Everything you always wanted to know about Touhou...

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

...but were too afraid to ask. (Thread #2)

Greetings! Touhou is a huge franchise, with record-breaking numbers of games, music, books and comics, both official and unofficial. As a result there's a lot of different ways to get introduced to it, and new fans can quickly become overwhelmed trying to figure things out. Even veterans can get confused when certain details are obscure, mistranslated or rely on Japanese cultural assumptions.

That's where I come in. If you have any questions about Touhou, post them here and I'll try to answer them. I won't pretend to know everything about the series, but I know a good deal, so hopefully I can make a few anons happy.

First off, three types of questions that I usually won't be able to answer:
1. Anything related to a fan work rather than official content (beyond things like "what is this based on?"). If you're not sure whether something is a fan work, ask.
2. Gameplay advice. What works for one person won't always work for another, and most of it comes down to practice and memorisation anyway. Just keep at it; you'll get there eventually. Or install a godmode patch, whatever. If you're not good at the shooting games then try the fighters, and vice versa.
3. Anything even vaguely lewd or sexual. Even high heels are too lewd for ZUN, so don't expect him to have given many details on this stuff.

You can also try checking out http://en.touhouwiki.net/ - it has general Touhou information, transcripts, and links to various other useful sites.
Ignore the other site at Wikia.com. To make a long story short Wikia has fewer features now than it did a few years ago, and it's company policy not to let sites with high Google rankings go abandoned.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Marisa so western-like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11961929
Why is the best canonical Touhou couple Alice and Marisa?

[Anonymous No.]

is this like the old kantai collection? i only recently started being a faggot,wasn't aware years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962007
>i only recently started being a faggot
unlikely

[Anonymous No.]

>>11961995
Gensokyo is supposed to be a mix of equal parts east and west:
>The name "Team Shanghai Alice" was chosen to fit the overall theme of the Touhou games. "Shanghai", in ZUN's mind, is a multicultural city where the East and the West meet. "Alice" can be a child living in the foreign concessions, but the name Alice also suggests a fairy-tale element. So together, "Shanghai Alice" encompasses the blend of oriental and western aesthetics along with fantasy.

Marisa is the western witch, Reimu is the eastern shrine maiden.

[Anonymous No.]

Which Idolmaster would make the best Touhou?

[Anonymous No.]

How did the whole Reimu is a zombie thing start anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962009
>>11962009
>unlikely
unlikely i started beign a faggot? takes one to know one?

fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962019
Bad art in MoF turned into a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

How many drinks, on average, does ZUN have before he designs a character?

[God? No.]

How does Yukari-sama's boarders work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962599
this!

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11962019
One of her portraits had weird skintone.

>>11962599
She can create portals between places (with certain restrictions, though we don't know the actual rules behind them), and see through barriers as if they weren't there. As another use of her power she can create floating eyes that spy on people. She's also a skilled onmyoji, meaning she has a lot of conventional magic related to barriers.

According to the Gensokyo Chronicle (aka Perfect Memento in Strict Sense) Yukari's border powers are pretty godlike, but remember three things:
1. Yukari is a youkai, a being created by human fears. Youkai *need* humans to fear them, and enjoy making it happen.
2. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Monologue
>In addition, I received a great number of requests from youkai (Such as, "Make me sound stronger," or "What do you think of this power?"), so what started out as a guide to help humans defend themselves from youkai became, before I knew it, a manual for youkai to help others learn about them. In fact, a number of the youkai threat levels have been inflated somewhat in this volume.
3. Pic attached is a thing that happened.

The best advice I can give you is to read the stories on the music CDs, on the assumption that Maribel is a younger Yukari or at least has the same powers. She talks about their mechanics more than Yukari does.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think the story mode of soku/swr are accurate representations of how a danmaku battle would really work?

[Anonymous No.]

What will the next 2hu game be about?

[Anonymous No.]

What are the extents of Mamizou's powers? I know she can shift, but are they like Nue's?

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>>11962726
Yukari can manipulate the boundaries between things. This extends to logical things like, well, fantasy and reality is a great example. She's a pretty cool character because concepts like boundaries, interstices, opposition, and undecidability come up a lot in philosophy and she carries a lot of those things, albeit vaguely.

[Anonymous No.]

How can Reimu keep her armpits from becoming stinky in a world quite lacking in personal hygiene items? Is she surrounded by the perpetual aura of earthy mustiness?

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>>11961929
Ajuu? More like A Jew, am I right?

[Anonymous No.]

Who are the youkai sages? Do we even know?

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>>11962726
>Yukari's border powers are pretty godlike
even if her powers are overestimated, the fact that she is able to open a hole in the space is pretty amazing...

>1. Yukari is a youkai, a being created by human fears. Youkai *need* humans to fear them, and enjoy making it happen.
>on the assumption that Maribel is a younger Yukari
What kind of youkai is she?
How she was made? -What kind of fear is needed to create a youkai like Yukari?
is there a possibility that she isn't a youkai?

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>>11963459
>is there a possibility that she isn't a youkai?

Given that the definition of youkai ranges between "anything supernatural" and "anything supernatural that isn't a kami", roughly 0%.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11963096
They have both sides using (non-spammable) spellcards, so they're closer to the rules than the shooting games I guess.

>>11963109
Nue isn't a shapeshifter. She hides the true appearance of things, so that they look like whatever the viewer is expecting.
Mamizou is an actual shapeshifter, like all tanuki - they're the best shapeshifters in Japanese myth, at that. Unlike most tanuki Mamizou is actually really strong, enough that when she turns into someone she can fake their attacks. In Forbidden Scrollery we saw her turn into a bonfire, while in Hopeless Masquerade we saw her turn other people into animals. She knows onmyodo as well, and can summon paper shikigami and create powerful seals.

>>11963122
Correction: Yukari says she can but has never done so, even when it would be useful. She's still really strong, mind, and makes great use of what she does have.

>>11963372
Yukari has been referred to as "the sage of the youkai".

[Anonymous No.]

Was the rough ZUN drew for Koakuma and Daiyousei's portraits ever made public?
Has he ever said a word on their would-have-been spellcards?

Actually, has ZUN ever used any content that he had to drop to meet deadlines? Like Satuki Rin. And by using I don't mean the usual recycling he does (by recycling I mean to denote the inspiration he gets from the former games he made, I'm pretty sure it's not just me overanalysing stuff)

[Anonymous No.]

What is sex?

[Anonymous No.]

If youkai need human fear to survive and basicly die if they aren't remember anymore, how do youkai in the underground survive?
I can't imagine someone like Okuu or Orin who barely ever go to the surface being feared, and I think youkai like Satori and Koishi have been forgotten before the events of SA and only feared by other underground youkai.

Is it possible for a youkai to become independant of humans?

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou seems too big to only have the games and doujin.
Does it have any "official" manga or etc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11964574
The frontpage of the wiki lists all the official works, including manga and books. Don't expect anything too good though, especially from the 2 earliest manga. They are shit.

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>>11964574
manga or anime are a stupid medium, i would rather read a full touhou novel about some tales in gensokyo and it's history
>>11963122
if she's good at math, she sure knows how to manipulate her boundary value problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>11964595
>Don't expect anything too good though
did you even read the books

>>11964620
Well lucky for you, most of Touhou's lore is fleshed out in books or other texts.

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>>11963372
Yukari at the least, but it's theorized that there aren't actually any more and it's just Yukari pumping things up to make it sound as though there's more than just her pulling strings.

>>11963935
>Yukari says she can but has never done so, even when it would be useful.
Judging by the limitations she's been shown to have, I think it's pertinent to assume that she actually can't manipulate such complex things, especially abstractions, without immense effort.

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>>11964445
I've been struggling to wrap my head around this myself, but here's what I've got:

First of all, while human belief powers supernatural creatures, it's never said it's the only thing they can subsist on. If we take Eirin's words at face value, for example, she predates the entire humanity.
Second of all, Gensokyo (which underground is a part of) is specifically designed to serve as a counterpart to the real world. Things that exist within it do so on the virtue of being forgotten on the outside.
Third, not only youkai's existence, but their shape, powers, behavioral patterns and basically everything they are is determined by human belief. However, youkai that have achieved self-awareness are able to break free from it and develop their own distinct personality. It's not a stretch to assume it frees them from relying on human beliefs in more ways than one - and we in fact do see examples of youkai existing for thousands of years without human contact.

Lastly, and this is the part that kinda shapes it all into a consistent theory - it may be that what destroys a youkai is not lack of belief, but active disbelief. Basically, without humans around, it can continue to exist in an unchanged state, and only gets "rewritten" to match their expectations when they encounter it and explain its manifestation as some mundane natural force. Compare how Byakuren and friends were perfectly fine after thousand of years without human interaction, while yamabiko get endangered by something as simple as people in Gensokyo learning about sound waves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11964620
>if she's good at math
That's what Ran is for
Supposedly her mathematical ability is the equivalent of a living computer

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>>11965710
Ran herself says she has no shit on Yukari.

