Diet

[Anonymous No.]

I am interested in having a complete authentic Japanese Diet because I just love how healthy/practical the diet can be.

What are the most basic ingredients to start me off? I know about Tempura flour, use of various seafood, pickled ginger, short-grain sticky rice, dashi, wake, nori, noodles, fermented soybeans, other soybean products such as tofu, sesame seeds and oil, cooking sake...

What else would I need to have a well-rounded yet basic Japanese diet. I want to go to my local Asian market and pick up some things to start me off. What should I get?

[Anonymous No.]

>I am interested in having a complete authentic Japanese Diet because I just love how healthy/practical the diet can be.

All the ironic shitposting in the world will never be as funny as threads like these.

[Anonymous No.]

Bentos are pretty balanced.

Here is a dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hbPLsZvvo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622943
I assume all of the posts like these are ironic shitposting...

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the Japanese cuisine thread?

Hello mina-san! Im looking for a bento box, it cant be pinku (thats japanese for pink) or any girl color. It has to be of 2 or more kotoba (thats japanese for 2 compartments) and has be be chibi (small) sized. And has to be really kawaii (cute). Also It has to be about 10-20 bux. And you have to post pics of it first (i want to make shure it's kawaii [cute]). And it would be nice if it came with matching chopstick holder (WITH chopsticks). OH! and it CANNOT have any cartoon pictures, or be made out of plastic. It has to be made of ceramic, or something like that. Also it would be nice if it was made in japan. and not in china or corea (korea) or whatever. I have found a bento box similar to the one im describing in e-bay, but it was 1 kotoba, and i dont want my gohan (rice) to touch my other things (it can get wet and i would not like that, plus 2 compartments looks more kawaii).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622947
I love cooking with doge

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622959
Someone should actually making a Cooking with Doge parody series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622961
I never get this kopipe. Why does he want it to be cute, but not pink or with cartoon characters? If he wants a true Japanese lunch box, why ceramic over lacquered wood?

[Anonymous No.]

>Implying you will even attempt to cook
You might as well just eat nothing but ramen cup noodles for your authentic Japanese "diet".

[Anonymous No.]

Here, let me translate your inside feelings for you.

>I've decided to stop being fat. Please praise me.

[Anonymous No.]

>Japanese Diet

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622969

Weaboos aren't rational.

[Anonymous No.]

A tuna and mayo sushi roll, with soy sauce and wasabi on the side, is a simple and delicious way to enjoy sushi at home! The rice must be short-grained (Cal Rose) and the nori is affordable if you buy it in bulk online. Nori is good to just snack on by itself too! What are you waiting for, /jp/? Go to your local Asian Grocer today!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622981
I actually do cook for myself and I am decent at it.

>>11622989

I am 5'4" 120lbs, aka practically Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

Indian cuisine is best cuisine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622992
>those people wearing masks

wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622943

It reminds me of that hilarious post about how there's something 'abstract, magical and exotic' about Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622992
The cutie in blue up front has a nice bust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623002
That's tiny Jew mode not Japanese, I'm Japanese and I'm 6'2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623006

I don't feel Japan is somehow special but it has been said that they have one of the world's most healthy diets. I am a very fussy eater and I tend to not eat a lot so the diet seems fitting for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938


>not the paleo diet

Do you even blood and thunder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623001
It's to protect against the dreaded Japanese cold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623015

> but it has been said that they have one of the world's most healthy diets

By who? Please provide links. You apparently already had this information before I asked you for it, so it should be provided promptly and shouldn't require any searching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623013
You're an exception. The average height of a Japanese male is 5'4". It's useful for ninjas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623022
Not that guy but Japan does have a long life expectancy, mostly because they eat a lot of fish.

As for whether they have one of the best diets in general, I don't know.

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>>11623022
I am not sure what you mean? I want to start buying groceries but I don't want to waste my money because I don't know what I am doing.

My nutritionist told me about it. Italy is #2 healthiest diet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623022
http://www.askmen.com/sports/foodcourt_200/201_eating_well.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623028

>mostly because they eat a lot of fish.

I don't think you understand how these things work. When you're making an argument, you don't just blurt out whatever would make you sound right - you have to provide evidence for spectacular claims like this.

[Anonymous No.]

https://soylent.me/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623029

>My nutritionist told me about it.

Sorry, this isn't a source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623030
Well, there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/05/17/national/japan-still-tops-in-life-expectancy/

I don't remember where I got the fish thing from, though. It might have been /jp/. Are you saying my hazy recollection of a /jp/ post isn't reliable evidence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623035

It's an anecdotal source. Anyway, just google Japanese diet healthy and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623034

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-raiswell/4/4b8/878

This person is not a nutritionist, or a scientist of any kind. He's a tabloid writer.

>>11623041

>It's an anecdotal source.

No such thing.

>just google Japanese diet healthy and see for yourself.

I tried regular google and it brought up two or three articles with no scientific sources. I tried scholar.google.com and it brought up nothing relevant.

>>11623038

The contested point isn't that Japan has a high life-expectancy, it's that this is caused by high fish intake.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese traditional diets are balanced just like everyone traditional diet is balanced. If they weren't, they wouldn't be traditional. There's no reason to follow unless you're weeb as fuck.

