/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand this board anymore.
Everything that aren't the same regurgitated "in-memes" or spontaneous crapflooding just gets spammed by clinical autists who are afraid their precious little board could have threads outside their comfort zone. People actively discourage any real discussion or anything resembling actual content in favor of a repeating cycle of shit. No wonder people stop trying anymore and either become shitposters themselves or just stop visiting this place altogether.
I understand now what moot meant with this being a containment moat.

[Anonymous No.]

We are waiting for you at the secret board.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

I know what that feel what you mean.

lets kill ourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578740
Maybe you just outgrew 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't feel like making a new thread and this one is gonna be deleted anyway, so
>tfw you're much more enthralled by the plot of a 90s hentai than currently airing anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578751
People on other boards are nowhere near as malicious as they are here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578740
So essentially this applies to every board that isn't ludicrously popular

Fantastic observations

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578749
This is a slow season, to be sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578749
I know, they are forcing drama for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578740
don't blame us, tell that shit to the janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

rip /q/

[Anonymous No.]

Please do NOT report this thread as it will do nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578756
What does the janitor have to do with anything? It's not him that spams threads he doesn't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578740
>Went to /mu/
>People said the same thing about /mu/
>Went to /lit/
>People said the same thing about /lit/
>Went to /a/
>People said the same thing about /a/
>Went to /g/
>People said the same thing about /g/
>Went to /jp/
>Now you're saying it
I'm not quite tired of /jp/ yet though. After /jp/ I'll probably move to a combination of slower boards, which will be my final form.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578749
I've either tried or watched a lot of 80s/90s hentai and they all range from unbelievably horrible in every aspect to good to jack off to but the plot is stupid as hell or non-existent.

Look at this shit for a second.

[Anonymous No.]

Blame the Janitors and their deletionist policies.
No one in their right mind would make high quality posts when there's a 50/50 chance that they'll get deleted within the minute. This gives rise to the low-quality shitposting that you see all around you today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578760
I don't think you would like slower boards, your true final form will be a php forum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578759
>It's not him that spams threads he doesn't like.
It's him that deletes threads he doesn't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578760
no other board takes this amount of issue with their moderation

our mod is literal pedophile and our day shift janitor is a literal autist

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578765
I love fapping to that. But I haven't been able to find it in english since I deleted it. Just fucking Spanish.

Why's it look like it's been vectored or something?

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578760
No one says that on /g/ or /a/, probably neither /mu/ or /lit/ either.

I don't think anyone complains as much about moderation or their culture being ruined as /jp/. You don't hear that on any other board. You might here someone from /int/ complaining about goldstein the janitor deleting his anti-semetic post or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578759
the thread he doesn't like disappears.
and there is nothing else to talk about, so the thread remaining just get spammed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578770
No other boards shitpost this heavily. They have incessant flamewars and skub wars, but none of them openly wage war against the moderation for no other purpose than they have nothing to do but spam pointless threads all day and then fake whine when they are deleted.

[Anonymous No.]

>don't allow any one thing to dominate this board

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578776
/jp/ is probably the only board justified in waging a war against moderation though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578777
Why do you think the rules from "Japan/general" still applies? Besides, shitposting is dominating this board pretty hard and has been since 2011.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578772
If they haven't said it before, I'm saying it now.

>>11578770
I kind of like the janny here.

>>11578768
I detest PHP forums for anything other than knowledge base-type usage. I mostly hang out on IRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578783
sup jannie

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578777
And what's happening in reality is "Don't allow Otaku Culture to dominate the board, make sure you bring as much off-topic content you can".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578777
>becomes a hassle to moderate
why hasnt it been axed

>>11578776
thats because no other board has a real anon culture anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578776
yeah, because all other threads get deleted too. so we have nothing else to do than spam.

[Anonymous No.]

KILL THE JANITOR
DELETE /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Let's begin, list all the problems you found on this board.

To me, the biggest problem is the spam.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578783
The only thing dominating the board is janny.

Pic related it's janny hard at work saving /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578792
What spam? This thread?

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578796
yes, since we are all nihilist here. everything you see is the same shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578794
I want to be dominated by janny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578782
The only board I've ever seen be anything close to being justified is when /tg/ had a total nazi truly no-fun-allowed mod.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when people would actually call others out for using greentext incorrectly or posting anime image reactions?

Now nobody gives a shit. I give a shit, but it's not worth my time trying to argue with these retards.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay let's begin by stating the purpose of /jp/, which is of course to entertain it's users.
(Don't spout that crap about /jp/ being for discussion, it never has been). All the janitor is doing is preventing that purpose from being fulfilled. Thus the only sane course of action is to remove the janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578796
You can be sure the absolutely horrible Sanae thread will disappear before this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578803
No, because that only started like 2 years ago. Sorry junior.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578803
You mean the ">who are you quoting" meme that has mostly been retired?

Good to hear you really cared about that meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578790
None of the board relevant threads get deleted. Not the VN, not the eroge, not the Touhou, not the dolls, not even the fucking idol and kigshit.

Anime is not board related, archives are not board related, currently airing light novel of the season is not related. What are related threads you've made that have been deleted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578807
the sanae thread is much more relevant than this tard thread. at least no one complaint there.

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>>11578788
>>11578788
>>11578788

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>>11578796
For example this guy:

>>11578794
>>11578809
>>11578765

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578805
This is the cancer killing /jp/.

Sage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578818
Yeah, perhaps if you're referring to the china timezone.

[Anonymous No.]

OP's idea of a good thread is discussions of Tokyo club spots and Twitter tea blogging. Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous No.]

Night shift janny is chill. That's how a janitor should be. He doesn't let things go too far and also doesn't autistically trashcan everything. Mod is relatively chill too. It's this dayshift janny who's a cunt.

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>>11578809
I liked that meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578814
That's not spam

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578817
What's your idea of a good discussion? Which Touhou has the smelliest anus?

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578810
The issue is that you can't make any fucking thread but those.

I swear if it was up to you and the janitor there wouldn't be a single thread but those 6 things.

165 threads and you never cease to stop bitching, even to allow something that would contain and keep away a lot of the user-base you hate from you, like NEET threads.

[下げ No.]

>>11578815
This is the cancer killing /b/

下げ in all fields.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578817
I'm teablogger not OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578825
2009 /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578831
Pre-2011 /jp/ had the worst tripfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578826
This is the biggest issue with this board. People are too fucking afraid of letting new kinds of threads happen. They're too engrossed in the ever-repeating cycle of garbage that they're so used to. People don't say 'autists hate change' for nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578792
>list all the problems you found on this board.
People can't take it easy anymore.
People don't post 70% sage anymore.
People (newbies and visitors from other boards) whine incessantly about "crossboarders" and posting habits and video games, thus contributing more pointless posts.
People forget this board was made to get away from /a/ and /v/ and want to bring /a/ and /v/ here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578810
2ho are as relevant to this board as any anime does, and i have to say neither does dolls nor shit vocaloid are board related. more than half the stuff on this board right now are supposed to be spam.
otaku culture should be w/e stuff otakus are interested in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578836
Everybody's gotta have something to hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578826
>keep away a lot of the user-base
>NEET threads
The only reason I'm on /jp/ today is because of an /r9k/ thread advertising NEET generals several years ago, back when I used to browse the board as a stupid teenager. Your post is fucking nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578831
>etcetera
>clear direction of the board

[Anonymous No.]

It's like we were discussing with asuka spammer why he fucking spams stupid shit screencaps and the threads deleted. That is self-moderation. Janitor is anti-self moderation and anti-anon culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578840
Fair enough, making sage invisible was the worst idea ever. Why is this board still called weaponized /a/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578818
a good janny is a dead janny

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578845
>That is self-moderation.
What, how is that self-moderation? He accomplishes exactly nothing except waste his own time.

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>>11578826
>>11578839
New kinds of what threads? What else goes on this board? This is not /m/, kaiju and tokusatsu and Votoms don't go here. We don't need any new daily dose shit thread like the dog hoop or morning already ones. Shit about Japan itself belongs in /int/.

What sort of threads could possibly be added without going outside the purpose of the board?

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>>11578846
Because this is the extent of the shit moot gives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578846
It's been this way for over a month, when is moot gonna fix this shit? We could just spam the board with some stupid bullshit until janny quits, moot changes it back, or deletes the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578851
Asking him why he's spamming and telling him to fuck off because even the janny haters think it's autistic bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

Just look at this. Sanae thread gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578853
laundry otaku
bridge otaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578851
Not him but I think we make him think about it, sometimes he stops himself from posting, I think we are giving him a good therapy.

>>11578845
Don't forget to push that nerd into the wall.

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>>11578853
>This is not /m/, kaiju and tokusatsu and Votoms don't go here.
Why not? Why do Touhou and VNs go here when they're blatantly /v,vg/ topics? And kigs and figs even though they belong on /toy/? Mahjong goes on /tg/ and idols on /s,mu/. This board serves no purpose but the discussion of vaguely ota related topics that can not be discussed elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578862
Figs are specifically banned from /toy/.

Sadly nobody actually talks about them here anymore. No big surprise there though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578858
That is a beautiful fancy looking washer.

[Anonymous No.]

Bait successful. Thank you for participating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,1
domo ^___^

[Anonymous No.]

how hard was this thread cleaned

[Anonymous No.]

Quality random deletions as always

[Anonymous No.]

Goodbye meta thread! Come back soon!

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578840
>People forget this board was made to get away from /a/ and /v/ and want to bring /a/ and /v/ here.

This board was made to take content off /a/ that wasn't anime or manga. They still talk about a ton of stuff like figs, VNs, and other otakool consumer goods though.

>>11578843
I don't know if you're misinterpreting what I wrote, or you're saying that NEET thread dwellers aren't a valid part of the /jp/ userbase.

It was just an example regardless.

>>11578853
Stuff so variable it couldn't be defined in subjects. For example, original or unique threads.

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>>11578866,5
Where are we even supposed to discuss meta now? Not at all? Gee, I wonder who's behind this.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

Something pretty odd about the selected posts that were deleted before the thread was. Is the janitor trying to tell us something?

By the way, hi janitor, I know you're here, I wish you would talk to us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,6
> They still talk about a ton of stuff like figs, VNs, and other otakool consumer goods though.
Because they don't have shit moderation.

>NEET thread dwellers aren't a valid part of the /jp/ userbase.
Ronery threads have been part of /jp/ since day one and came straight outta /a/.