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>>11965703
>youkai that have achieved self-awareness are able to break free from it and develop their own distinct personality
>it may be that what destroys a youkai is not lack of belief, but active disbelief

Neat
thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11963935
Speaking of Yukari, what would her most impressive feats be, anyway?
From what I can tell, it would either be transporting a large group of Youkai to the moon, albeit under special conditions, or manipulating the boundary between night and day, as she does in PCB, IaMP, and IN.

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>>11965335
If i wanted to read a good book i'd most certainly not pick anything written by ZUN.

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>>11965335
that aren't novels, afaik it's just some tables with power levels and how much humans like them or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966196
If I wanted to read a good recommendation, I'd most certainly not pick anything written by you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966251
Naturally, telling someone to choose every book ever created with the exception of ones from a particular author isn't much of a recommendation.

[Anonymous No.]

Not really Touhou, but I haven't been here for a few years, and now I don't see ZUN!bar.
What happened to him? Did he died in the war?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966368
Chisame died in the war, ZUN!bar is fine and still posts.

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>>11966368
I hope he's dead.

>>11966196
I have no idea what you are talking about, I love the official mangas, they fit very well into the big picture since they are very easygoing and silly most of the time.


>>11961929
Koishis ability is to manipulate the subconscious, do you think that she could turn subconscious actions in our body off?
Like making our hearts beat manually which would of course result in death.

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>>11966525
You're mixing up subconscious with physiological.

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>>11966525
i don't like the manga because they're trying too hard to be moeblob, or maybe ZUN is just bad at writing or giving proper instructions

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>>11966545
I don't feel like they are moeblob either, at least not when you compare it to modern moeblob animes where there is no real plot and literally just cute girls doing stuff.

In the touhou mangas you often just have the characters hanging around until something interesting happens. And these things oftentimes have serious undertones, like events that pose a potential danger to Gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966525
The manga only become decent after Eastern and Little Nature Deity changed artist + name and SSIB was finally over. Those two manga are the kind of shit people only eat up because it says Touhou on the cover. Bad art and writing don't become good because they are official.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966545
>moeblob

Please don't use that kind of language here.

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>>11966550
The thing that makes me eat up these objectively shitty mangas is indeed that fact that it says touhou on the cover, but that's because I'm happy about every piece of information we can get even if it comes from a manga that isn't as good as its succesors

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966545
FS looks awesome. That's the best looking thing in Touhou. Makes WAHH look like shit in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11966525
>>11966536
The heartbeat is myogenic; the brain manipulates the rate through chemical factors, but the heart will beat without any signals needed from the brain.

Koshi could maybe cause you to breath manually, but I already just did that.

>captcha: nurses blyHon

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>>11966185
Youkai Expansion Project was almost definitely a bigger deal than the first lunar war in all respects.

>>11966232
Did you even look? What the fuck man? Novels they may not be entirely, but the content is just as dense.

>>11966545
pic related motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>11968901
Sauce pls? Tineye returns nada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11968901
Well, CoLA and CiLR can only be classified as novels.

>>11968971
Forbidden Scrollery. Why do you even need to ask?

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>>11968901
Why is marisa wearing these slutty boots.
I had printed work like "Symposium of Post-mysticism" in mind.

Some printed work like "Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth" seems to be dead on the wiki.

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>>11969037
Just read all the printed works, my favourites are the fairy mangas.

They give a nice insight on the life of these annoying little buggers you casually shoot in every stage

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>>11961929
Here, more of a request if you can >>11969290

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>>11969307
ZUN already acknowledged he can't draw. In the past he had some pixiv account and was selling drawings of cute little girls, it seems he stopped doing that totally. The rest of the post is just trash.

>>11969305
They live in trees or something, that's all you need to know about them.

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>>11969329

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>>11969329
Thanks to the fairy mangas we also know that Tengus lay eggs.

I wonder if they also hatch from eggs. Who knows

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>>11969329
>In the past he had some pixiv account
Does this new generation not know about personal websites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11969329
>In the past he had some pixiv account and was selling drawings of cute little girls, it seems he stopped doing that totally.
I bet they are worth a fortune

[Anonymous No.]

When was the time Byakuren started to genuinely helping youkai?
Was it before she recruited Shou, Minamitsu and Ichirin or way after that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11969762
Wasn't she a youkai exterminator using youkai powers before she met them?

[Anonymous No.]

I'll just paste my question from the last thread:
When do you become an youkai? As in, I know that after a while you study as a magician, don't need to eat or sleep, okay, cool. But when do you start to need belief as sustenance or can respawn? Is it when the nearby group of humans start to see you less as a human, but more of a scapegoat to blame because something happened, so they go "Oh, that person must be one of those magician youkai I've heard about"?

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>>11969817
I'm sorry to tell you that youkai don't exist in reality, so you question isn't feasible to answer.

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>>11969817
> Is it when the nearby group of humans start to see you less as a human, but more of a scapegoat to blame because something happened, so they go "Oh, that person must be one of those magician youkai I've heard about"?

Wait, so jews are youkai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11969832

It's ok, Nep.
>>11969850

Of course.

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>>11969894
So Hitler was like Reimu, trying to exterminate them for the good of mankind?

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>>11969850
>>11969894
>>11969896
>Keep /pol/ in /pol/

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>>11969762
Some time before Shou. She had already set up the situation where she would secretly help youkai out of self-interest before she decided to do it for their own sake, but it's implied that they couldn't really live there, and later didn't want to live their out of fear of Bishamonten. It was only then that Byakuren decided to introduce Shou as a representative.

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>>11970230
>their
holy shit I haven't done that even by accident in years

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>>11966545
I thought the Manga nowadays are a huge lessons on Japanese History, Culture and Mythology. Also they serve as a side story to the main games at times.

If you call the manga moeblob stuff, I did not see any obscene stuff there yet.

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>>11966550
>Reading SSiB without reading CoLR at the same time

Sad to say, you're doing it wrong. That's why you can't appreciate the Lunar war arc.

Also Ajyuu, Am i the only one who thinks that Windows Touhou series has Arcs? I mean The Lunar War arc (Bougetsushuu) was a huge deal with TH06-08 being the foundation of the arc.
And then there's the Religion War arc with TH10-TH13 being the foundation which leads to SoPM and then HM.
Does that mean TH14 might be the beginning of a new arc?

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>>11974650
Touhou very clearly has story arcs, yes. Can't really assume DDC's events will lead to any other major events until they happen, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11974650
SSIB does not become any better if you read CoLR because, big surprise, the art and writing in the manga don't change. They are still shit.

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>>11974729
Whether it's shit or not doesn't matter. If you want the true skinny on the characters, you go for official written works. It ESPECIALLY helps in figuring out just what the hell goes on in Eirin's head sometimes, though her random bouts of insanity/lack of comprehension are still sort of chalked up to her possibly being dozens of millions of years old and therefore can't really be grasped anyway.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

Internet was down for a while, couldn't get on. Will be back later.

>>11974650
You're far from the only one, though the edges sort of overlap?
ZUN was already planning Imperishable Night while working on EoSD. At least, he wanted IN to feature human-youkai teams and was trying to set them up ahead of time.

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>>11974912
Eirin is a model Lunarian, but she tries to get Eientei closer to humans and youkai. I doubt she can, as a potential immortal, really understand the mindset of short-lived humans, or of beings that are seemingly inherently bound to certain acts or feelings.

Is Yuyuko cold like other ghosts, or do ghosts that retain their shape work on a different set of rules?

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>>11975165
I think after the Lunar Invasion incident, She came to understanding about earthlings who have shorter lifespan than her. Especially when Yukari offers her a taste of her own kind's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it explained whether Miko was a male or female pretending to be male?

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>>11984199
better questions:
1) Was Miko acting unethically when officially supported buddhism to pacify japan while secretly practicing taoism?
2) Is Aya a realistic journalist who is simply providing flashy content to a market that demands flashy content, or is she an opportunist that is duping her readership?

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>>11984221
Touhous are full of bitches. You know the answers.

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>>11984229
"Who cares"
Am I right?

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>>11984199
The term 太子様 is seen as "male" to the audience because of their notion of who Prince Shotoku is, but the fact is that Miko is female. It isn't about whether she "was" male or pretending to be so, it's a jab at how historians are considering the possibility that the "historical" Prince Shotoku figure never actually existed. Hence, they turned up in Gensokyo. Having a figure who is historically considered male but whoops actually female all along; is history wrong? Is Shotoku made up? Miko's in Gensokyo now so is she only now considered made up? etc, is the entire point being made.

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>>11984199
She was male before being resurrected. When she came back she had either undergone gender-swapping or was in a totally new body. I'd bet on the latter.
>>11984221
1) That's a matter of opinion, and if anyone suffered because of her.
2) The latter, I think. There's not much demand for flashy satire in Gensokyo, or at least not in the human village.

