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11708436 No.11708436 [Reply] [Original]

Is it just me, or was the Denpa thread deleted?

>> No.11708439

Deleted to make room for the new JAV general

>> No.11708449

when's new mosaic.wav?

>> No.11708558

Probably fell off?
Anyway who cares it's more like mmbk/nanahira thread.
MOSAIC.WAV new album will be easily found in Google.

>> No.11708563

>>11708449
It came out 3 days ago

>> No.11708610

>>11708558
Well, I haven't been able to find a downloadable copy on Google.

>> No.11708654

you mean the denpa song thread

>> No.11708657

>>11708610
I mean when it's uploaded.

>>11708654
This, although there was the occassional discussion about the meaning of denpa.

>> No.11708889
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>>11708654
u trudenpa?

>> No.11709817

Youtube and mediafire and other links from the archive since I last visited the previous thread:
https://www.mediafire.com/?dnqddbmxhzvl8de
https://www.mediafire.com/?ucqm7ui2rhkaf92
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIF2HCDm1aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnZPDDWG3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX1IjgSt5Jw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENxARYJlwDE
https://www.mediafire.com/?vst582oiyawkhov
http://www.orc2000.com/cd/petit8.html
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22452568
http://youtu.be/GQg6j9vbjwU
http://youtu.be/GQg6j9vbjwU

>> No.11710250

>>11708436
It wasn't deleted, people were just posting with sage even though the thread was on page 10

>> No.11710416

>>11710250
I didn't use sage when it was on page 10 and it didn't bump. Don't know if it stops bumping after a certain point or if they're trying to get rid of us.

>> No.11710437

>>11710416
Why would they want to get rid of it dude
A janitor would just delete it, which didn't happen.

>> No.11710591

>>11710416
Yeah, it definitely didn't bump at all. The other threads on page 10 were bumped around the time when the previous thread was created, so I guess it was on auto-sage right from the get-go. The normal bump limit is 300 posts.

I wonder if a mod accidentally did that (they seem to stop the thread from bumping when they publicly ban someone), or maybe the OP triggered something.

>> No.11710841

>>11710416
The bump limit definitely wasn't reached.
Sometimes the fucktards in charge of this site set a thread to autosage to get rid of it without causing drama like a deletion would.

>> No.11710876

>>11710841
Thats definitely not what happened, because that wont stop another Denpa thread from popping up. Can we stop arguing over shitty 4chan bugs/problems and talk about ear molesting cuteness?

>> No.11710943

nah, it was deleted before its lifetime expiration has been reached. it keeps getting deleted for some reason and this will maybe be another one

>> No.11710965

>>11710943
According to both archives, no, it was not manually deleted.

>> No.11710984
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>>11710965
Then we need to be more active. Anyone got christmas-themed denpa songs or something appropriate for winter?

>> No.11710998

>>11710984
She looks cold

>> No.11711007

>>11710984
More importantly, there appears to be a dead girl in your backyard.

>> No.11711089

>>11710998
>>11711007
Yeah, I was shocked seeing a qt joshikosei out in the cold. I tried to approach her and she was surprisingly well and alive. It appears he was a trap and a /jp/er. He said was looking for winter-time radio waves. What a crazy nutjob. I don't know what is it with him, he must have lost his mind from the coldness.

>> No.11711103

>>11710984
Do you even need to ask?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUZq_iAuvg

>> No.11711102

>>11711089
...

>> No.11711109
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>>11711103
that's a given

>> No.11711445

>>11710984
that chiimu dmp christmas song

>> No.11711459

>>11711445
>>11710984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKUVV0WaJ-0

I really like this song.

>> No.11711470

>>11711089
what

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>>11710984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhAQWanEOto

>> No.11711767

>>11710984
A couple threads ago, the second track on that twinkle single is Christmas themed.

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11711967

Reposting

でんぱ組.inc [Denpagumi.inc] - WORLD WIDE DEMPA (320K)
https://www.mediafire.com/?vst582oiyawkhov

>> No.11711994

The nostalgia is hitting me again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoUvuoeWlCU

>>11710416
So it was permasaged? Mhm, now that you mention it, I also bumped it and a few hours later the thread was 404'd, indeed it was too fast, usually threads last for a couple of days even if there aren't any posts. If I remember correctly I think this happened once before, probably there's a janitor who doesn't like these threads, or got tired of them. Which I understand, I often don't feel like uploading albums or posting news since I don't see people interested in other artists as before.

>>11710984
I'm waiting for new year, can't wait for listen to happy nyuu nyaa on repeat on MDMA.

>>11711089
Radio waves are decreasing lately sadly, it's a given. I know that feel.

>> No.11713314

Does anyone have dl link for the new Mosaic.wav album? It seems like nobody uploaded it yet.

>> No.11713331

>>11713314
Someone will post it here if it gets uploaded I think.

>> No.11713458

http://youtu.be/GQg6j9vbjwU

>> No.11713502

Reading takeshi's article (http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-410.html)) about some songs that cause controversy about them not being denpa songs, this part caught my attention:

>This might be my own impression but,
>if we roughly try to separate denpa song fans,

>1. Moe moe songs with lots of [interjection] cheers
>2. Chaotic songs, lyrically and musically

>I feel like there are two categories of fans who like these two things respectively.
>This song satisfies the first one, but I feel like it doesn't satisfy the second one.

This sounds like a decent way to judge if a song is a denpa song, actually. Does it satisfy both kind of fans?
Still, older fans seem to thrive towards the second group only, so it might be still confusing, but it's a start.

He has some other interesting articles, reposting the translated ones:
http://pastebin.com/kqSaCHUs
http://pastebin.com/23ARC5Bb

Also:
http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-401.html
http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-525.html

And mossya too:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/take-sub/20100809/1281381303
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/take-sub/20101015/1287154574
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/take-sub/20101024/1287938591

The third one is especially interesting, he talks about lyrics and the importance of context in denpa songs, which someone mentioned in a previous thread.

>>11710591
The OP was mostly mega and mediafire links, maybe it triggered some kind of anti-spam.

>> No.11713508

>>11713458
This is disgusting. I hate Nanahira now. Also her latest IIDX song was bland as fuck.

>> No.11713551

>>11713458
I don't like the song, other than the Nanahira parts which were pretty darn good. It really doesn't even sound like the same song when it switches.

>> No.11713591

>>11713502
intresting read thank you for sharing this

>> No.11713595

>>11713508
I didn't even realize ななひら had a song in SPADA since I've been playing avoiding it due to not having access to play it in any reasonable timeframe. Just looked it up and you're right, it's incredibly bland. I generally like anything with her, but that was a huge letdown. At least ARM's been putting out solid denpa for IIDX

>> No.11713913

>>11713458
is it denpa?

>> No.11713929

>>11711103
This is still my favorite denpa song. It's crazy as fuck, there's nothing else quite like it.

>> No.11714523

we need denpa group on steam

>> No.11714622

>>11713913
no, it's shit

>> No.11714788

>>11714523
yeah i want all my steambros to know i like denpa!

it will look soo good next to my /jp/group emblem

>> No.11714806

>>11714788
If somebody makes Denpa steam group give me link i join

>> No.11714885

>>11714788
Please stop.

>> No.11714894

>>11714523
There's a last.fm group, join that if you want, but steam has nothing to do with music.

>> No.11715018

>>11713458
I like it, it's pretty out there and delightfully self aware
Also haven't seen this posted yet
http://uppercut.doubleeleven.net/cd5.html

>> No.11715370

>>11713314

just got it by mail today fucking awesome

>> No.11715446
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>>11714523
'denpa' is the name of an IRC channel mostly composed of people who were in the VN translation community a bunch of years ago (pre-TLWiki).

>> No.11715469

>>11715446
Which is fine.
We should be calling this thread denpa song. Denpa is a much wider thing.
I love SayoOshi and SubaHibi by the way.

>> No.11715470

Is it true that Hyadain wrote this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cPTUcnFX4k

>> No.11715491 [DELETED] 

This music is fucking shit what the fuck

>> No.11715494

>>11715491
Thank you for your opinion.

>> No.11715495 [DELETED] 

>>11715494
Fuck you, you listen to shit

>> No.11715497 [DELETED] 

>>11715491
>>11715495
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>> No.11715503 [DELETED] 

so my post was deleted but not >>11715491

fuck you janny im tired of your shit, ban me you pimple faced cunt

>> No.11715512 [DELETED] 

This Janitor needs a big fucking dick shoved up his ass and his face to be ripped apart while someone shits down his throat, fucking cocksucker.

>> No.11715518

So what is 'AKIBA-POP'?

>> No.11715521 [DELETED] 

>>11715518
Trash

>> No.11715566

>>11715470
Yes. He's made a lot of でんぱ組.inc songs too.

>> No.11715578

>>11715491
Most popular "denpa" doujin circles are shit, I agree, but I try to keep it to myself.

>> No.11715584

>>11715518
It's the name MOSAIC.WAV self-identify their songs with, to refer to songs with references to akiba or related stuff. Akiba-kei is another more commonly used term. They didn't identify their songs as "denpa songs" at first but once other people started pointing it out then kinda went with the flow and started participating in the scene actively.

>> No.11715628

>>11713458
>This video is now private.

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Looks like this got delayed to January. It was the only figure I actually ordered for December and yet my order will still be $400 without it.

>> No.11715684

>>11715628
Hahaha oh wow

>> No.11715740

If I had to listen to one denpa album, which one would it be? It looks interesting but this genre is huge.

