Kantai Collection -KanColle-

[Anonymous No.]

-Winter is Coming-
Previous Thread: >>11653211

English Wiki
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
Recent Updates
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

Must reads
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://pastebin.com/jvTQfLqb

Japanese Wikis
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others
Detailed Battle Mechanics (wikiwiki): http://goo dot gl/FUMcz
Kancolle Vita: http://www.kancolle-vita.com/
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/

Also, please be considerate with those screencaps. At least delete them when they're not relevant anymore.

To non-/jp/-regulars: /jp/ has its own standards for posting. It would be greatly appreciated if you could follow them. These include, but are not limited to discouraging the use of most emoticons and proper use of the quoting function (don't use it for bullet points: greentexting).

[Anonymous No.]

2nd Car. Division knows how to take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

待 た せ た な

[Anonymous No.]

Coastal defense ships and two more subs when

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661320
which subs would that be?

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>>11661327
I don't really care, a lot of people are asking for I-401 though.
I just want two more subs so I can have a full sub fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661320
>>11661335
How about 4 fleets full of them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarines_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Navy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661335
It's pretty much a given I-401 is gonna join the kanmusu fleet with the whole KancollexArpeggio event announced in addition to the Arpeggio ships being event bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>Always remember to scrap this bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661362
What's going on here?

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>>11661351
Subdaughters are the best, so I'd be absolutely fine with that.
I never even liked school swimsuits before

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>>11661367
He didn't troll enough responses in the previous thread so he's reposting it here.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to see who has pvped against you?
Also, what's the best way (outside of pvp) to exp gain? I only have up to 2-4 unlocked sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661409
Unlock 3-2.

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>>11661367
Nobody was replying to his previous posts here and on /a/ so he's trying to get more to masturbate to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661409
just bruteforce 2-4 down, 3-1 is a cakewalk with the same fleet then grind 3-2

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get Ooicchi? I've farmed her maps and crafted her recipes, but Kitakami is still just talking to herself and I'm getting kind of worried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661441
2-4-A

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>>11661418

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Can't believe how much the thread has died ever since event ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661441
Highest drop rate for me is 3-3.
Never found her in 2-3 or 2-4.
Got her in 3-3 in a day or so.

[Anonymous No.]

Gee, this looks familiar.

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>>11661462
Based China. Even the top left girl looks like Kenshin. Where do I sign up to sink the nip kanmusus with superior chink ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661469
That's Yamato though.

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>>11661472
It's like some bastardization of strike witches and kancolle in one picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661462
Holy crap, is this like a chink ripoff of Kancolle?

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>>11661476
It started in 2011, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Next on the remodel list is Hiei. And Yahagi.

IF I HAD ONE.

[Anonymous No.]

Even when getting 0 exp she still does her best.

Samidare Kai 2 when?

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>>11661409
The little blue arrow at your secretary screen will show who pvps you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661462
>>11661472
I would very much like to know the artist.

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>>11661490
if only I could read what it is, I've always wondered what that blue button was for though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661487
The author must be sad to see his idea being stolen by Kadokawa.

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>>11661493
I didn't even know getting 0 exp was possible

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>>11661492
http://www.donmai.us/posts?tags=zeco

the images themselves are from 2009.

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>>11661492
This guy.

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>>11661496
He at least deserves an offer to draw a few of the ship girls, but he's a chink so good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661496
There were plane girls and tank girls before that, not a real big stretch to move on to ships.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, mecha-musume was a thing before Kancolle? Say it ain't so!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661496
He should get an offer to draw a shipgirl at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661506
Well...

[Anonymous No.]

They gave us the gloves, now where is my hats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661518
Kiso has one

[Anonymous No.]

So.
Since the update, I can't connect through the flash projector.
I can connect through Firefox and Chrome just fine, but not the flash projector (or IE, which I understand to be essentially the same thing).
Every time I clear my cache it loads to a different point and stops, and keeps stopping at that point every subsequent try until I clear my cache again.
Am I just doomed to keep clearing my cache hoping for it to load fully if I want to use the flash projector?

[Anonymous No.]

>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22045222

2hu is now officially dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661522
Stop being so new and get your current API link.

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>>11661524
Inazuma to be the next boss in the next touhou game.

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>>11661524
Destroyers should be seen and not heard.

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>>11661532
Please don't bully her, she tries so hard to be a reliable teammate.

[Anonymous No.]

No one answered in the last thread, but I've been getting a white ship loading background on everything but my main room since the update. Any possible solution to this?

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>>11661528
Yeah, no. I've been doing that but nothing changes.

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>>11661534
Have you tried the standard runarounds like clearing your cache?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661539
How do I that using Flash Projector?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661534
have you tried restarting your computer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661543
Ask >>>/g/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661544
I did and it's still there.

>>11661545
No, they will make fun of me because I seek help just for animu gurls.

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>>11661548
Why do care about your reputation on an anonymous imageboard filled with deviants, losers and truNEETs?
No one will judge you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661543
Clear your IE cache.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661561
That helped. Thanks fellow teitoku.

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>>11661242
> They're most likely going to implement a trading function
Nope

[Anonymous No.]

So have any moderately newbie admirals gotten a credit card linked to your account yet?

I'm personally running into the errors that were reported earlier.

Just wondering if someone has managed to figure out a workaround. I must throw money at them for more docks.

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>>11661556
it's not the reputation it's more that they would rather laugh at him than help. When have you ever seen someone laugh at someone and help them at the same time?

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>>11661573

I really hope they don't.

It would not feel as satisfying as actually working for your Kanmusu.

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>>11661573
Yeah no, this is one of these games that would be completely ruined by a trade function.

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>>11661573
It'd be kinda cool if you could call in a support fleet from your friends or something for future maps. Trading sounds like a dumb move though.

How have you guys been handling sub + full fleet PvP? I have no fucking clue how to S it consistently. Using line ahead completely wrecks the enemy fleet, but killing the sub is impossible.

I also tried using diamond formation. The sub was oneshot, but damage for all the other ships just plummets. It doesn't help that your formation seems to affect night battle as well. Pic related.

I just can't seem to find a good balance.

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>>11661590
Lineahead with 2 sub killing machine.

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>>11661592
I tried line ahead with kitaooi earlier today. Both had 2 asw equips. They only dealt enough damage in 4 hits to get the sub to half health, and subs are nigh invincible in night battle. It might work if you get a green T-cross, but it's not nearly as consistent as I'd like.

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>>11661590
I tried one ship with full asw + rest normal fleet in double line formation, worked out alright.

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>>11661602
There is always double line which will bump your attack against sub an additional 15% compare to vertical.
Use yuubari with 2sonar+2depth charges. Sonar is actually very useful.

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>>11661573
If trading ever gets implemented in this game, imagine how many lvl1 admirals will start the game with a lvl60 CA/BB/CV or something with almost all holo equipments

>>11661590
I think it's way cooler if your friends can send support expeditions to help you with bosses you're having issues with

Yuubari and Isuzu equipped with full ASW, and full hard hitters on the other slots then line ahead

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>>11661616
trading removes all equip, all Kai upgrades, all modernization and resets level to 1. Only ships lvl 30 and above can be traded.

Alternative, only ships below lvl 5 can be traded with the same limitations as above.

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>>11661623

Even then, imagine how much better it feel to craft Suzuya or Kumano.

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>>11661623
It still feels kinda lame. Half the fun of the game is clearing bullshit maps. The other half is gaining rare ship daughters through your blood, sweat, and tears.

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>>11661623
Add this to the list labeled - "Shitty ideas that will never get implemented."

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>>11661626
>>11661623
Makes the game too easy.
I can trade for all my missing ships with all the multiple Yahagi, Kumano and Shoukaku that I have.

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>>11661623
Any sort of trading system encourages real world trading and that just adds hassle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661630
This

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>>11661623
Nope, it's still terrible as hell to have trading implemented in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661635

>Selling Yahagi, 10000円

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>>11661639
I don't even understand the hype surrounding Yahagi. She looks decent, but I'm not really that upset I didn't get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661630
This.
What they should do is to actually disable getting holo rarity ships from craft. There is no satisfaction in getting a rare ship from craft with a common blue background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661642
Why not just make it so that they get the background from crafts?

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>>11661645
So she's shiny, big deal.

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>>11661641
S(akura) holo.

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>>11661574
I'm in the same quandary - throwing money at my screen and yet they don't want it.

How else am I supposed to convert money into love if they don't even want it?

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>>11661646
>throwing money at my screen and yet they don't want it.

Well, of course they don't want it, because they can't get it when you're throwing it at your monitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661641
Gloves
Shiny
Flowy hairs
Sakure petals

Commoners will never understand her appeal.

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>>11661649
they dont want money from filthy, disgusting gaijin scum

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>>11661641
she's actually one of the better CLs out there worth levelling

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661655
Noshiro is just as good, excluding shiny Sakura petals

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661646
because you're a kuso gaijin

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>>11661661

I don't know man, the Sakura petals makes her pulling of the glove even sexier.

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>>11661661
This game is also based around collection in case you forgot

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>>11661648
Our hype, our yahagi, not yours.

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>>11661661
Noshiro looks like some slut bending to show off her tits. Besides her pose of holding a joystick is just inferior to Yahagi pose.

[Anonymous No.]

Yahagi > Noshiro > Agano

[Anonymous No.]

Agano sisters are illustrated by Konishi, right? I wonder if the sprites were done before Kongou sisters' Kai2 sprites.

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>>11661659
Because more gaijin exposure, means more likelihood it's going to get media coverage outside Japan and with the whole idea of WWII IJN ships personified as cute girls, a few heads will explode.

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>>11661692
My Little Anon Can't Be This Delusional

[Anonymous No.]

Look who got befriended.

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>>11661715
Only 16 inches?

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>>11661703
Considering how something as harmless as Japan beating the US in the Women's World Cup finals got a ton of people hatefully ranting about Pearl Harbor and WII, a chance exists.

We can't rule out the possibility of it becoming another Rapelay. Never underestimate the embedded racism and overzealous political correctness of the hwaito piggu.

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So is there any real change in drop rate between an S-rank and a perfect S? I haven't noticed one myself (anecdotal evidence, I know) and the japanese wikis don't /seem/ to think there is, but then wtf is the point of a perfect S when normal S gets you the XP bonus anyways? Is it just for that one weekly quest, or is there some minor rarity boost thing going on, or wut?

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>>11661718
>Only 16 inches?
Do you even naval history?

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>>11661721
What's a naval?

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>>11661724
30/30/30/30

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>>11661723

It's something that tastes like Melon.

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>>11661683
I thought the new Kongou's were done by Overdrive or something.

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>>11661720
perfect S gives your entire fleet +1 fatigue but otherwise nothing to drops or XP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661740
regular S gives the same +1 fatigue
perfect S is just eye candy, the game telling you that you achieved the most perfect victory possible

[Anonymous No.]

What if they introduce a ship breeding system?

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>>11661756
I'd breed a BB with an SS and then cross the result with a carrier.

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>>11661756
I would force breed Kaga with the 5th Carrier girls whether she likes it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661756
I would like to breed with my subdaughters.
I'd impregnate every one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661756

I'd probably wouldn't sortie anymore and just procreate with all the girls.

[Anonymous No.]

and now this thread is worse than /a/ could ever be

[Anonymous No.]

So /jp/, anyone had any good luck recently? After RNG fucked me in E4, i mustve gained a billion points with whatever deity that exists. 2 days ago, first run of E6 was a zuihou. Yesterday crafted nagato and kumano back to back and i got Mutsu 3 minutes ago.
Atleast kadokawa made it up to me somehow.

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>>11661781
who cares about your shitty opinion?

[Anonymous No.]

Haruna is so pretty

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>>11661781
Well maybe you should go back to /a/ then? The quality of threads here would improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661781

you're surprised?

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>>11661788
>>11661793
Faggots like you are ultimate cancer.

>>11661795
No. I always knew /jp/ had the potential to out-scum /a/. Goes with the very nature of the board.

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>>11661799
No, faggots like you with their meta "huur this thread is worse than /a/" shit are way more cancerous.

[Anonymous No.]

You talk about gameplay, people complain about it not being interesting. You ask questions, people tell you to fuck off and read the wiki. You talk about waifu, people tell you to gb2/a/.

Get off your fucking high horse. It's a thread about a browser game with shitty gameplay and cute girl art. It's about as bottom barrel as it gets.

[Anonymous No.]

Shiratsuyu's new cart art can't be viewed yet in the album, right?

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>>11661787
Below 50 runs total for Agano, Zuihou, Yahagi, and Kumano. Also got Hatsukaze and Naganami without looking specifically.

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>>11661801
Still leagues better than "I'd fuck my girls all day"

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>>11661802
People like that faggot will not understand the fact that there's nothing to discuss otherwise.

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>>11661806
Are you telling me you wouldn't passionately stroke your Kanmusu's hair?

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>>11661812
there is a big difference between "petting their hair" and "fucking them all day"

I've been thinking that I must be the only human in here that has actually seen another person in real life within the last 4 weeks. I take these reactions to "breeding system" as confirmation on that suspicion.

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>>11661814
I have been stuck inside of my house for the past few weeks because of a broken leg, yes.

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>>11661815
Broken limbs represent, son. Sitting here with a broken arm.

Daily walks and regular physiotherapist visits have kept me from going crazy, though, and kancolle has given me something else to focus on. IF I CAN'T BE HAPPY THEN I'LL MAKE SURE MY GIRLS ARE.

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>>11661814
You do realize you are in /jp/ right?
It is for truNEET only. Normals like you need not apply. Besides you have no right for moral high ground when the game actively encourage people to play 6+ hours straight to clear the event maps.

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>>11661616
>I think it's way cooler if your friends can send support expeditions to help you with bosses you're having issues with

I was thinking the same thing.
And not just some random map support, event support.Making it an ultimate trial of friendship and such.

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>>11661829
Think, you get to walk. For the first few weeks, I was too scared to really get out of my house, especially thanks to the fact I have stairs upon stairs.
I've gotten to the weight bearing stage now though so I've been hobbling around without my crutches and it feels good.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else also heading to this upcoming fuyucomi? I can't prepare my wallet enough for all the Kancolle goods.

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>>11661851
I realize you have it worse than me, just thought it was interesting that someone else was using this as a bit of an escape from the whole "oh god my body doesn't work" thing. I sincerely hope you heal up rapidly, I'm starting to get to that stage myself as well.

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>>11661862
>>11661851
>>11661829
Well shit, now we're talking about muh injuries and how kancolle is therapy. You happy now, asshat?

[Anonymous No.]

Successful crafts when

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one noticing something wrong with subs? I used to run 2-3 without issues, now my subs has 15 additional level and they often get shat on on the first battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661899
No. They're the same as ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661899
Did you have too much luck in the event? it's time to pay it back to RNG-sama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661899
I find it strange also, I could usually grind 3-2-A without subs and take scratch damage or no damage most of the runs.

Now when I do it the enemies seem to hit for at least 3 damage and almost never misses anymore.

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>>11661933
>>11661899
Nothing wrong with subs.
They just get raped by T-cross advantage

[Anonymous No.]

>>11661946
I find it strange that even when I only get parallel and head-on engagements almost all the time they still deal 3 damage, which is the same damage they deal when T-cross advantage

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>>11661303
The artist clearly doesn't know mahjong. Souryuu seems to have more than 13 tiles in hand, discard pile has 8 tiles in a row, rather than standard 6 per row, and the live wall isn't even drawn. 0/10 wouldn't put as Tenhou background.

[Anonymous No.]

FINALLY got a fucking Kitakami. Time to let loose the... torpedoes of... war.

Yeah I'll just see myself out.

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>>11661462
>>11661475
>>11661476
>>11661487
>>11661492
>>11661504

Here's something good for you guys.
http://mil.homeip.net/index.php?FrontPage
http://mil.homeip.net/bbs/index.php?page=120
http://mil.homeip.net/oekaki/
http://www.ikaros.jp/mcaxis/

It's actually kind of weird reading vol 30 of MC Axis since it's about the Battle of Midway but no Kancolle illustrators or designs.

