Kantai collection - Kancolle -

[Anonymous No.]

Previous Thread: >>11752997

Comiket 85 is happening. Fire up your Japanese P2P and miserably obsess over all the comics you can't read and lyrics you can't parse because there's going to be Kantai Collections everywhere.

CARNIVAL also continues until the 8th. Don't forget to pick up New Year's furniture and pour all your resources into the LSC black hole.

English Wiki: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

Must reads
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://pastebin.com/jvTQfLqb

Japanese Wikis
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others
Kancolle Anime: http://kancolle-anime.jp/
Kancolle Vita: http://www.kancolle-vita.com/
Detailed Battle Mechanics: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/
Kancolle Viewer: https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Kancolle Viewer (Translated): https://github.com/silfumus/KanColleViewer / https://github.com/dvdlesher/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: http://kancolle.sanaechan.net/

Also, please try to keep emoticons, greentext, screenshots, and dumb questions to a reasonable minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

That's not true. C85 is over.

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to take this post to commemorate the lewdest destroyer.

[Anonymous No.]

I-401 has cute post-remodel lines. She is a swell gal.

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>>11761448
That's not Kisaragi.

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>>11761383
This is the archery comic, I didn't have room in the last thread.

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>>11761469
Nachi is the densest Kancolle.

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Why won't Nagato drop? I'm sick of getting five Shoukaku from E-2.

Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11761474
Because you want her.

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>>11761474
Because Nagato, much like Taihou, doesn't actually exist and is just one big inside joke perpetuated by the devs and the players into tricking you out of your hard earned resources. At least that's what I've come to believe.

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What are the best damaged sprite combos?

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>>11761474
Isn't this kind of Desire Sensor bullshitry like in Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate? I mean, I was looking for Shoukaku before and I even did throw all of my resources just to craft her but all I got is fucking 3:00:00 timers and two Akagi.

And now just when I gave up of getting her, she is now storming my docks.

There you go. Undeniable evidence.

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>>11761495
Sazanami.

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>>11761495
Suzuya's damaged Kai sprite is a huge disappointment, I hate how she went from normal sized breasts to massive implants that don't even look good.

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>>11761495
Chitose and Chiyoda carrier kai ni.

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>>11761504
Combination implies there's more than one character involved.

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>>11761495
>>11761504
Oh wait, missed combo. Never really considered that.

On a side note, I still find it funny and weird how different the proportions are when ships with different artstyle get damaged and shown on screen at the same time.

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>>11761495
Oh god. What's wrong with Suzuya's face.

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>>11761523
She's having her eye stabbed.

[Anonymous No.]

So I get sent east twice every time on E-3. I don't mind, but I don't see any compass information on the wiki so am I just extremely lucky?

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>>11761531
Luck, its all about luck

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So I got back from C85 and theres Kancolle shit EVERYWHERE that I kinda need to take a look into this.

I did a read on wiki about what Kancolle is, and it just seems like RNG general.

I've got a few questions, specifically, is there PvP? I'm usually only really interested in PvP in games, so yeah. Also, if there is PvP, how do you win? Is "skill," relevant at all in the game?

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>>11761531
>skill
Yeah it depends how good you're at spinning the RNG roulette.

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>>11761531
It pretty much is RNG general. There's no PvP to speak of, unfortunately. You do battle against other player's teams, but neither of you get any tactical input other than you get to choose your formation.

If you like gacha games and you like the voices you might have a fun time.

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>>11761536
>>11761538
so its literally just RNG General. Damn that's disappointing.

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>>11761531
>I did a read on wiki about what Kancolle is, and it just seems like RNG general.

It Is.

>I've got a few questions, specifically, is there PvP? I'm usually only really interested in PvP in games, so yeah. Also, if there is PvP, how do you win? Is "skill," relevant at all in the game?

PvP is limited to facing an RNG controlled enemy team ten time per day, while choosing the good line up and formation is imporantant it's still dominated by one's devotion toward RNG.

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>>11761531
It's RNG, but preparing yourself "more optimally" makes it a bit more forgiving.

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>>11761529
Not really, it's actually harder to get sent North and nobody ever goes south.

Not yetcofirmed route:
>戦艦か正規空母（軽空母不可）を1隻でも含む編成 → B 75%・C 25% のランダム（ゲージが残り20%の時にCに行きやすい？ 9/10回）

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>>11761531
I missed you, resident shitposter.
Was your new year resolution to be slightly more clever and subtle ? Nice wrok.

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[暁の水平線 !hGutZ2GF7c No.]

>>11761549
You're completely retarded. Kill yourself out of /jp/.

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>>11761549
But how is that a shitpost? Thats an actual question

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>>11761531
>Is "skill," relevant at all in the game?
Yes, a good amount. Only the skilled players have the rare, high leveled ships, loads of resources and 元帥 rank.

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>>11761543
>>11761541

So from what I gather, a total day1 noob could win against the most veteran of players with their starter lineup if they get lucky? Wow lol.

What do you gain from winning/what do you lose from losing a battle against other players?

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>>11761556
29th for naka-chang

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>>11761548
Ok yeah, I'm at 20% gauge and I just got sent to transport node and then steel node.

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>>11761568
It's a grinding game. Think Pokemon. No, your level 1 team won't beat a level 50 team even if your opponent is retarded.

If you win you get more experience and more resources, and if you lose you don't.

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>>11761568
No, a day 1 player couldn't win against a veteran of several months (unless the veteran left several level 1 ships in their fleet).
While RNG is a big part of the game, stats, levels, and fleet composition are another big part.

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>>11761568
>So from what I gather, a total day1 noob could win against the most veteran of players with their starter lineup if they get lucky? Wow lol.

But that's fucking wrong.

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>>11761568
You sound like a normie. Normies need to die.

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>>11761568
I guess if your starter lineup includes Iona. Has anyone even managed to defeat her yet?

But to answer your question, no. You get to see your opponent's fleet before you decide to fight so once you have a decent variety of ships, it's pretty easy to tailor your fleet to beating them though. Also your pvp opponents have slightly reduced stats.

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>>11761573
>>11761574
oh I see. So you level/upgrade your ships and stuff then? How does matchmaking work? Is there even matchmaking? Like if I have a day 1 team, will I get matched against other Day1/2 players? Or is it completely random?

If so, should I just grind my way to full level first before even attempting PvP?

Btw, if it is as you guys say, why do you claim its RNG? Do you mean if two "equally kitted out teams," face against each other its RNG? Or are there other major factors that could screw you over?

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>>11761582
You have ship levels and player levels. You're generally matched against players of equivalent player level. Also, you're limited to ten matches a day.

Really, if you want to play this for the PvP, absolutely don't bother. Your opponent won't even see it. He'll just get a little notification that says "someone challenged your fleet and won" or "someone challenged your fleet and lost" so you can't even gloat when you win. The system is also grossly rigged in your favor if you're on the challenger side so everybody wins anyway.

>>11761585
I guess Iona could go against heavy fleets and B rank them.

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>>11761582
It matches you to 5 opponents every 12 hours. 4 of these opponents will be near your level (your ships have individual levels and you have your own HQ level that gains xp as your ships do), and one opponent who is the highest rank and usually much higher level than you.
It's RNG in that routing on missions is completely random. If you can go north, west, or south at a spot, you have no control over which way you'll go. While stats and equipment plays a factor, the damage you deal and take is also mostly RNG. The ships you craft and gain from drops is also all RNG.
Despite all of this, it's a really addictive and fun game.

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>>11761507
Konishi's art is too inconsistent. As much as I love Suzuya - she was one of the ones that drew me into the game - her damaged Kai sprite is too awkward.

At least Konishi's art though in general isn't too inconsistent, compared to that of say, Kuuro Kuro's.

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>>11761531
Wow, look at the new entourage of the shitposter.

Please go and stay go.

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>>11761591
>>11761593

Alright. Thanks for the honest and informative replies.

>Really, if you want to play this for the PvP, absolutely don't bother. Your opponent won't even see it. He'll just get a little notification that says "someone challenged your fleet and won" or "someone challenged your fleet and lost" so you can't even gloat when you win. The system is also grossly rigged in your favor if you're on the challenger side so everybody wins anyway.

K so basically its a single player game that happens to have some very slight online features. I thought it was more online heavy. That's unfortunate.

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>>11761597
Maybe she will get a fixed kai like shiratsuyu and murasame, one can hope.

[Anonymous No.]

M-my rank...

[Anonymous No.]

RIP Takao

i won't be getting the furniture now, will i

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>>11761597
I'm going to make curry tonight just for her.

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>>11761597
>Konishi's art is too inconsistent.

While I like Konishi, it bothers me that he gets so many girls to illustrate. Firstly, I'd like to see more of new Shizuma or Shibafu sprites, and secondly, having too much on his plate contributes to Konishi's inconsistencies.

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>>11761613
>Shibafu
No thanks. Konishi's designs are at least nice.

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>>11761607
Nope, but you dont deserve it for letting her sink so dont worry about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dSUnDa8Fg

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>>11761613
>More shibafu sprites
Oh god no, please no.
I-401 was horrible, we don't need more plain subs by him.

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>>11761602
Maybe, but it'd be awkward to have a girl whose sprites are done by two different artists. Yes, Naka had that Christmas artwork done by (I think) Konishi, but what I mean is that the nondamaged sprite doesn't change and the damaged sprite does change. It'd look weird.

Though if Kujou Ichiso redid did the whole Mogami class that'd be awesome.

>>11761620
Personally I don't mind Shibafu's art. I do like his destroyers partly because they are more reserved than say, Yakodari's destroyers (though I do prefer Yakodari's girls). I-401 is also growing on me, even if she does look like a Mexican from a Comic LO book.

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>>11761607
It's okay, it will be some shitty furniture you won't use anyway

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>>11761632
>Naka had that Christmas artwork done by (I think) Konishi
Hah, it's like artists can't improve, it was bob's.

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>>11761635
What if it ends up being equipment and not furniture?

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>>11761636
That was bob's Christmas Naka?

I'm surprised. The coloring and shading reminded me of Konishi. Guess I'm wrong.

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>>11761632
> Naka had that Christmas artwork done by (I think) Konishi
I'm curious, why do you think that? It looked like bob's to me.

> Though if Kujou Ichiso redid did the whole Mogami class that'd be awesome.
I love the guy's work, but I don't want him touching Kumarin. She's already perfect.
I actually feel bad that Ichiso did Kiso Kai2 sprite. It's like telling the previous illustrator he's not good enough or something. I personally like UGUME's Tama and Kuma.

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>>11761637
What if it ends up they let you keep the ships?

See I can make shit up too.

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>>11761637
I would doubt it is better than what I get from monthly ranking

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>>11761636
He should update the Chikuma sprite.

>>11761637
Heavy Gravity Cannon (☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ SSS Holo)

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>>11761648
Can only be equipped on Kongou, Takao and Haruna.
No kirishima because bears cant shoot gravity cannons

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>>11761650
They never swapped artists.
Kiso K2 is done by UGUME.

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>>11761648
He should update all of his sprites I think, but you're right; Chikuma needs it desperately.

>>11761650
Really I thought it was Konishi's because of eye shape, shading, and coloring. It really didn't remind me of bob's work that was already in the game.

>>11761661
I think part of the reason why Kiso K2 looks different from her previous form is because I think UGUME wanted her to look less like Murasa. Then again I think Murasa is UGUME's waifu, judging by the pictures on his Pixiv.

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>>11761591
>He'll just get a little notification that says "someone challenged your fleet and won" or "someone challenged your fleet and lost"
What

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>>11761661
Huh, interesting. I hadn't checked out his pixiv page until now. I thought Kiso Kai2 looked way more in line with Poi K2 rather than original Kiso, but I guess that's more of the dark theme the two illustrators went for.

>>11761667
>Konishi
Sorry, your previous response hadn't auto-loaded when I posted that. I'm actually rather fond of Sendai and Wagahai, so I followed bob on twitter and pixiv, but I suppose it wouldn't have been obvious to others, just as how I mistook Kiso Kai2 for someone else's work.

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>>11761675
Oh right, I always wondered about it.

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>>11761669
There's a log here

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>>11761667
So that explains why they look the same. I actually have UGUME on my feed from way back for his Touhou stuff (among a hundred others) but I didn't realize he did the Kumas and Furutakas.

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>>11761687
I really wouldn't be surprised if the original sprite of Kiso was a piece of Murasa fan art prior. That, or he though "hey I'll draw Murasa for this upcoming browser game" and it stuck. Then again, we won't know unless the artist says so himself. That being said, I do enjoy his artwork.

I do say the term "waifu" loosely because looking on his Pixiv he does have quite a bit of Murasa art.

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>>11761508
The seaplane ChitoChiyo combo is also great because the floor gets totally carpeted in fallen planes. Too bad you only see it for half a second.

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>>11761495
Agano sisters.

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>>11761701
Is Murasa a separate character from Kiso? Because she really looks like Kiso.

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>>11761719
Murasa came first.

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>>11761719
welcome to /jp/

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>>11761721
>>11761726
Oh wow, Kiso is a Touhou, I didn't know that.
I guess you learn something new every day.

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>>11761733
Nononono.

Murasa is Murasa and Kiso is Kiso. Kiso's art is at least heavily based off Murasa and might even be Murasa fan art prior to KanColle or even is Murasa fan art drawn for KanColle (we don't know that though), but the two girls are separate entities.

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>>11761745
They could be twins though, like Ikazuchi and Inazuma.
Impossible to tell them apart

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>>11761745
More like Murasa is heavily based off Captain Harlock, and Kiso is mix of both of them but more Harlock like.

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>>11761606
You guys have to get on my level.

Also when do we find out if we got the monthly prizes?

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>>11761761
True but I'm speaking by pure aesthetics on Kiso's original form.

>>11761750
That'd imply they're from the same series, which they aren't.

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>>11761750
No they can't. Unless they were twins in a previous life or they 'sank' at the same time, but then we'd be entering crossover fanfic territory.

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>>11761761
> More like Murasa is heavily based off Captain Harlock
You've lost me. Is this something beyond their aesthetic design?

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>>11761776
>>11761774
You two are not fun at all, you don't have to be from the same series to compare two characters that really look alike.

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>>11761779
One can compare two characters from different series that do look alike, yes. But to say they are twins is reaching into fanfiction territory.

Which, okay, if you're into fanfiction, that's fine by me but aside from them being heavily similar/the same design-wise (and maybe personality wise) they're two separate entities. One is a personification of a WWII warship, and the other is a ghost that sinks ships; two vastly different things, but hey, maybe UGUME was playing around with that when he penned Kiso.

[Anonymous No.]

Which spot would be more reliable to drop Imuya? 3-3A or E-1? I'm a bit worried about E-1 drop rate, but on the other hand, droptable for 3-3A looks bloated.

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>>11761802
I got 3 from 3-3-A in 2 hours and haven't seen a single one in E-1.

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>>11761802
>>11761814
If it helps, there is 2-3 boss node; that's where I found mine.

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>>11761814
>>11761815
Thanks, I think I'll focus on 3-3A and try other maps while completing dailies and weeklies.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy New Year~

[Anonymous No.]

Happy New Year faggots. I hope you get you most wanted ship this year.

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>>11762022
You too, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it a bad idea to take my kongou to kai 2?

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>>11762046
yes

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>>11762046
It's a bad idea if you hate her new sprite and bigger consumption.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11762046
If you don't mind her new sprite, no.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth buying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11762115
It depends if you like it or you can just keep those coins for something else.

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Somewhat of a stupid question, but I should be saving all the buckets I get, right? It's what I've been doing but it's taking a while to get anything above level 30, unless I grind 1-1 or 1-2, but that's really boring and seems somewhat inefficient.

I'm just not really sure what to do until I get to 3-2, or should I sub cheese my way there from 2-1, then level?

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>>11762256
The second world gives much more experience compared to the first. If you have ships over level 20, you should be able to tackle it at least up to 2-4.

As for the buckets, feel free to use them while you're actively playing. They accumulate over time, especially if you regularly do the second expedition. Just don't go overboard with the repairs.

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>>11762256
You can get about 10 buckets a day if you do every daily available in world 2, and - depending on how much you run it - can easily get another 5-10 buckets a day from expedition 2. They add up pretty fast; I started about a month ago and am up to just shy of 500. Don't hesitate to use them, just try to keep your net bucket income positive since you WILL need them, in huge quantities, for events.

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>>11762256
>>11762280

It helps to keep a spreadsheet with your resource/bucket income just so that you can tweak things. (run more expeditions, sortie less etc)

I usually get between 5 (heavy sortie day) to 25 buckets per day.

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>>11762256
You can just beat 2-4 with Iona+subs and tons of other maps.
She is the best xmas gift given by the devs, better use it before she is gone.

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>>11762256
Spamming exp 2 is the best way to acquire them after dailies. If you worry about spending them, set a minimum repair time that would justify using a bucket (over 1 hour long, for example). As for exp, just spam 2-4-A.

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>>11762256
You can solo 2-4 with Iona.

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>>11762297
Not that guy but I read that in the wiki too, what's the clearing condition for a map ? Is it just reaching the end ?

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>>11762320
No, you need to get a rank B or higher, but with Iona it's piss-easy.

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>>11762297
Dude, he seems still new, he probably doesn't even have Iona

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>>11762337
If he has subs, but hasn't opened worlds 3 and 4 yet, this means that he got them from the event.

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>>11762337

He indicated in his post that he has access to 2-1, which means he can get Iona easily through 1-4.

From there, get her to level 10 and everything's easy from there.

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>>11762337
I got her and managed to clear E1 once, I have I-58 and I-168 for subs from trying to craft Shimakaze while doing my dailies.
I just haven't been using Lona because she costs a fair amount of resources and I don't have to much to spare, but I guess I should try to get as far as I can with her (and I-58/I168?) before the event ends.

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>>11762320
It's possible to easily clear 2-4 with any submarine, not only Iona. It requires some luck, since your sub has to evade enough attacks and deal some damage on boss node for B rank. This method is very resource-efficient and can be repeated very often thanks to low repair time and almost inexistent costs. Iona is an exception - she's very tanky and has insanely high stats, but her resupplying costs are very high.

Sorry if this post is incoherent, I'm too sleepy to think properly. Hope you understand me.

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>>11762351
You still have a week left.
Depending on your HQ level, E2 and E3 might be pissed easy. If it is then just beat the maps and get I401 and farm E2 for Nagato and other rare drops.
This is what you should do if the maps are too hard for you.
Take your 3subs cheese your way to 3-2, level your ships and then go rape Kongou and friends.

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Desire sensor is confirmation bias at it's finest.
If you want something, you keep track of how many times you've tried for it. If it takes you 12 crafts to get that Shoukaku you wanted, RNG was keeping her from you!
But if it takes you 23 crafts to get a Zuikaku you didn't want, you haven't been keeping track. You think "Oh hey I just got Zuikaku in one craft! I didn't even want her!"

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>>11762351
Ah in that case, the previous guy is right, you can easily beat 2-3 and 2-4 with just Iona solo.

>Resources
Yeah, just make sure to keep doing expedition steadily, that's pretty much what you can do at this point, I guess. If you are running out of steel, just unlock 3-2 ASAP and abuse the steel node.

Honestly, I do agree with this guy >>11762364. A week should be enough, just make sure to keep advancing when your health is orange (my biggest mistake was not doing this, that's why the event took way too damn long for me to clear)

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I really liked Aoba voice, but why are her eyes looks similar to a blind person's?

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>>11762425
She's an Abyss spy.

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>>11762425
Because she's longing for her sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11762425
She'd seen things during the Indian Ocean raids.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally time to change wall scrolls.

[Anonymous No.]

YES I got my Zuihou, now I can grope her lovingly as much as I want

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>>11762327
>>11762359
>>11762297
Oh, wow. Thanks all of you kind anons.
Just cleared the map and got Kirishima on the boss node. I genuinely hope the RNG grants you the same blessing it just granted me.

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>>11762495
Zuihou makes the sexiest noises.

[Anonymous No.]

How many ice creams do you have? I have 3.

[Anonymous No.]

How many Yamato do you have? I have 0.

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>>11762501
She really does, I almost went diamond because of her

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>>11762501
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYimig4tDZ4

[Anonymous No.]

How do I know if I made it into last months top500? Is there a list somewhere?

[Anonymous No.]

What server does /jp/ play in?

[Anonymous No.]

When's the next lotto?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11762640
The Russian one.

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>>11762812
Haven't been on that one, if I am from Eastern Europe, will my connection speed allow me to quick-scope Shimakaze?

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>>11762830
Only if you can 720 it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11762830
I'd quick scope her if you know what I mean. My penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11761585
Someone did. Not me though.

[Anonymous No.]

I really can't wait to throw away all of my resources trying to craft a Musashi.

[Anonymous No.]

So I just tried to craft a Suisui 12A and the first result was a Suisui 12A.
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763022
Now try to craft a Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

Nenohi da yo

[Anonymous No.]

So I don't want to use Isuzu at all. How fucked am I later in the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763076
You could just level her through expeditions or throw her in an extra slot when leveling.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck it, I give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763083
join the club

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>>11763076
>So I don't want to use Isuzu at all. How fucked am I later in the game?
None. You will just be missing out on one of the best ships for ASW.

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>>11763076
Yuubari is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763083
It is normal
My last 5LCS netted me 2kusou, 1ise and 2kongou class.

[Anonymous No.]

Me and my noobness finally cleared E3. Should I keep running E3 for Iku or should I go back to E3 for Goya and Nagato?

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>>11763100
>Should I keep running E3 for Iku or should I go back to E3 for Goya and Nagato?
Is that a trick question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763088
It hurts spending 100k of each resource only to give up and come back empty handed. But I guess it's better to quit now and restock on resources, Yamato won't be showing up for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763105
Well, I have no subs aside from Shioi so I wondered what you guys would do in my place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763076
>>11763097
There are plenty of alternatives besides those two and CLTs if the only requirement is decent ASW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763111
I would suggest looking for Iku, considering that Goya and Imuya are farmable and craftable. But Iku is not exactly a common drop at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763117
Alright, will do, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

It pisses me off these greenhorns and people with almost all ships have already beaten the Arpeggio event while I'm still slaving away at E-2. Being an intermediate teitoku is real suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763115
But are any of the alternative as cute as Yuubari?
The answer is no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763156
The Agano sisters beg to differ.

[Anonymous No.]

...Oh god, what have I done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763167
Level sixteen admirals get easier enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763136
A level 16 friend of mine finished E-2 in two days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763166
You just earned yourself ~8 hours repair time.

[Anonymous No.]

So 3.5/3.5/6/6/20?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763162
The only one I have is an earned Noshiro, LSC refuses to give me a Yahagi or Agano. Are there are specific recipes for them or just min crafts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763176
junyou deeeeeeeeeeesu! wahaaa!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763172
I see, hope you can finish it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763186
That was actually someone else, but I'm struggling through it too with my bad fleet. I think the only reason I'm really getting through it is because IONA and TAKAO are level 30 and modernized, and I have enough holo planes to stack up Kaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763178
I have buckets, so it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763136
Are you spending all this time getting resources or actively trying and failing?

[Anonymous No.]

How's everyone's event farming so far?

Been rotating between full fleet E2 for Nagato, and 6 subs E3 for Naganami.
No luck with either.

On Naganami farming, is node farming with subs more efficient than trying to reach boss with full fleet?

Zuihou is suppose to drop everywhere in E2 and I've yet to get a single one, I don't see myself having better luck with Naganami on E3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763194
May I know your fleet composition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763194
You don't need CVs if you have CLTs/4BBs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
I've given up on farming because RNG keeps fucking me on E-3 pre-boss node. So I move my focus on LSC and lose on that as well. The only consolation prize I got is Shokaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763206
How many level 16 admirals have 4BBs? I didn't even get my first BB until I was well into 40s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763211
Again, younger TTKs get weaker enemies. I thought we were talking about 40+ here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763136
I have accepted that I won't be able to farm it but I'd at least like to clear the event for I-401.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
Looking creepy there, Shiranui.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763210
I "settled" for Shoukaku after a couple LSC attempts, then later that day I went to E2 and got Shoukaku as a drop. I wasn't amused.

But at least Shoukaku is the "rarer" sister, right? Zuikaku is supposedly the one that's easier to farm for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763211
i think i had Fusou, Yamashiro, and Hyuuga before i hit level 25.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763136
Maybe you should actually git gud?
I was an intermediate teitoku that cleared the fall event. This event is at most only as difficult as the fall event E3 map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763222
>Zuikaku is supposedly the one that's easier to farm for.
Zuikaku drops in E-3 and Shokaku drops in E-2. If anything, Zuikaku is harder because pre-boss node can potentially ruin your day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
Only need E-1 gumos now.
Notable drops:
2 Nagato
2 Mutsu (+1 more from 4-2)
1 Shoukaku
3 Abukuma
2 Zuihou
3 Mikuma
1 Kumano
1 Naganami
I-401
Not new:
2 more Kaga
1 more Shimakaze
1 more Kinu
2 more Ooi
3 more Suzuya
a bunch of subs/Kinugasa

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763235
Oh Zuikaku was from New Year LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763219
Don't worry, that's Aoba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763231
Well, outside of the event, Zuikaku drops at 5-2 while (I think) Shoukaku drops at 5-1/5-3.

While 5-1 isn't that hard, S ranking the boss fight is a BITCH because of that damned sub. Same reason farming Naganami is so damned difficult on 4-4. That single flagship sub shows up and you can kiss your S rank victory goodbye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763202
Yamashiro IONA TAKAO Kirishima Kaga Fusou

In four all-sparkle runs I've gotten two wins.

