 >>11992540 >>11992536 so finally the concept of affection and love has been introduced. hopefully it stays there.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:03:47 No.11993414 >>11992680 >In a game series where the main focus is fighting touhou is about fighting the same way /v/ is about videogames. the subtitle is there but nobody takes it seriously, all the tea parties at the end of the games show you that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:04:48 No.11993416 >>11993058 Chado has awful stories, they make me cringe in disgust, like that ''I AM SUDDENLY MORE POWERFUL THAN BOTH REIMU AND MARISA COMBINED AND BEAT THEM'' Orin.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:07:32 No.11993425 >>11993407 The casual fans think that Shanghai and Hourai are individual dolls, rather than Alice having tons of each (and a bunch of other kinds themed after different locations).

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 20:42:37 No.11993481 Does anybody have WaHH ch 21?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 24, 2014 21:11:22 No.11993537 >>11993416 They were zombies so it's okay.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Mon, Mar 24, 2014 23:19:37 No.11993754 >>11993021 I don't enjoy many Touhou related things, like I usually save less than 20% of the total of stuff I download. But the few things I keep, I make sure to enjoy them thoroughly

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 02:02:14 No.11993970 >>11993411 As an evil youkai. A fair portrayal. >>11993481 A bunch of people in Japan who bought the magazine.

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 10:54:02 No.11994637
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>>11993425
Heck, Shanghai and Hourai are just spellcard names right? All of her dolls are unnamed (Maybe except Goliath)

Also, Volume 2 exclusive cover of Forbidden Scrollery makes me wish there's a 2hu board game.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 10:59:32 No.11994645 >>11990530 >Do all official Touhou manga suck this much? Yes >Aren't there any interesting ones? No

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 11:20:20 No.11994674 >>11994637 I always though Shanghai and Hourai were one kind of her doll arsenal and not just the spll name, like you name the same family kind of guns. Same thing for the other dolls.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:02:05 No.11994724 >>11991166 >Good think ZUN doesn't wants nor needs to pander to fans and rather just shares his vision of Gensokyo with everyone who might like it. Couldn't agree more. This I think is one of the most defining and strongest parts about the series.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:14:54 No.11994888 >>11994724 Many people would disagree, but i think ZUN is really good at creating atmosphere. So good that it's kind of his weakness, It's too limited and i wish to see more of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:18:40 No.11994892 >>11994888 Sometimes the lack of information is preferable, that way there is more room for speculation. It's one of the reasons why touhou is so big in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:20:24 No.11994897 File: 124 KB, 592x666, rui.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All I'm asking is for more good looking boy characters who actually have names. At least one more? Maybe? Please ZUN. They don't even have to be in the games! Come on...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:21:54 No.11994899 File: 117 KB, 570x558, 1381482751521.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11992540 Oh shit. Is this a canon pairing?

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:25:24 No.11994904

>>11994897
ZUN is scared that it might cause disaster and not fit into the overall setting of touhou.

Also, people would riot because they are scared that their waifu might be defiled, not sure if ZUN would honestly care about that though.

I for one would very much like touhou characters that are boys. Mind you, I'm saying "touhou characers that are boys" because I would want them to be just regular touhou characters who just happen to be male

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:33:09 No.11994915 >>11992540 someone shop sakuya and rinnosuke to get some niggas mad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 13:34:25 No.11994919 >>11992505 >still barefeet my benis

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 14:21:48 No.11995007 File: 432 KB, 800x800, 1336995557138.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11994897 >boy characters >Touhou

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 14:27:48 No.11995022 >>11995007 Not even an androgynous one?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 15:05:51 No.11995082 File: 51 KB, 230x260, 1380655353384.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11995007 Fuck you bitch. Boys are cute. What are you, a lesbo?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 15:09:22 No.11995089 >>11995082 Depends. Feminine boys are cute, but the "handsome" boys fujoshis like are ugly. Actual women have shit taste in husbandos, they also always like the douchebags, never the cute, shy boy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 15:18:51 No.11995107 >>11995082 They are okay if they stay in the doujin territory. Speaking of which... http://exhentai.org/g/570214/f721fecbd2/ http://exhentai.org/g/551410/04bb807db8/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:12:42 No.11995438 >>11992518 OH SHIT HIJIRI FINALLY

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:13:57 No.11995442 >>11993408 she's pulling her by her wrist shitlard

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:15:42 No.11995446 >>11992550 huh, I can't recall seeing them so pissed

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:29:42 No.11995495

>>11994904
>Also, people would riot because they are scared that their waifu might be defiled

If that's the case, then people would have been pissed off that Rinnosuke exists when he was introduced. But now, people accept him fine just like everyone else.