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[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I have too much ammo.I want to get down below the resource cap.What is the most efficient way?

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>>11661899
Yesterday I did about 40 runs on 2-3 with 3 subs. Reached the boss in 14 of those tries, had to retreat only once because Goya got shot to 1HP by a T-Crossed elite. I still need to do something about my ammo, though. Fuel and steel are 2x and 3x bigger than it and running expeditions nonstop isn't working for now.

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>>11662363
Sortie KTKM, Yuubari.
Craft stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662363
Begin crafting 46cm, turbines and shells.

[Anonymous No.]

For people farming the 3-2 boss node do you guys use double line or horizontal for the first node?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662391
>KTKM
I said efficiently.
>Yuubari
Don't have it.
>Craft stuff
Yeah, lets craft 100 sonar.

>>11662394
>46cm
Well, of course I went for that initially.But the problem that I get lots of nothing.Would you happen to have a specific recipe and a flagship that outperforms the recipes at the wiki?

>>11662390
For your knowledge, I did 2-3-5 non-stop during the event.
Another tip:SS is not ammo efficient.It is fuel efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662400
>Would you happen to have a specific recipe and a flagship that outperforms the recipes at the wiki?
People have posted about some recipes using Haruna (or Kongou, I believe) in the comments section.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662400
I thought you had too much ammo, what, are you too pussy to dance with RNG-sama with 100 crafts of 100/300/250/10?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662400
Why not try 100/251 or 260/250/10?

[Anonymous No.]

I am trying to get Makigumo because she is the most moe of them all. I used to think Kongo tugged at my heartstrings but I was wrong and mislead. How could I have been so blind?

Where Makigumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662408
Read the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662408
I thought her voice didn't fit her character at first, but then I paid closer attention and saw that she's supposed to be like that. Anyway, she drops a lot on 2-3 F and G nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662404
No.

>>11662403
I couldn't find anything about that, but I found this kancolle-db.t k/eq uip/1009.

Though everything seems unreliable there.

>>11662406
I don't understand.
I ctrl+f'd "260" and it returned 0 results.

[Anonymous No.]

Talking about craft, is there a cheap recipe that gives holo radar and boiler? 6x46cm is enough right, doing the 300/250 recipe is expensive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662422
260 in case you're lazy inputting 251 and would just like click the +10 on the counter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662428
So far I've used 10/10/251/250. Got two Type 13 and one Type 33 radars on it. Though you'll frequently get machine guns instead. As for boilers, I used the 46cm recipe 100/251/250/10.

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>>11662428
wtf is a boiler

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662445
>A boiler is a closed vessel in which water or other fluid is heated. The fluid does not necessarily boil. (In North America the term "furnace" is normally used if the purpose is not actually to boil the fluid.) The heated or vaporized fluid exits the boiler for use in various processes or heating applications,[1][2] including central heating, boiler-based power generation, cooking, and sanitation.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662445
+6 engine.

+10 engine is a turbine.

[Spoiler] No wiki because it's not immediately obvious [/Spoiler]

[Spoiler]Read the wiki anyway[/Spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662449
Which part of the wiki am I supposed to check to know this stuff, the equipment page just says they're both turbines, both the +6 and +10 engine. Boiler search onlys send me to Yuubari's page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662445
>タービン
>缶

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question regarding the wiki?
Does the numbers in the parenthesis for at the 100 level?
Or the level of remodeling in this case 50?

Of course the second is for level100, I'm asking about the the earlier form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662457
you're supposed to learn to read moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662462
It's the max remodeling limit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662463
the process takes a while, you don't just magically learn it in one day and it doesn't help when the only thing you can turn to is google translate

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662466
Do you not browse wikiwki with rikaichan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662462
you can find out the max stats for a few stats(firepower, torp, AA, armor) for the first form before remodel because modernisation will tell you that it's max

[Anonymous No.]

Why?

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, do CAV not count as CA in 4-3?
I thought I could use Kumano and Suzuya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662482
You didn't clear the cache.

[Anonymous No.]

speaking of stats, some stats are exclusively tied to level up (non modernazied stats such as evasion, etc).

Now the catch is: does the stats reflect the current level of the ship, or are they only gained from level up?
If it is the former, you can actually remodel at level 99 and it wouldn't make a difference, but if it is the latter, you will miss stats as the stats cap were lower before remodel.

this is rather important for subs, as some people are reluctant to remodel them due to repair time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662482
I'm not sure about new ships, but generally UI changes and event transitions need a clean cache to function. Basically, clear the cache after new updates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662487
Based on level.
I remodeled all my sub at lvl70+

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662487
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ#What_is_Modernization_and_Remodelling.3F

[Anonymous No.]

ahaha oh wow.
to think that shimakaze's photo would be replaced with the kancolle ones.

>>11662487
see >>11482877

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662505
oh god why

[Anonymous No.]

http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22328205

What do you think /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662518
It's just Google displaying the most oft-clicked image result for a Shimakaze search.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662547
>http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22328205
it's blurry as fuck, hat's what I think

[Anonymous No.]

Flipping hell, the first CVs/CVLs in 1-4 are brutal and kick my ass. Wiki suggests getting CVs of my own, but are they really the only counter? I don't trust RNG-sama when it comes to crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys my Kako just slept while she was firing her 20.3 and hit my Akagi.

How should I punish her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662551
Pull her skirt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662554
cross formation + more AA guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662547
as interesting as people getting Yamato or <insert rare ship here> as their first ship.

i wonder why didn't he picked wo-class?
i would gladly trade the crane sisters for a wo-class carrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662554
Alien CV/CVLs are bullshit is what they are. Best you can do is the diamond-looking formation (strong vs planes), lots of AA, and yeah if you do have access to carriers then fighters are fantastic, but your best bet is either massiveAA+defense and kill them at night, since they can't attack at night, or just obliterate them during the day with heavy cruisers and suck up the repair costs.

Don't worry, once you get carriers you'll hate them even more for costing you gobs of bauxite!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662554
Just do 300/300/600/600 one time for any cvl/cv and get Akagi.
With Akagi, you can easily unlock 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662603
Just tried the mass AA tactic, not that effective due to shit equipment. I guess I'll try >>11662608 at the next daily reset and hope for the best.


Guess I'll try my

[Anonymous No.]

This isn't legit, is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662663
I wasn't a fan of her illustrator's style, but if she got her torpedo cruiser refit, then I'd use her for sure. 3 CLT for night battles, oh gods. The photoshopper could've at least used non-blurry "改二", though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662663
Fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662674
>>11662677
Thought as much, meh.

[Anonymous No.]

I just lost a 94 Ooi in 3-3. Just... Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662704
RIP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662704
how

poilte sage for blogshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662704
RIP in pieces

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662708
I decided to relax after the event and clear the normal maps that I haven't before. Seemingly Ooi got damaged to red in the pre-boss node but I was semi-afk and didn't even notice that. After I started the boss node I noticed that she was in red, I couldn't even watch that, I just F5'd and didn't find her in my fleet when I came back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662717
If you were by her side for the encounter, she would have survived.
She only sunk because when she looked behind her, she didn't see her beloved admiral and lost hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662717
sides:obliterated.
just roll with the punches i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662717
Come on, at least take a picture for us to laugh at.
Would be even more hilarious if you have the 53cm torpedo on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662745
Diagonal

[Anonymous No.]

so now that we can choose formation in drills, what's the best one to use subs ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662745
1st formation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662739
It's not like I can take a picture of something that's no longer there.
Here's the list of my highest level ships and the last screen of Ooi that I have, it's from yesterday after I've finally finished E7 and got the Yahagi drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662739
It's not like I can take a picture of something that's no longer there.
Here's the list of my highest level ships and the last screen of Ooi that I have, it's from yesterday after I've finally finished E7 and got the Yahagi drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662751
I meant not refreshing the game. How could you just just closed the game and not look at your precious ship last moment?
Shamefur dispray.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662717
>>11662722
for some reason, refreshing when the battle is ongoing results in huge morale penalty.

in a similar case as yours, i lost Maya and a type-3 ammo in the E-4 mindless run.

>>11662745
if you mean formation against subs, echelon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662757
I was thinking about when I'm the one using subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662754
My condolences. And you're the teitoku that came into the event with a few level 40s and managed to get everything event exclusive. I guess things balance out, huh.

Well it won't be hard to train another one since the torpedo monsters are always MVP and eat experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662765
Aye. Leveling another ship up to 90+ is still going to take a while and it'll be even harder to find a new Ooi to begin with I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of Ooi, is it worth replacing Jintsuu with her? Jintsuu always seem to get bombarded with crits...
All of my ships are under level 20.

[Anonymous No.]

im a pretty new admiral, but is there any reason not to use line ahead except against subs? im running 1BB/1CV/2CL(T)/2SS. its been working out really well for its preemptive torpedo strikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662840
Totally worth it. Ooi/Kitakami are pretty much the most useful ships in the game, they're usable and they're strong everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662842
yes, when you're trying to survive to get to the boss node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662840
Yes, Ooi and KTKM are definitely one of the stronger ships out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662842
There are two schools of thought. The first is that since the other formations (ie. not line ahead) raise your armor and/or evasion, they'll help you survive the enemy's attacks and get to the boss.

The other school of thought is to go line ahead whenever possible. With line ahead, you will hit the enemy a lot of the time (preemptive torpedo strikes, for instance, really suck when using ladder formation or line abreast.). And if you're killing them before they can fire, that's effectively reducing the amount of damage you take. Running a preemptive-heavy strike force (eg. 2CVs + kitaooi) will help out greatly.

In the end, it depends on the map, and on what you feel is working for you. I don't think there's a consensus on the most optimal method.

[Anonymous No.]

It's weird to not have any sub fleets on my pvp list.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been testing the 3-2-A (or is it 3-2-1) grind strategy, but my ships keep getting fatigue into orange after 1-2 times.

Am I doing something wrong? Doing a 1 flagship to level + 2 torpedo sisters and 3 subs, which means I usually land an S rank. Still it can't beat the fatigue rate that seems incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662880
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fatigue

The important parts:
MVP gives +10 morale per battle.
Flagship gets +3 morale per battle
S rank gives +2 morale
You get -15 morale after leaving a map.

So it's impossible to maintain fleet morale by doing a single node of 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662874
no idea, but with the new pvp formation coming out, I'm loving all these sub afkers in pvp suddenly although I used to curse them before this

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662874
Because they can't troll the fuck out of people with 4 sub fleets anymore since the update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662888

So I guess when people say they grind in 3-2 they mean they rotate fleets? Because it does not seem that amazingly fast when you have to wait several minutes between sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662901
obviously you rotate fleets.
You also usually use only 1 sub for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662901
If you really want to grind fast you rotate fleets, it's one of the better ones because there's pretty much only CLs and DDs at that node which usually don't even damage you and is resource efficient.

Also they die almost instantly when you have 2 CV/CVLs in your fleet but not necessary, if you don't mind taking some scratch damage 1 is enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662895
Most people ran sub fleets to farm resources in 2-3, not to sub troll.

>>11662901
3-2-1 is good for several reasons:
-Good drops
-Easy enemies (no enemy BB/CV)
-Good experience for leveling
-You can scumbag it with subs

There's two main methods to maximize 3-2-1 farm. The first is to use a sub in conjunction with the ships you need to level. The sub will take all the hits, allowing your fleet to stay out of the docks (sub repair time being negligible). The other way is to run a full-ish fleet. Kitaooi + a CV and maybe a BB will kill most ships on 3-2-1 with ease. The CV or kitaooi will get MVP every time, giving you some sustainability with regards to fatigue, but the other ships will need to be rotated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662906
fyi running sub fleets as opposed to running one sub in 2-3 is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662919
Why? It's an easy way to complete the daily quests for minimal cost. Everything from supply ships to world 2 boss clears can be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662924
Because cost inefficient and fatigue. Literally everything is worse compared to running a single sub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662933
>>11662919
Someone does something different from me, so they must be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662933
double sub pretty gives you a chance at A ranks on almost every node and is still pretty efficient, it's the 4 sub fleets only that's trolling

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662935
I suck at basic maths and playing a flash game, look at me I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662933
you're retarded
a single sub gets shot to hell in the first nodes and still suffers from fatigue because you'll most likely get D ranks. it also tanks your victory rate. the resource gain is not significant enough to do 4 runs and then stick every sub in the dock for 40+ minutes. you obviously have no effin clue what efficiency means you pleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662944
not that anon but I usually get roughly 2~4 successful runs with my I-19(the only sub I have) before I have to chuck her into the docks for about 40 minutes

Also my Iku is always sparkling, always, from getting all those MVPs, whether I get tactical victory of defeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662944
>single sub
>suffers from fatigue
It's like you've never tried it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662944
Single sub never gets fatigue because MVP bonus outweighs everything else.

However, completing dailies with a single sub is almost impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662951
>>11662950
-15 from the sortie
+13 from mvp+flag
-3 from D rank because most of the time your sub gets shot too much to get anything else
last I checked +13 does not outweight -18
and don't give me that bullshit about "hurrr my sub can go through 3 nodes before I take any damage"
Because that's complete bullshit. video proof or gtfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662944
Maybe you should stop being retarded and learn what turbines are. A single run for me can do anywhere between 5 to 10 runs and then I can just switch between my other 3 subs and continue with no downtime at all. Also there's no fatigue, in fact they're sparkling the whole time. Also this is how "tanked" my win rate is. Keep on being bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662957
do you even modernise armor and turbines, anon?

you obviously don't go through 3 nodes without taking any damage, but if you go through the first battle node taking scratch damage and all the other nodes only have 2 CLs at max

You just don't love your subdaughters, that's why they pull off that shit on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662957
Stop posting before you make yourself look even more retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662962
Obviously, any percentage lower than 99 is a terrible and disgusting sight to anons like that.

[Anonymous No.]

the samefag is strong with this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662962
No turbines can save you from T-advantage.
I call your 5 to 10 runs bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662957
Holy shit, you really can't into fucking maths at all.
Yes, you get -15 from a sortie, yet you get +26 just getting past two nodes. Stop trying kiddo, you just suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662983
I don't even know how often you can get T-advantages with the terrible LOS stats sending a single sub has

Either you're extremely lucky or extremely unlucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662991
He claims his subs gets decimated at the first node, which is why he can never progress and it always results in fatigued subs.

Which is complete bs, becaue all those fatigue should have been recovered while repairing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11662991
because its oh so efficient to go to that second node

I also love how all you stupid fucks assume you ALWAYS go NE. if you reload when going E you will automatically get fatigue and going E has more than a 50% chance to not net you anything even moderately significant

>>11662997
do you even high level ships? seen how long it takes for a lvl 60+ sub to repair from critical? 40-50 minutes
yeeeeah REAL efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663002
Wait, you are now claiming that it's not efficient to go beyond the first node? That's it, I'm done. This retard is beyond redemption.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663002
Wow. Just, wow. That's it, I'm done trying to convince this guy.

But before I do, yes I do high level ships, you scrub.

[Anonymous No.]

samefag being trolled by obvious troll
it's better than movies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663027
says the only samefag here

[Anonymous No.]

Tested 1 sub runs just now. you're all full of shit. this is total garbage. took 6 fucking damage with a maxed out I-8 lvl 64 and 2 turbines in the first node and got a D rank
next node 1 damage again and C rank.
next node 2 damage again and D rank
E->S->E. hit one shitty resource node

as expected of /jp/, only the shittiest ideas are accepted as "efficient"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663044
cool story bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663044
turbonerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663050
not as cool as your fantasy stories about doing 10 sub runs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663044
People have been doing solo sub runs since there were only two.

You get better fuel/ammo rate, but obviously your sortie win rate is going to go down the drain. The more subs you use, the more likely you are to win the sortie, but obviously you are doubling/tripling/quadrupling the consumption rate compared to the earned resource rate.

Some fleets have random asw enemies in them that can really hurt (boss node in particular has a ship in one particular formation that can one shot subs into orange or even red).

