Touhou Game Discussion

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Touhou Game Discussion Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:03:14 No.11717691 [Reply] [Original]

I didn't see one, so let's have a thread dedicated to discussion of the touhou games themselves.

Feel free to ask for tips, brag (lie) about your best runs, or anything else related to the actual games themselves.

Myself, I've been trying to work my way up to 1CCing Mountain of Faith on Lunatic. Finally managed to get to a point where I can get past level 1 without dying. Too bad Hina is still pushing my shit in.

>>	「ロリあき」 Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:05:44 No.11717697 I've been without a computer so long, I forgot I can play again....

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:12:14 No.11717712

>>11717691

I feel like I'm doing something wrong while fighting her.

I've been trying to get past this part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-16EEv4u_ew&t=33s

But those aimed bullets always seem to herd me against a wall and leave no room for maneuvering or trying to get to the other side. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong in my movement.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:23:44 No.11717740

My very first Touhou game was 12.5, Fairy Wars. I didn't understand it at all. There weren't really any instructions. I kept dying over and over so I gave up. Later I downloaded the rest of the games and tried playing Stage 1 on each one. Then I understood the system a little better. Some of it was still really confusing though, like the youkai meter and time orbs in TH 8 IN. I studied the wikia and learned how to play the complex ones. I even beat a couple of them. Haven't 1CC'd any yet but I'm working on it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:29:44 No.11717749 >>11717740 The youkai meter and time orbs don't really matter in IN, unless you need more continues, or want to go for a high score.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:32:59 No.11717756 >>11717740 Fairy Wars is pretty much impossible unless you know how to freeze stuff properly. It's like trying to play STB without the camera. It just doesn't work.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:40:14 No.11717764

>>11717740
Faily Wars maingame I found quite dull. Hug bullets, freeze, shoot, freeze, repeat...

and then Extra happened, the best fucking Extra stage there is in the whole series. I beat it like 15 times. Try unlocking it.

>>11717756
>Fairy Wars is pretty much impossible unless you know how to freeze stuff properly.
YOU DON'T SAY. That's why you learn how to freeze stuff properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 20:53:59 No.11717781 File: 21 KB, 182x242, Kurt Angle (17).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11717764 But you get a gold medal if you never freeze. Such prestige and honor. True skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 21:32:47 No.11717846 >>11717691 Which Character and power do you all prefer in EoSD? And why?

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 21:45:46 No.11717869

>>11717846

Reimu, homing - Because she has smaller hitbox, is better at precise movement (in my opinion), and because I like how much easier homing makes the stages in between bosses at higher difficulties as well as the added mobility it gives you since you don't have to worry about positioning quite as much.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 21:59:51 No.11717899 >>11717846 Marisa, laser. I'm a sucker for piercing shots, and the wider range makes it more helpful than Magic Missle.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:01:50 No.11717905 God damn it, fuck Kanako. That woman is my brickwall, I cannot beat her in 1CC, it's fucking impossible. My brain just can't process it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:04:50 No.11717916 >>11717905 It would be easier if Zun put spell practice into MoF. Why did he have to cut one of the best things to come out of IN?

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:06:35 No.11717921

>>11717916

No kidding, I would kill for that. It just gets tiring repeating the same fucking Fairy sections over and over again once you've mastered them.

Although I suppose it does let me practice score whoring a bit more, but I'd rather have the option to skip it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:12:00 No.11717936 >>11717899 I've never honestly found piercing shots that useful in Touhou. Enemies just don't stack up that often, except for the minor fairies, and they die pretty much instantaneously. Any particular reason you like them best?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:21:22 No.11717953 Anyone have any tips for a person some what new to the game? I have been mostly focusing on playing EoSD trying to 1cc normal, but not doing very well farthest I have gotten without continue is Patchouli on stage 4. hahahaha.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:24:22 No.11717964

>>11717936
Honestly, I just think it's a cool shot type.
It tends to have decent range and damage, the piercing can be helpful in certain areas, and tends to look nice visually.
Plus it tends to be easier to use than the alternative, like magic missiles or whatever you want to call her B shot type in UFO.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:25:22 No.11717966 >>11717953 That's not too bad. What shot type are you using? The Patchy battle changes depending on the shot type you use against her.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:26:37 No.11717968 >>11717953 Play Lunatic for a few hours and then shift back down to normal. You don't need to be trying to 1CC or anything, just try and get as far as you can. When you shift back down to normal, you'll wonder how you ever found it hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:27:52 No.11717971 >>11717966 Oh yeah I know about that, I have mostly been using AReimu and some times BReimu >>11717968 Ok I will try it now.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:28:52 No.11717975 >>11717953 Learn what streaming is, use it, and love it. Always bomb. Its better to waste a bomb than to waste a life and 3 potential bombs with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:33:52 No.11717983 >>11717975 Can you send me something that would be helpful to learn about streaming?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 22:57:23 No.11718009 >>11717983 http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/General_Strategy First section. Also, watch some videos of people doing 1CC runs on higher difficulties. You'll notice the technique right away.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 23:08:38 No.11718027 >>11717983 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBYS5b5POgw

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 23:31:25 No.11718081 Beating Seija at her own game: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21614559 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21626996

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 23:37:40 No.11718097 >>11718009 >Also, watch some videos of people doing 1CC runs on higher difficulties. You'll notice the technique right away. No. Use your brain and figure the patterns out on your own.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 23:37:40 No.11718099 Is it just me, or does Youmu have the coolest bomb in the series in IN?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 17, 2013 23:38:11 No.11718101 >>11717869 Reimu's hitbox in EoSD isn't any smaller than Marisa's hitbox I believe.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:05:58 No.11718143

So what is everybody's opinion on DDC?

Also, I never understood spell decks in the fighting spin-offs, like Hisouentoku (hope I spelled it right), can someone explain? I know in SWR, you can change each card in the deck, but I cant see where to do so in the later ones, and I'm just wondering what difference it makes.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:21:00 No.11718173

>>11718143
Its just easy access to different card setups, the color of the deck doesn't actually matter like it does in HM.