>>11763206
My best CLT is level 16 and my next best battleship is level 30.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
I've stopped farming for everything but resources, and now I'm just fully sparkling every ship just to pass the time.

Fuck completing my card book. I'll do it after Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
Farming E-1 hoping for Akigumo.
About 7k fuel left, so hopefully that's enough. But I might not have any left for large crafting after this is done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763245
Replace Kaga with another BB, that did the trick for me. Don't forget to give the double attack equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
After 6 days I gave up on looking for cranes and dumped everything on LSC and end up with Taiho,now I'm dirt poor with Taiho but without the ships I wanted.
Notable drops:Nagato,Mutsu,Shimakaze,Abukuma,Mikuma,Kumano,Suzuya,all the Yuugumo
How do I beat the desire sensor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763226
> This event is at most only as difficult as the fall event E3 map.
Bullshit, E3 didn't take 500 fuel to resupply + randomly having to pay up to 1000 in repairs per boss run.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn it LSC, I already have a Noshiro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763222
>Zuikaku is supposedly the one that's easier to farm for
Partly true only because 5-2 droplist is better than 5-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763245
Super Kitakami is still formidable when fully modernized. Even if she didn't score a clean kill she can still cripple a ship before the cannon-fire phase.
And if you're fielding CVs I'd recommend at least two, even a CVL with at least one green plane. Lone CVs tend to be kind of ineffective because their planes gets shot down too easily. Even if that CV is Ms.Kaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763255
Being able to bomb out two small ships in the opening has been a godsend since the faster Maya/Haruna dies the less likely they are to laser the whole team's face in.

I could swap it out for a level 30 Haruna but I feel like she would just get her face punched in before reaching the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763260
At least you got Taihou. Rejoice anon, she's probably worth 5 cranes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
Done farming since I've gotten every -gumo destroyer and Mikuma from event, only ships I have left to fill album are Yahagi and Akitsumaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763262
A fleet that can beat fall E3 can beat xmas E3.
There is also 1less node to do in xmas E3 while for fall you can get sent on a zigzag route and actually run out of ammo before reaching boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763262
Then use your Fall E3 fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

And by Haruna, I mean Kirishima.

>>11763264
Fusou has a green plane. Although that's obviously not what you were talking about.

>>11763279
I find Xmas E-2 just as hard as fall E-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763264
Really? I ran solo Akagi runs all the way to E3 and my planes didn't get all raped. Only got her to Kai in the second run of E3.

[Anonymous No.]

Obtained Suzuya from first LSC.

Is this a good sign?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763272
I have two Akitsumaru and I don't know what to do with them. They're difficult to sparkle, the expedition reward increase is puny... and they become what, an anti-sub CVL when remodeled or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763291
1) Get AV
2) Put Seiran on them for 1-1
3) Stack up to 3daihatsu on them
4) Profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763284
That would be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

God fucking dammit. Ooi, get in my fleet already!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763289
By greenplane I meant fighters, for shooting down enemy aircrafts.

The bombers you can put on Fusou aren't good for much other than to get shot down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763289
There is a difference between a GREEN plane (air superiority fighter) and a SEAplane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763291
At least you got Akitsumaru, I got Maryu in my fleet now and I have no idea what to do with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763301
Get another 50 of her, remodel them all, then modernize Mutsu up to 60 luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763291
She's okay if you stack boats on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763303
How is the luck cap for all ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763301
I have two Maruyu, one I'll level for collection and the other for... Mutsu I guess when she's ripened.

I don't know if luck is supposed to affect accuracy but it feels like Mutsu only land hits about 30% of the time even with a type 32 radar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763291
I have two as well and I'm cashing in 30 extra fuel and ammo for every sparkled ex5 run. Just rotate each of them so by the time one wears off you just put the boats to the other one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763303
Looking at her lines, I think modernisation would be better than staying in the docks, friendless and alone.

[Anonymous No.]

Ranking just got reset.
Seems like with LSC implemented, I just need to get 10points/day to stay in the top500. Thank you casual server. I dont even need to grind 5-2 with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763308
There's probably none. I mean if you're willing to sacrifice 90 Maruyus to give Mutsu a 100% cut in chance then I don't think the devs would stop you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763312
>friendless

Rubbish, she has the most glorious of friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763314
Rabaul here. 1st place has 65 points already, this server is crazy. Lucky my 5-3 clearing at New Year's Eve gave me decent 20 points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763316
Admit it, Kiso taught her curry only because she pities Maruyu.

>>11763322
I've given up on trying to get to the top 500 in Rabaul. I just want to get more worthy PvP opponents from ranking up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763317
I think I may have misread, since I only saw it once on twitter and hasn't seen mention of it on doorblog/etc, but doesn't Maruyu start increasing Armor/Firepower past the cap if the ship has reached their luck cap?

[Anonymous No.]

I am beginning to think that the crafting rate for Taihou is much higher than Yamato.
There is 2Taihou owner on my PVP list today.
Since they implemented LCS, I only ever saw 1guy with Yamato. My server was created after the august event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763326
A ship's luck is static, they are always in their luck cap. A ship will have the same luck from level 1 to level 99 unless it's remodeled then it will have the remodeled version's luck cap.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Imuya so worthless? I wanted her, but now that I have her I'm so underwhelmed it's amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763340
Somebody's still living in November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763334
Well, Taihou is on some level a bit more practical than Yamato.

Also, more popular because she's new and owners want to show her off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763334
I think it's more like everybody is gunning for Taihou instead of Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763334
Because everyone is anticipating for Midway event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763351
Her art isn't bad, she's just fucking terrible statwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763345
Because you have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss Airfield Hime, do you think she is an American?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763345
>Why is Imuya so worthless?
I can't argue with that. She's always lacking behind in my wolf pack while Iku just keep stealing MVP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763353
In this game a submarine's job is to gather resources cheaply and suffer a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763354
She is the most sexiest Abyss vessel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763345
She basically the most terribad sub statswise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763345
She's not bad, you just suck.
I did 2-4 on my first try with her and I do fuel runs with her and goya every day without them disappointing me.

On the other side, Iku always acts like the slut she is and eats a torpedo, forcing me to retreat and repair her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763345
Because she's easy as shit to get back in August.

Why Iku is so much stronger than her is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763342
Unless you're talking about Maruyu increasing luck then not really.

My point was
>Maruyu start increasing Armor/Firepower past the cap if the ship has reached their luck cap?
would be a stupid effect/requirement since ships are always at their luck cap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763366
If it can go up, it's not capped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763363
Here, see picture.
This happens every single time I try to take Iku on a fuel run or a sortie, any sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763368
then you wouldn't be able to surpass the armor/firepower cap by definition hurrrr

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763366
There's probably a cap to how high Maruyu can increase a ship's luck to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763366
Yes he is talking about Maruyu increasing luck.
He was asking if her ability to increase it has a cap as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763371
>What is flagship protection

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763358
Only because subs are like cheating and most maps have no real demand for them. When it comes down to getting her ass beat for the sanctity of my fleet Imuya is a good pick but I'd rather go with any other sub who won't take as much damage if they do get hit and is far less likely to leave something alive to deal damage in the first place. Imuya's the only one out of my five subs now who consistently fails to kill something in the opening phase. Not counting Iona, obviously, because that's no contest. In all my E-2 farming she's the only one that's not a part of the rotation because she's worthless when it actually matters. I don't feel like botching an entire run just because she took one hit.

>>11763371
She's in that awkward period SSV get post remodel. Once she gets some more levels she'll be head and shoulders above Imuya. I don't know why that happens but every time in the 50s and sometimes 60s they eat hits like nobodies business when they were fine before. Also yeah, flagships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763365
Because the game isn't all about strength. There's a reason people don't use fleets of Yamato class and Nagato class all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763382
>who won't take as much damage if they do get hit
Then depth charge crit lover Iku is the wrong choice

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763371
Hah, and this is what happens every time I take Imuya on a fuel run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763365
In her previous life she put multiple ships out of commission with a single salvo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763268
The main advantage of BBs is that they can fight indefinitely during the day, which is really important if one of them gets crit. Mine also withstood laser most of the time. Preemptive is a great thing in case of such strong boss, but as long as you get all but 2 ships down by night, the victory is yours, since Iona/Takao almost always trigger cut-ins that one-shot the enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763389
Iku scoped shotgun sniping all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763388
Doing it right

>>11763371
Doing it wrong

Imuya should not ever be in put in flagship.
Let her eat depth charges since thats the only thing she is good at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763378
I usually do Goya flagship and Imuya on the second slot and they rarely get hit.

And every time I try to replace Goya/Imuya with Iku, it ends like that.
She eats a crit on the first or second node and forces me to replace her with a copy of Imuya or bucket one of my damaged subs.

Im only using that in the screenshot because goya is in the bath after a day of hard work.
Got a lot of fuel and steel today, now I just have to resist the call of LSC and I'll be able to farm E3 a bit before the event ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763382
> Imuya's the only one out of my five subs now who consistently fails to kill something in the opening phase.
Equip her with 53cm/Quints or something.

[Anonymous No.]

What is log 1-7 and 6-7 on wikiwiki LSC page?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Iona constantly eat 5-6 damage from destroyers that would do like 1 damage to any other sub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763398
min damage is 10%
I thought people know this already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763398
Because scratch damage is based on % of the ship's max HP. It's there in the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763400
>>11763401
Yeah but she has like 99 fucking armor, it just seems ridiculous she constantly gets hit for so much damage from destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763401
Then I wish repair times used percent of HP lost instead of number of HP lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763395
Do people even put quints on the Hypers anymore since Ironbottom Sound? Kitakami hadn't seen a torpedo in a month now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763409
Once. After that, I had to switch for double attack because I find myself going into night battle more often now.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I knew why my subs constantly prioritize battleships they'll never kill over things that are serious threats to them, like light cruisers and destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763413
I wish I knew why my Battleships constantly prioritize Destroyers anyone else can kill over things that are serious threat to my fleet, like Ta-class and Wo-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763415
The difference is that a destroyer can actually shoot a fucking battleship. That battleship will never do a single health of damage to my submarines, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763415
>Battleships constantly prioritize Destroyers
and miss

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763420
That fucking DD in 5-2-A. Everyone including CVs just keep missing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763420
Especially if its Yukikaze in PvP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763418
I'm serious though, I've had to retreat a lot of times just because my fleet decides to shoot destroyers instead of disabling Wo-class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763425
*my battleship

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763425
That is why we bring CV and CLT along. They are supposed to weed out the weaker ones leaving the bigger fishes to your BB. Then again, even that is not consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

What's that? You just got a PERFECT S on E-2's boss node? Haha, nice. Here, have your 50th Atago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763442
I got a Fusou.
Even in LSC Yamato recipe, I get a Fusou.
When I farm in 2-3, I get a Fusou in boss node.
FUSOU FUSOU FUSOU.
Fusou everywhere!

Wait till I get that Fusou doujin from c85 and fap to it so hard I'll go FUSOUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763452
>Fusou doujin
I'll take crimes against humanity for 500

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763442
I got a Asashio for a very good run on E-3; only light damage on my fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763485
I've gotten a handful of Asashios from E-2 as well.
I haven't gotten a single Nagato, Suzuya or Kaga though.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized that even if you turn off a quest, its progress remains. This'll greatly help doing weekly quests.

[Anonymous No.]

I got my 7th Shoukaku in E-2, how long till Nagato drops?

What am I going to do with these white hair bitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763518
Feed them to Taihou

[Anonymous No.]

Just kill me already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763524
Are you looking for kumano?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763524
Where was that guy who said that Kumano was easier to get than Suzuya?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763526
2 Nagato, 5 Suzuya. Just give me a Shokaku already, fuck. 401 leveled from 1 to 54 on E-2, still no Shokaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763524
I've got the opposite problem. Some 7 Kumanon already and 0 Suzuya.

[Anonymous No.]

Would make sense after Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait... Your drop chances get nerfed under level 44 in event maps? Is that true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763537
Who is this gorgeous carrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763529
Wanna trade my 4 Shoukaku to your Nagato?

I'm starting to hate her now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763534
I keep trying for Kumano but I just cant get it.
I decided to just give up, maybe she will appear in my crafts or drops when im not expecting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763563
Desire Sensor as it's best. The trick is, you farm for Suzuya but you desire for another ship like Nagato or Shoukaku.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my fucking god I swear if I get one more Kongou sister from E-2 I'm going to explode. That's the only "rare" drop I get from S-ranking the boss node it's infuriating.

[Anonymous No.]

I did things today, too.

But I'm not blogging about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763201
Got the ones I was missing, now I only need Yukikaze before I join the LSC club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763537
How so? She became a practice carrier after midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763571
I just want Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763570
But I already have Suzuya, Shoukaku and Nagato.
The funny thing is that I got them while I was hunting for Kumano, all I want is a Kumano but the RNG is keeping me away from her and refuses to give me one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763580
So farm 3-2-A or E-2
The amount of Kongou-sisters I've gotten is disgusting, I fucking hate getting another Kongou or Kirishima in a drop. Give me Nagato or don't give me a fucking BB at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763578
You do realize at this point getting Kai2 has nothing to do with history, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763597
>getting Kai2 has nothing to do with history
As far as I know, I think Kongou and Hiei are the ones that are not historically accurate while the rest have historical justification to their second remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763597
I'd rather they just include the missing IJN ships into the roster than making Kai2 with a new art and debatable stat increases.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/17/62/040030176280.html

Need to rev up my deputy service.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763609
How are stat increases "debatable"
Even if she only got +1 health, that wouldn't be debatable, that'd be a solid increase. The only thing I can see is that "Yeah but +1 health wouldn't be worth it for the remodel costs!" but even then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763608
Yeah but that's the point though, especially since they are one of the latest ships to get 2nd remodel, with Haruna in the queue as well. Therefore, my point still stands

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763609
They need to contact illustrators for that. Either they contact the former contributor (Akitsu Maru, Maruyu) or add new one (Taihou). Who knows, maybe next time those coastal defense ships are drawn by redjuice.

[Anonymous No.]

Ume ship eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763613
And then her consumption goes through the roof. There was a drawback to the Kongou's and there'll be a drawback with Houshou. She'll get a pitiful stat upgrade since there's no historical basis in it and it'll ruin the best thing about her. The other drawback is that they're wasting time making Kai 2s for ships that don't deserve it while others get forgotten. This is all pointless since it's not gonna happen but just ask for a sprite update or something, not every ship needs a remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763627

How wide can a ship get?

[Anonymous No.]

Accidentally advanced with my I-168 in red.
Still Perfect S-ranked the boss node
He who dares wins.
Not that it matters because I got yet another Mic Check

[Anonymous No.]

All these carrier drops would have made me happy a month ago.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it, does /jp/ actually really care about history or the cuteness of the ships? I always thought most of you are swayed to play this game at the very beginning because of the latter, and still are playing for that same reason.

Or are you guys trying to be otaku and/or autist by trying to understand each ships history as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763649
I'm just bandwagoning the hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763649
You are going to get attracted to the game because of the cute ships at the start. Once you get in, you are going to end up reading ww2 history through wikipedia and ships service history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763649
I'm in the latter group but the history behind some ships are interesting and seeing them get referenced ingame makes the game more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763645
>souryuu
>happy a month ago
Not even once.
She is like the worst and most common carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

Drew my starter as my new year lot.
http://samidare.is-mine.net/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763649
I started playing the game for WW2 history, and stay playing for same reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
I drew Zuikaku. Does this mean I'm going to get one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763649
Still waiting for the next lottery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
got tatsuta. Am I saved now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763686
all CVs are still pretty good for AA modernzation

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
Molesting her all year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693

Yamashiro, average luck. That doesn't seem right... I guess this means I should get started on that Yamashiro plamo sitting on my shelf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763714
well, just look at that then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763716
Wait, does that mean Mutsu is a great fortune as well? Shit does not make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck. I got Wagahai, I wonder what does it means.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes one of my favorite destroyer

[Anonymous No.]

I've been grinding E-2 all week and I haven't gotten a single rare drop. No Suzuya, no Kumano, no Nagato, no anything. This truly is the worst fate in history. Even LSC has been giving me Fusou, Ise and Kongou class battleships and noting else.

[Anonymous No.]

Yamato, but why is it blue?

[Anonymous No.]

Futaba found out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763760
Bad luck anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763760
Because she was useless ship.
She should actually have a single digit luck stats. She didnt do anything at all except being a shooting target at ten go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763764
Why do they care what us Gaijins say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763764
Why are they stalking us? I feel watched

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763783
>red
>pretty good

wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763767
Character and level of fortune are rolled separately. At least that's what it looks like from multiple attempts with a downloaded copy of the swf.

>>11763769
>>11763774
Idle curiosity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763789
Do they ever say anything interesting or are they as boring as us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11761531
>>11761568
>>11761582
I can't believe it's not /a/!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763764
Link for the Futaba? I want to stalk our Nippon Overlords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763788
Says great luck.

[Anonymous No.]

Best carrier they said.
Cant even steal MVP from a carrier that is half her level.
Both have 2x Ryuusei kai by the way so it was fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763794
http://may.2chan.net/b/futaba.php?mode=cat&sort=3
It is always the top thread

Current active thread
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/236665950.htm

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
i drew yamato. i dont know what im supposed to feel after trying to LSC her 4 times in a row now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763805
You'll get her this year, cheer up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763798
would have been more informative without skipping some results

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763814
I only skipped 2.
Kaga snagged it one time and the other time Kiso snagged it.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best ship combination that won't eat your fuel and ammo? I'm currently using a fleet of an Aircraft Carrier, a Battleship, and 4 Destroyers but they can barely survive in world 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763818
you got to shelling phase with carrier attacks in those battles?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763822
6 mutsukis

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763801
I'm not sure I enjoyed what I saw.
It appears to be "Which kancolle wud u fug - Japanese edition"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763573
Bless you.

>>11763649
I read a bit about WWII a few years before I got into Kancolle, but it got me interested again. Although most of what I'm reading is about the China War right now.

In other news, Shinzo Abe visited Yasakuni yesterday and predictably the rest of Asia threw a shitfit.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11763798
level didn't really matter in your case when you've maxed their modernization stats.

unless you are comparing their evasion procs or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763829
And is there anything wrong with that? Only 4chan looks at a thread full of "what fleet do I use" and "still farming for ships!" and calls it a good thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763845
Which kancolle wud u fug?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763846
You have to post a funny picture or it doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763846
Mutsu

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763846
Please delete your post and try it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763846
Goya, dick version

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763846
All my cute double D's

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763823
Of course, I am doing world4 weekly. Taihou stronk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763829
Yeah, most threads do tend to look pretty shitty when you can't read them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763856
Ouch, that cuts deep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763855
I'll bite. Switch their order.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763845
To be fair, futaba is actually 10xworse than /jp/ when it comes to blogging and achievement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763791
Last time I looked (a long time ago) they were amused at similarities in humour as seen on the thread (they liked that one picture comparing Japan's past and present military), pastebin guide and wikia glossary. Some comments about the possibility of US military personnel playing the game, how peaceful Japan was to be playing a game like this with foreigners, the fact that foreigners being similar was no surprise due to also being human. Then they went back to game discussion. So in that one instance it's the latter. I don't regularly go there and my Japanese isn't great so I didn't read much into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763862
Only because their threads are faster. And they post way more funny/dumb shit so they end up more interesting overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763868
>they were amused at similarities in humour as seen on the thread
How so? We used their in-game jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763798
I don't know if this matter but switch their positions. Kaga first, Taihou second. There could be a possibility that Taihou is attacking easy targets, allowing her to score big while Kaga is left with the harder targets.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the idea to take a drink every time I get a shitty drop from an event map boss is going to result in alcohol poisoning.

[Anonymous No.]

I pulled a 中吉 Kitakami but forgot to get the picture.

Since I won't be drawing any real omikuji this will have to be it for the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763881
>>11763861
Welp, got hit by ru BB.
I am going to do more testing later once I can use my dock. Taihou didnt get a chance to shoot so Nagato took all the mvp. Taihou shelling damage trump Kaga even with 8red vs 12red planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763891
shelling damage doesn't care about plane count

[Anonymous No.]

What's the max HQ level? I looked on the wiki but it only lists levels and their required exp up until 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763891
As long as neither miss, it's not a surprise that Taihou gets more MVP. Plane count doesn't matter for shelling phase. It was already established that Taihou is the best carrier, anyways. Not because she can get MVPs (which is less important than being able to do more damage with torpedo bombers with Kaga's large slot) but because she can launch planes at orange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763895
>which is less important than being able to do more damage with torpedo bombers with Kaga's large slot
*or being able to take air superiority with Reppuu in there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763900
Kaga large reppu slot is the only advantage she has over her.
For torpedo damage, 30vs46 is a push. Even with 46 she still cant take down flagship CA or BB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763879
They didn't really mention anything except the one guy jokingly asking "which one of you was it" in response to the beaver on the wikia glossary page. For something like crit-magnet Akagi, the treatment was the same, but the term was new to them so there's still the possibility from their view that the joke could've been born independently. I don't think they really cared about the source but they found it amusing regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763902
torpedoes are there to get rid of the small fry, not the big ones

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to play with my /jp/ senpais, does anyone know when the next lottery is?

[Anonymous No.]

Do shot down sea planes consume bauxite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763917
why wouldn't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763910
Yeah. That is why I said Kaga is only good for the large Reppu slot. She is the AA carrier while Taihou is the one doing the clean up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763919
Because it seemed weird for BBVs or CAVs to consume bauxite but that's stupid reasoning, now that I think about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763915
When you read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763886
Don't anon you'll die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763936
It'll be a better fate than getting one more fucking Asashio or Kirishima from an E-2 S-rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763941
BBs are good scrap materials.

[Anonymous No.]

There's probably a sub-only setting on the desire sensor that preventing Nagato drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763798
But how can Taihou be better than Kaga when Taihou is ugly and Kaga is pretty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763952
I got 2 Nagato doing sub-only from like 40 runs.
seriously guys just stop blogging about fucking farming drops. we know who can drop from which maps already. at least the blogshitting about LSC may be counted as "theorycrafting" or something but this is just fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763915
04.01, at least that's what I've seen somewhere. I don't really care since I got into the game. Track twitter and wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763927
I did read the wiki, I just don't see when another one is besides from the last one on the 29th.
>>11763959
Okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763964
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Register

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763958
I've done 72 runs without any significant rarity drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763970

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763958
>sub only
How often do you get S rank doing that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764002
95% of the time and I don't even have I-8. You just gotta git gud. Or alternatively, read through the wiki to understand the game mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763639
Yamato-class had the widest beam among WWII warships. They've since been beaten by modern aircraft carriers.

But if you're looking at width:length ratio, Rear Admiral Popov's floating discs were pretty hard to outdo. The naval equivalent to the Kugelpanzer, these ships were unfortunately plagued by design flaws that made them rotate around like spinning tops whenever they tried to shoot or steer, and for the officers onboard the experience was akin to serving in a giant washing machine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
Bad starter. I have no hope for this year ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764013
I just looked that up and all I can say is;
wwwwwwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, I can join the Suzuya+Kumano club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764005
You are full of bull.
Maya can survive a hit even at night unless if Iona lands it. That's what fucks you from getting an S and nets you A ranking at the boss node of E2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764057
In my experience- you'll need a cut-in to kill Maya.
If you don't have remodeled subs, Iona is your only hope. That said, if you have a remodeled Goya she's got the same 50 luck as Iona and will become just as valuable as her during the night battle. It also helps if your other submarines like Iku and I-401 are remodeled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764057
Your subs suck then. Are they even remodeled for cut-ins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764057
Just put Goya and Iona last you guidebaby, they proc cut in 90% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764048
Yeah, the Novgorod was something to behold. There's even a design for her on Pixiv.

She's rather subdued for such a patently insane design, though. I imagined the Novgorod to be more akin to this:

https://fuuka.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0281/02/1383595978400.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764072
For such a ridiculous prototype, I'd assume she'd be at least golden background, although if I was adding her to Kancolle I'd make her a holo-drop from an event map like Yahagi.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a decent place to grind the carriers needed for E-3? Took me far too long to beat E-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764078
you don't need carriers there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764081
I mean grind for the quest to unlock E-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764078
I went to 2-3, finished it in 2 runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764082
2-3. Made even easier if you have subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764072
Honestly it's the kind of ship I would have drawn back in elementary school so it's not too surprising some crazy Ruskie took it one step further and actually made it. It was launched in 1873 too, so not like they knew it wasn't going to work. Hell, the ruskies made the Tsar tank too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764082
I did that quest in E-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764083
>>11764084
Guess I'll stick to that then, someone suggested 2-3 in the previous thread but I was checking to see if there was a better spot.