>original or unique threads.
This is 4chan you're talking about. You're starting to sound like moddy.

[Anonymous No.]

We are waiting for you at http://8chan.co/otaku/index.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,8
I don't know why he keeps doing that since everyone just evades. It's like he's trying to sweep them off the board but he really can't so why doesn't he just delete the thread? I made a post 30 seconds after being muted. Come on, janny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,8
>Is the janitor trying to tell us something?
No. Janitor's bases his moderation policy on ``rekking'' people. He's addicted to X/B buttons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,7
Moot's deletion of /q/ was perfect timing for everything. I think it's a jewish conspiracy.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578866,11
Being perfectly honest, 15 minute janitor bans annoy me far more than any actual ban. 15 minute ban isn't long enough to bother evading, just long enough to annoy you. He probably knows that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,14
>15 minute janitor bans annoy me far more than any actual ban. 15 minute ban isn't long enough to bother evading, just long enough to annoy you.

The entire reason Moot put them in

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,14
Just reset your IP through your browser if your router supports that. Takes 10 seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's all go back to /a/ and drive away the normies!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,17
I wish I still liked anime enough for that. Or maybe I don't.

[None !4Pq7ZkSFpA No.]

>>11578866,16
Have to go to the router webpage, click on the mac tab, change it, get up and manually unplug/replug my modem, then wait at least like 60 seconds.

My old modem I didn't have to reset it, this one it won't reconnect to my ISP unless you do, and you can't reset it remotely. It's also far longer to re-connect and get a new address, at least 60 seconds.

Hence, pain in the ass. I miss evading within 20 seconds and never getting up,

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,19
brigs please unignore

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,17
I tried to go to /m/ but I got rejected by them, they told me Z Gundam was shit and that I should watch Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,21
Wow, they're mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,21
lol it has the "i came here to laugh at you guy" on the cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,18
Before /jp/ I used /a/ even though I don't like anime. That's not the point. It's what janny doesn't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,22
I'm not kidding, I asked if they liked Gao Gai Gar and they told me: "You should watch Code Geass and Gundam Seed Destiny before you start talking about old shit."

>>11578866,23
Yeah, Char. I'm replying to you in case that you were being unironic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,25
Wow, I didn't know /m/ was full of faggots. I would've expected them to be better than /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,4
The only problem with them is that there aren't enough.

[Anonymous No.]

counter shitposting doesnt work because we dont actually care

[Anonymous No.]

I love how janny went through the thread specifically targeting any mention of "janitor" first.

>>11578798
Posting the word "drive" with a capital D is now spamming/flooding top kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,29
Me too, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,29
Even worse I don't even usually post about Driving.

[Anonymous No.]

A proper janitor would delete the entire thread right away for being meta.

A janny replies to the thread and blocks anyone who disagrees with him, only nuking the thread dozens of posts later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,32
oh oh i've heard of these they're called "honeypots"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,33
a janitors role is not to make honeypots and it doesnt make sense anyway because everyone evades

[Anonymous No.]

It's "honeypot" only when the janitor wants it to be a honeypot. There are plenty of instances where pure meta/blogging threads were kept alive for days simply because the janitor liked them and posted there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,34
there's at least one guy posting on-topic shit in warosu i don't know if he's banned and static or just hiding his pots from the janitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,35
not just meta/blogging threads he conversation shapes any thread he wants arbitrarily deleting replies under guise of the quality posting rule.

>>11578866,36
irony posting but what isnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,26
They're still better than /a/. In fact I think /a/ is probably the worst board to talk about otaku culture, everyone is a tripfag and all want to give their opinions about something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,36
I occasionally post on ghost if I'm banned and too busy or too late at night to mess around changing my MAC

Anyway, I have to wonder how the other janitors feel about evil janny. Does his extreme prejudice put pressure on them to delete things they normally wouldn't? Does he bully them? Are they friendly with each other or is he even ostracized by his fellow janitor staff? It would be great if one of the lesser evil janitors commented on it but I know only evil janny is stupid enough to come here and defend himself

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,32
Meta threads are the best of all. I guess they don't fit in the moot'she agenda because they make people realize what kind of shithole they're actually spending the majority of their time on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,39
>I have to wonder
I don't think anybody cares about what he does. What I think happens is, when people complain, a mod quickly checks the deletion log, notices all the deleted asuka screenshots and says "Keep up the good work, John!" and then dismisses the complaint.

I can't speak for others, but I honestly don't give a single feel about how many niggy.avi he deletes every day. I can ignore those. What I can't ignore though is perfectly on-topic threads getting trashed because of insane nitpicking.

Wrecking Trevor 24/7 isn't what makes a good janitor. Fairness and consistency is what makes a good janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,42
Somewhat unrelated but here's a scenario:
There's no janitor or he only deletes blatant spam. Someone makes a thread about something not often discussed here, let's assume it's somewhat weeaboo territory like Japanese streets. Someone feels threatened by it and decides spamming it and samefagging his posts with counter-replies, maybe even someone else chimes in. What would you do? Does that mean you can't discuss whatever some autist deems unrelated to the board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,43
Posts are easy to ignore. I'll never understand why people hide threads and filter trips, like it's so bothersome. Some idiot spamming in your thread doesn't prevent you from posting about whatever you want to post about unless he's flooding the thread with kopipe spambots or delayclose and that's something that is actually against the rules.

Posting "Man it would be fun to Drive a Reimu!" doesn't derail a thread.

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>>11578866,43
Fairness and consistency. If you allow japanese streets, then you shouldn't nitpick on other much more on topic threads.

This way you cans safely babysit whatever borderline topic you want because it's consistent. It's consistent because "Sure I allow japanese streets, but I also allow you to blog a bit about Halloween, about which touhou wud you fuk, about android games, about Futaba, about 2ch memes and plenty of other niche, albeit not exactly 500% top quality topics".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578784
>IRC
Heh, as expected of a normie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,46
Because you think that's social interaction? What do you think 4chan is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,19
>Year of our lord 2013
>STILL connecting to the internet through stone-age devices known as modems

There's simply no excuse. Is that why /jp/ is so shitty? Tech-illiterate people are the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,45
I see no unfairness or inconsistency in allowing people to seriously talk about a board-related topic in a dedicated thread while disallowing complete off-topic (Halloween) or blatant spam ("which 2hu"). Nothing else you mention gets deleted, so I don't know what's your point in bringing it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,49
Japanese movies are not board-related? Yesterday's thread was deleted after a few hours of people showing how malicious and autistic they can be. You can't discuss it on /tv/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,49
jav thread
halloween NEET thread
movie thread
random 2hu threads

lasted until day shift janny got on

scattered reply deleting like in idol thread where its only ok to shit talk each others idols and even in this thread he tried to shape replies but it didnt work so he deleted it


>>11578798
shit like this is

and theres still plenty of gray area and offtopic threads up right now that have been up for hours its completely inconsistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,50
Janitor deleting threads he's tired of cleaning up is certainly a malpractice, but it's hardly inconsistent. He deleted it because he gave up on salvaging it, not because he disallows the topic. You should still be blaming shitposters first.

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>>11578866,52
why is he cleaning them up whats so bad about the replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,51
What's the problem with JAV and movie threads exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,49
>Nothing else you mention gets deleted
Right, the moderation is perfectly fair and consistent. Only off-topic threads get deleted and no off-topic garbage gets a free pass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,54
i dont know ask janny

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,52
Nobody asked him to clean up anything. If he doesn't want to do it then all he has to do it leave it alone and let some other janitor handle it.

Exactly like nobody asked him to "condense" anything. Really, it's like his version of a perfect board consists in one page of "Generals" + off topic stuff he likes. So in the end you'll have 1 VN General, 1 Idol General, 1 Touhou General, 1 Random Online Games General, maybe 1 KanColle thread, + some random off topic garbage the janitor usually likes to discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

The worst part is that it's inconsistent. You can get banned for something that was fine a day or a week ago, or the other way around. It's fucking infuriating, because the only ones who suffer are the posters who want something else than the 100th H!P general or some other shit that's on the first page all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,57
>Nobody asked him to clean up anything.
My report button says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,57
>nobody asked him to "condense" anything

Oh really? Because I see plenty of threads consisting of a dozen or so "go use the existing thread" replies followed by "oh, sorry, I'd delete if I could" by OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Idiots complaining about moderation policies make my penis hard

[Anonymous No.]

''generals¨ killed /jp/ and 4chan in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,59
>>11578866,60
Catering to shitters?

On-topic threads don't need any condensing. /jp/ is a slow board, "Generals" only make somewhat sense on fast, shittastic boards like /v/ or /a/.

[No.]

>>11578866,63
I think they make plenty of sense on slow boards, if you have all of four people posting in four different threads each going "bump, bump, REALLY GUYS NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT x?" then you have an equally large problem, if not bigger.

>Catering to shitters?
How is reporting shitposts a bad thing?
Or wait, don't tell me. You actually think you're doing something good for the board by spamming it?

Please, just kill yourself already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,62
It's just the nomenclature that pisses you off. "Trains thread" is fine while "Trains general" ticks you off. I agree, though, it sounds very /v,vg/ /a/ like. The problem with these threads is that people try to continue them endlessly after they've had their run. You can have a Japanese streets or music or trains or Ar Tonelico thread every couple months but as soon as people try to chain them that it gets annoying. Having threads just for the sake of having them is not the intended purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>"bump, bump, REALLY GUYS NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT x?"
Doesn't happen unless nobody actually wants to talk about it. Generals naturally occur without being labeled general eternal thread #OO

But that doesn't even matter. The natural flow of ``conversation'' is destroyed by oppressive moderation. That's the only problem. If all the splinter board threads were allowed back here we would be in a good state. As it is post rates are declining alongside quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,64
>bump, bump, REALLY GUYS NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT x?
This doesn't happen. What happens though is threads getting deleted simply because there was already a thread using the same character image for example.

>How is reporting shitposts a bad thing?
Reporting because you don't like it is a shitter behaviour.
Shitters like you probably report every single touhou, idol, kancolle thread just because "muh condensing".

No, people shouldn't be afraid about making on-topic threads. Unless there is a real problem with spam.

[Anonymous No.]

Cry some more, nerds.