I'm still not entirely certain on how HM's deck system works, but I know the different levels of faith change your shot types and some other stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:26:59 No.11718177 Which game would you guys recommend for a first time Touhou player? Should I start with the first or one of the more recent ones?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:30:15 No.11718180 >>11718177 Most people would say th08, but th07 is more beginner friendly in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:31:44 No.11718181 >>11718180 To be honest, I felt TD/th13 was easier... it's the only one I ever cleared on LU.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:33:29 No.11718182 >>11718180 Agreed. That's the only windows game my noob ass can 1cc on normal.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:33:29 No.11718183 >>11718177 PCB is best for beginners, some say 8, but 8 kind of forces you to 1cc it.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:34:44 No.11718185

>>11718173
From what I understand, equipping special abilities and equipable can increase your Taoist, Shinto, and Buddhist levels. If your Taoist levels are much higher than your Shinto or Buddhist levels, then your ranged attacks will become more powerful. High Shinto gives your ranged attacks homing. High Buddhist dramatically decreases the range on your ranged attacks, they'll better complement your melee attacks.

>>11718177
Most people recommend either TH6 or TH8 as starting places.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:36:14 No.11718188 >>11718183 Actually, on the contrary, 8 forces you to make at least one full run before allowing you to truly 1cc it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:37:29 No.11718191 >>11718181 Beginner friendly doesn't always mean easy, anon. I said PCB because it's gimmick is simple and helps you survive, the spellcards are pretty straightforward, not to mention it has sakuya A.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:37:29 No.11718192 >>11718180 >>11718183 >>11718185 Alright, thank you guys for the input.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:51:16 No.11718207 Which game should I devote my attention to for learning the series/genre? I've heard PCB and IN a lot, but have also heard EoSD since it's the first non-98 game.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:53:31 No.11718215

I'm sorry I just want to whine about something here.
Why is MoF so hard? It's even harder than EoSD. TH 09 sucks I don't like the battle things as I have a hard time killing my opponent. Also 10.5 is way harder than 7.5, how annoying and 9.5 is by far the most hard, any tips? Also how about the games after 10.5? I've only downloaded the ones until that one. Finally sorry it's my first time discussing in /jp/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:55:16 No.11718216 >>11718215 >Why is MoF so hard? It's even harder than EoSD. You're joking, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:57:31 No.11718220 >>11718216 I might be biased because no mater what I do in MoF I can't kill the last boss while in EoSD I can kill Remilia, it's just driving me nuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 00:58:01 No.11718223 >>11718216 It depends on the difficulty. I think Hard MoF is much worse than Hard EoSD. Saying 10.5 is harder than 7.5, on the other hand, is just plain absurd.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:01:31 No.11718225 >>11718223 Then would you give me some tips then? I'd really appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:10:46 No.11718233 >>11718225 For MoF or 10.5?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:34:05 No.11718288 >>11718287 download them all

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:34:20 No.11718287 Whats the best way to get into the game? Should I just download one randomly

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:36:50 No.11718293 >>11718287 We just answered this question. >>11718177

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:36:50 No.11718294 >>11718287 Get every single game, not even joking.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:38:50 No.11718297 yay touhou

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:55:23 No.11718328 >>11718099 I always found it kind of unsatisfying personally

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:56:51 No.11718330 >>11717712 do you stream?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:58:51 No.11718333 >>11718330 like, the character movement paradigm, not like showing your gameplay to people on the internet

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 01:59:36 No.11718334 >>11718233 Why not both? But 10.5 in priority

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:00:22 No.11718335

>>11718207
The best Touhou game you'd like would most likely be SoEW. Forget all fancy post Touhou 2 shit, this is where the peak is at. The rest of the series is simply just riding on a wave of awwesome set by this game. Let me list you why-

- Layers? This game is good for those. Not only do bullets layer with each other, but even the background and enemy spawns are going into the stray and you have to dodge them as well just to be sure. Also, the penultimate boss has some next level shit and you have to dodge her danmaku while also dodging her options which spawn the bullets. Sick.

- There are no repeated patterns or shit like that, bosses choose a random attack from their pool and fuck you in the ass with it. To hell with boring memo, this is the true RNG.

- If you wish for good and realistic quality, you probably should play this game. The enemies are so well made and the bullets look so neat you would not believe it. You can't simply see all of it at times, that's how awesome the graphics are. A true classic.

- The bullet hitboxes are as they are. No guessing around. No fancy shit. Just pure looking at stuff and dodging it. No aliases, the bullets are who they are: bullets.

- Design? Man, this game has got it all. Sick star orbs from the deep hell, six mystic lovecraftian balls. And the stage one has a fucking tank. A. Fucking. Tank.

- Spamming bullets, here it is. Forget about killing the player, here the screen gets so full with shit you wouldn't believe it. Truely random and cool danmaku.

I could probably name more, but I'll just have to go and play the game. I'm 100% serious, it's the best Touhou.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:05:51 No.11718354

>>11718334
Just find a good projectile to spam in 10.5. The AI are pretty stupid, so it's not tough to beat them in a projectile war in that game. As for spell cards, just remember that grazing is your best friend. Some spell cards can be made much easier by using your own spell cards as well. And unlike 7.5, you don't need to 1cc the game to get the good ending, so don't worry about using those continues.
As for MoF, the most general advice I can think of is to spam bombs. You can bomb much more often in that game than the others, and bombing in the right areas can give you a ton of points. As for Kanako, don't be afraid to spam bombs, and watch some videos on fighting her. Streaming her attacks is much easier once you've seen someone else do it. The only card that should still give you trouble is Mountain of Faith. There's not much you can do to prepare yourself for that one, so just make sure you have an extra life or two when you get that far.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:08:22 No.11718363 >>11718335 I love how huge Reimu's hitbox is in this game, and how is slightly shifts whenever you get hit. Not to mention how random enemies can drop bombs. Truly a classic.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:34:09 No.11718433

Just cleared Mokou for my first time with 8 cards captured, I'm pretty ecstatic. Which extra would you folks consider the next easiest after Ran/Yukari and Mokou? I haven't played 14 extensively so Raiko is off limits.

I've tried Flanders but I seem very starved for resources in that extra. How is Suwako as an extra?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:36:54 No.11718440 >>11717712 Spin around the screen above Hina. >>11717846 Reimu B is easily the best shot type for both survival and scoring. >>11718099 Sanae A's bomb in UFO is the prettiest in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:37:10 No.11718443 >>11718433 Suwako and Nue have somewhat tough stages, but are themselves easy fights. Raiko has an easy stage and is fairly easy boss fight, so she's a good option as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:41:39 No.11718458 >>11718443 Would homing Reimu trivialize 10's extra stage? I might use needle Reimu instead if it does.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:44:54 No.11718462 >>11718458 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 02:46:24 No.11718466 >>11718458 It only makes one card easier, as I recall. You'll be able to hit Suwako most of the time, anyway, so needle might make it easier. Unless you're talking about the stage portion, in which case yeah, it makes it a lot easier.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 05:15:16 No.11718679
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And once again, Kaguya laughed at my feeble effort while utterly destroying me.