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>>11984270
>The latter, I think. There's not much demand for flashy satire in Gensokyo, or at least not in the human village.
That's a hard line to walk, though.
Pander too much to your audience, and you risk diluting your reporting with unimportant content and unhelpful sensationalism.
Cater too little to your readers, and you risk losing them to more interesting/accessible publications.

Gensokyo is no different from any newspaper or radio station you or I might choose to patronize. I believe that Bunbunmaru is described as one of those papers that people flick through while snacking at a tea house, though I can't remember where. Sounds like Aya is writing for a market of bored assholes with lots of shitty opinions.

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>>11984301
I should mention that Aya only needs to worry about pleasing her readers if she relies on them for ad buys or subscription purchases.

She can write whatever the hell she wants if the Great Tengu Lord funds her operations in order to spread tengu propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984305
>>11984301
Hatate's slimy cloaca

[Anonymous No.]

Could Remilia fall in love with a human like me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984787
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984262
But she indeed introduced herself as "Prince" and her cohorts call her "Crown Prince" so it's still unlikely that perhaps she was a "princess" back then or known as woman.

She must had been pretending to be male or she was indeed male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984795
well what's the point of the character then

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984818
You fall in love with her.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any guide to Touhou manga? I'm confused and I don't know where to start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984818
So a character only worth if she loves you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984825
?

what's the point otherwise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984824
You can really read them in any order. Go on touhouwiki.net and pick the one that looks most appealing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984832
I don't know. If you think that way then perhaps you want George to love you, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984842
George is not worth of anything, though. Nobody loves George. George doesn't love anybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984824
If you want to read everything, start with the shitty looking ones. That way you can read the manga as things improve. Do not read Forbidden Scrollery first and then start Eastern and Little Nature Deity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984847
That's right, while reading EaLND, just remember that eventually it ends up looking like this.

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>>11984221
She's just clueless about operating a viable newspaper, regardless of whether you measure quality in terms of popular appeal, revenue or reputability.

>>11984270
Nobody'd bet with you, it's already explained in detail that she's got a new body.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you enter Gensokyou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984910
Mix bleach and vinegar, stir until a portal appears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984910
Say "Yukari is an old hag" 3 times in a mirror.

[Anonymous No.]

wud u fk dis 2hu?

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>>11984902
I'd forgotten the explanation when I posted... and now I remember just how she did it, and am now left wondering why the hell the new body ended up being female. Was the prince just that curious that he wanted his own female body to fondle, or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984914
marisa da best 2hu - definitely fug!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984914
Put Flan and it'll be Flan McRoll

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11984199
>Is it explained whether Miko was a male or female pretending to be male?
It isn't. Her title translated as "Crown Prince" is seen as masculine but doesn't really have a female equivalent, so she probably would have used it even if she was openly female. It's not that uncommon.

And there's also the option that historians just changed the story, for which you can probably blame Hieda no Are.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11985020
Miko making adjustments to her sword-body does seem like it would be possible though, given some of the stories about hermits. There's a line about her "updating her appearance" where Futo didn't, though that's probably just referring to clothes.

I doubt ZUN will ever give a canonical answer on Miko unless someone asks him directly. "Magic transsexual" seems improbable, but a little multiple-choice makes the backstory doujins more varied (see also: Sakuya).

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>>11985061
>"Magic transsexual" seems improbable
In what way?

Also, the line in question cannot refer to clothes. Clothes aren't part of the body, if Miko wanted to change hers, she'd just buy some new ones, rather than use her new special shikaisen ability.

[Anonymous No.]

What exactly is the youkai grassroot network?

Some form of communication network for youkai?

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11985097
>In what way?
Men barely show up in Touhou, and the cast's gender doesn't seem to have any effect on their lives. Going in-depth about gender identity would be completely out of left field. Especially since the series is already dealing with the differences between humans and youkai, which make gender seem minor in comparison.
Plus, how would most Americans react to a game that said George Washington was transsexual? 2controversial.

Again, this is just what I think ZUN would do given his writing style; there's no in-universe evidence one way or the other.

>Also, the line in question cannot refer to clothes. Clothes aren't part of the body
Who said anything about part of the body? Miko's outfit is definitely more modern-looking than Futo's.

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>>11985441
How did this turn into a talk about gender issues? Yeah, ZUN is unlikely to incorporate them into his setting. This in no way changes the fact that he took a male historical figure, turned him into a girl, and gave her a backstory that involves magical transformation.

Let's put it this way - how would Americans react to a game that had George Washington reborn in a new female body? Would they theorize he was actually always a girl in that setting?

>Who said anything about part of the body?

Your previous incarnation, roleplayer-kun.

>Since they have already abandoned their body and flesh by the time they resurrect, there is some degree of freedom to the forms they can assume, but it said that most shikaisen will choose to look similar to their old appearances. This is because of their attachment to their appearance, as well as so others can recognize them. For this reason she has her old-fashioned look, while Miko changed to a look more suited to modern times.

Context implies it's not about clothes and make-up.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the story on Rumia?

How exactly does her power work?

What's her personality?

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11985592
>How did this turn into a talk about gender issues? Yeah, ZUN is unlikely to incorporate them into his setting. This in no way changes the fact that he took a male historical figure, turned him into a girl, and gave her a backstory that involves magical transformation.
I'm not sure what we're arguing about then. I don't have any objection to the idea, I was just pointing out there are multiple options.

>>11985204
We only know the name and that Kagerou met Wakasagihime through it. It hasn't been mentioned again.

>>11985717
Rumia can create a bubble of darkness around herself, which she uses to shield herself from sunlight. She can't see through it, meaning she tends to bump into trees. The thing in her hair is an amulet she cannot touch. That's about it; she's a really minor character.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Rumia

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985745
She's also too lazy to attack humans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985717
>What's the story on Rumia?
There isn't much of a canon story to tell. She's a weak(ish) yokai that wanders about Gensokyo with no aims, goals, or apparent cares. She attacks humans that have the misfortune to encounter her, but she can't be bothered to actively hunt humans. She uses her powers mostly to shield herself from the sun, which she finds insufferable. It's possible that she associates with Wriggle, Mystia, and Cirno. Regrettably, ZUN seems to have largely abandoned her.

>How exactly does her power work?
Her sphere of darkness works to either extinguish or "suppress" all forms of light. Apparently, even artificial sources of light (such as candles or flashlights) cannot be seen within it. Most drawings of this sphere depict it as having a diameter of roughly 4-5 feet. Rumia's darkness ability is powerful enough that she cannot see from within the sphere, but not powerful enough that everything within the sphere is pitch black - some light can still break through her powers. If needed, she is able to let in more light than she finds comfortable, as she had to do in order to read Aya's article about her. Her darkness ability does not work on the night of the full moon.

It should be noted that since her sphere casts no shadow, photons still pass through the sphere. One could guess that light is "suppressed" by Rumia's ability while it passes through the sphere.

>What's her personality?
She has few cares and is content to wander freely. She recognizes that her existence as a yokai is paired with a duty to attack humans, but she doesn't actively hunt them or bear humanity any particular ill-will.

Either she has the mentality of a young child or an enlightened sage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985801
If she doesn't hunt humans why does she bother moving around? Wouldn't it be easier not to and not risk bumping into things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985832
Probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985801
>since her sphere casts no shadow, photons still pass through the sphere

But if photons pass through the sphere, then a shadow of Rumia should appear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985864

[Anonymous No.]

Is it ever mentioned how and why rin and okuu became satori's pets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985592
But what is old fashioned about Futo, if we're talking about the body?

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11985871
Animals tend to love satori (the species) in general, since they can fully understand them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985888
Yeah. But since Okuu and Orin have human forms anyone can understand them.

[Anonymous No.]

whch 2hu wld u fck

[Anonymous No.]

Something about stuff from last thread: It was generally agreed that a /v/ and /jp/ Youkai would exist and act as stereotypes of their boards, would that mean that other Youkai would come into to existance to personify extreme beliefs, like a liberal or conservative youkai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11984270
>>11984800
Are you just reading translations or what? All instances of "prince" come from 太子, which is just her name/title. It has zero gender implication besides how the audience is going to consider it, which as I said, is the whole point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985960
<pol>
Wait, if youkais are born from fears...

Wouldn't that mean that Obongo-bongo-bongo-i-don't-wanna-leave-the-Congo is a socialism youkai born from american's fear and loathing of communism?
</pol>

Maybe, but a youkai is more of a supernatural explanation given form, as a example: Yamabikos were the explanation for echoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985939
They couldn't always talk. They still can't, in their animal forms.

I can't remember, but I think it says somewhere that Satori's ability to communicate with them helps them become more powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985832
She answered that question in her BAiJR interview:
>I bump into trees all the time, but that just goes to show what darkness is all about.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Rumia

>>11985864
...fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985885
Her diminutive height, for one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985965
Still, can someone get a title "Prince" even if she's a woman during that era? That's the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

i don't know anything about touhou except those shitty Ikagura type games. can you teach me more?