I'd literally suck meido's cock right now out of gratitude for rustling your butts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,67
>No, people shouldn't be afraid about making on-topic threads.
I don't have much motivation left to make them because people just take shits all over them because they feel like I'm threatening their precious little playground they created by shitflooding threads they don't like. This results in the same shitty threads about the same shitty topics people have talked to death already, an eternal cycle of shit that's impossible to break out of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,65
>as people try to chain them that it gets annoying. Having threads just for the sake of having them is not the intended purpose.
I agree, it seems like nobody cares to take breaks from something to make it better.
I mean after a couple of days or a week, it feels so good to start a thread you like and run with it.

>>11578866,66
>Generals naturally occur without being labeled general eternal thread #OO
Saving this for ,67

>The natural flow of ``conversation'' is destroyed by oppressive moderation.
I'm gonna assume by your tryhard `'quotes,] that you're being ironic.

>That's the only problem. If all the splinter board threads were allowed back here we would be in a good state.
What kind of threads go on in those splinter boards?
The only times i've looked were anime screencaps and blogging. There has been the occasional on topic thread that occurs on /jp/ as well, but we're not counting those are we?

>>11578866,67
>This doesn't happen.
No, because refer to above. Luckily people aren't THAT stupid and can somewhat organize themselves. Unfortunately they start to tack on words to the threads so the rest of them can find it, and that word "general" seems to infuriate the lot of you.

>Reporting because you don't like it is a shitter behaviour.
I agree.
However reporting shit because its rule breaking helps the board.
Guess what? I'm inclined to believe you haven't made a single decent topical post in weeks.

>Shitters like you probably report every single touhou, idol, kancolle thread just because "muh condensing".
I don't like Kancolle, so I hide the one or two threads that happen. I do report the fourth fucking Sanae thread that pops up, because seriously that starts to get into the "WAAH WHERE IS EVERYBODY" territory I mentioned earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,68
Get caved, janniboya.

[No.]

>>11578866,69
Ugh, seriously.
last time I tried to make a decently fun thread it got shat all over and ended up getting deleted. these faggots here are why we can't have nice things

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,66
>The natural flow of ``conversation'' is destroyed by oppressive moderation.

Oh, my mistake, I though it's destroyed by shitposters flooding everything with spam and "*whips dick*"-style replies.

>If all the splinter board threads were allowed back here we would be in a good state.

Good luck with that. All "splinter boards" are dead. Not merely pure shit, simply dead.

>>11578866,67
>What happens though is threads getting deleted simply because there was already a thread using the same character image for example.

You forgot to mention OP asking staff to delete the thread for him once he realizes it's unnecessary.

>Unless there is a real problem with spam.

Guess what.

[Anonymous No.]

why can't janny just take it easy? the japanese movie thread was fine. it wasn't even shitposting, it was just pretty lame ''''banter''''. /jp/ doesn't need to be a precious hugbox where 100% of all replies are totally on topic and considerate of the feelings of the other posters

>>11578866,64

you forgot to put anonymous back in the name field after pretending to be the janitor again. why are janny and his friends so stupid? :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,71

Sperg some, your tears are delucious

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,74
> /jp/ doesn't need to be a precious hugbox where 100% of all replies are totally on topic and considerate of the feelings of the other posters
We kind of lost that priveledge after the entire board was completely unsalvagable to the point of every thread being deleted from a mental breakdown.

Blame yourselves, for ruining for the rest of us, not the janny that probably had a brain aneurism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,70
It's up to people to organize themselves. If you make a duplicate thread and nobody responds, then it's only your fault. But once again, people shouldn't be afraid of making fresh, on-topic content. And I'm not even talking about Sanae image dumps. I'm talking about the general trend of "condensing" every single topic the janitor doesn't care about.

It's a fact that Jonny like his online games, this is why the PSO thread wasn't redirected to the "Netoge" general. And I'm pretty sure you can freely make another thread about some other mmo and it won't get the "condensing" treatment.

Same for today's Halloween meta, which wasn't condensed into the previous Halloween "general".

Any other topic will get nitpicked and recto-condensed.

>I'm inclined to believe you haven't made a single decent topical post in weeks.
What about you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,73
>Guess what.
Guess what, the only problem is how inconsistent and unfair the way janitor handle his imaginary "spam" issue is.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is shit because there are few decent posters left.

You think it's a moderation issue? 2011 called, it wants your shitposts back.

Keep crying fagets

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,79
Guess why. Inconsistent moderation and terrible posters malicious enough to shit up everything that is trying to break the trend of the eternal flood of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,73
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%22*whips+dick*%22
That's really not what I would call spam and deleting/muting/banning only encourages it. It's not hard to ignore unless you have some neurotic obsessive need to organize things like the day janitor.

Splinter boards are not dead. They are slow because there are so many. That's why /jp/ is so slow now. The users have mostly left. That's what moderation has brought. The first page right now feels alien compared to even just last year. Maybe that isn't bad but it's definitely much different from what it was.

There isn't a "real problem with spam". Anon Talk was a real problem with spam. Asuka spammer is some autist who posts a screencap a couple times an hour. I don't think anyone else actually spams.

>>11578866,76
That would have fixed itself. It really would have. Why do you think generals became what they are? It's to deal with "shitspam" or what you want to call it that floods fast boards. Generals were created to keep consistent cliques going through all the other threads. During that time we had 2hu generals, idol generals, kig generals, tea generals, things like that and what has survived as today's do not delete legacy threads? Those same topics that survived through 2011 shitspam. Except they weren't called generals for a while. They've always existed. If there is call to discuss something, it will be discussed, even with mass shitposting. When it's forced you get regular forum type users not the users who enjoy the transient threads that exist on imageboards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,80
Let's play your game. Show me a thread that was undeservedly shitted up by a flood of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,82
The movie thread yesterday for one. It may not have been a flood of shit but one or two pretty dedicated autists that shat it up enough for the retarded Janny to delete it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,80

Yeah keep blaming the moderation. I mean, that's why we have so many quality posters here on the ghost side rite? Since it's unmoderated and all.

Good posters left because there better places talking about their interests. Firing every janitor and mod is not gonna change that.

You made your own bed now fucking lie in it. At least it's a warm place to shed your tears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,82
>undeservedly

Did you just imply that some threads are being deservedly flooded with shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,85
Yes, as they have occasionally been on every board in the history of imageboards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,84
Moderation and post quality are the cause of the problem. Good posters leaving for other places the symptoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,83

I posted some shit in the thread, then posted some on topic discussion. the on topic discussion far outweighed the handful of shitposts. janny prunes the shit then thinks, "hey fuck it. I don't like Japanese movies anyway. *deletes whole thread*"

why am I responsible for the janitor being a retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,86
Lel, okay. Self-moderation, am I right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,83
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11577003

This? Where is the flood of shit? There are a few shitposts midway through and it wasn't deleted until many hours after while nobody was shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,89
Yeah - the kind of moderation that keeps imageboard culture alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,84
>Firing every janitor and mod is not gonna change that.
Keep exaggerating and twisting what people say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,88
There are two issues. One is Janny just being a retard and deliberately deleting things he doesn't like.
The other problem is people who post shit for epic lulz or because they are bored. It discourages people who try to make good threads from making them ever again when they notice their efforts are not welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,90
Why was it even deleted? He obviously tried to moderate it by deleting off-topic replies. And then he just deletes it? Is the guy schizophrenic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,84
>we have so many quality posters here on the ghost side rite?

Warosu is a lot more fun than real /jp/. Maybe because I don't enjoy reblogging idol/kig photos all day or spamming touhous from pixiv? Or spouting memes about kancolle I guess there's that to do too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,88
> janny prunes the shit then thinks, "hey fuck it. I don't like Japanese movies anyway. *deletes whole thread*"

More like mutes us before killing the thread.
You really think he just changes his mind mid-way? Come on, not even YOU are that stupid.

>>11578866,93
>deliberately deleting things he doesn't like.
Come on start linking or you have no arguement.

>>11578866,91
>MUH CULTURE
End yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,95

Warosu is nothing but moderation whinning, tripfag astroturfing and camwhore trolling.

The fact that you think this is any better than jp in any possible way makes me glad you don't get to say what's allowed in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,96
All muh culture is, is realizing that these imageboards are about humor not serious discussion. Nobody on /jp/ has a clue what they're talking about most of the time and when they do it's about really weird shit like that guy yesterday who appeared to be a guru on picking up japs on skype. Even then, the discussion is lighthearted and full of humor. That's all the culture is, it's not some anonymous legion bullshit. It's understanding that we aren't trying to write an academic paper here post by post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,95
So you enjoy meta, whining about janitors and roleplaying as Trevor. Much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,96
>Come on start linking or you have no arguement.
Start linking what? He can delete absolutely anything using the global rule 6.

Things he "doesn't like" is a pretty childish way to put it. It's more about "things he doesn't have interest in".

You can make a thread about Goldfish Otakus, and if the janitor happened to be interested in goldfishes, you can be sure he'll keep the thread alive to enjoy discussing fish tanks with his fellow fish tank otakus. Then, once he's done, he'll just leave the thread untouched so some other janitor can delete it.

You have that futo thread just below this thread here. The only reason it got canned is because "nitpicking".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,96
But the movie thread is the perfect example.

>>11578866,99
Who doesn't enjoy meta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,98
>the discussion is lighthearted and full of humor

Oh, and spamming every thread you don't like is keeping this light-hearted culture alive, am I right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,97
Yeah but it's not serious. It just happens that way. Moddy and janny want /jp/ to be some kind of serious discussion board that it could never be.

>>11578866,99
It is a lot more amusing than reposting touhou pictures. Not that those threads aren't meta themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,102
Show me these spammed threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,42
I excuse half the things the janitor does which is unfair and inconsistent because there's an army of people going out of their way to make shit threads to test him, and a lot of is is wildly retarded. Like making the same thread nine times with niggy.avi, using a Touhou image the tenth time, and then crying up a storm when it gets deleted. Well, that's an overstatement, I get irritated when he shits on me or a thread I was using but a lot of the complaints really are manufactured.

>>11578866,57
It's retarded for him to delete threads because he's tired of cleaning him but since /jp/ is a shit board with stupid autistic fucks who have nothing better to do than shit up threads for half a day three days running (somebody really fucking hated that Kancolle thread) or argue about fucking nothing for hours on end, yeah, it's perfectly possible for someone to utterly derail a discussion just by posting inane shit nonstop. For example, the Japanese cinema thread and the "Touhou is shit because RNG" thread a while back were both samefagged to high heaven by someone (probably the same someone) who had never played EoSD or watched Tokyo Story, probably the same someone, who was arguing and stirring up shit just for the sake of stirring up shit.