I do have two subs (not including Arpeggio ones) but they're relatively low level, and damage magnets...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764088
Yes there are better spots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764088
2 subs will be enough, probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764087
I don't like E-2 too much, my ships get damaged too much which cost me too much in resources and buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

And the only ship left alive was a 3hp Maya.
Kills me every single fucking time. There's no way a ship that heavily damaged would be able to escape, what prevents my night battle subs from sticking around to fire one more salvo of torpedos and finish her off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764122
You need to give them the torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764057
Not that guy but I have at least 90% S with 5 subs too, nearly 100 runs now.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's time to accept that if all four of your non-Iona subs aren't remodeled, you should stop expecting an S-rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763837
>Although most of what I'm reading is about the China War right now
Are you talking about the 1894-1895 war, or the 1937-1945 war?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764132
Why wouldn't you remodel them though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764137
Level 50

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764137
Because of muh repair time.
Lowbies don't have an unlimited supply of buckets.
They are also not very smart and still believe in turbines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763764
>米帝板

Heh. We're the American Imperialist imageboard now, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764139
if they'd believe in turbines, they'd remodel and stack them. Those who don't remodel don't believe in turbines and try to keep the repair-times down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763774
If they're stalking us, I wonder what their attitudes to gaijins playing their beloved game are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764139
Most of the time you only have 1 sub in your fleet, so repair time really won't normally be an issue. And when would you burn your buckets if not during an event? You'll have 3 months to stock up for Midway and you get like 15 buckets a day without even trying to farm them actively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763774
They're in awe of the white man. You think this game would be popular if every ship would be a mudskin like I-401?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763774
Anyone got their Taihou vector from their previous thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764086
Well, naval history is full of crazy designs after all. Novgorod and Popov may take the cake when it comes to unlikely ship designs, and have the distinction of being actually built instead of remaining on paper, but between the iceberg carrier, submersible cruisers, torpedo battleships, periscope-turret submarines (the British M-class, which had their guns poking out of the water when the submarine was just beneath the surface, allowing for some nice sneak attacks but also dooming the crew when the barrel let water in to the submarine), Canet guns (awesomely powerful, at the cost of firing once per hour) and oversized rafts carrying guns twice their own weight, there was certainly no dearth of competition.

[Anonymous No.]

How to install that translated Kancolle Viewer?
I'm a total beginner at github, i can't even find download button

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764106
5 subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764160
thanks to Iona that wouldn't be much cheaper than going to 1-4 or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764160
sdrv.ms/1hbeYLg

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764159
Meant to quote you.

>>11764164

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764164
>>11764167
Thanks man, Happy New Year too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764158
Will it float? Off to the shipyard with it.

[Anonymous No.]

3.5/3.5/6/6/20 or 4/2/5/7/20 for Taihou? Anyone has the fresh data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764192
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C2%E7%B7%BF%B4%CF%B7%FA%C2%A4
Bookmark this page.
You can tally the comment page yourself if you want fresh stats.

[Anonymous No.]

ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

[Anonymous No.]

this game needs more lewd drops.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764160
Only have 2, 3 if you include Iona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764210
>>11764217
>>>/futuba/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764221
>futuba

/ilbe/ pls go

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764218
make sure to use this event to change that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764210
If you want nurse outfits, just wait until we get battleship Aki or repair ship Akashi. The latter was mentioned in an interview that also foretold Akitsumaru, I think, so there's a fair chance that she at least will be in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764225
I got my 2nd sub from this, I'm mainly focusing on getting I-401 though.

[Anonymous No.]

>(C85)(同人音楽)(艦これ)[帝國交響楽団] 陽はまた昇る
Did you guys download this yet?
Did your E4 nightmare come back listening to track8?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764232
I listened to every kancolle album that were uploaded and all were shit so far.
You need the original one to really remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFACmMAvktM

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of planes should I equip on my carriers?
I don't (yet) see enemy CVs very often, so I'm not currently using any green planes. Are they going to be important later on?
Do torpedo bombers deal more damage than dive bombers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764232
No, because I cheesed it stress-free with sacrificial ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764153
I'd like one please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764243
Green planes make the difference between paying 50 bauxite after resupplying and 500.

[Anonymous No.]

2 Kinu 3 Yuubari 2 Nagato 6 Suzuya 1 Abukuma 4 Zuihou 2 Yuugumo 3 Maikaze 4 Goya later, I finally got her. I think I spent about 20k fuel 25k ammo on E-2 for this to happen, please tell me she's worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764243
>Do torpedo bombers deal more damage than dive bombers?
Only on air raids. During the shelling phase, dive bombers deal more damage. As for greens, do take them when you know there enemy CVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
>I think I spent about 20k fuel 25k ammo on E-2 for this to happen, please tell me she's worth it.
I got her within 2 tries in LSC. So, half of your cost in terms of fuel and ammo. That said, you're probably richer than me in terms of resources despite so many sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
Of course she is, you done good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764243
Green planes on the biggest slot for air superiority
Red planes on the smallest slot
Ryuusei kai on the remaining slot

Basically if you arent getting air superiority, put more green planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
Eh, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
Nice design but the voice ruins it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
uh yeah, worth it, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
>20k fuel 25k ammo
You just spend those resources on the 2nd worst carrier in the game. Should have went for Taihou instead. You can get tons of her from Taihou failures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
Worth it because you get ER from A23. Inferior carrier otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
I also farmed her. Took like 80 runs.
Then got her from my first Taihou attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764248
Don't you love her? That should be enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks everyone, I'll treasure her. Now I'll just need to farm her sister as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764265
Get her with LSC instead. You have an unneeded amount of resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764265
>lvl101
No Zuikaku...
How is this even possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764268
RNG

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764268
Look at my luck. I can get a couple of Nagato and 6 Suzuya but never the ships I want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764268
He also didn't have Shoukaku until now. It happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764269
>>11764270
You must have at least done hundreds+ 5-2 run if you are at 101. 5-2 droplist is pretty much identical to xmas E3 without Iku/Naganami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764164
Any way to see whole fleet in this?
Not just active fleet (1,2,3,4)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764276
I didn't get Nagato until level 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764268
I'm level 57 and I still don't have a Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764276
Same, but instead I'm 40 levels higher than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764280
I got Mutsu at level 98 after ~60 full E-3 runs when I already had 2 Nagatos.
She was the last non-LSC ship I was missing.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish there was a percentage in the ship book so you can spot whether theere are ships/damaged sprites/equipment you're missing.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Ryuujou's voice so fucking good.

[Anonymous No.]

What does Kancolle Viewer actually do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764241
I love this track, but after a loop, I'm getting a PTSD...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764304
Because kansai-ben

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764304
Because statwise she's a useless garbage ship. I'm pretty sure they're doing this on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764307
We really need more Kansai-ben ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764313
That ain't stopping me from attempting to get her to level 100.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764301
I just installed it but it is just improved viewer for API version of Kancolle.
Pic related, you can click on those tabs marked with red to view information

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764316

Any way to stretch the thing? I'm so used to it having it twice that size and can't go back to the default one

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764316
Kind of useful then, I know what most of the daily quests I'm interested in are though and run Kantai on my 2nd monitor so it's doesn't seem like something I would greatly benefit from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764322
Yes, you can drag window, but final size depends on your monitor resolution
You can't adjust main/info window ratio just the whole window
Also, i would like if it showed whole fleet instead of just your active ones and that it showed what quest are your fleet on

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764327
>quests
meant expeditions

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764304
Poor man's Kuroshio, that's why.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we know what the requirements for the Arpeggio furnitures are?

[Anonymous No.]

I get a hard on every time I hear Ryuujou say her name in her introduction line. So fucking good.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this Desire Sensor, I had enough getting Yuugumo and Shoukakus in my dock.

Nagato or Mutsu won't even appear.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who's doing this shit? Sometimes I feel like it's going overboard

[Anonymous No.]

Just farmed my first Isuzu. I've got a long career ahead of me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764409
I'm both impressed and worried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764409
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition#Theoretical_Hourly_Net_Earnings

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764432
I know.
I made this shit to make them easier to compare, and always find the best combination for my current needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764409
I just started my first sheet about LSC, I hope I won't become like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764409
I have a smaller version. Fellow autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764466
>autist
Your resource icons are not even centered in the cell, that really irritates me.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the loading is supposed to be this long?
Playing it at the browser have a faster loading than using the viewer.

I'm using the api link if that makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764478
It's pretty much downloading the cache files all over again (unless you've been using IE as a browser) so it has a first time start-up. It won't take as long to start in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764466
Are sparkled long runs better than non-sparkled short runs?

[Anonymous No.]

After 4 months, I finally got out of the No-Kongou club and unlock my fourth fleet. This took way too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764505
Holy shit there are people that have played for four months without Kongou? She drops like CANDY. Have you not been grinding 3-2-A?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764505
Won't be long till she's at the bottom of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764505
>After 4 months
Do you only play like 10 minutes a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764475
Fuck you for bringing that to my attention. Now I'm moving it by the pixel just to see if it's completely centered.
>>11764499
Maybe, but I'm autistic enough to have enough sparkled ships to send for short runs as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764505
Really? I got my Kongou 2 months after playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764510

I've been farming 3-2 and 4-2 for around a month and a half I think. Keep getting Ise and some other ship.

>>11764512

All day. Everyday

>>11764519

I have really shitty luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764505
Congratulations.
I just need Curry and Mic Check myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764518
Wow, hm... can anyone else answer my question about non-sparkled short runs being equally as good than sparkled long runs then?

[Anonymous No.]

KanColle Viewer r101 supports Win7, right? After launching it nothing happens, only a small process appears that can't even be shut down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764528
theoretical hourly income is one the wiki, just add 50% for sparkled income

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764528
It depends on what you're aiming for. If you want all resources to increase gradually, short runs are the way to go. If you want to maximize fuel and ammo, sparkled long runs are 4x better. Even unsparkled long runs (5, 9, 13) for fuel and ammo are still better than unsparkled short runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764534
Using the hourly rate is better since some might be using expeds to farm up their Isuzus or Yuugumos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764531
>>11764478 here, i'm running it on win7 myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764528
It depends on what resources you need. If it's something like bauxite short runs are better, but if you want fuel and ammo go for long runs to lessen refuel rates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764538
sparkling doesn't effect exp I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764537
5 is such a godly expedition

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764548
Read wiki, pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764537
>>11764466
>>11764409
Holy shit, guys

[Anonymous No.]

Was at 2-3 boss node doing fuel runs. I selected formation and minimized the browser to read the thread and when I looked back I got Imuya. Wasn't expecting that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764542
Win7 here without problems, maybe you don't have requirements?
NET 4.5 maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764542
>>11764586
Rebooting my PC fixed it. Works like a charm now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764586
I installed the Net 4.5.
But damn, this loading is eternal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764466
Is there a way to force yourself to the bauxite node on 4-3?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there something wrong with the resolutiions? KVC r101 has really bad, grainy graphics compared to Flash Projector.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764598
No.
I'm getting there like25% of the time with my sub farming fleet

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764598
I wish. That would make people able to afford to try for Taihou every day.

[Anonymous No.]

Is expedition 5 really that disgustingly overpowered compared to the others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764639
Yes. In terms of net gain, it is.

[Anonymous No.]

What are these things and how do I get them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764661
Furniture fairies. They're purportedly pay-only items, but the developers are rather generous with them, so you can also get them from events (including the current event) and a submarine quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764666
That reminds me... Can i still complete that quest that gives me Stukas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764671
If you read the wiki, you'd know the answer to both of your questions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764673
Yeah, just did that so never mind me.

[Anonymous No.]

Only Akugumo left from event maps now, how easy is she to get from normal maps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764680
She drops regularly 5-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764682
Hmm I see. Might save up resource for Taihou instead of grinding E-1 then.

[Anonymous No.]

After 20 runs in E3, I'm considering dropping the event and keep my resources for LSC. Currently around 17K each, except 25K ammo
I'm only missing Mikuma, but RNG keep trolling me with gold background that reveals to be either ise or fusou class.

Each run take like 250-300 oil as I'm using Nagato / 3 CTL / Zuikaku and Iona, and that's not factoring repair.

I have 6 subs, but frankly, the pre boss node has so many Nagara with the diamond formation that should 2 of them are alive, they start raping my subs if they aren't target Iona, so having S rank on Kongou becomes much more complicated.

So what's your suggestion JP? Should I keep farming E3 regardless or fold up and keep my resources for LSC/midway? .

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764689
>fusou
I obviously meant Kongou class, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764689
Save up resource for LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

Zuikaku loadout for 4-4

Is this fine or should I switch something up? Not much into using CV's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764316
I'd use it but it takes too long to load the pages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764696
Switch your green plane with one of the red plane slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764694
LSC is a permanent feature, yes? Why not just save up resources after the event, or is Midway coming up already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764689
Mikuma might come to you from failed LSC-attempts.

>>11764696
I'd switch 2 and 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764698
No one knows when Midway is, but the nearest possibility is February so it depends if you are confident you can gather enough resource in that time span,

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11764322
you can, by compiling it yourself.

>>11764601
do you run it on high resolution monitor?
KCV don't play nice on high-dpi settings (e.g 125% text size).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764689
Getting a Taihou prepared now if you don't have one already for the next event is much better than still burning it on farming event maps. Mikuma is a drop from LSC anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764712
>you can, by compiling it yourself.
could you make it a configuration parameter like the url link? i can do without it, but would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

Did any of you watch Apreggio? How was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764724
Best tsundere of 2013

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764724
Question is, why haven't you already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764724
better than expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764724
it is an eye cancer because of the FULL CGI (even characaters, so movements are artificial and unnatural at best).

only a few characters are worth noting.

Later half of the series is a bit meh, and after reading the manga, you wonder what they did to the plot.

It is still decent though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764728
I'm usually pretty stingy about CG but it didn't bother me much in this case

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764698
Because this is literally the furthest we'll get from a "next event" in 6 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764726
I watched the first episode but the CGI turned me off. I'm going to give it another try though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764698
Midway is so far away.
I think the priorities should be getting Taihou, then farming levels/holo equipment like a madman. Saving can come after that. You can easily gather 100k of everything in 3 weeks, if you don't progress on maps/farm hard.
If those are done, you can start saving.

A different question though.
I haven't really touched World 5.
Should I do it now with the arpeggio ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764724
It was a fun ride. I didn't see anything wrong with the CG that everyone complains about, and I thought it did fine with the manga for the 12 episodes it had, despite a lot of stuff being cut out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764735
5-1 and 5-2 are pretty doable without arpeggio ships, only 5-3 maybe but that is proved to not be entirely cost efficient either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764733
CGI was kind of a turnoff but it's still pretty good. Always watch at least 3 episodes before dropping an anime.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances of them introducing a Large Equipment Construction option?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764762
wtf is that supposed to give?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764762
low

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764762
Never. 46cm is pretty big already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764747
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fucked, aren't I?

On that note, what does /jp/ use for E-3 farming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764769
You still believe doing that is going to do anything? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764771
6 subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764743
5 subs can do the trick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764768
>>11764767
Maybe new equipment like upgraded steel hull for more armor and hp or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764771
This will happen to you during next event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRmYkA8Ybk

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764767
ranking rewards maybe, s holos such as seiran, shinden and the like.

also there's data for a lot of new items like compass-looking items, some coloured boxes, 4-leaf clovers and so on that could become lec rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764781
I fucking envy the people who can laugh shit like that off.
I would've been raging like an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764584
Well, fuck you. Out of 600+ runs there I never got a single one. Was that an S ranking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764797
Yeah it was S rank.

[Anonymous No.]

how the hell do you kill 6 subs in pvp

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764612
Surprisingly I got another problem.
I am running out of ammo fast of Yamato recipe. I can only afford 1try in 2days. What am I actually doing wrong? Did I sortie too much or something?

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11764721
oh, i never thought about that.

mind trying out this version? i changed KCV to fit your request.
sdrv.ms/1cIswgz

>>11764781
is he the same person as the one who lost kitakami/ooi during E-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764773
3 mandatory battles, one of which is forced ring and another which is 50/50 ring and has a BB in ring?
how does that work for boss farming? you'll be down to 80% power and dodge and probably not even get there with all the damn CLs bombing you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764834
4x Type 3 Sonar, Yuubari
3x Type 3 Sonar, Isuzu, Bep, Agano class

You can also bring one BBV fully equipped with floatplanes so you get two shelling rounds and they can still contribute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764865
I don't have that much type 3s goddamn. Matter of fact, I only have 1, from a Makigumo I found in the last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764872
Craft them maybe, they're pretty cheap but with dev kits being quite in the demand now it's your choice. The recipe usually results in failures though so you probably won't lose too many kits on the useless AA guns.

Just use any ASW equipment, they should work. Though if it's 6 subs and Iona's in it you probably won't S rank it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764882
I have zero dev kits and 90k all resources precisely because I wasted all my dev kits on ASW equipment crafting before I heard about LSC. The craft rate for sonars is abysmal.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11764865
>>11764872
...or using CVL equipped with torpedo bombers. too bad they cannot participate in night battle.

good option for a poor man's ASW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764888
>>11764882
why aren't you guys doing makigumo farm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764891
>...or using CVL equipped with torpedo bombers. too bad they cannot participate in night battle.
Subs are invicible in night battle. Considering said anon is facing an all-subs fleet in PvP, they will adopt Echelon formation which makes it boost their evasion during night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764888
>zero dev kits, 90k all resources
>wasted all on ASW equipment crafting
>only 1 type 3 from Makigumo
wtf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764891
>>11764904
a bbv with 4seiran will almost be as good as yuubari. basically you need 12 shelling attack to kill Iona. even a fully 4xtype3 sonar yuubari do scratch damage to her with normal engagement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693
I don't know how to feel about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764920
Probably better to just accept that rank A and move along.

Iona is pretty much an anti-S rank idle fleet. Had an admiral that just left his fleet as 3 subs + 3 fog ships the entire 12 hours probably just to grief.

[Anonymous No.]

For those who farmed E-2 extensively, have you ever dropped Yuugumo from the first node?
Wikiwiki states so just recently, before it was only from E-2 boss which I don't need at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764939
I didn't even get her from the boss, but it might just be a trolledit.
On the other hand, someone logged ~200 samples of E-3-A and he didn't get a single Naganami, so maybe the drop-rates are just ridiculously low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764939
I did 250+ runs to the boss, never saw yuugumo from any node but the boss. I got 5 Yuugumos from the boss though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764939
>>11764946
I got both on pre boss node I believe, not first node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764845
awesome, it works perfectly

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764950
according to wiki, the first node drops her, too

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips for 5-3? Fleet compositions are more bullshit than what E-4 and E-5 threw at you.

I'm currently running 2DD (double attack + sonars) and 4 double attack CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764958
6 subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764939
I remember getting her from the boss but not the other nodes, probably because I didn't try to S rank them with subs only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764959
I have 5, Iona included

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764958
Finished it with 2DD 1CLT 1CA 2BB before the event.
Line ahead on all nodes and hope to kill the CAs before they can cut-in your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764958
2 BB 2 CA 2 DD, double attack on everyone except DD who are stuffed full of torps, that's the only way they could do damage to anything in the boss node. Make sure it's beaver and PTSD for chance of cut in on other nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764958
just use the fog ships retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764982
you're the retard. Laser doesn't work at night and they're unnecessarily expensive to fleet and repair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764986
Theres a laser cut-in at night.

Cut-in damage on all enemy ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764986
How are they unnecessary if he can't clear it? I'm assuming he already failed a couple times if he's asking for help. Or are you guys all just blogshitting your playthroughs? All 3 fog ships are easly the best of their classes regardless of laser proccing. Also the boss battle is not a night battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764994
where is your video proof?

>>11765002
good luck getting Takao and Haruharu to the boss without one of them eating a cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764700
>>11764704
I was looking at this and I'm not getting something.

What's the advantage of getting green planes in the 2nd slot? Do they not activate if placed in the last slot like Sanshiki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765002
The return on fog ships for 5-3 isn't too great to justify using them rather than your normal fleet instead since they're also prone to eating cut-ins and not surviving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765018
>Do they not activate if placed in the last slot like Sanshiki?
What are you talking about? Sanshiki activates like normal in the last slot

Putting green planes in 2nd slot is so that you have more fighters to continuously gain air superiority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765018
See the little numbers on each slot? Now try to guess what they mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765018
the slots have different plane counts

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765018
What's the point of having planes on a carrier if you're not going to use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765016
>good luck getting Takao and Haruharu to the boss without one of them eating a cut-in.

This is the reason I dont use fog ships. They don't bring enough power with them to justify 1k steel repair bills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765018
Currently >>11764696 has 48 dive bombers and only 12 fighters, this is a bit of an overkill. Swapping second and fourth slot will allow him to balance out between maintaining air superiority and one-shotting ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764712
>do you run it on high resolution monitor?
Sorry for the late reply. My monitor uses 1920x1080. I just tried this version>>11764845
but it doesn't even launch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764078
you can try 2-1, its where i normally grind carriers for the weekly

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764106
It's a lot easier after you destroy the gauge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765161
Unlike E-3

[Anonymous No.]

Futaba is quite literally full of this "ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!" comment.

I'm not sure if I can respect them anymore or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764747
I thought the general concensus on /jp/ about the anime is bad, but the manga is decent/good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765216
You thought there are /jp/ regulars posting in these threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765209
...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765209
I can't tell- whatever, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an image or a webpage with all of the ships listed and pictured?

[Resha !!a7Six4EVOK+ No.]

>>11764845
Musashi and everyone, you probably expected this, but I'm definitely not gonna be working on KCV since I'm being bombarded with my uni final year project + IELTS preparation

Hell, I can even barely play the game anymore these days, this really sucks. Well, at least I managed to get I-401 and I-19 before the event ends.

[Anonymous No.]

All that sparkle

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765276
Level her already for kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765260
There is, if you look carefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765286
That's exactly what I'm doing. She was 29 yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765290
Where did you level her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765307
4-3 sub farming

[Anonymous No.]

Did the magic taiho recipe give any Nagatos or was that only with Yamato recipes?

[m No.]

I started writing a wiki LSC report log parser today,
it is a little different than the japs data maybe because I parsed some faggot reports too (空きドッグ and such).
Colors are based on the total tries with that recipe,
there may be some errors, but I can improve it in the future and post other ships data if it is usable and people are interested.
Initial Taihou results on pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765472
Neat. Will you make one for Yamato?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765472
I'm very interested, please keep going

[m No.]

>>11765479
Colors are useless here, but this is more like the wiki rates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765262
That sucks, was looking forward to your horizontal version of KCV because the vertical one wont fit in my screen and looks bad.

And of course, I wish you good luck on your project and stuff, hope everything goes well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765472
>>11765491
These ratios are highly optimistic. Cut them in half to get the more realistic rates.

[m No.]

>>11765496
I did not calculate in the fairies modifying the rates when you really want a ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765491
>6000/5000/7000/2000/100
I-is that a trap, the percent is too good to be true.

[m No.]

Mikuma chances are not really nice,
I will try to make better graphs and put all in one picture next time.

[m No.]

>>11765514
That had 61 samples which is not really significant, next time it will be more red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765514
If you want a better chance go for the one with 17%

[Anonymous No.]

Would be nice if you could group them by recipe.

[Anonymous No.]

What level should be destroyers be for 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765518
Can you do Akitsumaru as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763693

やりました

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765556
How much do you want to rely on luck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765568
I've been pretty lucky so far. But, I'd prefer to get through the map without too much trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765209
Maybe you should lurk more. ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!! is the default text for image-only posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765576
I've heard 30+, fully modernized

[m No.]

>>11765558
This one doesn't really seem bound to specific recipes.

>>11765545
I will try a stacked bar graph soon if you mean that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765576
A fleet of remodeled DDs (ie level 20) with full modernization can do it with some luck.
I actually like my DDs, so I went at it with an average level of 60, with 5 second remodel DDs and it was easy, though.

So it's really your choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765616
5 second remodel DDs?
But you only have Shigure, Yuudachi and verny

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765616
What did you equip them with? A friend of mine told me just equip them with torpedos. But, I'd rather get opinions from better admirals before I try the map.

[Resha !!a7Six4EVOK+ No.]

>>11765495
I reckon Musashi can do it, the only thing he needs to do is copy paste 1 file from my previous code, which should (SHOULD) work just fine even with latest version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765601
I wish her chance is a little bit more. I want to have the 20% boost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765622
Oops. And Shimikaze and Yukikaze. I meant the 5...best DDs, I guess you'd say. Sort of slipped my mind Yukikaze and Shimikaze aren't second remodels.

>>11765623
I've also heard torpedoes and all of them work fine, but I went for double attack setup and just went to night against the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11763260
>Mikuma
I am without Mikuma after 3 months of playing this game. I didn't get any of the crane sisters or Nagato until today.

I lost a ton of mats too. I was at around 80k/130k/100k/98k before LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765648
China dress beaver when? I want her to get that second remodel

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765653
How did you get all those resources and how did you get all the subs to 99 if you don't mind me asking?
My subs are currently at 80 and they take forever to level up.
With resources, im struggling to make 3k fuel/steel a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765653
>180 ships max
>817 equips max
You must really love your ship daughters

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765653
I got Mikuma while farming rankings on 5-2. It was totally unexpected as I've already given up on getting her from E-3 (she was the last ship drop I needed from the event).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765601

>7.1%

I must be extremely lucky then, having gotten 3 from 4 Taiho crafts, and Taiho is suppose to have the higher chance too.
Maybe I'm blessed with 15

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765665
You can't be stopped with resource gathering once you roll subs. I do 2-3 all day every day with my subs, and now that I have more Goya and Imuya than I know what to do with... rotation is possible now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765678
But I do 2-3 with Imuya and goya every day and the only thing going up is my fuel and ammo.
Always takes a lot of time and effort for me to get my steel up by like 2-3k and I dont even bother with bauxite, I have to rely on natural regen and quests for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765689
subs don't eat much steel or bauxite, how don't you gain it from expeditions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765678
Do you run them solo (if yes, how do you handle win-rate for events) or 2/3 subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765694
I do expeditions 3, 5 and 17 to try to get my steel up, was doing 2, 4 and 9 before for buckets.

Tried farming 3-2 for steel with subs because I dont want to refresh and didnt work out, my subs get damaged on the first or second run and SSV repair times are huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765695
I actually do 4x sub runs. I do the missions with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765695
Well, if you sortie a lot on 1-1 for sparkle, you won't have to bother with your winrate that much, unless you lose like 1k battles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765725
What about fatigue?
Someone always ends up fatigued if I go 4x subs, usually I-401 but I dont have to deal with that if I do duo subs.