Touhou fandom seems to be one of that fandom that Japanese won't throw a tantrum when there's a male character. They're not like in IM@S when Jupiter was first shown, a lot of people were pissed over that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:41:27 No.11995509 >>11995495 Maybe because Rinnosuke is way too beta and weak to defile anything

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:43:12 No.11995515 How come posts just randomly vanished for no appearant reason?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 18:47:12 No.11995522 >>11995509 >weak yes >beta> hell no, he's awesome. At least, he's not like the typical harem protagonist

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:06:57 No.11995563 >>11995509 he's not beta, he just doesn't give a shit. Hell, he's alpha in his own way, he just does whatever he wants, really.

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:08:42 No.11995566

>>11995509
>Rinnosuke
>Beta

He's actually a smooth talker. He didn't hold back when speaking to the girls, heck when Youmu visited Kourindou for the first time, he's actually being playful mean to her. Something no beta can do.

And yeah, Rinnosuke is a unique kind of male character that i rarely see in a series filled with girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:19:42 No.11995586 If I want to start reading the mangas where should I start? I like light-hearted adventures and playful romps and lolis and punk rock.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:24:57 No.11995595 >>11995586 >light-hearted adventures and playful romps The Three Fairies series seems to be your best bet. >punk rock. We need a Kyouko/Mysita spinoff manga/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:25:12 No.11995596 I know it's not exactly a manga, but am I the only one who enjoyed the grimoire of marisa? I just loved reading the describtions of all these spells and Marisas thoughts on them. It granted me a whole different perspective about how danmaku works

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:27:42 No.11995600

>>11995566

Ya' know, or he's just a regular adult male.

I don't see how tease girls that are much, much younger than you is considered "alpha". Isn't he just being a normal human being?

Since he isn't a strict type of adult that demands respect, he playfully teases or goes along with their whims instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:31:43 No.11995610 >Rinnosuke doesn't fuck every girl he finds >HE IS A BETA AND A WEAK MALE

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:37:57 No.11995618 >>11995595 Thank you for responding.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:42:42 No.11995627 >>11995446 They're young girl, and they just saw a ghost messing with love.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:43:42 No.11995630 >>11994904 Except there are people creating fan version of Youki, as well as Myouren.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:47:29 No.11995636 >>11995630 Fan stuff is irrelevant though. >>11995610 That's how it works, you got a problem with that?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:49:44 No.11995640 >>11994897 That style... I'm sure that guy made a short showing Reisen being fucked in the ass by Eirin. >>11995636 Fan stuff is 90% of Touhou. It IS relevant. Just check every comment on a picture where Sakuya appears. It's PAD jokes everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:52:59 No.11995647 >>11995640 Secondaries do not influence canon content creation...mostly. Besides, I'm mostly interested in Touhou for the superior OSTs.

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:57:29 No.11995655

>>11995647
What YOU care about isn't relevant.
What is relevant is what influences the fanbase as a whole. Sakuya wearing pads or Remilia going "Charisma Uuu~" ARE relevant, despite your wishes, because they accepted by the whole fanbase (except for hipsters like you), and yet are recognized as not-canon (except by secondaries).

You are a moron if you think the Touhou fanbase is just "50% just playing game", and "50% being secondaries only interested in fanstuff". It's not black and white, there are many shades of gray along the way.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 19:58:59 No.11995660 >>11995596 I like Symposium more, but i like you taste

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:01:59 No.11995669 File: 74 KB, 482x463, 20570015.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11995655 Woah dude calm down just chill no one cares

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:03:14 No.11995673

>>11995655
Easy there with your opinions there buddy, nobody tried to discredit your precious fanon, but fan interpretations are simply irrelevant in a discussion about canon such as this one.

That being said, just because kids like you feel the need to belong to a community while spouting overused memes doesn't means that they have any relevance at all

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:05:59 No.11995678

>>11995669
I'm not mad, I'm just explaining. I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole, but this guy just talks about his own opinion and personal taste.

Not my fault he misunderstood "let's talk about fanstuff the fanbase accepted" with "let's talk about opinions".

>>11995673
Except fan interpretations ARE relevant. Since even you know about them. The fact that the majority of the fanbase accepted them as true and the fact that the rest of the fanbase is aware of them is proof that they are relevant and can't be shoved away with a quick "this is just someone's headcanon".
And the rest of your post has no relation with what I said earlier.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:07:59 No.11995684 >>11995678 I honestly don't understand you are logic. How does shitty memes influence canon creation? Do shitposters give ZUN bad ideas while he's drunk?

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:11:14 No.11995690

>>11995678
Every single person on the earth could acknowledge a fanon theory as true, but it wouldn't matter nor would it make it relevant unless ZUN says so.

ZUN always has the last word, and as long as he doesn't completly confirm a theory it will always remain nothing but speculation no matter how plausible it sounds

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:15:44 No.11995700

>>11995684
I'm sorry, I really lack the vocabulary to explain what I mean. I'll try to say it differently.