It's difficult to follow a Japanese diet if you aren't in Japan since you would need all kinds of weird veggies. Also, it's smaller portioned than you might be used to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623038
I think I found the post, it was one of these:
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S9539525#p9539627
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S10392404#p10392619

This guy seems to know what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623049

Call up a nutritionist for yourself if you want and stop whining, Mr. Researcher

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623050
>It's difficult to follow a Japanese diet if you aren't in Japan since you would need all kinds of weird veggies.

You can improvise. Such as using angel hair pasta with baking soda for noodles. There is also a grocery that sells a lot of the traditional stuff near me. A lot of the veggies are available too and again you can improvise.

>Also, it's smaller portioned than you might be used to.

That's perfect for me because I eat like a bird.

[Anonymous No.]

What's so good about fish, anyway? I keep hearing how essential it is, but what is it about fish specifically?

I thought I could just take fish oil tablets, but this has made me a little more sceptical:
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/05May/Documents/BtH_supplements.pdf

[Anonymous No.]

Eat whatever you want as long as you're not drinking milk like a fat cunt. That's all the nutritional advice I can stand on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623060
>What's so good about fish, anyway? I keep hearing how essential it is, but what is it about fish specifically?

Maybe we haven't discovered the other substances in it. We once didn't know about phytocholesterol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623059
Are you autistic like a bird, too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623065

Maybe. I don't know how a bird can be autistic since they aren't human, though. I kid. I know you're being an asshole and aren't being literal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622992
lol at the guy sleeping and the person behind trying to wake him up

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623049


i dont think the beneficence of fish is very contested.

now soybeans? that is much more risable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623054

It's not my job to get sources for your claim, that isn't how the burden of proof works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623068

The 'beneficence' of fish is not what's in question. The claim that the reason for Japan's life expectancy is its high fish consumption is what is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623068
soybeans make you grow titties do not eat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623078
>that isn't how the burden of proof works.

Maybe if we were in a debate class. I'm not privy to do your research for you, and I don't rightly care if you believe it's untrue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623083
I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW BREAST FEELS LIKE. WHY CANT YOU LEAVE ME ALONE WITH MY SOYBEANS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623049
The Japanese diet is low in fat and high in high-quality fish protein. There is little consumption of red meat which has been linked to heart disease and other diseases like age-related macular degeneration. The Japanese diet is high in phytonutrients, vitamins and minerals and when combined with high-quality fish protein that provides a lean source of essential amino acids and omega-3 fatty acids, it makes for a model diet. The Japanese diet is the healthiest in the world and this and more detailed information is presented in any Nutrition 101 class.

I admire that you are questioning assumptions, but in this case you are arguing against established facts and it just makes you look ignorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111

Got any sources? Since your point of view is apparently common knowledge there should be many peer reviewed studies backing it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111
>The Japanese diet is low in fat and high in high-quality fish protein.
kek
That must be because of all the SUSHI they eat, amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623087

>I'm not privy to do your research for you

I'll reiterate that it's not 'my research' when it's your claim.

>and I don't rightly care if you believe it's untrue.

You're free to ignore the way things work, I guess? Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111

Eggs are low in fat and have literally THE highest-quality protein on the planet for human consumption. Better eat only eggs if you want to live to old age!

Checkmate, atheists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111
>which has been linked to heart disease and other diseases like age-related macular degeneration.

But where's your source? "The Daily Mail" isn't a source by the way, nor is any news outlet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623134
Call up WHO if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623131
eggs arent low in fat you nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623142

Yes they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623143
theyre literlaly half made from fat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623138

Sorry, not my job to prove your argument right. Give sources if you have them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623131


actually, eggs are infact very good for eating, especially the yolk, which has many vital nutrients that cannot be easily found elsewhere (like vitamin b12, lecithin, or cholesterol [protip, dietary cholesterol intake is not correlated with plaque formation, but it is a necessary precursor for steroidal hormones and cell formation).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623117
I'm not here to write a dissertation, bud. I just pointed you in the right direction. The sources are out there, and it's up to you to get them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623142
https://www.google.com/search?q=egg+fat

5g in fat.

Also you're one of those people who thinks eating fat makes you fat, aren't you? Hurrr I don't understand anything about body metabolism but of course! Eating fat = adding fat!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
what a homosexual weaboo

get out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623134
My source is my B.S., bud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623153
you are fucking stupid more than half the calories in an egg is from fat and no i eat lots of fat intentionally

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623161
How am I fucking stupid? You're worried about CALORIES? 78 calories, read the fucking description.

Meanwhile, you're going to go drink a 65g sugar soda, aren't you? Yeah, go drink that load of sugar. That's where your fat is coming from, bro.

Not from a 5g fat egg with 78 calories. Jesus christ you people are brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623165
fat content in an egg is high stop trying to misdirect your idiotsy you shading fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623147
kay

[Anonymous No.]

Feel when you have follow the shittiest diet ever.

I'll probably die in a few years.

[Anonymous No.]