In any case, you can think of it this way. If you had run 4 subs, you would have quadrupled your resource consumption, only hit one resource node anyway, but would probably have gotten A ranks instead of a C and two D's.

If your aim is maximum resource efficiency then yes, solo sub runs are optimal. If your aim is to keep your sortie win count high / level subs / finish dailies, then use more subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663059
or just fucking reload when you go to the boss

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663059
Why are you still trying to convince these types of guys anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does the room/furniture preview on the atpages site not works? Am I doing something wrong or is it just broken?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663102
Use a Japanese proxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663110
Thank you. I was very curious because everything else worked fine except for that page and it was driving me mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663070
Why would I reload if I'm doing dailies?

[Anonymous No.]

"Im level 20 admiralty, huh? I might as well just start doing a piss shot and try to make some +6 turbines, bet its going to take me 3000 steel"
My first try got me a +10 steam turbine, i am going to pay dearly for this luck.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to craft Mikuma or is she drop only?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like this game just wants to RNG the fuck out of me by making me miss all my hits in pvp while enemy does crits every hit.

Outlevelling the shit out of the enemy too

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663146
Boss drop

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663151
God damn it, I actually want her for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

So what is Chitose's role exactly? She has a recon plane and gets torpedos later, but can also become a CL. Just another "hope to survive till night and blast everything" type of ship?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663044
I'm 3 runs down. Going for 4+ in the next post because image length.

And note, I'm doing this on my lvl 50 Hacchan, not lvl 97 Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663157
She's a CVL. And the best one at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663160
the one where Hacchan got damaged for 7 is D rank*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663162
Too bad about her looks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663168
What, Chitose and Chiyoda looks completely fine. Better than Shouhou at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663174
That said, other CVLs like Junyou are cuter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663174
An airplane slingshot is the most retarded looking thing ever. Almost as bad as airplane arrows, what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663174
Shouhou is beautiful compared to them. Archery is love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663178
Junyou is the ugliest CVL

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663174
Chiyoda has her chiyodas.

[Anonymous No.]

Chitose and Chiyoda have the biggest tits and thus they are the best.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not her fault if everyone is disappointed to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663187
I'm pretty sure those are on the level of Atago and Musashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663160
Well I ain't gonna bother with an image, got damaged to red in the last node of the 4th run. My point still stands, I did 4 runs with a low level sub that was just remodeled. If this was a high level fully upgraded sub, it would have easily been 5+ runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663198
RNG is RNG
you can fail 10 runs in a row on the first node and you can do 100 runs in a row without going red

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663193
Zuihou stop defending the crappy CVL and join my fleet already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663200
It's not so much of RNG when you constantly see the same results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663206
3 times going to the first node and hit into red. lvl 70 Imuya, 2 +10 turbines.
sure looks like the same results to me every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663205
Yeah she's gonna join you after you called her sister crappy

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best method to get Aoba? She's blocking my quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663213
By existing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663213
Put Akagi and Kaga in the same fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

Yep subs are nerfed.
I didn't want to accept but it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663223
Dafuq are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663200
RNG is affected by numbers too

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663223
What were you running, solo sub or several?

[Anonymous No.]

I just put in the highest value aircraft carrier listed on the wiki and got a 24 minute build time.
I sure hope I get Yukkikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663233
just instant construct it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663233
Hope you get lucky and by responding to you I get lucky too. I want a sub both the ship and bread so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663237
It's 24 minutes and I pissed all of my flamethrowers away during my last crafting spree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663234
Earlier this day, 3 for weeklies.
For a while for 3-2 tanking.

The performance drop is significant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663239
flamethrowers are super easy drops at 2-1 and 2-2 though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663236
Welp, got myself another Kako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663233
I'm pretty sure you can only get rare destroyers from that recipe. Grats on getting Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663236
>>11663237
>>11663242
>>11663272
It was Shiranui.
Disgusting, what a waste of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663274
Well, at least you got the best Kagerou (Hatsuyuki inclusive).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663277
That would be ok if I didn't already have two of her.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy. I wonder if he left this for PVP or was just trying to bruteforce 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663296
Ever consider the idea that maybe he doesn't care about what fleet others will fight when facing him in PVP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663296
Or he just doesn't give a shit about pvp and is just playing the game normally and trying to clear maps

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663306
>>11663310
That's the second option then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663313
Right. The possibility that he might not be "bruteforc[ing]" anything is not there at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663296
That was the standard way of getting through 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663331
I miss those 'what should I put for 2-4' whining. Now using subs seems to be the custom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663179
Many light aircraft carriers actually had flight catapults equipped, though. You know what has no basis in fucking anything? Paper planes. But we love them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663347
Screw the subs, bruteforce is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663360
>Paper planes
Kamikaze

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of equipping Sonars on my submarine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663371
Usually you use turbines and torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663374
I'm fully aware of that, I was just wondering what purpose equipping sonars could have, since it's possible. The only thing submarines do are shooting torpedoes and dodging, so a sonar feels out of place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663376
maybe it allows them to torpedo other subs? who knows

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Mutsuki so cute? Her everything makes my heart stop all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663393
Her uneven eyes bother me as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663376
Better accuracy during torpedo phase?

[Anonymous No.]

>lost my first daughter, Naka, yesterday
>I have gotten three more within 24 hours from drops and crafting

I'm happy to see that she's still well and alive, but is it too much to ask get Sendai for once?

[Anonymous No.]

i wish seaplane tenders had higher firepower stats so i could use them like torpedo ladies in night battles.

i like when Chitose says 見ぃつけた

[Anonymous No.]

Let's guess the 14th server's name. I bet it's one of Pacific islands, maybe Guam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663516
Senkaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663502
Yep! I think I got mine from a boss drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663502
I've gotten about 300 trillion of them from 2-2.

I'd actually welcome a Naka drop, just because she's fun to listen to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663502
Did you miss last event? I got a page full of her from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663562
Yeah, I got to the game on the event's last day. Kinda pissed that I never got a chance to get Iku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663566
That's harsh. I'll take my Iku out on a sortie just for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663566
You've got some horrible timing, if you're competent you could get it done on your second day, and S rank E-1 the third.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663149
other formation beside line ahead gives me horrible accuracy.
even against subs, i prefer line ahead while equipping IsuzuKitaOoi with depth charges.

>>11663516
Solomon islands

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663376
I've never actually tried it, going to experiment with it now. Always wonder why subs can't hit subs.

[Anonymous No.]

Just what is best to run in attempts to get ooi/KTKM? I've been doing 2-2 since it has two nodes with apparently decent chances at getting the drop.

KTKM was actually my third drop in the game, but i scrapped her in annoyance at getting another boring samefaced plain shipgirl, after accidentally choosing fubuki. I regret my rashness bitterly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663658
I didn't even get a choice, the game just gave my Fuyuki
Ah well, not like I used her for long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663658
You are an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

I still have my very first ship, my Samidare. She is dilligently running expeditions, Kai and maxed out. She is my precious daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663672
>Kai
>expeditions
There's something wrong in this sentence but I can't figure out what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663672
I don't pay special attention to mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663672

My first ship has been doing expeditions as well. Haven't maxed her out though, probably should do that sometime.

[Anonymous No.]

>shoukaku critted from green to red
RIP, all my fucking steel

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663676
I have 14 destroyers I keep around, all Kai and maxed out. DD are cheap for expeditions. why would I waste the small but piling up expedition exp on throwaway ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663688
Why did you even remodel a throwaway ship? Now it just uses up more resources on expeditions. It's just silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663691
You should really read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/a/97510159

Latest 4koma translations if you're bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663706
What for exactly? You're the one doing stupid shit here, not me, I don't see the point in reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663658
I got KTKM from 2-2, she seems pretty rare though. I don't think Ooi is totally confirmed to drop before 2-3 at least though, and from what I hear 2-4 is the first place you can get either/both in a reasonable timeframe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663721
As expected from Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663731
Not even that guy.

>Remodels usually come with the cost of higher fuel or ammo (or both) consumption, though there are exceptions such as first-remodel destroyers and I-168, which do not change in terms of consumption rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663736
She's so cute, I'm still upset I didn't get her earlier today. I'll keep trying though.

[Anonymous No.]

Actual planes for SSv BBv CAv when? It really sucks dick not being able to actually use planes on plane ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663764
They'll be out tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663764
Because they can't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663767
and by tomorrow you mean never

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663768
What's Seiran.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663775
Something I'll never see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663775
They're limited to floatplane like that or Zuiun. Forcing them to be usable to carry carrier-based planes like Reppu is like putting 46cm in CA or smaller ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663737
>Remodels usually come with the cost of higher fuel or ammo (or both) consumption
>usually
Educate yourself and stop using shitty wiki that spreads misinformation.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B4%CF%C1%A5%BA%C7%C2%E7%C3%CD

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663796
I don't see anything wrong with that sentence based on that wikiwiki link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663809
My mistake. Ignore whatever I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663796
'Usually' may be a tad inaccurate since there are a quite lot of destroyers but it isn't 'misinformation' like you're blowing it up to be. And if you want to see the changes in consumption http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%BB%F1%BA%E0#c9c747e4 is far cleaner to look at.

[Anonymous No.]

Samidare, please. No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663824
so -that- is how Hiei got her bandages

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663824

Even when she's accidentally hurting a comrade she's so fucking adorable while doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

Christ, im trying to cheese 2-4 with a level 36 iku. This must be what it felt like to run E-5. Im just going through praying the elite DDs dont hit me down to red with a single shot, which they do at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if the I-400 class submarines would come with 3 or 4 slots. That would make them true snipers of the sea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663856
Why not do it with a fleet of subs?
You can easily wipe out half of the enemy fleet with the preemptive torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663856
You have no right to complain when you're using sub tactic for that map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663861

If he's using Iku, he probably doesn't have any other sub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663861
The amount of virgin goats i'd have to sacrifice to be lucky enough to craft 3 subs in my first week of playing would bankrupt me. As it is, i've only got one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663870
Subs are common.
Yukikaze is the one that is hard to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663871
That's hard to summon futa, no, Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663870
I crafted both subs before I got Iku. and I got Iku a week after I started playing.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I laughed.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, finally got my new Kitakami to level 10 and got a Type-A. She is now taking MVP from level 25-30 battleships and carriers.

I have unleashed something not meant for this world, I fear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663880
and then Akagi ate all the tiles

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663875
Not the guy you're responding to, but - I got Iku within three days of starting and have never seen any other sub. Congratulations on getting lucky with the sub crafts but that isn't really reasonable to expect from everyone, especially given how low the sub chance from crafting is (2-3%?) and that they don't even drop til 2-3 at the earliest.

[Anonymous No.]

Items that aren't implemented yet. The compass item might be something that lets you reroll the compass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
why am I foreseeing that /all/ of those are cash only

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
>reroll the compass.

If it is, I can't wait for all the tears and wasted money when it still points in an undesirable direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
>reroll the compass
So basically the next event map is going to have a node where the compass only has a 1% chance of sending you to the boss node, so instead of buckets you have to save up compass rerolls?

...I could see that happening, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
them four leaf clovers

i hope they're not what i think they are for

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
I can see some of them are for that large construction feature, if that picture is even true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663907
Higher drop rates? 2 or 3 drops per node?

[Anonymous No.]

Hiryuu drop rate at 2-3 must be exceedingly low.
3 Makigumo and 0 Hiryuu.
Seems like I really gotta do 3-4 for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663909
They are true, all extracted from game's swf file, and the icons were there for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663907
>>11663910

maybe they just increase the luck stat, like turbines do for evasion

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663917
So that's the case. That's interesting, maybe either unimplemented or cancelled feature?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663918
Compass increase the LOS stat, oh wow it is fucking nothing. There is no way these sadist devs will actually allow you to reroll the compass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663931
The searchlight item looks like an LOS increasing item.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I keep getting Ooshio? I'm serious, my last 10 drops in a row (I've been keeping track) have all been Ooshio.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to take care of your heavy destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663951
>heavy destroyers
You what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663956
Sorry, MH4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663911
I've been running subs on 2-3 for almost 2 months now and no Hiryuu in sight. I'll probably accidentally craft her before I get her as a drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663893
How did you extract kancolle swf?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a goddamn specific composition for reaching 2-2 boss or something? Or is it purely luck?

I've been trying to do that Takao cruiser quest and I keep being sent everywhere but the goddamn boss node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664073
more than 2 CV(L)s increase the chance, IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

lottery tonight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664073
no, but if you're superstitious there's some that say LOS affects how often you get to the boss node for whatever reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664086
Go read their twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664086
Players who already play dont care, and dont check the twitter for that specifically. The people who do dont want competition.

[Anonymous No.]

Just how much f5ing is too much? Im fucking sick of getting sent NE in 3-1, and then getting my ass blasted all for naught.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664110

It only takes one to start a forest fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664110
And now i went the right direction, with my sub barely surviving the battle, and then i get sent away from boss afsdfawefaw

[Anonymous No.]

Kitakami is cuter than I was expecting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664253

Her resupply line is adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664253
Her easygoing attitude is endearing. Her first remodel intro lines is great too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664253
she's like that one close friend you have and will see you as a potential lover

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664328
I don't have any friends.
Are there any KTKM dakis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664253
A lot of ships are. I greatly dislike eyepatches but Kiso's personality more than makes up for it.

I'm glad I had her as my first CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664339
So you don't like Tenryuu? Ah, that's a shame

[Anonymous No.]

I would like Tenryuu more if her stats weren't so shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664341
Not particularly, but all shipdaughters are precious.

>>11664342
She's still the best at what she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664344
fucking Tatsuta? hell yeah

[Anonymous No.]

Are there official dakis yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664373

You can always learn to draw and make one for yourself.

Imagine all the possibilities and poses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664386
I'm assuming he wants official ones since he can give money to the devs for a physical good, rather than digital items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664386
I am extremely shit at drawing though. I've got a whole list of girls I'd do if I could draw though.
>>11664387
I'd take any high quality Daki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664373
Yes, at least for Shimakaze and Yukikaze. I picked up the Shimakaze version while I was visiting Tokyo a few months ago, but now I regret not getting both.

http://seventhstyle.com/2013/08/16/shimakaze-dakimakura-are-selling-out/

[Anonymous No.]

Kongou dakura please.
and a Hiei one. so I can put them together and imagine they're fucking next to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh wow, can't believe I got yubari after second 30/30/30/30 try

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664398
Looks more like it's better for hanging than hugging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664405
I would hug a Beaver all night long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664402
as long as it's not the Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=CGD2-64798

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664421

She doesn't even look like she wants to hug you.

0/10 wouldn't even consider putting her in my bed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664421
Lol so fucking lazy 0/10

[Anonymous No.]

Have ppl found a new magical recipe?
Tired of crafting shit already

[Anonymous No.]

So, anyone wonders who is the rightful ICHIBANkan with Shouhou and Zuihou?
Game says Shouhou while sites about the IRL ships says Zuihou.

http://ww2db.com/ship_spec.php?ship_id=804
http://www.combinedfleet.com/ships/zuiho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuih%C5%8D_class_aircraft_carrier

Zuihou superior must be ichiban!

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Zuihou and Shouhou called Shouhou-class in-game but historically, they're Zuihou-class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuih%C5%8D_class_aircraft_carrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664492

999/999/999/999

It got me Yahagi, try it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664500
Nah, I got her from 30/30/30/30 already

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22328205
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664497
You won't ruse me. Go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664497
The wikipedia article says that Shouhou got laid down, launched and commissioned first. The other two links are vague and incomplete.

Most nameships aren't much better statwise than their sisters (if at all).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664342
>>11664347
Please don't bully Tenryuu.
She's the first ship I created in tutorial. She's very precious to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664526
>She's the first ship I created in tutorial.