[Anonymous No.]

I've been meaning to try 2hu for quite a while.
What's a good point to start ? The first game ?
Where can I find it ? Is there an english translation ?

Thanks Anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987244
Play EoSD or PCB. They are the first two games in the modern series. PCB is easier, as EoSD lacks one feature of the games that take place afterwards: being able to see your hitbox while using shift.

Get the games here: http://moriyashrine.weebly.com/official-touhou-games.html

You can play the five games before EoSD if you want, but the newer games retcon them in some small cases of plot (Yuuka's character, mostly), they require an annoying to configure emulator, and are not as refined as the other games, not to mention that the first game isn't a danmaku game.

[Anonymous No.]

what is this faggot shit? is this ironic? it reads like its straight from the crunchy roll/my anime list forums.

every time i decide to check /jp/ it hits a new low... btw op needs piccolo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,1
Getting in warosu before clicking "view ghost mode" is enough for me. They seriously have chained gif threads and recommendation threads for the last comiket.

To lurk means to be elitist. To be elitist is to be mean. And if you are mean, it means you're not happy in this place. If you aren't happy in this place, it means you're the one who has to leave.

Why are yu still here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,1
It's not really news that /jp/'s touhou community is made up of 16 year olds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,3
If you seriously believe /jp/'s radius of retardation is limited to touhou, you must be one of the tards shitting up /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,1
It's the new way to insert people from other boards on our magnificent board :-DDDDD Don't know your 2hu shit? Not a problem, we can teach you!! Cirno is a baka >.<

[Anonymous No.]

We're all waiting for you in /ota/!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,6
Yeah.... I can't wait to literally jerk off on laggy hentai streams with 30 years old gay virgin tripfags.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,7
>laggy

So it's not just me who found it laggy as HELL?

[Anonymous No.]

I was initially skeptical of this thread, but I just can't dislike something that pisses off the warosu turds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,9
Looks like your ironing has reached critical mass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987529,7
>Trevvie
I thought you said that you wouldn't post on the w anymore? loool

[Anonymous No.]

not one good /jp/ thread

you'd think people would get bored of /c/ imagedumps, idolshit and /vg/ tier generals eventually ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11987087
太子 doesn't literally mean Prince, and isn't even commonly used to mean a prince. It's more like an honorific than an actual term and does not imply any specific gender. Shotoku was just historically male, so people say "prince" rather than "princess" or whatever else. Goddamn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11961929
What language do the 2hu speak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988511
Japanese, in Imperishable Night they mention it.

[Anonymous No.]

When will Touhou 14 come out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988635
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Dealing_Character

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11988511
They live in Japan; they speak Japanese. Remilia has been shown using English; presumably some of the other SDM residents speak it as well. Meiling and Seiga almost certainly speak Chinese. The tengu had their own language at one point, but it's long-dead and may have been just a form of writing. Kosuzu reads every language but cannot speak them. Some Lunarians have names that impure people can't pronounce, but that probably doesn't count.

Miko, Futo and Tojiko are likely to know some amount of Chinese, both for diplomatic and Taoist reasons; Tenshi and Kasen likewise wouldn't be much of a stretch. I wouldn't be surprised if Yukari could speak English (maybe Chinese as well), considering that she was able to recruit the hobgoblins and that Maribel is ambiguously foreign. If Alice's song title of "Dollmaker of Bucharesti" is literal then she probably speaks Romanian... and English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988922
Would Remilia be capable of speaking and understanding other western languages like French, German, Russian, Romanian, etc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988929
Considering the name Remilia and Flandre are french "names" and Flandre is clearly a reference to Flanders, it wouldn't be a big stretch to assume they know french, but that's about all we can say.

I would hazard to say they might know dutch or other languages in that region (Flanders).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989048
Isn't Flandre a mistranslation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988929
They might even know bits and pieces of latin, given that it was a regular language of instruction for the children of nobility and the Catholic Church. Many scholars also printed books in Latin, either to produce a work that could be widely read and understood by other scholars, or to show off how smart and learned they were.

I can see Remilia mangling Cato in fits of hubris as Flan rolls her eyes and tunes her sister's bullshit out. Very cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989107
Remilia and Flandre were born during the last parts of the black death plague. Academia dropped considerably during those decades, and most of the learned people, priests and doctors, died during that time.

Something tells me that education was not readily available before they were turned into vampires. *If* they were nobility at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989091
Not exactly. It was a guess by the original translators. フランドール has never had an official english spelling, and it's not clear what it refers to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989116
>*If* they were nobility at all.
#shotsfired

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989134
Why don't just use Jap pronounciation, Frandoll? That could be what ZUN intended or someone should really ask him if he ever come again to western country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989107
Ah, the famous vampiric... lower canine????????

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone ever come to any significant conclusions/guesses as to how Vampires "work" in the setting?

Nothing seems to point towards/against them either being normal supernatural creatures like Oni or Tengu, or for them being a human-turned-creature inflicted with a curse or disease.

I just can't seem to remember if there was some minor tidbit hinting one way or the other.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the pink Chun Li girl with the bandages? I know she's from one of the LNs but what's her deal man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989276
They could be just born from belief of vampire like most youkai did

[Anonymous No.]

What is the deal with the Remilia charisma thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989277
She's Sagat big sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989257
They could have e-mailed ZUN in the first place. He used to answer fan questions anyway. Now, I think it's irrelevant except for curiosity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989276
The only solution is to read every single official text again and look !

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989281

Only problem is that's probably the single most boring possible route to take, considering the huge swaths of myth and legend Vampires have in western cultures.

>>11989282

I think part of it has to do with the "charisma of the highest class" line from PMiSS, and the way she tries so hard impress other characters with the way she talks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989285
This is important.
How could you get off from the fact that you probably call a wrong name all this time?

What should be put in the translation is how ZUN himself pronounce it and someone should ask him directly.

Same with Huziwara no Mokou, Syo Toramaru, Sanae Kotiya, etc. Are those what ZUN intended and how he himself pronounce them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989294
It's just, her name is Flandre about a million places now, even the Japanese use it (or a mistake like Frandre). I would like to know if he had some other name in mind. If not then Flandre isn't too bad. I just think it's too late to change.

The others like Kotiya are from ZUN using a more strict romanization system. The pronunciation isn't how it looks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989294
They're pronounced ふじわら, しょう, and こちや, as intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989293
>Only problem is that's probably the single most boring possible route to take
This is how Touhou operates. It isn't boring, it's consistent and lovely.

Not the same guy, but what "born" means can vary. Even if it's accepted that a youkai comes into existence in some way, how they do so can depend on how people think it happens. They could just pop into existence, but those sorts of details aren't usually... detailed. But say, tsukumogami we've seen turning from ordinary objects into objects that move (and somehow, they can later take on a humanoid form). The kutsutsura, trying to become a full youkai, looked like a jaggy shadow creature, that is, not-quite-well-defined yet.

But does it happen this way because that's "just how it happens" in the Touhouverse, or is it because that's how the population from within the Touhouverse believes it happens? The intention is to be the latter, and I think this really deepens the concept of youkai in Touhou.

For vampires in particular, we already know that humans bitten by vampires turn into zombies of sorts then disintegrate, just as some japanese vampires seem to work (cough JoJo). They still might be able to reproduce by sucking blood, but it could easily be anything else. The fact that we know they age is important too.

>>11989294
>Same with Huziwara no Mokou, Syo[u] Toramaru, Sanae Kotiya, etc
Those are all just Kunrei-shiki romanization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989418
Uh, by "we know they age" I really meant that they have a defined year of birth, so it can be assumed that they are physically born or created or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

how 2 find anime (a newfags guide =] ):
goto anidb (its tihs crazy website that lists ALL ANIME EVAR)
then type in what anime ur looking 4
click and scroll down
there is list of all groups what put subtitles (groups) on it
go to teihr website and theyll have a link or a torrent or an irc (some hacker thing sometimes called xdcc stay away from it its probs a virus)

hope tihs helped =]

[Ajuu-kun 8KaGoo1UfM No.]

how 2 find anime (a newfags guide =] ):
goto anidb (its tihs crazy website that lists ALL ANIME EVAR)
then type in what anime ur looking 4
click and scroll down
there is list of all groups what put subtitles (groups) on it
go to teihr website and theyll have a link or a torrent or an irc (some hacker thing sometimes called xdcc stay away from it its probs a virus)

hope tihs helped =]

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the smallest Touhou? Suika?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11985960
Probably, but since they can't manifest a proper identity they will die the moment they are born

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989531
Shinmyoumaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989531
>>11989531
She obtained "norma"l height by using her mallet which is able to grant an inchling a wish.

After its power was depleted she went back to the usual inchling height, but she intends to go back to being normal-sized once the mallet is recharged

[Anonymous No.]

Who wins; answer this tōhō expert!

I asked /k/ and they got mad at me...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990373
Fairies don't really die so Cirno wins.

[Anonymous No.]