Op here trolle you guis hard :-DDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623006
If a white guy comes to japan, he is considered exotic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623160

Your bull shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623165

Woah woah woah there, /fit/. This thread is for non-retarded people.

We might eat healthy so we can live fun NEET lives with out 2D girlfriends longer, but we're not so pathetic and concerned with others' perceptions of us that we'll spend hours per day doing something pointless and without benefit (exercise, if your neanderthal brain is still trying to guess what I mean.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623168
I'm redirecting your idiocy, sir.

SUGAR is the main component of fat production, not fat. Why?

>Increased lipid synthesis – insulin forces fat cells to take in blood lipids, which are converted to triglycerides;
>Increased esterification of fatty acids – forces adipose tissue to make fats (i.e., triglycerides) from fatty acid esters
>Decreased lipolysis – forces reduction in conversion of fat cell lipid stores into blood fatty acids

All of this shit means is, you drink soda, you create fat AND you prevent the use of the fat you already have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623178
what the FUCK does that got to do with the fat content of a egg that you said was low

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623187

*whips out dick*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623187
It has everything to do with the fact that I'm trying to get into your little brain that FAT is not bad. Stop emphasizing FAT. You are implying that fat is bad for you. Get it now? Did I explain clearly enough to you?

[Anonymous No.]

I was told this is the crossboarding thread?

Just got here from /v/, pretty cool place.

Anybody want to play Dota 2 with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623194
FAT CAN BE BAD IN SOME SCNERARIOS NIGGER AS MUCH AS YOU WANNA MISDIRECT WITH YOUR STUPID ASS BULLSHITE

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623196

Butter knives can be bad in some scenarios, such as when you put them in your eyes. Therefore butter knives are bad and should be avoided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623218
where did i say you should avoid eggs

typical nigger cant read

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623196
Yes you are absolutely correct in that anything can be bad for you in excess. Off to /fit/ with me then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623195
Who is telling you about threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623178
You think you can sway me with ypur fancy words, anon? Think again.

[Anonymous No.]

My half-japanese grandfather lived to 113.

His secret? A tablespoon of olive oil a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>healthy/practical diet
>use of various seafood

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623241
But olive oil is fat..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623252
fat can be good, you need it for your brain to function properly.

>>11623249

the radiation is relatively mild

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623252
That's why he ate a tablespoon of it, not a bucket.

[Anonymous No.]

Luckily I take clinically-proven nootropics like Vitabiotics Neurozan, so I don't have to worry about filling my body with excess fat and harmful chemicals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623252
Healthy fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623266


fat is a superior energy source vs carbohydrates.

grains are the devil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623282
Take your paleo diet shit and shove it straight up your prehistoric ass, caveman-san.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623287


my prehistoric ass is toned and scientifically proven to be delicious

enjoy your wheat gut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622964
>>11622959
fuck, NOT EVEN /jp/ IS SAFE FROM THIS SHIT NOW

I wish you all died you fucking cancerous faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623290
got pics, shill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623083
This is true. I'm a guy and tofu gave me big milky F-cup titties that I fondle all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623335


dont hit on me silly boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623332
/jp/ has been /doge/ for over a year now.

You think a weeaboo board wouldn't post Japanese dogs? :laffo:

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623427
we had shiba inu puppy cam threads longer ago than that

[Anonymous No.]

Just eat the stuff from cooking with doge.
Btw, that milf is hot.

[Anonymous No.]

Rice and soy products

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623490
Has she mentioned she has a child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623518
that makes it better imagine fucking her in front of her kids and everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623518
They actually keep her identity a secret. We know she was in a car accident that one time, but we don't even know her name.

I'm guessing she's a mother given her age, and that it's shameful in Japan to not have popped out a few babies by then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623427
I don't think that epic tumblr can't speak english correctly dog maymay is even 6 months old, let alone a year.

you may post shiba dogs, but if you do, all the tumblr seeping into the board will come out to greet you thinking you're one of them. so, they have raped the idea of a shiba dog. I used to have a pretty nice image I would post, but if I did it now I'd probably get "wow.. so nice image.. doge... check privilege.. based my sides". So I can't anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623537
It's like you've never seen this image before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623537


fun fact, the first doges were not shiba.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>11623543
https://archive.installgentoo.net/g/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=bo9d3SvpPw_y_zpE4VxF_w&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

So it's longer than a year, barely. Do you think that makes it okay to be from tumblr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623562
whats wrong with tumblr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623562


except thats backwards, you thinking it came from tumblr first does not reflect well no you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623562
That particular image was created by another board on 4chan and a lot longer than a year ago.

Lurk more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623562

What are we on, /v/? Who cares where it's from. Actually the fact you called it a "maymay, and bitch about tumblr and feminists makes me believe you're from /v/. You should stay there or at the very least keep all that bullshit out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

https://archive.installgentoo.net/g/thread/28070067
> tumblr_mb3hokfupJ1raaf5co1_1280.png

> Bad OC is bad.

Tumblr rips off 4chan and claims it as OC = everybody gets mad
4chan rips off Tumblr and claims it as OC = everybody raves

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623567
>>11623568
Prove it, tumblr losers.