The movie thread went from completely retarded to completely retarded. It was not a good thread. It also isn't a thread that should have been deleted, but it was utter shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,95
So what is it that you enjoy posting about? How normies are ruining everything and the janitor is retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,105
>I want serious discussions on 4chan!!
How old are you? Mentally counts too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,107
They don't have to be serious. They just have to not be completely retarded. Watching people who know what they're doing discuss a thing is still more interesting than watching a shitposter try and troll on-topic posters by acting like a deliberate retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,106
>janitor is retarded?
This ones an amusing topic for sure. Although more fun to show by manipulating threads.

I just like humor. I don't come here for "serious discussion". It's all cool if "serious discussion" occurs but trying to force it only drives users away. See post rate decline.

>>11578866,108
The whole fun of 4chan is acting like a retard. It's what's been mostly lost but remains here on the ghost board. I don't expect ya'll serious discussers to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,107

Not the guy you're replying to, but I facepalm everytime I see this retort to someone who can actually hold a discussion instead of just dropping a couple of lines with greentext on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,105
>I excuse half the things the janitor does
I don't. There's no excuse to act like the shitters he is fighting against.
/jp/ is the only board where you have to deal with both the shitposters and the janitor. It's a Shitter eat Shitter world. And again, I don't care about his crusade against Trevor, or his fight against "people who try to get him".

If it's on topic, it stays. Or at least you wait some time to see where the thread is heading before consulting your "Pretexts I can use to delete stuff" checklist.

Bitching does help though. At least now Touhou doesn't get crucified on sight. I bet his blood boils whenever he sees a new Touhou related thread popping up.
All those shitty threads pushing out his meta and mmo generals (´･ω･`) I sometimes feel bad for janniboi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,110
I faceplam every time I see someone complain about thread replies when they're so easy to glance over. It's a succinct response to a childish outlook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,109
Serious discussion does not occur outside people's dedicated generals because outside of a general's safe harbor, people go out of their way to shit up serious discussions with retarded shit. >>11578866,69 put it well.

>The whole fun of 4chan is acting like a retard.
There are plenty of places where acting like a retard is encouraged. /s4s/ was made for it, and /vg/ and /a/ are half-defined by people throwing shit at each other like monkeys if you need an "on-topic" board to do it in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,109
This is some good shit if you believe 'serious' discussion drives users away and not posters like you that take big steamy dumps over someone's effort to make this board a better place. You and people like you are the reason this board is a wasteland of shitposting and crapflooding, I hope you like it here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,104
Well, how about >>11164836 and >>11458929? How do you explain those?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,115
The second one is a huge can of worms, but as for the first one - did you read that pastebin? People saw it as one person (named Y10NERDY) trying to hijack the threads with a foreign community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,111
You only have to deal with janitor if you're a shitposter. It's simple like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>The whole fun of 4chan is acting like a retard. It's what's been mostly lost but remains here on the ghost board. I don't expect ya'll serious discussers to understand.

Fuck you. You and your cadre are everything that's wrong with /jp/ and warosu.

I couldn't care less since these two are past salvation point, but don't ever set foot on the boards I still enjoy. I hope you grow out of acting like a retard ine day to realize what's actually good about using 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

the irony is that only new posters participate in meta threads :-)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,115
Didn't moot specifically make a board for con shit? Not like it didn't belong on /a/ or /cgl/ before that. The first thread is a perfect example, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,117
Bullshit. He deletes valid threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,121
He also rescues threads from drowning in a huge pile of irrelevant garbage, so it's a wash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,116
Them damned crossies trying to talk about things on our pure and pristine shitposting board, am I right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,113
The generals hardly have serious discussion. Most are image dumps and meme shouting. After the first couple of generals on a topic it devolves into the same garbage you hate. That's all good, though, it's easy to ignore. I don't want any threads removed that aren't actually against the rules. That only retards growth and overall happiness.

Can you provide some of these flooded threads? They seem like a myth to generate janny support.

>>11578866,114
Why do you assume I take dumps on threads? I haven't helped spam out a thread in years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,102
>Oh, and spamming every thread you don't like is keeping this light-hearted culture alive, am I right?
Yes. My face when I imagine you being butthurt next time I turn on my delayclose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,124
Because you encouraged it, obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,125
see: OP's comparison about playgrounds
at least something you have control over in your failed life, am I right? :-)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,119
This whole thread is irony.

>>11578866,118
Uneducated NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,127
My face when I didn't even read this thread. My face when you are already made before I have even started spamming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,124
Most of the generals are mostly garbage, but if you want to have a serious discussion, you can. People in generals love it when a serious discussion occurs because it breaks up the dreadful monotony. But if you try to have a serious discussion in a new thread shitposters flock to it because it's a new thread to shit in. Doubly so if it's nominally off-topic.

>Can you provide some of these flooded threads?
I barely keep track of them, but I suppose I can start keeping records. I do remember >>11550619 getting utterly shit on, which is utterly typical of shitposter /jp/ encountering anything they don't like or understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,122
Show these threads goodposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,120
>con shit

You know who was a guest on that con? You know what people wanted to talk about and couldn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,129
go ahead if that what makes you happy, I'm past caring about anything on this moat anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,133
brigs please ungignore ne...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,130
Show me these shit flood threads, goodposter.

You can discuss whatever you like wherever you like. Unless the janitor doesn't want you to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,133
It's not like you ever did, /a/friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,135
see >>11578866,115

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,136
What a random retort

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,122
I don't care about that. I won't blame him if he didn't babysit my threads or threads I care about. I would be upset if he deleted potentially good on topic threads though.

Was this guy a shitposter too?
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11578107

How about this?
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11575076

Or this?
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11567823

Or this?
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11567810


He's very quick to label content as "shitposting". Unless of course it's about content he has interest it. He generally likes video games, mmorpgs and meta discussion. I wonder how he felt when NEET blogging threads were suddenly disallowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,138
>random

Oh, don't play dumb. The "moat" part gave you away, /a/friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,135
I linked you a thread. The Japanese cinema thread that's been mentioned a couple times is also a decent example. Last week someone tried to demolish the Kancolle thread for six hours straight. There aren't particularly many examples on any given day because most threads are either the same safe, approved-topics, or made by spammers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,137
>con thread
Trolling moot. Deserved. This is pure unadulterated /jp/.

>ASCII spam
As I said previously, ASCII spam is real spam/flooding. That's not what anybody in this thread is complaining about being deleted. I've never seen someone complain about a genuine ASCII flood or delayclose being deleted/banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,140
Do they call /jp/ that? How do you even know? You're not an /a/-goer, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,139
First and third are retarded deletions. Second thread was deleted because it was going to be a shitfest, nobody was going to discuss anything other than fucking Teto's dog vagina or whatever they made it about in that thread. Fourth thread was almost certainly started by someone for the sole purpose of stirring up shit in the third Kancolle thread of the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,144
>it was going to be
That's the problem. You don't delete things because you think they are going to become shitfests.
But, well, that Teto thread got covered in shit pretty quickly, so I guess deleting it kind of made sense.

>was almost certainly
"They are out to get me!"
If it turns to be shit and is unsalvageable, then I guess he can delete it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,139
>>11578866,144
Also note that the third thread got remade with a more descriptive OP and no shitposting codewords - and safely fell off page 10 a few days later. A solution to consider in the future if you actually want to have threads and not just complain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,145
Well, yes, it was a shitfest and wasn't ever going to be anything other than a shitfest. I suppose both parts are important.

>If it turns to be shit and is unsalvageable, then I guess he can delete it.
I guess so? I just don't really care about such a deletion, since it was the fourth thread anyway.

[Jesus T. Christ, The Reawakened Apparition of Judgement No.]

>I understand now what moot meant with this being a containment moat.
>2013

Yeah, you're about 5 years late to realize that kiddo.

Unironically complaining about /jp/ moderation is the hallmark sign of a newfag of the highest degree. Learn to spam Ron Paul or something similar to piss off the janitor. Talking about him directly only makes his epeen bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,142
Yeah, you sure trolled moot, who was nowhere near the board at the time, into stratosphere. Not the people who wanted to talk about ZUN visiting America for the first time. Good job keeping /jp/ full of culture!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,149
Asspained moderator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,146
>shitposting codewords
Nitpicking. There was nothing shitposty about that thread, not even among the replies. It just got shat on by the janitor the moment he spotted it.

This kind of isntarape doesn't seem to happen to quality meta threads like the "How did I done on Hellowen, /jp/?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,146
Deleting a thread because he used a "bad word" is completely retarded and the highest form of retarded, arbitrary moderation. The global rules page mentions privilege, too. Hurry, somebody call moot and tell him to ban himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,148
Fucking kill yourself for real.

[Jesus T. Christ, The Reawakened Apparition of Judgement No.]

>>11578866,148
You know not what you speak, child.

I forgive you.

[Jesus T. Christ, The Reawakened Apparition of Judgement No.]

>>11578866,153
You know not what you speak, child.

I forgive you.

[Anonymous No.]

When 90% of all new threads are shit, I would not wait to see what those 5% percent in the gray area will turn out if I was the janitor.

This is a situation you faglords set up for yourselves. Try making a thread with more effort next time. Check the catalog to see if there's not a thread for it already. Ignore the first shit posters and keep insisting until discussion picks up.

And if it gets deleted anyway, shrug and go on with your life. Is it really so important to discuss japanese movies on jo that you need to cry like a faggot and shitpost because boohoohoo janny is out to get you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,152
How about...? Wait, maybe, just maybe... he made a mistake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,147
>I just don't really care
I do, because it was the first non-general KanColle thread I saw. And it is a good change from the usual, try-hard, stale and necrobumped threads /jp/ is filled with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,146
Whether a thread gets remade has nothing to do with whether the original deletion was remotely justified - which it wasn't.

The fact that anybody still bothers to repost deleted threads at all is actually amazing, since all the "good posters" are afraid of getting shit on by the Nazi in charge for reposting a deleted thread, and the "bad posters" don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,154
>>11578866,155
See here, fake T spams his ironic nonsense and I don't care because I'm not a neurotic obsessive like the janitor. There's humor in it and it's only text. It increases the board quality if anything. If he did that on the jay it would be gone real fast for no real reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,148
>replying to the original thread
LEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,156
>boohoohoo janny is out to get you?
But that's exactly what drives^[1] most of the deletions nowadays.