>> No.11716013

>>11710984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaekzC3SHFQ

Nothing shall top this xmaspa

>> No.11716019

>>11715740
ARM's best of album from a few years ago gets recommended a lot. In fact there's a song from it in >>11716013

>> No.11716063

>>11715740
That's a hard question, I don't like recommending albums because denpa songs are often exceptions found in "regular" albums, or songs not included in albums in the first place; that's why it's fun to search for them. 100% denpa albums are a rarity and only a fairly recent trend.

Do you prefer fast paced electronic music? Or experimental stuff? Maybe new wave? Punk-ish stuff? Moe-kei? Also keep in mind that lyrics are a fundamental aspect of denpa songs; I'd recommend MOSAIC.WAV since english translated lyrics are easy to find.

So I second the suggestion by >>11716019 , and probably MOSAIC.WAV's AKIBA-POP√RECOLLECTION.

Checking out the songs linked in denpa.omaera.org or twitter.com/dempa_bot would help too.

But I think the most important thing is to know that the genre is too varied: if you don't like something, just try something else. I think everyone here prefer some kind of songs over others.

>>11708889
>>11713929
I know right. I guess you already know these - some quite yandere shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTdxf0rRAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiQPJrHVW_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQEwORUbgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kpCAbFruIk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBlVJqxzc6g

>> No.11716183

>>11715470
Yes, he's written a lot of Natsuko Ako's songs (eg. Perfect-Area Complete, Renai Koujo Committee, Eureka Baby).

>> No.11716266

>>11716063
>MOSAIC.WAV since english translated lyrics are easy to find.
Are they? I tried to find lyrics to tracks from 'We Love Akiba-Pop' the other day, but couldn't really find anything except for one or two tracks. Where should I be looking?

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>>11715370

yep!

>> No.11716676

requests, based from the previous thread:
http://www.liponhip.com/loh/cart/archives/LOH-004.html

http://www.akibaoo.com/02/commodity_param/t/0/ctc/80150000/shc/0/cmc/2500020295144/backURL/+02+main

http://www.akibaoo.com/02/commodity_param/t/0/ctc/+/shc/0/cmc/2500020245941/backURL/+02+main

>> No.11716952

Chiimu dmp's last album is so fucking good.

>> No.11717175

>>11716676
>>>/google/

>> No.11717205

>>11716266
The guy from Amaterasu translated the full Superluminal album some time ago.

http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=541

I especially like 洗脳・搾取・虎の巻, it's about brainwashing and comformity, it even gets kind of political.

>> No.11717284

>>11716019
>>11716063
Thank-you. I'll check out what you have recommended and I'll start hunting for tunes when I get home.

>> No.11717316

Anyone have any non-moe/J-popish denpa song recommendations? Somethings a little darker perhaps?

>> No.11717454

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO3T15ynLe0

>>11717316
This is darker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiQPJrHVW_E
This isn't really dark at all, but more J-popish/J-rockish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o89uY3-1FuY

>> No.11717604

>>11716495
Damn it, I still can't find a download online.

>> No.11717681

>>11710250
This is another problem stupid moot caused by his stupid decision to make sage stupid invisible.

[This post has made use of the sage feature. Furthermore, Global Rules 7 and 8 were violated.]

>> No.11717745

>>11717316
See >>11716063

>> No.11720174
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It seems that I am no longer able to upload to mediafire, so I guess I'm using mega now. Following albums are self-ripped/v0.

ぷらいむまりぃ - おっさんに火をつけろ
https://mega.co.nz/#!3YYG0JIT!ZoOIsXI_pHyejp3vck3xBizil-EqPqoOvPtdJjD6-qE

ぷらいむまりぃ - きらめきすたー
https://mega.co.nz/#!SIphQT6Z!NoBe7neZg3SjMzzJiicoWzLpe6hkTBVgjORtSfX-YlI

>> No.11720180
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おでんぱ☆スタジオ - おでんぱ☆夏祭り でらっくちゅ
https://mega.co.nz/#!TEA1WCbA!Q-z3IVBo0HnAGWfZNst0Q1a22aRJkK2nsLccjgUEO3A

おでんぱ☆スタジオ - びっ栗☆秋味ふぇあ
https://mega.co.nz/#!nNBl1SgZ!Nq7pV3fdEfvBe55Jg_UNuDNZcVElofCkjIlk6KKPMpI

>> No.11720182
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PlasticGarden* - Parallel Honey
https://mega.co.nz/#!HZw0XQgD!SOtXolb7POLv0c1gNJitt1RMvdpXkfKUiv4V-TyS_Lg

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あゆ - あゆそん2 Primo Piatto
https://mega.co.nz/#!KJhAjYAB!FgkgV2FkvXfF0kfvdVOui27L11V7lZEWotHC1G_pb2Y

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ばーどちゅーん - ピコピコ電波予報
https://mega.co.nz/#!TMARzASB!PZfmayqjDQuo260GKXowDAR2lQYePkTB7gtHf1Eg4jU

>> No.11720227

>>11720174
>>11720180
>>11720182
>>11720189
>>11720196
Thanks for uploading!

>> No.11720284

>>11720182
Thank you I was waiting for this.

>>11720189
This isn't あゆ from IOSYS right?

>> No.11720507

I started listening to MOSAIC.WAV recently starting with We Love Akiba-Pop. I listened to Space Akiba-Pop and am now listening to Superluminal Akiba-Pop, but I'm not liking these two nearly as much as We Love Akiba-Pop. Is this just because WLAP was new to me and the novelty has worn off for me, or is WLAP different from other MOSAIC.WAV music?

>> No.11720518

>>11717205
Are all of MOSAIC.WAV's lyrics this lewd?

>> No.11720560

Can you name a recent denpa song better than CKP? No you can't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFG_UxS0xyo

>> No.11720627

>>11720507
They're definitely different. Honestly I like older albums better too, but as you say it could be nostalgia. Bot on the other hand, I think the latest albums feel more "mature", which is a good thing. They're going for a more experimental sound and deeper lyrics and I like that. They also seem to have a more "futuristic" feel to their music.

I especially liked their IIDX song; the time signature changes at the end are great and the lyrics are very on-your-face denpa-ish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GFEfr4Nk00

君の脳みそへ届けよ 脳直!ミュージックビーム!

>> No.11720712

>>11720284
It actually is あゆ from IOSYS.

>> No.11721119

>>11720180
>おでんぱ☆スタジオ - びっ栗☆秋味ふぇあ
This is more similar to their older releases. I definitely recommend it if anyone has been skipping out on their recent releases because they haven't been as good. Also the crossfade to their C85 release is out.

http://youtu.be/v1Z88lqWxDc

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http://movementonthefloor.net/motf0002/

ななひら and あゆ in a new CD for C85. Being released through t+pazolite's circle. Not really a denpa song album but I'm posting it anyway.

>> No.11721900

>>11721788
>エナジー*ドリン娘◎ふぇいんちゃん!
かめりあ is a god. All his nanahira tracks this year have been fantastic, and I can't wait to listen to this one too.

>> No.11722255

What is trudenpa?
Please teach me in the ways of trudenpa!

>> No.11723632
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Sample for 西沢はぐみ 2nd major album is out.

http://youtu.be/NnF52pOKgN8

>> No.11723657

>>11723632
That's nice, she has matured huh.
She's going for the pop side though, just like Tammy went for the rock one.
I'll be getting this for track 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6V-4UAN2YQ

>> No.11725030

>>11710984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwgKeq7uCIk

Christmas song.

>> No.11725159

>>11725030
The chorus melody is beautiful.

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Which one?

>> No.11728041

>>11728028
I want Kaorin to arrest me.

>> No.11728114

is there any dark or crazy denpa song

>> No.11728187

>>11728114

absolutely not.

>>11716495

Queens of MOSAIC.Girls is fucking glorious, glad I went for the bonus disk too. Only that hermaphrodite song is kinda bad, the rest is top notch. The miku CD is also godly. Fuck the haters.

>> No.11728340

>>11728028
Kaorin because she's less shit

>>11728114
Some have been posted in this thread

>> No.11728354

>>11728028
mmbk because i dont like wavy hair

>> No.11728571

Does someone keep a collection of all of Nanahira's songs? I really would like to assemble one, but considering she might have only a single song on any given CD, the list of stuff I'd have to download and sort through seems pretty large. Does anyone already have a project like this started / completed, or am I on my own?

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ARM releasing a new 2hu arrange CD at Comiket. miko from MOSAIC.WAV is on it.
http://www.iosysos.com/cd/armdenpa2/

>> No.11729942

>>11729191
I'm really liking track 5.

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>>11728028
I want to be abused by mmbk

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>>11732351
Me too, very badly.

>> No.11733063

>>11708436
ear rape general

>> No.11733190
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11733190

What is your favorite ave new project song?
Mine is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arHuLs_g8T4

>> No.11733385

>>11732351
>>11732353
Shiny!

>> No.11733469

>>11733190
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrkoxhWo7is
I just love those tempo changes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJBSQA1O1LU
This is also one of my favorites even though there's not as much going on compared to their other songs.

>> No.11733558

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItFfoRzVOaE&t=1m33s
Is this dempa?

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11733616

Anybody know where I can get this single?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1bGQx8yM8&feature=player_embedded

>> No.11733643

>>11733190
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WTijrGY3c

I really like ave;new project, it's hard to think of any favorites.

>> No.11733806

>>11733190
I'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Q9OYrZlz0&list=PL4BEEF289F6729CB1

I cannot remember how many times I've looped this song years ago..

>> No.11733935

>>11733190

Not Ave;new Project, but close enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSE6YuOlJco

>> No.11733945
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I hope for a download link to the new MOSAIC.WAV album for Christmas.

>> No.11733999

>>11733558
Yeah. Godly song by the way.
Anyone bought the short version?
If I had the money and a credit card I'd buy the fuck out of it so they make a full version.