>>11623576
I dislike tumblr for a different reason. I bitched about a /v/ meme that's been trying to appear on /jp/ too, if it's any consolation to you. Ironically, it's far less accepted than your tumblr stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623578


i bet you think reddit invented 'rage comics'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623521
Then a big part of the nation must feel shameful if the population is decreasing, but no, the new generation of women follow careers and the guys become neets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623583
>a /v/ meme

Are you the same kind of person who thinks "that feel" is a /v/ or /a/ or /tv/ or whatever meme, just because that's where you know it from?

Most of the famous memes come from /jp/. I'm not saying they were created here, but they originate here on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623589
It did.

"FFFUUUU" 4komas aren't true rage comics, they're only a small subset of them, and MS Paint relationships comics are completely different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623592

Stop posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623592


lol, where do you think they got all the templates from? we did those first too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623591
Please direct me to emo touhou music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623593
Great argument, dweeb.

If you can't tell the difference between
>kick cat by accident
>FFFFUUUUU
and the whole culture of rage comics, you're an idort (look that one up).
Rage comics combine pretty much every other meme that can be reduced to black-and-white into a template for infinite possibilities. FFFUUUU comics on /b/ were just "hey what annoys you?" and even /b/ hated them.

I'm not saying rage comics are great, but there are a few funny ones and they would have never appeared on /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623600
No you didn't. 4chan is just as derivative as Reddit. Almost every reaction image comes from some manga, TV show, etc. except for the ones by Whynne and Three Angled Blue. Yet I don't hear anyone on 4chan complaining that Fark or YTMND came up with something, even though everyone throws a hissy fit when Reddit steals our memes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623609

Rage comics on 4chan were the precursor to the ones Reddit made. We did them first, and Reddit copied them and changed them into something we hate, but we still did them first.

>and the whole culture of rage comics, you're an idort (look that one up).

You don't know what an idort is.

[Anonymous No.]

Stolen from Krautchan

[Anonymous No.]

The irony meter is going to break if all this keeps up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623609


its too late to skim ED now, everyone already knows youre a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623612


wow reaction images come from source material? what a shocking revelation, i guess everyone should just stop thinking now because all thought are ultimately derivative of some previous state.

>4chan is just as derivative as Reddit

considering the fact that they derive from us, this is demonstrably false.


these flailings are a perfect example of a reddit crossie tryhard trying to appear like an old-fag but still cant get over himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623620
>Rage comics on 4chan were the precursor to the ones Reddit made. We did them first, and Reddit copied them and changed them into something we hate, but we still did them first.

Black and white comics have existed for hundreds of years. Sprite comics have existed since way before 4chan. What is your point?

>You don't know what an idort is.

It's the rage face with the red eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623665


>It's the rage face with the red eyes.

yeah, you dont know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623627
Die haben noch nie irgendwas gescheites zustande gebracht.

[Anonymous No.]

Please cease appropriation of muh imageboard culture immediately reddards.

[Anonymous No.]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/interior-monologue-captioning

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623678


>knowyourmeme

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623681
yes

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623685


no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623686
Stolen from 2ch and 4-ch.

[Anonymous No.]

First you need 480 authentic Japanese representatives and 242 authentic Japanese councillors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623691
what ever gets you through the day man

[Anonymous No.]

I've been having a thought experiment going. It may sound crazy, but I believe it possible to help further humanity and society by
making everyone fat. Why? Well, since fat is a social construct, and you can be equally healthy at all sizes. Then making everyone fat, will
effectively get rid of discrimination. If people are all equally fat, which you can do then you will remove discrimination as people are equal.
It is impossible to make everyone thin, but it is possible to make everyone fat.

What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623702
I think you should suck my cock dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623702
I saw this in another thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622947
where do I buy the box itself?

it looks practical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623698


what gets me through the day is ignoring the banal attempts of old media to commercialize and democratize sub-cultures they have no understanding of.

linking knowyourmeme is basically saying 'not even gaiaonline is pleb enough for me to comprehend'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623703
Only if you are a fat nerd.
>>11623705
Stop following me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623714
whatever dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623702
I think you're both ironically and non-ironically retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623686
wow, the mythical yoshinoya sure doesn't look all that intimidating

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623719


im glad we could come to an understanding.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't come here if you want healthy food. A lot of it is absolutely full of salt (the average Japanese person consumes like 2x of the recommended allowance) and generally low in nutrition. Vegetables are really expensive.

Give me my western supermarket any day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624335
Vegetables expensive? No, meat is expensive, but not that green stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624345
They're both expensive. So are fruit.

Food here is generally expensive. Hopefully TPP will sort things out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623712
J-list

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623023
I'm also Japanese and I'm 6'1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
just buy soylent
its way cheaper and healthier than anything

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese people in /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't most of the old people from Japan are in Okinawa?

Their diet consists of a lot of vegetables, and side dishes made from gouya, not sure if it's the same bitter melon on US areas.

It kind of takes a while though until you get used to the taste.

[Anonymous No.]

What are all my cute /jp/sies having for dinner tonight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
Probably nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
None of your fucking business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624662
>how healthy/practical the diet can be.

But otaku aren't healthy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
you're mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
Diet Coke and vodka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
Go to Japan.
See McDonald's everywhere.