I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664344
Nope.
Yuubari does a better job in leading an expedition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664522
It's referred to as a Zuihou-class because though Shouhou was commissioned and launched earlier, it wasn't commissioned or launched as an aircraft carrier, and was only recommissioned into one in 1942, two years after Zuihou. It's likely that the IJN and the USN simply use different naming conventions for ship classes. It's not without precedent, as European and American naming conventions for ships can differ on rare occasion as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there are way to prioritize targets in torpedo phase? It really pisses me off when the whole fleet decides to blast at the 1HP destroyer instead of the flagship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664551
Sacrifice the largest calculator you own

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664551
You must sacrifice fourscore and ten virgin goats to Satan.

(no)

[Anonymous No.]

newer player here

is there a faster or more efficient way to level ships? i'm at 2-4 and all my ships are below level 20 and i dont know what im doing. i heard sending a sub through 2-3 with whatever other ships i wanna level but it doesnt seem to be making much of a difference when i have to repair her after every sortie.

maybe i should just pack 2 CVs and 4 BBs and bruteforce my way to world 3, does it have easier level grinding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
Grind 2-4-A; 2x sorties, wait 15minutes, repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
Back then 2CV4BB was the normal way of clearing 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
You're still gonna need lvl20+ on those CV/BBs to reliably bruteforce 2-4. I'm no professional, but the way I see it your best bet is probably leveling at 2-4-A (harder but 2x XP) or 2-2 (half the xp, but very easy to full clear with minimal cost unless you run into the Wo-class boss formation). You can try to sub cheese 2-4 (still works, but it's 100% luck even with multiple turbines - if you try this, sparkle the fuck up before each attempt), or if you're going to BB bruteforce it I'd highly recommend the kongou sisters+akagi/kaga so you can have a full Fast fleet for the bonus dodge, and again sparkling people, while time consuming, can help.

3-1 will be trivially easy if you can beat 2-4 and 3-2-A is god tier XP, so if you think you have shot it can be worth trying to push through, but if your fleet simply isn't strong enough there's no harm in training a bit first.

You're here forever, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
>pack 2 CVs and 4 BBs and bruteforce my way to world 3
This was what some people do before subs. You can cheese it with subs or slowly grind your way using PvP.

>>11664568
Some throw in CLT for good measure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
3-2 is the prime grinding spot.

But you can send your fleet to 2-4 and get decent experience out of it, and if your fleet does really well in the first two nodes you can just send them ahead and see if they pull through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664567
Not that guy, but I'm starting to hate 2-4. ZKMS is nowhere to be seen and I'm even close to having my DDs ready for 3-2. I just need the 6th DD to complete the formation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664568
Where's that level 1 2-4 clearing video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664564
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21832746

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664576
Ah, there you go. Thanks, haven't seen it for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664526
Reminds me, what are the first ships everyone here crafted?

Do they still have a place in your team, or did you already forget them alongside your starter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
Yuudachi. She's in my expedition fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
I think it was Nakachang da yo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
The first ship above my Samidare is Kikuzuki, and she's still going for expedition. Though I'm only 95% sure she's my second daughter, I remember having some misclick accident during my early days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664567
>>11664568
>>11664569
>>11664571
>>11664572
>>11664576
thanks i'll just do 2-4-A runs with DD/CL flagship + 2 CV + 3 BB then since it seems to be the most fatigue-efficient

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
I'm pretty sure I scrapped my 2nd ship for the quest, and modernized the 3rd&4th one to Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664602
It's worth noting that 2-4-A will NEVER have alien CV/CVLs, and if you crazy enough to braze a bunch of battleships neither do the three nodes it leads to, so you don't have to worry about AA at all - bring CVs with torps/dive bombers only, etc.

IF you have them, Kitakami and/or Ooi are FANTASTIC replacements for the BBs in grinding - they're a lot cheaper to fuel/ammo after each run, and leveled/type-A'd, they'll oneshot any enemy DD/CL/CA just fine.

Failing that though, yeah, BBs are your best shot. 46cm guns will help a lot, the enemy CAs have crazy range and occasionally go ahead of normal battleships, but 46cm extra long range trumps their bullshit handily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664608
That's sanaechan? Didn't know it can identify something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664574
Yeah, totally nowhere to be seen. She dropped a lot for me at 2-4-A(roughly 50 sorties grinding) and I feel kinda bad for other admirals if I started scrapping or using her as modernisation material

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
Isonami. She's primarily on expeditions. Inazuma is on reserve for when I need another high-level DD but she also goes on expeditions when needed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664609
oh yeah i got ooi recently, should i toss her in there at level 1 or get her a few levels before using her as a BB replacement?

also thanks for the CV/CVL advice i probably wouldnt have changed their equipment otherwise since i didnt notice 2-4 doesnt have any

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664612
I've been doing 2-4 for days already (100 sorties already minimum) and not a single drop of her. I even got Fuso twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664618
I have 5 fusos fortunately shes my favorite girl but sure wish i could get a shimakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
Isuzu. She's been sitting for a while in, maybe I should go and make her Kai 2 already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664619
>fusos fortunately shes my favorite girl
Such shit taste
wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664618
You have to believe more, and sacrifice something in exchange(jk)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664621
long black hair + red eyes + traditional clothes are my weakness

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664583
Tenryuu, but I scrapped her because the game kept throwing like 1000 Tenryuus and Tatsutas at me I got so pissed at all of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664617
>using her as a BB replacement?
They don't share the same role except during night battles where she's superior. BBs are unparalleled in dealing shelling damage during the day. You'll need Ooi remodelled and modernised before she can start sinking things with her torpedoes (which is her main use during the day).

[Anonymous No.]

Since they clearly state there's no cheat, sanaechan won't make me get a ban, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664621
You shut your whore mouth, Fuso is perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664623
She has a cute voice. She sounds depressing when she talks about the weather though, same as Shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664617
oh god i just encountered a CV at node N after equipping my CVs and BBs with no AA equipment i took so much damage

>>11664632
that just makes her cuter because I can relate

[Anonymous No.]

You can shred Fuso and Yamashitro once you've cleared the 2-3 Nishimura Fleet sortie quest, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664635
Unless you have Ise and Hyuga, there's still the CAV and BBV quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664631
what about yamashiro

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664631
Just look at the pathetic stats that your useless old hag has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664636
I feel sorry for anyone that doesn't know the pleasure of having Ise. Still waiting on my Hyuga though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664636
I have a soft spot for plain looking girls, so Ise class can stay even though I don't use them anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664640
please don't BBully

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664635
you still need to beat 4-2 with them. suzuya and kumano must be disgusted to be in the same fleet with the kuso sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664647
Please go back to masturbating over Haruna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664640
oh god I just got reminded of how terrible the luck on Musashi and Fusou is

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664649
Leave Haruna out of this!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664651
Mutsu has 3 luck until her remodel which gives her 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664638
Still needs ten levels until 99. That last event helped with fleet levels, though. My other BBs finally started catching up to Fuso and Yamashiro.

>>11664640
I got one 46cm from Musashi, and will get one more when she remodels.

Fuso crafted me 12 46cms, 7 rare turbines, two dozen dual purpose 15.5cms, half a dozen holo/S-holo radars and 5 type-3 rounds.

I know whom I am placing my trust on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664655
what is luck used for again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664631

I always feel really bad when Admirals have ships higher level than mine when we have the same T-level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664651
Normal luck is 10, so it's not that bad after remodelling. I don't see much use for it outside of cut-ins, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664658
Same as any other game. All kinds of small things that are hard to list out, but you easily feel the effects of when comparing 2 ships with high and low luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664665
makes me wish i had gotten nagato instead of mutsu as my first BB craft but i guess thats just my luck...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664665
It's kinda hard though to differentiate whether it's bad luck or just RNG hijink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664665
>>11664658
Cut-ins is pretty much an perceived effect of luck, I think like what >>11664662 says.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth it to always have Goya in my fleet? Other ships not getting hit is nice, but it seems like she sends me back mroe than anyone else these days. Should I just swap her out for another CV/CVL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664695
depends on what you're doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664711
Just grinding at this point I suppose. My highest level ship is a Haruna at 20, so I'm grinding so I can get past 2-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664715
If you're grinding 2-4-A the most damage you're gonna take is only scratch damage anyways, if you're nitpicky about that then keep the sub in your fleet, otherwise just replace her with any other ship you want to level(CV/CVL with torp bombers usually reduce the scratch damage you might take)

Also check this video out, if you have similar equipments and fleet(4BB 2CV) it doesn't hurt to just try clearing it now

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21832746

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664715
Do you really need to advance more in 2-4 for grinding purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664729
No, it's called 2-4-A grinding for a reason, you take on one node then retreat. You do it twice and your ships should be in orange, this is when you rotate your ships to continue grinding or just take 15 minute breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664728
>>11664729
Fair enough then, I'll just keep on doing 2-4-A with Goya in for the time being. I only have one good BB which is Haruna, and then like 4 Yamashiros because the game hates me I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to stroke Mogamin's hair.

[Anonymous No.]

I just wish that my girls would learn2target. Gets pretty old to take a bit of scratch damage every other run due to some random miss, and then every few runs some CL or CA magically crits a 60+ armor battleship/carrier for 70% of their hp. That shit's 150-200 steel per repair, man.

[Anonymous No.]

So, how's your warcrime-chan doing, fellow teitoku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664748
You ruined her

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone currently running 5-3? Need some advise on the boss node.

Apparently even last formation won't kill the elite submarine. Putting depth charge instead of turbine/radar and your ship won't even reach the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

They should provide another page for the repair dock. At this time, right now, 4 is not even enough for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664802
buckets

[Anonymous No.]

So how many Imuya are you guys saving?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664930
Too many to count.
I even lost 2imuya at 1-1 but she keeps coming back to me. I will never scrap or modernize her though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664930
12 Imuyas, all drop.
I believe I've scrapped two or three to save space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664938
Wish I had one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664946
She is very common.
You would be swimming in imuya sooner or later and wish something else actually drop instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664930
Only have 2. I wish she'd drop more for me, I've run out of submarines without opening attack for mvp run at 1-1.

[Anonymous No.]

is it worth keeping girls i have no intention of ever using? the collector/hoarder in me says dont scrap anything ever but im running out of ship slots i should probably scrap every ship except the top 6 of each class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665001
1000 yen for 10 extra ship slots.

You do love your shipdaughters, don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665001
Depends, I hated money and expand my docks because i find every ship endearing in their own way. The question would be if a ship you do not have received its kai2 remodel, would you be flipping out and grinding to get back her again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665007
only the cute ones

>>11665008
i have too many low-tier destroyers that'll probably be forgotten and never receive a kai2, and even if they do theyre so common it'd be easy to get them back

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a good recipe for zuikaku?
300/300/601/601 gave me 3 6hours timer but it is all shoukaku. I wonder if it just RNG or this recipe cannot produce zuikaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665091
my first aircraft carrier was zuikaku using standard 300/30/400/300

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665091
>recipe cannot produce zuikaku.
No. That's silly.

>300/300/601/601
That recipe is as good as it gets (check the database). I got my cranes from 300/300/600/600.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665091
I got mine using 300/300/600/600. I'm searching for Shoukaku now, so I'll probably give yours a try.

[Anonymous No.]

So far the only thing that's keeping me from doing.... stuff... from having Yuudachi as my flagship to get her k2 form is the cute giggle whenever you resupply her. Whoever came up with the shitty idea of all the -poi should receive some form of punishment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsCphkNV00
POI POI

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665108
Are you some kind of faggot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsCphkNV00

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665108
I bet you hate Naka-chan as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665110
>>11665111
That's terrible

>>11665131
I don't use Naka-chan so I can't comment on that

[Anonymous No.]

is there an average number of sorties i should expect before getting a gold or holo rarity drop? ive done 2-4 like 30 times and havent gotten shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665143
Try 100 S rank

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665145
will do
kind of surprising that i get like 20 mogamis and fusos, theyre more common than "common" rarity ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665147
Shimakaze drop rate at 2-4 is probably the highest. I never got another one after I left 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665155
havent gotten one yet
ive gotten 6 mogamis, 4 fusos, 3 shouhous, and a bunch of other useless girls

[Anonymous No.]

What do you others do about rare ship modernization?

I always worry that the new sprite might not have as nice damaged sprite art. At the same time I find it to be part of the charm of the game to discover the damaged sprites in the game and collect them, rather than to look it up ahead of time.

My current big worry is Zuikaku, which took the longest before I got her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665155
I was given the impression that drops were worse than crafting. Is that true? I'm dying trying to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665215
nope, drops are definitely better than crafting, the pool of ships to choose from that could appear from drops are less than crafting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665091
It all depends on luck. Even 300/300/600/600 recipe, RNG usually gives me shit CV/CVL that already have. But this past week, RNG felt kind enough to give me 2 Zuihou, 2 Zuikaku, Shoukaku and Kaga to complete my CV/CVL fleet

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665167
I think the term you are looking for is remodeling. And as far as damaged sprites are concerned, they are mostly all the same regardless of pre-kai or post-kai. Zuikaku and Zuihou only get changes to their clothing color. The seaplanes and other ships with Kai2's are obviously different though because the card itself changes to a new picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665167
What're you kidding? I love Zuikaku's and Zuihou's remodelled clothing colours

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665167
There's no penalty for late remodelling. You can collect sprites at your own pace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665215
Nope.
So far I got everything off drop except for Yukikaze. You only need crafting to kickstart your actual fleet for your first BB or CV. Either than that, fulfilling the daily crafting quota is good enough. No point spamming them.
A Shimakaze from crafting will not look as good as the one at >>11665155

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you easily and efficiently farm steel? I have every other resource but I spend so much steel on crafting or repairing battleships that its impossible to keep up with dailies alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665217
while usually true but crafting does allow admirals that don't have access to high level maps and some luck to craft rare ships. I got my Shimakaze on my 2nd day

[Anonymous No.]

For expedition 36, for the requirement AV, are we limited to just chitose and chiyoda or CVL or CV is acceptable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665249
3-2 sortie and refresh game after you hit the steel node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665249
Stop using so many battleships and crafting then, I'm swimming in steel and I don't even abuse the 3-2 steel node.

I don't encourage using the 3-2 steel node though

>>11665251
Crafting is pretty much only for newer admirals that haven't unlocked the map where the ships they want are at. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't try their luck at crafting if drops aren't helping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665263
I just assumed everyone was spamming crafting given what a bitch that fucking boss node at 2-4 was getting to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665263
i dont really craft anymore except like 1 250/30/300/30 attempt at a rare DD/SS per day and 30/30/30/30 for dailies, it's just that ive spent the past week grinding and that really hurts my steel reserves when i need to repair so often.

[Anonymous No.]

Does 3-2-1 drop shimakaze?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665275
Probably not

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665275
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_List

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665249
I do 4-2 a lot. It's fucking great but you'll need to have at least 2 DDs on your fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz56Blu_XhU

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665278
Except that he's asking specifically for 3-2-1, either way the english wiki seems wrong because both jap sources states Shimakaze only found in 3-2 by boss node.

Someone that could bother and isn't me should update that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665292
wikiwiki also lists Shimakaze for the node behind the steel-node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665313
Uhh, you sure you're not confusing Shimakaze with Suzukaze? I checked wikiwiki again but I still don't see it.

3-2-A DD drops are(sourced from wiki2):
初雪 深雪 叢雲 磯波 綾波 敷波 漣 潮 涼風 朝潮 大潮 満潮 荒潮 霰 霞 陽炎 不知火 黒潮

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665328
3-2-A is before the steel node, behind the steel node is 3-2-C.

[Anonymous No.]