What's likely to be below Kisume's 'head' in that bucket of hers? Heads, her body, other bodies?

[Anonymous No.]

How long would it take for an autist to look at every single Touhou image, read every single translated or untranslated Touhou doujinshi uploaded online, and watch every single Touhou-related video that has been uploaded online?

Rough estimate? Has anybody here been obsessive enough to read every single doujinshi on Gensokyo/Exhentai/Danbooru(Just for 4koma)/Dynastyscans and look at every single image on Gelbooru/Danbooru?

Maybe even take the extra step and beat all the canon games on the hardest difficulty then play all of the fanon games too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990373
Fairies don't die, and Cirno could just cover the entire arena in danmaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990429
No idea, but keep in mind that even if you were to do that you would be missing out on a lot of things since there's tons of stuff never being uploaded

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990429
Step one: Download everything with a touhou tag on danbooru, gelbooru, pixiv, deviantart, google image search, youtube, niconico, and other various image and video hosting sites.
Archive every page with a touhou tag on various fanfiction site, and archive all the threads on www.touhou-project.com

Torrent each lossless collection of music.

Step two: pay off the debt from buying dozens of TB drives.

Step three: Spend years clicking the next button on your screen.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11990373
Depends on your conditions of victory, and whether the marines have to follow the spellcard rules.

If it's a real battle then they could kill Cirno pretty easily. Even if Cirno turned out to be really strong and resistant to nonmagical damage - which most fairies aren't - the marines are well-trained and could probably come up with something that worked (sniping, attacking from multiple directions, luring her into a forest to provide cover, smoke grenades, etc.). However, Cirno would just keep respawning until the marines die of old age. Double however, after dying a few times she'd likely get bored and surrender.

>>11990419
She has a normal-looking body and I'm not sure how much else she could fit in there. So she probably doesn't carry around a lot of severed heads at once, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Which Touhou have the biggest canon tits?
Top 10 in order

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990499
Okay!

The Marine's objective is to seize and hold the northernmost tip of Misty Lake, for unknown reasons, perhaps as a beachhead for a larger force to invade Gensokyo. Their victory conditions are keeping the area secure from from any youkai, hostile or not for one hour.

Their squad is composed of 3 fireteams of 4 men, each with 1 M203 grenade launcher and M249 SAW(beltfed automatic weapon, high capability) at their disposal in addition to standard rifles, (M16A4).

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usmc/platoon.htm more details.

They magically appear through the portal 1 kilometer west of the lake and do not have any support such as air, armor or other organic elements such as sniper teams.

The marines are following real world rules, shooting to kill with real bullets.

Cirno has no knowledge of the marines capabilities and would assume at first they are harmless humans who passed through the magical border.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990544
>perhaps as a beachhead for a larger force to invade Gensokyo.
They'll get Yukaried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990544
america always wins

[Anonymous No.]

>>11989853
>grant an inchling a wish
>an inchling
Do you think an ogre like Suika could use the mallet as well?
After all, the mallet did belong to the ogres first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990645
While that should be true this would also mean that Seija should be able to use the mallet I think, since her race is something like a Oni subrace.

But instead she had to lie to Shinmyoumaru so that she would use it to realize Seijas plans

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990663
Maybe you have to be an Oni, being a subrace of Oni doesn't cut it.
We'll never know, unless we get some Shinmyoumaru and Suika interaction, or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990690
Amanojaku are explicitly not Oni, regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

what the fuck is Touhou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990778

[Anonymous No.]

If Reimu is supposed to exterminate Youkai, why doesn't she become a scientist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11990905
Because she's tsundere for youkai

[Anonymous No.]

>>11988484
It's closer in meaning to the Latin root, Princeps, "the chief, most distinguished, ruler", or the classical usage of Prince as meaning the sovereign of a territory rather than the more contemporary view of Prince du Sang ("Prince of the blood") that media has now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11991682
That's a pretty apt comparison. Of course, the historical Prince Shotoku was considered an actual "prince" in that sense too, being the son of Emperor Yomei. But the meaning of the term, and why it's used as a title, is closer to what you're saying.

Anyway if it bears reiterating again, we call 聖徳太子 "Prince Shotoku" because he was historically considered a male, not because 太子 implies male. Could easily be Princess Shotoku. But what's being played on by ZUN is the audience's expectation that 聖徳太子 is a male figure. During the development of TD, it was noted that his very existence is being called into question by some historians. If this is the case, how do we know their history was being recorded accurately? How do we know they aren't fictitious? Well, we don't. Miko shows that in the Touhouverse she wasn't fictitious, but instead how she was recorded in history was false. As the true 聖徳太子was forgotten by the world, she ended up in Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

Which endings of which games do we know are canon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995367
All of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995376
But that would mean that PoFV was a clusterfuck

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

Yeah, I gotta question. What with the comparaison between the Lunarian folks from the Lunar Capital (exiled please go) and these wacky Nazis?
And what with the retarded hate toward these Lunarians anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995620
Shitty mary sues that cheated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995620
Oh my god please end yourself.

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

>>11995632
Wow, thank you for making a clear answer. I'm glad you decided to sacrifice five minutes of your life to type these six words explaining the whole hate toward these characters instead of acting like an idiot.
Oh, wait...

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question. I often saw Kokoro wearing that mask. What does it means? Surprise? Being embarassed? Being a Jew?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995649
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyottoko

It's the happy/funny mask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995654
Oh, okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995654
Didn't she have an extra mask for being happy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995670
Yeah, that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995654
Where can I get masks like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995717
Ebay. Or just make one yourself out of paper-mache.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995728
>paper-mache
Google, here I come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962599
>>11962726
>>11963122

According to one anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11961929
I'm certain this is the last type of question you want to be asked, but I'm particularly interested in your answer given that you seem to be especially knowledgeable about the subject.

There is a lot of content even just on the wiki so I'm experiencing near culture shock trying to find a good place to start. How do I into Touhou? Is there a /jp/ sanctioned guide/recommended materials?

I was recommended to start with Imperishable Night but I'm interested in hearing what else might aid my introduction the series, by this I mean are there any doujins, manga etc that would be great for a beginner looking for introduction to Gensokyo?

Thanks for any serious answers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995376
Kind of. It's safe to assume that the endings don't give any false information, but at the same time it's very unlikely that every character went out and solved the incident. We know that Reimu was the canon protagonist of EoSD and PCB, and apparently Zun has stated that Marisa B is the canon protagonist of UFO. Aside from that, there isn't really much to go off of.

>>11995381
Ironically, all of PoFV's endings are canon, if the Extra is anything to go off of. It's probably like SWR, where everything fits into a timeline.

[Anonymous No.]

That is the most disgusting OP I have ever seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995835
Were you around for the Akyuu radio thread that was literally roleplaying?

[Anonymous No.]

Its possible to buy a fumo from Amiami, From mexico?.

What is better for playing touhou?, small screen or big screen?, 4:3 or 16:9?

How do you manage to play touhou after a fapstreak, whiouth sleeping for some days or just sleeping late or not eating well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11995833
There is always the elder scrolls approach. Aka, fuck you every ending is cannon, and everything happens at the same time independently yet all ending in a single condensed point.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11995760
Gameplay-wise, Imperishable Night is generally regarded as having one of the easier Easy modes, though I found the fighting games easier myself. Just be sure to read the manual first, because there can be some odd mechanics.
You can mostly ignore the PC-98 games for now. Not because they're bad, but they're old, different, harder to get running, and a lot of their material is no longer canon.

Story-wise it's best to look at things in chronological order. The artbooks have profiles on previously introduced characters, excepting Grimoire of Marisa (which focuses more on their spellcards) and Seasonal Dream Vision, though they're written in-universe so they sometimes get details wrong. Using doujins to figure things out is a bad idea - you won't be able to tell when the writer is making things up, and the overall tone is usually very different from canon stuff (ZUN's writing style is... unique >>11990530).

[Anonymous No.]

Considering Yukari spirits away people to feed yokai, why is Reimu and other humans so passive about it? Do nobody realize people are dissapearing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11997116

It's all people from the outside world. They can't touch people inside Gensokyo (without a danmaku fight) without risking destruction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11997116
She kidnaps outside world's humans as food resource, not the human village ones.
ZUN said somewhere whenever a human here disappeared/died/whatever in mysterious ways it could be youkai's work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11997127
But she is specifically saying that the yokai watch over humans in the human village to check if they are causing trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11997116
Who cares about outside world humans?
Also, it only happens to people who ran away from home, plan suicide, criminals and generally people who won't be missed like you and me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11997130
Yes, in a sense the human village is something like a zoo, and Yukari wants to make sure that the animals don't unite and break out

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11997130
She's worried about people like "Mr. A" gaining too much influence: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Keine

[Anonymous No.]