McDonald's is authentic Japanese diet.

You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

Post your weight, height and daily caloric intake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624714
>weight
too heavy
>height
too short
>daily caloric intake
too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624714
215 lb.
6 ft.
Enough to keep my RIPPED body RIPPED.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624714
30 kg
139 cm

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624714

260lb, 5'11", too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624710
If japanese people eat at McDonald's so goddamn much, how come they aren't all obese like on the US?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
Maybe they serve sushi burgers ww

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
Asians are all anorexic, they lack the ability to gain weight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
Because they walk everywhere instead of pulling up to drive throughs. Also, Americans have a lot of Germanic/Teutonic lineage and those are big people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624771
Sumo wrestlers

check And mate

deal w/ it

cry more bitch nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
(regular) burgers are like pizzas over there, they're family servings and the solo ones are small

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
Genetics

[Warosu Captain !k4Sscx5eus No.]

alright w-bros time to blog in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624779
is he wearing an armor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623019
the common cold is actually a very high cause of death in japan and egypt, probably because of the lack of genetic variation (ie, inbreeding/ lack of race mixing).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623168
>>11623165
>>11623161
>>11623153
Calories are the only thing that influence weight gain. Macronutrients themselves dont.
3500 calories = 1lb gained
proteins and carbs have 4.5 calores per gram, fat has 9, alcohols have 7.

Fat itself isnt harmful, in fact, it's neccessary for 10-25% of your calories per day to come from fat for ideal hormone production and regulation.
50-60% should be carbohydrates, for energy and brain activity, and the rest protein for muscle synthesis and repair.

Too little carbohydrates mean that your body starts using fat and protein as energy sources, which in the long run is bad for your kidneys (and general health).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625164
you passed highschool biology? grat

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625179
passing high school biology is enough to correct those who apparently didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625164
>bad for your kidneys
no it isn't, ketosis is not harmful

[Anonymous No.]

why was so much in this thread deleted when theres so much of the same shit no deleted

please refrain from this type of thread shaping nuj

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623125
Yeah, about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625277
http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/maggots.asp

That's an American cancer patient.

[Anonymous No.]

I would at least assume the average JP diet is superior to americlaps eating burgers and drinking coke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625317
not really

tradtional diets are mostly all healthy

modern diets are mostly all unhealthy even in nipland

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625302
>the pictures date from October 2002 and are photographs of a man in his 70s who was suffering from an unusual form of cancer which had eaten away at the upper portion of his skull and scalp, but who had not sought any medical treatment because the condition was not causing him pain.
How fucking insane/poor/3rd world do you have to be to have this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625348

Well he had an illness so severe that his brain literally started rotting so I doubt he was in the best mental condition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
Baked beans in a can! Delicious!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625348
You just need to hang around in swamps.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.japantoday.com/category/food/view/the-secrets-behind-10-japanese-food-pairings

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625247
Maybe not shortterm, but longterm it is. Unless muscular dystrophy and your lungs shutting down isnt your idea of harmful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625911
how the fug does it cause either of those things unless youre eating too few calories

first its kidneys now its lungs? i dont think you knw what youre talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
lonely and depression.....feel..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625931
>>11625931
cheer up nerd

[Anonymous No.]

Based janny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622947
>Mentos are pretty balanced.
Mentos are candy, though, I thought?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625247
>ketones
acidosis can put you on a ventilator in the hospital in short order. Or were you just trolling to see if anybody on here knew that? Well here you go, then: one of us did.

[Anonymous No.]

Breakfast:

Scrambled eggs with spinach
Rice
Warm tofu with soy sauce, ginger and Japanese scallion
Miso soup with daikon radish and usu-age (thin type fried tofu)
Genmai-cha

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631175
Are you japanese or white?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631179
I'm Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631362
This is an american blog board, please blog on your own japanese forums.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is it true that if you don't eat enough calories, you'll go into "starvation mode" and your metabolism will shut down? I'm trying to drop a few pounds, but I'm never hungry enough to eat more than about 800-900 calories a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631690
Yes.

When you're trying to lose excess weight, the point is to convince your body you have a constant supply of food and it doesn't need to store anything for later. Just eating often and regularly might help, regardless of meal size. Of course nothing beats eating normally and exercising to burn more than you ate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631690
If you are actually only eating 800-900 calories a day, your weight will dramatically decrease, however you will also get light headed, start passing out, get very tired when trying to exert yourself e.g. climbing stairs and your overall health will decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631690
It's only an issue if you return to your normal diet after you finish losing weight or if you binge eat during the diet. If you starve for the rest of your life, you'll never have to worry about that.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the official /jp/ food? I'd like to eat with a /jp/ for dinner!

[Anonymous No.]

I ate rice with vegetables and spiced tuna except you can't tell that it was spiced tuna so it was waste of money just buy normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>11631690
If you seriously want to lose weight then you have to change your entire lifestyle. Generally the faster weight is lost the faster it comes back.
Lose fat slow and steadily and it'll stay gone, and you do that by eating slightly less and ramping up the exercise you do on a regular basis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634705
"Eating slightly less" assumes that you're doing the whole balanced diet thing.
First thing you should do is cut out cakes, sweets, soda, anything with high amounts of sugar in it.
Have regular meals so your body is expecting food and gets it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634696
dicks

[Tokiko- No.]

on the topic of diets i just parachuted a mix of 40mg methoxetamine and 2mg xanax powder

[Tokiko- No.]