"boohoohoo shitposters are out to get me ;_;"

_________________________________________________
^{[1] This isn't a shitpost but a poroper usage of the verb "to Drive"}

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,157
Then everyone should give him endless shit for it. It's what he signed up for.

>>11578866,158
There have been a few. They never go anywhere. I actually like Kancolle and my hopes for that thread being remotely interesting were next to none.

>>11578866,160
If the shitposters wanted to turn this into a four-digit-reply milks-brigs-trevor no-holds-barred free-for-all complete shitfest, the conversation we're having now would die out in short order.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,156
>i've been here all summer! i know what's best for neo-/jp/!

do the janny defenders ever actually make any threads or contribute anything to /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>unironically living

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,156
Where else are we supposed to discuss niche Japanese interests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,160
Also notice that he had the courtesy to delete his first post.

Self-moderation is a lost virtue on real-/jp/. You can't even delete your own threads anymore for some undoubtedly homosexual reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>There's humor in it and it's only text. It increases the board quality if anything.

Not sure if baiting, but boy am I glad /jp/ is being spared of this comedy gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,166
You can discuss Dota on /jp/ if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,166
shrinemaiden.org/forum

oh wait, it looks just like jp rofl

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,167
The reason is because people would make threads, delete them, and then go to /ghost/ to complain that the janitor is a homosexual.

>>11578866,166
we're all waiting for you at bunbunmaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,167
He deleted it because he's a fucking retard who can't even quote properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,166

If you are too stupid to find out on your own it means those places are not for you.

It's sad because it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,163
>If the shitposters....
I still haven't seen an instance of this on /jp/ even in lax moderation hours. The shitposters seem to just like to have a laugh.

>>11578866,164
They post lots of pictures of touhous and idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,163
>Then everyone should give him endless shit for it.

And that's fine as long it does not also give endless shit every other poster on /jp/ in the process, like the current "freedom fighters". Who then act surprised everyone hates them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,171
>we're
you mean you and the other guy?
rofl

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,170
I don't care about Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,177
Then why the hell are you on /jp/? Fucking shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,178
:(

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,175
>give endless shit every other poster on /jp/
Show me the threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,174
>I still haven't seen

You must be wilfully blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,179
>:(

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,175
The original poster >>11578866,152 didn't say you should shit up /jp/, he said that what the janitor did was completely retarded. Which it was.

>>11578866,174
They rolled over the Comiket thread once, but that was as you said, just for laughs. The point is that nobody is really trying to derail this thread anyway so it's not a very good example of how threads can't be derailed if people care about the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,182
wait i meant ):<

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,171
>The reason is because people would make threads, delete them, and then go to /ghost/ to complain that the janitor is a homosexual.

An integral feature was disabled because they were using it to hurt jannie's feelings on a completely separate site?

Wow......

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,180
I did, in 130 and 141. You're just ignoring me now.

>>11578866,185
Yeah. That's just how much moot loves us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,183
Comiket derail was to drive away /a/. That is legit user moderation even if it got real confusing.

>>11578866,185
I'm pretty sure we're why /q/ was deleted, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,185
Why do you think /q/ was deleted?

Because "muh janitors!". Even though janitors are the ones who caused all the shitstorm on /q/.

[Anonymous No.]

havin meself a laff at the janny posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,187
Pretty much every shitpost can be justified because it drives away /a/ or /v/ or Reddit or just normies in general but that doesn't mean they're not shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,183
Or, you know, a mistake? After browsing through a hundred of shitposts every other thread starts to look like one. I can sympathize, I browse /jp/ too.

>just for laughs

Yeeah, shitting threads up is just for laughs!

Let's just assume Janitor deletes things just for laughs too. I'm having a good laugh when shitposts get deleted, why won't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,191
>Or, you know, a mistake?
Yes, a completely retarded mistake, which everybody should give him an endless amount of shit for. Don't like it? Resign your position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,186
The thread you linked wasn't spammed out by shitposters in some attempt to drive away topics they don't like the way it's being portrayed here. It was some no replies thread sinking to the bottom. It was salvaged into something temporarily amusing.

>>11578866,190
Pretty much, yeah. Now you're getting it. As long as they aren't destroying all discussions. Seeing as they haven't on larger boards where there is a lot more derailing happening, they couldn't even if they wanted to. Look at /a/, it has much more serious discussers than /jp/ and it also has a lot more nonsense going unmoderated. It's not the issue that it's made out to be. Day shift janny is just inept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,190
It invites /a/ and /v/, it doesn't drive them away. Those boards are full of shitposters, not goodposters. When they see what kind of epic ownage goes on on the jay they will flock to it. They already have, years ago, and still are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,164
>do the janny defenders ever actually make any threads or contribute anything to /jp/?

Just for curiosity here's the first thread I made in months.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S11565574

It's not a shining example of quality posting but it didn't get deleted or attacked by shitposters either. Or just stay here in warosu with the other misanderstood geniuses such as yourself.

If you can't at least do this much then boy are you dumb. More lurking and less whinning like a fag would help a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,190
It's ironic because a lot of the shitposting is done with Reddit and /a/v/ memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,187
>Comiket derail was to drive away /a/. That is legit user moderation even if it got real confusing.

Every deletion ever is to drive away shitposters. It's a legit moderation even if it got real confusing.

Funny how that works.

>>11578866,192
>your position

My position of a /jp/ poster?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,191
>Janitor deletes things just for laughs too
But he does. It's obvious. He browses /jp/ too. He was picked from /jp/. He obviously will be as much of a shitter as everybody else here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,193
It wasn't sinking to the bottom, it got raided by #trevor and his retarded friends within minutes of its creation. The janitor thought about cleaning it out and decided it wasn't worth the trouble.

Like with the Teto thread, the two people who actually fucking care about Teto aren't going to suddenly start posting "on-topic" if the last thirty replies are by shitposters posting about how they wish Teto would have sex with a horse or something. If you completely shit on it from the start, it's dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,194
/jp/ was the best in 2007. Ah yes, I remember that summer when all the cancerous new fags were on /a/ watching TTGL while we quietly sat here and enjoyed ourselves through goodposting and on-topic threads about Touhou. The memories just come flooding back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,195
>I like this game
>me too
>I like it too
>this game is good
Is this what you want to see every thread looking like? Happily nodding in agreement about something and hugging?

/jp/ should be a bloody place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,195
It can be because it's something the janitor likes. It's very possible he even replied to your thread.

If it was a Kantai Collection character thread with the same kind of gimmicky text, it would have been instakilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,201
That's what a good thread looks like, shitpost-kun. Nobody cares about your agenda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,201

Did you miss my "it's not an example of quality posting" point?

I wasn't even trying hard, dude. My message still stands. If you can't even do this much you aren't even trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,202
If we had two other threads about it, it might have been deleted under the "condense" policy.

The thing is that nobody uses Kancolle threads outside of the big Kancolle general. The people in the big thread aren't entirely stupid, they know that a bunch of people fucking hate the franchise and will totally shit on any frontpage thread about it. So they never bother trying to make gimmicky, fun threads in the rest of /jp/ and just stay in the shitty general thread instead. At least the retards there sometimes shut up when you flame them for being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,199
This so, so much. The more niche an interest, the less posters who care about it will post. If there are only 10 people interested, out of which 2 or 3 actually post, then it's impossible to combat one or two people samefagging the thread to death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,195

whoa nelly! calm down on the passive agressive wording dude!! you nearly gave me a bad feels and only the shitposter illuminati do that kind of thing

that thread is pretty lame, so i was right in saying that janny defenders don't contribute to /jp/, but it also contains 3 or 4 shitposts and a NSFW image. why are they still up? nobody other than janny knows.

literally auschwitz - performing for herr janny, praying that he might crack a smile and show mercy... or will his wild mood swing the other way and del??? posting on the jay is a tense and stressful experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,207
Nobody reports anything unless they think that there's some sort of effort to shit up the thread (or it's blatantly ugly, like a gaping vagina or something). I imagine one will start up in short order now that you know that the thread was made by one of those dreadful janny-defenders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,203
so a good thread has no discussion or opinions, just agreement with the OP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,208
It wasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,203
The day time janitor cares.

>>11578866,204
I make threads that aren't deleted all the time. The majority of my bans are from harmless comments inside other threads like >>11578798. I'm not arguing that niggy should be left on the front page. I just wish the janitor would stop cleaning harmless shit from threads and deleting threads without giving them a chance to develop.

>>11578866,199
It was a two word thread with a titpad. It was on par with fake T's posting. They were even posting about touhous. I don't see why any of it should have been deleted except a janitor's grudge against #trevor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,209
There's discussions and opinions and there is sabotage and crapflooding.

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,207

This post is warosu in a nutshell. Why do I keep visiting this craphole?

The joke is on me I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,209
I agree that /jp/ should be a bloody place, but the people trying to kill each other should know what they're talking about. People in the Umineko threads gave each other shit all the time but at least the people there had actually fucking played through Umineko.

But when people are just throwing shit for the sake of throwing shit and not even bothering to come up with something people can even pretend to take seriously, that's just stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,206
Why do you think there are only two or three people interested in the topic?

Moderation drove away anyone who isn't brain damaged or new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,211
It was a Touhou hijack by a banned poster. Nobody would care about fake T's threads if he just made the thread and left them alone afterwards, people care because he makes tons of them and then bumps them nonstop with dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - /a/c/v/vg/ Hug Box
"Janny will protect us :)"

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.[i]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,216
Vocaloid has never been very popular in /jp/. If anything drove the Vocaloid fans away it's because for a few years, any thread they tried to start collected a dozen shitposts and dust. I can't imagine that any of them left because the janitor was ruining /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.[b]

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.[u]

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.[o]

[Anonymous No.]

Get a load of these tryhards complaining about moderation on an archive.....

No wonder you're all virgins.[s]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,215
While I agree, posters do both. Shitposters don't shitpost all the time and goodposters don't goodpost all the time. I could say image dumpers are just image dumping for the sake of image dumping. You are probably OK with that but it's really the same thing.