[Anonymous No.]

Fog Takao's 3:00 line is pretty bold. To the level where I was a bit unsure that I it was a dream or an actual line. I just discovered that a transcript is on wikia.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you clear 3-4? Someone suggested 5 subs, but one of my subs always goes into red either in the first or second node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765732
just have to do more grinding then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765752
See, with 1k loses you have about 90% win rate. Aren't events unlocked only for 85% or more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765756
>losses
I ate up an 's'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765756
Wasn't it 75%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765760
Oh really? Then it's all good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765748
Their voices are so good, I want them to have as secretaries forever but they take a ton of resources to supply and repair so I cant, its sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765774
I'll be so sad when they get removed.
Especially since I watched the anime because of this event, and they grew on me even more. Especially that tsundere heavy cruiser

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone had success just grinding E-3-A? It seems really easy even with 4/5 subs.

Or has everyone been doing all of E-3? I'm still not quite sure what kind of fleet you use for E-3, 3 CLT, 3 Subs?

I'm mainly looking for Mutsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765835
I spammed first node with 5 subs to get Naganami and dropped in 10 runs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765835
someone logged ~200 E-3-A runs on the wiki.
he got several Mutsu with S-ranks there.

No idea about an efficient fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope the next event drops Maruyu so I can start farming them.

You can't say you truly love your ship waifu unless her luck is 100.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765867
someone knows if there is a cap on luck yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765870

Even if somebody managed to max luck on a ship, we wouldn`t know if the cap varies from ship to ship.

[Anonymous No.]

Levelling up Kiso to level 65 is suffering, but a necessary pain

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765867
Until you get a fourth maruyu, you're better off putting them in an expedition team. They've got the lowest resource consumption in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Been slowly progressing in my E-2 farming. Got about 3 of 6 missing ships. Remaining is Nagato, Zuiho, and something else I forgot about but I looked it up earlier and saw it was one of my missing ships. Will probably hit 35 on I401 before I find those two though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765880
I'm about to hit 54.
How are you doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765880

If you ever leveled a ship intentionally to 70+, even 80+, 65 is nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765880
>>11765897
Is there a faster way to level her up using world 4/5 or should I stick to 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765901
Jesus, are you doing it on 3-2?
Go to 4-3 and farm subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765897
I'm 51 right now. I've been trying to level her up religiously for few days or a week already

At least abusing steel node at 3-2 gives good exp to her

>>11765900
No 80+ but actually, all my Kongou class ships are 75+, but 65 still feels like a faraway journey though

>>11765901
5-2 is apparently good, although I'm not sure about that, judging by the fact the first node has yellow CA ships and all of them are at least elite

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765909
Yeah, I've heard that 5-2 is good for training but im not sure how to use it for training/farming when all the enemies look pretty tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765901
Got mine to 65 in 2 days sub hunting in 4-3, just stack her with depth charges and sonar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765880
Kiso is nothing, getting MVP with her is simple.

Now, Hibiki on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765915
Exactly my thought. I'm guessing what they did was trainng only 1 ship and put it as a flagship, and everyone else are powerful ship murderer like KTKM and/or carriers.

I might be wrong though, so people who actually 5-2 probably gonna yell at me if what I think is wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765904
>>11765916
>farm subs
Do you mean looking for subs or stacking the fleet with them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765927
Hunting sub enemies, filling their insides with your big depth charges for lots of experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765916
Yo, mind telling what ships did you use for that? I got Goya and Imuya already, but I can use change of scene for once at least.

>>11765925
Heh, my Hibiki is already a Russian, thankfully. So my suffering for Hibiki is over already

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765927

>stack her with depth charges and sonar

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765927
Looking for. You're guaranteed to land on 2 sub nodes, is Kiso is flagship + MVP, it's like 1180 exp / node.
You also have a chance to land on J, which can rape you if the odds are against you, but it's extra exp. And you also have a chance to land on the bauxite node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765931
I'm trying to do both simultaneously. I'm not sure what I was thinking...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765938
Nah man, it's normal to level up 2 ships at once. Especially if 3-2 is your training ground. Hell, I'm even training 3 ships right now in 3-2 while abusing steel node

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god Makigumo can't be good for my heart, especially when she is crying when I send her to repair

[Anonymous No.]

Oh wow, my server is so laid back that I'm actually a vice admiral right now.
Is there any good way to farm rank points if I don't have 5-2 unlocked? I've got 3-2 and 4-4 max.

[m No.]

>>11765545
Would something like this be usable?

I'm going to improve the parsing tomorrow, there is still a lot of unparsed reports.
This one is based on 14553 samples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765970
this is very nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765970

So completely minimalist LSC craft has 10% Yahagi drop?

This is awesome news. I was worried about my dev mat stores.

[m No.]

>>11766000
It may be that people only report the good results and not when they do 5*Tone with the minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765970
What's missing on that bar chart is the "Everything else", Suzuya and Kumano. Maybe Nagato and Mutsu as well? I mean, those are the noticable one

[Anonymous No.]

I get to the boss node in 2-3 three times in a row already when I just need the damn transport ships first. God damn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766016
But everyone has Suzuya after this event

[m No.]

>>11766016
Well, then the cranes, Zuihou and maybe Kaga, etc. it would get crowded so I only added the LSC-only ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765970
This is some desire sensor bullshit.
I got another boat instead of yamato. How do I cheat the system and let them think I want Maruyu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766027
Easy, double cheat the desire sensor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11765880
I got 3-6 levels every day (from 32 to 65) taking it easy, just doing PVP matches and the killing subs daily.

[Anonymous No.]

Ooi, why are you so fucking hard to get when your sister ship KTKM is so much better than you in everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766064
Just level your Kiso and forget about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764307
Some call it fake. But it's still good.

>>11764314
>level 100
Marrying her?

>>11764336
Clear event, don't sink any of them.

>>11764505
Good job. I got my Kongou last week while farming 2-3 for fuel. At the boss node. (And I started playing early last month...)

>>11764512
It's called RNG. Fucking RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766026
5 Shoukakus and no Suzuyas yet. Still working on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766026
I've been farming E-3 for Kumano, but I haven't seen her yet. I didn't see any Suzuya in my E02 farming for Zuihou as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764840
>running out of ammo
Your problem is unique.

>>11764966
Will 5 subs work for 5-3?

>>11765623
All double attack setup except for Shigure K2 and Yukikaze, those 2 get cut-in setup instead.

[Anonymous No.]

How rare are repair teams? I got to 3-2 with subs and want to start leveling my other ships but if I don't put my Goya as the flag ship then I'm worried RNG might kill her if I get very unlucky. I only have 1 repair team that I got from crafting Imuya so I'm wondering if it's rare enough that I should save it for world 5 or the something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766245
Common as fuck and totally useless.
I didnt use any at all after E4 after realizing the sinking mechanism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766245
>RNG might kill her if I get very unlucky
Some anon will correct me if I'm wrong but I've always thought that having one of your kanmusu die was due to supidity rather than bad luck since they couldn't sink unless they entered the combat with heavy damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766258
I used two to beat 5-3 because I didn't want to blow a fucking try just because one of my DD were shot to red on the pre-boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766245
If you only do 3-2 A, it`s impossible to sink her unless you forget to repair between sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766245
This is why you learn how the game works before you cheat your way through it. Grinding at 3-2 shouldn't even make it possible to sink anyone. After things got sorted out last event you're a failure of an admiral if you're even put in a position where you need repair gear. If you don't advance to a new node in critical damage nothing is ever going to sink her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766245
How is the FAQ section not updated yet to answer this question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766270
You'd want repair gears if you're sick of that one or two ships forcing you to retreat just because they're heavily damaged.

[Anonymous No.]

I want a Zuikaku

[Anonymous No.]

What's with the raffle to join? Surely Kancolle is making more than enough income to add a few more servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766393
>making more than enough income to add a few more servers.
Not with almost f2p system. They were even forced three times to close membership application due to server problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766393
It isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766393
This is a f2p game with no p2w system

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766421
>>11766401
Hmm, well I'm surprised that they haven't tried to monetize it yet. Not that I'm complaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766427
They already did. The DMM CEO reportedly said that he doled out 500 yen on all 999 construction...

he was really surprised that a non-adult game can hit it off that big on DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766498
this game is clearly for adults
all the gambling, the addiction, the lewdness, and so on

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766507
>lewdness
I BEG YOUR PARDON? There's no act of sex in this game, compared to big games in DMM like LoW or PPS

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766511
the whole strip-down part of getting damaged is lewd. what else would you call it?
I said lewd, not PORN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766518
I might have been reading too much ero lately and automatically assumed lewd=porn, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766498
Whoever pays for construction is asking for it. Kancolle's making money not from the game itself, but from merchandise.
>all 999 construction
What'd he get?

>>11766507
>>11766518
That kind of stuff's all ages in Japan, unless I'm mistaken.

>>11766511
Sure. Iku, Kisaragi...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766427
they are purposefully avoiding monetizing the game which is one reason it got so popular so fast, no p2w bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766525
>What'd he get?
Probably Chitose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766525
all ages yes, but the people who will buy lots of merchandise and get super addicted are the adults

is it just me or is capcha getting worse and worse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766498
Whoever pays for construction is asking for it. Kancolle's making money not from the game itself, but from merchandise.
>all 999 construction
What'd he get?

>>11766507
>>11766518
That kind of stuff's all ages in Japan, unless I'm mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766529
I'm surprised it's not Naka-chan.

>>11766530
Probably just you. Captcha's fine on my side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766535
We had a short 999 challenge back then in /a/. The only lucky get was a Shokaku while the rest was Hiyous and Chitose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766542
Wait, you mean to say that no one got Naka?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else think her shoes/feet look really out of place?
She's my favorite CL but I really hate the way here feet look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766547
I'm starting to think Naka-chang ain't Naka-chang anymore. I get more Mogami trying to spam 250/30/250/30

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766547
That was a few months back so I don't remember the details but if someone got a Naka, the thread will invariably lose its shit so I don't think anybody got a Naka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766546

It's probably the perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766550
I don't get Naka much from that kind of recipe and she's still treated as being ridiculously common so I don't think that's it.

>>11766554
Or maybe all max recipe removes the chance of her coming up altogether?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766546
They look like hooves, but I don't think that was what's bothering you.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it, that's the third Junyou in a row from the 4/2/5/7 20 recipe. I just want my Taihou so I can take it easy for midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766579
I thought you need CarDiv1 and CarDiv2 for midway event...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766591
I don't think they'd be sadistic enough to force you to use only specific CVs. Then again the past event did force you to use Kongou-class so it's possible they'd pull off the same shit again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766591
I think they are going to allow shortcuts like the previous event so having those in CarDiv1 and 2 will just make the sortie shorter. I wonder whether Hiryuu will get a second remodel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766610
They're going to force 6 CV/CVL to advance and they're going to put subs so that CVLs will have their use. Better get those ASW helis ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766610
>Then again the past event did force you to use Kongou-class
Only for shortcuts. The event is still doable without Kongou-class ships.

>I don't think they'd be sadistic enough
The devs are gods powered by our tears and frustration. They need us to suffer so that they could live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766579
JUNYOU DESU! YAHOOOOOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766622
it's hyahha you baka gayjin

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766622
>>11766579
Does anyone have that picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766624

I bet it's the same fag who calls fuel gas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766622
it's Hyahha, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766626
I call it Bunker Fuel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766610
I would be absolutely astonished if they didn't make you use the Nagumo fleet for the Midway event.

[Anonymous No.]

6H timer and it's a Shoukaku. Eugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766645
I am missing that crane...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766623
This?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766649
I wish I could give her to you, it's my 3rd Shoukaku and I just wanted a Zuikaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766650
Yeah, this one, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766645
>>11766649
Also, if you're curious about the recipe I used it was 330/430/530/430.
Be warned that I got two destroyers and an Abukuma before Shoukaku so it's no promise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766622
>>11766624
Am I the only one who shouts "hyaha" along with Junyou whenever she drops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766656
wasn't this the miracle recipe last month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766660
Yeah, it was. I got my first Shoukaku from it, my second as an E-2 drop and my third being built right now is from it. I also got my first Zuiho from it, so it's been a promising recipe for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766663
I had to try 10+ to finally get Shoukaku from it. I guess this is a strong case of YMMV

[Anonymous No.]

龍驤や！

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766670
Getting a holo you want after ten tries is actually pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766673
Isn't the holo Zuikaku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766645
Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766677
Oh, I didn't even realize she was only gold. I've made a hundred aircraft carriers by now, I have a Zuikaku and a Zuihou but no Shoukaku.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any historical reason why CVL can attack subs but CV can't? Naively speaking, both types launch planes after all.

[Anonymous No.]

I sunk my Guncannon-chan
I failed as an admiral, didn't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766738
Guncannon-chan?

[Anonymous No.]

What composition/map did you guys use when leveling Kiso to make her get MVP consistently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766738
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766738
She shouldn't have survived WW2 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766742
5-1 sub node. A full ASW fleet with a BBV if you really want to get a consistent S-rank. Kiso fully equipped with the greatest ASW equipment while the rest with basic depth charge. Some ships would need radar to reduce the effect of the whirlpool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766742
4-3 equipped with 2 type 3 depth charges and a type 3 sonar. 2 CL 1 DD (with sonar only) 1 BB 1 CVL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766740
Who has cannons on her shoulder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766751
Like 30 different ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766753

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

who is the one requesting an English version of logbook in the last thread?

the English version would be done in a few days if anybody is willing to help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766756
Oh. She wasn't Kai 2, was she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766760
Shit I want this. What kind of help do you need?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766756
You should've stuck 2 damecons on her like I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766767
>2
Why would you ever need two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766767
I wasn't the anon that sunk her, Shigure is the flagship of my heart and would never put her in danger.

I just wanted to post that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

Since you guys are talking about her, what do I put on her for cut-ins at Kai2? Standard 2 main + torp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766719
I don't know for the IJN, but for the USN CVs- and CVLs too- did not carry ASW munitions on board. And the Avengers in VT squadrons did not have radar.
The VC composite squadrons served on CVEs on the other hand had radar and radio recievers for sonobuoys on their Avengers but they did not carry the Mk13 anti ship torpedo on board only the small Mk24 Fido ASW torpedo. Most CVEs did not even have handling facilities for anti-ship torpedos, which were liquid fueled and could not be stored in a ready to use condition. They had to be fueled and their warheads attached in a torpedo workshop, then lifted to the hanger deck for loading on aircraft by a special elevator.
The little Mk24 ASW torpedo was not much larger than a 1000 lb bomb and was electric powered. It could be delivered and stored in ready to launch condition.
I know the IJN didn't use carriers much to fight subs, they only built a couple CVE's and tended to use them as aircraft transports and when used as escorts they carried fighters to protect convoys from air attack and few multi-seat aircraft that would be useful for sub hunting.
The Japanese also never fielded a aircraft radar for a single engine aircraft, which may in part be why

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766767
Meant to reply to >>11766738

>>11766769
Needed 2 DDs to clear 4-4, needed to kill subs on the way, not enough depth charges, needed a damecon to play it safe, literally nothing better to put than another damecon.

So it was more of a might-as-well equipment than anything else.

>>11766770
Yeah, I quoted the wrong post.

>>11766772
Torps will do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766770
OP here
I still believe it was just a bad dream

[Anonymous No.]

Is kancolle japanese army propaganda?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766772
No, mixed cut-in does less damage. You may as well use double attack.

Back in E-4 to E-7 I ran Yukikaze with 10 green and 2x torps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766774
So just full on triple torp? Sounds like a broken cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766776
You mean Japanese Navy propaganda?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766777
Oh I didn't know that. I'll have to keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766778
>Sounds like a broken cut-in.
That's the point. Her 50 luck is not for show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766778
You can put a gun there if you want her to shoot planes. 10cm green works and doesn't interfere with torpedo cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766776
Is cawadooty US army propaganda?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766792
well, duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766778
2 torps + something else. The 3rd slot is up to you, it depends on the situation.

For max cut-in damage put a 3rd torp.
If there's a fleet with subs put depth charge or sonar.
Against carriers use any AA gun she can equip, except for the 10 cm main gun.
If you want to play it safe add a damecon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766772
I put 53cm and 2xquint on Yukikaze for E7
You can never have enough.

>>11766738
How bad do you need to be sink a miracle ship?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766792
Yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766776
Maybe but it's not really good at it since it just made me look up historical events and realize how vastly superior MURRIKA was against these dirty tojo freedum opressors

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766798
>How bad do you need to be sink a miracle ship?
24 January 1945 bad, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766763
And then he didn't answer.
>>11766760
I'm asking the same.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11766763
>>11766811
for now, translate the jp text into english if you can.

ship names: http://pastebin.com/AATT1P2H
expedition map: http://pastebin.com/ac4ReVNL

for the ship name, use the ship type abbreviation (e.g DD, CL, BB).
please don't use machine translation in translating the expedition map names.

post the result in pastebin, i'll be checking the thread once in a few hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766796
10cm green can be equipped and pure torpedo cut-in will still proc. The english wiki's article is misleading. I didn't know too until someone on /jp/ told me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766819
If that is true, then is it really a main cannon? Sounds more like a secondary cannon to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766816
Alright, I'm starting with those ship names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766824

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766824
>is it really a main cannon?
It's like you don't lurk /jp/ at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766816
>>11766826
Oh wait, should I translate both the kanji and the hiragana names? Since they are the same name, I don't know how it would appear on sanaechan.
>Fubuki (Fubuki) DD
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766828
>>11766829
Yeah, I'm starting to doubt it already.

Unless 2 torps 1 main procs torps only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766832
2xtorp 1x10cm
put torp as your first slot so that you can still shoot torp if your cut-in failed
I myself go with pure torps. AA is never a problem once you maxed AA modernization and go with 46cm on your BB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766835
For some reason I have this impression that AA won't work as well unless you put AA guns.

Yeah, I'm mistaken, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766836
Using a 4 sub fleet without Hachi and without any planes, I've had my subs shoot down 2 out of 3 airplanes on occasion. It doesn't happen every time, but you can definitely shoot down airplanes without AA guns.
Also the 46cm Red is an AA gun, it'll shoot down planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766835
Back in E-7 every one of my ships had an AA gun, even KitaOoi, and the boss node could still crit one ship to orange or red due to the sheer amount of enemy planes (3 armored princesses 3 floating fortresses). I considered the extra 60+ AA well worth the insignificant damage loss, although that of course was a soecial case. Other maps may have less AA-intensive needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766839
You're a retard anon-san.

Go read info on flagships and AA.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11766831
translate both of them.

same as you, i still don't know where sanaechan would put the hiragana names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766836
I used to run 2x10cm on my CLTs when I grind 5-2. When I changed over to 2x20.3cm(no3), I do not feel the difference at all during the air combat phase.
I guess forward sliding motion do actually contribute in shooting down planes but how much? 1plane?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766842
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766844
Didn't you read that 20.3cms don't give the same amount of bonus when equipped onto CLs as compared to CAs? 15.5cm secondaries pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766843
I don't know how to translate some Expeditions, but here's most of it:
http://pastebin.com/g57r18hZ

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766871
Not implemented yet

[Anonymous No.]

Give it to me gay, is the Ju-87C worth doing these extremely long expeditions?

[Anonymous No.]

What's Taihou's class code again? CVB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766887
If you're not having the best of luck in crafting 12A, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766892
I haven't really had amazing luck, although I did manage to craft ONE recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766887
If you're doubting yourself then you might not want it that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766890
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Glossary#Class_classification

Sometimes, spending 5 minutes to look at the wiki will make you less irritating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766898
Well, the usual place wasn't updated.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766887
Just do it.
You can get spare Iku, Goya and Imuya easily and you can sent them with the useless I401.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766887
We call that Stuka, right? Anyway, it's somewhere between a Suisei and a Suisei 12A. Just get some Maruyu and spare subs for the expedition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766901
>>11766902
My concern right now is I've got Expedition 25 unlocked, so I'll have to go through all the 40 hour and 80 hour expeditions leading up to Expedition 30. The resources don't really look too promising for the time put in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766802
Murrika is the Wo ships and they're bad if not worse than the kanmusus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766905
You need to do the 48hours expedition twice.
It is just 4days. I think you get a repair hammer out of it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766905
They aren't but you never know when the devs will add in more expedition that requires you to complete everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766911
>repair hammer
They changed the buckets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766905
Expedition 27 isn't unlocked by doing Expedition 25 and 26 though.

[Anonymous No.]

RJ is so popular
When is she getting a kai2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766916
What is it unlocked by then? I'm too stupid to find the page that has all the expedition progression.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766914
Buckets?
You get it by completing the first quest, the second quest net you the stuka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766919
Why are Chitochiyo so lewd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766920
I don't remember either, maybe it was A25.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766924
Only good for porn just like the 5th cardiv sluts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766816
Ship names: http://pastebin.com/RSNpEPja
Only a few are left, I'm sleeping now.

[Anonymous No.]

How paranoid are you guys now?
http://otakomu.jp/archives/34393.html
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22585123
This guy Haruna went from 22 to 6 inbetween node?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766938
Graphical bug apparently. You can see the same shit happening to the enemy's fleet too; sometime the damage taken by the enemy's fleet is more than what it's stated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766938
Clearly a test run for the new minefield mechanic that damages your ships randomly in between nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766947
I laughed and proceeded to hug myself in terror.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766946
If it is graphical bug, can KCV helps?

[Anonymous No.]

www

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766957
It's been like that for a while now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766957
Welcome to 3 months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766954
Perhaps? My post >>11766946 is wrong though. I watched it again and the damage was calculated correctly. Even if it's a rounding error, it's ridiculous (22->6). I think the nico comment had somebody stating that it could be a rounding error because it's very near 'major damage' state.

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone is interested, I put up my fork of KanColleViewer with logging:

https://github.com/taihou/KanColleViewer

If you check the box under other settings, it will log all crafting and sortie results to log.txt. It's just a basic comma separated list. For items it logs result, flagship class, and resources. For shipbuilding it logs result and resources. For drops it logs the drop, map name, area name, and ranking.

It's forked from the main repo, so if you want it in an English version, someone will have to merge the changes over.

[Anonymous No.]

After weeks of grinding for and trying to craft Ooi, I finally got Shimakaze. Time to go to 3-2 to grind her up I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

So what kancolle material did you love out of the C85 so far ?

I really like the CD 女神の口づけを, and "that" fatalpusle doujin - for some reason, I felt a bit less hate toward women in this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766954
From my experience in sanaechan, the sequence of data updates during sortie seems to be:
1)after you choose formation
2)after battle ends (day/night battle)
3)before you choose to advance or retreat

I believe there was deviation between (2) and (3) that made that damage difference
at >>11766938 . (3) is the most updated data from server before you advance to new node, so if you see no problem like fatigue or health at that time, there should be no problem after that.

[Anonymous No.]

When will there be a submarine boss? Albacore would make a nice enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay I'm sitting on 1.5k fuel and steel because i went nuts over lsc. I'm spamming expedition 2,5,9 is this the best way to recover fuel? Just wanna make sure I have enough for midway event and enough to farm my ships for midway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766988
Expedition 2 is not a good way to recover fuel. Spamming sparkled 5, 9 and 13 is best. If you don't want to sparkle there's always the choice to do 3, 5 and 17. Always sparkle 5 though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766988
Sparkle 5-9-13 and 3-2 steel farm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766989
>>11766990
Not that anon, but sparkling actually affects expeditions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766992
No, it doesn't. It's a waste of time and anyone who says otherwise are lying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766992
It affects amount of please read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766992
It's just placebo effect. People think sparkles increase the resources gained but we all know it's totally dependent on RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11764135
1937-1945. Actually, even before I'm getting there I'm reading a lot about the Taishou and early Showa period. The story of how Japan ended up at Pearl Harbor is really really long.

>>11766984
I'm going to wait and then download a ton of it at once. Except for 女神の口づけを, Yuuhei Satellite (well, Katharsis) can never wait.

So was there anything to it other than endless fleet rape? Twist ending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766992
Of course it doesn't. I mean, if we knew we'd surely have told you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766871
So what's the actual amount?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11766997
Japan's greatest undoing is to let Tsushima's victory get into their heads. The subsequent development of the militarists taking over the Japanese diet under the blessings of the nobility would see Japan over-commit itself in China theater (Manchukuo in itself would've been manageable, but they've bitten far more than they could chew)

By the time of WW2, the Japanese empire was already too overburdened to sustain itself. It really makes me wonder why was it that the Imperial Japanese Army couldn't just live with the fact that it's stupid to keep tossing men into the Chinese interior when they should consolidate their holdings instead...

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>>11767005
It's really a stupid story. They never intended to bite off that much. Nobody in Tokyo or IGHQ did, even. In fact a lot of it is just field commanders being total retards and Tokyo not being able to back down. They also massively misunderstood the Chinese and American mentality (and the Chinese misunderstood the Japanese just as much).

>It really makes me wonder why was it that the Imperial Japanese Army couldn't just live with the fact that it's stupid to keep tossing men into the Chinese interior when they should consolidate their holdings instead...
They wanted Chiang Kai-Shek to surrender or force him to the peace table by inflicting victory after victory.

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>>11767013
But the facts were that the Japanese forces failed to really extract resources from the coastal provinces, as they had intended, precisely because they give little way for Chiang to have any breathing space whatsoever. Between him, the communists and Japan, he had no choice but to use the KMT meat grinders endlessly, cause the Japanese army wasn't acting benevolent in any way...

had the Japanese army offer to deal with Mao once and for all for Chiang, things may have been different, but no...