>> No.11734136

>>11733945
unlikely, because it's release during Comiket, which is after Christmas

>> No.11734247

>>11733643
>I really like ave;new project, it's hard to think of any favorites.

Especially since a lot of their songs tend to sound the same (even as someone who loves them, it's true).

>> No.11734249

>>11733945
>>11734136
There are people who have Astronomical Akiba Pop, which I believe he's talking about, in this very thread.

>> No.11734294

>>11734249
It's probably the same guy who posts pictures of his albums and never uploads them in previous threads.
I don't come here to suck dick, so I'll wait until someone rips them out of good will.

After Comiket more people will have it, so the chance of a rip will be higher.

>> No.11736181

>>11734294
>poorfag calling buyfag a dick
top lel

>> No.11736406

>>11716063
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUZq_iAuvg
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kpCAbFruIk
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBlVJqxzc6g
Awesome. Are these trudenpa?

>> No.11736819

>>11736406
Trudenpa

>> No.11736882

>>11736181
Where did I even say that in my post you dumb shit? I meant "suck dick" as in going "Please rip the album for us I'll do anything you want my master ;_;", no, fuck you.

>> No.11736919

>>11733190
This is probably my all time favorite. I loved the surprisingly high tension of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4mwxXCo4o8

And this. Gets me in a trance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMwtk3s0Hs

Also the one used for the Twin Angel anime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryE9tvfYUjw

And also agreeing with >>11733469 , Lv.99☆しゅーくりーむ※H・E・R・O!! is probably their most creative song to date.

>>11736406
yuuuup

>> No.11736996

>>11736406
sugoi, trudempa is awesome

>> No.11737078

>>11736996
>>11736406
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj1HrEy12lU

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>>11732353
>>11732351
>>11728354

>> No.11738111

>>11738061
I want to drink mmbk's motherly milk

>> No.11738121

>>11738111
i want to feed mmbk milk and then i want her to call me a pervert

>> No.11738153
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>>11738111
>Has 2 children
>Age unknown
>Divorced
>Had first child at 18
>Leeches off husband inheritance
>Makoto: "When I spoke to her on the phone some girl (supposedly her nephew) called her 'Mama'. When I asked her she said she called her 'mama' while he called her mother 'okaa-san'. Obviously a lie"
>She's a compulsive liar
>Makoto: "Everything she says on Twitter is a lie"
>After getting dumped by Merochin she went to drink with Miichan and fucked with him. Twice.
>She has been in Voice club -> then Doctor -> Dancer -> Singer
>She had plastic surgery done to her
>She talks shit about Kaorin behind her back
>She has a boyfriend now

>> No.11738164
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11738164

>>11738111
>>11738121
>Has 2 children
>Age unknown
>Divorced
>Had first child at 18
>Leeches off husband inheritance
>Makoto: "When I spoke to her on the phone some boy (supposedly her nephew) called her 'Mama'. When I asked her she said she called her 'mama' while he called her mother 'okaa-san'. Obviously a lie"
>She's a compulsive liar
>Makoto: "Everything she says on Twitter is a lie"
>After getting dumped by Merochin she went to drink with Miichan and fucked with him. Twice.
>She has been in Voice club -> then Doctor -> Dancer -> Singer
>She had plastic surgery done to her
>She talks shit about Kaorin behind her back
>She has a boyfriend now

>> No.11738173
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11738173

http://i-ikioi.com/th/jasmine/1376288502/
うんちでちゃう

>> No.11738170

>>11738164
mmnk is a doctor? I want her to diagnose me! I want to hear her tell me that things don't look good for me! I want her to give me a physical examination and a prostate examination and a sperm count and draw blood!

>> No.11738177

>>11738170
You're disgusting. Kill yourself.

>> No.11738184

>>11738177
I want mmbk to say that to me.

>> No.11738187

mmbk threads officially dead
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/jasmine/1385217704/

>> No.11738190

>>11738184
She won't because you'll never meet her, and even if she did she wouldn't care about you because she would be fucking with some other guy better than you. Anyway many hookers are better than her, you might want to try that, they can say that stuff for you too so don't worry.

>> No.11738194

>>11738164
She must enter in the bath with her son! I better she tried to do lewd things with him.
I wish mmbk were my mother.

>> No.11738205

>>11738190
Prostitutes aren't cute unless they're fresh lolis.

>> No.11738211

>>11738190
Actually being a foreigner gives a lot of points.
I better she would love a half son.

>> No.11738225

>>11738211
What if he's black? Do you think mmbk would really want anything to do with a black man?

>> No.11738229
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>>11738205
mmbk isn't cute either. She's the ugliest one here, I think you can pinpoint her.

>> No.11738236

>>11738229
She is cute, and her body is cute. She has very nice knees.

>> No.11738242

>>11738236
You're just on heat.

>> No.11738258

>>11738229
prostitutes doesn't have loli voice

>> No.11738275

>>11738258
They do if they're a loli.

>> No.11738280

>>11738258
What about a Japanese prostitute? Maybe they're good at loli voice.

>> No.11738281

>>11738229

Is that nanahira on the left?

>> No.11738291

>>11738280
Japanese prostitutes have paranoia and doesn't accept gaijin.

>> No.11738336

>>11738281
I think she's the one on the right, since dudes at 2ch are laughing at her teeth.

Talking about Nanahira, it seems mmbk used to talk shit about her too, but that's probably bullshit.

>> No.11738379

>>11738229
So many denpa singers together... Someone could rape them at the same time and then become a legend.

>> No.11738747

>>11738336

Momobako is the 2nd one from the right. She posts pictures of herself on twitter all the time.

>> No.11738787

>>11738747
Please read the post I replied to.

>> No.11738803
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11738803

She is cute as hell dude, I would fuck her and her children.

>> No.11738818

>>11738803
She just uses a lot of makeup.

>> No.11738889

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdukb0-1AfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnB4YaFv6yM

>>11729191
I thought you were talking about miko from Alternative Ending at first. Holy shit this is surprising, I didn't notice it was her at first. She's talented.

I'm guessing this is the follow-up for げきおこ☆メイガス, looks like a quite decent release. And that's a lewd cover.

>> No.11738900

>>11738803
What is wrong with her nose? Why is her entire eye her pupil?

>> No.11738904

>>11738900
she is turning 2D

>> No.11738915

>>11738904
What a disgusting looking transformation.

>> No.11738917
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>>11738803
Tammy is cuter and she's an actual otaku, which actually matters for me when deciding my favorite denpa singer.

>> No.11739684

>>11736882
>poorfag getting mad
top lel

>> No.11739702

>>11738336

She has a tag with her name on her skirt. On a side note, her ears seem really large.

>> No.11739719

>>11739702
Oh I didn't see the tag. At first I thought the one on the right looks like Kaorin but I'm not sure.

>>11739684
I'm not even mad, I'm sorry my way of speaking offends your little brain.

>> No.11739839

what the fuck did you do to this thread you fuccbois

>> No.11739841

Can you guys take your idol worship to the idol thread? I'm here for the music. I don't care if they're mass murderers, or worse, had more than two boyfriends in the past, as long as they do their jobs and deliver good music.

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>>11739839
Welcome to /jp/

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>>11739841
>and deliver good music
The problem is that we're failing there too

>> No.11739873
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11739873

Rhythm game junkie here, here are the latest related tracks from IIDX, taken from the recently released SPADA OST (FLAC).

MOSAIC.WAV - 即席!脳直★ミュージックシステム
https://www.mediafire.com/?8ecfa9ajjaq39ns

ARM+feat. 山本椛+Brasscapsule - カジノファイヤーことみちゃん
https://www.mediafire.com/?k278pxd8upsqhdd

ななひら - 超!!遠距離らぶ♡メ~ル
https://www.mediafire.com/?fb3cj4u14258j25

夏色ビキニのPrim - †渚の小悪魔ラヴリィ~レイディオ†(IIDX EDIT)
https://www.mediafire.com/?e44vctxgxt6ibcj

>> No.11739884

>>11739873
That MOSAIC.WAV song is really nice. Thank you!

>> No.11739889

>>11739873
Ah and before you get your hopes up, they're not full versions. Very *very* few IIDX songs get full versions at all so, nothing we can do about that. But at least we can blast them in full quality.

>> No.11739907 [DELETED] 
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And also, as some might know Taiko no Tatsujin is a goldmine for moe, denpa and weird songs so listening to some OSTs the other day I made a small selection of related songs I wanted to share (MP3 V0).

Ranges from mild moe songs to denpa (like the classic エゴエゴアタクシ), and some others were included for related artists like Chata or Kaorin. I've might missed some though.

Download:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ddd7f3j8mj425dt

Song list:
http://pastebin.com/g15ZKxnu

>> No.11739913
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11739913

And also, as some might know Taiko no Tatsujin is a goldmine for moe, denpa and weird songs so listening to some OSTs the other day I made a small selection of related songs I wanted to share (MP3).

Ranges from mild moe songs to denpa (like the classic エゴエゴアタクシ), and also some were included for related artists like Chata or Kaorin. I've might missed some though.

Download:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ddd7f3j8mj425dt

Included songs: http://pastebin.com/5yBThLZq

>> No.11739958

>>11739913
>http://pastebin.com/5yBThLZq
>no saitama 2000
>no ekiben 2000
>no dance storm
>no ryougen no mai
>no blue rose ruin
>no black rose apostle
>no dont cut

what are you doing

>> No.11739961

>>11739958
They're not denpa related as far as I know.

>> No.11739963

>>11739958
who are you quoting

>> No.11740038

>>11739963
Didn't even bother to put a question mark... That's how much contempt he holds for you... wow

>> No.11740038,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11739873
I can't stop listening to this MOSAIC.WAV song. The cut of this song never gets old; there are no less interesting parts to the song. This is in no way bad or lacking at all, but I wonder what the full version sounds like.