They see your ice cream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665336
Still none at 3-2-C

3-2-C DD drops(sourced from wiki2):
初雪 深雪 叢雲 綾波 涼風 大潮 満潮 陽炎 不知火 黒潮

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665341
weird, it says 島風 初雪 深雪 磯波 朝潮 満潮 荒潮 霞 涼風 陽炎 不知火 黒潮 for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665346
huh, weird, holy shit it suddenly appeared when I refreshed. wtf just happened? wtf, just happened? what sorcery is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665349
Go to bed anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665352
Are you sure you just didn't edit that in just now? Whatever, I have no use for Shimakaze anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665338
Is this a crop or what? Image search gave me nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to help Junyou kick her addiction, she's a pretty ship that deserves better than that.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got a 50 minute craft time but the wiki doesn't have a 50 listed, just a 60 (1:00:00)
What takes 50 minutes to craft

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665436
let us know when you find out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665445
50 minutes, unless I can find a daily or run a node and get a torch.
>>11665441
Yeah, I'll keep you updated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665436

Yahagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665436
you'll know in 50 minutes or 5 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665436
Agano Class, jk idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665448

Wait, what? Find a torch? The fuck were you doing that you used them all up, before development mats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665448
just run a few runs of 2-1 and 2-2, you'd definitely get a torch there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665436
what recipe did you use anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665454
its pretty easy to run out of torches before you run out of development mats unless you craft a ton of items.

not that ive ever run out of either but i easily have twice as many dev mats

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665460
Rare destroyer, 270/30/330/130

[Anonymous No.]

All three wikis don't seem to have anything about 50 minute craft timings, I wonder what it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665467
It's just a bug. Enjoy your Nakachang.

[Anonymous No.]

False alarm everyone it was just Isuzu
Ah well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665473
Poor girl, she'll be scrapped soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

And now, with the construction of two Kumanos in a row, the only craftable ships I don't have are Nagato, Zuihou and Ooi.

I still have no idea how this happened, but then I got to level 50 without a Chitose and 70 without a Shiratsuyu, so I guess RNG works in mysterious ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665498
Speaking of Chitose, if I get one more Chitose drop I'm going to make a full fleet of Chitoses and level them for mini-subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665512

You can only put unique ships within single fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665512
since when can you use more than 1 of the same girl in a fleet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665516
>>11665517
Shh, shh, stop ruining my cheeto fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665521
There's no point in farming for minisubs anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665512
Why do you need to farm mini-subs? The only users are probably gonna be Chitose, Chiyoda, Kitakami and Ooi, 4 is more than enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665526
yeah seaplanes get 2 each at level 12 and subs get them automatically at level 10. since you get 2 from each seaplane you can just throw the extras on your torpedo cruisers because i dont think they stack right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665538
Two would be enough since I only play on Ooi and Kitakami.
But no, I want to slap them on my destroyers too for maximum torpedo slinging

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665551
You can't equip them on DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665554
Life ruined.
Why do I even play this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665542
They do stack but it's better to leave space for weapons that can combo.

[Anonymous No.]

on the topic of chitose/chiyoda is it worth it to upgrade them to light carriers or leave them as seaplane? or should i just get 2 of each and do both?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665567
They are the best light carriers in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665578
theyre also the best seaplanes in the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665590
That's not really saying much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665567
I like them as CVLs, besides if you upgrade them to k2 they finally smile and you get a few rocket launcher stock equipments as bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665567
>seaplane
Sure, if you have a boner for stacking zuiuns or mini-subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665590
Being the only seaplane carriers in the game, therefore they're the best, hell yeah logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665590
Can't be both beautiful and have great stats huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665594
>>11665605
>>11665607
Not that /a/non but I'd like you to pay attention to the last ranking rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665605
i do actually
there are lots of other decent CVLs with only slightly worse stats but only 2 other units in the game can use mini-subs

too bad leaving them as seaplanes gives them such terrible stats even mini-subs cant make up for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665605
>>11665619
Actually I used a Chiyoda in her seaplane form with a minisub, and two 15.5cm for a while - maxed of course. She makes a pretty good job in low level maps, like 3-2 grinding.
She can have about 100 torpedo stats and high hit rate, while having low consumption.

[Anonymous No.]

So, how are you guys doing on the rankings? 18 hours left, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
terrible, I'm stuck at 1000~1200 but maybe because I'm more focused on 3-2-A grinding than going to boss nodes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665702
What are the rankings people usually get rewards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
somewhere in the top 300

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
2500 or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
9k~ish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
i dont even know what rankings are, where would i check?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665717
In the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
30614
How to into rankings

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665717
Top left text beside the huge top left round button

Second row text on your left, click the first column that's blue in colour to see your range of ranks

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665700
In the top 430s, Last month I wasn't paying attention and got bumped down the top 500 and didn't get anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665702
Same here, I don't think I've had risen higher than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665702
>>11665709
>>11665732
>>11665742
Are you guys doing 2-3 oil run all day, err'day? Because that's the only way I could think to get high rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665767
doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

i just got ooi with ooi as my flagship this is silly out of the 50+ shipgirls i actually want i got the one gold that i already had...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665782
Enjoying your first day playing Kancolle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665767
Bzzt, 2-3 oil runs are not efficient if you're looking for admiral rank points

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665767
I do 2-3 runs for the dailies until I finish the boss daily which can take a while, or sometimes I don't finish it at all, then I do 3-2-A grinding, and a few runs here and there trying to clear 4-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665785
yup

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665779
>>11665786
Then, how? I haven't unlocked 5th area, I guess 5-1 or 5-2 boss is easy to handle?

[Anonymous No.]

Is Galactica a CV or a BB?

[Anonymous No.]

So when Ooi and Kitakami come useful? It seems that CA stacking works better in world 2, although they're costy to use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665833
Have you tried levelling them to 10, remodelling then modernising their torp stat and equipping midget subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665833

When they get lvl 10, maxed torp stat and minisubs. Even more so after second remodel at 50, due to extra armor/evasion and even more torpedo power. They can blap BBs off the field with opening salvo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665843
>They can blap BBs off the field with opening salvo.
Good luck getting them to actually target the BBs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665841
>>11665843
I don't understand these "minisubs". They're equipment, right? I can't for the life of me find the recipe on the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665848
Doesn't matter, having less enemies to deal with = more chance for your fleet to target that one hard to kill enemy. As long as they don't miss their opening torpedo salvos you have an advantage already. They also work really well in night battles unlike CV/CVLs

not same anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665848

I said you can, not that it happens often. With a CV in the fleet you hopefully have the small fries off the way, leaving larger prey open, so it's still good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665854
Midget subs don't really have a recipe in the wiki, anyways for midget subs I don't recommend bothering to craft it. Just find a Chitose/Chiyoda in the wild and level them to 12 and remodel them twice.

Their lvl12 remodel gives 2 midget subs, one for Ooi, one for KTKM, or you can level another one up for both Chitose and Chiyoda themselves if you want to keep them as AVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665862
Huh, I guess I'm lucky that I got both of them. Chitose is lvl 9 already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665867
They are just common

[Anonymous No.]

There's no way they didn't change something about subs.
I could grind 3-2-a for 3-4 rounds before my dodge sub went into yellow, now they usually get shot to orange within the first shelling round. This is after 60+ runs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666013
I've noticed this as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666013
this has been this way for 2+ weeks. the gold CL has depth charges / sonars and hits subs really hard. and it dodges like a beast

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666013
just tank the scratch damage maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666053
What.
This is round 1, and that's a lvl30 5star Imuya

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666060
remove SS, replace with CL(t)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666060

[Anonymous No.]

I find using SS as a dodgetank for 3-2-A grinding is pointless now that they're almost guaranteed to hit anyways(improved accuracy and damage somehow), just grind without SS and with 2CV/CVL and 1BB + 1 wildcard that'll help and 2 ships you want to grind

Alternatively I saw some guy replacing two CAs non-stop with new ones he keeps finding from grinding to slightly save on fuel/ammo consumption, plus they might tank some damage by chance and you can use them for modernisation or scrap later.

[Anonymous No.]

easiest 3-2 setup
flagship wildcard
CVL, CVL, BB, CLT, CLT
90% of the time you'll have flawless victory even without using a sub.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, really? I am having a great time cycling two subs on 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666086
why CVL over CV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666090
cheaper. using CV over CVL wont do any good except waste more resources. it's just DD and CLs.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone using BB/SS/CLT/CV, PVP is so hard now.
Sigh, I gotta bust out my own CLT even if they are lvl90s.

[Anonymous No.]

I run SS BB CVL + 3 ships to grind. 2-3 subs in rotation keeps that running as fast as fatigue recovers.

[Anonymous No.]

Not happening in my case. Still get perfect S every time, probably because I don't get enemy with flagship CL often. But even if I get that, it's the last enemy standing in front of my BB's 46cm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666093
Yeah, that's a pretty frustrating lineup to go up against nowadays. I usually just decide to bruteforce these type of fleets and settle for an A. If you're feeling lucky you can run like 6DD/CL fleets and hope they all survive to night battle then wreck shit, works sometimes for me

[Anonymous No.]

I run 1BB+1Ss+4ships that I want to level.
When you have a page of imuya, you dont have to worry about dock time. Imuya is only good at taking depth charges, not avoiding depth charges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666104
>Imuya is only good at taking depth charges, not avoiding depth charges.
I don't follow, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666096
And she misses.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello, fairly new to the game (admiral level is only 14), and I'm stil trying to find the best way to level up my ships. Do any of you have suggestions on the best way of doing this while saving most resources? I know PVP works, but what's the best way to get the most amount of experience in the least amount of time? Thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666109
Not that anon, but I tend to stack 3x 32gou radar. Although that has an unfortunate consequence of not one-shot sinking the flagship CL sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666106
Sorry, it took me like a few minutes to understand that. I'm such a tard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666115
how do you NOT oneshot the flag CL? even with a single 46cm cannon a BB should have 100+ firepower

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666113
spam 1-3 while you try to craft CAs/BBs, then you can rush to 2-3 and spam that instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666113
Wiki probably has all the answers to your questions and then some.

>>11666118
> NOT
Stop that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666115
Is it even possible for any BB with a 41cm or 46cm cannon to not one-shot any of the enemy in 3-2-A?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666113
Beat 2-4 as fast as possible and then only you try to save resources. Beating 2-4 open up tons of possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666122
NO. I won't.
you ELITIST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666132
please stop shitting up /jp/
can't you even read the OP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666123
Probably he's talking about missed attack, which, in my case, I can't say it gets more often, even without any radar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666123
Yeah it is. The FL CL has over 80 HP+armour. 80% or 60% damage modifier for parallel or red T-cross engagement + lower RNG roll for firepower modifier is less than 90 damage for Kongou class with 1 46cm turret.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666133
I can read the OP. and do not give a fuck. If you want to be some kind of stupid elitist and get angry about fully capitalized words instead of putting them between hyphen be my guest but I won't conform to some ridiculous standard I don't care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666143
So cool and edgy. Get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666143
> elitist
You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666143

Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666146
>>11666147
>>11666149
all that butthurt
keep it coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666141
There's like a one percent chance of all that happening since your LOS should be pretty damn good with 3x type 32 radars and CV/CVLs in your fleet

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666141
>over 80 HP
what.
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666141
> parallel
head-on*

>>11666156
A single slot of Saiun can prevent disadvantageous T-cross, but it doesn't feel like the high LOS stat decreases the chance of head-on engagement.

>>11666162
Read more carefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666162
Not that guy but I understood what he meant. Flagship CL has at least 50hp and 30 armor.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Enemy_vessel#Light_Cruisers

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people call 索敵 LOS anyway?

Wouldn't recon, scouting, or detection all make a lot more sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666165
I guess not, been through lots of head-ons with high LOS as well. Why not just switch one radar out for another gun?

>>11666171
Line of sight

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666060
This guy has sonar and depth charges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666171
More RPG-poi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666176
I know what it stands for, but it's not a correct translation. Radar, for instance, doesn't increase your line of sight in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666171
Yeah, I also feel that LOS is not the best choice, but I use it due to the ease of typing it.

>>11666176
2 guns and 2x 32gou radars is good, too, though it misses noticeably more. I guess that's a trade off for an almost-guaranteed one-shot sinking of that flagship CL.

[Anonymous No.]

Fourth T-Cross Disadvantage in a row on PVP. I just ragequit this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666181
If you want to you can type out recon, but LOS is just so much more easy to type, for me at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666185
Saiun

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666187
Can't build even one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666183
I don't know about you but I can't be arsed to switch my equipment for my BB and it's been stuck with 2 41cm and type 21 with sanshiki and I still find it really hard to miss. Probably just RNG trolling on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666187
That means bringing CV to PvP. I don't think the exp is worthed the bauxite cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666195
Same here.
Unless you sortie with borderline fatigue you barely miss anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666197
you can put guns on a cv, 5 other slot to level things up. I rather have a saiun than having disadvantages where i get even less exp

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666197
Tone or Chikuma then, I don't see the problem with bringing CVs to PvP because I run exped 6 pretty damn often for furniture boxes, and equip a healthy amount of green planes and AA equipment

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666195
The rate of miss with 2x 32gou is not high by any means, but it's just so damn annoying when you do miss, and the CL decides to crit hit one of your kanmusu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666197
I tried putting a 6 CV(L) fleet out filled with torps for the heck of it. 1300 buxite not so well spent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666204
Very well prepared for that one rare ocassion, but does it really change if you can't one shot the opponent and they still crit hit one of your shipdaughers to orange anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666210
Well, it's a trade-off one way or another.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess it is not happening with the time remaining.
I dont have 5-2 unlock and compass keep sending me to SE dead end node at 4-4 instead of boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666260
It could happen, you just have to dedicate one whole day without eat or sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666260
I just farm 2-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666266
All day, every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666278
>Those scores.

Damn, I could probably be top 20 on that server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666278
I'm on your server and I play all day, but I didn't know how to rank up until just recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666286
I just kept farming bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666288
Yeah, that's where I went wrong. I was only doing 3-2-A.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666266
4-4 boss is basically E2 tier with day battle first.
I could do it whole day everyday 24/7 if only it doesnt send me to the south end node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666293
4-2 with two DDs is 50% chance to get to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666301
They are both 50% isnt it?
4-4 can drop the naga*

[Anonymous No.]

So rank is how many boss kills you have?
Why not farm 1-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666320
1-1 isn't a boss

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666320
wiki
also you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666320
Just know that all battle nodes give you rank exp, boss nodes give more than normal ones and the more you progress the higher the exp.

The boss node rank exp gains non-linearly and increasing

[Anonymous No.]

Would be really nice if Kongou or Haruna would show up so I could finally have a fourth fleet - would make resource collection -so- much easier if I didn't have to pick two of the three expeditions I want to be spamming 24/7. At least 2-4-A is good xp/drops while I prep to break through the rest of 2-4/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666341
Haruna shows up a shitton at 3-2-A.

Strangely the only Kongou I have is the one I magically obtained from crafting, I never seem to get her from drops

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666341
same
4 each of hiei and kirishima and 0 kongou or haruna for 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

I just got my Yuudachi K2 and Ooi K2 at the same time, I felt like the time spent grinding wasn't for nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666348
I think I've gotten 1 Hiei, about 6-7 Kirishima, and 0 of the others.

Kongou is SUPPOSED to drop in 2-4-A but I've yet to see her. Finally got an Ooi though, to finish off the trollpedo sisters!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666354
They have very low drop rate at world2.
It is time for you to move on from being a 2-4babby and explore world3 and world4.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone even managed to get a furniture box from expedition #4? I've run this one about a dozen times but it never dropped even though the expition was a success ( I did get the bucket though ) Am I missing something or should I keep trying? The wiki doesn't tell anything about the droprate

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666358
I don't know, I never seen it drop before either but sometimes my furniture box just magically increase y'know. I dunno, it could just be me, maybe I just wasn't paying attention and got it from exped 6

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666357
I started a few days ago and don't (yet) have a fleet that can reliably stomp 2-4. Working on it, gotten most of the way through a few times, but until I get my girls up to par the best I can reliably do is the first two nodes of 2-4, or the first node if I want no-repair-needed XP.

>>11666358
Yeah, but - at least in my limited experience - 4 seems to have garbage droprates/rewards all around. Expedition 6 actually has a fairly decent box droprate and is the best expedition in the game for Bauxite, so might be wise to run that one instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666365
>>11666359
I'll try expedition 6, thanks guys.

[Anonymous No.]