2hu fkc u whch
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11996988
That's close to what I assume.
Only one girl went out, but all ending are more or less canon.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's the strongest?
Also, if Touhou is so damn popular why is there no anime for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998203
>Who's the strongest?
Nobody knows for sure, all the fights happening in touhou are just fun and play

>Also, if Touhou is so damn popular why is there no anime for it?
There are fanmade animes, however if you are looking for a official anime you will never get it simply because ZUN doesn't wants to

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998214
Now which reasoning is the truth? Cause i heard many reasons on why there's no Touhou official Anime till now.

>-No official Touhou Anime because ZUN didn't have time
>-No official Touhou Anime because ZUN knows that the creative process of the fandom will die because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998203
I'm pretty certain it was said somewhere that ZUN doesn't want an anime because he doesn't want it to overshadow the original game series. He doesn't want people to get confused thinking the anime came first before the games and other shit like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998269
>>11998267
I'm pretty happy about this, the thought of hearing the voices of the characters,which then become forever canon, is so weird to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998277
I'll accept an anime only if all the characters get the yukkuri voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998267
The second one is correct. That, and Zun doesn't want the series to stray from its video game roots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998280
>I'll accept an anime only if all the characters get the yukkuri voice.
Yes. A million times yes.

[Anonymous No.]

There was this one Touhou remix of "The Centennial Festival for Magical Girls" with a piano rendition of "U.N. Owen was her" right in the middle of it. I had it but I accidentally deleted it years ago. The title is in Japanese so I couldn't find it again. Does anyone here know what it's called or have a download for it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998277
Also, sometimes character voices in anime are quite annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998267
>>11998293
Considering the most popular fanmade one consist of fanservice and pandering. (Lol at Marisa giving a shit about Flandre/rewriting the plot of EoSD/making Meiling, Cirno, and Rumia and others into 'joke characters.' It's not hard to see what they're trying to push when we get several minute long 'foreshadowing' in the hot springs with the focus on tits. Fuck fake porn/ecchi.)

ZUNs concerns are quite valid. Marisa does not give a single shit about Flandre and there's proof backing that up. Perfect Memento quote.

>"Sometimes when I sneak into the Scarlet Devil Mansion like I own it, I run into the little sister. I had to slip by without drawin' her attention, but after goin' through all that to get into the place, I was hopin' I wouldn't run into her." (Marisa Kirisame)
>What a terribly selfish report.

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>>11998390
>with the focus on tits.
and ass, don't forget the ass.

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>>11995833
>Zun has stated that Marisa B is the canon protagonist of UFO
This was just people making bad inferences from ZUN actually saying that Marisa B's ending is the most "important" because it leads into the Extra stage. Really the same is true here, where the events of every ending in UFO are considered canon. The people saying Marisa B solved the incident simply don't understand that's how it works.

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>>11998390
Fan anime is irrelevant to what ZUN could make though. In a way it's no different from fan doujinshi except for the effort needed. I don't hold them to any higher standard. Most of the doujinshi is just yuri/tits/padwww too.

That said I think any attempt by ZUN would be shit too. It's the sort of thing you would need your own studio for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998390
Inb4 someone starts saying that PMiSS isn't relevant because Akyuu never appeared in any game or something like that.

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

>>11998363
Just "sometimes"?

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN thinks doujin creators shouldn't care what fans want. And most of fans are secondary anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998592
You're going full hipster.

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>>11998620
Enjoy your EOSYS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998642
Not that guy but I like IOSYS's original works more than their Touhou-themed ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998588
Okay, most of 'em

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

>>11998749

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>>11998757
heh

I don't want to hear any child characters (fairies, Rumia, Scarlet sisters, etc) to sound like any annoying lolis in anime

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>>11998766
Not to mention all underage characters are dubbed by an adult talking in a falsetto voice.

If I wanted to hear something like that, I would be listening to my gay neighbour's screams when he's removing the hair from his legs with duct tape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11998390
This pisses me off a lot. The fan anime rewrites Flandre so hard it's not funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11962726
Being a mangaka under ZUN must feel like being a scientist in the Manhattan Project. That's all so fucking nebulous.

[Anonymous No.]

Something is confusing about Gensokyo. How did a food not native to their land manage to get into there anyway? Like corn.

Also in Hopeless Masquerade's Human Village, everyone was drinking beer. I thought when Beer arrives to Gensokyo, the barrier is up and every sort of knowledge from the outside world is gone.

[Anonymous No.]

Something is confusing about Gensokyo. How did a food not native to their land manage to get into there anyway? Like corn.

Also in Hopeless Masquerade, On the human village, everyone was drinking beer. I thought when Beer arrives to Japan, the barrier is up and every sort of new knowledge from the outside world will never reach Gensokyo.

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>>11998267
Nobody'll ever make Touhou anime for business reasons. ZUN wants full copyright and creative control and has basically no interest, financial or otherwise, in making an anime, since the games are already as popular as they possibly could. Whoever wishes to produce it would need to cover all the costs himself, pay ZUN's royalties and watch him reap all the profits from related merchandise, while hoping the disk sales are enough to cover the investment. They would be enough, but it's still better business to promote something you have rights to and hope it takes off.

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>>11998842
Gensokyo has a one-way contact with the outside world, they're aware what's happening there (even if they can't always interpret it correctly). And Japan knew beer before the barrier went up anyway.

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Why are people drawing Yukari borders with ribbons?

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>>11998910
Because they at least bother to look at the art in the games once.

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>>11998280
Yes, and it's animated with MMD.

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>>11998882
My favourite examples of this how soccer is becoming popular in Gensokyo and the fact that Marisa knows about Phoenix downs from the Final Fantasy series.

It's so silly and I'm curious how this happened

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>>11999125
>Marisa knows about Phoenix downs from the Final Fantasy series

What

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>>11999125
>My favourite examples of this how soccer is becoming popular in Gensokyo

I've read about it but I forgot, what was that about?

>Marisa knows about Phoenix downs from the Final Fantasy series.

What

[Anonymous No.]

>>11999143
>>11999146
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Outsider
>Both the humans and youkai of Gensokyo are easily influenced by the outside world, and when they learn something new from an outsider, that will become popular for a while (*1).

>1: Lately, a sport called "soccer" has become popular. In this manner, Gensokyo is halfway infected with the outside world.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Grimoire_of_Marisa/Fujiwara_no_Mokou%27s_Spell_Cards#

>Notes: A resurrection elixir used a lot in the outside world, I hear.

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>>11999149
Thanks, I should care about the notes more.

Also does someone who can read moon know if there are precious info about the untraslated ZUN e-mails/speeches etc? I'm not asking a translation, I just want to know if there's something valuable.

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>>11998269
I've always thought that's a pretty weak excuse and not the real reason he doesn't want one. It can easily by solved by having the message "Based on the Touhou Project games" or something like that at the start of every episode.

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>>11999222
Maybe he just thinks that anime is shit and that everything that involves modern anime gets ruined

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>>11999227
...come to think of it, any game based animes that did well?

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>>11999227
It's his series and he can say no to an anime for any reason he wants, I just think "They won't know about my games!" is a pretty hollow one.

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>>11999232
Yeah, but knowing how much of a nice guy he is he wouldn't outright say that he finds anime shitty, hence my comment. Or maybe he just doesn't wants to step into the anime industry, knowing how much greed there is involved.

I'm just speculating under the premise that you are right at this point

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11999222
How's this then?

ZUN doesn't care a lot about money or mass appeal, he just wants to do his own thing. He can be extremely particular when it comes to the manga, over the oddest things (e.g. he'll insist on Alice and Momiji being in a crowd shot but never described Toyohime's weapons). He wouldn't have that much control over an anime so it would likely feel out-of-tone, assuming it doesn't miss the point entirely (e.g. making Yukari a villain who wants to destroy Gensokyo). Except because anime reach a wider audience, you'd end up with tons of casual fans who consider it the "real" Touhou and complain at ZUN for "not doing Touhou right". With doujins at least people are more likely to check out the original rather than taking it as the final word on the topic.

There was an adaptation of The Lord of the Rings in the works at some point where Aragorn used the Ring to kill Sauron, and the hobbits barely did anything. Imagine if this had gone ahead, and Tolkien had hordes of fans lining up to tell him how much they loved his message of "absolute power is awesome, midgets should stand aside to let a real man handle their problems".

Also ZUN is a big supporter of doujin culture, so he doesn't like going commercial more than he has to.

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>>11999354
>so he doesn't like going commercial more than he has to.
During AWA's Q&A ZUN said that it would be good to have his games on steam, but he complained that it's a complicated process. I believe he is just too lazy to start making money. ZUN is completely happy with his current life style of "drink beer, code games, fuck 2hus".

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>>11999373
i interpret his answer as a no - he don't want to put the touhous in valve's bloody hands

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>>11999381
There was another recent interview where ZUN said that he was actually interested in distributing his future games overseas.
Self-publishing it on steam is his only choice. But again he is fucking lazy piece of shit.

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>>11999402
>Self-publishing it on steam is his only choice.

There's actually a fuckton of other choices.