>> No.11742738
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11742738

Is there such a thing as visual denpa? Are we allowed to discuss it ITT?

I'm going to post examples of what I think it is.

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>>11742738

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>>11742744

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>>11742747

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>>11742755

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>>11742756

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>>11742763

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>>11742738
Sure.

I remember someone in a very old thread separating denpa imagery in two groups; nauseatingly cute illustrations (moe referencing) and the plainly schizophrenic stuff (denpa-kei). I'm guess both being creepy enough for the normal bystander. The few guys who read denpa VNs around here might know about it.

>> No.11742780
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I also remember the Highend Color guys knew what they were doing on their cover.

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>> No.11742804

I need some really denpa music
like the crazy stuff

>> No.11742811

>>11742804
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMSNvHVOQY

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>> No.11742816
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I didn't know the vocalist from ULTRA-PRISM did illustrations. Cute.

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>>11742816
Toromi does illustrations too

>> No.11743033

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk60z7mUs2I

The world needs more Secret Sister 内緒妹

>> No.11743042
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11743042

mmbk does illustrations too

>> No.11743198

ahahaha; do your mothers know you listen to musics such as this?

>> No.11743230

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLJpdXH5HNM
This song gives me such a nostalgic feeling, I feel like going back to the 90s and early 2000s.

>>11739873
CaaaaaasinoooO!

>> No.11743251

>>11743198

My mother knows aboslutely nothing about my hobbies.

>> No.11743266

>>11742816
That's Koge Donbo's art (you know, the lady behind Di Gi Charat and Pita Ten). In fact, it says so on the picture. Tsukimiya Usagi's name is right below it, though, so I guess she's the writer or something?

>> No.11743335

>>11743266
You're right, my bad. No wonder why the style seemed so familiar.

http://ultra-prism.com/moesong-ssm/

She's indeed the writer, but she still appears under イラスト他, I guess she's being credited as an assistant.

>> No.11743344

Does anyone have toropixel? The RTL copy of it doesn't have 冥王星(ぷるーと)

>> No.11745005

>>11706539
What's the problem with it being Shibuya-kei? Denpa songs aren't limited to Akiba-kei and there's a relation with Shibuya-kei too; Neko Mimi Mode comes to mind. I don't think both are so incompatible as some people make them seem.

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>>11743344
Straight from jpopsuki, mp3:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ba57mfl49vx82ml

flac:
http://www.mediafire.com/?79no86i5itgolal

>> No.11747374
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11747374

I can't remember if I ever posted this single. Now defunct trio called Triple Icecream, one of the members being リズナ/鈴木ななこ. Seems it hit the bucket around the time she changed her name.

トリプル☆アイスクリーム - トリ☆アイCDフレーバー Vol.1

V0 self-rip, cover art embedded, the usual yadayada.

https://mega.co.nz/#!8IFnGS6L!f5UxNTtmexpT_OnbBNm_WAtTlHh7U8C8Rv30UiWzVu4

>> No.11747495

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtLABt1N8Ic

MilliRobo.beta is awesome.

>> No.11747659

>>11743198
What if my mother sings musics such as this

>> No.11747818

>>11747374
I remember hearing about rizna being a member of this, thanks.

>> No.11749150

>>11747818

This was featured on denpanosekai.com a long ass time ago

http://www.denpanosekai.com/2010/02/tpazolite-feat-is-match-made-in-heaven.html

>> No.11749234

>>11749150
Yeah, that's how I heard about it.

>> No.11751215
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11751215

Katakiri Rekka is going into denpa territory again it seems, and with no other with a "moe moe guro denpa yandere CD".

http://www.rekka.jp/release/min0029/

Voice, lyrics and composition by herself; arrangements by 北野敬, HIR, 羽鳥風画, Morrigan, Shade.

Other works to be released this Comiket by related circles
http://clixtxt.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-8.html

>> No.11751268

Also it seems the Haitai Nanafa ED single, ゆいまーる☆わーるど , is being released at C85. Singer is 綾瀬理恵[Ayase Rie] (you might know her for her pseudonym 白沢理恵[Shirasawa Rie] from ave;new).

http://hai-tai.jp/category/news/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJskH1gZVGk (TV size)

>> No.11754551

>>11751215
>yandere
Always the best.

>> No.11754658

>>11747495
It's a shame that they haven't released more stuff under that title, both 園山モル and マリネ do some great music

>> No.11756027

So does MOSAIC.WAV release their music under a major record label or not? I've heard someone say in this thread long long ago that they're under a major record label, but Sham Studio seems to be their own record label (or at least one that doesn't publish anything else). Then again, it could be like how Muse is published by their own label Helium 3 which is actually owned by Warner Music.

>> No.11756085

>>11756027

Universal Japan

>> No.11756087

>>11756027
They're available on Google Play and Amazon mp3 (probably iTunes too), so I'd say yes

>> No.11756882

>>11756027
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Astronomical AKIBA-POP (2013) was released under Universal and Amusement Pack (2008) under Lantis, yet All Last One Chance (2013) was released under the Sham Studio label. It guess they just pick whatever is the most favorable option at the time for the product specifically.

>> No.11758559

>>11745005

Shibuya-kei != generic techno/electropop

Denpa songs and Shibuya-kei are totally different ends of the spectrum.

>> No.11758562

>>11758559
Both are equally as generic electroshit./

>> No.11758572

>>11758559
What makes you think that denpa songs necessarily have to be techno or electropop?

>> No.11758573

The new MOSAIC.WAV album is pretty damn good again, there still hasn't been a denpa group/musician able to touch them.

>> No.11758580

>>11758572
>>11758562

Where did I say denpa has to be technopop?

The implication being made is that Shibuya-kei is Techno/electropop, which is untrue. That's just a recent facet of 'Shibuya-kei'.

Capsule's latest album, Flipper's Guitar, Perfume, Cornelius, Takako Minekawa...all totally different music styles but they're all Shibuya-kei.

>> No.11758596

>>11756087
And eMusic too! (which actually has the cheapest prices for legal digital music, for subscribers)

I'm one of those people who actually spends a lot of money on music. MOSAIC.WAV's digital releases (in the US) are kind of odd, though. They have 21 albums/singles out, but not Space Akiba-Pop, HeartsNative, or Amusement Pack for some reason.

>> No.11758653

>>11758580
>The implication being made is that Shibuya-kei is Techno/electropop, which is untrue.
I never implied that either.

My point is that I don't understand why Shibuya-kei is automatically excluded from having denpa songs, why do you say they're different ends of the spectrum? While it's indeed rare, Saori@Destiny, みらゐ or Dimitri from Paris are often associated with Shibuya-kei but do have songs that are considered denpa songs that somehow managed to blend elements from akiba-kei. And that's only assuming the akiba-kei related definition of denpa song.

>>11758562
Denpa isn't necessarily electro.

>> No.11758656

Also don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm honestly interested in the reason.

>> No.11758655

>>11758573
I wish I could afford to buy it. I'll just have to wait until someone somewhere uploads it.

>> No.11758672

>>11758653

Denpa absolutely cannot be Shibuya-kei because Denpa is inherently Akiba-kei. They are opposites of each other.

Dimitri from Paris is not Shibuya-kei nor Denpa. I know Dimitri personally, he his a house/disco DJ and has been on the circuit since the early 90s. He's not even from Paris.

There are no 'elements that are Akiba-kei' if it's Akiba-kei then it's Akiba-kei, if it's Shibuya-kei then it's Shibuya-kei. Give me an example where they can be both. You're assuming that Either one is a certain genre of music, which it is not.

>> No.11758725

>>11758672
>Denpa absolutely cannot be Shibuya-kei because Denpa is inherently Akiba-kei. They are opposites of each other.
I agree that they are, but what about でんぱ組.inc? They seem to touch both shibuya-kei and akiba-kei in different songs. Please correct me on this.

>Dimitri from Paris is not Shibuya-kei nor Denpa.
I never said he was, I said he has made a denpa song which is the well known Neko mimi mode. I'm talking about individual songs here, there's no such thing as "denpa artists", that's just a shitty recent fad put out by artists like ちぃむdmp. A denpa song is an individual exception and comes out naturally by a blend of specific elements.

>he his a house/disco DJ and has been on the circuit since the early 90s.
I know this and I don't think I implied otherwise.

I replied to a poster who said that Chata's album was shibuya-kei therefore unrelated. While I agree it was mostly shibuya-kei, the same way I don't think there are albums composed exclusively by akiba-kei denpa songs, I also fail to see why Chata's album would completely and immediately exclude the possibility of having denpa elements in any of its songs (I'm talking specifically about Channel Three). Their previous album, ぱんださんようちえん, had a blend of several different elements overall, including denpa-kei.

But maybe, as you say, I'm confusing shibuya-kei with new wave. Another examples in this area I can think of are those Pico Magic bonus songs and that Kaorin's song in Taiko I forgot the name.

>> No.11758776

>>11758725
So you mean all those denpa albums which get released every comiket aren't actually "denpa"?

>> No.11758821

>>11758776
I didn't say that. I just say that it's wrong to always assume that those denpa albums contain only denpa songs. I think this leads to people wrongly assuming some songs are denpa songs only because they were in a "denpa album" when they're not. So I was applying the same logic to a "shibuya-kei" album.

This is why I prefer to search for denpa songs individually. But that's my opinion so feel free to disagree.

>> No.11758842
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11758842

Get ready for a totally non-denpa Sumire album.
Can't wait to be disappointed!