>>11578866,217
Why do you think he does that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,216
>brain damaged or new

Nice self-criticism, I agree. You misidentified the cause, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,220
We've had a lot of vocaloid threads and they don't collect that much shitposting unless they start in a very "hey I've just come from /a/ and I want you to spoonfeed me DDLs and tracks" sort of way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,225
>You are probably OK with that but it's really the same thing.
Image dumps do drown out discussion but not nearly as much as a retarded troll debate does. Suppose somebody made a thread about how they enjoyed YMK, and then another poster made a huge post about how they're retarded and have shit taste. Well, fine, arguing about whether something is good or not is often interesting.

But if it's clear that the person doing the shitting never even played YMK, then it's just retarded.

>>11578866,225
Because he hates the janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,228
It's easy to shut down that kind of thing by not taking the bait but taking the bait can be as fun as genuinely arguing. It seems like you just want nod their heads in agreement at all your posts like that video game tits thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,227
And of course it's the shitposters who get to decide what's a "I've just come from /a/" way, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,229
I just said that I'm perfectly fine with people flaming the shit out of each other as long as the people doing the flaming aren't self-evidently retarded.

Watching somebody collapse because he was incapable of defending himself is far more interesting than watching somebody leave the thread because fake T shitposted it into oblivion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,230
It's up to everyone. When hasn't it been that way? Muh culture is to tell them to lurk. Janitor want to craft a happy friendly zone to enjoy the arts of Japan, or something, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,231
They're both fucking stupid but that's the fun of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,232
Evidently he doesn't or he wouldn't have deleted the movie thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,233
Actual debate is just as stupid as Trevor's shitposting parties? I can see why you don't have a problem with /jp/ being shitty, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,229
>It's easy to shut down that kind of thing by not taking the bait

Don't be naive, then they'll just "take the bait" themselves.

We have shitposters who've long realized that what they lack in wit can always me made up with volume. Moderation is the only thing that can stop them. It's really fucking simple like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>310 replies omitted

HOOOOOLLYYYY FUUUUUUUUUUUCK DO YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO READ ALL OF THIS SHIT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,236
What's wrong with that? That's what you're not understanding. You don't have to prove to the world your knowledge of YMK if nobody wants to hear it. You choose to argue with a troll. If somebody wants to samefag for hours then let them.

>>11578866,235
>Serious discussion
It's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,216

Moderation doesn't drive good posters away. Lack of it does.

We may have different definitions of what constitutes a good poster, but reslize that if your crap is not allowed on the board then you should take a hint and not post it, no matter how epic you think are.

This sense of entitlement is the problem here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,231
People flaming shit out of other people invariably exhibit self-evident retardation sooner or later when exposed to actual counterargumentation. I don't bother anymore and I assume it's the same for most people who aren't painfully new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,238
>It's hilarious.
I suppose Tokiko importing his IRC friends to microblog shitposts at each other all day is hilarious, too. After all, it got a lot of people mad, and that's what counts, right?

>>11578866,238
>If somebody wants to samefag for hours then let them.
It kills the thread. Nobody wants to follow up on a string of fifty retarded posts, whether they're deliberately retarded or just pretend retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,238
>If somebody wants to samefag for hours then let them.
That'll bore them out for the day, maybe, and then what? I sure as fuck won't have any motivation to make another attempt at discussing YMK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,239
>Lack of it does.
We must have the best posters right now, then.

>This sense of entitlement is the problem here.
Yeah, the janitor and moderator felt entitled to a shitpost free board so they come in and slowly muck it up over years. It just keeps getting tighter. Yet, we still have shitposts and we have less serious discussers than ever before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,237
No, Mr. Trevor. I expect you to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,240
I don't think it was always like that. The UFO versus SA wars were drama-infested and fucking stupid, but they were also fun to read, and both sides at least knew quite a bit about the games. These days nobody bothers to put efforts into a serious flame because 99% of the time they'll just get shitposts in response. Which leaves only the kind of people you described.

[Anonymous No.]

>people still taking "/jp/ - Shitpost Culture" seriously

LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,241
Look at him now. Do you really think moderation drove IRC crew away or is it that everybody hates them? User moderation works.

>It kills the thread. blablabla
You aren't forced to read all of it. It all disappears, anyway. I've had plenty of threads that are 800 post long or whatever and I'll start up some discussion about something or the OP or anything really. That's how it works. This isn't a web forum.

>>11578866,237
It's just me responding to myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,243
There are plenty of serious discussers, they're just hiding inside their general threads because the moment they step out they're overwhelmed by an avalanche of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,247
>Do you really think moderation drove IRC crew away or is it that everybody hates them?
Everybody hated Tokiko from day one, but he didn't leave for a year and a half. Everybody hating you is actually a bonus when your sole goal is to attention whore and piss people off. Ignoring users makes them leave when they're alone, but if they bring their own friends an external force needs to weed the mout.

>You aren't forced to read all of it.
People don't read it. They just leave the thread because they don't want to deal with it. Like I've said, nobody wants to follow up thirty posts about Teto's horse vagina with something about new release seeing as how they'll probably just get get a load of this weeb type shitposts in return anyway. And only 800-post threads I've seen recently have been absolute shitstorms like AWA, and the mega-Kancolle threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,247
>That's how it works.

That's self-evidently how it doesn't work. Nobody will bump a thread consisting of 50 shitposts because they want to talk about what OP talks about. They'll make a new one. Or just decide they're not going to succeed here if that's how the last thread looked like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,243

You have the order wrong, dude. All I said is that lack of moderation drives quality posters away (see: 2011 the lost year). It doesn't mean that strict moderation can attract good posters, it doesn't. When you ban all the shitposters and not enough contributors step up to fill the void, it leaves in yhe exact place we are right now: boring and stagnant.

But having lax moderation will not help fix /jp/. It will only recruit the same kind of users that caused this problem in the first place.

/jp/ can only be as good as its userbase is. Mods and janitors can only prevent you from shitposting. They can't force anyone to contribute.

And if you think the moderation is curbing your creativity to make acceptable threads, maybe just take a hint and realize that you were never that creative or funny or interesting in the first place.

[Not Jannie No.]

>>11578866,250
>make a new one
Deleted. Condense your threads shitposters ;)

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you "quality posters" on warosu anyway?
This is the shitposter hangout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,253
janny won't let us talk about it in /jp/ （´口｀*）

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,249
There always used to be tripfags to hate on. It was part of the board. It's part of most boards. Now there are very few and the board is shitter than ever. You're saying mods drove those trips away? There you go, moderation driving users away. I don't care how good or bad they were. Driving them away even created a relatively active splinter board. It never interfered with core "generals". You have always been able to make successful discussion threads, even now. Funposts are gravy.

If you aren't able to phrase a post well enough to generate whatever discussion you want I'm not sure it's worth reviving a thread. If it's overwhelmed with shitposts it may not be an attractive post, is all.

>>11578866,250
What's so bad about that? Also, it wouldn't be that way if the users weren't all driven off by moderation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,253
No, it's a /jp/ archive. The shitposters are just parasites here. Think of them as homeless hobos on a train station. (Driven out of their homes by merciless Janny.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,251
2011 wasn't as bad as it's made out to be. There's a medium between 2011 and Auschwitz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,256
None of the shitposters are even banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,255
Moderation didn't drive most tripfags away, they just jumped ship because /jp/ became shitty. The people like Currybutt, Tokiko, King of /jp/ who really got themselves permanently banned out of /jp/ were astounding retards anyway.

>If you aren't able to phrase a post well enough to generate whatever discussion you want I'm not sure it's worth reviving a thread.
Nobody wants to follow up forty-nine shitposts and one on-topic post with real discussion, either, especially because they'll be shitting on you the whole time for unironically enjoying weeb shit. You might as well say that if an OP gets shit on it wasn't worth much anyway.

>What's so bad about that? Also, it wouldn't be that way if the users weren't all driven off by moderation.
Remember when people shat up Komeiji's blog threads, so somebody started making clean copies which people immediately shit up, and there were almost three full pages of the same thread before somebody cleaned it out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,256
No. You're the parasite here, you fucking weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,255
What's the point of having many posters if a lot of those contribute nothing and only destroy? Quantity means nothing without quality. And the fact that you know about them being driven away is only because they adopted tripcodes to gather attention.

>If it's overwhelmed with shitposts it may not be an attractive post, is all.
They target everything that isn't in their comfort zone (read: not worthless touhou garbage and anime shitposting). Whatever they deem unfit for 'their' board, gets spammed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,258
Is little weeaboy being delusional again?

https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_op=op&search_del=yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,257

2011 is the year /jp/ stopped having the reputation of most elitist and self contained board on 4chan to being one of its biggest shitpost exporters.

That's a fucking turning point right there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,262
>none of them are even banned
>links a list of deleted threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,263
2011 is also the year that almost all the tripfags and unnamed-but-recognizable posters left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,264
>You have been banned from /jp/ for posting >>11579625, a violation of Rule 1:

>Off-topic; all images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).

>Your ban was filed on November 1st, 2013 and expires on November 4th, 2013, which is 3 days from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,265
That kind of reinforces his point

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,255
>a relatively active splinter board

Which one would it be? Warosu? It's the only one that can sometimes get active thanks to all the /jp/ people who visit to check the archive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,266
>actually replaces the 4chan link with a warosu link
autistic uberkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,268
If he's talking about the old tripfags then I can only imagine that he's talking about /bun/, but pretending that /bun/ was made to escape shitty moderation is, well, retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,259
>Moderation didn't drive most tripfags
Most tripfags have been shitposters so they did.

>Nobody wants to follow up forty-nine shitposts and one on-topic post with real discussion
Making a new thread isn't a crime. If there was nothing to discuss to that point, why not? This isn't some permanent FAQ about the present.

>Remember when
It's uncommon.

>>11578866,261
But they don't and when they do it's because janny enables them by giving them the power to del threads.

>>11578866,251
>They can't force anyone to contribute.
Then why are they trying to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,271
>Most tripfags have been shitposters so they did. Most tripfags left in the year that we had no janitor at all, just the mod who came in and fixed raids six hours after the fact.

>Making a new thread isn't a crime. If there was nothing to discuss to that point, why not?
Because people will shit on it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,271
>Making a new thread isn't a crime. If there was nothing to discuss to that point, why not? This isn't some permanent FAQ about the present.
Nobody is going to bother anymore. If you try and create content or try to incite a discussion about something and retarded shitheads come in and spam the thread to death you will just not bother with making a second attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,270
I'd assume /ota/, since it was always the shitposter's pride (has its share of tripfags, too), but it gets maybe 50 posts per day unless spammed (which is still 10 times more than /bun/).