Are seaplanes any useful to aircraft cruiser? They seem quite pointless AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666354
ive gotten like 4 ooi's
finally got ktkm after 30 sorties today
now i just need kongou + haruna + ise + hyuuga and i'll have every worthwhile ship besides the stupidly rare holos

[Anonymous No.]

I brought 4 slots of Type 21 air superiority fighters.
Still didn't get air superiority in 2-4.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666398
Model 21 is underwhelming, but even Reppuu wouldn't save you seeing as how you don't even have your CVs' refitted (indicated by the lack of Model 52).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666403
So I should just shitcan the idea of even trying to vie for superiority and just shovel on more bombers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666354
I've gotten about 30 of each Kongou ship between grinding on 3-3-A and subs vs 2-3 boss over the last month. Also got a bunch of other rare-ish ships from 3-3-A like 3 Mutsu and a bunch of carriers. S-rank the boss in 2-3 and you'll get some kind of battleship (usually Fuso/Yamashiro though) about 25% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666405
Level up your kanmusu, and give CVs some AA modernization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666412
I've got
Mutsu-Kai, level 38
Ise-Kai, level 39
Fusou, level 18
Kongou, level 17
Akagi, level 17
Junyou, level 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666413
no fucking wonder you can't beat 2-4 with that
lvl 30+ for everyone is recommended

[Anonymous No.]

Guys help, I can't beat 3-2 with my fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666413
Under-leveled CVs as I had guessed. Of course you're not gonna gain air superiority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666419
I've been using 2BB 4CA so far, so aside from my Mutsu and Ise, and my CA, my other ships are kind of lacking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666418
Forgot fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
>Look at me, I can brag hurrr durrr

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
Swap Yamashiro for Mutsu, worked for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
Nice photoshop there brah.

>>11666413
Just put 75% blue bombers and pray for south route. No CV in that route and it is all smooth sailing till boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
I would fuck that Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
>no Yahagi
2/10 wouldn't even bring to Ten-go

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666422
I'm giving you attention. ;^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665862
midget subs are quite common crafts. i got a bunch using the 46cm gun receipe

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666458
Why is your nose so pointy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666490
Because jew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666436
who are you quoting

>>11666490
i believe he's trying to show that he is jewish and wants to steal your shipgirls

[Anonymous No.]

Am I in for a good read?

>>11666434
Yamato NTR by white pigs.

[Anonymous No.]

This game need a quick fleet selection already.
I find myself wasting more time switching between 2-3, 3-2 and 4-4 farming fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666586
Or you could just buy more fleets

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666601
30 fleets please, so I can run /every/ expedition at the same time.
all that sparkling. I'll die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666605
i don't need 30 fleets. Even having a fifth fleet would've been enormously helpful in management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666665
But I want 30. or 20. At /least/ 10. 9 to run expeditions, 1 to grind.

[Anonymous No.]

2hu

[Anonymous No.]

Why are the devs so sadistic for the 3-2 pre-boss node with the bloody Ru-class, and a chance to go NE for a furniture box?

What equipment setup is best for 3-2? I'm rocking 2 main guns and an AA gun for almost all of them and torpedo cut-in for Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666706
Craft radars.
Replace AA with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666711
I've tried doing that but all I get are crappy guns, any other recipes I should try out? I do have one radar so that helped me on that purple node

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666711
Whoops, I meant turbines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666706
I think the only thing that might make a difference are turbines. As long as you reach the boss with most of your ships in good health, it should be an easy win.

[Anonymous No.]

I already miss E-5/
http://www42.atpages.jp/kairo/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
Got Yahagi on my 8th try
Do I win yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
2nd try Yahagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666740
>>11666743
27th try, I win because I went on more sorties

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
This game has awaken my inner autist once again. At 110 runs currently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
2nd try Yahagi from an A-rank

gg ez

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
>http://www42.atpages.jp/kairo/
21 tries and I gave up. It was reminding me of how depressing my attempts were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666740
6th try here

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to round out my CV collection. What's the best place to get Zuikaku and Hiryuu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666758
Crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666718
This really needed to give rankings for the preboss nodes so you can get that authentic feeling of two perfect S battles and then being sent northeast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666761
Anything but crafting. Fuck crafting. I'm done with crafting forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666763
you dont want yamato and musashi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666763
Crafting is fun though.
I force myself to only do the daily crafting quests, otherwise I know I'll go overboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666740
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666764
>>11666766
Nope. I'm done with crafting. Forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666769
Fuck me, i got it on first try as well. I bet i burnt my years worth of luck on a shitty flash imitation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666772
infinite levels of jelly

[Anonymous No.]

Any updated chart/table/infographic from futaba?

[Anonymous No.]

What's your favorite ship design/personality, /jp/?

I really like Hiei and Shigure

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
favorite ship design: I have one for each class but my absolute favorite is probably Mutsu
personality: Ooi

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
I like a lot of them, actually.
Mogami, Kitakami, Ooi, and a lot more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Haruna the Goddess

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Kaga

[Anonymous No.]

Where my fellow autists at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Design-wise, Samidare, runner-ups are Zuihou-kai, Verniy, and torpedo sisters, super form.
Personality-wise, I can't say which one is the best. Maybe KTKM as close friend, Samidare as daughter, and Houshou as wife.

[Anonymous No.]

I accidentally got rid of my Yuudachi during a modernization. Hold me /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666819
>not putting a love lock on your loved shipgirls
You had it coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666819
What a coincidence, I just got my Yuudachi to kai2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666819
I just scrapped a Yuudachi

[Anonymous No.]

My fetish is being really sweet to the plain girls like Mogami.
She'd wonder why I was paying so much attention to her and not a slut like Shimakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666820
>>11666823
>>11666827

I wanted to get mine to kai2 before I got rid of her. I'll have to find another one now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Fuso-class, Kumano.

>>11666828
I want to dress Mogami in girly outfits and watch her squirm with embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666828
>>11666834
Mogami's pretty cute to begin with. It's just that Shibafu's style really doesn't work well with her type. Compare her with, say, Kaga.

Also, that voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666839
Mogami's charm point is that she's very cute but isn't aware of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666847
Too bad I'm not aware of it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Kitaooi are pretty great, but I like all of my kanmusu.

[Anonymous No.]

That's kind of suggestive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666878
Since when isn't Shimakaze suggestive?

[Anonymous No.]

Who Hatsuyuki here?

[Anonymous No.]

Never really made this connection in my head. Nagato seems pretty pedestrian in size compared to Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

Would make a nice present.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666895
Sure does.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, the 4-4 boss node has 2pattern with elite sub after I cleared it. What do?
Possible to consistently S rank it with horizontal?

[Anonymous No.]

I want to cuddle with Mogamin and Mikuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666907
Try echelon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666911
What does Echelon do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666912
wiki
combat article

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666912
Halfway between vertical and horizontal line. Makes sense, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666895
C-Can I buy one of these? Not like I wanted to cuddle with it or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666918
Why not buy a Shimakaze cosplay set as well? You can finally be the little ship girl of your dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666920
Or find a little girl, dress her as ZKMS and then you dress up as Teitoku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666920
Is there one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666921
>Child Molester Arrested, Claims Japanese Militarist Video Game Forced Him to Kidnap

Who am I quoting? The news article with your picture that's going to be appearing in the paper, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>You will never be the Teitoku
I'm quoting your feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
My nigga. Shigure is my favorite favorite ship.
Other favorites include Zuikaku, Shoukaku, Zuihou, Haruna, and Maya. There actually many more, but these are the top of the list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666923
Yes, it exists. Nice fabric too. Search for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666962
I need to buy this for my cute boyfriend now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
Suzuya

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
ktkm-sama before k2 uniform

[Anonymous No.]

For any new teitoku who have been running into issues throwing money at your kanmusus, I just got one of my cards to work.

Their system doesn't seem to want to take Discover or Visa cards for whatever reason, but an American Express worked just fine.

Finally I can get full repair docks...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666991
Actually scratch that. Seems like the only cards allowed to be charged for points are Visa/Mastercard, neither which is being accepted by their stupid system.

Damn. Well, at least you can still get the 500 free points now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666991
Weird, I got my Visa credit card to work just fine. Bank called because supporting your ship daughters looks like suspicious activity though.

I know of some teitokus who can't get their Visa/MasterCard debit cards to work, however.

[Anonymous No.]

2-3 must have some sort of active quest sensor that detects whether you want to go to the supply ship node or boss node and chooses the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666988
Base KTKM was the best. DEM LEGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667011
Yeah, their site said that they had some maintenance on their credit card servers the week I got in, and a few others have reported having issues who joined about the same time I did.

Just my luck, they probably broke the servers for new foreign cards and haven't thought to fix it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure if I like the game's art more.

[Anonymous No.]

So how fast can you level a ship to 98?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667058
very very slowly

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667058
Botscript a single ship to do 1-1-1 non-stop, leave it on whenever you're not playing, watch your e-penis grow bigger, brag about your non-existent hard work.

Or actually forego eat, sleep and social relationships and grind all day every day and maybe hate your money while you're at it too, to speed up the process

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone done 5-3? It looks like E-4/E-5 in terms of rage-inducing cut-ins. Current idea for fleet comp is DD/BB/CA/CT/CT/DD at about lvl 70-80, dual attack setup. Any other advice or suggestions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666991
Last week I used my Visa card and it worked perfectly. Those docks are really useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667105
Repair docks are really the only thing I can justify spending money on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667097
I've been attempting 5-3 at a leisurely pace since the end of the event. The most success I've had was going with all DD fleet, which seems to have the highest rate of getting to the boss, but they all attack the submarine there. The only time where I sank the enemy flagship was using 3rd formation where Shigure crit the sub and the fleet was able to participate in night battle without blindly flinging depth charges at the sub in vain.

Currently, I'm content with just bringing whomever I want to level (Hiei at the moment) and taking runs that reach the boss as a bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666911
Really? Is echelon really better?
wikiwiki said it is 60% 75% as compare to 60% 100% for horizonal. Time to test it out.

[Anonymous No.]

Is doing 5-2 without 2CV+1CVL for compass checks actually viable? It looks like the chance of reaching boss otherwise is pretty slim, but I only have 1 CV leveled up at all.

Should I start leveling another CV, or is brute forcing it not as bad as it looks?

[Anonymous No.]

Is sub-farming 2-3 ruined for anyone else? I just take too much damage even with turbine

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667142
It seems like 1 CV + 1 CVL also has better chance than 0 or 1 CV fleet at getting to the boss. Just an anecdotal evidence, though.

[Anonymous No.]

The game is lagging really hard at the moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667154
Tawi Tawi server here. Looks fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667154
佐世保鎮守府 reporting in. All green here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667157
>>11667163
I'm on brunei. Switching shipdaughters take like a minute

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664938
What's the point of having so many?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667165
I'm on Brunei too. Shit's slow as fuck. It seems people are going for the last push.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666884
Sortied during 3-2 and E-2 runs. She's now lv54.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667166
1-1 shining
2-3 farming
3-2 grinding

A single sub is helpful in multiple situations. You can constantly rotate them as others repair. Imuya has the benefit of staying a sub after a remodel unlike the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667165
>>11667172
Brunei as well, no problem here

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667177
Is 2-3 working for you? How is your winrate there? I'm getting bad results in the last1.5-2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

Uhh, what? Is this legit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667190
> figwa
Would buy a dozen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667183
My 2-3 winrate with solo subs has never been good. At its worst my overall winrate tanked from 99% to 80% once I got my first sub. I still got Iku and Goya over level 60 running them solo.

Since I got Hachi and Imuya I've stuck to four subs to complete dailies and they've never failed to get at least a B. Whenever I get around to seriously preparing for an event again I'll run solo missions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667202
Yeah, I can see it happening with 4 subs. With two, one of them usually gets bombed on one of the first nodes to orange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667183
100% win rate. I am farming for hiryuu, I don't care about losing ammos.

[Anonymous No.]

Aside from expedition do you guys have a special way of farming bullets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667190
> not figwo
Admiral, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11664634
I thought Shigure is happier to see rain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667230
Most people run expedition 2 24/7 for buckets and end up getting more ammo than they can use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666794
... Houshou

Please do not bully

[Anonymous No.]

Too much ammo and iron, what do /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667269
Build 46s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667190

No Figwu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667269
... Oh right. Wow, I can't believe I completely forgotten about those mythical cannon

Also, if we use 46mm cannon, is there even any reason to use sanshiki for BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667276
What do you mean? You can have all the aa stats you want, but without a proper item to use that stat, like aa guns or sanshiki, you will have a tough time shooting any planes down.

AA guns have a high chance of procing anti air but do so-so damage, sanshiki have a less chance of procing but do massive damage.

Sanshiki also lowers your overall accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

What, looks like my PVP matches are moving at around 1.5x speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667283
46cm can shoot planes naturally for... some reason, fuck only knows why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667293
Already did my PvP matches for today, so cannot confirm.

[Anonymous No.]

Game, why you retardedly attack 1hp sub in pvp again and again until second round of attack because of BB being present

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667303
Strange, just fought another fleet with one sub, and my team stopped aiming it after it dropped to 1 hp, maybe a bug when subs are flagships

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667166
I just cant scrap Imuya. She was my first sub.
I have 3 running expedition while the rest of them just idle there until the next event where I need to use them to sparkle. I dont even use her to slave tank since my spare goyas perform much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667303
Because the sub wasn't dead yet.
This game has another few digits of hp internally.
Their failed patch once taught us about that.
Try image search "艦これ 演習 小数点".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667303
>>11667311
This was discussed before. Sometimes you will hit the ship for non-letal damage (it has 20 and you hit it for 19) leaving it with 1 HP. The other ships will target it till they do at least 1 more damage in the form of a "miss".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667318
>>11667319
Well, that explains why my ships still attack some of the enemy ships in pvp sometimes that are left with 1 hp after the opening torpedo salvos

[Anonymous No.]

In terms of subs, are there any maps they drop from? I've got a Goya, but the crafting system has been unkind to me in regards to getting Imuya. Or any ship I actually want, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667361
I've gotten 5 Imuyas from 3-3-A today, I heard she was common, but I was not ready for her to be this common

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667370
I've done about 200 runs of 3-3-A this week and I've gotten one. You're just lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667373
Or you're just unlucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667373
How many Mutsu did you get though?
Maybe you are too lucky for such a common drop.

[Anonymous No.]

Does formation affects airplane losses (and therefore bauxite consumption) during prelim airstrikes, or only air superiority counts there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667384
0 Mutsus, all those clears are S too.
Is that really that unlucky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667388
You're probably on the wrong map, post a screenshot of the one you're going to

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667388
Grind more.
I went to 3-3 to grind for Ooi but I found tons of Imuya and Mutsu. You are just unlucky.

[Anonymous No.]

Does it matter what kind of plane I put on first slot in a CV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667389
Yeah, no it definetely is 3-3.
>>11667392
I have a hard time accepting that statement, but I guess that's what it boils down to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667392
What do you do with extra Mutsu's? I feel like it's such a waste to make a modernization fodder out of a holo ship, but I only need one to level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667399
It is ok.
RNG balance out in the end. I have Mutsu luck at crafting. I didnt get anything from crafting after 2months of playing.

>>11667400
You tell me, I still dont have Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got my 8th Imuya and 3rd one from 4-1 boss nodes today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667400
You modernise them of course

[Anonymous No.]

What is with this fucking BB flagship? Why does she rekted me so hard? How can she 1shot Hiei in echelon formation against ring formation?

[Anonymous No.]

So for 南西諸島海域の制海権を握れ do you have to defeat boss nodes, as in get B or better, or sink everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667424
B and above

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't opened World 5, but looking up the map and the enemy list, is 5-2 much better grinding spot than 3-2 or 4-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667444
it's not very resource efficient compared to 3-2 but it works, if you really want to

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667423
Guess which one of your ships are not inside the ring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11666892
Had Kaga been completed as a battleship she would have been larger and more powerfully armed than Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate Kancolle Kongou but I love Arpeggio Kongou.