>> No.11758876

>>11758725
>I agree that they are, but what about でんぱ組.inc? They seem to touch both shibuya-kei and akiba-kei in different songs. Please correct me on this.

How do they touch on 'Shibuya-kei'? Because they're an idol group? Idols aren't exclusively Shibuya-kei. Because they make Technopop-ish numbers? Technopop isn't exclusively Shibuya-kei.

If you were to show Kyary or Perfume to Shibuya-kei fans in the 90s they wouldn't understand it at all, it's about a million miles from what they are used to, if anything polar opposites.

Also, as much as people may reference it as such, Neko Mimi mode isn't really a denpa song by the standards of the time it came out. Sure nowadays it might be considered so, but back when it was made it didn't aim to be a 'denpa song' and was not 'Akiba-kei'. It was just a song people said 'Hey this is similar to how I percieve denpa to be, so it must be denpa'.

It's like referring to Disco as House music because 120-130bpm 4/4 dance music falls under the umbrella of House music today.

The bottom line is this: Shibuya-kei music is music characterized by Shibuya, hence why it's musical structure, genre etc. has changed over the years as Shibuya's trends have. Akiba-kei music is characterized by Akihabara and denpa music IS the music of Akihabara, it's Akiba-kei and if it wasn't it wouldn't be denpa. Akihabara and Shibuya are, by nature the polar opposites of each other, that's why you can't have a record that's both Shibuya-kei and Akiba-kei at the same time - it just doesn't make any sense.

>> No.11758960

>>11758876
>How do they touch on 'Shibuya-kei'? Because they're an idol group? Idols aren't exclusively Shibuya-kei.
I was basing myself on what some Japanese people say, but for example 強い気持ち・強い愛 still sounds like your typical Shibuya-kei stuff. Still, the point that their recent album isn't exclusively denpa songs still stands, and I think the same can happen with a Shibuya-kei record, or any record for that matter.

>Also, as much as people may reference it as such, Neko Mimi mode isn't really a denpa song by the standards of the time it came out. Sure nowadays it might be considered so, but back when it was made it didn't aim to be a 'denpa song' and was not 'Akiba-kei'.
Because at the time there really weren't any "standards" for denpa songs. This is like saying that the first metal songs, when metal wasn't even defined, aren't metal because they weren't made with metal in mind. Genre associations are made after, and the denpa song boom was around ~2006, while Neko Mimi Mode was released in 2004.

I think many songs, especially older songs, weren't composed with "denpa" in mind. MOSAIC.WAV and Momoi might fall in this area. And recent example might be gdgd Fairies OST, in which the composer admitted he didn't know what a denpa song was until later.

>It was just a song people said 'Hey this is similar to how I percieve denpa to be, so it must be denpa'.
I'm not sure what you want to imply with this but denpa has always been something very ambiguous and if most people perceive it as a denpa song with clear reasons for it, then so be it. The over-the-top 萌え萌え中毒性 of the song is extreme, almost in a parodical way.

>> No.11758970

>>11758876
(cont.)

>Shibuya-kei music is music characterized by Shibuya, hence why it's musical structure, genre etc. has changed over the years as Shibuya's trends have. Akiba-kei music is characterized by Akihabara and denpa music IS the music of Akihabara, it's Akiba-kei and if it wasn't it wouldn't be denpa. Akihabara and Shibuya are, by nature the polar opposites of each other, that's why you can't have a record that's both Shibuya-kei and Akiba-kei at the same time - it just doesn't make any sense.
Then we should make it clear if 茶太+みらゐ works are Shibuya-kei or not. What about ぱんださんようちえん or きりんさん女子大生? Maybe we're just arguing about Shibuya-kei here when in fact they aren't Shibuya-kei works in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fXxgPQSyY

>> No.11759036

>>11758842
Is there any other preview of the songs on the album? I know there is that one, but I'm hoping it doesn't represent the hole thing.

>> No.11759088

>>11758960
>but for example 強い気持ち・強い愛 still sounds like your typical Shibuya-kei stuff

And this is where you get it wrong.

What does Shibuya-kei 'Sound' like? Answer: Nothing. Shibuya-kei is not characterized by its 'sound'.

> and the denpa song boom was around ~2006, while Neko Mimi Mode was released in 2004.

The denpa song boom came long before that. Neko Mimi Mode wasn't produced as a denpa record. It wasn't made with Akihabara in mind, it's essentially just a J-Pop track.

Momoi and MOSAIC.WAV are absolutely denpa. MOSAIC.WAV have identified as denpa right from the start and UNDER17/Momoi did very early into their success too.

>> No.11759174

>>11759088
>Shibuya-kei is not characterized by its 'sound'.
Then I should kindly ask why is that Chata's album Shibuya-kei in the first place? While I'm sure you weren't the one who mentioned it first, I think you might be able to clarify.

>The denpa song boom came long before that. Neko Mimi Mode wasn't produced as a denpa record. It wasn't made with Akihabara in mind, it's essentially just a J-Pop track.
Denpa songs weren't well defined back then, and again it doesn't matter if it wasn't produced as a denpa record in mind, it is a denpa song the same way The Beatles' Helter Skelter is proto-metal. Or are you telling me that a repetitive overly cute moe song with over-the-top cute singing about cat ears isn't an akiba-kei denpa song?

http://web.archive.org/web/20100510140039/http://situmon.hp.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/votec.cgi

And it doesn't matter if it's a J-Pop track; Haruko Momoi is J-pop too. A song being denpa doesn't exclude it from being J-Pop, Rock, Enka, New Wave or Hardcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcag0nzkNtU

>MOSAIC.WAV have identified as denpa right from the start
They never used the word denpa to refer to their own songs. While they surely are conscious about it now, they passively avoid it; compared to for example ARM who's very open about it and does it intentionally.

>> No.11759183

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unyNNq-FnBY

is it denpa or shibuya kei

this is confusing you guys are so confusing

>> No.11759189

>>11759036
Not yet, but you might want to look at the composers of the song in the track list
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00EAKPB64

>> No.11759349

>>11733190

can someone point me to a DL of this song? It's not on jski.

>> No.11759353
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11759353

Denpa songs: Serious Business

>> No.11759362

>>11759349
It's included in their ぱるちゅの☆おやCHU album, track 4.

http://www.mediafire.com/?15oroln8e4f5be5

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>>11759362

Thank you very much!

>> No.11760458

>>11759174
>They never used the word denpa to refer to their own songs. While they surely are conscious about it now, they passively avoid it; compared to for example ARM who's very open about it and does it intentionally.

Yes they did. Even on the Kurukuru Risk CD there were references in the lyrics.

Denpa was well defined before MOSAIC.WAV ever hit the scene, it was fairly early into Momoi's career that she embraced the denpa label and people were using it before she ever picked up a mic too. Denpa has been around since the early 90s and in some cases - even before. MOSAIC have always referred to themselves as denpa and take complete pride in it, go listen to the lyrics - they are practically denpa by design, unlike Momoi who initially didn't like/understand the term but quickly embraced it, go listen to her lyrics with UNDER17, one of their biggest hits references it.

>Denpa songs weren't well defined back then, and again it doesn't matter if it wasn't produced as a denpa record in mind

Yes it does, denpa is not defined by specifically lyrical content or style of music, it's a subculture/phenomena before everything else, not a genre of music - it's dependent on the cultural origins of the songs. Dmitri did not write Neko Mimi Mode because he felt he identified with Akiba or denpa culture, in fact he didn't even know what denpa was and probably still doesn't. It was a J-Pop hit written for an anime about a girl with cat ears, the lyrics are all about the anime, go watch it. Nothing to do with Akiba or Denpa.

There is a lot of J-Pop right now (or 'Moe pop') which people think is denpa but isn't. Singing about eroge or cat ears does not make your song 'denpa'. It's not neatly defined like that.

And I never once said that denpa excludes itself from any one genre. The first ever denpa track was heavy metal - a far cry from UNDER17 and MOSAIC.WAV. But the reality is that Shibuya-kei and Denpa cannot cross paths because neither are defined by musical style.

>> No.11760491

>>11759183

Denpa. It's doujin music - Shibuya-kei isn't sold at Comiket under a circle name. Selling Shibuya-kei music at Comiket would defeat the point of it being Shibuya-kei seeing as Comiket is an Akiba-kei event, even if it isn't actually in Akihabara. Shibuya-kei is very much indie music with its own labels and scene, if it leaves that scene then it's not really Shibuya-kei.

Same reason many people don't consider Perfume, MEG, Kyary, Saori etc. to be Shibuya-kei - it's not really part of that scene if it's on a major label being played across the country. The same debate was brought up in the late 90s when Sucrette et al was being played in the department stores when the French bossa nova Shibuya-kei stuff being churned out at the time. People said it wasn't Shibuya-kei because it was moving away from the indie hipster scene it had at the time, so you can imagine that the techno/electropop stuff is about a million miles from what the Shibuya-kei fans consider to be Shibuya-kei.

>> No.11760852

C85 Ended and still nobody dont want to share :(

>> No.11761136

>>11760458
Both have mentioned it wasn't their intent to specifically make denpa music, it just kind of ends up that way when making music aimed at Akiba-kei. Note that MOSAIC.WAV always calls their music "Akiba-pop".

Also, I get the feeling that lines like "Sweet radio waves arriving from the galaxy" are meant to be taken literally.

>> No.11761315

>>11760491
You know, if you can't label something without knowing where and how it was released, then maybe the label is just useless. Music is classified to simplify describing it, not to perpetuate tribalism.

Not the guy you reply to, but I, too, associate Shibuya-kei with what I can roughly describe as modernized ye-ye/bossa nova and Akiba/denpa with shrilly electronic sound with broken rhythms and high-pitched vocals. I can accept being incorrect, but I really can't accept meaningless terminology, so if you don't like us misusing those terms, how about proposing some descriptive alternatives and we switch to those?