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>>11999402

An online scoreboard with antihacks measures would be pretty cool to have. At least that'ss a good thing Valve can provide to touhou besides the wider exposure to the public.

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>>11999402
He said that official translations are a problem, even if it were to come to steam, Valve would have no hands on it. ZUN would only use it to distribute it

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>>11999402
Do you have a source for that?

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>>11999402
>But again he is fucking lazy piece of shit

Well yeah, but why would he put effort into it into the first place?
He only puts it into consideration to do the western fans a favour

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11998390
While Fantasy Kaleidoscope did rewrite the plot of EoSD a bit, the original story is acknowledged as the publicly known version, with Marisa's tale being the "real" version.
Marisa's reaction to Flandre doesn't contradict anything because this is the first time they've met, and it's in a drastically different situation to her later appearances - here Marisa is trying to help out a scared girl who's in trouble, while in the PMiSS article Flandre is just someone bored and dangerous; heck, maybe Marisa tries to avoid her because she got too clingy. Plus the SDM residents are already established in the video as having changed and become more laid-back as they integrated into Gensokyo.
As for the first three bosses being treated as jokes... Rumia flies into trees all day. Marisa takes Cirno so unseriously that she fights her with a "Master Spark" that's just a flashlight. Meiling's story mode in Hisoutensoku was about her falling asleep and fighting an evil catfish. Their joke status is canon.

Honestly the weirdest thing was when Sanae showed up at the end of the PCB plot.

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>>11999482
>the original story is acknowledged as the publicly known version

What, really? I don't recall that, maybe I was too busy cringing to notice.

This is actually even worse than just making up a new story, though. It's like they still have pretenses of following the canon, ridiculous.

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>>11999482
>Their joke status is canon.
Which is why Shikieiki says Cirno is far more powerful than she should be.

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>>11999482
>While Fantasy Kaleidoscope did rewrite the plot of EoSD a bit, the original story is acknowledged as the publicly known version, with Marisa's tale being the "real" version.
"A bit"? The phrase "taking creative liberties" fits pretty well.
Unfortunately according to "fans" who don't know anything about ZUNs interpretation of his own series, then yes, this becomes the "REAL" version. You could chalk up the inaccuracies in it as part of the fact this is all being told as a story from the characters perspectives, but then why was Extra Stages story completely destroyed/rewritten on the spot? It also seems to be tying into Reimus side of the story...somehow.

>Marisa's reaction to Flandre doesn't contradict anything because this is the first time they've met,
Extra Stage in more detail: Remilia going to the Shrine and keeping Flandre behind when she wants to go too, Flandre tries to leave, Patchouli makes it rain to stop Flandre from leaving, she then tries to stop the protagonists. THEN Flandre shows up and meets the protagonists. (By the way, perfectly wasted opportunity for Marisa to not use the "I'm Reimu Hakurei, a shrine maiden." line.) What the anime is doing has pretty much destroyed the existence of the Extra stage seeing as it takes place after the brunt of the incident is resolved when Remilia is at the shrine.
Did anyone else find it seemed completely out of character for Marisa to put a halt to "borrowing" when the library was completely unguarded with a defeated Patchouli and helping Flandre? Like she received a "I'm acting 10 times more noble than I normally act" upgrade for that specific scene? If so, yes, it does fit the story of "Marisa is telling a story" quite nicely by telling a story that portrays herself in a more positive light...unless she isn't and this is an actual flashback, we'll have to wait and see on that point.

>Too long, gotta make another post.

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>>11999482
>>11999673
>while in the PMiSS article Flandre is just someone bored and dangerous
That's an entirely different can of worms, but I'll ignore that as that isn't directly related to this discussion and involves far too much theorizing and headcanon on my part.

>heck, maybe Marisa tries to avoid her because she got too clingy.
Complete theory. What we know is she does avoid her. If you want to talk theories, it's much more likely because it's out of convenience to herself and Marisas normal level of canon selfishness, see picture related.
"Too clingy", yeah, in shipping.

Now for some half assed predictions on my part: "Flandre futilely attacks her sister then loses, then Marisa and Reimu beat up Remilia to show her the error of her ways and complete the pandering with a "YOU SHOULD TAKE BETTER CARE OF YOUR SISTER" friendship speech.
GG, next story. More group shots and naked hot spring scenes to come.

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>>11999482
>>11999673
>>11999687
>As for the first three bosses being treated as jokes... Rumia flies into trees all day. Marisa takes Cirno so unseriously that she fights her with a "Master Spark" that's just a flashlight. Meiling's story mode in Hisoutensoku was about her falling asleep and fighting an evil catfish. Their joke status is canon.
Going from a dimwitted foe with a funny trait to useless fodder that takes no effort to fight is flanderization. Pretty sure the games doesn't allow us to skip past the first few bosses. While I'm aware that pacing is a big part of anime, PCB entailed that it skipped the fight scenes, this time there was no fight because their foes were reduced to the level of a regular fairy and easily disposed of.

>Honestly the weirdest thing was when Sanae showed up at the end of the PCB plot.
Don't quote me on this but I believe that's the "Sanae is Mima in disguise" theory. I don't pay attention to those things.

By the way, is there a list of all the future episodes?
I apologize if I'm coming off as overly aggressive, but I'm sincere in hoping that they have no real ulterior motives other than just showing a semi-tasteful retelling of the games stories.

The worst case scenario in my mind is if they're plotting something sinister involving shoving terrible OCs in after they "canonize" everything so they can pretend that they've "earned it."

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>>11999691
>Pretty sure the games doesn't allow us to skip past the first few bosses.
But they are pretty fucking easy. The jump in difficulty from Meiling to Patchouli is immense. Rumia and Cirno aren't even worth talking about.

They could have animated a few minutes of serious fight between Reimu and Cirno but they didn't in the interest of time and they're not interested in making the "definite, canon" retelling of EoSD anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to read the crappy dialogues inbetween the games or these boring manga. I just watch kamS' videos because they're actually fun to watch and interpret everything the way i want. And the answer to most questions is: "penises".
That's the way ZUN wants people to handle the plot.

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>>11999530
>This is actually even worse than just making up a new story, though. It's like they still have pretenses of following the canon, ridiculous.
I completely agree with you, and I'm glad you pointed it out because this is why this rubs me the wrong way. It isn't an uncommon tactic for fanfic and doujin writers, they bullshit an important part of the story, like say the beginning or the middle, or they just rewrite this one specific scene to make it look a certain way that they need it to, then they slide right back into canon the rest of the way after the changes they needed to make happened. It's an illusion of following the script. Doing this they can make a character go "LOL I'M EVIL NAOW FOR NO RAISIN" like >>11999354 said here:
>(e.g. making Yukari a villain who wants to destroy Gensokyo).
The anime does a similar thing, replace "destroy" with "take over" and Yukari for Remilia.

The main reasons I've seen people do this is it allows them to try and push whatever it is they're selling as "legit." Usually their goal is their favorite pairing, trying to make shitty OCs popular, or just following up on what everyone else is already doing in a grander way for more attention/views on their pixiv or whatever the fuck they're doing this on.
It becomes self-gratifying/fellating shit.
Basically I'm extremely curious on what the anime creators endgame for this is.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11999627
For a fairy, yes; she's the only fairy ever fought as a boss (excluding bosses Cirno fought herself). This still places her fairly low on the totem pole.
Even though Cirno eventually forces Marisa to (sort of) acknowledge her strength in Fairy Wars, Cirno is still the one who gets the "beaten up" portrait after their fight.

>>11999673
>>11999687
>What the anime is doing has pretty much destroyed the existence of the Extra stage seeing as it takes place after the brunt of the incident is resolved when Remilia is at the shrine.
Destroying the Extra stage is part of the premise though, what with being the "untold true story" of EoSD. Leaving it in would also be terrible for pacing. I.e. this change wasn't made out of ignorance, it was just to fit the medium.

>Did anyone else find it seemed completely out of character for Marisa to put a halt to "borrowing" when the library was completely unguarded with a defeated Patchouli and helping Flandre? Like she received a "I'm acting 10 times more noble than I normally act" upgrade for that specific scene?
She was saving that for later; even in the game she wants to solve the incident first. I mean, she's hardly going to fight with her arms full, right?

>Complete theory.
Well, yes, it was just a suggestion. My point was that you can excuse the SDM cast acting a little out of character in that part because it's set in the past and they haven't settled in yet. Now if Marisa was shown still being close to Flandre in the present, that would be grounds for complaint.

>While I'm aware that pacing is a big part of anime, PCB entailed that it skipped the fight scenes, this time there was no fight because their foes were reduced to the level of a regular fairy and easily disposed of.
Letty and Alice are also portrayed far more seriously in canon. Chen had that article where she couldn't get other cats to follow her orders, but that's nowhere near as bad as Meiling's crayon-drawing fight.