[Anonymous No.]

>Then why are they trying to?

When your shitposts get deleted do you think the team is telling you to try harder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,274

Old /ota/ was decent, but current /ota/ is painfully slow.

Maybe people started to realize that having a free for all shitposting ground is not so great when everyone else is doing it and there's no one to be mad at you.

It is pretty much the same mistake of all 4chan copycats ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,272
Most of the time they won't unless you've worded it wrong. Stopping self thread deletes kind of fucked things up in this respect. Before at least you could self moderate. Now it's hard since you can't repost a thread quickly. It's still not as bad as it's being made out to be.

>>11578866,273
Nobody is doing that. Check ghost copies of active threads, there are few trashcans.

This is all still not what anybody was complaining about in this thread. Nobody wants real spam and /b/ shit all over the place. It's overly aggressive moderation that is the issue, not some moderation.

>>11578866,275
No, they're telling you to make ``better'' posts or fuck off and we all know that fucking off isn't an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,277
Oh please, you're just assuming out of your ass now. What you think the 'shitposters' will do does not necessarily coincide with what they're actually going to do. A proper written OP won't stop them if they dislike the topic, are bored or their mother threatened to kick them out of the house again.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ ended with the NEET exile

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,277
>Most of the time they won't unless you've worded it wrong.
They shit on your thread the first time, why wouldn't they shit on your copy? In fact, it's twice as easy now that you can do LOOOOOOOOOOOL HE POSTED IT AGAIN shit.

You could try and go to war with them by continually deleting and reposting your thread, or just making new threads to escape the carnage, but nobody actually fucking cares enough to get in a spam war with the shitposters, because then you're banking on the idea that they'll get tired of shitting up your thread before you get tired of making it, and they never get tired of shitting up threads. Like having a staring contest with a statue. You're not going to win, so why the fuck bother?

[Anonymous No.]

guys janitor seems to be away hurry up and post on jp!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,278
It does coincide if you take a look at threads. Nobody really floods anything out with shitposts but janitor often cans threads because of a couple known shitposters posting in them even if they're on topic and the posts are harmless.

>>11578866,280
Maybe you should rewrite the copy. There's a reason threads get shit on and it's not shitposters. You aren't free to discuss any topic you choose. It's up to the whole userbase. Go click 2008 and see if it's any different. This isn't something new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,277
Yeah, if the thread is targetted by shitposters, it's because it was worded wrong. It's OP's fault, not shitposters.

This is how you're defending shitposters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
This is why you're doing it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,283
I never called it moral you nitwit. It's just how it is. There are shitposts for you to clean. Get at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,282
>Maybe you should rewrite the copy.
Counting on the goodwill of shitposters is a retard's gamble.

>There's a reason threads get shit on and it's not shitposters.
It's because somebody didn't like the topic, and decided the thread had to be shitposted into oblivion.

>It's up to the whole userbase.
Two people can demolish a thread just fine. One can do it alone if he really wants to.

>Go click 2008 and see if it's any different. This isn't something new.
Threads got kopiped all the time if they had spectacularly shitty OPs, but these days pretty much any thread can get shit on in some sort of proxy war against the janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,284
>There are shitposts for you to clean. Get at it.

Trust me, I would if I could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,286
Then start getting to work on this dick instead, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

reasons why your thread might get shit on

- yet another low-quality Touhou thread
- everybody already played that years ago
- condense your threads faggot
- 3DPD disgusting get out
- looks like it was made by someone from /a/
- looks like /a/ might like this thread
- looks like normies might like it
- looks like a blog thread
- looks like its full of fedoras
- looks like the janitor might like this thread
- the janitor probably made this thread himself
- not within the strict topics laid out in the rules
- the janitor will get angry if he has to clean out a thread this shitty
- the janitor deleted my thread so now i have to shit on yours
- i bet i can get the janitor to delete this thread and then i'll be able to give him shit about it afterwards
- i feel like trolling some fags today

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,288
And we're left with the same 8 generals and the ocean of shit surrounding them

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,285
>Counting on the goodwill of shitposters is a retard's gamble.
Again, the whole userbase has always reacted to some threads this way. There are even counter sincere posts now to fuck with shitposts who are in turn fucking with all the layers and everything until it's a mess where nobody knows what's going on. But that's ok, that's what's fun about it. It's not malicious. When you make a post, you are interacting with the userbase. It's not a QA session. Why delete the threads when you can delete all of a users posts at once, anyway? Now that /q/ is gone they can't go blaming you for deleting active threads. Not in a way that's hard to explain.

>It's because somebody didn't like the topic, and decided the thread had to be shitposted into oblivion.
>Two people can demolish a thread just fine. One can do it alone if he really wants to.
Nobody is complaining about real flooding/spamming bans. It's conversation shaping and overly aggressive moderation that's a problem. I don't want to see /b/ shit everywhere, I just want moderation that understands a few funposts don't hurt anything. I'm not arguing for zero moderation.

>but these days
They really don't. Most shitposts are OPs and the ones deleted from threads are almost always harmless yet they result in a ban that's evaded 30 seconds later. It's a really ill-thought out way to deal with what you think is a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,288
3DPD is an /a/ meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,291
too bad /jp/ is full of ret/a/rds

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,292
dafuq bro
i only go to /jp/ and /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,291
Doesn't stop people from shitting on threads for it.

>>11578866,290
>Again, the whole userbase has always reacted to some threads this way.
Usually it was possible to have an actual conversation with the people kopiping up your threads so you could figure out what great crime you committed.

>There are even counter sincere posts now to fuck with shitposts who are in turn fucking with all the layers and everything until it's a mess where nobody knows what's going on.
Counter-shitposting might be useful if you want to waste even more shitposters' time, but it doesn't make the threads any better and the net result is still that the thread is a shitposter-exclusive dead zone.

>Why delete the threads when you can delete all of a users posts at once, anyway?
I don't think they use that button anymore, and even if they did I don't think janitors have access to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,290
>Nobody is complaining about real flooding/spamming bans.
You're missing his point. One or two people can easily create faux conversations ridiculing the OP or the topic he's talking about by making exaggerated 'on-topic' posts. That can go on for hundreds or posts until nobody wants to engage into an actual conversation anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,290
>I don't want to see /b/ shit everywhere, I just want moderation that understands a few funposts don't hurt anything. I'm not arguing for zero moderation.
When the janitor turns the moderation dial anywhere between /b/ and Auschwitz people start raging at him for being inconsistent (lmao he deleted this post but not that post somebody hurry up and fire this shitter) until he eventually gives up and goes full Hitler for the sake of consistency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,294
>Usually it was possible to have an actual conversation
Yeah but now the janitor deletes it before then. It disrupts the natural training of new users. Instead they think any old topic can be discussed. That's what moot wants though, so it's cool, right?

>Counter-shitposting
No, I mean like ironically translating in translate requests or providing sources or sincerely discussing something after someone makes a shitpost. Even better if you can get in there before the shitposting even starts. Those threads can turn into what you would call good.

>if they did I don't think janitors
I think they stopped in /jp/ because of conspiracies. Shitposters in control.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear, the people who post those shitty generals that no one seems to give a shit about yet have 300+ posts are in collusion with the janitor or moot to make /jp/ shitty.

Soon there won't be any non-general threads on the first page, it's all kigshit, akb, hip or whatever the fuck the flavor of the month general it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,297
>Yeah but now the janitor deletes it before then.
Actual conversations never happen, in /jp/ or /ghost/ or anywhere else. Ever. Asking a contemporary shitposter why he is shitting up your thread is a complete waste of time.

>Even better if you can get in there before the shitposting even starts.
Nobody actually wants to waste time fighting shitposters. Other than the janitor, I guess.

>I think they stopped in /jp/ because of conspiracies. Shitposters in control.
I heard they stopped in every board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,295
They've always been able to do that but it rarely happens. If they're having fun, who gives a damn? If there isn't interest to drown it out, it's drowned out.

>>11578866,296
The inconsistency is because day janitor is always in auschwitz mode while everyone else is somewhere between.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,300
>If there isn't interest to drown it out, it's drowned out.
The only threads that can muster enough consistent interest to drown out dedicated shitposting attempts are the generals. And you guys wonder why everybody flocks to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,299
Asuka spammer started explaining himself on live board but the janitor deleted it. Maybe he was drunk.

>Nobody actually wants to waste time fighting shitposters
I do sometimes. It's not really fighting. It's shitposting just the same. You mistake it for goodposting is all.

>I heard they stopped in every board.
Could be. They should start again. What they're doing now doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,302
Asuka spammer explains himself all the time but the explanation always boils down to "you're a normie and I don't like you, and same goes for the janitor."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,301
Everything else gets deleted. Unless it's X is X and variants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,303
He's been explaining it more than usual lately. Then it's deleted.

People like that aren't even a problem. He's not destroying threads, he just posts screenshots for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,304
It would happen anyway. For example, in the days before they killed the "you sunk my battleship" thread there were a couple other Kancolle threads that nobody used.

Suppose that instead of living in the Kancolle megathread, the posters just floated around the board and made new threads all the time. What would happen? Shitposters would systematically destroy attack them for being dumb /a/ uncondensed normie social shit and so on. Eventually they'd stop making new threads and just use the old ones, until one becomes bigger than the rest. Which becomes a general.

[Anonymous No.]

why do these idiots hate generals so much? Is it because they can't shitpost in there?

Fuck haters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,307
Because they're boring. /jp/ is more fun when it's got a variety of silly threads.

These days they tend to fill with people saying "wow so zany", bashed for being dumb meme shit, or fill with the usual shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,285
>Threads got kopiped all the time if they had spectacularly shitty OPs

Not really. Not on /jp/. Not until /a/ found us out, at least. You had hand-crafted insults and one-off stock "Quality thread"-type replies, but I don't recall any spam until maybe two years ago.

>>11578866,290
>It's not malicious.

Sure. You're just "having fun".

It's not like I can disprove you. That's why I'll judge results instead of intent.

>I'm not arguing for zero moderation.

You're arguing for a moderation that's inefficient and insufficient.

>>11578866,291
It's pre-split, and therefore /jp/ heritage.