>>11634756
well open up, its time for your daily vitamins

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634728
/jp/sie smelly NEET semen is an essential nutrient for /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634754
What happened afterwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634758
you're an uggo, do you think I have such low standards or what

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634770
What's an uggo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623061

But milk is the food of strength athletes, not fat people. It's very high in protein. There's a reason for the SQUATS AND MILK training regimen.

[Freezing No.]

No Curry and Wcdonalds?

[Anonymous No.]

I have a konbiniya nearby me. It's got all sorts of japanese vegetables and foods and ingredients. What should I get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11637241
some condoms and a bottle of lube for when i come over to wreck your ass, nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

You're alone with a cute shy skinny /jp/ when suddenly her stomach grumbles and she blushes and looks away. What food would you offer her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623686
Apparently the Yoshinoyas in Japan are actually good because the ones in the states are really bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11639710
hamus burgus

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you hamburger otaku get your buns from?
My hamburgers are almost perfect except the buns. I mostly buy them from the supermarket. But for a better storage life, the buns have a thin film of alcohol on them, which makes them taste really gross.
And i don't think it'll be easy, making them on your own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11640460
Why is there a baked potato on her plate when the filename is hamburger? Is she stupid or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11640513
Because in japan the term "hambagah" is also refered for these kind of meals, which is pretty much just a Salisbury steak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
The only meal I usually eat a day I have no control over, being the house-ridden, human parasite that I am: feeding off of the generosity of others when I could actually cook a decent meal if I wanted to. How pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

tonkatsu , toriniku, sakana, niwatori, nori, yakitori, ginger, miso, soy sauce, sugar, fish sauce, miso, mayo, panko bonito, mirin, wheat starch, udon, daikon, ramen, somen, tofu, soba

[Anonymous No.]

>>11647468
spring onion, leek, cabbage, shitake mashroom, Gohan, sake, rice vinegar,

now cook me something

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624694
>what are you having for dinner?
Bad grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11652216
OUT

[Anonymous No.]

Why does this thread have so many deleted posts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11653180
because it's entirely offtopic weeaboo garbage and made by the janitor like that penpal thread
it's only natural that he babysits it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11653201

I find it hard to believe that some of these posts were deleted, because they clearly broke no rules. A lot of the posts just called the OP an idiot/criticized the idea of 'eating Japanese.' I think the posters probably deleted their own posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11654746
It's what the shitposters want you to believe. I wish there was a way to get rid of the IRC squad for good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622947

this is amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11654752
I wish there was a way to get rid of the literal weeaboo threads like this one for good as well. Borderline threads might have a stay but this one has absolutely nothing at all to do with otaku culture.

[Anonymous No.]

I just added cinnamon to my glass of Diet Coke.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not really what Japanese cuisine is made out of but more how much.

Americans just eat a ridiculous amount of food and think it's normal. Japanese portions are much smaller, that's all there is to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11654746
Nice damage control, jani-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657127
>Japanese portions are much smaller, that's all there is to it.
That's not all there is to it. The staples are all stuff like rice, fish, tofu, seaweed, noodles, etc. which are all healthy or semi-healthy foods, compared to the typically consumed foods in America anyway. If you live in Japan you tend to eat TOO much rice and starch though, so unless you're making your own food and follow a strict diet you're not really that far off from the unhealthy eating habits the US has. They can't eat as much as Americans do so they eat less, but what they eat is mostly bentos and shit you pick up from the convenient stores.

What OP is thinking of is more along the lines of "washoku."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11640752
I hate Salisbury steaks.

The Japanese "Hamburger" is delicious. It's like a big fat BBQ patty done right and has the perfect taste/texture to go along with rice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657203
>The staples are all stuff like rice, fish, tofu, seaweed, noodles,
Which isn't necessarily quite staple. Japanese people that eat more western style meals don't weigh as much as Americans either. It's that they eat less of it and usually get more exercise from walking/biking to destinations or at least to the train station. Unless they live in bumfuck like nnb or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11654746
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>11634696
Come to my apartment and I'll make some instant noodles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111
the janitor made this awful post about how superior GLORIOUS NIPPON is and got owned so he went on a deleting spree. [b]embarrassing![/b/]

why do japs live longer than americans? cause the average american diet consists of

1) diet drinks. something that can clean pennies.
2) fast food. whole chicken are ground to make meat paste for those chicken nuggets
3) microwaved frozen meals. you guess
4) package snacks. little debbie aren't ingestible food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623111
the janitor made this awful post about how superior GLORIOUS NIPPON is and got owned so he went on a deleting spree. embarrassing!

why do japs live longer than americans? cause the average american diet consists of

1) diet drinks. something that can clean pennies.
2) fast food. whole chicken are ground to make meat paste for those chicken nuggets
3) microwaved frozen meals. you guess
4) package snacks. little debbie aren't ingestible food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657241,1
>>11657241,2
Thanks for unashamedly fixing your mistake without doing the whole, "Whoops! What a fool I am!" thing. I think that takes a lot of courage and I really respect you for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657241,3
it was just too obnoxious read the other way. i never made a mistake in my life, boi

[Anonymous No.]