I miss it when people actually posted screenshots of their progress in these threads. I really do.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 06:19:21 No.11718807 File: 44 KB, 456x423, 1387230431013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That hilarious difficulty spike between stage 2 and 3 in DDC Speaking of DDC, is there a translation out yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 06:27:06 No.11718823 >>11718807 Only the self updating one. I really hope somebody makes a real patch for 14 some time soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 06:58:36 No.11718883 >>11718330 Yeah, the problem is that I seem to run out of room to maneuver and can't seem to quite get the hang of creating gaps in the stream to loop back through. >>11718440 I'll give it a shot

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 07:11:07 No.11718907 File: 359 KB, 640x480, Dis gon be gud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Think I'll finally get that 1cc?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 07:15:53 No.11718917 File: 411 KB, 640x480, I hate this fight.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11718907 I managed to miss 2 deathbombs in a row

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 07:16:37 No.11718919 >>11718907 abysmal score

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 07:19:37 No.11718925 File: 107 KB, 686x441, 1386757715131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11718919

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 08:11:38 No.11718993 >>11718919 sorry, was supposed to reply to >>11718679

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 08:25:53 No.11719009

How are blue switches for shmups? I'm going to buy a mechanical keyboard from a friend soon, so I was wondering if it was worth the $15 he's asking for it.

Right now I'm using a shitty membrane keyboard, which really sucks, but I'm stuck between that or a PS2 controller. It'd be nice to actually have something I could use to play these games competently enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 08:32:23 No.11719020 >>11719009 Is this the new epic meme?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 08:48:43 No.11719041

actually I use a 360 pad sometimes and it's real good yes. I can still get 40% of the world record playing any given game, but I hardly practice so maybe it all just comes down to what you've practiced with??

I can still manage to go positive even using the 360 controller in pc fps though, so yeah, maybe it's just that I play with shitters, but it's preference I guess maybe yes. Forget about paying $200 for a shitbox stick when you can just get a standard keyboard for $15 and it'll be 100x better yo.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 09:08:30 No.11719061 File: 1.28 MB, 640x360, 1387146983442.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How would you rank the extra bosses?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 09:20:15 No.11719077 >>11719061 Marize > others

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 09:26:30 No.11719082 >>11719061 1. Koishi 2. Flandre 3. Mokou-tan 4. Mamizou 5. Nue 6. Raiko 7. Suwako 8. Ran

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 11:53:24 No.11719293 Fucking shit. Another failed 1cc because my keyboard decided it was going to hold to the left. I'm going to break this thing over my knee when my pad finally arrives.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 13:25:28 No.11719458 >>11718335 >>11718363 Thank you Anons. I feel like a new man filled with a passion to conquer the greatest classic masterpiece in all of the Touhou series.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 13:34:14 No.11719476

>>11719458
The important thing to realise about SoEW is that you won't achive full fire rate just by holding down the button, because that's for pussies. Sure, you'll do okay, but you'll never be able to do things like take out the stage 2 midboss before she launches a single attack, and you'll have a hell of a time on stage 4.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 15:36:18 No.11719704 >>11719476 You've got that all wrong, mate. The important thing to realize about SoEW is that the playable character is riding a flying turtle. And that's pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 16:24:40 No.11719829 Why is 9 so much easier than the other shooters?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 16:26:40 No.11719835 >>11719829 Because it was created with multiplayer in mind?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 16:34:40 No.11719858 >>11719829 Because you're playing with the AI in a highly competitive game, and probably at a difficulty lower than Lunatic no less.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 17:31:59 No.11719968 Do you guys play TH in fullscreen or windowed mode?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 17:35:13 No.11719979 >>11719968 I hate playing in fullscreen mode since it makes alt tabbing/my second monitor a bitch, but I feel it's easier to dodge bulelts that way.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 17:36:43 No.11719985 >>11719968 Always fullscreen. Makes seeing the paths through the bullet curtains easier.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:11:19 No.11720224 Hey guise, noob (I just installed and played for hour my first Touhou game) question - wat's the difference betweeh shmup and bullet hell?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:14:49 No.11720233 >>11720224 A shmup is the wide definition for these kinds of games, bullet hell is a niche within it that has a shitload of bullets

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:19:49 No.11720249 >>11720233 So are all Touhou games bullet hell?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:21:49 No.11720252 >>11720249 Pretty much yeah, the hitbox on your character is a tiny red dot rather than your whole character, which allows the games to have massive amounts of bullets on screen and still allow you to dodge

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:27:50 No.11720264 >>11720252 Ok, that makes sense, thanks. What game would you recomment after Imperishable Night (which I'm playing right now as I've read it's good for beginners)?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:28:19 No.11720267 >>11720224 "Shmups" is a disease.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:28:49 No.11720269

I wouldn't say I'm new to touhou, but I have yet to beat a game on normal besides MoF.
I've been playing DDC for a bit to try to get a feel for the game, but lasers flip a switch in my brain that turns me into a retard when I see them. Who is the best character in DDC?

Is playing on a 360 controller viable at all? I'm not as good with a controller, but my arthritis makes playing on the keyboard really difficult

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:32:19 No.11720273 >>11720264 Probably EoSD.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:40:04 No.11720292

>>11720269
>Is playing on a 360 controller viable at all? I'm not as good with a controller, but my arthritis makes playing on the keyboard really difficult
You can do it, yeah, but I'd recommend at least using a controller with a decent D-pad. PS2/3 are cheap and work well. Or you could get a stick.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 19:41:49 No.11720295 >>11720273 Thanks Anon

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 20:23:11 No.11720384

>>11720269

I've honestly never had any problem with a controller. Lots of play play with Arcade sticks and at its core, a controller is just scaled down arcade stick.

I use a 360 controller all the time, and the worst that happens is that occasionally you flick a bit too hard and overshoot your positioning.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 20:43:26 No.11720448 This might be somewhat relevant to your interests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-45DjRk_E

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 20:48:41 No.11720459 >>11720448 thanks for the link I just shared this on my facebook and there's two likes already

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 21:11:13 No.11720514

>>11720459
You seem upset. Was it too mainstream for you?

