Moon superiority thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Because my waifu is better than your waifus. Waivus. Whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

why would you live on a moon, that makes no sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>11871142
Yes

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

I APPROVE THIS THREAD.

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>>11871145
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11871145
earthworm pleb detected

[Anonymous No.]

>mooncunts
>only capable of throwing their weight around
>outsmarted by a double diversion that could have easily decimated their capital
>only moongirl capable of using her brain is easily trumped by Gensokyo's brightest
Their designs are quite lovely though.

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>>11871378
>leomodesto
Bitch please. If you're going to be a retarded cunt, at least post good pictures instead.
Not Ms. Potato.

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Moon has the best rabbits

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>>11871378
>Gensokyo
>Yukari is bound in ropes and on her knees alongside her fox
>Invasion force pacified
>YEAH WE STOLE YOUR BOOZE HAHAHAH

Even if Yuyuko did so much as sneeze on a rabbit, Gensokyo would've been wiped off the map by superior Lunar tech.

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>>11872973

Couldn't have Yuyuko just used her ability to kill every single living being in the lunar capital? It's not like they would pinpoint it to her either; they seemed perfectly fine with letting two strangers wander around.

Also, Eiren believes Gensokyo to be her home. I'm going to naturally assume Eiren is stronger than her disciples since she created the Lunar Capital and possibly quite a few of its technologies.

Not to mention; Reimu, Suwako, Kanako, the Dragon God, Shinki, Remilia, Suika, ect would all give them quite a bit of trouble.

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>>11873014
Eirin is probably the strongest around.

She's the matriarch of the Lunar society and created it in its entirety.

Magic is also the Moon's power, and Lunarian magic is known to be far more complex and powerful than Earth magic (Same goes for gods).

Yuyuko probably doesn't have the ability to kill off numerous extremely powerful beings that have most likely existed for tens of thousands (In Eirin's case, millions) of years.

Also, to the last statement. Lunarians specialize in sealing gods. The rope they tied Yukari up with was the same rope they use to seal gods. They won't have much trouble at all.

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>>11873024

I'll just assume Eiren and the Dragon God won't take sides since they have relations to both Gensokyo and the Lunar Capital.
Lunarian magic is far superior to Earth magic, but it seems like they invoke the same gods(Reimu and Yorihime seem to know most of the same gods, but the wiki page states that Yorihime summons god under the Lord Enma, which I'm assuming is more Buddhist/Hinduist than Shinto beliefs? Probably?)
Then again, it seems like the Lunarians did seal a few gods in fear of retribution.
Yorihime and her sister are the strongest beings in the Lunar Capital most likely, so Yuyuko could kill off quite a few minor characters before... being killed? Double killed?
It seems that the Lunarians only sealed a few gods that they were sure to cause retribution; we don't know the circumstances under which they did it either.

And also, Yukari shows no fear of the Lunarians. She's literally so bored she conjures up a random invasion force consisting of two people who care; Ran and herself. She openly declares it, goes on with it, all to steal some random treasures for shits and giggles.

Due to whatever reason, it seems that they won't harm each other.

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>>11873090
>Yorihime and her sister are the strongest beings in the Lunar Capital most likely
I doubt that. Unless they're strongest than Tsukuyomi and Ryuji.

[Anonymous No.]

Lunarians are better because they are on the American moon. Gensokyo is a Japanese land. America put a flag on the moon and now the moon is part of the best country of the earth.

America bombed Japan so hard they broke and became gay. Thus Gensokyo is full of gay and weak people. But moonland is pure and strong like the land of the free.

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>>11873090
The invasion force was at first the many, many ancient Youkai attacking roughly a thousand years ago (If you really want to count that).

The second one was the whole-bunch of Gensokyo characters (Reimu & friends).

Eirin doesn't have much attachment at all to Gensokyo, she's pretty much there for Kaguya's sake entirely. Kaguya likes living on Earth in comparison to the Moon (Possibly bitter or she just enjoys it).

You're thinking purely of Yorihime in terms of magic. Yorihime summons Lunar gods (I'm assuming the same as you) whilst Reimu uses Gensokyo gods and the like.

Lunarian magic is mostly seen through some descriptions of their mighty technology as well as Eirin's charms and what she's done in the past.

>>11873101
Tsukuyomi is just a sage that Eirin brought up. Even he considers her as the senior.