>> No.11761781 [DELETED] 

>>11760458
>Yes it does, denpa is not defined by specifically lyrical content or style of music, it's a subculture/phenomena before everything else, not a genre of music
I know, but I don't think the author must be conscious of this when composing it, he might (and in many cases do) touch specific elements by accident like it has happened many times; example Maeyamada Kenichi or Funta; and those elements don't necessarily have to be explicit and intentional reference to akiba culture.

>Dmitri did not write Neko Mimi Mode because he felt he identified with Akiba or denpa culture, in fact he didn't even know what denpa was and probably still doesn't.
And that's why I said, many artists have made denpa songs with people telling them later. This happened with most older songs.

Besides, I think you're confusing Akiba-kei, Denpa-kei, and Denpa song. Denpa song is a more abstract and wide thing.

>There is a lot of J-Pop right now (or 'Moe pop') which people think is denpa but isn't. Singing about eroge or cat ears does not make your song 'denpa'. It's not neatly defined like that.
I know and I agree completely, but there are aspects of denpa songs other than explicit reference to Akiba culture in its lyrics, like over the top experimental or chaotic sound, chaotic lyrics (this includes from deep shit down to sex jokes), addictiveness, feel of madness or creepiness (explicit or implicit), etc.

I agree that many generic moepop songs today aren't denpa songs, but Neko Mimi Mode definitely goes into denpa brainwashing territory.

>right now
I don't know what you mean by "right now"; Japanese otakus voted for Neko Mimi Modo back in *2005* as the best denpa song of the year, if you're saying they were all wrong back then then I don't think we are all talking about different concepts.

>> No.11761786

>>11760458
(cont.)
>they are practically denpa by design, unlike Momoi who initially didn't like/understand the term but quickly embraced it
But you just said that Momoi didn't understand the term until it was pointed out to her. That's what I'm saying and it has happened several times, especially with major artists.

>But the reality is that Shibuya-kei and Denpa cannot cross paths because neither are defined by musical style.
I understand that part and thanks for correcting me, but you still haven't told me why Chata's album is Shibuya-kei. Maybe it isn't.

>>11760491
>Denpa. It's doujin music
No, there are many denpa songs in anime and _especially_ eroge, where it took root. Without them I doubt doujin units dedicated to denpa songs would exist today.

>>11761315
>Music is classified to simplify describing it, not to perpetuate tribalism.
This is a good way to put it.

>> No.11761796

>>11760458
>Yes it does, denpa is not defined by specifically lyrical content or style of music, it's a subculture/phenomena before everything else, not a genre of music
I know, but I don't think the author must be conscious of this when composing it, he might (and in many cases do) touch some elements specific to denpa songs by accident; example Maeyamada Kenichi; and those elements don't necessarily have to be explicit and intentional reference to akiba culture.

>Dmitri did not write Neko Mimi Mode because he felt he identified with Akiba or denpa culture, in fact he didn't even know what denpa was and probably still doesn't.
I know, Dimitri is not the only one. This happened with most older songs and it doesn't exclude them from being denpa songs.

Besides, I think you're confusing Akiba-kei and Denpa song. While most Denpa songs take root in Akiba-kei, Denpa song as a whole is a more abstract and wide thing, not necessarily and ultimately about Akiba.

>There is a lot of J-Pop right now (or 'Moe pop') which people think is denpa but isn't. Singing about eroge or cat ears does not make your song 'denpa'. It's not neatly defined like that.
I know and I agree completely, but there are aspects of denpa songs other than explicit reference to Akiba culture in its lyrics, like over the top experimental or chaotic sound, chaotic lyrics (this includes from deep shit down to sex jokes), addictiveness, feel of madness or creepiness (explicit or implicit), etc. ぱんださんようちえん is about a girl singing about pandas.

I agree that many generic moepop songs today aren't denpa songs, but Neko Mimi Mode definitely goes into denpa brainwashing territory.

>right now
I don't know what you mean by "right now"; Japanese otakus voted for Neko Mimi Modo back in *2005* as the best denpa song of the year, if you're saying they were all wrong back then then I think we are all talking about different concepts.

>> No.11761824

>>11760852
Dumb nigger, give people a couple weeks.

>> No.11762089

Happy new year niggas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dliOFazgxmo

>> No.11762419

Is denpa a subgenre of J-pop?

>> No.11762461

>>11762419
It's popular* music that's Japanese, so it could be regarded as such. Though that raises the question whether pop, Japanese or otherwise, should be considered a genre in the first place.

* Note: not "popular" as in "liked by a lot of people"

>> No.11762657

>>11762419
Denpa is not a genre. It's a type of song, like a ballad or something.

>> No.11762658

>>11762419
trudempa isn't, only falsedempa like chiimu dmp is

>> No.11763703

>>11762461
The genre of pop is perfectly well defined, why do people try to deny it exists?

But of course the "pop" in "J-Pop" is not pop the genre, just a shortened form of "popular".

>> No.11763757
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11763757

It's never coming, is it?

>> No.11763762
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Can KOTOKO be trudenpa

>> No.11763785

>>11763757
What is?

>> No.11763980

>>11763703
If you can tell me how The Beatles's music and Lady Gaga's music share enough common ground to be the considered the same genre, then by all means do. I'm going to smack you if it's something like "they have a similar pattern of sections", though.

>> No.11764155

>>11763980
At a bare minimum, pop is music that's:
- accessible to mainstream audience
- focused on simple repetitive melodies
- created through extensive studio production

Of course there's much more to it, but this alone is usually enough to correctly distinguish pop from not pop. And if you wish to play the "but that's not a coherent style" card, you already goofed up by mentioning The Beatles, who employed every musical style they could. Including compositions that perfectly anticipated the rise of electronic dance music that Lady Gaga now builds upon.

>they have a similar pattern of sections

Yes, song structure is also a part of what makes pop pop. And you know it. And you think that by stating that you know it you can somehow make it go away, or at least threaten me into forgoing it in further discussion. I find this extremely dishonest.

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I found a rip for this album that was mentioned earlier by another anon. Only the second track is denpa sadly.

https://mega.co.nz/#!uM4nwDSC!K33NSWQErP0gHwNwksufLy3dWUUra6PUYgvqsdWPnzc

>> No.11764315

>>11764155
>- accessible to mainstream audience
What's considered accessible to a mainstream audience changes over time, so that's not a very useful criteria.
>- focused on simple repetitive melodies
Not an explicit requirement and not unique to pop.
>- created through extensive studio production
Why would production details have anything to do with identifying something as being of a specific genre?

>you already goofed up by mentioning The Beatles, who employed every musical style they could
If anything, that strengthens my argument. If pop can encompass all the different styles The Beatles have employed and more, what use is it as a music genre?

>Including compositions that perfectly anticipated the rise of electronic dance music that Lady Gaga now builds upon.
And reggae builds on ska (among other things), but that doesn't mean you can call reggae ska.

>Yes, song structure is also a part of what makes pop pop. And you know it. And you think that by stating that you know it you can somehow make it go away, or at least threaten me into forgoing it in further discussion. I find this extremely dishonest.
That's akin to saying that every story that uses a setup-confrontation-resolution structure is in the same literary genre. Actually, it's worse than that, because you can change the structure of a song without changing its nature much easier than you could do the same with storytelling. Would Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds or Pokerface shift genres if the structure was changed but everything else was kept the same? Is this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToqeQuZHa3s
in a different genre from Nanahira's usual stuff because it happens to have ~20 refrains and nothing but those refrains?

>> No.11764346

I think the Japanese word キチガイ is a good way to lossely describe what denpa songs communicate.

>> No.11764629

>>11764315
>What's considered accessible to a mainstream audience changes over time, so that's not a very useful criteria.

Borders of every genre change over time, so that's not a very useful criticism. And the criterium itself is useful because, first, it eliminates harsh, abrasive sounds, and second, not many non-standard musical techniques receive mainstream recognition and acceptance. You can easily enumerate those that do.

>Not an explicit requirement

I believe it's pretty explicit.

>not unique to pop

That's why there's more to the definition. That's a pointless remark and it appears to me you typed it just to type anything at all.

>Why would production details have anything to do with identifying something as being of a specific genre?

Because they're what makes it unique? Perhaps less so today, when electronic techniques and even purely electronic music are widespread, but back in the 60s, when pop was originally recognized as a genre, the sophistication of production and recording techniques brought an extremely important paradigm shift, and it became even more important as a distinction with every subsequent new genre and scene preferring authenticity and lo-fi sound.

>If pop can encompass all the different styles The Beatles have employed and more, what use is it as a music genre?

To describe bands like The Beatles, for starters.

>And reggae builds on ska (among other things), but that doesn't mean you can call reggae ska.

But you can call both Lady Gaga and The Beatles pop, so this analogy fails right here.

>Would Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds or Pokerface shift genres if the structure was changed but everything else was kept the same?

If it was changed to the point where verses have no discernible melodic patterns and structure, then yes, most probably. Otherwise, small changes like averting the order of verses and choruses would of course be inconsequential.

>> No.11764896

>>11764629
>Borders of every genre change over time, so that's not a very useful criticism.
Only to an extent. And once a certain boundary is passed, they tend to split off and become its own thing. For example, rock and roll -> rock -> metal.

>And the criterium itself is useful because, first, it eliminates harsh, abrasive sounds, and second, not many non-standard musical techniques receive mainstream recognition and acceptance. You can easily enumerate those that do.
Those things, again, change with time. Michael Jackson's sound would not be well-received by a mainstream audience in the 1930s and while perhaps not in pop music (yet), things like wobble beat are increasingly showing up in mainstream media.