[Anonymous No.]

22k resources later and several dozens of E3 clear, I only have a Naganami for show... 2 Iku, 1 Mutsu (lol,) no Mikuma and no crane.

This game really reads your mind in some mysterious ways. Sigh. Anyone feeling this way?

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>>11767037
No, I've been reading these threads for months and I don't think I've ever seen anyone complaining about not getting the ship they want.

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesn't Mutsu have hourlies? Is she not popular enough? She's my favorite battleship.

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>>11767041
Because Mutsu is not that rare, and she has bad luck. Nobody wants to get close to her turret.

Nagato is the flagship of many admirals' hearts. Sorry, but she's just that good.

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>>11767046
Taihou has less luck, and there are a lot of less rare, less loved ships with hourly lines.

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>>11767047
Can't argue with that. Hiei isn't as lovely as Mutsu for one.

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>>11767047
Taihou is the best CV though and has Fumikane design going for her. Besides luck has zero impact on day battle performance.
Mutsu isnt even the best BB in her own class.

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>>11767051
When the only other ship in your class has 30 luck to your 5, of course you aren't the best ship in the class. I still think Mutsu is more attractive than Nagato and once I start raking in more Maruyus I'll be fixing her luck.
All that said, does Nagato have hourlies? The wiki doesn't have any for her and I'd find it strange if neither of the best non-event battleships in the game have hourlies.

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>>11767032
They had been cooperating in anti-Communist activity for a while, but lots of events put a damper on that. Chiang figured Japan was going to carve out yet another piece of China - the industrial centers of Beijing and Tianjin - and cast the die for war.

At the very beginning, they weren't looking for territorial expansion (like they had over the course of the last few decades) because they were busy gearing up for war with the Soviet Union. It was not their intent to invade all of China - they wanted a quick victory and a peace without significant territorial expansion, not a huge fucking mess. But then Chiang deliberately opened a second in China, expanding the conflict beyond north China along, and someone had to go along, sack Nanjing and rape/murder everyone in it (because taking the capital was supposed to end the war), and peace became a lot harder. Instead of surrendering, they moved the capital to the impregnable fortress of Sichuan.

Chiang Kai-shek refused to negotiate with the Japanese unless they promised to withdraw to 1937 borders, which the Japanese flatly refused. If both sides had sought peace earnestly they could have had it. Unfortunately, Chiang Kai-shek didn't trust the Japanese worth a shit (understandably, as they'd been systematically undermining China for decades with everything from inciting rebellion to outright assassination). And the Japanese military refused to make any preliminary concessions (ceasing aerial bombing, unconditionally withdrawing) to demonstrate that Japan earnestly sought peace - their credibility had been thoroughly shot for a while.

The people who sought peace were left looking like retards with nothing to show, because the military blocked any earnest offers and nobody was going to trust them without it.

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>>11767063
Is any remixes being uploaded other than 女神の口づけを?

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>>11767032
They had been cooperating in anti-Communist activity for a while, but lots of events put a damper on that. Chiang figured Japan was going to carve out yet another piece of China - the industrial centers of Beijing and Tianjin - and cast the die for war.

At the very beginning, they weren't looking for territorial expansion (like they had over the course of the last few decades) because they were busy gearing up for war with the Soviet Union. It was not their intent to invade all of China - they wanted a quick victory and a peace without significant territorial expansion, not a huge fucking mess. But then Chiang deliberately opened a second front in Shanghai, expanding the conflict beyond north China alone. Then someone had to go along, sack Nanjing and rape/murder everyone in it (because taking the capital was supposed to end the war), and peace became a lot harder. Instead of surrendering, they moved the capital to the impregnable fortress of Sichuan.

Chiang Kai-shek refused to negotiate with the Japanese unless they promised to withdraw to 1937 borders, which the Japanese flatly refused. If both sides had sought peace earnestly they could have had it. Unfortunately, Chiang Kai-shek didn't trust the Japanese worth a shit (understandably, as they'd been systematically undermining China for decades with everything from inciting rebellion to outright assassination). And the Japanese military refused to make any preliminary concessions (ceasing aerial bombing, unconditionally withdrawing) to demonstrate that Japan earnestly sought peace - their credibility had been thoroughly shot for a while.

The people who sought peace were left looking like retards with nothing to show, because the military blocked any earnest offers and nobody was going to trust them without it.

>>11767063
There's also albums by Pizuya's Cell, COOL&CREATE, and 羽っ鳥もさく共和国 up in the C85 upload thread.

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>>11767066
Go check the C85 upload thread. It's on /jp/.

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>>11767068
The way how the army and the navy did not act with cohesion also fucks with the Japanese war effort enormously. If we look at industrial productivity in Japanese holdings of Korea and Taiwan, it is clear that Japan would have been able to get more than enough resources had they allow the time to get the infrastructures up and going, but guess what? Building infrastructures require coordination of naval and ground assets, as well as having a consolidated view on how the empire was to grow. The navy and the army couldn't ever get their ego in check and focus on even a single task at hand...

(it's utterly pathetic. Too bad we won't see 2ch toshiakis coming here and give their 2 cents, as it's filthy gaijin talking shit about their ancestors...)

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>>11767056
The new ships came with hourly lines but the old ships don't, even such flagship ships like Akagi and Shimakaze. I think ChitoChiyo are the only ships with a number below 100 to have hourly lines.

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>>11767075
Lets be realistic, they were doom from the start after they got amerifats involved. I would probably be speaking moon and going to jap school if they didnt.

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>>11767078
They were doomed when Americans and the British see that it's to their benefit to choke Japan off of oil. The American and British interests in the Pacific were threatened by Japan really, so it would make sense to make sure that Japan starve on oil, and would play "nice" with the big boys across the pond...

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>>11767078

Actually, if they were a bit more lucky and realized their holdings in Manchuria contained huge oil fields they could've avoided taking them from the Britbongs and angering Murrica as a direct result.

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>>11767075
> If we look at industrial productivity in Japanese holdings of Korea and Taiwan, it is clear that Japan would have been able to get more than enough resources had they allow the time to get the infrastructures up and going, but guess what?
If they had allowed the time to get everything prepared for a big war, they probably could have done significantly better than they did. Marco Polo happened just as the army was in the middle of a reorganization campaign.

Enough resources to crush China maybe, but to win a war with the United States? No matter how well the army and navy coordinated it would still have been impossible to win a total war with America - maybe they could have bloodied the USA enough for them to go home like with Vietnam but Pearl Harbor pretty much took that off the table (strategically brilliant, political bombshell).

Maybe if they had found the Daqing oil field in Heilongjiang (Manchukuo) they might have been able to arm themselves with enough oil to fight a long war (this is pretty much the entire plot of Zipang!), but even then, the Japanese society was organized in a complete clusterfuck way that makes it hard to believe they could have matched the Americans technologically.

>>11767078
It's clear now, but it wasn't quite so clear at the beginning of the war. Japanese anti-aircraft deficiencies and the crippling weakness of a maritime empire to submarines and naval mines weren't yet apparent to everyone. And nobody saw the atomic bomb coming in 1941.

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>>11767083
Let's also keep in mind that French Indochina as well as Indonesia were vulnerable, and going into those areas by 1940 was strategically viable for IJN. The Japanese navy had the number and the logistical means to take almost any point over SEA, with nobody having the number to stop their fleet at all.

You are right about Manchuria though. There's coal and oil there that would've make Korea look like small potatoes in comparison (Taiwan was an outright joke resources wise, but the funny thing was that Japan's actually making good profit with positive GDP growth from that little island since Taisho period!)

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>>11767041
Hourlies were only added later in the game, and most early kanmusu don't have them yet.

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>>11767090

Agreed about Pearl Harbour, but that is kinda obvious, isn't it?

If they sunk 3 or 4 aircraft carriers instead of completely useless battleships it might've been almost worth it.

Forcing America to attack first, instead of giving them a casus belli on a platter, would've been much better in the long run. Imagine if they did succeed, Murrica attacked and got their teeth kicked in at Guadalcanal - which they almost did, just Savo Island victory wasn't followed through by Mikawa. American public would probably force a peace after few more fuckups from the US side.

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>>11767080
The army was full of people who were just too stupid to step back and see the big picture.

And you had to tread lightly when you contradicted the military or someone was likely to assassinate you in your sleep. There were actually fears that the Imperial Household itself might have been taken over by the military if it had tried to intervene against the army.

Good way to get what you want, but it's no fucking way to run a country. Without people pointing out the problems in your plans you're going to get blindsided one day. Sometimes I feel like one of the reasons interservice rivalry was so strong is because the only people who could say "no" to the Army was the Navy.

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>>11767090
That's the thing. Japan did not have the level of coordination that the Americans had in military-industrial development, and that alone would have hindered Japan from catching up to US.

It doesn't mean that Japan lacked in ingenuity by any mean... if we look at their development of jet engine, military aviation and electronics, we find cutting edge stuff such as bulbous bow with laminar flow. It's just that Japan simply hadn't the industrial sophistication to get their stuff mass produced (they didn't have enough domestic market to drive the fundamentals in mass production and universal electrification for example)

Case in point: They can't really mass produce the Shimakaze.

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>>11767111
That's really true. A bit of a shame that the Japanese politicians didn't go on some bloody revenge on the militarists (drawn and quarter the whole lot) when the war was over. The only thing that happened was a few people committing ritual suicide for the emperor, but that's really all that had happened... they were not viciously targeted like how they did to keep themselves in power.

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>>11767119

I don't think America would've approved a witch hunt.

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>>11767126
What are you talking about, americans love witchhunts. Its been a part of history from our founding to McCarthyism and more.

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>>11767128

Exactly. It's THEIR thing. Not a sport for the filthy nips.

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>>11767110
>Forcing America to attack first, instead of giving them a casus belli on a platter, would've been much better in the long run. Imagine if they did succeed, Murrica attacked and got their teeth kicked in at Guadalcanal - which they almost did, just Savo Island victory wasn't followed through by Mikawa. American public would probably force a peace after few more fuckups from the US side.
It depends on what you mean by "long run." In the sense that American might rush headlong into Southeast Asia, get its ass kicked, and sue for peace? Yes. In the sense that it allows America to get its incredible economic might to get off the ground and build, like, eighty aircraft carriers, no. The United States had a hundred of them ready for the invasion of Kyushu.

All in all, you're still right - it was not a good idea.

>>11767113
A lot of people knew this. Many intelligent Japanese army officers had been trying to figure out ways to retool Japan's economy into a state where it could fight a modern war. Instead of focusing on expanding the army in the present, you have to focus on developing the economy so that you can fight the war. The total war theorists had been working on modernization but they were dragged into the war and their plans were suspended.

In fact, the leader of the modernization movement, Major General Tetsuzan Nagata, was in the middle of spearheading this campaign when he was assassinated by an army radical in 1936.

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>>11767119
We ended up executing quite a few of them at the International War Crimes Tribunal for the Far East. But as far as I'm concerned, we should have given the Japanese people pitchforks and torches and let them sort it out themselves.

Those adventurous generals who went on joyrides in Asia that eventually got millions of Japanese killed (and tens of millions of other Asians) would have been forced to face their superiors, and then commit ritual suicide for having gotten their countrymen killed in spades, defied their rightful leaders, and failed in every way that it is possible to fail.

Instead, it was victor's justice imposed from outside, and people have resented it ever since. I think that the whitewashing of Emperor Showa, and the Allied Occupation in general really has distorted Japanese views of war responsibility. But maybe Japanese culture just works in a way that Westerners can't quite comprehend.

>>11767130
he have dishonored country
he knows what he must do

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>>11767131
>It depends on what you mean by "long run." In the sense that American might rush headlong into Southeast Asia, get its ass kicked, and sue for peace?

I did mention fuckups, didn't I?

All in all I think Japan had a better shot at "winning" that war than Nazi Germany ever did. Hitler was fucked hard from before the war even began.

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>>11767137
They have learned from WW2 for sure.

The self-defense force is a far more coherent force, and a force that is under the control of the Japanese diet, with a general population that would scorn any move by the self-defense force to usurp the government.

The level of sophistication that Japan possess in R&D as well as mass production are world-class, and they haven't forgotten how to build their own weapons. Japan had better keep up with that, given the growth of Chinese sphere and the unreliability of Taiwan in keeping that status-quo going.

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>>11767144
They're slowly changing into more hawkish position, right? With JMSDF Hyuuga and the likes.

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>>11767145
Well, it's not really surprising, considering the amount of posturing that we are seeing from China, plus that Shinzo Abe needed to get hawkish so that he won't be yet another PM with < 6 month term.

Japan needs the distraction in a way. They are really feeling quite low domestically. Fukushima's still not going away, and their general competitivene4ss against the Koreans had been tanking in the last few years and all.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, what do you guys think about 6/5/7/2 for Yamato?
I know it has a small sample size but I think we should switch over to help out populating the database.
It is also cheaper on the bauxite cost.

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>>11767138
Hitler suffered from an acute case of bad tactics, too. But without him, America would have focused on Japan from the start instead of "Europe First." And if it were finished in time, the atom bomb would have fucked everybody's battle calculations ten ways from Sunday.

どうして…？私の戦況分析が…

>>11767144
Oh, I don't expect them to succumb to the insanity of the early Showa era again. Government by assassination isn't coming back anytime soon but there does seem to be this weird case of historical blindness when it comes to the Greater East Asia War. It's been commented that Japanese people think of the war like it's something that happened to them and not something they did. And the way they treat historical memory is really fucking weird.

The stories of American and German WWII veterans have been written about extensively. Japanese people just don't talk about it. "Japan at War" seems to be the first oral history of ordinary people in Japan and it's in English with, as far as I can tell, no translation. Published in freaking 1992. Well, I'm sure that people have talked about it, but the compilations of ordinary soldiers' and citizens' stories that abound in the West apparently don't exist. Japanese just seem to like taking things to their graves.

We've probably derailed this thread enough.

>>11767152
I'd help you but all my bauxite is being consumed by Taihou recipes.

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>>11767152
I'd try it but I'm hesitant on burning 100 dev mats.

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>>11767152
>to help out populating the database.
How many people on /jp/ are actually going to submit their crafts to the Japanese wiki? A decent amount of this thread probably doesn't speak/understand Jap. I'm one of them, although I'd copy/paste the template and substitute my results to help anyways, but how many people are going to be smart enough to do that? Keep in mind that there are a lot of questions asked in these threads that have perfectly good answers on the wiki.

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>>11767159
This topic is pretty /jp./ What do you expect when you need to know about the IJN to understand the game mechanics.You have about as much say about your flotilla as the Japanese flotilla commanders did, and we might as well as to leave all navigation of IRL IJN ships to fairies...

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>>11767145
You mean the Izumo-class. LDP already put out a report recommending that Japan should operate F35Bs from carriers.

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>>11767165
The F-35 isn't even that good though.

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>>11767165
Is that the one that's arguably usable for VTOL?

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>>11767168
The plane doesn't matter, it's a big step towards a level of hawkishness that stretches the definition of a 'self defense force'.

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>>11767165
>>11767168
>>11767169
Izumo needs to get their deck treated in order to operate the F-35 I think. It'd be a bit of a refit, I guess not as extreme as the Izumomaru to Hiyō back in the days...

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>>11767174
I don't see why Japan can't have an army, Germany has one and they started two fucking world wars.

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>>11767174
The self defense force is one of the most advanced armed forces in southeast asia today. Frankly, USA might need to see it flex its muscles, as US is in no position financially or militarily to extend itself any further in the Pacific.

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>>11767169
F35B is STOVL.

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>>11767180
Shit, I messed up the term. Seems I still suffer from New Year's Hangover.

[Anonymous No.]

Still no Ooi, where to find her?

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>>11767168
How does the F-35 variants stack up against the F-15E? Is the stealth capability so important that it's worth sacrificing a (seemingly) significant amount of mobility and ordnance capacity?
Wikipedia (probably not a reliable source for current military weapons..) list both as multirole fighters and they weigh about the same, so a comparison seems fair.

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>>11767182
Ooi? Plenty of places. Do more E2, E3, 2-3, 3-2 and whatnot... she shows up.

What DOESN'T show up is Mikuma.

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>>11767182
2-4-A or 3-3-A, do it.

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>>11767185
There is just no way to operate F-15s from a ship, is there? Moreover, you can't do ASW with F-15s, which is something that the JMSDF stresses heavily.

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>>11767182
Here.
*grabs my crotch*

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>>11767186
Mikuma is just an illusion to you, just like what Nagato is to me.

Although they're both available from bare min LSC crafting.

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>>11767190
Oh, it's just you, Teito...
hold on, Ooichi's here with you... hmm...

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>>11767189
Ah I see. Well, I was more curious about Korea's decision, since it's complementing its F-15Ks with F-35s.

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>>11767192
Nagato is real, anon. I thought the same as you for the last few months. E2 was the answer.

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>>11767195
E2 did not answer shit to me. I've given up hope on her ever dropping for me so I can see her with that splendid holo background.

I'm betting it on bare minimum LSC crafting now, maybe I'll finally get Yahagi too so it's not all bad.

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>>11767185
In terms of fighters, the best American one is the F-22. The problem is that it's a non-export- America won't sell it to anyone.
The thing is that the F-35 really isn't that amazing- it should be so much better, but America is willing to skimp out on development so that they can push it out to foreign markets quicker and for a lower cost. They don't want it to be as good as their exclusive plane.

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>>11766658
I'm shouting that when I scrap her

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>>11767177
germany has an army because they had a direct border to Warsaw-pact nations, and the Nato preferred that the soviets wouldn't just pass through germany in case of an invasion.
Besides, german army shouldn't really be stronger compared to the JSDF.

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>>11767182
I'd been having a huge problem with getting her, so in the end I just started spamming 250/30/250/30. Got her after about 7 attempts, along with Shimakaze. The relief I felt when I saw her face was palpable.

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>>11767203
We're talking carrier-based fighters though.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like Maruyu has an extra torpedo.

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>>11767213
If we're talking carrier based, I'd take an F/A-18E Super Hornet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767218
So what does it say?

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>>11767195
Is that fleet you are using really cheaper and safer than 5 subs?

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>>11767186
You gotta cheat the desire censor and not actually go for her. I am scrapping my third Mikuma after getting the gun and I didnt even farm for her. I think my final boss is going to be Hatsukaze.

[Anonymous No.]

This game's just screwing with me now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767182
2-3 boss daily
5-1 sub farming
3-3 mutsu farming

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>>11767242
Just keep trying, I was starting to give up hope grinding E-2 but then Suzuya dropped for me.
Now I just need Mikuma.

[Anonymous No.]

E-2 is such a mysterious place.

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>>11767245
>3-3 mutsu farming
lol

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>>11767249
I hate you.

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>>11767196
I got Nagato when trying to find Iku at the E-3's boss node
My fleet was heavily damaged afterwards, but I at least got something nice from it
and after that when trying to go again at E-3 my Takao accidentally sunk

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting to subscribe to the superstition of "good craft periods" where you get a burst of rare items/ships at a particular time.

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>>11767250
I got both the Nagato class from 3-3. Ooi drops on the way.
Problem?

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>>11767252
I trust in wikiwiki more than your statement, Nagato doesn't drop in E-3

[Anonymous No.]

This guy really likes the Asashio class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY2eYkvWnH4&feature

[Anonymous No.]

Somehow we're holding a No Nagato Club graduation ceremony now apparently.

I guess it'd be a long time before we hold a No Taihou/Yamato Club graduation ceremony.

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>>11767250
Got a problem with 41cm stockpiles?

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>>11767263
Why would you stockpile 41cm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767268
Obviously to scrap them and get steel.
The amazing anon here is developing a new steel farm model.

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>>11767260
Can't blame him. Arashio is a miracle.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I continue farming for Nagato in E-2? It's been a week and still no signs of her. All I got is a fucktons of Shoukaku and Yuugumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767273
Why are you not doing LCS with that amount of resources?

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>>11767273
She's still waiting for you there anon.

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>>11767273

Stop when you get to 5k of any resource.

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>>11767273
Just LSC your way to Nagato, you could do it at least 10 times before you start hoarding again and you could still do it daily.

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>>11767279
But if he did that he wouldn't be able to join the LSC club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767268
You can store emergency steel/ammo in 41cms

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767282
He can recover resources.

[Anonymous No.]

Question. Any chance for a crane sister drop with A rank finish at 5-3? Not that it really matters since 6 subs is basically win at 5-3...

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>>11767285
Why waste resources at E2 when Nagato are just LSC craft failures? Since they implemented LSC, I believe there is no point sortieing except for maintaining your rank, dailies, weeklies and farming for uncraftable like rare DDs.
Every other resources should be dumped into LSC.

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>>11767286
Nope

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>>11767273
Having a mental debate about LSC my way to a Zuikaku atm. I could care less about Hotel Yamato...
is it still worth it if I only have Akitsumaru, Mikuma and Zuikaku to gain?

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>>11767290
You dont want Taihou?
Well if you already have Taihou just do 5-2 for Zuikaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767291
I already have her. She is full of win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767290
Just ask yourself; What would RNGesus do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767273
I am this guy and fuck this is my 9th Shoukaku from E-2. Should I switch to E-3 now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767293
Keep trying for a shiny!

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>>11767290
The way I see it, don't get desperate. You'll still be here for midway so plan how much are you going to spend for Midway and try to hoard your way there. Once done, dump any surplus you have into the LSC.

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>>11767301
The way I see it, Midway event itself would drop carriers like candies

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767295
Then just do 5-2 everyday to join the elite 500.
You can get Mikuma and Zuikaku easy there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767305
But you need 3 carriers for 5-2 boss node no? muh bauxite

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767305
Not him, but how does the levelling in 5-2 goes? I get 3-2-A and 4-1, but 5-2 seems a tad hard to grind on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767307
None of the node has high AA stats
Just put more reppus and see how Taihou dominate Kaga in the G node.

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>>11767308
I think they refer to going to the boss node in 5-2. No compass trolling in the sense you will definitely get to the boss node if you have 2CV + 1 CVL. Expensive but the admiral experience gain is supposedly divine.

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>>11767308
1: Easy
2: Hard
3: Hard
4: Easy

You can rigged your compass for either 1/2 or 3/4. Most people do 1/2 for the rank. You can do 3/4 if you just want experience.

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>>11767305
I've farm 5-2 from T level 96. The first Mikuma drop is when I'm at level 104.

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>>11767305
I feel like doing just that. It feels as if that 5-2 is easier than E3 actually, with no Kongou and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767321
Do you have any logs of resources used or %B/%G routes?

[Anonymous No.]

This whole time, everytime i've been playing, there's always a notification about Adobe flash player. If it happens during the loading screen or the start game screen, the game will run fine. But when it happen during gameplay, the game freezes.

I was wondering if this is normal or whether someone knows how to fix this.

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>>11767321
How is your bauxite consumption per run?

[Anonymous No.]

Does E-3-A really has Iku? I've been at it for a few days now, completed the Kongou sisters a few times over and getting Mutsu a few times. Is she a myth? Or is she just really fucking rare?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767325
Don't click too much before things load.

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>>11767325
I just assume it's because flash is utter shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767321
That's just bad luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767311
>>11767317
I see. Thanks for the explanation. When I cleared 5-2 with Iona's help, I got sent to route 2 often, and ended up losing a considerable amount of bucket for my carriers. Maybe I'll try grinding there after the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767329
yes, someone got 3 out of ~200 runs.
S-rank only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767324
You mean the BB node vs Carrier node?
Around 50-50 I think.
>>11767328
150-250

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767332
You know if you really want to avoid the G node, there is a magic button called F5.
But if you are at the stage where you are farming 5-2, bucket and steel shouldnt be a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767336
>150-250

Yeah I won't be farming that, need my bauxite for Midway and Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767329
Yes, it does. In fact, any E-3 node can drop Iku. She's quite rare, but don't give up. Prepare for 50+ sorties to get one. 2 nodes per run are optimal in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767164
So the RNG is a mechanism the devs added to mock the IJN? Wonder what the Koreans will say if they hear about this.

>>11767179
>southeast asia
Wait, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767259
Did he actually mean E-2 and typed 3 by mistake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767346
then he was trying to find Iku in E-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767343
It's still doable. I do 5-7 runs per day and still able to squeeze out enough bauxite for 1 craft every 2-3 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767261
>No Nagato Club graduation ceremony
D-don't leave me, please.

[Anonymous No.]

S-Should I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767359
Go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767334
>>11767344
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767329
>>11767334
>>11767344
I got 2 of her already in the process of clearing E-3.

RNG works in mysterious ways.

>>11767350
... oh right.

>>11767359
I would if I were you. My fuel is the only thing stopping me from trying for a Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767359
No, LSC is only pain and suffering and glorious sterns

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767359
No, you shouldn't.
That recipe has a good chance with 100 dev kits only.
Wait for 7k bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767359
>>11767361
>>11767362
What did you get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767359
We are waiting for you at the No Yamato Club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767370
Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767372
>>11767374
The irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767372
Come to think of it, I don't really like to sortie Musashi. Nagato class is just that much more practical...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767361
>>11767370

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767376
Musashi is a practice ship.
Yamato would be joining her once I get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767378
Kongou class BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767376
I only use Yamato because Mutsu is ugly and Musashi is a fucking nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767378
I... know that feel. Christ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767369
Infamous R part of RNG. I got her thanks to heavy grind. I suspect desire sensor to be responsible for it, actually wanted her more than any other ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767372
Wow what a bunch of losers.
I got Yamato with my first Yamato recipe.

