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1189157 No.1189157 [Reply] [Original]

Why do Touhou fans rage about Touhou itself, when they know they can't do anything to change it? I mean. ZUN doesn't care about westerners, and he doesn't visit this board, so why do people complain when it's very clear their criticisms, legitimate or not, will fall on deaf ears? Pic unrelated.

>> No.1189174

People don't really complain about Touhou.

>> No.1189171

Because we like to complain, it's not like we're hoping for anything better anyway.

>> No.1189196

>>1189174
This.

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>>1189157

>Pic unrelated.

What? Not trying to start a Keine/Mokou thread with reverse psychology? For real?
Oh, well. Have some anyway.

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>> No.1189240

Because they're newfriends. The most vocal and annoying Western Touhou fans aren't even big fans of this genre of video game. Just take a look at /touhou/, shrinemaiden.org, or a small amount of the Anons in /jp/. You know who you are.

Even worse, there's the Western fans that stick around only for the (mostly mediocre) fanworks.

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>>1189220
Im staring too, Mokou.

>> No.1189298

>>1189240
Yeah, I know who I am. I'm in it for the IaMP and the SWR, and for the bonanza of doujin porn.

>> No.1189307

>>1189240
You know what to do.

>> No.1189309

Primary Touhou fan: One who became interested in Touhou due to it's games. A longtime fan of shmup/arcade/retro-esque games, this person likes Touhou for it's actual gameplay, music and/or art/style. Probably has an interest in secondary works, but most likely enjoys the main games and ZUN's works more so.

Secondary Touhou fan: One who became interested in Touhou due to some offshoot (dojin works, IOSYS, fanart, 4chan...). May or may not have an interest in its main genre and more likely have not really played the games; if they did play, it's only to see what the game is like and doesn't get into it (i.e. 1CCing normal or completing extra). However, probably enjoys the side games (IaMP and SWR) and may or may not enjoy the fanworks. This is also the typical "Touhoufag."

>> No.1189317

>>1189309

No one enjoys ZUN's works.

>> No.1189312

>>1189309

I like both

>> No.1189321

What if Mokou breeded with Kaguya?

>> No.1189324

>>1189309
Uh, I became interested through the games, but I'm not exactly a longtime shmup fan.

>> No.1189328

>>1189309
Count me amongst the primaries with strong leanings towards IaMP and SWR

>> No.1189329

I played Galaga in the arcades, when arcades were awesome and enjoyable for assholes only. That's how awesome and in love with Touhou-like games I am.

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>>1189321

This is what anon believes.

>> No.1189342
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This is what actually happens.

>> No.1189349

>>1189342
>>HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE.
EXPLAIN.

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>>1189321
Then she gets CAVED very very hard.

>> No.1189361

I love the games but I suck at them. I suck at games in general, so its of little concern. My favorite game as a kid was Galaga followed by Asteroids if that tells you how old I am. And yeah I sucked at those too.

>> No.1189364

>>1189329

Sure, you played Galaga, but you weren't into Gradius, R-Type, DonPachi, Thunder Force, and all the rest; that's why you think SA is hard on "normal" mode.

>> No.1189375

>I love the games but I suck at them.

Same here.

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>>1189349

Posting stuff. It's very nice meeting you.

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>> No.1189379

>>1189372
/b/ MOTHERFUCKER!

>> No.1189385

>>1189364
I, for one, enjoy all kinds of games. Been playing videogames since as long as I can remember. You don't have to be a hardcore STG fan to appreciate the touhou series.

>> No.1189437

i'm ranked 3rd in the top 10000000000000 touhou fan rank
I cannot be more proud or care more about this

>> No.1189447

>>1189437
I don't think the touhou fanbase encompasses ten trillion people.

>> No.1189448

>>1189385

Of course. I'm merely addressing the Western fans that always complain.

ZUN makes these games for fans of video games in general; that's why he throws in such a wide range of difficulty levels. He doesn't have to do this, since the average Japanese game otaku can beat these games while blindfolded on lunatic mode, but he does it anyway in order to reach a broader audience.

I would think that ZUN would want newfriends to check out other stuff, though. Many shoot-em-ups make Touhou look like crap. There's also an ocean of Japanese fanworks dedicated to all video games out there, and not just Touhou. For example, there's doujin music for every Jappo video game imaginable. Long ago, I cried tears of joy when I heard my first Castlevania doujin music remix album.

>> No.1189465

>>1189447
Aliens play touhou too and I taught my cat how to play PCB so I guess animals can too

>> No.1189469

>>1189465
Oh, good then.
Which char is your cat's favorite?

>> No.1189478

>>1189469

Chen

>> No.1189480

>>1189478
Awesome.

>> No.1189479

>>1189478
And he hates Sakuya, right?

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>>1189157
Why do anime viewers complain about anime when they can't change it? Why do moviegoers complain about movies when they can't change them? Why does anyone complain about anything they can't change?

Why do you complain about people complaining, when you know you can't do anything to change it?

>> No.1189551

>>1189545
...What am I looking at?

>> No.1189558

>>1189551
A zen "garden"

>> No.1189598

Dear OP,
This is why I now post about once a week on 4chan, but still read it for upwards of 5 hours a day.

>> No.1189757

I care about the fightan more than the shootan

I still like shooters, but I got into gaming with fighting games

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