>I believe it's pretty explicit.
It really isn't. It's merely the result of trying to be accessible to a mainstream audience. If the audience's tastes changes in that respect, so will pop music.

>That's why there's more to the definition. That's a pointless remark and it appears to me you typed it just to type anything at all.
I said it because I felt it to be the only criterium that had any merit, but that alone wasn't enough classify pop as a genre.

>Because they're what makes it unique?
You can have pop songs that only use acoustic instrumentation and non-pop songs that uses the foll smorgasbord of sound technology available. So where's the distinguishing factor?

>To describe bands like The Beatles, for starters.
Why would a band have to be limited to one genre?

>But you can call both Lady Gaga and The Beatles pop, so this analogy fails right here.
You're missing the point. If "pop" were a term that's in the same class as "reggae" and "ska", then it would it be impossible for The Beatles and Lady Gaga to both be "pop". This is not the case, ergo "pop" does not exist in the same class.

>> No.11764976

>>11711459
>1440p

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>>11762658
fakedenpa is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>> No.11765038

>>11764896
>You're missing the point. If "pop" were a term that's in the same class as "reggae" and "ska", then it would it be impossible for The Beatles and Lady Gaga to both be "pop". This is not the case, ergo "pop" does not exist in the same class.
Not him but, is "Pop" an umbrella term then? Same as denpa song.
Denpa song is not really a genre but a way of describing a specific kind of song, that song could be also pop and of any musical genre.

>> No.11765074

>>11765038
That's pretty much what I'm trying to say. It's not a genre, but a looser type of category.

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Settle down, tykes

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>>11765090

>> No.11765171

>>11765038
>>11765074
So what we're really arguing about is semantics of the term "genre"?

Well, in that case, let me just say one thing. If rock and jazz and electronic music are musical genres, then so is pop. And if you think they aren't, we have a very different understanding of what the term describes. I won't insist mine is correct, since it's pointless; the point should be to agree on one version before trying to discuss what denpa is.

>> No.11765319

>>11765171
At no point did I suggest that pop doesn't exist, I merely questioned its classification as a genre, which kind of becomes an issue if you want to describe something as a subgenre of some form of pop.
Anyway, I'd say they are different. I'll try to create a mental image of how I see things: imagine a tree structure in which every node is a music genre (including every imaginable sub-sub-genre and combinations of genres) and those nodes are connected to each other in the way the genres are related to each other. So "rock" would be a child node of "rock and roll" and "rock and roll" would be a child node of "swing" and "jazz" etc. In reality things are often not clear cut enough to really put this in practice, but it's easy enough to imagine things this way. Things like rock and jazz (electronic music is a bit of a questionable case in that regard) could easily be nodes in that structure. They have very broad definitions, but that just means they are very high-level nodes with a lot of child nodes. Pop on the other hand, is fundamentally different and cannot be a node. The best you could do is put an overlay over the tree structure and mark certain areas that could be considered pop in certain circumstances.

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I leave this place for a month only to return and see that denpa has become serious fucking business

Holy shit guys stay golden

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>>11763703
>>11763980
>>11764155
>>11764315
>>11764346
>>11764629
>>11764896
>>11765038
>>11765074
>>11765090
>>11765131
>>11765171
>>11765319
>>11765401
>>>/mu/

>> No.11765499

>>11765478
That board doesn't even discuss music why are you redirecting people there

>> No.11765523

>>11765319
But it could. It'd diverge from rock in the '60s and continue through the decades gradually producing more and more electronically-oriented subgenres along the way.

Of course the tree structure is fundamentally flawed because of how many genres are born as fusions on the verges of existing styles, how many styles grow out to be much larger and diverse than their predecessors, and how many artists ignores genre divisions altogether. But if you disregard the other influence at every turn, you can draw pretty much a straight line between the original 60s pop to Lady Gaga's dance in song format.

>> No.11765628

>>11765401
I blame the trudenpa fags. Team dmp is obviously appreciated by a lot of people in Japan that actually support the denpa song/doujin scene and they can't accept it. Not to mention these threads started up because someone kept posting their videos on this board.

>> No.11765640

>>11765628
I pretty sure it's just one guy hating on team dmp to seem cool.

>> No.11765658

>>11765628
>Team dmp
>denpa

>> No.11765674

>>11765628
Denpa purist here .. i appreciate Team dmp but to me it will only ever be "loli-pop"never trudenpa

>> No.11765676

>>11765674
What a trudenpa?

>> No.11765680

>>11765676
True denpa is the same as denpa. ちいむdmp☆ is not denpa, their songs are not denpa - listen to the lyrics and the themes.

>> No.11765772

Post your favorite dempa songs.
These are mines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtTZ-KGYQRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd8v8eTdGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekUqkOsB4Y0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjfK4mT88O4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNSbgOMp7jQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2SmxKf3ljA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFcV0f8xS0E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U81h8bE8m1k

>> No.11765778
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11765778

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXPj-AueCX0

>> No.11765799

>>11765778
Is it just me or does this looks exactly like an eroge OP?

>> No.11765806

>>11765523
>Of course the tree structure is fundamentally flawed because of how many genres are born as fusions on the verges of existing styles, how many styles grow out to be much larger and diverse than their predecessors, and how many artists ignores genre divisions altogether.
Ideally, genre divisions should just be a method of cataloging what exists, not something an artist should aim for anyway, so I don't feel that is much of a problem. Any artist will have received influence from other artists at some point and even for music that exists between the verges of several subgenres, well, that music could exist "on" the line between them (if existent) or a nameless node could be made that takes those subgenres as parent nodes.

> But if you disregard the other influence at every turn, you can draw pretty much a straight line between the original 60s pop to Lady Gaga's dance in song format.
Certainly. But the question is whether pop created that line or whether it simply followed that line. I'd say it's the latter. The thing is, not every connection between these nodes is equal. Like I said earlier, there's a line between the "jazz" node and the "rock and roll" node and "ska" and "reggae", but there's also one between "rock" and "glam rock". But while glam rock is considered to be a form of rock, rock and roll is not considered a form of jazz and reggae is not considered a form of ska. In other words, certain nodes have boundaries between them that prevents child nodes from being considered of the same class as their parent nodes. And I feel that pop has over the decades gone through many of those boundaries, yet all of it is still called pop.

>> No.11765808

Denpa music is serious fucking business guys.

>> No.11765821

>>11765799
That's what it was going for, I'm pretty sure.

>> No.11765823

>>11765808
If you're going to do something you might as well do it seriously.

>> No.11765834

>>11765772
the first video is too cute

>> No.11765911

Denpa bot posted some tru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnhgAfnAV-U

>> No.11765923

>>11765911
I love it.

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11765935

This thread is fucking golden.

>>11765628
There has always been conflict between different positions regarding denpa song and denpa-kei in general, both here and in Japan. I don't think it has to do with the trudenpa guys.

Besides I don't think anyone was arguing about Team Dmp here, this argument started because someone said the 茶太+みらゐ album was Shibuya-kei and boom.

>>11765778
Rails + Denpa = I'm vomiting rainbows

>>11765772
Nice tracks, my favorite denpa songs change over time, I've been getting into older tracks lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoUvuoeWlCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZe1NKg4olE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN7wzuc3y9A

>> No.11766081

So if denpa isn't a genre, what genre is, say, MOSAIC.WAV's music?

>> No.11766084

>>11766081
fakedenpa

>> No.11766088

>>11766081
D-Dennpa

>> No.11766090

>>11766081
Akiba-pop

>> No.11766334

Takeshi posted a nice article about hard to find songs from the early 2000's.
http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-683.html

He also linked to a previous article which is also interesting, about areas rich in denpa songs but are hard to find or investigate.

>(Referring to the denpa bot song list) Well I tried my best and it covers most popular stuff.
>Obviously there are many songs I overlooked, and I think there are several which might some people go "This isn't a denpa song isn't it?"
>But, when you go to denpa song events and listen to what knowledgeable people say, there are so many songs you don't know it's amazing.
>I instinctively wonder at the extensive size of the denpa song realm.
>Old records are mostly lost, and there are so many doujin and indie CDs that they're just too hard to find.

He mentioned: Rhythm games, Old doujin music, 2003's eroge songs, Anime character songs, Chika idols, Foreign music and Parody songs.
http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-596.html

And finally, for people arguing about what's a denpa song, I think his article about diversity is a good read (translated):
http://pastebin.com/23ARC5Bb

>> No.11766351

Do you think that mmbk's children listen to the songs she sings or only to trudenpa?

>> No.11766408

>>11766351
I'd say that rather than music they most often listen to their mom fucking random guys next door.

>> No.11766445

>>11766334
By pirating, we're preserving denpa for future generations.

>> No.11766488

>>11765911
Nice.
That's Denkare, right? I didn't know they had other vocals beside Yousei Teikoku.

>> No.11766495

>>11765676
It's mostly a semi-joke, just like truNEET, but when used non-ironically I think it's just to refer to the more avant-garde-ish songs.

>> No.11766834

>>11765401
It has always been. See >>11708889

>> No.11766866

>>11765808
You haven't seen some old Japanese threads, holy shit it was some huge internet fight.

>>11765640
I don't think it's just one guy. While I usually shut up about it, I honestly came to dislike ちぃむdmp lately. I'm cool with people enjoying things, but I can understand him/them getting buttfrustrated over it since ちぃむdmp usually gets more attention than other songs that actually have some history and quirkiness/creativity behind them. But as long as people have fun, I don't mind.

>> No.11767415

Hey guys, I'm new on here.
I met MOSAIC.WAV twice, and mi~ko is so nice. I currently have no money to buy the new album, so I'm waiting for the rip too!
For people who've listened to it, is it better than 吟遊Planet☆AKIBA-POP ?