[Anonymous No.]

How to I make past this bitch ? Even sub as a flagship doesn't disable her lasers.

On other hand, since that multi-ship attack system is implemented would rockets get modification?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767399
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767393
I've gotten 2 Ikus as well. It makes me happy that I can technically keep doing 2-3 with 3 sub or 4 subs at all time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767399
I bet you've gotten Nagato in week 1 too. Some of us have lousy luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767393
I did want her too. RNG seems to like me enough to give me two of her though. It's like the desire sensor doesn't have much of an effect on me. Then again, maybe I didn't want her as badly as you did.

Of course, there are things I clearly want a lot (Shimakaze/Yukikaze), and even the rare DD recipe gave me only one Yukikaze... which gave me a lot of fukou da moments IRL until I retrieved her from the construction docks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767378
AaaAAAAGH.
I know that feeling too well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767403
Go around her you dummy dum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767399
It is not like I want that useless hotel or anything, I just want to complete my library

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767403
Keep on trying.

And bring Iona. Put her in the last slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767408
I pity you.
You should master the art of wanting something so badly that I actually get it through sheer force of will like I did.

[Anonymous No.]

So I was checking the luck stat of my subs and I noticed Goya has quite a high luck stat. Is there any historical reason behind this? I thought Iku is the one that is lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I've just realized I've got 20k of everything except ammo, which is at 6k. Well that's something I never thought could hapen. I never even used LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767422
Goya survived the war, Iku didn't.

Though to be fair, Goya was finished less than one year before the war ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767422
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-58

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767418
>sheer force of will
I got my 4th fleet in 1 day construction binge. It was pretty ridiculous run too. 3/4 needed kongou class in 6 BB crafts, best run of luck I've ever had in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when people actually thought Yukikaze was good for something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767403
Sparkle, and use the bottom right formation for high dodge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767432
Beaver? She's what you want to use for night battles. Ironbottom sound, E4 and E5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767426
How did you do that?

I know how to wear down bauxite; I'm just not in the right mood to do so now. I'd like to know how to wear down my ammo without sacrificing my fuel. Steel for me is so-so.

>>11767432
She still is. Her cut-in damage is insane. She can deal massive damage to bosses in night battles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767432
I will just leave this here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767259
>>11767346
Right, I'm sorry, I got Nagato in E-2, in E-3 I got Shimakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767434
That's the advice the English wiki gave? I'd rather not follow it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767403
CV at the bottom. That will not help you in Kirishima's node though but keep trying. It's RNG goddess doing her thing again.

>>11767428
>>11767427
Much appreciated.

>In May 1945 the submarine was sent to Kure Navy Yard to refit. Her aircraft catapult and hangar were removed, enabling her to carry six Kaiten. She was also fitted with a snorkel. On 22 June 162 B-29s of the U.S. Twentieth Air Force bombed Kure. I-58 was undamaged, although there were several near-misses.
So are we going to expect Goya's second remodel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767403
Submarine doesn't work, because she can't target subs. Kirishima is a battleship.

I just relied at brutal force and good results from RNG. Also, use Iona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767438
It was, but it worked for me as most of my ships escaped to the boss (mostly) unhurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767445
I swear, I seem to take more damage from line abreast than line ahead when I'm not facing subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
It is just an evasion formation.
If you want defend, go double line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
Same here, but that's only if I actually get hit in line abreast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
Line abreast doesn't increase armour, it decreases it but you get insanely high boost to your evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

God fucking dammit, made it to the boss for E-3 and took down all but the boss and 1 grunt. Ships proceed to target the fucking grunt in night battle...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767427
Still, you'd think I-19's torpedo salvo would make her the luckiest sub.

[Anonymous No.]

Taihou repair time is godlike
Another reason to use her over Kaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
you deal less damage -> enemies get more shots at you -> your higher defense/evasion doesn't outweigh that.

Unless you can't deal much damage anyway (like 3-2 with 6 DD) offense is the best defense.

Exception of the rule is when you have to face subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767473
wait until they have the same level

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767370
No Iku yet. But I'm getting enough Mutsu and BBs to feed her when I get and remodel her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
Horizontal is only useful against subs.
No reason why you should use it even in night battle.
Futaba recommend using double line for 5-3 and I went vertical for E5/E7 after realizing how shitty horizontal is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767449
If you want a good defense, you'll use Double Line.
Line abreasts is for suckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767470
Devs have other criteria. Her salvo resulted in highest torpedo stat among submarines.
Maybe she's not the luckiest sub, but it doesn't make her any less useful. She became my favorite submarine the moment I dropped her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767334
>>11767369
I got 3 in the 6-7 runs it took me to clear E-3.

[Anonymous No.]

How popular Haruna is? Because I'm seeing a surprisingly high amount of material from C85 / on Pixiv.

Not that I'm complaining, most beautiful BB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767458
>>11767460
>>11767461
>>11767478
>>11767485
>>11767487
Problem is, my evasion took a nosedive as well; I got hit more, and for more damage.

>>11767470
Luck refers to survivability I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767504
>my evasion took a nosedive as well
That is RNG at works.
My lvl99 subs still get hit as often as when she was at 50.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767500
Not as popular as kongou, but her popularity is indeed increasing as of late.

>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40542007

All my want for this doujinshi.

[Anonymous No.]

The quests are fucked up. Did my first sortie of the day for transports dailies and instantly completed it along with hitting 80% for the sink 5 transports despite killing only 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767417
>>11767434
>>11767441
>>11767446
At least I made it to he boss node. Olny Iona remain in one piece. Thanks anyway guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767370
On second thought, it happened. Time to switch to farming Akigumo, Yuugumo and then Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767510
Oh and don't bring Arpeggio Takao along with you on E-2, she's not worth it at this point.

Bring her and Arpeggio Haruna together with Iona on E-3 though, and watch them clean the enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I play this game with no regard to ship stats and just level up the ones I want to waifu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767512
I really forgot how many times I sortied, but I know I used close to 10k resources and 60 buckets in E-3 farming up to the boss(which was a big mistake) for half the attempts.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's in the 2 Yamato club with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767517
>Oh and don't bring Arpeggio Takao along with you on E-2
I beg to differ, Tsunkao was the janitor of my fleet, moping anything that still lives after all the pre-emptive strikes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767517
What's the alternative then?

[Anonymous No.]

There isn't anyone who failed to clear E-1 for Iku, right? These are all really new admirals, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767519
Yes but you're going to have to suffer a bit with sub-optimal fleet. Besides, whatever ships you use, useful or not, will grow on you in time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767525
Kiso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767508
Oh yes, that'll be glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767519
you don't need to use the best ships of their classes, but in some situations you might need ships of certain classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767507
I swear, enemies missing me less in line abreast can't just be RNG... or it could?

>>11767524
>>11767525
Well, I know she kept getting damaged badly every time I tried to clear E-2... I gave up and used 2 CAs, 1 CV, Iona, and two more. Two CAs, one CA and one CV, one CA and one BB, or one BB and one CV. I forgot.

But whichever it was, it was more useful than she was.

Are all your ships fully modernised?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767540
The first thing I did for my Tsunkao was to max everything except for AA. Probably that's why she was moping everything that comes in her way. I got a bit lucky as well because she would use her hax lazer at least once for every sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767519
Of course you can. I hate all the CA ships with a passion except for a select few. Still made it through E4 and E5 with no problem even with super underlevel CAs.

>>11767481
Total repair time = 6 x 6:10 x ship type multiplier x+ 30secs
Guess her multiplier. It is not a multiplier for an aircraft carrier.

>>11767540
Well yes I do believe formation bonus is actually more significant than evasion stats so it might true they miss more often but you also get shot more often when you leave more enemies alive.

[Anonymous No.]

Mutsu is a girl!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767543
She did for me too, but it was little more than scratch damage with her laser when her HP went to red. Which happened every single fucking time. Mostly way before the boss node, sometimes at the boss node.

>>11767544
That just makes line abreast even worse, doesn't it?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767548
where these official artworks came from anyway?

That erratum ridden official artbook? Or magazines?

[Anonymous No.]

Where muh Taihou doujins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767544
I don't see why an armored carrier should have less repair-time, but if the devs make it so I can't argue with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767553
Teitoku no Fuyuyatsumi, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767550
line abreast is also called Anti-Sub formation for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767562
That's why I'm questioning why anyone would use it for anything other than against subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767564
Misinformation in the english wiki. Seeing how nips cleared E4 and E5 should raise a huge flag on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767567
there were also people here who kept recommending it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767557
Like this: a USN liaison officer on HMS Indefatigable commented: "When a kamikaze hits a U.S. carrier it means 6 months of repair at Pearl. When a kamikaze hits a Limey carrier it’s just a case of "Sweepers, man your brooms."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767567
>Misinformation in the english wiki
I should've known.

Which reminds me. Is line abreast good for clearing 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767564
I used it on a few nodes where we had ships that either miss or someone gets crit to red regardless of armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767573
that's related to taking less damage, not to quicker repairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767575
Those few nodes were easier with line ahead than line abreast...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767580
Maybe, but I guess at a certain point, it comes down to personal preference

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have problems pasting their api link into KV? Every time I need to type it manually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767578
Well wouldn't less damage = quicker repairs? After all, armored carriers are made to withstand hits that can be easily patched in a moments notice. Not unlike a carrier that can be easily be punched a hole that would take several months to patch up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767583
Nope. It comes down to fucking RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767587
No, that would mean they should take less damage from the same attack. But if they manage to get an armored carrier heavily damaged it shouldn't be fixed faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767574
Probably only for the preboss node since the BB is almost guaranteed to hit one to red regardless of how high your DD's armor was.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11766873
>>11766937
thanks, i'll include them in logbook.

>>11767586
you are not forgetting the http:// prefix right?

although i'd rather not waste time and save the API link in KanColleViewer.exe.config
if you do want to save it in KCV, don't forget to replace & with &amp; in the link you saved.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got tips on how to 3-4?
Wiki says something stupid like 4BB 2CV will net you to boss node. Is that even correct?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767631
All subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767631

I don't think so.

It's compass carnival, just suck it up and keep rolling until you get to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767631
JP wiki states all route is random though: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%CB%CC%CA%FD%B3%A4%B0%E8#area4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767636
Tried 6 subs, got critted to red several times at preboss nodes.
>>11767637
>>11767644
Will try with 2CLT 1BB 1CV 2subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767631
4BB 2CV is fairly reliable since there's no compass rules in the map and the enemies are fairly strong. Thanks to the event though everyone should have at least 4 subs now so just clear it with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767631
1 BB 3 CLT 2 CV worked for me, kill them before shelling begins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767649
Didn't like Kiso so I never bothered touching her. Will trade with 1 sub probably.

>>11767648
>>11767644
>>11767637
Thanks for the advice guys. Might try a few fog ships in there too, my resources are above 30k anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767647
Did you think you'd just magically clear it in one try? Either you go all subs or don't use a sub at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767656
You can't use Iona?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767656
Well, it happened that way on 2-3, 2-4, 3-1, and 4-3. Guess I got lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767656
I cleared 3-4 with 4 subs on first try.
Retarded luck, I know.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys sortie with yellow ships? Or just bucket them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767670
BBs can be used till they hit orange. Taihou too.
I wouldnt try it with other ships, just bucket them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767670
Depending on what ship it is. If CV/CVL/CLT, bucket them if they're close to orange since they become significantly useless once they hit orange.

Bucket DDs and CLs because you don't want that one red ship dragging you back.

CAs and BBs should be perfectly fine at yellow. CAs are kind of a gamble though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767676
>>11767681
This is a specific case, 4-3 sub farming.
Sometimes I hit node J and 1-2 ships get to yellow.
Or some opening torp gets through line abreast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767686
I sortie with yellow ships during 4-3 farming and bucket them when they get hit to orange or red. I skip (F5) J node, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767701
Why?
With a proper setup, you have a good chance to S it without any damage taken. And it's exp, and you don't get fatigue for noting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767703
I'm not falling your shitty tricks anymore, that fucking Ta-battleship rapes everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767703
I received enough random crits forcing me to retreat to hate this node. I like to take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767636
What do you equip your subs in for this setup? All cut in or dodge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767714
Cut-in. You can even S rank the boss node easy if you get good engagement.
Turbine is useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767714
All cut in. Dodge has been proven by the nips to be useless as of now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767708
It's your choice.
I'm running it with ASW, BB, Kitaooi (15.5, sonar, minisub), CV (2R, 1B, 1Y), random (either sub, DD or Melonchan. Latter two with some asw gear). You don't meet the BB too often, and even when you do, she will miss many times or gets to orange in the opening salvo/airstrike.
Well, I took a few crits from her but deemed it's better to cancel and bucket those runs, instead of auto-refreshing J

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767714
Sub farming is, in this case, hunting enemy submarines to level up your CL or DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767718
Welp, my lack of sleep shows. What an abomination of a sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767716
What? So you mean using all turbines in farming 3-2 is useless? or does it apply to non farming only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767722
Disregard that, I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767726
According to the nips' results, the dodge that turbines give does absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767729
That's so sad, I wasted so much resources on them a few months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767729
So the people that are bothering crafting it are doing it out because of completion purposes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767729
I wonder why they made turbines useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767737
As of now, yes. Previously was because it was thought to be good.

Or they probably read the wikia and don't know about this. Saying to equip turbines to improve low evasion or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767740
it's just a side-effect from evasion being useless/way less useful than the numbers suggest

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767740
I'm still waiting for it to turn slow ships to fast.

[Anonymous No.]

My latest node J.
All those ships were yellow to begin with, 1 of them got 7, the other one 2 damage during the battle

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767567
>Misinformation in the english wiki.
What, do people actively go there and put in nonsense, all for the sake of "trolling"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767764
there are people who actually believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767764
They don't put it in for the sake of "trolling". They actually believe it to be legit information that they pick up from random facebook and leddit posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767548
I've never understood these posts. Mutsu isn't a girl, she's a smoking hot babe.
I'd give her my torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767764
A lot of it is stuff they actually believe. I mean just look at the equipment page, different recipes for different flagships..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767811
>I mean just look at the equipment page, different recipes for different flagships..
If you go to wikiwiki's it's no different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767814
What.
Don't mix flagship type and certain ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767817
No, it is specific ships.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF#c2702c9a

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767817
It's similar: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF
Compare to English equvalent: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Development

Wikiwiki however, has the courtesy to group them together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767824
Well shit, I mixed it up with kancolle-db.
Anyway, I still don't really believe that, but who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767806
I don't really understand your post, she doesn't shoot torpedo's so why would you give her one? I would rather give my torpedo to someone with good torpedo stats like Kitakami or Ooi

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767829
Well, when an admiral really loves his ship, he torpedoes her to show her he loves her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767826
>>11767824
Which one to believe
http://kancolle-db.tk

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767828
Pretty sure it's confirmed that only flagship type matter. I think the wikiwiki's format was due to the fact nobody knows anything so they just dumped everything they could.

>>11767832
That said, wikiwiki's information seems outdated, the miracle recipe for aircrafts doesn't seem to be in the wiki at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767832
Kancolle db still logs the secretary, you can even check which items where crafted with a specific secretary

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767831
What if she sinks? I have to take responsibility, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767832
Believe in the miracle recipes
10/251/250/10
21/60/20/131
10/11/251/250

If you believe in turbines, then add 100fuel to any of the above recipe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767844
Miracle recipe? I haven't heard of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767848
Well, if you do it properly, that's how destroyers are made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767852
Refer to >>11767850

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767850
I know the top 2 are 46cm gun and planes. But what about the last one, radar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767857
I think anon meant ship construction recipes.

[Anonymous No.]

Dozens of E-3 runs and two Zuikakus later and I still haven't got Kumano. I think I'll give up and start building up resources for LCS before Midway event starts looming over the horizon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767832
I wonder when will they update the database with Taihou and LSC

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767850
I shall never doubt the miracle recipe anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767865
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767884
LSC recipes are already in, it's just very few samples so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767891
And no dev mat indicated

[Anonymous No.]

That's a lot of stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767293
Just got the other sister from LSC. Taihou still a distant dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767850
>>11767865
What's the flagship for the 46cm recipe? BBs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767881
I wish I've gotten Zuikaku from E3. I am just not sure if I should keep bothering with E3 or just go back to 5-2...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767903
BB of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767903
Yeah.
I dont know if ship rarity play a huge role but all my best crafting streak come with s holo ships like musashi and taihou.
When I got Taihou, I crafted 3ryuusei kai, 1saiun and 1suisei 12a with 3day worth of daily craft.

[Anonymous No.]

So, if you could sacrifice ships during LSC to kick them out from the drop list, or even decrease their spawn rate, would you do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767913
>sacrifice
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767908
>>11767909
Well, i just used Haruna-Kai, and the first time got me a penguin, while the 2nd time got me a one star torpedo.

Meanwhile, crafting 21/60/20/131 with Kaga got me a Ryuusei-kai on the first time.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, this guy in my list already has Taihou on level 95.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767919

And what do you think you're doing when you modernize?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767932
I just take the equipment off the girls and use it to build even better equipment for others.
The girls themselves stay healthy and A-ok in a hotel next to the office

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767920

You're just damn lucky, that's it.

46cm drop rate is atrocious even with the right recipe. Except one in 50 crafts, not 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767938
Should've known the strongest cannon in the game wouldn't come that easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767938
I still don't have a single 46cm after like 60 crafts...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767889
BB flagship for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767941

I've got only 4 46cms, two of them off Musashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767938
it is about 6% by the way. sample size was about 300 I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767947
I've currently got 3, had more but lost them when my Kongo sunk after accidentally continuing my sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

I crafted 2 46cm guns within 10 crafts of each other. Hell, I think I crafted both of them within 10 crafts, 15 max.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still in no 46cm club

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767978
Get your most loyal BB to do your crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767978
Do 4 crafts everyday from the dailies, your crafting tools shouldn't deplete too much from that and soon you'll be one of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767978
Set non-kai Fusou as your flagship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767980
>>11767986
tried that for weeks and the best I got so far were 41cms

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767947
>>11767978
>>11767944
46cms were surprisingly easy to craft for me. Fuso crafted 12, I think, and I got one more off of Musashi. That's plenty enough for everyone.

ASW equipment however is a pain to craft, no type-3 sonars and only two type-3 depth charges in over 200 crafts so far.

[Anonymous No.]

Just noticed that Shoukaku wears side.ties. Delicious

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768036
The opposite for me, for some reason ASW has always been the easiest to craft for me, pic is less than 100 tries. Also yeah, Fusou works great for 46cm, got all three of mine from her in less than 40 crafts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767850
Does the radar recipe still give like 1% chance for radars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768036
You can easily get Type 3 sonars from Makigumo/Naganami though, 46cm are much harder to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768068
I wish Yuugumo gave sonars, managed to get 4 of her while I only have one of Makigumo and Naganami.

[Anonymous No.]

no pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767887
I've used the recipe probably 40 times by now, it's only given me one regular Hoshi, 3 Seirens, 2 12As and like 6 Reppus or something.

Hoshi Kai is probably the rarest right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768086
Welcome to the Yamato club?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768094

I think you meant to say Yamato Hotel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768093
>Hoshi
>Seiran
my sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768068
>You can easily get Type 3 sonars from Makigumo/Naganami though, 46cm are much harder to get.
My poor fortune with ASW equipment also extends to these two. I very much enjoy Makigumo's design and have been grinding on and off for her since level 47. I'm level 78 now and I still don't have her.

I'm happy with my type-93 sonars, just give me a Makigumo to raise.

[Anonymous No.]

What should I do with my currently 3-digits bauxite?
1. Craft planes (best planes currently: 4 Ryuusei 1 12A, bunch of type 52 fighters).
2. Craft for Taihou
3. Train my Kaga (lv.22)/new Cranes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768117
>3 digits bauxite
I don't think you can do any of the 3 suggestions at all, son

At least 4 digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768117
How are you planning to craft Taihou with 3 digits of bauxite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768121
>>11768123
He probably means six digits, i.e. 100k+

If so, try for Taihou until below 50k, then craft planes and grind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768121
>>11768123
Now at 1008, but yeah I'm saving up. Just wanted to know which should be the highest priority considering my low bauxite after I saved up a bit.

>>11768127
Nope 3, wasted it all on LSC earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768131

Worry about what to do with it after you hit the regen cap...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768142
O-okay. Currently doing expedition 5 and 2-2, any other stuff to help increase my bauxite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768145
Expedition 6 and 11.
4-3 has a good bauxite node, but as far as I can remember, it is not really cheap to roll in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768150
Guess I'll do the expedition 6 and 11 after I get my fuel and ammo to 5 digits. Shouldn't take too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768086
What recipe did you use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768150
>>11768155
Oh wait didn't notice but I obviously meant 6 on my first post but yeah I'll probably be able to focus do 11 by tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768160
*I'll probably be able to do 11 by tomorrow.

Fuck I need to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767938
>>11767944
I went on a crafting spree one week before the event. Did about 180 crafts with this recipe and got three 46cm.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck yes finally got a holo from E3

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768191
What's your Akagi count at now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768196
1.
She's as rare as zuikaku and hiryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768210
Did you sink your first? Because she's a quest drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768217
Jim, I think he is actually lamenting his holo drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768191
Akagi is old and busted.

About time someone posted best carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768224
Oh, poor guy. I'm already at three Zuikaku.

[Anonymous No.]

Have you got your Taihou yet? if so in how many tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
Nope, 19

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
Yes. Three tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
No, 7

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
No, 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
my first lsc craft is a taihou

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
Nope, 8 tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
The real question is: Does anyone have 2 or more Taihous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
8 tries and still don't have her.
2 Akitsu, 4 Shoukaku, 1 Kaga, 1 Agano.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768237
Yes, 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>Consists of two aviation battleships and two aviation cruisers. You may add 2 additional ships. You MUST deploy to world 4-2, and you MUST score a victory at the boss.

Fuck this quest

[Anonymous No.]

What's wrong, why can't I sortie the event maps anymore?
I definetely should have enough space and my winrate should be fine too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768272
Equipment space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768272
>I definetely should have enough space
You don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768272
Check your equipment slots, you need at least 20 free slots there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768272
Check your equipment

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768272
How about your equipment slots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768281
>>11768282
>>11768283
>>11768284
>>11768285
Sorry, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

So the best place to farm Hiryuu is 3-3, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768293
Not doing the event maps? got 2 Hiryuu in E3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768297
I haven't got any, and farming E-3 seems to be a bit expensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768293
if you still need Taihou, LSC

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768293
Got 5 from my 2-3 daily runs.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the point of Seiran? It can only be equipped by CAV, BBV, AV, SSV and all of them have so little plane slots if feels like a waste.

[Anonymous No.]

Do SSV count toward A27 quest (require 3 subs in fleet)? Wiki has contradictory info in the Talk section, one guy claims he "heard that SSV do not count", while someone else posted that SSV is OK. Can someone clear this up?

Unfortunately I can't check it myself, Imuya just refuses to show up. My Iku is nearing lvl 50 and I wonder if I should wait with remodeling or not.

[Anonymous No.]

Ooooh. Nagato get in E-2.

This wishing for Zuiho instead seem to have worked. My remaining problem is what I need to desire now that I want Zuiho for real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768347

You should wait anyway. SSV remodels suck due to long repair times.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the amount you gain in resource nodes random or is there a way to increase the chance of getting the highest amount you can get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768353
I got Zuiho while wanting Zuiho

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768347
Try it with Shioi, she starts as an SSV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768365
Oh god, I'm retarded. Completely forgot my plain sub reward.
Thanks, I'll check this out and post results, just in case someone else is interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768347
Read the good wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768376
Apparently SSV is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767230
Maruyu rookie Y chromosome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767556
Nowhere, because Taihou didn't exist when everybody was writing their C85 books. Come back in six months.

[Anonymous No.]

So I couldn't get a Yuubari from crafting for a month straight of dailies, but since getting one from the event, I've gotten 3 from dailies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768488
Now that you mentioned I just crafted one with the dailies.
It's always nice to see her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768488
Sasuga RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, 150 buckets later and I've cleared all 3 events and have 4 subs now. Guess it's time to start praying for a Taihou?

[Anonymous No.]

Yamashiro a qt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768513
She has a nice butt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768512
Well, I got every fucking ship from the event. Now I need Taihou and Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768512
What about the "easy" Nagato and Mutsus?

Also other array of rare ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768526
Already got Nagato, getting rank S on the bosses takes too much effort though for my liking.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm new so this might be kinda a stupid question, but how important is AA? I'm trying to decide between leveling Maya or Takao for my CA.

Is Maya worth it for the +20 and -10 torp, or will radar/ect make up for the lost stats if I choose Takao?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768540
you could use 2 CA for compass-chan later anyway

[m No.]

97.4% of wiki reports parsed, it may be a little crowded, feel free to add suggestions.

I'm going to try a 3500/3500/6000/6000/100 now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768540
Keep at least 2CA at a high level. They are beasts at night battles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559
Good work, chartfag. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768540
Just get two CAv's. You won't regret it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559
Sweet, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559
Nice, going to need that once I recover my resources I've expended over this event so I can use LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768540
Mogami + Maya is fine. You can also do Kinugasa just to finish your collection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559

Excellent work.

It seems like it's pretty viable to get a Nagato through LSC now if anyone didn't get one through the event maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768591
Is there any real point in having seaplanes on CAVs? 19 plane capacity seems redundantly low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559
>100 building materials for a 25% chance at Yamato
Goddamn, what's a good way to grind those building materials then?

[m No.]