There is the Touhou fanbase. It's really big.
There are several kind of fans. From the one who only plays the shmup games, to the one who never touched them.
There are things that influence the whole fanbase, either directly, either indirectely.
For example, when a new manga is released, it influences directly the reading fans, and influences indirectly the fans that only play the game (because hearsay and such).
Which means that even if they don't care about the books, they are aware of it.

Now, let's say there is a new epik funny meme XDDD made by some moron like KimikoMuffin.
Let's pretend it's called "Kyouko's theme goes with anything", and represents Myouren dancing while Kyouko's theme is playing.
Somehow, it get popular, and it's of course spammed and reposted everywhere.
Even if you don't care, you end up learning about it, and you end up being influenced by it.
In that way, it was relevant, since it can be recognized by all fans.

So even if you don't like it or don't care about it, you ended up learning about it. So it ends up being relevant, since it touched the majority of the fanbase.
Do you get my point?

And to get back to the main logic, since Myouren and Youkai are popular despite being males, I highly doubt making a male character would be as catastrophic as ZUN thinks.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:16:00 No.11995703 And before you answer, I'm going to bed, so I won't be able to answer your post or explain anything else. G'night, mates.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:19:59 No.11995715 >>11995700 you have a strange definition of the word relevant I'm not sure it means what you think it means

Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:51:14 No.11995813

>>11995700
I think I get what you mean.

But fanon content is meant to be adulterated. As long as I get a good enough experience out of some of the hundreds of thousands of pieces of fanon artwork lying around, I'm happy.

In short, nothing will ever be pure.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 20:57:29 No.11995828 >>11992532 >Star Sapphire is bullying Shinmyoumaru. A final boss getting jobbed by a Fairy? Sukuna worst final boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Mar 25, 2014 22:41:10 No.11996027 >>11995828 how do you know Sukuna got bullied? It doesn't look like bullying to me Sukuna is not resisting, Star is smiling

Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 03:42:06 No.11996563
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>>11995446
That's just their "it's an incident" face.

>>11995563
>alpha in his own way, he just does whatever he wants
It's called "omega".

>>11995595
>We need a Kyouko/Mysita spinoff manga
And how.

>>11996027
>Star is smiling
She's always smiling when she's about to hurt someone.

Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 04:26:20 No.11996615

>>11995655
>>11995700
Fanbase as a whole is composed of singular people whose opinions are irrelevant. That ZUN has the last word is about the only thing a majority would agree upon (and even then we have to speak of majority instead of entirety because of fags like you).

You need to work on distinguishing between people recognizing that some idiot is forcing a stupid meme, and people accepting its contents. Sakuya being flat is no different from, say, Earth being flat. Everyone is aware of the existence of that theory, and some are actually still pushing it. It does not, however, affect humanity's perception of Earth as a spheroid in any way.

You also need to work on your familiarity with canon if you think Remilia's guarding pose is a fan creation. I assure you the more you will learn about actual lore, the less you will pay attention to secondary crap.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 06:54:35 No.11996777 File: 15 KB, 142x229, 7r4PRjl[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11996027 As you can see from this picture, She grab's Sukuna's clothes and point her finger towards her while smiling.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 07:26:05 No.11996811 >>11996777 I don't see her grabbing anything. Sukuna is just having an awkard pose, if you look closely she has one hand on her bow, that's usually a timid pose. They're probably talking about what's the bowl about.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 14:27:48 No.11997448 File: 433 KB, 320x180, 1260150301655.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did they ever fanimate SSiB?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 14:30:18 No.11997451 File: 308 KB, 991x790, ROCK ON2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11995595 Oh god, we need this right the fuck now.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 15:04:33 No.11997512 >>11997448 There was a thing set on the moon before SSiB came out. It had terrible animation, incoherent plot, and a male villain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQVZDjSyEc

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 15:07:03 No.11997518 >>11997448 I only recall this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4ohZycoug

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 15:16:18 No.11997531 >>11997518 Well, it's nice, but animation it is not.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 15:34:51 No.11997560 >>11997448 Sort of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvrBZcba288

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 16:13:21 No.11997617 >>11997560 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0W775-yuDc A bit more relevant to the plot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 16:17:51 No.11997621 >>11997451 Byakuren wants to discipline Mystia for being a bad influence. ... I can see the plot now!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 16:19:07 No.11997623 >>11997621 And Kyouko leaps to her friend's defense! I love it!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 16:34:02 No.11997644 >>11997621 Does Byakuren's discipline involve spanking? This will decide which side I'm on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 17:08:18 No.11997689 File: 685 KB, 800x1400, choujuu_gigaku_78[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11997621 >>11997451 http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/seems_like_wriggle_is_joining_choujuu_gigaku

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 20:56:26 No.11998027 >>11994637 "Goliath" is just a magical modification on one of her usual dolls. Any single doll can become "Goliath".