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>>11999739
>I completely agree with you, and I'm glad you pointed it out because this is why this rubs me the wrong way. It isn't an uncommon tactic for fanfic and doujin writers, they bullshit an important part of the story, like say the beginning or the middle, or they just rewrite this one specific scene to make it look a certain way that they need it to, then they slide right back into canon the rest of the way after the changes they needed to make happened. It's an illusion of following the script.
They make shit up but other shit? Isn't that obvious? It's fucking doujinshi, people. There's one where PCB happens "as normal" up until the heroines reach the netherworld and the incident is resolved through mahjong. That's just slightly not canon - but who fucking cares?

>It becomes self-gratifying/fellating shit.
The entirety of the Touhou secondary scene is self-gratifying bullshit.

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>>11999739
>I completely agree with you, and I'm glad you pointed it out because this is why this rubs me the wrong way. It isn't an uncommon tactic for fanfic and doujin writers, they bullshit an important part of the story, like say the beginning or the middle, or they just rewrite this one specific scene to make it look a certain way that they need it to, then they slide right back into canon the rest of the way after the changes they needed to make happened. It's an illusion of following the script.
They make some shit up but not other shit? Isn't that obvious? It's fucking doujinshi, people. There's one where PCB happens "as normal" up until the heroines reach the netherworld and then the incident is resolved through mahjong. That's just slightly not canon - but who fucking cares?

>It becomes self-gratifying/fellating shit.
The entirety of the Touhou secondary scene is self-gratifying bullshit.

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>11999739
>The anime does a similar thing, replace "destroy" with "take over" and Yukari for Remilia.
To be fair, Remilia also said she wanted to conquer the moon. She's hammy like that.
Also she caused quite a bit of trouble when she first arrived in Gensokyo.

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>All that earlier debating over a fanime that uses gratuitous amounts of tits and ass to lure in secondaries and that at it's core is obviously rewriting the games story.
Picture related.
Why do you people feel the need to discuss whether their willful ignorance of the official story is "canon" or not?
I regret having read all of that. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, learn to enjoy both canon and fanon.

I feel I should address something obvious: It's first and foremost FAN-MADE, you shouldn't give a single solitary fuck if the entire damn world thinks its the real story or "better than the original", the simple fact is: IT ISN'T. There's always going to be secondary morons kissing fan creators asses and shitting on the original work, regardless of what logic you stab into their brain.

In my opinion the one where all their shit goes missing is the better fanime anyways. Kaleidoscope just has god-tier artists.

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>>11999765
I'm sure nobody would care about "not canon" if something as cool as a mahjong match happened.

>>11999768
Now, we don't know if it was Remilia. All the relevant article mentions is a "vampire". Could have been someone else. And that's why Flandre is now grounded.

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>>11998827
They were very clearly pushing for the shipping crowds with gluing Flandre to Marisa and Meiling.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the deal with Youmu:
Does she have any powers? Or is can she only use a sword?
What's her personality like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12000589
She's like really, really soft.

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>>12000554
At this point, it's well-established that whenever any character mentions "that" vampire, they are talking about Remilia. It's very heavily implied that there are no other vampires besides the Scarlet sisters in Gensokyo, and since a major point is that the new vampire gathered many minions, it's essentially just that very ZUN-like way of saying "it was Remilia" without actually saying it was.

Remilia later going to the moon, another place new to her, and proclaiming loudly that she's going to take it over just to have something interesting happen, is some really obvious mirroring and is sort of the icing on the cake.

[Anonymous No.]

u 2hu fck whc wld ?

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>>12000546
How come touhou fans always feel offended whenever something like this is discussed?
We were merely talking about what we like and dislike about this particular anime, you don't see as going on a personal crusade against secondaries or do you?

[Ajuu-kun !8KaGoo1UfM No.]

>>12000554
>Now, we don't know if it was Remilia. All the relevant article mentions is a "vampire". Could have been someone else.
The article goes on to say that the "unnamed vampire" caused the Scarlet Mist Incident.

>>12000589
She is half-phantom. As in, her higher soul exists outside of her body as a wispy white thing, making her essentially half-dead. This has various weird effects, like making it hard for Miko to read her. If Rinnosuke is reliable, half-youkai are also affected only half as much by things like human diseases and anti-youkai attacks.

As for her personality... "half-baked" sums it up pretty well. She's a loyal servant but she's young, doesn't have a good idea of her own limits, and has trouble thinking things through or reading into them beyond the surface level (meaning she can barely understand her own master). She's good with her sword techniques, but doesn't really get the philosophy behind them or when best to use them.

>"When I go to visit the Netherworld, she always swings those swords at me. It'd be nice if she'd actually check who was coming." (Reimu)
>"She comes shopping here a lot. It's like someone is coming to take you to the next world, and it feels pretty weird." (Anonymous)
>"I thought a dangerous, sword-wielding youkai had come, but she looks sort of powerless, and I can't help feeling sorry for her, somehow." (Anonymous)
>http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Youmu_Konpaku

[Anonymous No.]

I like this kind of thread, it makes me feel educated about Touhou lore.

Thanks to all people who contribute!!

[Anonymous No.]

Why there are so many emails, interviews, videos, etc that don't get translation yet?
Did people didn't care about the informations?
Did people only care about translating shitty yuri doujins?

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>>12001631
There are incredible amounts of information being left untranslated, simply because there are no people skilled enough or willing enough to translate them.

I actually went into the touhouwiki IRC once to ask about translations and it turned out that there is only a single person able to translate things there, and he didn't seem very motivated.

If you want a certain thing, like a doujin, translated you will have to commision it at one of the translation groups and pay them money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001449
Also she's a bit chuuni/airheaded, just read CoLA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001631
To not forget the information in there is something you won't see anywhere else, we know about some character heights and details only thanks to the few translated ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001657
CoLA is the best thing ZUN has ever written, and if you disagree you're veritably not me

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001631
The games' translation also not very good, not expected from a series with large fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001893
>>12001631
The team that translated EoSD and PCB had no clue what they were doing, and lazy programming from Zun forced them to butcher the already bad translation.

The IN team threw in random stuff that they liked (yes, that means Marisa swearing at Reimu didn't happen) and they still haven't gotten their shit together years later, and HM's translation is incomplete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001924
>HM's translation is incomplete.
The first release of the game is done. It's just not many translators kept up with the new content in the patches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11961929
is Touhou a company or an anime universe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001631
Shitty yuri doujins are easy as fuck to translate is why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12002031
Neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12000651
You seem to have overlooked the punchline. No matter, it was jocular anyway.

>>12001449
Nevertheless, the article never actually equates the perpetrators of the two incidents, no matter what the English translation's phrasing might suggest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11999429
Well I can certainly agree with this if it's a genuine concern of his.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I heard a touhou song on youtube a few years ago, then I lost the link to it and I just can't seem to find it again.

In the background you could hear it was raining, then a loli sighed and went to brush her teeth, then you could hear some sort of radio show in the background . After this the loli is half humming, half singing the lyrics of U.N Owen was her. There were no instruments to it.

It was around 3 minutes long, and the background of the video was some generic pic of Flandre.

It was so moody, I just can't seem to forget it and I feel like dying every minute I can't hear it again. If anyone knows a link to it or something I would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12002369
There are hundreds of UN Owen was Her remixes on youtube. And, if you still have the computer you were using, you could look through the internet history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12002369
Here you go anon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s9w4dBIZCc

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>>12002066
>Nevertheless, the article never actually equates the perpetrators of the two incidents, no matter what the English translation's phrasing might suggest.
Well, you have that a bit backwards. The english translation was such that some time ago it didn't suggest that the perpetrators were the same, but was changed to reflect what the original does suggest. However, because of the relatively ambiguous wording ZUN is known for, even japanese fans don't just outright say it was Remilia either, even if the implication is quite strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12002404
I know there are a lot. I formatted it many times since then so that's not an option.

>>12002791
It's a nice one but it's not what I was looking for. Thanks though.

[Anonymous No.]

For anyone who cares, here's ZUNs interview at anime weekend atlanta

http://www.wordofthenerdonline.com/zun-awa-panel-recap/

[Anonymous No.]

If Remilia and Flandre fought, how would Remilia actually stand up to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12004194
Is it a danmaku fight, are they fighting to the death, etc?

In an outright fight without danmaku, Flandre could just user her ability to destroy her immediately, but It would be different if the aim of the fight wasn't to kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12002369
>>12002404
>>12002791
Apparently after half a day of searching I found it although I remembered a few things wrong.

Here is the link if anyone cares: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4228163

[Anonymous No.]

>>12001681
Poor Youmu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12004212

Say if they were having an argument, like all sisters normally do.

What would Remilia do to stop her from beating the crap out of her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12004194
>>12004212
It appears to me that Flandre's ability is largely useless against someone who can just dissolve her body into mist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12005297
Except she could destroy the mist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12004466
Cute as HECK!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12005819
>Her method of destroying things so effortlessly involves pouring her power into the "eyes" of any material where its tension is the highest.

I don't see how could she apply this to a mist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12006058
The same way she applied it to a meteor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12005872
>disembodied head
>eating itself
>cute