>>11768604
That recipe doesn't have a significant amount of data, I didn't want to include that at first,
it may be just another 15-17% recipe after 400 samples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768603
Nah, just use them like normal CAs unless you want to kill subs with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768610
Might be, but it still doesn't change the fact that LSC requires a lot of building materials so it would be good to know how to grind them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768559

BASED 3500/3500/6000/6000/100

Taihou first try with it, after 4 failed 4/2/5/7/20 that was floating around before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768629
Welp, got a Maruyu.

[m No.]

>>11768629
Nice, it was only a Shoukaku for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768639

My other 4 crafts were 2 Shoukaku, Akagi, and Kaga, keep at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768629
There should be fanart of Taihou with 'Do x/x/x/x!' just like Nagato

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768617
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Sortie
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Quests

[Anonymous No.]

So its my first week, and I am getting raped by airplanes on 1-4, do I need anti-air weapons crafted? What is a good level to take it on at? I have a 17-19 and the rest are 13's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768702
Read the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768702
I think I beat 1-4 without any. Just don't use DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>one enemy survived with 1 hp during day battle.
Fuck this, making me waste my ammo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768740
At least you still succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768743
Should have used subs.

[Anonymous No.]

mute check

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768751
I wanted a redemption after a failed E-4.

[Anonymous No.]

I keep failing Exp 17 with 4DD+2CL, even though I already completed Exp 16. What gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768818
flagship lvl 20?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys perfer to get the nail things that let you ship build and craft? I have been doing expedition 8 over and over and having piss poor results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768825
I've mistaken flagship level for HQ level. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768826
Quests. Try expedition 12 instead of 8.

[Anonymous No.]

So who's your favorite Kogou class?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768872
>expedition 12
Checking again, I meant expedition 20.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768884
Though the majority of the world seems to be largely ignorant of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768884
See
>>11767500

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768892

So, is the mic working?

[Anonymous No.]

Almost there.
After this 3 days, I'm starting to hate 4-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768900
You asked for it.

[Anonymous No.]

To someone who told me to train Kiso at 4-3, thank you very much, now she's at 59

>>11768892
I think there should be a fanart of Kirishima with Naka, they might get along well

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768955
I don't really care about what direction she'll end up taking, but I sure would like her to be more popular.
Haruna at least appears in plenty of doujins, Kirishima is practically forgotten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768999
You know who's even more forgotten even after her Kai-2? HIEI, that's who.

Try searching this thread for Hiei and Kirishima, compare them

This actually sadden me since I actually like Hiei and her energy

[Anonymous No.]

I find it strange that people hated I-401 design, even calling the artist shibashit, considering s/he is also the same person who drew Kaga, Mogami, KTKM, which is everyone's favorite in /jp/

Are you guys being contradictory or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769009
You have Hiei all to yourself now though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769057
Yeah, I wish she is more popular though, she seems like a good joke character or energetic sister (which she is already)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769043

It's a troll or a really shitty meme. Just ignore and/or tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769043
Most of this hate was exaggerated, but I can understand it to some extent. 401's design just stands out too much - Shobon's subs are colorful and full of energy, while Shibafu's designs are just... normal. I don't hate the design nor Shibafu, it's just different. Not my cup of tea, but I definitely won't whine too much about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769043
They call him Shitbafu. Kaga, Mogami and KTKM are all liked mostly because of their personality, not design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769066
Or a siscon, she's definitely a siscon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769076
But no one ever complains about their designs. You never see people wishing Kaga had a different artist besides the ones who just want their damaged sprites to be lewder, which I'm fine without. And Kaga's popularity definitely isn't because of her personality since we can't go a day without an argument over how no one knows what she's really like.

Personally I believe the Shioi hate came partially from exclusivity. When Imuya and Goya were released everyone loved Imuya but the rarer one had shit art and a shit voice. Now she's loved by all. When Iku was easy to get everyone loved her but Hachi was a shit character with a shit history that no one wanted to bother doing E-4 for because they could totally handle it with ease. Now she's incredibly desired and everyone who got her loves her. Same thing happened with Iona and Shioi, people are upset that the easy one is limited time only and the hard to get one is so unfamiliar both to the Arpeggio design and Shobon's style. But the hate really has died down and I'd attribute that to most people actually finishing the event and warming up to her. She's way cuter than she has any right to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
Not really, I have her and I still find her to be incredibly plain and disappointing, was expecting something great to take Hachi's place but I got her instead.
And I had her when I complained about her art and her design, the other subs just look a lot better than her and even their voice and lines are cuter. Should really be leveling her for that seiran but I cant bring myself to, maybe I'll just use her when I go training in 4-3 or 3-2 and switch to my other subs after she gets damaged.

But hey, at least her art is better than Maruyu's who has bad art and even worse stats or Akitsumaru who looks like a Touhou or a zombie, maybe both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
>And Kaga's popularity definitely isn't because of her personality
But it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
>But the hate really has died down and I'd attribute that to most people actually finishing the event and warming up to her.
Or people have finished leveling her to 35 took the Seiran, crammed her into the furthest corner of their docks and forgotten about her because they got several copies of the other subs as drops and don't care for the fuel sink anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769112
Let's face it. Kaga is loved for her homey dumpiness. She is a happy ship to have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769076
Oh yeah, that's the one. Damn, that mocked-up name made me feel sorry for that artist.

Some people really can't appreciate other people's work until they actually try drawing for themselves, I guess

>>11769112
I dunno, I thought that was actually because everyone agreed that she has the best stats?

[Anonymous No.]

I like Shioi's voice but her plain looks is just boring. Doesn't help that she is the flattest among the subs and I really hate flatness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
Because all the other carriers are designed by him. You bet there is going to be complaints if all the kido butai were designed by fumikane and then shibafu designed Kaga with mudskin feature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769121
You would then categorically hate Taihou, Melon and RJ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
She just doesn't fit in, it is hard to get used to her.
The "お風呂直行！どぼーん" line makes me happy every day though so I will use her, the extra fuel is worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769083
This is probably out there somewhere already, but I can't seem to find any doujin about this in sadpanda website

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769127
>All the other carriers
Hi thar, Kaga. news flash: CarDiv5 exists. They are real carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769120
Stats has nothing to do with it.
It's her cold yet caring personality that is endearing.
And let's put the lesbian thing aside for a second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
Too bad her cuteness decreases after remodeling. I wish she had her voiced lines swapped.

I must disagree with your argument. I joined the game quite recently, the only submarine I had was Goya, crafted by accident when I fucked up my input for ship construction, but I digress. There were two submarines I wanted to obtain - I-401 and Iku. The latter was actually harder to obtain, because she's a random drop. Not as common as she's claimed to be, on top of that. If you have enough resources, it's virtually impossible not to get Shioi. I spent all of my saved resources, but cleared E2, then E3. Only 50% of my plan was completed, so I saved up on fuel and steel once again and started grinding E3 for Iku. Getting her took me several days, but I finally got her. Here's the moment where this logic fails - if something requires a lot of effort, but you finally get it, you love it much more. Maybe it isn't actually much better than the other, easily obtained thing. It's the effort that counts. Long story short - I love Iku much more than any other ship I got earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769112
Kaga's popularity and annoying fans come from the "Kaguard" fanon where they completely change her personality from a calm and stoic character to someone who's obsessed with the admiral.

There's also the side that pairs him with Akagi and both sides will constantly work to create shitstorms here and in /a/.

>>11769120
Thats another thing, Kaga used to have the best stats but now Taihou was introduced and people love to argue about how Kaga is still the best and Taihou is shit.

I like her and all but im honestly starting to find her annoying because of all this stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769128
RJ is the absolute worst. she isn't even good AA material.
Taihou I just don't give a rats ass about because my other CVs do their job just fine
Melon is an exception because she has a great personality and voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769129
Every submarine has at least one "special" line which makes me smile. I'll never forget the first time I heard Goya's
>海の中からこんにちはー！　ゴーヤだよ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769121
>>11769129
Everyone forgetting Maruyu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769137
I love Imuya most of of all the subs. She was the first sub that I've gotten, and getting her as a drop from 2-3 at that. I learned sub mechanics from her, and used her all the time on 2-3 oil runs.

Goya took several weeks of rare DD craft to get. Iku and warcrimes-chan came from ironbottom sound (Warcrimes was alot of E4 suffering, worth it though.)

I love them, but Imuya's the flagship of my heart, even if she's not the hardest hitter out of the subs, and despite how common she is as a drop!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769120
>>11769112
>>11769095
Have any of you considered that someone else may like something for a different reason than you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769148
That never fails to put a smile on my face.
It's just that cheerful and full of energy and cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769149
But I mentioned her, bad ingame art and even worse stats.
Only good to make your ships luckier

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769149
Shioi is flatter than Maruyu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769146
Fanon Kaga is made of pathetic waifu wish fulfillment that turns her into uguu deredere shit. Stoic Kaga condescending on the 5th Division losers is clearly the superior one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769149
I cant like something that I dont have
After a week of LSC, I am still missing her. She isnt that common isnt it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769146
It's not like the few idiots who try to bait the other 'fanons' have any opinion worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769151
Please, don't even say she's "common". She's successfully avoiding me all the time, doesn't matter what I try. Craft or maps, no luck at all.

I'd really treat her well. I love my submarines and never abuse them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095
Still nobody really cares about Hotel Yamato or Musashi regardless of how exclusive they were.

Kaga's popularity actually is because of her personality and lines, I don't know what made you think otherwise.

>>11769115
>even their voice and lines are cuter
Do you not like her Mogurimasu line or repair line? I find it strangely addictive.

>>11769127
Shoukaku and Zuikaku were done by Konishi. Just look at Zuikaku's damaged sprite, I don't even know if I want to get her to remodel level to complete my library.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769164
Maybe not, I've been doing bare minimum daily and I've only ever gotten her once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769146
I pretty much hate every annoying fanboys for any ships. Instead of hating on each other ship, they should be treated better like a daughter.

I mean, they are even called kanmusu for god sake

>>11769152
But anon, we're not talking about liking someone. We're talking about the reason behind the hate for Shibafu I-401 but liking everyone else from the same artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769095

People bitch about Shibafu's design of I-401 because it doesn't fit the boat it's supposed to portray. I actually like how she looks and would've been fine with that art on any other sub out there, even next to awesome Shobon's designs.

Thing is, I-401 was created exclusively for a secret, elite mission. She shouldn't look so godfuckingdamned plain. It just grates against people's expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769169
Have you tried S ranking 2-3 boss or leveling at 3-3-A?
I just scrapped my 10th Imuya today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769115
>Akitsumaru

Hey now, her remodel is really cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769119
Kaga's homey dumpiness is a miracle of the universe.

>>11769146
> people love to argue about how Kaga is still the best and Taihou is shit.
The projection is strong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769179
Please no, she's the most creepy kanmusu I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769177
I do it all the time. Dropped Akagi and Ooi several times during my 2-3 boss runs, 3-3A drops only common destroyers. All I need is patience, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Kaga design was ok. The side ponytail looks good. Her benchmark is fat glutton and dragon sisters. Her personality is also cool and steady and she always shit on the 5th cardiv. She also used to have the best stats so everyone use her and warm up to her.

I401 doesnt have all this at all. She is benchmark against shobon subs and she is just too different from them. Due to her high consumption, she wouldn't be used for 2-3. She would only be used for clearing maps with subs and then shoved outside until the new map that required sub cheesing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769171
Not really, I know almost all the Imuya/Goya lines except the time lines and I love them all, cant get tired of them and they just feel right but I cant get used to I-401's lines or art, I find her art disappointing and I dont like it one bit.

I wont say her voice/lines are bad but they're definitely not for me, thats for sure.

>>11769179
She really looks like a zombie touhou, you cant deny this. Put her in a Wo suit and everyone will think she's an abyss ship because of how pale she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769186
Funny thing is I actually had Imuya drop 3 times for me in one run of 3-3. Isn't she dropping pretty constantly in E-1 now though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769169
Try leveling at 3-3A, I got plenty of them there.
Also got one from a event boss, E2 I think.

The rest were from when I was trying to craft for goya, got like 4 Imuyas before getting Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769187
I plan to use her on rotation for my 2-3, even after refit. 2-3 sub rotation is now quite plausible, and frankly, that reduction in downtime easily offsets the increase in consumption from 401 kai.

I want to beat 2-3 dailies faster, and Shioi can easily play a part in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769193
Her E-1 drop rate is highly exaggerated, unfortunately. Sure, some people get her copies, but she isn't common at all. I'll just stick to 2-3 fuel runs and grind some ships on 3-3. And pray to RNG gods even harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769193
Only Kako drops at E-1, took me 1.5 day to get a single Akigumo and I haven't seen any other rare drop there.

[Anonymous No.]

.>>11769149
We hit the image limit, make new thread

[Anonymous No.]

> Due to her high consumption, she wouldn't be used for 2-3.

Not everyone cares about maximizing the gain at 2-3. I personally use a 4 sub team, alternating between Shioi and Hachi, and the rest of the girls with their duplicates, which gets the daily and weekly quests out of the way very quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769207
We have at least 12 hours left in this thread if not more. If people really want to show images they can use Imgur or similar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769198
Shioi's repair times are higher than the other subs because of the whole starting as a SSV thing so you would be better doing dailies with Imuya and SS Goya/Iku.

>>11769207
We're on page 7, this thread can still last a day or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769202
Just remember the RNG faeries detect your desires. I did 100+ runs of 4-2 and way more in 3-3 hoping for Goya. Once I got one from E-2, not only did she drop again 3 times in E-2 she dropped again when I did 4-2 to complete my weeklies.

[Anonymous No.]

http://imgur.com/DDyAOmg
Should I, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Been farming E-3 for a day or two for Iku now, is it possible that drops are tied to admiral level? Only 27 right now, and gettin' pretty frustrated with this silver background bait and switch into shit I don't want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769208
3 sub team is good enough for daily and weekly if you dont care about S rank for Makigumo/Imuya/Hiryuu farm.

Hachi flagship
Imuya 2x
Goya 2x
Iku 2x

I have 6subs to rotate for 2slots. No downtime at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769222
Go for it, good luck anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769222
20 devmats and go

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769223
HQ level does not affect your drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769222
Do it. We are all waiting for you at the Taihou club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769223
The event is easier for sub30 admirals but you'll get worse drops.
Gets harder for people over 30 but they get better drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769228
What's wrong with 100?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769214
I roll with 3x SSVs all the time. Downtime is about 10 minutes per 1 hp dmg... maybe that's why I don't notice Shioi being SSV right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769223
No Zuikaku and Mikuma from E3 for me. I am definitely sure that 5-2 is actually easier than E3 (150 bauxite per run instead though)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769224
That's great, but I'll stick to my 4 subs team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769187

>high consumption

It's only 1.5 more than any of the regular subs. It adds up but it's really miniscule.

She also has higher health and armor than any of the subs along with an average torpedo stat.

[Anonymous No.]

does CV anti air stat affect fighter combat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769249
Whatever floats your boat man, 5-2 does give shittons of admiral experience as a by product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769249
What do you use to farm 5-2?

[Anonymous No.]

I just want a shoukaku from E-2

I already burned through 20k and 100 buckets

[Anonymous No.]

6/5/7/2/20 vs 4/6/6/3/20?
How? Go for the untested recipe or go with the one with huge sample?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769222
Results?

>>11769237
It's a waste and devmat is much harder to regen than resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769255
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat#Fighter_Combat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769254
It minimises the amount of fuel you get per 2-3 run even more.

>>11769268
Do Taihou LSC, you have chances to get her as a failure so you don't feel too bad for not crafting Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769268

If I could, I'd give you one. Hell, I could give you five, if you offer me Suzuya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769263
Akagi, Kaga, Chiyoda. Put Reppu and Shiden Kai2 on first 2 slots and stuff. I usually have Nagato and Kongou with the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769237
You use 5x the devmats yet you don't get the same increase in craft rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769274
Doesn't that mean there's pretty much zero reason to modernise your CVs to max AA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769231
It does for event maps, since the level determine how hard the enemies are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769275
I already did 9 attempts and got nothing so far that I already didn't have with the exception of akitsu maru

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769268
If you don't get any net loss of buckets it doesn't matter how many buckets you use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769286
But there's an appreciable amount of increase, at least for certain recipes, and you don't spend 5x the resources with it, so it's not worthless.

>>11769287
Are you not afraid of Dauntlesses, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

I forgot my DMM account email and password so I can't log into kancolle now. I see they have a 'forgot password', but can I recover the email? It was one that I had saved in my browser but it's been lost. I don't play with API key

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769271
http://imgur.com/niQmbAA
Welp the last CV I didn't have.
Can't say I'm disappointed, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769308
Cant remember email, cant remember password and dont have an API link.

It sounds like you're fucked to me, go dig your emails and see if you can find anything from DMM there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769314
100 dev mats? Should've went 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769275

It only costs at most 14 fuel with 401 and any other sub. I'm only losing a few more fuel using 401 but really, the difference is small unless you go south, in which case you're fucked anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

World 3 down. Now to decide between beating 4-2 through 4-4 and farming E-2 with 5 subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769321
Yes the difference is small but we are talking about 10-20runs per day or 100+runs per week. They easily add up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769321
That's why you do this with the dailies. You can't really lose if you have dailies to clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769321
In case you forgot the fuel that 2-3 yields is also pretty shitty and an extra fuel consumption makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769326
Fog ships especially Iona is great for map clearing. Use them while they're still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769326
If you have problems clearing maps, you should be utilising fog ships to clear maps before they're rid of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769348
I haven't even tried to beat world 4. My first page is 60+ so I wouldn't expect it to be all that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769354
3-4 is harder than 4-4. 4-4 is easy if you have good DD

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769354
5-3 is sub-cheese-able Fall E-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769327
>>11769339

I concede, every little counts then.

>>11769361

It may not save you from the pre-boss node or the BB on the first node if she hits your DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

I just hit Lvl 20 is it worth trying to craft anything good?
Is I-401 going to be available again?
I should be able to finish E-2 today but it seems like all id do is waste mats on repair if i try E-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769371
>Is I-401 going to be available again?
Probably about the same time it will take them to add Musashi into LSC.

Just clear events if you're capable, and this event that scales based on HQ level should allow for clears even by lower level admirals unlike previous events.

[Anonymous No.]

Is 401's consumption increased after remodel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11768355
Ignore this retard, yes the repair time goes up but realistically by high levels even "normal" sub repair times break an hour easily, so you're either waiting 1h+ regardless of SS/SSV, or using a bucket in which case repair time doesn't matter anyways.

The ability to put two torpedos on subs is worth it alone, making them actually DO DAMAGE holy shit, and also allows them to do cut-ins at night. Especially nice on Goya, but just about every sub has above-average luck. Additionally, the massive survivability boost is worth it as well, from the additional hp/armor to the much higher evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally got Harlock to lvl65.

Time to start clearing world 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769377
Yes, about 1.5 times

>>11769379
They only break one hour barely at about lvl80, which is the time I think is best for you to just remodel them since you'd probably be bucketing anyway.

Armor is only increased by one or none, don't be misinformative. There's definitely an increase in evasion, but when I still see my unremodeled Iku evading the same amount of hits as my Imuya that's just about 10 levels below her I wonder if it's even worth it.

It's not just about the time, it's also about resources used. Remodeled subs(except Imuya) uses more ammo than before remodeling. They also cost more to repair(this is negligible though since they usually don't get hit often).

Personally I still feel skeptical about remodeling subs so I'm keeping them as they are. I'm too lazy to go through E-3 enough time to find myself another Iku anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769390
anyone who doubts remodeled subs is completely ignorant of the increased torpedo damage and the possibility for cut-ins to S rank boss nodes

[Anonymous No.]

Who's going to be my timekeeper after they remove Takao?
God damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769398
Well, if you're into sub cheesing things. I man up and use a proper fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769390
Fuel and ammo? Guess she won't be useful for 2-3 at all. I was planning to take her after remodel because I thought her consumption will be similiar to other SSVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769400
Make sure you have every other ship scrapped when the event ends, so that she can't disappear. It's a flawless plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769401
If you're going to cheese resources you might as well cheese bosses too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769406
I'm pretty sure there're people desperate enough to pull that, and there'll be tears when it turns out that they'll remove them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769400
Why is Imuya not your timekeeper yet?

>>11769402
Yes, fuel and ammo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769407
i don't even cheese 3-2-A

right now i'm level 80 and my fleet is level 70 and my sortie win rate is something like 95% with no sub running whatsoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769406
What if I send them to long expedition like 80-hour one? And do that in every maintenance just in case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769401
you mean you're retarded, like a proper male, and needlessly waste resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769402
She isnt.
After I cleared 5-3, I havent use her at all.
She really need to a buff as a I401. She is supposed to be the biggest badass and the most advanced sub of her time just like Taihou is for carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769400
Goya and Imuya are my timekeepers, they still are.

I would love to use one of the fog ships but they cost too much to sortie and im constantly doing 2-3 sub runs.

I wish to hear Iona's voice forever, I wish we could keep her.
Maybe they could do a cosmetic skin that turns I-401 into Iona, that would be so good.
Too bad its never going to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769420
Get out, shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769434
nice try but I'm just stating exactly what he is
people who think being wasteful is to 'man up' are clearly primitive apes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769440
you are all literally wasting your time to make numbers in a game go up

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769413
Because I like her and her idle line makes me sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769445
Yes. And pretending that one way of doing it is more 'manly' is just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769457
pressing the cookie in cookie clicker 50,000 times is more "manly" than having a bot do it for you even if the end result is the same and you're a retard for doing so

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769449
司令官、イムヤのこと嫌いになったの？

Thats so incredibly cute and adorable, I love her so much.
She might not be the best sub but she's still my favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769457
>>11769463
Stop derailing and shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769420
>like a proper male
So what are you, a girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769469
sometimes threads naturally go on tangents because people found something they were more interested in than hearing about how you ran e2 for the 90th time and still didn't get the ship you wanted boo hoo cry me a fucking river

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769464
>司令官、イムヤのこと嫌いになったの？
Nah Imuya, I like you that's why I keep you idling in my office

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769471
That's probably Kuugen. I can't think of any other girl who would actually post on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769475
Goya's is incredibly adorable too, they're both incredibly adorable.

I love Iku too but I prefer Imuya and goya.

てーとく、ゴーヤ、さみしいよぉ

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769484
I like Goya but her facial expression doesn't really seem to match her voice, very unfortunately.

But she is definitely one of my favorite ships

[Anonymous No.]

Man, Mutsuki-class destroyers suck. I didn't even know cut-ins could do zero damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769502
Yeah, she should have a cuter and more energetic facial expression instead of a serious one but I still love her.

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk with Imuya makes me wonder if I have a weird RNG at work.
I'm 2-3 subbing ever since level 50 and I'm level 95 with 0 imuya drop, but 3 Makigumo and 2 hiryuu on the boss node.
I dropped Imuya only once and that's on 3-3.

Meanwhile, I dropped 6 Iku (not counting fall event reward), 5 Goya (3 with this event)...
Wasn't she supposed to be common?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769515
Look at where Imuya drops in the event, and think about where you farmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769518
After 40 runs in E1 in hope for having a duplicate, I gave up. I kept having trash and sometimes Akigumo, and that's that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769481
>Girl
Dont you mean self hating guy who pretends to be a girl? Or a massive bulldyke. Either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769539
there is so much proof of her being neither that nobody really bites on that. not even on /u/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769539
Or hermaphrodite.

Stranger things have happened.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a map where you can farm dev kits?
How do you get dev kits anyway, besides quests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769553
I haven't seen any pictures where she has her pants or skirts off but there was never any bulge, and I checked, so I find that unlikely

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769561
2-4.
Expeditions, go with expedition 20.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769521
>>11769515
The same shit happened with me. Imuya never dropped on 2-3 and I managed to get only one (my first) from 3-3 (and it was after Mutsu dropping). Then I did about 80 runs on E-1 for two more Imuya.

[Anonymous No.]

So who do you guys use for your expeditions?
Do you just use ships you like, ships with the lowest ammo/fuel consumption or just slap the first thing you see there and send them away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607

Ones I like and lower consumption for filler.

I always have Akitsu Maru Kai for the big ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
Combination of first and third option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
Mixture of both.
like: Akatsuki DD for non ammo expeditions
optimisation: duplicate sub and maruyu + yuubari for CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769610
Also DDs and CLs I want to level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769609
That's one ship I haven't gotten. Zuikaku, Akitsumaru, Mikuma and Yamato are what I am missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
I used subs as filler.
Yuubari, Tenryu, Tatsuda and Houshou are my leader. I filled them with Mutsukis and DDs that I like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769621
Just do LCS for Taihou or Yamato and you'll get Akitsumaru as a unwanted guest

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
Always and only, the ships I like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
My Tenryuu and Tatsuta have their own day care center with cute DD. Subs are always sparkled for constant expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769624
I dont mind having her as failure
Fucking Yamato recipe keeps giving me 4:20 and 4:00. At least give me another boat or maruyu already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769623
How often can you do an attempt to craft for Taihou?

I sortie regularly and only find myself being able to squeeze a Taihou recipe once every 2 or 3 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
Tenryuu, Akatsukis and Ayanamis

[Anonymous No.]

http://postimg.org/image/54fm796kd/
Would this be good for 4-4? Should I replace Iona with Ooi?

I have Shigure loaded with ASW gear, and sanshikidan equipped on takao and Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

How does one get Hibiki?

Seriously; I manage to have the Crane Sisters and yet Hibiki is nowhere to be found.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769643

Make Shigure flag, put Kongou 2nd or 3rd. Put Poi 5th or 6th.