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>>11873024
Erin did not create Lunarian Society, it was created by Lord Tsukuyomi, she was there when it was founded though.

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>>11873105
>American moon
>America put a flag on the moon and now the moon is part of the best country of the earth
No.

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>>11873109
Eirin has been around for much longer than Tsukuyomi, as previously stated even he considers Eirin as his senior.

Hell, even Eirin mentions that she remembers a time before humanity.

See CiLR.

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>>11873113
I'm not saying Tsukuyomi is stronger than Erin, I'm saying that he is the one who founded Lunarian society

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Lunarians win in brute strength, but that's literally all they have. There's no cunning or intelligence there, just arrogance and violence. Yukari obviously doesn't want to start an open war with them because it would most likely cost most of Gensokyo as a result, but Silent Sinner (and that one book I can't remember the name of) showed that she stays three steps ahead and makes sure Eirin knows about it.

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>>11873122
If there's no cunning or intelligence, then how did Yorihime beat Remilia?

Oh wait.

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>>11873107

I thought it was said that the invasion force was weaker than current Gensokyo? Since Yukari herself said they're a LOT more youkai now. I'm assuming all of those who were in Gensokyo back then were those who have began to lose faith/belief and were starting to disappear. Most of the stronger youkai were probably still in the ordinary world chillin' and eating people.

Second one, Marisa/SDM/Yuyuko/Youmu weren't really planning to invade. Well, besides Remilia but she got tired after losing a danmaku battle. Marisa states that they can't win no matter what, Reimu says that she would win if she were the good guy, Yukari states that the moon's forces are superior, ect.

Wasn't Kaguya expelled from the moon? Also, that slaying of all the moon visitors is probably a sore point.

Also, Lunar gods are probably stronger than Gensokyo gods.. Probably? Or they might be the same, as Gensokyo is those who have begun to lose faith move in. Not sure about Lunar gods.

There's honestly too much ambiguity in powers and abilities. Straight up it seems like the Lunarians have an advantage, but who knows. Gensokyo has quite a few reality and planet wreckers as well.

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>>11873127
For the first one: Much of the youkai in the first invasion force were ancient youkai. Pretty powerful dudes, but they don't have any names. The difference between the first and the second invasion was that the second invasion wasn't entirely no-names. Of course they're going to be stronger.

Kaguya was exiled from the Moon, but Eirin was sent with some emissiaries because they wanted her back. Kaguya decided that she liked Earth more than Moon so Eirin stayed with her because they're besties.

Lunarians seem to be completely different on a whole level to Gensokyo. None of them are youkai (In the sense that if you stop beliving in them, they go away) and Eirin has some pretty broken technology, she fiddles with quantum mechanics in her spare time.

You can't really fuck with a civilization that plays with quantum mechanics as if it were just another science.

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>>11873133
>You can't really fuck with a civilization that plays with quantum mechanics as if it were just another science.
QFT

[Anonymous No.]

Yorihime at her best. The less likely it is, the more satisfying the defeat.

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>>11873118
Tsukuyomi wasn't exactly the brightest, looking at the Ukemochi episode. Besides, he was a guy (probably...) who had a competent godess of wisdom with him, so I guess Eirin did all the work while he just acted important and stuff. Just a hypothesis.

>>11873122
It's not like they have no inteligence or cunning. They used to have a madness-inducing rabbit and a telepathically connected army. Although that doesn't change the fact that Eirin thought up the whole counter-Yukari plan and the Watatsukis just acted along with it, then figured their job to be done. Ignoring an unknown pink lady walking around and playing with the rabbits.

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>>11873122
As someone that never bothered to read SSiB you actually made those characters appeal to me with the way you described them.

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>>11874076
You should give it a read. Aki Eda's art is kind of charming (kind of ugly too) and the story is a neat idea. Kind of infuriating in the last half but everything works out in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck the lunarians

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>>11874148
This is one of my favorite Touhou pics.

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>>11874148
This is one of my most hated Touhou pics.

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>>11874246
Fucked up my trip. Can't even write that right. Fuck.

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>>11873014
>Couldn't have Yuyuko just used her ability to kill every single living being in the lunar capital?
Yuyuko's death power doesn't work in the Lunar Capital, since it's basically an afterlife realm already.

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>>11875924
Does it say that anywhere or are you pulling it out of your ass?