>> No.11767430

>>11767415
>I met MOSAIC.WAV twice, and mi~ko is so nice.
That sounds nice. Can you tell us details?

>> No.11767503

>>11767430
The first time was when they came to Paris in 2009, they signed my CD and we talked a little, they were very enthusiastic to be in a foreign country. And the live was great, there were some excited japanese fans too, that was fun.
And the other time was last year, in the summer comic market. I was surprised mi~ko remembered me ! I missed the signing session, so I ask them to sign my CD and so we went in a corner and we talked for 20 minutes, I took a photo with them, I talked with the manager... They were really nice. And now I can't wait to listen to that mysterious new album.

>> No.11767530

>>11767503
you fucked her?

>> No.11767534

>>11767503
That's nice. Sadly I never find recorded live performances of them, you're really lucky.

>> No.11767566

>>11767530
Huhu.
>>11767534
They released an awesome live DVD last year, 吟遊Planet☆MOSAIC.LIVE, I don't know if it's online but you should definitely watch it!!

>> No.11769482

リアル電波 -> Real Denpa
50 Song list :(Full list http://sound.jp/dempa_song/))
001 半角ロボ・エロドウガーオーバー!/進化
002 メイド御殿
003 醤油戦士キッコーマソ
004 NON-KILL
005 さいたまパヤパヤ
006 ぱんださんようちえん
007 猫鍋
008 恋のマジカル大分県
009 幻戦隊ミラージュセブン
010 鉄神闘機アイアンバトライガー
011 声切戦隊ヴォイスカッティンガー
012 夏はマシンガン
013 冬もマシンガン
014 名古屋はええよ!やっとかめ
015 愛國戰隊大日本
016 銃士戦隊フランスファイブ
017 君はホエホエ娘
018 ハートに16連射
019 宇宙の奥の宇宙まで
020 ちゃいなみらーずの歌
021 AM11 PM7の歌
022 トゥートゥー トゥマシェリー(SoramiMIX.ver)
023 アキバのテーマ
024 美少女従業員Star Ship(改)
025 ふぁなてぃく★れいるろおど
026 至高のミエンチェン
027 テトペッテンソン
028 しもべーず労働ロック
029 先行CHU!
030 ヘコみ節
031 みつめて☆新撰組
032 はいぱぁ☆やっちゅー!!MEGA・みなみん♪
033 聖コスプレ学園
034 カレーパンのうた
035 毬藻の歌
036 ぶるま~ずへようこそ
037 北へ
038 日本漢字党党歌
039 戦え!ワケルンジャー
040 中華王 先行者
041 コンピュータおばあちゃん
042 救世主
043 走れボケ老人
044 bit mania ~都会のジャングル、狩人少女Z~
045 Hatten ar din
046 バビブベBOY
047 たべちゃうぞ
048 インパク音頭
049 きのこの唄
050 ROLLING1000tOON

>> No.11769510

>>11767503
If this is all true i am so jealous reading this
i wish one day i can met them .. you made me sad anon

>> No.11769626

>>11767503
how mi~ko smells like?

>> No.11769822

>>11761136

MOSAIC called their music denpa before they called it 'Akiba-pop' Akiba-pop is just a tongue in cheek joke really, it's not to be taken seriously as a genre.

>Also, I get the feeling that lines like "Sweet radio waves arriving from the galaxy" are meant to be taken literally.

I'm guessing you don't know much about denpa-kei as a culture then. It's a reference to a theory about Tokyo and Osaka which has been around for a while.

>>11761786

>No, there are many denpa songs in anime and _especially_ eroge, where it took root. Without them I doubt doujin units dedicated to denpa songs would exist today.

It's not denpa BECAUSE it's doujin, but it's NOT shibuya-kei because it IS doujin. Get it right.

>Music is classified to simplify describing it, not to perpetuate tribalism.

Denpa music comes from denpa culture. It is defined by its 'tribalism'.

>>11761796
>I don't think the author must be conscious of this when composing it

Yes they must, because it is defined by the culture first and foremost. Else 'Take on Me' by A-ha would be denpa.

>but Neko Mimi Mode definitely goes into denpa brainwashing territory.

No it doesn't.

>I don't know what you mean by "right now"; Japanese otakus voted for Neko Mimi Modo back in *2005* as the best denpa song of the year

Otaku* no plural there.

And yes they are wrong. It's not a denpa track. Denpa was well established by 2005 and had long escaped Akiba so it's not surprising that the majority would get it wrong. 2ch had a denpa board long before Momoi or MOSAIC.WAV was on the scene

An english speaker wrote a good article about denpa-kei in his or her blog, I think it is on the wiki page. It's probably the best an english person has written about denpa culture so far.

>> No.11769968

>>11769822
>it's not to be taken seriously as a genre
Same as Denpa then?

>It's not denpa BECAUSE it's doujin, but it's NOT shibuya-kei because it IS doujin. Get it right.
Nobody is replying to your rant about Shibuya-kei, you just said that Denpa is doujin music when most of the time it's not; that was only a heads up.

>Denpa music comes from denpa culture.
And denpa culture didn't have to do with Akiba in the first place; the association of words was made later. People used to call crazy, addictive and/or chaotic joke bands Denpa-kei in the 90s, and their songs 電波曲.

>2ch
Neko Mimi Mode was included in the 笑える電波ソングガイドライン which was put together by 2ch.

>An english speaker wrote a good article about denpa-kei in his or her blog
If you're talking about Altair and Vega blog, he explicitly says in his article that Denpa song (電波ソング) doesn't have such a strict relation with Denpa-kei culture itself as you seem to think. I quote:

>Meanwhile, as the genre of the visual novel and eroge evolved throughout the 90s, the otaku subculture saw the development of a new, unique brand of J-pop. Although it’s been labeled differently over the years, today it is best known as denpa music.[6] Its strange conventions and lyrical content bring to mind the fanciful ideals of the denpa-kei (as well as the tendency for denpa songs to get stuck in your head, reminiscent of denpa waves). Denpa music today is a large part of general otaku culture, frequently making an appearance in both eroge and anime.
>Because it is distinct from the concept of denpa-kei, the subgenre of denpa music carries little of the stigma that is associated with denpa-kei.

If you're talking about another article I'd appreciate it if you can link to it.

>> No.11771821

>>11769968
>Same as Denpa then?

Says who? I don't exactly want to say 'Denpa is serious business' but yes it is a genre and Akiba-pop is not.

>you just said that Denpa is doujin music when most of the time it's not; that was only a heads up.

No I didn't, you're misunderstanding.

Someone said, 'Is this album denpa or shibuya-kei' it was a doujin album which means it cannot be Shibuya-kei for reasons I explained. It is much closer to Denpa than Shibuya-kei.

>And denpa culture didn't have to do with Akiba in the first place; the association of words was made later.

Denpa culture is tied evidently far more than you realize. Denpa and Akiba were tied before Akiba became flooded with anime. The first band to ever make a 'denpa' song (KING-SHOW) was fronted by Otsuki Kenji, a well known Akiba figure at the time and even today. So yes, it did.

>Neko Mimi Mode was included in the 笑える電波ソングガイドライン which was put together by 2ch

But not 2ch's denpa board, and 2ch was mainstream by 2005 anyway, you can thank Densha Otoko for that. In fact 2ch was at it's first peak in 2005.

I'm not sure now, it was written a few years ago. It was not completely correct, but as close as a westerner has been. It understood that denpa is not limited to music and that the music cannot exist without the movement and intention behind it. See: A-ha example.

>> No.11771870

Bump.

>> No.11771912

>>11771870
>[320 replies]
>bump

>> No.11771914

>>11771870
We're already past the bump limit

>> No.11771956

>>11771821
>It understood that denpa is not limited to music and that the music cannot exist without the movement and intention behind it.

Understood by whom? Anyway we're not getting anywhere; I would appreciate it if you can link us to sources backing it up instead. Japanese is fine.

>> No.11771990 [DELETED] 

>>11771821
>2ch's denpa board

What's their denpa board about? Looking at it looks like some random lounge board, and according to Wiki it's some kind of ambiguous meaning board for crazy people.

>> No.11771994

>>11771821
>2ch's denpa board
What's their denpa board about?
Looking at it looks like some random lounge board, and according to Wiki it's some kind of ambiguous-meaning board for crazy people.

>> No.11772506

>>11771912
I didn't notice.

>> No.11772900

Sh-Should we make a new thread?

>> No.11772926

>>11772900
someone make a denpa SONG thread pls

>> No.11772966

>>11772926
Here
>>11772963

>> No.11773618

>>11771956

Denpa music is not characterized by musical elements, it is characterized by denpa culture first and foremost. The same reason as to why other people in this thread consider many 'denpa' bands today to be just moe-pop, because there is an inherent difference between the two.

If you think denpa is just about nonsensical lyrics then as I said before, it would make A-ha - Take on Me denpa music (which it is not).

>> No.11774243

>>11773618
Yes you've already said that several times, and I'm asking you to post your sources so we can investigate further. If you can't, then everyone is going to assume that you're just making it up or that it's your own opinion.

>If you think denpa is just about nonsensical lyrics
I didn't say that, I just said that it's part of it; but the whole thing is a mix of various elements that ends up with a result well described by the japanese with the word キチガイ.

http://www.paradisearmy.com/doujin/pasok_denpa_song.htm
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/take-sub/20101015/1287154574
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/take-sub/20101024/1287938591
http://sciandeng.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-525.html

VNs like Cross Channel, Sayounara o Oshiete and Shizuku are described as Denpa even though they don't have anything to do with akiba or "denpa culture". They're all about duality and madness.

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