I thought he made some interesting points, and I agree that there is some state in which the dodging comes more natural. For me, it's when I start thinking about other stuff during a stage I've played a hundred times before, and just dodge with my subconsciousness. I usually break out of this state when I reach the boss, because I think I need to take this more serious, and then I end up playing even worse.
Has anyone made similar experiences?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 21:12:58 No.11720517 >>11720514 it's called flow and it is the primary appeal of all video games

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 21:27:43 No.11720564 File: 860 KB, 150x200, 1387351575787.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11718081 Seems tiresome. I can use Nvidia hotkeys to rotate my screen 180 degrees without rotating the monitor,

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 21:29:28 No.11720579 >>11720564 This gif alone makes me sick. Why do I suck at these games?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 21:54:43 No.11720634 >>11720514 No because I'm not naturally talented.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 22:43:33 No.11720728

>>11720514
I eventually get to a point after grinding so much that the entire game becomes a journey. More recently, I have discovered that once you've built the muscle memory required to chain in DOJBL, the game actually becomes much more relaxing. The frustration and sleepless nights, fits of rage and bouts of depression have finally paid off.

The same effect happens when I'm playing a rhythm game for a really long time. Hitting the notes becomes a natural thing, like breathing or walking. That is, until somebody slams on your door and breaks the immersion.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 22:46:47 No.11720733
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Can someone watch this and critique my skills and tell me what I need to improve on and how to do so? Yeah I had a few stupid collisions, and I still haven't figured out a good strat for Fujiyama Volcano, so it fucks me every time.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=31474

Also my first time clearing as solo Yukari

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 22:54:32 No.11720752 File: 528 KB, 640x480, th018.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This just happened. Someone kill me now, please.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 23:33:19 No.11720800 >>11720579 You and me both man. We are pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 23:41:06 No.11720810 >>11720752 HAHAHA FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 18, 2013 23:42:21 No.11720812 >>11720752 HAHAHHAHA L2P

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 00:57:42 No.11720929 >>11720752 頑張って下さい！

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 01:01:54 No.11720933 Aya is a big shit

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 02:06:29 No.11721036 >>11720752 That colon vee when I beat hourai doll the first time ever seeing it with two bombs.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 02:48:02 No.11721121 >>11721036 That colon slash when nothing to colon vee about.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 04:32:23 No.11721281

>>11720733
Post a screenshot (or no image at all) instead of fanart next time.

It depends on what do you want to do with the stage. In case you want to survive better, I'd suggest forming a solid route for Fujiyama Volcano and using the circling method for the first survival spell, as it's less strict that way. For Volcano, you can either copy my tactic (http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=31477)), copy someone else's (there's a good bunch of replays), or form your own strategy in spell practice. Also, it might be good to learn a bit more aggressive route for first four big fairies in the later stage portion (which killed you), as you can effectively cheese them on any youkai, all of the teams and two of the human shots.

If you want to score (on solo Yukari), I would suggest looking at the stage portion in the first place, starting from the item collection. While your Mokou performance is okay, you're dropping hundreds of millions of points during the stage simply by not gathering items above the PoC.

Simply collecting items is not that difficult, and you can either copy a route from some of these replays:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=&g=8&p=Yukari&t=--&d=5&ch=0&order=score&sort=DESC&pg=2 (the first Yukari solo scores are on the second page)
http://score.royalflare.net/th08/score.cgi?type=score_nf&level=5&chara=6&route=0
OR you can take your time learning the stage and create your own route for item collection. I strongly suggest the latter option, as I find it great fun to sit down and figure things out by myself.

Good luck, and keep us updated with your progress!

Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 09:31:10 No.11721878

>>11721036
:V when 1ccing arcade games on my first try and idiots still say is hard. ok yes whatever very hard indeed okay. it makes me wonder if these people have even played the shmups they so praise as difficult games, it's mind boggling, almost like how people struggle with 6's and 7's in iidx.

it's just like what how do you find this difficult? :V

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 10:06:56 No.11721973 >>11721878 Because it is hard. You can play CoD without further preparation and not die once, but give Touhou to a person who've never played bullet hell before.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 13:37:37 No.11722412 >>11720752 lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:22:59 No.11722725 >>11720564 Is this gif from actual game?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:33:29 No.11722739 File: 367 KB, 897x647, 1386907855410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your biggest weakness in these games? Mine is having to weave without focus, like against Ran's Last Word in IN

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:34:59 No.11722741 >>11722739 You fucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:39:29 No.11722747 File: 56 KB, 500x171, 1375132895594.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11722739 Fuck you, you fucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:51:29 No.11722771 >>11718679 Don't worry anon, soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 15:53:59 No.11722777 >>11722739 You better apologize for this image. Then you may ask again.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 16:26:02 No.11722843 File: 67 KB, 312x348, 1387281776255.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11722777 Make me

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 16:29:48 No.11722850 >>11718679 I posted progress before, but nobody cared, so I stopped. Besides, I think that most are happy that I'm not writing demotivating posts about my lack of skill anymore, it frees up more space for the people who can actually play.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 22:00:08 No.11723669 >>11723668 Congrats!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 22:00:38 No.11723668 File: 696 KB, 640x480, th020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aha, I did it!

Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 22:29:09 No.11723730
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I feel like quitting touhou

I hadn't played touhou since 3 months ago, and just now I tried to beat EoSD in hard again

I tried and I got to Scarlet Gensokyo and lost
after that I just kept trying and trying but I couldn't do it

I don't even think it's fun anymore
should I just give up? am I broken?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 22:40:40 No.11723750 File: 85 KB, 246x246, 1344902175891.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11723730

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 19, 2013 22:44:10 No.11723767 >>11723730 Probably, but you should continue playing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 02:14:19 No.11724182 >>11722850 Space is infinite here. Please blog as much as you desire

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 02:54:28 No.11724233 File: 3 KB, 125x125, 1381962291659.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11723668 You the man >>11723730 >I feel like quitting touhou Don't

Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 09:13:16 No.11724755

>>11723730
I just keep playing regardless of if I'm having fun or not, which eventually happens no matter the game I play. It all boils down to me having to grind because I'm pathetically slow, shit that most normal people would have gotten on their first try takes me months of practice to get down semi consistently.