Im looking for a bento box, it cant be pinku (thats japanese for pink) or any girl color. It has to be of 2 or more kotoba (thats japanese for 2 compartments) and has be be chibi (small) sized. And has to be really kawaii (cute). Also It has to be about 10-20 bux. And you have to post pics of it first (i want to make shure it's kawaii [cute]). And it would be nice if it came with matching chopstick holder (WITH chopsticks). OH! and it CANNOT have any cartoon pictures, or be made out of plastic. It has to be made of ceramic, or something like that. Also it would be nice if it was made in japan. and not in china or corea (korea) or whatever. I have found a bento box similar to the one im describing in e-bay, but it was 1 kotoba, and i dont want my gohan (rice) to touch my other things (it can get wet and i would not like that, plus 2 compartments looks more kawaii)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657241,2
freedom isn't free

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
Cereal and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished my first run through (araragi route?)

You guys were right, Sasamaru really is the thickest MC ever or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623023
>5'4"
maybe like 70 years ago, today's average is at least 170cm or so. Granted shorter than most countries on average but better than what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624651
Probobly some disgusting arby's that's next to the gas station I work at because I get a 50% discount so it helps on cost. I wish I could adopt a cute /jp/sy to make me bento before I go to work, to wich I come back from work and beat, because it was inadiquate and we proceed to have hate-sex.

[Anonymous No.]

Love white miso soup.
Currently using a pretty good instant one, but how hard is it to make one from scratch?

Also how do you get rice "just right"?
My rice cooker usually fucks it up (even with washed rice, a sticky film forms on the bottom of the cooker, making some of the rice unusable).
I never manage to get this about of firmness and dryness you get at asian restaurants.

Is my rice cooker just garbage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624640
i just bought a month of that stuff

way cheaper than packing my own meals for work (and packing is cheaper than eating out)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663656
$3 per meal isn't really cheap at all

[Anonymous No.]

Will you let this thread die already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663797
why would the janny let his own thread die

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
The reason why this topic is controversial and has so many conflicting studies is that nutritionists are not medical doctors, and do not take into account genetic and cultural differences.

The world is a large place and, despite religious beliefs, people evolved to suit their environment by developing intrinsic factors that allow them to assimilate the available food.
Without that adaptation, eating various non-indigenous food items can lead to medical complications no one can accurately predict.
That's why Inuit people can consume blubber and not have heart disease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665529
thanks for the bump you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11663606
If your rice cooker does not have a flat surface anymore, it's cooking the rice improperly. Make sure that it is very flat or else you would need a replacement.

And do use a little less water, a good rule of thumb in my experience would be to do 1:1.25 rather than 1.5 to get the "firm" and somewhat drier rice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11665529
Does this mean that Americans can live off fast food just fine?

Please respond, I don't believe in evolution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625156

Japan has less inbreeding than France and people don't casually die from a simple flu there you see?

[Anonymous No.]

... as if "authentic" Japanese cuisine hasn't been exposed to globalized new food items.

You think they were eating crepes and weird strawberry sandwiches in the Edo period?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671932
Isn't "common cold" just a coverup that they file suicides under to preserve family honor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671937
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671937
Hey the Sandwich Shogun made Uji Gintoki don and Barbarossa Shogun made use of mayonnaise on everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671940
Not suicides, but AIDS.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure that you're just bumping this thread to annoy me. It's working. I hope you're happy.

You can stop now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623019
>>11625156
do they really die from a cold like that or is it just suicide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623227
jesus your dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671953
just be happy this shit 404s faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>11671987
Yeah well, it doesn't work like that slow boards. But how would you know? Anyway, welcome to /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672009
it'll still 404 within the day once it hits the bump limit you god damn tryhard retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672015
No it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672021
okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672015
>Halfway to the bump limit
>404 within the day
>how new are you
>greening

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672029
>once it hits the bump limit
how retarded are /you/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672032
You forgot to quote the second part:
>just be happy this shit 404s faster
>faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622947
I never knew how much effort went into making a bento box.
What loving parents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672069
seems not worth the effort though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672083
like you're worth the effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672087
Woah dude, relax. That kinda shit is not tolerated around here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672087
Oh how I wish that everything was blue again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672087
holy shit ice burn

[Anonymous No.]

Take a look at the front page right now. It's fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11672069
>>11672083
Following basic instructions for 30 minutes tops is "effort"?

Did your mother never cook for you or anything? There are plenty of typical/regular Western meals that take a lot more time and effort.

[Anonymous No.]

I bought some Pocky today. They were nothing special. You're better off with a Nutella sandwich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11675129
thanks for the info and your bump

[Anonymous No.]

If a recipe calls for butter, can I use margarine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11681798
sibly epig x-----DDDDDDddddddd

[Anonymous No.]