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>>11876102
The whole reason Lunarians live on the moon is because it has no impurity, and thus life/death/age don't exist in the traditional sense - it's a "Pure Land". Yuyuko explicitly can't invite people to death while they're in the Netherworld because the Netherworld is also Pure Land.

As Netherworld natives, Yuyuko and Youmus' lack of impurity is the only reason they were able to sneak into the Lunar Capital without being detected in the first place.

tl;dr - Yuyuko can't control death because there's no death to control.

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>>11876436
If life death and age dont exist on the moon why the hell would eirin make the hourai elixer

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>>11876483
That's different. Just because things don't decay, that doesn't mean a Lunarian couldn't fall on a sword and cut their head off or whatever. Basically:
>Normal human
can_die = TRUE
>Hourai drinker
can_die = FALSE
>Pure Lander
can_die = null

As for why she did it, the reason seems to be "curiosity".

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>>11876436
When has any of this ever been stated? I don't think it works that way at all.

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>>11876436
Yuyuko can't kill people in the Netherworld because they are already considered dead as long as they are there not because it's some pure elfen forest. That's all fanwanking there. All SSIB says is that Yuyuko and Youmu live in a pure area, nothing about any powers not working.

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>>11876515
Kaguya using her ability to remove the time from Eientei is described as making it the same as the Lunar Capital.

There's actually a few paragraphs in one of the books somewhere about how being a Pure Land means the Netherworld is deprived of the Japanese sense of "beauty in transience". In other words, without time they'll never have anything that's old and worn-out, and those are the prettiest things. So they go out of their way to FAKE the effects of age.

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>>11876527
Let me dig around for references. Here's the last chapter of Cage in Lunatic Runagate for a start:

>Ghosts originally lived in the Pure Land. This meant they are not tainted by life nor death, and they were able to move without leaving behind any traces of their presence.
>Ghosts had nothing to do with life nor death. Because of that, they fit in perfectly with the pure nature of the Lunar Capital. During her month-long stay on the moon, Yuyuko's presence there did not raise any suspicions in the least.

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>>11876515
I'd like to know where he took the "Yuyuko can't use her power" from, but the rest is all over (Eiya/Bougetsu)shou.

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>>11873014
Who the FUCK is Eiren!??!

[Anonymous No.]

If things living in pure areas don't age/die and only get fake aging effects because lolwhynot then how come it says in PCB that Youki grew older due to his nature as a half ghost? Why would it matter if he's a half-ghost if all things stay as they are in there anyway? Because he goes outside of that area sometimes? Youmu does the same and she looks really young. Does leaving these areas stain you? Yuyuko goes outside too and she is still pure. Youmu too and she's just half a ghost.

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>>11876550
Yuyuko's IaMP ending:
>"There is no simple elegance in the Netherworld"
This is a really awkward translation. "Simple elegance" is originally "sabi", which means something like "the beauty of things which are aged or worn".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

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>>11876584
ZUN isn't always consistent, and in early games he didn't really have the setting nailed down. In EoSD the human village was outside Gensokyo, until the supplemental materials retconned it.

[Anonymous No.]

If you live in a pure land you can't die yet at the same time you can still die if you get killed. Why was the hourai elixir bad again? Shouldn't they be even purer after using it since death/decay/whatever is completely removed at all times?

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>>11876642
Nope. The Hourai elixir makes you mortal (and thus impure), but with an infinitely powerful healing factor.

Impurity doesn't just cause death, it causes strife, self-doubt, bad luck and every other horrible thing you can think of. Lunarians are essentially living in a state of eternal bliss, free from all worldly concerns, and the idea of giving that up is horrifying to them.

[Anonymous No.]

If you kill a lunarian they become unpure since they have been in direct contact with death. They get branded unpure posthumously by their society and their family must live with that shame.

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>>11876584
There's a crucial difference between growing and decaying.

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>>11876716
Relatedly, brewing alcohol does not count as decay. Because that would make alcohol a bad thing, and we couldn't have that.

No, this isn't just ZUN. Sake is regarded as a gift from the gods.

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>>11876584
Maybe it depends on if you are more ghost or man. Youki might have just been unlucky enough to be more man than ghost and mortal because of that.

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>>11873014
Why does Eirin play servant to Kaguya?

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>>11876550
What is this even trying to do? Rewrite all folklore regarding ghosts in Japan?
>Ghosts had nothing to do with life nor death.
This doesn't even fit for Yuyuko.