It's depressing being a slowbrained shitter, but there's nothing you can do about shitty genetics.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 09:15:01 No.11724759 File: 32 KB, 474x335, 1387227147690.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11724755 Hard work anon. We can do it!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 12:54:43 No.11725028 I'm shit and I don't expect to stop being shit! should I play on easy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 13:33:04 No.11725105 File: 46 KB, 800x473, 008198.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11723767 >>11724233 Thank you kind anons, I guess I'll just keep on trying today too! >>11724755 there's nothing you can't accomplish if you practice more!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 13:38:19 No.11725115 >>11725028 I don't recommend playing EoSD (you don't get stage 6 on easy) and probably MoF (no good ending on easy). For all other games it's fine.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 14:01:36 No.11725167
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>>11724755
>>11723730
Don't worry Anon, I'm the same way.
The most important thing though is to not give up!
I won't, and neither should you.

Though our skills may be weak, our will is strong and our tenacity admirable.
No matter how many times you feel broken or useless, you must pick up the pieces and try again. For as long as you keep trying, for as long as you still have hope, you can never lose.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 14:36:24 No.11725257 File: 458 KB, 640x480, th480.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Revisiting the other shot-types, I suppose.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 16:18:16 No.11725489
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I knew it was a bad idea to carry on after deathbombing twice in stage 2.

>>11722850
I'd take anything over the current state of these threads. (shitposting/dramafest where nobody plays the games) I myself am not good at replying to people, but I certainly do read and appreciate posts which convoy the image of someone else playing STG's as well. And I'm rather sure other people do, as well.

Although, if you're the guy who has been struggling with the first few stages of DDP for a long while, I think you should drop down on the scoring matter and focus on clearing the game first.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 16:42:04 No.11725522 File: 327 KB, 636x480, i feel so warm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did it! I listened to you guys and didn't give up, and after some 50 tries, I finally beat it on hard again! too bad the score is pretty low

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 16:45:04 No.11725528 File: 112 KB, 1023x793, 1343745378921.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11725522 I'm proud of you, dude. Feels good, doesn't it? That's the feeling of victory. As long as you continue to fight, you will win.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 18:57:39 No.11725892

OP here, can anyone give me some tips for the first half of Hina's midboss fight? Specifically the part where the orbs start firing the lines of shots?

I can use streaming to get through the first half no problem, but those lines seem to have a lot more spread, and I just can't seem to figure out how to move to get them to fire in a way that leaves me enough space to turn around.

I end up always having to burn a bomb or a life there, but I feel like I shouldn't need to and that there's just some trick I can't seem to grasp.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 19:01:39 No.11725915 Should I play the PC-98 games first?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 19:04:09 No.11725927 >>11725915 If you want. They're not bad, although they definitely don't have the polish of the newer games.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 19:26:15 No.11725986 I have a question, how do you guys manage to stay still and focused playing, sometimes i have to scratch myself, or always get a mosquito on my ear. Also those days where i fap atleast 2 times a day for a whole week i cant focus at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 19:39:16 No.11726021 >>11725986 Same way as anything else in life, you practice. Most of the time, when I'm playing touhou, I'm dead to the world. It's just me, the music, and the bullets.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 19:50:16 No.11726039
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God damn it, why do the games always have auto-focus turned on by default.

Just had to reformat my system and I keep forgetting to go in and turn that shit off.

To say nothing of forgetting to reconfigure binds on my controller

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 20:12:46 No.11726086 Why is playing Suika in Soku so fun when you're drunk? I swear I'm 1000x better with her when I'm drinking.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 22:22:26 No.11726421 >>11725892 Just for you! http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=31502

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 22:50:34 No.11726485 >>11726039 Please do not misuse the spoiler function.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 20, 2013 22:50:34 No.11726486 >>11726421 Thanks Anon! Greatly appreciate it. I'm impressed with your skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 01:04:07 No.11726698 File: 383 KB, 640x480, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I guess I still need some practice. Eirin tore me a new one pretty handily.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 01:06:07 No.11726699 File: 534 KB, 640x480, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11726698 This is the best I've done yet, though, so I feel like I'm getting better. Playing in fullscreen helped more than I thought it would.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 01:09:52 No.11726706 >>11726698 Why are you facing Eirin, anyway? Trying to beat the game with a new pair?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 01:12:53 No.11726711 >>11726706 Oh, I'm not the guy who was posting earlier, if that's what you mean. But yeah, I've already beaten it with Youmu/Yuyuko (albeit with a ton of continues) so I was trying Reimu/Yukari to see if I did any better.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 06:11:10 No.11727168 >>11726698 >>11726699 Eirin's last spell is a lot easier if you destroy familiars, though it becomes boring if you destroy too much. Were you playing a youkai?

Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 11:02:28 No.11727737

>>11725489
Yes, I'm the DDP slowbrainer. I can clear the game pretty consistently if I just completely disregard chaining and bomb everything, but my main issue comes from losing all will to continue the run after dropping a chain or dying/bombing before 1-4. At least I'm noticing some small improvements here and there.

I had a lot of fun with the game until I realized just how bad I was at it. I remember how good it felt to chain up to the 1-2 midboss, but now I just get upset if I can't chain past the midboss, so I've mostly been making use of save states and practicing the second loop instead. Even though it kicks my ass even more, practicing bosses is a million times more fun than having to read through the full extent of the law shit each time I F3 it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 11:30:43 No.11727827 >>11727168 I was playing Boundary Team. I tried to destroy some of them, but it seemed like I wasn't putting out enough damage as Reimu to get through them very quickly, so I tried to just focus on whittling Eirin down as quickly as I could.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:06:44 No.11727929

Do you guys play with keyboard or a controller?

I've been using controller because it's more fun but I'm starting to wonder if I made a mistake by getting used to it, if performance is better with keyboard
And did anyone try playing with a fight stick?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:16:31 No.11727972 >>11727929 Keyboard is generally more accurate but I prefer a pad myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:38:47 No.11728039 >>11727929 Touhou is the only shmup I prefer to play with a keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:42:02 No.11728046 >>11717781 a no ice victory is a noice victory

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:42:17 No.11728043 >>11727929 I play with a controller, but I'm also beginning to reevaluate it. There are only so many times I can blow a perfect run because I accidentally tapped the stick too hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:44:17 No.11728052 File: 2.55 MB, 3520x2480, Sega-Saturn-JP-Mk1-Controller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11727929 A good controller.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:53:47 No.11728077 >>11728052 I use the Classic Controller and it works out pretty well. I may try to look into other controllers though, the keyboard resets my skill completely.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:00:17 No.11728090 >>11728077 I swapped over to using a PS2 controller recently, since the 360 Dpad sucks and the analog sticks were gimping me. Took a bit of readjusting, but not too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:13:17 No.11728115 >>11727929 keyboard is the only way, pad players need not apply.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:22:47 No.11728141 >>11727929 I usually play stick. But I'm a bit more constant with keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:26:02 No.11728152 Which one should I play I can't decide

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:31:02 No.11728160 >>11728152 西方秋霜玉

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 13:57:36 No.11728219 >>11728160 That's not a touhou!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 15:33:23 No.11728393 Is there any reason I should or should not use DirectInput? Any noticeable effects on movement?

Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 17:44:35 No.11728641

I just started playing the games a few days ago on recommendation from a friend.

Can you not rebind keyboard bindings? I want to swap it so that shift is fire and Z is focus, but none of the games seem to want to change the keybindings unless I'm changing them for a controller.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 21, 2013 20:21:29 No.11729064 Fucking Kanako...FUCK YOU KANAKO! JUST DIE ALREADY GOD DAMN IT!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 04:38:49 No.11729972 I'm pretty new to Touhou games, started EoSD yestarday - what's the goal of this game? Beating all levels without using continiue? Get best score? Also should I focus on collecting bonuses or shooting enemies? Please explain.

Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 04:42:04 No.11729974

>>11729972
First of all, your goal should be to beat all six stages on normal mode without continues. That unlocks the Extra Mode. You can then try beating that, or beating it on higher difficulties.
You should focus on survival until you can reliably beat it, so don't do anything too risky to get points. Points do give you lives though, so when it's safe, fly up to the top of the screen to autocollect the items.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 04:47:20 No.11729976 >>11729972 >goal of this game There is no goal. Make up your own.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 04:48:35 No.11729977 >>11728641 Try running the game as an administrator.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 05:22:07 No.11730002 >>11728641 Yeah, in-game button settings are controller-only. You can use AutoHotKey to remap buttons if you really need to swap those two keys. >>11729977 uh no

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 16:47:25 No.11731403 MoF LNMNB キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━!!!!! http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=31530

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 22, 2013 17:26:44 No.11731496 >>11731403 God fucking shit, I'll never be this good. Congratulations man, I envy you. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 00:15:56 No.11732300 >>11731496 You'll never be this good because you're genetically inferior. It's all about talent.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 11:37:22 No.11733422 >>11731496 >>11732300 It's all about practice. Less than 2 years ago I can't even 1cc Normal.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:01:21 No.11733596 >>11733422 >It's all about practice. What the talented say to boost their ego.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:08:36 No.11733625 I 1cc'd, Normal: Imperishable Night, Mountain of Faith (using Marisa glitch), the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, Undefined Fantastic Object, Ten Desires. I finished the Extra Stage on: IN, MoF (ridiculously easy, Suwa-chan is cute but predictable...)

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:17:36 No.11733649

>>11733422
I wonder, what control method do you use? It seems like all of the top tier players use keyboard, regardless of what genre of game I'm playing. I always thought the best players used arcade sticks, but now more often than not, I'm being surprised by the number of people that obliterate me with their $5 dell keyboards. It always feels like I should just trash my pad whenever I go 0-20 against a keyboard player, seriously.

>>11733596
Talent exists, but you need to practice to reach your full potential. Sure, some talented guy might be able to 1cc Lunatic on his first try, but you sure as hell aren't getting an NMNB or a WR without a month or two of practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:22:12 No.11733662 >>11731403 >>11733649 What is this terminology? I've been playing for a year and I have never heard of LNMNB, NMNB, or WR.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:29:58 No.11733681 >>11733662 (L)NMNB - (Lunatic) No Miss No Bomb WR - World Record

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:32:27 No.11733686 >>11733681 Thank you kind sir. I should have figured it, actually. :)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 13:43:58 No.11733708 >>11733649 I can assure you no one rules aircraft sims with a keyboard haha

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 14:03:14 No.11733744 >>11733649 mechanical keyboard with red switches

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 14:13:14 No.11733762 I went into Kanako's last spell with 3 lives. I still didn't manage to 1cc it Fuck that spell, fuck it hard.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 16:24:23 No.11733948
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First time playing 2hu, I love it, and I need some gitting gud to do. Anyway I can fix the resolution?
But seriously what the fuck happened to Chen that made her into a shitposters favorite image (HONK HONK!)?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 16:33:39 No.11733965 >>11733948 It's bkub's Chen that got popular. Read his comics, they are quite memorable and not deserving of the bad image they got around here.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 16:40:24 No.11733975
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>>11733965
Got it, I don't know shit about 2hu other than the fact that it has a giant creative fanbase and a bunch of killer Loli maidens. Oh, and the games are made by one guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 16:45:54 No.11733982 >>11733686 If you're really thankful then please don't say sir. You wouldn't say it in normal conversation, so don't say it anywhere else.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 16:46:09 No.11733985 File: 529 KB, 640x480, Oh boy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SEND HELP.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 17:30:27 No.11734069

>>11733744
Fuck. It's always the guys with mechanical red switches that demolish my ass in fighters and shmups alike, while I'm told that it's preference by some people, playing with them in PoFV, IaMP, and TSS makes me believe otherwise. Their movements and execution are pretty much perfect, even compared to higher level players that use stick/pad/membrane kb.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 17:47:57 No.11734103

>>11733649
>but you sure as hell aren't getting an NMNB or a WR without a month or two of practice.
Of course, you'll still need to practice. But the difference between a few months of practice and a few years of practice is quite big. Getting a NMNB or a high score (not necessarily a record) within a "month or two of practice" is a very strong sign of genetic superiority.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 19:27:19 No.11734323 File: 200 KB, 1280x960, th14_000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate this game.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 23:07:46 No.11735135

I went through all the games in order (I'll start 9 today), beating them with continues on normal, just to get used to things. I beat everything so far except 4. Yumemi is the best, all you Windows-only people are crazy.
1cc'ing doesn't seem that hard, at first I could just barely touch normal with continues but now I'm doing it first or second try with a continue left or more. I honestly used to thing that I should go into Touhou not thinking about 1cc because I'm hilariously bad at twitch games.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 23, 2013 23:25:33 No.11735190 >>11734069 I'm not very good, but I noticed a clear improvement after getting one. I think the lower time to press keys gives a better map between what I want to do and what happens.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 00:39:06 No.11735443 >>11734323 I hate this game too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 01:23:11 No.11735540 >>11734069 It comes at the expense of more difficult typing due to the lightness of the switches.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 01:59:58 No.11735626 >>11734069 It can't just be that good keyboard players tend to invest in better keyboards, and reds being light and linear happen to be good for fast-paced twitchy gaming. Nope.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 02:54:13 No.11735755 At what scores do you get an additional life in MoF?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 03:04:17 No.11735770 >>11735755 20M, 40M, 80M and 150M.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 05:24:27 No.11736040 Managed to Lunatic 1cc IN today... Now I just need to do it with default lives.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 09:48:12 No.11736495

>>11735190
Micro movements are infinitely easier on red switches, you could probably no focus anything without effort if you really wanted to.