Keep Iona

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769644
Hibiki evaded me for the longest time. After I stopped caring, I got her from 1-1 boss node while doing sparkle runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
My first few destroyers. They might have lost their usefulness in battle, but scrapping them or letting them rot away in storage is a heartless thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769644
>http://postimg.org/image/54fm796kd/
Drop Iona and bring a CV. Actually I recommend dropping ktkm to put another CV too. You need AA for the pre-boss node but I am sure it can still works with your current setup, maybe you will take more damage at the air phase.

You will only face off with troll sub for the final kill so you might not need the ASW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769644
Said no one ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769607
I've been leveling and remodeling my Mitsukis for that marginal ammo consumption improvement with the intention of phasing them into expedition fleets over DDs I would prefer to have on hand for sorties, but good gods even their vanilla Kai strength is terrible. They're getting there, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769660
>>11769651
Hmm that's kind of conflicting. I guess I'll try >>11769651 and judge how much more AA I need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769664
No seriously.

It's the most maddening thing ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769683
>>11769644
Did you just start or something? I bet you are lvl10 or below and are just complaining about having rare ships and no common ships.

[Anonymous No.]

Just to confirm, in 5-2 the B->G or B->C node is completely random right?

I just got sent to G about 4/5 times in a row and I really hate battling G node and just refreshed but I'm not really gaining anything out of this because I'm aiming for admiral rank exp.

1DD, 1BB, 1CLT, 1CVL, 2CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769688
Started mid December, am level 26 right now.

So you were close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769675

My advice (shigure flag etc) can be adjusted based on the extent to which you struggle on ASW versus AA.

I personally ran a Maya, Kongou with 46 cms, and Kiso and Shigure with 2 10 mm green, so I never had trouble had AA.

Iona is advantageous as a tank, a substitute CLT, and a guaranteed attack on a non-sub during the night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769675
It depends on how easy you want it to be.
CVs pack huge damage during opening air phase and can 1shot the BB that you face at the pre boss node. The drawback, you pay more for it compare to CLT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769503
>zero damage
Say what? That seems like a miss to me. They should at least do scratch damage.

Also, they're great for expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769545
Oh, okay. New theory then, molested by their father so they hate men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769515
Try crafting her? I crafted my first two Imuyas and Goyas before 2-3 dropped me my 3rd Imuya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769718
she visits her dad for a full week twice a year and she always speaks nice of him. she does hate males like a plague otherwise so the abuse angle makes no sense in any direction

just stop, other boards and threads and anons have tried to put some weird explanation on "Why does Kuugen hate men" when the answer is just "Because she can"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769575
Wait... There was pics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769643
Spam 1-1. I think I've done it like 1k+ times already. Got all the possible common drops there, including Hibiki. I think I used like 10 in modernisation already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769696
Have you cleared E-3 yet? Clear it first before the difficulty spike comes the moment you reach level 30.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769635
>>11769627
>>11769622
I'm glad we can all agree Tenryuu is great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769730
She posted various pics of herself with stupid stuff. Like one time she wrote something on her forehead because she couldn't find any paper. Iirc it was someone's username in IRC ala <name> sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769735
Not yet but I should; been busy with things though but I'll get a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769725
What a boring answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769701
Hmm ok, I tried it after sticking AA gear on my destroyers and took almost no damage in the opening air wave, so maybe I'll stick with this. Too bad Kongou took a crit from the wo soon after.

>>11769708
I'd mainly be worried because I don't have great planes. No Ryuusei kai-ni or Reppuu, only one Shiden kai-ni and Suisei 12A.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769644
Funny thing, same thing happened for me, but it was for Haguro. I had to run at least 20 times before I got her to complete my fleet comp quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769738
She has all the curves in the right places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769748
Kuugen is.... something alright, so its actually really strange that the answer is a plain one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769745
Forehead? Did anyone managed to see a picture of the person itself then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769422
>badass

Your obsession with that concept is unnerving. Stop projecting your desires on moe shipdaughters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769754
the picture was of the whole head
and there were 6 or 7 full body pictures in various outfits. there was even a cleavage shot, I think I still have somewhere
the only thing we're missing is a bikini shot but she's not the type to upload one

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769754
>>11769753
>>11769748
>>11769745
Can you guys take your offtopic shit no one cares about somewhere else?
We're in the kancolle thread and this has nothing to do at all with the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769696
>>11769644
I managed to get Shimakaze at 11, meanwhile I can't find Kongou for the life of me.

I just want to complete these quests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769761
It is based on historical fact.
She was sub that has enough fuel to travel the world carrying a bomber to bomb the shit out of US homeland.
A girl that looks like she just come out from Comic LO cover just doesnt cut it.

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently luck stat upgrade is retained even if you upgrade your ship.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22570903

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769776
Are you one of those people who would just prefer that this game have pictures of ships instead of giving them boobs/washboards and a kawaii uguu face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769784
As long as they kept the dialogue I'd be down for that.

But we still have the Fog Nagara for the ship aficionados, so Kancolle covers even that base. Being able to cater to every fetish is one of the marks of a great franchise, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769809
>>11769809
>>11769809

NEW THREAD!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769810
Even though it's only page 8?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769810
We're on page 8, we dont need a new thread.
Go away

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769811
>>11769815
Image limit reached like 200 posts ago, also it loads slows for those using 4chanX after 1000 we are at 1500~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769811
>>11769815
Please calm your autism. I'm sure the abandoned shitposting thread that got bumped won't mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769819
Is this your first time here?
This is not /a/, a new thread is only created when this one gets to page 10 or sometimes 9.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769720
All my sub crafts were Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769819
How can you not be able to maintain a page with 150 icons, 2 ads, a gif and some text ?

And if you really want to brag about your latest drop, use imgur or the likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769819
>Image limit reached like 200 posts ago, also it loads slows for those using 4chanX after 1000 we are at 1500~
My shitty phone loads the thread fine, I don't really understand how you could have a computer so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769828
From experience in the VN thread, it's usually just created once the bump or image limit is hit.

>>11769833
People on mobile maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769831
Keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769819
Or we could act like civilized people, upgrade our toasters, delete our images, not post shitty art, and link to our images offsite.

The first time someone said, "This thread is almost at 2500 posts, we should make a new one even though it's only at page 9," I knew the next person would say, "This thread is almost at 2000 posts, we should make a new one." And so on, and so forth: 1500 posts, 1000 posts, image limit--pretty soon it's going to be, "Bump limit, new thread." This is a slow board, as evidenced by the fact these threads can grow to 2000 posts in the first place, and you're just clogging it with unnecessary threads rather than using perfectly functional extant ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769835
So it is your first time here then.
Leave the thread making to someone else, someone actually competent at this.

If you really must share a image, use a image hosting website like the above anons or delete one of your posts, there's no need to make one when this one can still last a whole day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769831
Farm E-1? I have four Imuya drops there already. I wish I could keep all of them, but my fleet is full as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769844
>So it is your first time here then.
I didn't make the thread, and no.
You guys are retarded to care about this. Nobody has ever fucking cared about this until these threads when you fags came from some other board, made up a fictional board culture here, and started trying to enforce it. Just fuck off.

>If you really must share a image, use a image hosting website like the above anons or delete one of your posts, there's no need to make one when this one can still last a whole day.
Just post on 2ch then. This is an imageboard. People post images. It's stupid to have to go to another service when youre on an IMAGEBOARD

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if someone sunk their Kitakami by accident.

http://imgur.com/N4jRxDf

[Anonymous No.]

Who gives a shit?
Are you protecting a yuyuko poop thread from dropping off the board?
Take your bawwwwwwww we cant have more kancolle thread to /q/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769859
People tend to sink CLTs a lot in events for some reason, especially kitakami so its possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769859
I have a low level KTKM and Ooi too, slowly raising them to steal their torps.

[Anonymous No.]

First image posted in new thread is just a damaged Taihou sprite. Why not a fanart at least?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769871
I should do that too, I need better torpedos

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769869
>>11769871
I've been watching this Kitakami since lvl2, now she's lvl5. Stay strong unknown admiral, you'd get her back to 50 soon.

[Anonymous No.]

The wiki has some ASW plane that can be equipped on CAVs, can you attack subs with CAVs if you equip them with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769879
They can attack subs with Zuiun and Seiran too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769879
Why don't you try it out yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769881
Oh might try it then, thank you. Hope I can finally get Kumano from this event to hunt subs with her, Kiso and Shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769843
Uh, wasn't it always the case that we made new threads at 150 posts like the last few times? The reason the 2500 posts thread went that far in the first place was because the image limit wasn't hit yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769784
No but they have traits and design that suit their ships.
Like Shimakaze stockings and speed due to her lack of clothings.
Fusou class pig disgusting pagoda.
Yukikaze binocular for her to look at sinking ships.
I401 doesnt have any of these at all. I mean a fucking leaking minisub bag? The fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769906
But I like the pagoda

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769902
Nope, threads before that used imgur when image limit was reached.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769877
Or maybe that person is like me, I have level 99 Kitakami and Ooi, and I'm leveling another two for spares. Second Kitakami is at 45 now, but probably won't remodel her to kai ni so I can tell which one is the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769902
No. Threads since the Arpeggio mini-event have been made before the old thread fell off the board. Before then threads were allowed to fall off the board before a new thread was made.

I won't make any declarations or claims, but if you consider the first few posts in the "new" thread, it should be obvious who is making these new threads before the old one dies, and why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769902
Yes, we totally needed a new thread to post pictures of taihou and kaga, that is exactly what we needed.

If you want to post tons of pictures of your ship waifu and have waifu wars then just head over to /a/ and no one will complain about the image limit or making a new thread because the board is faster and the limits are bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769919
If you want to complain about meta, bring it to ghost

[Anonymous No.]

A thread talking about Kancolle outside of Japan.
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/236987273.htm

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769946
Are they okay with sharing their cute shipgirls with gaijins like us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11767617
How's it going now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769906
If you really want to get all history about it, the I-400 subs never actually accomplished anything beyond dumping Seiran in the ocean and getting used as target practice to keep their tech out of Soviet hands.

I-401 is a small town girl who got the newest toys, but by that time, they were already going out of style. Just couldn't keep up with the latest trends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769919
If you want to complain about the type of posts, complain about that. The fact that a new thread is made isn't the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769954
The fact that a new thread was made so someone could post cute pictures of Taihou and Kaga is the problem.

/a/ is there for that kind of thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769958
Funny, because it seems to me that /jp/ was always about that type of thing. Most of the Touhou threads are imagedumps, and it's been that way forever.

Posting cute pictures is also kancolle discussion, and belongs on /jp/ along with everything else here. The waifu wars aren't the highest quality posts, but that's a separate problem.

The /a/ thread honestly shouldn't exist in the first place, since nobody talks about the anime.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

If anyone know, what 空きドック supposed to mean?
It's a column in the construction report and i don't know what is the appropriate translation.

>>11769947
Except a few quirks that need to be sorted out, logbook is pretty much done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769967
If you want a thread to post your images in then just make one for Taihou/whatever ship you want, instead of using the thread meant for game discussion or go to /a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769980
Seems to be "(free) dock space"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769980
Empty docks left, I suppose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769967
Character discussion, image spam and waifu wars go in /a/.
Manga/4koma dumps go in there too because the image limit is bigger and it allows you to dump several chapters and still have a lot of space.

Or if you want to image dump pictures because you felt to then just make a new threre and leave the thread meant for game discussion alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769980
>logbook is pretty much done.
Great, really looking forward to it.
Should be some really good stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769981
>>11769987
Since when the thread is "game discussion only" though ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769987
Nobody make you the mod.
Why dont you move Touhou to /c/ and /a/ and idolshit to /s/ too in the meantime?
It is fucking retarded to try to minimod an anonymous imageboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769981
You've got a point there, just like there's no rule that people have to wait until page ten to make a new thread there's also no rule saying you can't make extra threads. I don't mind those kind of posts but I come to this specific thread for more serious discussion and even wasting the image limit bragging about crafts is nowhere near as intrusive.

>>11769995
Since always? Every link in the OP is gameplay related and even though it isn't officially stated anywhere we've never spoken about anything else. The reason why the /a/ threads thrive in the first place is probably because they do what this general doesn't. Make a different thread if you want to talk about how perfect Kaga is, I'd help out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769981
I told you I didn't make the thread.
>or go to /a/
I do, and I don't start waifu wars or imagedumps in either thread. But again, it doesn't actually belong on /a/. So telling people to go there because that's where it's "supposed" to go is just wrong. But this is besides the point. There are legitimate reasons to make a new thread, and you're fighting it for absolutely no good reason besides that, as far as I can tell, you would prefer nobody to have the ability to post images at all. In which case you should just leave 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769946
Even the Japanese are complaining about Korean/Chinese stuff appearing on e-hentai before the Japanese raws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769948
At least one of them thinks it's a Japanese person that edits the "Great Britain wiki."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770003
>There are legitimate reasons to make a new thread
Like what? For images you can post to imgur and a shitty toaster can load a 2k post thread fine if you 4chan x with the update feature.
There's no reason to flood the board with threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769995
Its not "Game discussion only" its mostly for game discussion and other game related things.

Its pretty stupid to make a new thread when this one is far from dying just because someone really wanted to post random art they found and discuss how perfect their shipwaifu is, just make a new separate thread here on /jp/ or do it on /a/ where a lot of people will see the thread and join in.

You get your thread to discuss how perfect your ship is, we get to keep our thread for actual discussion and everyone ends up happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>Also, please be considerate with those screencaps. At least delete them when they're not relevant anymore.

>To non-/jp/-regulars: /jp/ has its own standards for posting. It would be greatly appreciated if you could follow them. These include, but are not limited to discouraging the use of most emoticons and proper use of the quoting function (don't use it for bullet points: greentexting).

Why was this part removed from the OP anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770011
>For images you can post to imgur and a shitty toaster can load a 2k post thread fine if you 4chan x with the update feature.
It's an imageboard you dumbshit. I told you before, it's stupid to have to use imgur when you're on an imageboard where the main feature is, you know, posting images. Also, at least on my phone autoupdating does not work, although I don't usually browse from my phone. People are in different situations, and you're fighting it purely out of autism.

>There's no reason to flood the board with threads.
Threads on page 10 are worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770013
Because people from /a/ started flooding over when they couldn't find a Kancolle thread on their board, instead of making a new one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770013
I didn't even notice that. That is a very good question, it needs to be added back and enforced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770023
No, they're not. We're clearly using this one right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770029
If a thread still has discussion going on at page 10, it mean a new one will be made. So yes, worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770025
And now they're making them here instead of making them in their own board, great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770023
>It's an imageboard you dumbshit. I told you before, it's stupid to have to use imgur when you're on an imageboard where the main feature is
It's not 4chans only feature there's discussion too, this site stopped being only used for image dumps a long time ago.

>>11770023
>Threads on page 10 are worthless.
They're not and it would be rude to flood /jp/ with multiple Kancolle threads that would push other threads off the board.

>>11770033
A new one can be made after the thread 404's it's really not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770001
>Since always ?
Nice way to show you're here since a few weeks.
I made the first few OP and trust me that copypasta wasn't here since the beginning.

The demographic and usage sure changed, we don't need to repost those chartswith the wiki, and most of the /jp/-browsing player-base isn't excited about that Shimakze or Kongou drop anymore, sure.
But that doesn't mean you're allowed to turn the thread into a "kancolle game mechanics" no fun allowed kind of thread.

Man, when did /jp/ forgot how to take it easy ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770033
On page 10 sure, we're on page 8 if you didn't notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770029
>1578/151/8
Actually the thread is at page 8, which is even more of a reason not to make a new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770033
Discussion can continue while on page 10, and often does. Your criteria for a thread's worth is arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770037
>flood
Two threads is not a flood. The VN general has done it for years. Stop making up /jp/ custom.

>It's not 4chans only feature there's discussion too, this site stopped being only used for image dumps a long time ago.
The feature is to be able to post images along with discussion, not to image dump. There's a reason nobody uses the text boards. You could post imgur links there too right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770052
Then go back to your VN thread, no one cares about them.
You're in the Kancolle thread with different people if you didnt notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770052
It wouldn't just be two threads if we made one at 150 images.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus if this keeps up we'll use up the last 2 pages' time just arguing about this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770038
I wonder if people even checked the Guides pastebin and noticed one of the images have been removed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770038
Well, I made the version with that /jp/ etiquette blurb at the end, and I never intended to turn these threads into "no fun allowed" sort of place. It was mostly targeted at emotes and greentexts, anyways.

Join us oldies in the other thread. We're taking it easy there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770055
I don't care about what shitty culture you brought from /vg/ or wherever the fuck you came from, because this is /jp/. Last thread you tried to argue that /jp/ always tried to keep threads past the image limit as if you had been here for years. You're just plain wrong.

>>11770056
Perhaps not, but the new thread at the moment was made at a reasonable time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769911
>>11769916
>>11769919
Fair enough.

>>11769914
Hey, I intend to do that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770057
The previous thread suffered a similar fate, I think. It's a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. We need a new thread because the current thread turns to metashit when the new thread is made too soon for some people's liking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770069
/vg/ makes threads as soon as they hit the bump limit without caring if they bump a general off the board or not and a 'Reasonable time' is not 'Someone make a new thread, I cant post my images like this'.

[Anonymous No.]

Wacky japs.
http://www42.atpages.jp/kairo/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770064
You didn't need to worry about emoticons because they're frowned on even in /a/. I always wondered about the greentexting part because there were many other threads on /jp/ that didn't discourage greentexting in any way.

Can't we have multiple Kancolle /jp/ threads with different rule enforcements? Like what Touhou has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770084
~1500 posts isn't a reasonable time?
People have mentioned other reasons for a new thread. You just dismissed them as "I don't have that problem, so nobody could possibly have that problem".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770096
>Can't we have multiple Kancolle /jp/ threads with different rule enforcements? Like what Touhou has.
Really, the /a/ thread shouldn't exist, and there should be multiple kancolle threads in /jp/, one of which is a pure game thread. But /a/ is too scared of being bullied out of /jp/ so they make threads there instead. The mods should just moderate it more strictly, since at the moment /jp/ is nothing but a slow /jp/, plus some weird 3d otaku stuff like kigurumi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770108
nothing but a slow /a/*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770097
No one cares about the amount of posts here, you have to look at the page.

Ask yourself, is the thread on page 10?
If the answer is no then there's no need for a new one

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770120
>No one cares about the amount of posts here
People clearly do, since they mention problems with the page loading slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770126
The one person who said they're on mobile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770126
Then dont go mobile?
If you cant load a thread that only has text and 150 icons then you have worse problems and shouldnt be worrying about the threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770135
Sure
>>11770139
Or a slow connection. The disadvantages to you when an extra thread is made early(A thread about which Touhou's ass you would lick gets dropped off, you have to transition to the new thread sometime in the next few hours) are pretty insignificant. I think sacrificing those is worth having the ability to post images and having faster loader times.

In fact, if the new thread is made early, that actually decreases the chance that a conversation gets cut off midway through, so that's another advantage.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11769984
>>11769985
looks like it's a value whether your have empty dock space or not, i'll leave it in japanese for now.

>>11769994
here, a preview: http://i2.minus.com/iMPVjvZcuuMlw.jpg

using logbook and KCV didn't seem to be a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770149
If you cant load a thread with 1600 thread then you certainly cant play kancolle because it runs horribly on toasters and takes like 15 minutes per sortie, its horrible.

I played my first month of kancolle on a toaster that took 10 minutes per sortie and where 2-3 farming was impossible because how long it took. Better just doing dailies and training ships on 3-2.

It sucked for playing but I could load these threads perfectly without problems so I don't see the problem with these "loading times".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770160
That looks great, is the log function working too?

Logging everything in english and all that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770167
Loading times is about connection speed anon, not computer speed. Big threads also take a lot of memory, but that's a different problem. Your bottleneck was in one place, but other people might have different bottlenecks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770174
My connection was and still is 1mb because I cant get anything better, you'd have to be on dialup or some shit to have trouble loading these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770108
If we have different rule enforcements for different threads (pure game thread, general thread, waifu/imagedump threads, etc), /a/ should have no reason to fear being bullied out of /jp/ threads.

Manga/anime stuff like the 4-koma should stay on /a/ because they belong there. Light novels like Kagerou: Setting Sail! can be on /a/ or /jp/. But that's about it.

Speaking of rule reinforcements, why is greentexting discouraged on this particular /jp/ thread when I don't see this situation in other /jp/ threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770180
And I'm sure you have the worst possible connection out of anybody on 4chan ever. Congratulations.

>>11770188
>why is greentexting discouraged on this particular /jp/ thread when I don't see this situation in other /jp/ threads?
It's disliked everywhere. It's just been going for so long that people have stopped caring except when it comes to the more grievous offenses like multi-line greentext stories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770188
There's no need to split these threads, they are perfect like it is.

People just have to take it easy with the imagedumps, delete their images when they're not relevant anymore and make a new thread when the old one hits 10 and we'll be all good again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770174
>Loading times is about connection speed anon, not computer speed.
On a toaster, initial loading time for thread can be a bit long depending on your browser. I can attest to that because I played Kancolle and load the thread on firefox on my 7 years old laptop. That said, once the initial load is done, it is pretty smoothsailing except for the game. I think those who are complaining about slow loading time are just impatient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770210
> I think those who are complaining about slow loading time are just impatient.
Perhaps, I actually think that the most likely problem would be memory though. Especially if you expand images and your browser caches them. Firefox easily takes 500+ megabytes for me when I have multiple 4chan tabs open.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770209
Or make new threads to imagedump like the Atago/Takao one. Which I assumed is what he meant by splitting threads. Certainly there's no need to make a new thread for posting a couple images.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11770172
equip name or everything regarding the game data itself is still in japanese, even the ship names are sometimes revert/stuck to japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770244
Oh yeah, some guy above added a logging function to KCV in english here >>11766970

Did you see that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770209
It's the event and LSC so we are hitting the image limit earlier, I think we predicted this before the event started. Once the dust settle, things will be back to normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770244
Well thats a shame, I was looking forward to a logging function in english.

And I wanted to ask, are you going to take the horizontal version of KCV too now that Resha cant work on it? He said here >>11765635 that you only needed to do some copy pasting to make it work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770195
Really? One-liners should be fine then, if that's the new normal.

>>11770209
Tell that to the Touhou fanbase. I await their reaction.

Also, since when was deleting images the norm on an imageboard?

>>11770237
Yeah, pretty much what I meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770339
As in manually deleting the image without deleting the rest of the post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770339
>Tell that to the Touhou fanbase. I await their reaction.
I would argue that it's a bit different. /jp/ was created due to Touhou so Touhou is /jp/'s raison d'etre, they got a free pass for it. Yes, it sounds hypocrtical but I wouldn't want Kancolle to really flood /jp/ board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770361
Who give a shit, stop policing these thread like it is your forum. Just go with the flow.
This was what killed comiket threads with all these stupid rule like discussion go there, this is for upload only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770361
>I wouldn't want Kancolle to really flood /jp/ board.
It will whether you like it or not. I'd rather it be sooner than later.

I think Touhou's better off having its own board like /mlp/ has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770429
The fact that we catered to those disgusting fuckers is appalling. That said, Touhou doesn't need its own board. If we give it a board, next thing we know everyone will be asking for a board.

[Anonymous No.]

Too bad faggots, Touhou is kill.

Kancolle >2hu

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>11770255
noted, i'll add them in later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11770361
We have multiple threads for im@s too, last I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

I think image limit is a perfectly valid time to create a new thread. I'd imagine even less than half the browsers of the thread follow external links.

That said, I do not suggest image dumping the entire thread so you need a new one when it is on page 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771036
What's stopping people from just flooding the thread with images whenever the discussion turns to something they don't like, or when they feel angry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771167
A separate thread for image dumping should curb this problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771205
I doubt it will. You see image dumps on /a/ all the time despite there being a /c/.

Did the STG threads ever have this problem?
I only came here for kancolle so I wouldn't know, but the Touhou threads I saw on /v/ had a lot of image dumping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771245
People don't usually crossboard just to image dump. Now, if there were specific image dumping threads on /a/ for a certain series and a general thread on /a/ for the same series, the latter will have a reduced image count. Ditto for the /v/ board for Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

So, to get back on topic fellow admirals, I had a question : if I put on my BB a double attack setup like three main guns, can I put another gun or torpedo in the fourth slot ? Or can I put a plane, a repair kit or must the fourth slot be empty for a double attack to happen ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771551
But 3 main guns wont trigger a double attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771551
Anything that can proc cut-ins won't proc double attacks. Planes/repair kits/etc won't affect double attack proccing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771551
read and understand the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771556
>>11771563
Shit, yeah right fuck ... Kinda skipped a line in the wiki.

>>117715
Ok thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Accuracy bonus from air radars apply to water level attacks as well, yes?

[Anonymous No.]

How the heck 2-3 farming with subs is supposed to work? My level ~40 subs (Iku, Imuya, Goya and Shioi) keep getting blasted to orange or red in the very first nodes. Do I need turbines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771636
you need more levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771647
That's what I was thinking... Clearly their evasion is too low, not sure about remodeling though. Back to 3-2-A I go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11771636
Do your subs have max armor and torps? Mine have and I have no problems clearing it with level 10+ subs.

Unless RNG screws me over and my level 40+ subs could end up in the same situation as yours, but that's pretty rare. Though when it rains, it pours, so they say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11769484
i love goya for
海の中からこんにちはー！　ゴーヤだよ！
its so cute and energetic