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>>11876804
To be fair,
>Ghosts originally lived in the Pure Land. This meant they are not tainted by life nor death, and they were able to move without leaving behind any traces of their presence.
Was immediately followed by
>Very few were aware of this fact. Even the youkai who initially invaded the moon so long ago were surprised.

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>>11876813
What kind of ghosts are that even supposed to be and why would what those magical ghosts did have any effect for Youmu or Yuyuko, who are clearly not these ghosts? Was there just some ghost colony filled with ghosts who appeared out of nothing? Why would they even appear in the first place?

You read up stuff on japanese ghosts, what they do, how they work and then you read shit like this.

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>>11876781

Kaguya a qt.

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>>11876584
Youki probably left the Hakugyourou once in a while. Like Youmu. To get food, resolve incident, or get married.

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>>11876642
Because an immortal can LEAVE the pure land, and isn't affected by the whole purity.

It's like the difference between a highlander who doesn't die unless you cut his head and a perfect immortal who doesn't die even if you kill him. In case of a fight, the second will always live and outlive the first one.

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>>11878192
Why would an immortal not be effected by the purity of the land and why would leaving a pure area be something that only an immortal can do? The people on the moon are not trapped in their village.

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>>11878201
If it was the case, mah waifu wouldn't be rambling about impurity.

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>>11878209
But why is a lunarian who drinks that suddenly not pure? Because everyone is jealous since you won't die even if you get killed?

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>>11878232
I can't answer that, as anything I would say would be my opinion rather than reliable fact.

But if my opinion is really that interesting, here's what I think : the lunarians are almost immortal, because they're living in a pure land, and are all gods somehow.
They cheated a bit, but unlike the hermits who are constantly stalked by the death reaper (forgot its name), they're free. Because unlike the hermits and the shikaisen, they didn't really cheated death.
However, Kaguya, when she drank the Hourai, became a perfect immortal, and thus did ot abide by the rules. I think the Lunarians aren't really happy about dying, but they accept it. Kaguya cannot die, so she's an abomination. A living blasphemy against natural order.
To put it simply, Lunarians are hardcore gamers, going as far as living on the Moon in order to live longer. While Kaguya just cheats.

That's only my opinion, so it's probably extremely flawed.
But that's how debates work anyway, so go on, shoot my theory down.

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>>11878232
Because it makes you "super-alive", thereby placing you in the realm of life and death, while normal Lunarians are neither alive nor dead.

Or if you prefer, "shielded from death" still counts as a connection to death, whereas normal Lunarians have no connection to death at all.

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>>11879008
but what about connectionto faggotry?

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>>11881079
>but what about connectionto faggotry?
Use the space bar.

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>>11878547
Resistance against this theory is futile.

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>>11881309
Stop congratulating yourself.

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>>11881376
You must be the guy who voted for 0.

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

My point is, mah waifu is better than your waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

Never understood why Eirin wanted to cut protect Gensokyo from the Moon if the one officially in charge of her capture are friends with her.

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>>11882389

Armstrong fugd your waifu.

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>>11888352
Armstrong's dead, and I want to celebrate it
He's pushin' up daisies former and belated,
That guy asked why I'm elated
well, Armstrong's dead!
Follow the bouncing skull!
Yeesss, Armstrong's kaput!
No longer operatin'
Retired! Expired!
Quite an emancipation
Released, Deceased!
Gone bust, he's dust!
Let's lift up our faces
And do a pelvic thrust!
Uhh!
Armstrong's dead!
He was dirty and obscene, and not a little mean!
So I'll sing all by myself
Now that he's gone to his reward!
Armstrong's dead, he's history!
Why I shake my head's no mystery!
He's gone at last, his time has past!
Now I can go back to staring at the moon!
Yeah, Armstrong's DEAD!

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>>11889110
the fuck is that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11889839
Gravedancing.

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[Anonymous No.]

Wee- MONTHLY reminder that Yorihime is my favourite Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

The only good thing about the moon are their sluts, I mean they are so pure even to get AIDS or any STD...

And if i remember correctly the moon sisters were married so they are sluts

[None !u.ddykRmDU No.]

>>11894960
Ye best be trollin ye lil shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11889110
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUmv8imdH0

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>>11894997
Not the same anon, but I'm pretty sure at least one of them were married, it should be mentioned in canon somewhere.

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>>11900040
It is canon.
They both married Eirin's relatives. That doesn't make them sluts, compared to Suwako or Sanae.