>>11735540
Get two or three different mechanical keyboards, use one of them depending on if you're going to be playing stg/ftg or typing. Reds can still be used for typing though, they're just not ideal, it's like using a pad for stgs, very silly.

>>11735626
Mechanical reds are far superior to sticks, and I think when everybody from the arcade scene switches from using silly arcade machines to keyboards and MAME, the overall skill of the community will grow massively!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 11:43:07 No.11736770 How many of you are as bad at the game as me? Want to be friends?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 13:55:14 No.11737067 >>11736495 > it's like using a pad for stgs, very silly. Yeah, the top-tier Japanese players who use pads are complete trash who know nothing compared to the Western players with mechanical keyboards.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 24, 2013 19:01:00 No.11738093

>>11736770
I'll be your friend. The closest I've ever gotten to 1cc'ing any Touhou is getting to Yuyuko's Last Spell in PCB without continuing, and getting to Kaguya's second non-spell without continuing, both on Normal. I'm getting better at them, but I just tried a run of UFO and couldn't beat Murasa, again on Normal.

I meant to take a screenshot of my scores, but I forgot to.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 04:44:54 No.11739788 [DELETED]

>>11738093
I have been within 1/8 of both Miko's and Kanako's last spell cards, on normal, in the past 4 hours. I got to Oku as well but fell short on her third to last spellcard. I am so fucking mad right now I am just going to bed and try again another day when my anger subsides.

>>11737070
I'll be your friend stranger. I have only 1'ccd PCB, IN, and EoSD. I have fallen short of beating Ran and Mokou on their last spells too. Now that I think of it maybe I get super nervous.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 04:47:24 No.11739796

>>11738093
I have been within 1/8 of both Miko's and Kanako's last spell cards, on normal, in the past 4 hours. I got to Oku as well but fell short on her third to last spellcard. I am so fucking mad right now I am just going to bed and try again another day when my anger subsides.

>>11736770
I'll be your friend stranger. I have only 1'ccd PCB, IN, and EoSD. I have fallen short of beating Ran and Mokou on their last spells too. Now that I think of it maybe I get super nervous during last spells

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 04:49:24 No.11739801 Hey one guy, did you ever manage to get 100M in DDP?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 04:49:24 No.11739802 >>11737067 They use joysticks, not pads. Huge difference.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 09:51:09 No.11740332

>>11739801
Sadly, no. I'm currently at around 50~60M or so, which wasn't one of my original goals, but I ended up getting it in a run where I just said fuck it and kept going after dropping the chain on 1-3. In which run I managed to chain most of 1-4, and a little bit of 1-5, but sadly bombed a little later in the stage. 1-6 was an absolute train wreck. Two deaths, about a million bombs, yeah, shit.

The run happened about a month ago, and I haven't really done any runs since. Instead, I've been using my practice time to focus more on the weaker parts of my survival game, 1-5, 1-6, which are now the usual bastards that cause me to restart. The game actually became a lot more enjoyable after I stopped raging and restarting over dropping a chain, it's also much more productive to practice the rest of the run instead of just F3ing instead.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 19:17:53 No.11741822
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May I talk about the fangames here please? I just got into this game and beat the first "real" boss I guess. Is there anything else I should be doing?

Pic related, that was very mean of the game to do that to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 19:36:09 No.11741842 File: 361 KB, 640x480, Unknown 2013-12-25 19-12-20-17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here is my Satori, also is using Alice "cheap"? Because I just started using her and I'm basically untouchable.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 20:17:41 No.11741924 >>11741842 >is using Alice "cheap"? Not using Alice is masochism. Anyway later on you will have hard time even with her in the party. >Here is my Satori Mage Satori? Pfff, boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 20:27:12 No.11741950 File: 366 KB, 640x480, Unknown 2013-12-25 20-25-12-28.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11741924 Good thing I started using her then, also would you like this Satori instead?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 20:53:00 No.11742003
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>>11741950
You forgot the main skill. I just wanted to post this picture

Satori's strongest power is actually status affecting skills (mindblast, enervation etc), but physical Satori is super cool too. I would probably only add death zapper instead of something (if you've learned it).
And don't forget to equip IND necklaces (if you have any and you're not using them on Sanae/Byakuren) to have higher chance of paralysis/poison/daze on hit.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:02:00 No.11742023
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>>11742003

So that what's what Induction means.... I don't have the manual so I didn't know. What does POT do then?

Also thanks and my Satori did learn constrict but that damage is seems a bit high. Any good formation besides Hinotori skydance and freefight?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:13:30 No.11742058

>>11742023
>POT
I actually don't remember what it does. ..Wait I think it may increase EVA? In any case it's not a vital part of the game; more along the lines of "luck" in others.

As for formations, some fights benefit from some of the more situational ones. Formations that boost death RES, EVA, IND, etc. My memory is shitting on me right now, but the less extreme version of skydance and "attack and defense keystone" (I think) are also good.

>>11742003
Isn't physical Satori largely just a novelty at best?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:18:30 No.11742073

>>11742023
There is lots of information on wiki:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros
Each point of POT adds +0.5% to your crit rate and increase RES stat by 0.25.
And each point in RES increases your resistance to status effects by 0.5-1% depending on how much IND enemy has.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:18:30 No.11742074 >>11742058 I think I'll just use Red Eyes formation now, thanks.

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>>11742003
Yes, people are actually posting the image! Makes me quite happy.