What do you guys even see in SHIT! Kongou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667574
She's a good useful idiot who's willing to do most things in promise for some attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667574
Because Arpeggio Kongou's design is kind of a turnoff for me

[Anonymous No.]

Kaga can go eat a bucket of shit for all I care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667578
But have you ever crafted stuff while she is your secretary?

>CONGRATULATIONS
Heh, nice engrish
>CONGRATULATIONS
Thank you Kongou, now if you excuse me
>CONGRATULATIONS
>CONGRATULATIONS
>CONGRATULATIONS
>CONGRATULATIONS

Enough is enough.

>>11667579
I disagree.
She looks the most elegant in that perfect dress.

How about Kancolle one then?She is a ship who has ship on her back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667574
Kancolle Kongou does everything with gusto. When you send her off to battle, you know that she won't stop tearing shit until she brings you the still-beating heart of that armored carrier princess. Arpeggio Kongou has all the drive and motivation of a rock until she decides to get serious.

Also I can't take Arpeggio as a whole seriously because of the Fog Fleet's staggering strategic ineptitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667586
The only problem I have with the voice lines is whenever you want to send your fleets for expedition, they use the same line as when you craft equipment/find resource

Why are you congratulating me before I even send a fleet out for expedition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667598
Yes.That is my point.
Are those get rearranged when you get her to the 2nd kai?

If so, I might reevalute my dislike towards her.

>>11667593
> When you send her off to battle, you know that she won't stop tearing shit until she brings you the still-beating heart of that armored carrier princess.

This is not how a flagship should be.

>Arpeggio Kongou has all the drive and motivation of a rock until she decides to get serious.

This is a proper flagship behaviour.

>Fog Fleet'
Lets not go in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667598
>>11667601
Her second kai changed this line to "Wow! Teitoku ni presents ne!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667609
Hmm, okay then.
I do intend to get all of the Kongou sisters to the level 80 anyways.

I must admit the submissiveness of her damaged sprite is excellent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667619
Her damaged sprite was much better before 2nd kai, though. It's one of those things that made me consider keeping her first kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667623
Fuck.
Well, I will whine about when I get her to 2nd kai then.

A quick question, I will level her to level 75 then remodel her twice.This is the correct way of doing it, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667633
No, wtf? That's terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667633
No, you remodel her once at 25 first, and then the second one at 75.

The remodel twice thing only works best for some ships such as Chitose and Chiyoda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667647
I hope you didn't think that I don't know when she gets her remodel.

I'm doing that for reserving resources and as much as I remember there were no drawbacks from late remodelling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667665
Nah, sorry if I sounds like that. There are none, but you're missing the extra stat that the remodel gives. I've almost never seen people keeping their BBs in vanilla mode after they get to the remodelling level. Not in my PVP, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667665
The fact that she gets much better stats, and that remodelling itself is a great alternative to repairing a ship completely without expending buckets s and removing fatigue should be enough of a reason to remodel early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667675
>>11667674
Guys I'm on 3-2-1.
I don't need BB kai stats.Like never.

> that remodelling itself is a great alternative to repairing a ship completely without expending buckets s and removing fatigue should be enough of a reason to remodel early.

For fatigue I rotate her with Haruna.
For repair, enemy CL's doesn't do much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667687
If your Kongo is at 75 and you are still stuck in 32A you must be doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667687
Well, whatever suits you, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667687
Why would you delay remodeling her once when you're going to remodel her again anyway? It's not you wont benefit from her first remodel anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

God, I love Yuudachi's second remodel so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667687
So you plan to 3-2-1 until all your Kongou sisters are 80? Have you channeled the inner autist in you?

People remodel Kongou sisters because of the 4th slot unlock also, and because they don't 3-2-1 and nothing else the whole time they play this game

[Anonymous No.]

I think I'm closing in on 500 sorties on 2-4-1 and still no shimakaze ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667707
Try the boss nodes in world 4, you can clear weeklies that way as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667707
You can always craft it

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an alternative composition for 5-3? I have been using 2-3 DDs + CAs/CAVs but they are not doing much damage to sink the boss.

DDs and CAs are equipped for double atks and the rest are radars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667693
You don't seem like you know what people use 3-2-A for. Where has he said that he's stuck trying to clear a map?

>>11667697
>>11667706
You don't need to remodel them for the 4th fleet slot or for 3-2 grinding so there's no real problem. It's not like he's imposing his own perfectly valid game-play choices on anyone (like some of you are doing).

[Anonymous No.]

Why the only CA who has 2nd Kai is so shit?
They could have give her at least one stat that excels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667803
I'm just saying there's no point in delaying the first remodel. Aside from not spending some of the resources you're going to spend later on anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667742
I heard 6 CVs is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667803
there are better grinding area after 32A

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667806
because that's not what second upgrades are about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667835
Just one stat man.
Even if it is just a placebo stat.Even Tone class is better than her.No insult implied to Tone class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667806
Her Kai-2 is actually a nice improvement. She becomes comparable to the stronger CAs whilst being more resource-efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667838
Tone class is better than most of the CAs what are you on about.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the 4BB2CV composition, stated in the wiki, really have a higher chance of reaching boss in 3-4?
I only have 3 leveled BBs but would consider leveling another one if it helps getting to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

All these talk is making me want to clear 3-4 and 4-2. Looking at the composition, they shouldn't be harder than event maps and for my lv90+ fleets right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667869
3-4 is a different kind of beast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667871
I'll probably prepare some lube for my anus when the time comes.

[Anonymous No.]

Got to clear out some ships since I'm nearing 100 locked ships. If only I could read the future so I won't get rid of a ship that gets a new design later.

Oh well, some ships certainly drop often enough that I would have no problems getting them back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667803
I wasn't talking about the 4th fleet slot, I'm well aware I can unlock that without remodel because my Kirishima's still lvl1. I was talking about the 4th equipment slot which you can only get after your first remodel for the Kongou class.

I just think there's no point in delaying the first remodel if you're aiming for the second remodel anyways, slight boost in stats that are not modernisable will probably pay off for that roughly 50 levels you're gonna grind.

Also yeah I probably shouldn't bash on anyone's style of playing the game, sorry 'bout that

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate 2-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667941
wait till you go to 3-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667914
All those Mutsuki and Fubuki class DDs. When you own one, you have them all.

[Anonymous No.]

Such dedication

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667965
akatsuki might get a kai2 so thats not so bad but the others...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667965
Holy sweet, my new idol. Except mine will probably only be the Akatsuki destroyers + Fubuki and Kagerou

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667973
So I was thinking this other day.

How about consecutive Mutsuki class remodels?
Their resource costs drop to the 10/10.

How awesome would that be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667977
That's pretty much submarines with even cheaper ammo costs, imagine how cheap your expeditions will now be

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667987
Right?


Also, guys I can't get past the first node of the 2-3.Level 58 Goya with 53cm torp, level 59 Iku with 61cm Quintuple torp and level 51 Imuya-Kai with 61cm Quintuple torp+engine(+10).

I don't know what is what anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667995
you arent supposed to actually use subs as your tryhard fleet

do 2CV4BB instead and breeze through it at level 10

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667995
Why not just equip them completely with turbines? They pretty much one-hit kill any enemy from the first node anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667995
Grow up and stop running subs only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668002
Aah, I didn't mean I'm stuck there, I need to kill 25+ transport ships.

>>11668003
But as of now they barely one shot transports.
I'll give it a try though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668002
>>11668004
Oh, I thought he was just doing fuel runs and not actually trying to complete it, I wonder if it's just me misinterpreting or the other way around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668007
Unremodelled subs won't regularly one-shot transports without torps I suppose, but why try to one-shot transports if you have issues with the first node?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668003
I don't believe in the placebo effect of turbines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668009
>>11668007
oh my mistake
how are you barely oneshotting transports with such high level subs?
if you wanna go that route use ooi and ktkm too so you can oneshot everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668017
Not him, but the battle formation (T-crossing, opposite directions, etc.) makes a big difference in whether or not you oneshot transports.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668017
His Goya and Iku aren't remodelled and they have pretty terrible max torp stat unless remodelled. At least that's what I assume when he only equips one item on them. Imuya has terrible torp stat even in remodelled form so...

[Anonymous No.]

Yamato craftable when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668035
Summer 2014, after you spend all your resources on another event ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667373
Same. On the other hand, I have three Goyas from 4-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667392
I got Mutsu before getting Imuya 50 runs later.

[Anonymous No.]

Bow before your new god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668007
The only problems I have on the first node with my 3 subs is when they have T-Cross Advantage. Otherwise, it's all miss and 1-2 damage.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got an Akebono.
Damn that artstyle jumps out at you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668166
Akebono has a special place in my heart.

The only ship who treats me as I deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668261
このドM野郎

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668261
After you've had her around for long enough, having Oboro and Sazanami around starts to seem weird because for a moment it sounds like Akebono's not calling you a shit for once.

She's the correct one, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

any tips for 3-4? Using 4BB 2CV, the repair costs after failed runs are killing me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668312
Don't fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668312
Can I ask you what did you use for 2-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668338
Not him but I jinxed it with solo sub

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668338
4BB 2CV. Just grind until remodels, it's pretty easy after that.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that the rankings have reset, is 2-2 the best place to grind for rank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668358
Each S-Boss ranking gives about 0.5 points. Do your math.

[Anonymous No.]

400/999/600/30 and get a CA. Life is suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668365
Is it time for the 999/999/999/999 game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668365
Anything over 200 bullets is retarded as it does jack shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668374
Kantai no aidoru, Naka-chan daiyou!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668381
I'll take Naka-chan over any CA slut.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got a Nagato from a craft.

Finally.

It kind of, somehow, eases my butthurt about bullshit they pulled with Yahagi during the event.

Time to level her all the way up. I think my heart is big enough for both her and Imuya.

[Anonymous No.]

You never met again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668400
Which recipe? Standard 400/30/600/30?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668400
Decided to give a try too, got a Suzuya instead. Thanks dude, haven't had her yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Hope you have a bear, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668413

400/100/600/30. I found that those "off" recipes actually work after I got most of my rare ship crafts from shit like 300/30/400/401 (Zuikaku in this case) 250/130/200/30 (2 Goyas) or 21/60/20/131 for planes (shitload of Reppuus and Ryuusei Kais)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668422
Yes, now they're complete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668400
>>11668419
It's bizarre how all event misfortune rebounds as crafting luck. I managed to get Zuikaku, Soryu and two Kumanos right after the event ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668312
So stop using such an expensive fleet? You definitely don't need 4 BB for that map.

I cleared it with 2 BB 1 CV 1 CVL 1 CLT 1 CA.

[Anonymous No.]

Is is actually worthwhile to use a fleet of 2 CV 2 SS 2 CLT just to one-shot everything before shelling phase or is that not viable at later stages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668442
have fun with all 4 torpedos hitting the same enemy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668443
good point i'll toss a BB in there too just to be safe

[Anonymous No.]

So what is /jp/ doing now ?

I'm currently leveling kinugasa for album completion, and crafting sonars and radar.
I'm also down under my resource cap to allow natural regen and take it easier on expedition farming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
3-2 grinding, I got Zuihou and Shoukaku from crafting yesterday and have a feeling that my luck got drained because of those crafts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
farming resources and buckets like crazy for the next event

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668425
I got a Kumano about half an hour ago with that exact recipe. I am now short of Mikuma, and the entire Nagato class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
running low on steel in an attempt to finish 2-4 so i can farm steel on world 3 so i can be prepared for the december event.

its kinda counter-productive because i went from 5k steel to 1.7k steel after like 20 2-4 runs and also lost like 20 buckets

[Anonymous No.]

Should i really remodel iku? Shes my only sub so far, and she serves good use as a damage sponge. That double repair time seems like a bastard. I rather her get crit and take a 30 minute repair time for 7 steel, than my carrier with its 6 hours and 220 steel repair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
Leveling Ise and trying to get Nagato. Not very interested in events until the coastal defense ships are in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668459
what the heck are coastal defense ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
I don't want to run 2-3 but I keep running low on fuel since leveling Musashi eats up a lot of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668461
why dont you want to run 2-3 itsa pretty easy map with that composition. repair/resupply costs too high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668455

Try 3-3-1 for Mutsu. Nagato is a bit tougher to crack. I've been running 3-2 again with my 50+ DDs. It's so much easier once I'm sure orange is safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668458
"I'm low on buckets!"

Said nobody ever. Go for the gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668462

Battleships that are not exactly seaworthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668464
I get send to the off routes often and my submarines consistently get shat on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668474
so... basically gigantic battleships that exist solely to tank damage and fire from a stationary position?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668448
Finished Yuudachi, Shigure, and Chitose, now if only I'm motivated enough for Hiei...

[Anonymous No.]

How rare is Yukikaze as a boss drop? or should I just pray I'll craft her eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668484
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_zcwkfu_E

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668470
I suppose i should then. But i'll wait until i get that 4th fleet for 24/7 bucket runs, the two other kongou sisters refuse to show up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668475
more like CL sized ships with less fuel tank, less power, more armor, with CA weapons and being able to shoot subs. and they'll be even more loli than current DDs.
I'm sure Google can provide you a better explanation though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668488
I already have Mogami, 2 guys are too much for my fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668462
Not always. Coastal defense ships also included small vessels that weren't built to operate on the open sea in addition to the obsolete WWI relics with fifty inches of armor plating (some of the Japanese armored and protected cruisers were still up and kicking by WWII, and I think they reclassified some of their disarmed battleships too).

The former are stated to be anti-submarine and expedition specialist that look even younger than the destroyers, but I'm hoping there will be gentle onee-san type girls among the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668492
Im not sure how to imagine that as a kanmasu. Inazuma in full body plate armor with a gun larger than she is.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh wow. Just got my two first BB drops in 2-2, BOTH Yamashiro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668499
Who'll be illustrator for them? Kantoku? Yabuki? It'll be Shibafu.

[Anonymous No.]

So what exactly do fleets do on expedition? Go to china and twist their arms until they give up resources? Possibly with a bit of war crimes along the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668504
Have fun with that. I scrapped mine since her constant moaning and sighing about onee san and her bad luck annoyed the ever living hell out of me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668508
Helping elders crossing road, take order from a shop nearby, telling story to children in one kindergarten. You know, stuffs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668500
Monitors were all about little girls sitting on guns larger than themselves. The concept as a whole was mostly abandoned by the end of WWII, and I don't think Japan really got in on the monitor business, but the whole concept was responsible for some of the most bizarre ship designs in naval history. Russian ironclad Novgorod was a battlesphere that spun around like a top whenever it tried to shoot or steer, Italian monitor Faà di Bruno was a destroyer-sized raft with a 38cm turret on it, and Lord Clive-class monitors were small light cruisers with two 46cms stuck on them.

>>11668507
I really like Shibafu's designs for the older girls, so he would be really welcome.

What I really want for Christmas is a minelayer, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668514
dont be mean to yama-chan shes cute

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good setup for a destroyer? I have to clear 3-2, so I need to prepare as best as I can

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668546
>not posting the gif

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668507
as long as its not bob

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668547

Specific set-up didn't really matter for me because boss node is easy as hell anyway.

I put damecons on my destroyers because I was getting frustrated of criticals at the pre-boss node. Used up 1 damecon to clear 3-2 when I went to boss node with 2 orange destroyers and 1 red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667995
>>11668003
Why do you guys put turbine on subs?
Double torpedo is only way to go. Do you guys even want to 1shot the BB at the boss node?

[Anonymous No.]