>>11681798
It really depends. Butter provides lift when the water in the butter turns to steam. This is also applied when making puff pastry, to make something flaky or have layers.

What in specific calls for butter that you're wondering if you can replace with margarine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
Look up the Good Eats episode about the Japanese Pantry. There are some basics you're going to need.

Then you're going to need recipes. The Manga Cookbook is an easy one to follow. Anime Eats is harder to find but full of recipes.

Learn to make Taiyaki, Takoyaki, and Okonomiyaki.

Make some friends at the local asian food market. They'll be happy to help get you started because they know it's another customer for life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11681798
Yes. Margarine and butter are interchangeable.
Margarine when you want to reduce fat, Butter when you want more flavor, but margarine is cheaper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11682126
They're not entirely interchangeable at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11673310
Yeah she cooked dinners and breakfast.
When it came to taking lunch to school though we normally had a PB&J and a bag of chips.
If you were lucky you got a lunchable with a piece of candy and a juice packet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625348
>The case report summarizes a case of extensive cerebral myiasis in a periurban community in the United States.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11682126
Margarine is vegetable oil that's been pumped through a specialized kind of battery with a catalytic converter like they have on car exhaust pipes, and turned into trans fat. It was supposed to be a healthier chemical/plastic imitation of butter.

It's useless, given how terrible trans fats have turned out to be health wise, I'm not entirely sure why they still make or sell the stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11683023
People still think that margarine is healthy, I don't know why. My grandfather uses it all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11683029
Maybe they just liked the taste over time so they would prefer it nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625247
Have fun with your self induced diabetus

[Anonymous No.]

>>11657027
Have fun living in the south.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624757
Because they don't eat ridiculous amounts of that shit every day. You can eat a healthy meal for only a few hundred yen more at Ootoya. And it tastes way better

[Anonymous No.]

>>11623686
Matsuya > Yoshinoya

[Anonymous No.]

>>11683023

1) The fact that a catalytic converter is used in the production process of margarine has nothing whatsoever to do with its healthiness. Do you know what a catalytic converter is? Every factory for every food since the industrial boom contains one.

2) Saying that margarine is a 'chemical' or 'related to chemicals' is an idiotic scare-tactic. Your skin is filled with chemicals. Are you going to get rid of it? It sounds really dangerous, right?

3) Saying that margarine is a 'plastic' is false, and saying that is has molecular closeness to a plastic is another idiotic scare tactic. Salt has molecular closeness to an ultra-deadly gas. This does not mean you should be afraid of salt.

I'm tired of 'food fundamentalist' idiots regurgitating these same dumb misconceptions over and over. Also, take your dumb /a/ image and leave. You are not welcome here and never will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11684504
Lets not forget about Dihydrogen Monoxide poisoning, either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11684504
Margarine is still shit though. You haven't refuted that so I don't see why you care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11684579

I refuted all of your reasons you had for thinking margarine is shit. Sorry if you're too dumb to understand how that refutes your argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11684677
You didn't mention trans fats.

[Anonymous No.]

margarine is often made out of soy based oils and will make you gyno and kill your gains

[Anonymous No.]

I am out of kankoohii.

Now I am thinking of visiting a café.

What coffee should I buy from the café?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11684504
but muh toxins

[Anonymous No.]

>>11624335
Please stop with this stupid salt myth already.
It was disproven so hard.
All the other major studies were seriously flawed.

Not to mention the salt intake per person is hugely different depending on diet.
I mean HUGELY different.
As a very basic example, someone that doesn't drink as much water compared to someone that drinks a lot are the ones that are more at risk of salt over-consumption.

And for retards that spout the whole "but it caaaauses hypertension", no it doesn't.
There has been ZERO links to it.
It HEIGHTENS the severity of hypertension, but it does NOT cause it. At all. Not even slightly.
People are sensitive to salt just like some people are hilariously sensitive to water (nature sure is a dick) or people are sensitive to glutamates.
I've known people that have eaten considerably higher amounts of salt than those WITH hypertension and be perfectly fine. Hint, my grandparents.
And guess who just died first, my grandmother, the one with the hypertension.

"Salt is bad" is the same sort of retards that done the whole "fat is bad" research.
It just left the stage where fat was nearly a decade ago when "bad fat" was a thing.
Bad fat, dear christ America stop sciencing, you are polluting science with your fucking stupid.
Meanwhile the rest of the world know that there are upper tolerances to the various fats that are quite high.
The reason so many people are fat bastards is because they sit around doing absolutely nothing with all those minerals they are consuming, NOTHING ELSE.
The body has dealt with higher fat intake for literally thousands of years. It survived a god damn ice age and supervolcano.
It is highly capable of dealing with some toxins and over-consumption.
What it can't deal with is laziness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11625156
>lack of race mixing
>muh hybrid vigor
Nice try merchant, Japan has the highest life expectancy in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11687065
And blacks have the lowest life expectancy in the world. It's only fair to balance it out by having them breed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11622938
Don't use cooking sake. That is for a 2 star restaurant. If you are going to cook with alcohol use alcohol you would drink. Unless you do not care about flavor and are going for cost.

[Anonymous No.]

This was the best thread.