>>11742058
Physical Satori is a novelty, but it works, however she does not get any kind of defenses to go with it. If you've neglected a fighter, or badly need another one, Satori can do that role, provided you've trained her in the abilities.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:24:02 No.11742089

>>11740332
Ah, I was wondering since I was trying to do it around the same time. Since then I've basically been doing that too, plus trying to learn the 1-5 connection without resorting to state loading the exact part. Watching how it's done over and over doesn't seem to help but I have done it a couple times.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:30:31 No.11742101 >>11742073 How hard is it to get that Yukkuri medal? Oh and does the "gamer fan" have to be equipped by a party member or can the commander just have it?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:42:46 No.11742137 >>11742101 >How hard is it to get that Yukkuri medal? Only two types of yukkuri drop them. Drop chance is only 5%. >does the "gamer fan" have to be equipped by a party member or can the commander just have it? Commander works too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:47:46 No.11742161 /jp/ has a long line of GoS and LoT. However, those games often get their own threads, since they're not STG and have a different amount of activity compared to the STG threads.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:49:01 No.11742165 File: 443 KB, 1279x696, 66666666.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11742161 Kinda wish we had more super 2hu war threads.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 25, 2013 21:49:01 No.11742166 Let's play some danmaku, /jp/. Challenge for this thread: IN Stage 6B Reimu only Normal/Lunatic Most points win. You have time until the thread ends.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 06:38:46 No.11743415 Today I got my first clear of EOSD with one credit. my last thing was PCB which you guys got me into. Now I'm going to work on dodonpach i think, or maybe increase my PCB score.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 07:15:31 No.11743476 >>11741822 Which fangame is this, anyway ?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:15:19 No.11744038 >>11743476 The Genius of Sappheiros

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 16:44:04 No.11744887 How do I improve my skills I can't even beat DDC on Easy I am a beginner so please do not bully me

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 16:48:49 No.11744901 >>11744887 fundamentals

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 16:49:19 No.11744902 >>11744901 where do i get those at do they cost a lot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 16:54:19 No.11744915 >>11744902 1. go to youtube 2. type "let's play touhou" in search field 3. find a video with good commentary and explanations

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 17:00:34 No.11744936 File: 4 KB, 132x166, Cirno9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11744915 Leave, you only get stronger learning on your own then watching some loser play a game for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 19:55:45 No.11745436 >>11739796 HAHAHAHA Tojiuko managed to kill me three times but I beat TD my first time after dropping the game for a day.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 21:26:02 No.11745655 When will Strawberry Bose release their next game?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 22:35:24 No.11745808 File: 1023 KB, 640x960, PrismriverFightBonedMeHard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought I could dodge the laser, /jp/. I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 22:59:55 No.11745858 >>11745808 This is my constant problem. I always think I'm good and can totally dodge that. I can't. I never could.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 23:12:25 No.11745877

>>11742089
Yeah, I've pretty much given up on chaining 1-5 until I can NMNB it consistently. The best I've done is NM1B of 1-5, but I'm still experimenting with different strategies. Personally, I just load states from the beginning, as guilty as I felt about it at first, being able to practice optimizing the 1-2 chain without going through 1-1 is a lot less painful.

The streaming hell section is something I overlooked since I hardly ever saw it before. And I barely watch replays unless I really like the game, which I do for DDP, but I've only really watched an obsolete replay for it, which was still pretty decent enough for me anyway.

Best of luck to you. I believe we'll be able to get there some day, if we practice hard enough. If anything else, practicing DDP has made me more patient when it comes to other STGs.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 23:13:10 No.11745881

>>11745858
>>11745808
Don't know if you know, but the lazer actually move further across the screen every time it fires, so the first time it fires you can almost stay under yuyuko, but by the 6th or so you'll be up against the screen's edge.

Not knowing that really screwed me over, but once you know it the card is easy modo

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 26, 2013 23:14:55 No.11745882 >>11745858 I'm getting better at not dying with a stock full of bombs that don't get used, but every once in a while the same thing happens to me. >>11745881 I hadn't noticed that, I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks for the tip, chief.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 27, 2013 13:46:45 No.11747497

Hm, so after nearly two months of not touching my pad, I decided to do a few quick practice runs of 1-4 and 1-5. NMNB and near full chain on 1-4, and four NM1B's of 1-5 in a row.

And yet, something still feels wrong about using pad. It's strange finding that I'm actually better on pad, when months ago I was trash with it, but I'm not complaining. I think that getting it drilled into my head that keyboard is better is possibly what's making playing on pad so difficult for me, it just doesn't feel right using anything but keyboard or stick now. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 27, 2013 13:53:45 No.11747520 >>11747497 It's only the vocal idiots screaming that a keyboard is superior. You should ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 27, 2013 15:15:13 No.11747668 >>11733649 All of the best STG players DO use arcade sticks. This is a fact, don't bother arguing against it.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 27, 2013 20:41:09 No.11748854
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It would seem that whenever I capture spells at Kaguya, I proceed to make mistakes on the nonspells. (second and third nonspell this time.)

I can handle Kaguya's first spell on Lunatic somewhat alright (about 80% capture rate), but the Normal version I have no idea as the orbs spawn so low on the screen they can overwhelm me easily unless I go for the misdirecting strategy. It could be just being unused to the pattern, but the attack should still prove itself rather difficult for the given mode.

While the performance is still rather unimpressive and low, I'll possibly try some other character for now, or do a FinalA run.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 00:07:22 No.11749438 File: 452 KB, 640x480, th525.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And then, the essential FinalA run. ´・）｀・（ω

Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 09:46:22 No.11750405

>>11747520
You know what? After using keyboard for three hours again yesterday, I can safely say I'm better on pad. The amount of stupid deaths I had after switching back to keyboard was unacceptable, so fuck it. I might never be as good as keyboard players, but I just can't get my movement down on keyboard.

>>11747668
Stick is so much fun to play on, but I'm god awful when I play on them. Even worse than I am when I play on keyboard. I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 11:01:03 No.11750541 Why are you all worrying about what the best input device is? Just stick to what you're used to playing with.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 11:27:01 No.11750576 >>11748854 >>11749438 The only remaining good player in these threads. Good job and keep it up, anon!

Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 11:35:01 No.11750599

>>11750541
Because I'm an idiot who can't decide for himself, even though I know it all comes down to personal preference and practicing with your input device. Maybe I'll just practice with pad, stick, and keyboard and get used to them all.

>>11750576
I hope I'll be a good player one day, but I'm pretty doubtful that I'll ever rise past slightly-above shit and only plays half of the game for score tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 13:01:24 No.11750830 >>11750576 There's a bunch of old players who read the thread but never post, and the MoF guy.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 13:23:22 No.11750901

>>11750830
You forgot the EoSD guy that recently did an LNMNB, and is also now rank #3 in the world for the game in terms of Lunatic scores.

There's a few others that come here, but I'm pretty sure the only time that good players come to this thread is when it gets linked wherever and they're looking for a laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 28, 2013 14:22:54 No.11751015 >>11750901 I didn't include the EoSD guy since I think he doesn't read the thread unless it's linked somewhere.

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