>>11578866,297
>It disrupts the natural training of new users.

That's the point. The shitposters have trained themselves enough lackeys already.

>>11578866,299
Janitor powers are probably the absolute minimum you need to take on the shitposters.

>>11578866,305
>People like that aren't even a problem.

He's not a problem ANYMORE. This is an important detail you're overlooking, possibly on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,306
That's like your opinion m8.

It doesn't happen with Touhou. It won't necessarily happen with KanColle or any other topic.

Those who want to use the Generals can do so. But there's no legit reason to prevent people from making on-topic threads ouside of generals. Unless of course there is real spam problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,309
>Not really. Not on /jp/.
You're just wrong. Kopipe was the lifeblood of /jp/ before it was replaced by ironic shitposting. Started in 2011? Is this some sort of retarded joke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,298
As opposed to what? 10 pages of 10 reply brainfarts, microblogs, epic images they found on pixiv and anime screencaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,310
It doesn't happen with Touhou because nobody bothers to systematically shit up every Touhou thread ever, and there's enough massed interest to overcome it anyway.

>That's like your opinion m8.
It's something I watch happen whenever somebody makes a second Kancolle thread. The amount of conversation-shaping the janitor (killing threads that nobody fucking uses anyway) does is significantly less than how shitposters shape the board.

Here's some big differences between now and then:

- Before, the people harassing threads at some level, wanted the people they were harassing to come around and see things their way. So they actually bothered to justify themselves. Modern shitposters just want to shitpost them off the board, so they just repeat the same shit over and over.
- People actually cared about representing a "/jp/ consensus" back then, but these days people just fire randomly and assume everyone who disagrees with them also needs to be shitposted off the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,313
> Modern shitposters just want to shitpost them off the board, so they just repeat the same shit over and over.
It's funny because that only drives away /jp/'s quality posters and invites shitflooders from /a/, /v/ and /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,311
I'm just right. But it's possible to prove me wrong with a few counterexamples in form of links. If you can find them. If they exist. Go ahead and try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,314
When you realize that they think the shitflooders are the quality posters, it'll make a lot more sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,315
>I'm just right. But it's possible to prove me wrong with a few counterexamples in form of links. If you can find them. If they exist. Go ahead and try.
You're a complete retard is what you are. In most other threads I be writing you off as a clueless shitposter right about now.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp?ghost=yes&task=search2&search_ord=old&search_text=extra%20sauce

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,313
>shitposters shape the board
I report and ignore shitposters and then wait for the janitor to eventually clean the thread.

I don't need the janitor to shape and condense me into generals. I also don't need him to shape me into (off)topics he likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,314
>/vg/

Most of my 4chan browsing lately is done on /vg/ and I don't why you think they are shitposting on /jp/.

Yes most generals there are toxic but they are self contained. I don't really see them spilling over to /jp/, if anything it's the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,318
>I report and ignore shitposters and then wait for the janitor to eventually clean the thread.
If you wait, the shitposters win. The discussion has been suspended. The conversation has been shaped.

If you relentlessly insist on posting on-topic despite being beset all sides by shit-flinging monkeys, congratulations, you have a heart of iron. Most people aren't like you. They maybe report shit, maybe don't, then go do something else for a while.

>I don't need the janitor to shape and condense me into generals.
That's great, but let's face it, you weren't going to post in the "you sunk my battleship thread" anyway, and I can safely say that almost nobody was besides the usual suspects trying to troll Kancolle into the stratosphere. So I don't even know why you complain about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,317
Now show me a thread that was actually spammed, because in most of those it's literally the only off-topic reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,315
>>11578866,321
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S6166787#p6166962
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S4893392


``2011''

I started fucking aikido spamming sometimes in 2009

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,321
I guess there wasn't nearly as much concentrated spamming, it's the biggest shitfests-that-just-wouldn't-die that stood out the most in my memory and I'm looking for one now. Most of those really were one-offs in threads that were intentionally silly anyway. Guess I overstated my claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,320
>If you relentlessly insist on posting on-topic despite being beset all sides by shit-flinging monkeys, congratulations, you have a heart of iron. Most people aren't like you. They maybe report shit, maybe don't, then go do something else for a while.

You make it sound like posting on 4chan is some heroic deed. Dude, it's just a website.

Eventually good posters leave when they get overwhelmed by the shitposters. It's not the moderation that drove them away and it's not moderation that keeps them from coming back. Get this through your retarded heads.

If what you believe was actually real 2011 should have been our best year yet and warosu and ota the most amazing places on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,320
>you weren't going to post in the "you sunk my battleship thread" anyway
You don't know that. I myself can't tell if I was going to post there or not. You can't justify deletions with "you weren't going to post there anyway". Some people prefer reading others' posts for example (lurking). What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,322
Not to mention AoRF had his Nameless Fairy spambots to shit up bad threads and that goes back to late 2008-early 2009.

Why are newfriends always revisionists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,324
>You make it sound like posting on 4chan is some heroic deed.
If I make posting on an imageboard sound like a feat worthy of the Victoria Cross, it probably means I was being sarcastic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,325
Do you even know who that battleship was? I've tried to float every Kancolle-related thread outside of the general (because the general is quite shit) and they have universally sunk for utter lack of interest, other than the "2hu is declining" thread and even then people won't argue with me. I don't see why this one would be any different, which is why I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,327
Trying to hold a proper conversation outside of the 'generals' is probably nobel peace prize worthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,328
>Do you even know who that battleship was?
I don't. That's why I care about this kind of threads. It's different from the usual touhou fucking threads and other months old necro-circlejerks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,322
2010 still does not help your case much, it's not like /jp/ got shitty in one go, it surely must have taken a lot of effort. (Also, Suigin, how unsurprising,)

>>11578866,326
>AoRF

I think you mixed up your dates and boards. AoRF was launching his bots at pre-split /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>I think you mixed up your dates and boards. AoRF was launching his bots at pre-split /a/.

It was both newfriend. Who do you think started the JBCS daily dose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,330
Novelty for the sake of novelty is pretty pointless. If it's just new threads you want you can always visit another board. I see no reason how it was going to turn out any differently from any of the previous Wo-kata, Atago, or KTKM threads which got three posts and died.

It's quite possible that it was going to become a lovely thread but as somebody who has been posting in similar threads for weeks, the chances were next to none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,332
Point taken. Still, he did not kill-spam threads on /jp/ anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,333
I checked out /a/ today and this is what I was greeted with:
https://images.4chan.org/a/src/1383257956327.jpg
I think even /v/ is above images of this kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,335
Making images to parody the retarded way your board acts is something /jp/ used to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,334
Nameless Fairy was very much a /jp/ thing, too. He did it for a really long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,335
They acknowledge the problem and try to counter it. The way they chose is questionable, but intent alone I can respect.

Maybe if /jp/ still had this kind of people instead of jaded cynics, we'd have more non-shitposts on the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,338
/jp/ is the last stop in the 4chan japanese media/weeaboo chain.

[Anonymous No.]

just a nice burger with some fries and a shake it aws a good meal

what about you guys?

who lunch otaku here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,337
Certainly not as Nameless Fairy:

https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_username=Nameless+Fairy

A total of one time in April, 2008. He might have continue anonymously, but I trust my memory, and I don't remember anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,341
wasoru doesnt go back far enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,340
i'm having pizza for dinner! it's seasoned with my imagination of janny's tears

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever believes that general threads on /jp/ aren't a problem is clearly fucking deluded.

Here's a screencap of the first 23 or so threads. Circled in red are the "generals". Literally every other thread is a general. Is there anyone who will argue about this now?

http://i.imgur.com/95kvK4W.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
arguing is all over its time for linner im having a calzone

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
VNTS has been around before you, nerdling.

And fuck you for circling the OC threads.

You are the problem on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
I don't see the problem. Is it space? I don't think 10 less microblog/brainfart/animescreencap threads are an issue, considering those generals are the only place you can actually discuss those topics anymore. Making multiple threads about the same thing will get them shitflooded and pruned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344

I know right? Fuck people who want to discuss their interests in an organized manner with less shitposters around.

Think about it this way: no matter how bad you think these threads are, these people are there minding their own thing while you are here on shitpost central complaining about them.

Don't worry, the irony doesn't escape me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
You just circled the best threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
You missed the Unpopular Touhous Thread (currently in its fourth or so iteration). And it's not like the Nico, Android games and JAV threads aren't general in scope.

[Anonymous No.]

Threads which stay on for months at a time belong on a PHPBB forum, where I kindly suggest you relocate. They also have extended attention-whoring and circlejerking features which I'm sure many IRC-friends will appreciate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344
Just another reason to nuke /jp/ out of 4chan, all those threads can go to the other boards.

This board is useless, why is Moot such an asshole?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,344

wtf m8 why did you circle the flockdraw thread?
why didn't your circle the "Unpopular Touhou Thread"?

general threads are so shitty but at least know what is and isn't a General thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,351
You'd be left with 10 pages of contemporary garbage. You can find that on /ota/ or saovq already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,351
Said a guy posting in an archive full of people replying to 5 year old threads.

But don't worry, your shitposts will keep getting deleted from /jp/ in a matter of minutes, it's like you're really on /b/!

[Jesus T. Christ, The Reawakened Apparition of Judgement No.]

>>11578866,344
Thanks for reminding me to bump my Turkeyhandle Bumstead thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,351

Their circlejerks are self contained. You're grasping for straws here fag, not once have I clicked on an Idol thread, I don't have the slightest idea of what goes on in there, and they simply don't bother me. They're easy to hide and ignore.

This is what self moderation is about, not the hands-off-let-kids-be-kids shitposting ground you want /jp/ to become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,353
>>11578866,350
Yeah, I missed that one. I don't discriminate againts toowhos.

[Anonymous No.]

JANITUR JAANITUUR!

Tell ur boyfriend to stop focking around
http://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/11579512

[Anonymous No.]

feel

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,356
God why are T's alternative names so godawfully unfunny

for me the best trip names would be:

1. Y10NRDY
2. Investment Banker and !PEDO
3. Friedrich NEETzsche
4. Penis Engine Mechanic
5. tonberryking

[T-Shirt No.]

>>11578866,361
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11578866,361
>tonberryking

holy shit someone else rememebrs...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting janny a survivorman-sized package of two-ply toilet paper for Christmas this year LMAOOOOOOOO