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 20:56:56 No.11998028 >>11998027 Prove it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 21:06:34 No.11998041 >>11992536 Why does that glasses guy remind me of Full Metal Alchemist?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 21:30:30 No.11998074 >>11997621 When will Mystia persuade Kyouko to get her ear pierced?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Mar 26, 2014 21:37:00 No.11998086 File: 526 KB, 708x1000, kyouko32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11998074 Never.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Mar 27, 2014 15:31:51 No.11999431 File: 215 KB, 500x345, 1367716888083.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11998041 Shou Tucker

>>	Anonymous Thu, Mar 27, 2014 15:57:36 No.11999479 But silent sinner in blue is pretty much perfect. You are dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Mar 27, 2014 18:05:21 No.11999690 File: 14 KB, 174x165, yukari3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11999479 Toyohime you're not welcome on this board

Anonymous Fri, Mar 28, 2014 13:28:23 No.12001806

Yes, they're all pretty boring with very little going on. SSiB is probably the only official Touhou manga where something actually happens, so if you're looking for something more eventful, you've already read it. Everything else is just take it easy and try not to fall asleep while reading if you were looking for exciting stuff. The fairy manga and WaHH are pretty cute though. Look into some doujinshi, they cover a much broader range of genres. You're definitely more likely to find something more fun to read there.

Anonymous Fri, Mar 28, 2014 13:56:39 No.12001845
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>>11999690
That picture reminds me, Koishi Komeiji's Heart Throbbing Adventure was pretty interesting.
At least until everyone went batshit insane and the story fell apart due to the introduction of deeper plot.

The character interaction was intriguing.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 28, 2014 14:30:56 No.12001887 >>12001806 >m-muh shounenshit i just want to take it easy with the 2hus

>>	Anonymous Fri, Mar 28, 2014 18:21:13 No.12002255 >>12001887 who u quot dude

Anonymous Sat, Mar 29, 2014 13:08:43 No.12003778

Why is it that all the Touhou manga are like this?

I mean yeah, SSiB was godawful, but at least it focused on the stuff that mattered.

Every fucking other manga focused on slice of life stuff, which I highly doubt anyone is interested in reading all that much.

What would you like to see: Marisa Master Sparking some horrible youkai into oblivion, or Sukuna pranking Reimu?

Anonymous Sat, Mar 29, 2014 13:32:58 No.12003820
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>>12003778
You mean Master Spark vs. Lunarian hax? I liked SSiB's occasional slice of life moments and Reimu's tacky swimwear but that's all. Inaba was much more to my liking.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 29, 2014 13:35:58 No.12003828

>>12003778
Never mind what the term actually means - how is solving supernatural mysteries and dealing with dangerous magical creatures "slice of life" under even the broadest t/a/rd definition?

What would you consider "not slice of life", an overarching plot where the characters set on a journey to save the entire Gensokyo from an impending doom? I honestly don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 29, 2014 13:38:59 No.12003834 >>12003828 Because half the story is them talking about their daily life and ignoring the plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 29, 2014 13:52:28 No.12003870 >>12003834 Even that's not true. They mostly talk about the plot. Do they just talk too much for your liking?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 30, 2014 09:50:57 No.12005695 File: 1.07 MB, 1536x2048, 1396110370173[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Faceless male is canon now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 30, 2014 10:00:49 No.12005716 >>12005695 Still not generic enough, and he doesn't have the classic smiling mouth.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 30, 2014 10:17:10 No.12005768 >>12005695 Did you mean "eyeless"? Yeah, he doesn't look generic

>>	Anonymous Tue, Apr 1, 2014 21:25:32 No.12012424 >>12005716 >>12005768 But i've seen a lot of faceless man without the usual hair down cut that looks like every single insert male characters out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 2, 2014 17:47:40 No.12014266 >>11992735 >the worst thing to have the official Touhou name Which is what? SSiB?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 2, 2014 17:48:55 No.12014268 >>11992797 Don't listen to Ondore's lies!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 2, 2014 18:01:38 No.12014280 >>11995640 Where does the whole PAD thing come from anyways? I was wondering about that earlier today. Is there a specific video or doujin that started it?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Apr 2, 2014 19:13:09 No.12014367 >>12014280 It came from how Alphes draws breasts and ZUN doesn't. So fans insisted that Sakuya was padding in her fighting game portraits.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Apr 4, 2014 04:55:09 No.12017992 http://www.e-hon.ne.jp/bec/SA/Detail?refBook=978-4-7580-1374-1&Sza_id=MM It looks like WaHH volume 4 will be out this May.

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