This is nice, i got two shimakazes in a row. Except i already have her and all i want is KTKM/Ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a specific combination needed for 4-3, I keep getting sent south west south west into the purple point

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668738
no, the chance is just very, very, very, very small and the compass is a total fucking huge ass bitch in that map

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got this window? I wonder how it looks in full size

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668738
You cannot bring destroyer, aviation cruiser or spt. 4-3 is basically 2CA+4

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668742
Check OP link for room manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668747
Tried that one, but I get a page load error when I try to change the room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668744
SPT? seaplane tender? you mean AVs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668742

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668763
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668738
4-3 wins the compass bullshit award. Even with the perfect composition it's still a bitch to get to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668769
2-4 and 3-4 would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668758
Yes. Seaplane tender or AV.
Dont bring them or CAV or more than 1destroyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668770
No not really, they don't even come close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668769
4-3 is not even comparable to 3-4.
You can either only go from FG or JFG
Then it is just 50/50 between the 2below.
1) G->Boss
2) G->purple node

3-4 is just full of shit with every node being random.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668751
VPN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668780
3-4 is basically 2-4. except you can cheese 2-4 with subs and 3-4 shits all over that with radioactive turds raining from the sky

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668770
2-4 3-4 are hard because of tough opponents (and a little bit of compass), while 4-3 difficulty is all about the compass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668780
It's not 50-50 and there are 3 outcomes from G
G->Boss
G->whirlpool
G->H (The other dead-end.)
I tried to farm for Mikuma and went 0/7 on that pre boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668811
Ah yes, I forgot about the H dead end.
So it is still 1/3, very good odd.
For 3-4, you not only need to survive compass trolling, you need to survive the flagship BB crit too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668820
We all know it's very rare for nodes to be equally likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668822
Some nodes are more equal than others.
- Kantai Collection, 2013

[Anonymous No.]

That gave me quite the scare, got a disconnection error right after my 40th 2-4 run that got KTKM. I would've gone apeshit if it somehow didnt register my KTKM get.

[Anonymous No.]

Best part of the day has come

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668887
you Kai a yuudachi every day? I'm jealous of your grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668887
Great, she's the only one left for me to upgrade. Already got Slutzu, Bep, Shigure, Ooi and KTKM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11667134
What formation do you use to sink the submarine?

[Anonymous No.]

Which ship did you use as your flagship while crafting sonars and depth charges?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957

The flagship of my heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668958
And how efficient were your flagship of your heart during crafting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
Iku

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
Isuzu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668958

Between her and Yuudachi Kai 2, plenty efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668962
>>11668964
>>11668966
I'm using 10/30/10/31 and its not going really well.
I started with Shimakaze-Kai then changed to Isuzu-Kai.

What recipe would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
ypaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668971
10/50/10/51

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
ﾊﾗｼｮｰ

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668975
5 shitty plane
1 shitty gun
4nothing

Thank you for trolling faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
kitakami
2penguin
1 12.7
1 type3 depth
10/50/10/10

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain to me why chitose/chiyodas last remodel give them gigantic breasts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668994
It seems they already had it, but were covering them with clothing and such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668991
Huurrr durr I can't get what I want from the 70% fail rate recipe, must be troll!

[Anonymous No.]

Getting kind of tired of bullshit from the alien girls. Even non-flagship Wos seem to have no trouble launching planes WHILE DEAD, enemy CA/CLs inconsistently go before 46cm-equipped BBs even during day battles (I know night battles are just top->bottom)... I don't know if it's just bugs or "features," but shit's annoying. Kinda makes me feel like I wasted time getting 46cm guns for my BBs when their attack range boost doesn't even seem to have any effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668992
>>11668991
>10ish tries must be statistically relevant !!
either poor bait or very poor bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668991
I'm sorry what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of these sonars and depth charges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668991
I have bad luck, it must be that troll's fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>11668957
Shimakaze.

Her ribbons looks like sonars, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669002
> launching planes WHILE DEAD
Never seen this, seems doubtful.

> enemy CA/CLs inconsistently go before 46cm-equipped BBs even during day battles
Day battle is 2 rounds if there's a BB present. First round is taking turns in range order, second round is taking turns top-down.

Do you really expect the game to let you attack 6 times before the enemy if you equip 6 46cm BBs or something? That would hardly be balanced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669002
If you actually observe and think, you'll notice that range affects the turn in your group (and within the enemy's group). You still take turns with the enemy. Kind of sad that you have a 46 cm and still couldn't figure out simple game mechanics

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669002
The combat mechanics pretty much choose the highest range on your team to attack first, if there's multiple long range, they randomly select one. Followed by enemy's highest range, and goes back to your team's highest range that did not attack yet and so on then the cycle repeats.

If there's a BB on your team or enemy's, the order goes from your first alive to enemy's first alive(if your first alive kills the enemy's first alive, it skips to your second alive)

In night battles, it goes by order top to bottom, left to right, regardless of whether alive or dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669015
Not him, but i saw it all the time in 2-4 myself. But it wasnt until the recent maintenance that it happened.

I specifically remember it because i breathed a sigh of relief when i saw the wo dropped to 0 early on by KTKM torp, only to get my face raped by her aircraft anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669002
You do know range means shit right against the enemy right? It only affect the first shelling phase for your own fleet so that your own BB always go first before your DD. Long range doesnt mean you go first before the enemy turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669003
>>11669006
>>11669007
>>11668998
Are you all retarded?I complained about a recipe which gave me 2 depth charges, then >>11668975 this anon recommended this. It may be my shit luck screwing me, yet there was nothing to imply his unique recipe works.

I know 10tries means nothing but before I craft 100times I would like to confirm the presence of ASW material.

I'd like to stress the fact that 2 people tries to help whilst 4 people comes to insult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669027
There's this thing call google, you should try it out.

Calling one of them who helped you as a troll set people off, why don't you learn some manners from google too before coming back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669027
I gave you my results on somewhere around 50+ tries on it, you retard. And that recipe is on the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

I believe B and C rank on PVP is RNG as well.

Does all-ship sparkling on your support attack fleet affect their performance on the battle?

[Anonymous No.]

Why isn't kancolle-db in the op yet? It might help cut down on these stupid recipe posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669015
You're either clueless or retarded. Happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME in 2-2, 2-3 especially - I know that flagship Wos are supposedly able to launch while dead/at night, but in that area especially non-flagships do it constantly.

>day battle
Also bullshit. Second round sure, but range doesn't seem to actually matter in first round either. Been watching pretty carefully during the last 31 2-4-A runs since I started noticing that, since I got 46cms right about when I started it and was expecting good things from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669027
You want the best ASW equipment?
It is time for you to start up a makigumo farm.
This recipe net me a holo sonar 100%. No penguin and no shitty guns!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669027
Oh yeah sure, call me retarded. I tried using that anon's recipe and I got these results, suck it anon.

HQ level: 59
Flagship: 58 Hibiki-Kai
Penguin
99 Dive Bomber
21 Fighter
Type 94 Depth Charge

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669047
I haven't been clearing carrier maps lately, so it's possible that there's a new bug with carriers launching planes I haven't seen.

As for range, it works correctly. Maybe you just don't understand what it's supposed to do?

For your first turn in day combat, your ship with the longest range attacks, then the enemy ship with longest range, then your next longest range ship, and on from there. Does that make sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669052
Best ASW equipment ever.

Where's the best place to farm Makigumo? Never been lucky with 2-3 drops ever. Not that anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669052
I need more Makigumo... !

[Anonymous No.]

Question about combat mechanics. So supposedly longest range on your team goes first turn, then longest range on enemy's team then cycles right?

I just went through a 3-2 grind run when 3/5 of my enemies got dunked by the opening torpedoes, my Kongou took a turn and killed the enemy then my Ooi took a turn immediately after. The enemy DD did not even fire a single shot, so how does this really work?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the consensus on night battle and formation?
Horizontal formation, 4 of my ships failed to kill 2remaining ships at 4-4. 3 of them missed completely. With double setup the hit rate is 1/8.
I thought you guys were joking about using echelon formation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669102
You killed the longest range on the enemy's team with your opening torpedo attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669111
Oh, so they calculate range before the torpedo salvos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669109
Why would I joke about using echelon? It's the formation that lets you hit subs without totally gimping your offensive power like horizontal line does, while vertical line makes you do shit damage to subs. Kill the sub in day battle and you can double attack everyone else to death in night battle. It's very hard to hit a sub in night battle regardless of formation.

>>11669119
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

This was a terrible mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669148
what in the world happened to her
did she eat 5 crits from BBs in a row?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669148
Why are you using trophies to fight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669157
Night battle, 3 cut-ins.

>>11669162
Because she one-shots enemy flagship BBs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669120
>gimping your offensive power like horizontal line does
I am not too sure about this statement. Wikiwiki said that both formation has 0.6 modifier for 砲撃. Problem with echelon is actually killing the sub. I only bring 2DD so if any 1 of them miss or I got red T-crossed, I will not be able to kill the sub and say goodbye to my S rank Nagato drop.
The real question is, does formation actually affect night battle? Echelon is confirmed to be godly during night battle but what about the rest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669174
Have you seen how often torpedoes/attacks in general miss while in horizontal line? I don't mean just firepower (砲撃) when I say "offensive power". You said yourself your ships kept missing while in horizontal line.

Yes, formation affects night battle. Vertical line is pretty standard run-of-the-mill everybody hits and gets hit. Double line reduces effect of enemy cut-ins. Horizontal line reduces both yours and the enemy's accuracy for single and double attack (but doesn't affect accuracy of cut-ins).

[Anonymous No.]

Does all-ship sparkling on your support attack expedition fleet affect their performance on the battle?

Or am i wasting my sparkles?

Please help /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669255
Sparkling the flagship increases accuracy/how often they show up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669277
Just the flagship is enough? Noted.

I am taking the 2nd expedition so they will only appear on boss node.

Although in the process of sparkling everyone I sometimes lost a few PVPs..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669255
>>11669277
On a somewhat related note, how does one go about sparkling a sub?

Is there some kind of equipment that lets subs attack during the day?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just haven't seen any kind of answer on the wikia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669287
But subs attack during the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669287
Type A kyo-hoteki when the sub's level is <10

Else, they attack during the day/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669287
Maybe you should try sending out a sub into battle first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669297
>>11669299
But, I have. My Iku does shit until night, just dodges everything during the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669303
Then you did not read the Wiki FAQ. Really.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking fuck yes! Haha!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669324

Forgot picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669324
congrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669328
>>11669327
oh good you were being sarcastic too

[Anonymous No.]

So if I were to save up 99 dev kits and then craft the rare destroyer recipe nonstop (replenishing resources when I run out), what are my chances to getting a Yukikaze? I-168? Both? I'd do the math myself but I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669374
There are the percentage on the wiki, Onii-chan.

And I don't believe in percentage, I crafted Shimakaze and Yukikaze together side by side anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669374
Do 270/x/330/x and it's 0.2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669374
You get all of them in a month of crafting with the daily. So I guess 1%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669374
Just do 3-3-A for Imuya. I've gotten about 10 of her there and have had to use a few for modernization because I don't want to bother leveling all of them. Yukikaze was more difficult and I didn't get her till about level 81. I just used the 250/30/200/30 recipe for dailies till I got her.

I didn't start logging my crafting attempts till level 64, but from that point it took me 48 attempts with that recipe to get her. I got a couple Shimakaze and other rare ships along the way as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669374
Assuming 5% chance for either Yukikaze or Shimakaze and a truly random crafting system, your probability of getting one of them is 1-(1-5/100)^99, or 99.4%.

Knowing the game's devs though the RNG isn't truly random so that might as well be 0%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669387
Logging crafting attempts raises yukikaze chance

Noted.

[Anonymous No.]

>Taste the power of the Big 7!
>Misses

Every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669419
Yamato
Nagato
Musashi
Mutsu

Who's the next three?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669442
Yamato and Musashi are not part of the Big 7
read the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, finally passed 2-4. I had to "risk" my CVs in a night battle stage to assert my dominance over the enemy, but I pulled it off with an A and no sunken ships (I thought for sure my 2HP Akagi was done when the enemy flagship hit her with a 16inch cut-in but she only took 1 damage)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669450
I don't know that it was worth risking your Akagi but congrats on finishing it the right way. Then again she was probably in orange beforehand and not in any real risk of sinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669455
My 4 HP Nachi was targeted at night by flagship WO boss and got a "miss" on her. I guess I was really lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669450
i dont think your ships can sink in night battle if they started day battle with green/yellow HP

at least i go into night battle with low ships all the time and thats never happened to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669455
>>11669456
Yeah, calculated risk. I didn't expect to lose her since she was safe before the night battle. Hell, I'm 100% sure she was protected or that 16 inch cut-in would have sunk her.

[Anonymous No.]

This is my sub. She is rainbows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669456
How low is low for you? Red?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669450
Pretty much 99% confirmed that as long as your ships started the battle at orange or better, it will not sink at night even if it became red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669464
yeah i go into night battle with red hp pretty much anytime i can if it means getting an S rank, even with zuikaku or nagato or shimakaze.

correct me if i'm wrong because if so then that explains where all my luck has gone.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, 2-4 is pretty brutal for Shimakaze drop. 35% of the time I don't get a single ship dropped, with an S ranking.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is there suddenly so many high levels in my pvp?

[Anonymous No.]

When do they usually pass out the monthly ranking rewards? At the first maintenance of the month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669510
considering you just S ranked admirals at least 20 levels higher than you, your shipdaughters should be rolling in experience right now

Also because pvp is also determined by your admiral rank if I'm not wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669510
you're only 9 levels above me and all my ships are below level 25
what am i doing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669510
Monthly ranking got reset this morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669514
Usually takes two or three weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669517
That makes sense
>>11669532
So I should be going up against high levels all this month until next reset?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669545
These high ranker gonna earn more HQ exp and leave you.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the new plane worth the 96 hours of expedition time? The expedition rewards are awful too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669545
nah, only until the distribution gets more balanced out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669555
Why don't you compare those stats yourself?
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669554
>>11669557
Well can't say I wont enjoy it while it lasts, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

There's an AR app?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669560
So... no then. Looks like the 12A is better.

[Anonymous No.]

Yamato class be styling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669510
Oh yeah sure, you get all the nice high level ships to fight with and I get this. Thanks for nothing random pvp list

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669607
Musashi looks nice in a non slutty outfit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669607
I still refuse to believe that cis is a girl. I just... Can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669607
What happened to their boobs!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669615
They look much better without them

[Anonymous No.]

Did someone mess with Kongou's tea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669619
no they don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669619
I couldn't agree more. I'm imagining Atago and Takao as lovely ladies without the tumors already.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be the best place to farm enemy carriers for the weekly? Preferably with as few battleships as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669607
Nice Sakura Taisen outfits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669632
Too bad there's never going to be a sixth game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669630
Have you tried 2-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669470
I'll trade you shimakaze for an ooi. I have 6 speedsluts from desperately farming 2-4, but no ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669630
2-3 with subs. The two nodes in the southern route all contain carriers and each encounter usually only has 1 ship that can even attack subs. The northernmost node has carriers as well, again with only 1 (or 2, I forget) ships that can hit subs. The only nodes that contain multiple sub-attacking ships is the very first one you can encounter via either starting route, and the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669638
i have 3 ooi and ktkm each from 2-4-A but no shimakaze

this RNG makes me laugh out of frustration i love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669635
Oh I was getting stages mixed up for some reason and forgot that had CVLs. Thanks.

>>11669641
Once my sub population goes above 1, I'll try this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669638
I wonder if it's even worth it to keep these rare ships you already have. Trading will never be implemented at this rate, so you might as well use them as modernization fodder right off the bat

[Anonymous No.]

Does unlocking 5-1 require completing both 4-4 and 3-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669648
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669648
is it even possible to get to world 4 without completing 3-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669651
Worlds 3 and 4 are unlocked at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669638
Try 3-3 for Ooi. I finally found her there after someone suggested it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669654
To think I'm at world 3 and have never bothered to check world 4 to see that it was unlocked wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669660
How do you do your sub daily?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669651
Not sure if troll, but yes. Once you complete 2-4 you gain access to 3-1 and 4-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669645
Always keep an ooi or kitakami as spare in case they sink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11669659
3-3-A is one of the better grinding spots after you finish 3-2 due to the relative ease of the encounters there, and the fact that a lot of rarer ships can drop there. Getting anything but S-rank on that node is pretty rare.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>11669640
I believe they ripped the desire sensor coding from monster hunter. Those japs are terrifying.