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11451326 No.11451326 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone else taking the JLPT this december?
>going for N5

Any advices?

>> No.11451328 [DELETED] 

>>11451326
I advise you to tell me who you're quoting.

>> No.11451330

>N5
Top heh, N1 or go home ホワイトピグ

>> No.11451335
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11451335

ehhhhhhh maji N5?

>> No.11451359

>>11451326
>N5

Why are you even going?

>> No.11451360

Not to sound mean, but back when it was N1-N4, it was generally regarded as a waste of time to do N4. And now they've added N5...

But at least you're getting somewhere. Best of luck and keep at it.

>> No.11451371

Even N1 is too easy.

>> No.11451377

>>11451371
Please tell me more, moogy.

>> No.11451381

>>11451360
Is N5 thaaat easy? Sry I've got no idea... it's my first time

>> No.11451387

>>11451326
Frame the certificate when it comes so you can feel fulfilled. Also, it's okay to talk about the test on the internet after you've done it even though the jap monitors tell you that it's strictly forbidden and that they will track your IP and invalidate all the tests of the people who did the test with you. They're just bluffing. Fucking japs.

>> No.11451388

>>11451381
There are practice tests on their website. See for yourself.

Also, don't write like a retard.

>> No.11451403

I'm taking N1. I'm never going to Japan though, so I'm mostly just taking it for fun.

>> No.11451419

>N5
Christ, just save your money until you acutally reach an N* worth going to.

>> No.11451422

>>11451388
tall order that. we're on the jay you know

>> No.11451425

>>11451326
study. go away.

>> No.11451435

>>11451377
Would you consider it likely that a westerner who's been learning French for a only year to be at a high level?

Because Chinese people can pass JLPT1 in a year from scratch. It's really proves nothing other than the most superficial level of comprehension ability.

>> No.11451433

I'm applying for a Japanese exchange program, but as the JLPT is applied too far from my house I can't take it, so I'm losing the opportunity of going to the glorious nippon for some retarded guy with N4.
I wish I could take the JLPT ;_:

>> No.11451439

>>11451419
>N* worth going to
What are they coming out with like an N negative 3?

>> No.11451444

I'll take the kanji kentei

>> No.11451451

>>11451435
One of the problems with Westerns and Japanese is that they are taught kanji in the most retarded way imaginable. There are people who graduate universities with degrees in Japanese who don't even know the jouyou kanji.

>> No.11451459

>>11451326
Just curious, but what's the point in taking anything other than the N1? N5, N4, etc are all completely useless and not good for anything, so what is the benefit in being certified at that level? In my opinion it is better to take the N1. Sure, you will probably fail the first time, but you'll save more time and money attempting the N1 a couple times, than going N5 -> N4 -> N3 -> N2 -> N1.

I understand the whole, "Well I want to see what level I'm at" but it's not like you need to pay and go through the effort of taking the JLPT to see that. Just take the sample questions on line, take some practice exams etc. Personally, I'm planning on taking the EJU next year.

>> No.11451464

>>11451435
Also, even considering the issue of how Westerners are taught kanji, it isn't fair to compare a Chinese person "starting from scratch" and a Westerner starting from scratch, as the Chinese person has a significant head start.

>> No.11451468

>>11451464
>it isn't fair to compare a Chinese person "starting from scratch" and a Westerner starting from scratch, as the Chinese person has a significant head start.
His point is that just like most western languages have linguistic common grounds with French but 1 year is still not enough to reach actual fluency, the fact that Chinese can reach N1 with a year of study shows the N1 does not reflect actual fluency.

>> No.11451475

>>11451451
The bar is just too low for Westerners. The university should just be telling them "learn these 100 kanji by the end of the week", not reinforcing the students' sense of not being able to do anything without a teacher.

>> No.11451476

>>11451468
Yea, the problem with the N1, or any of the levels I guess, is that you don't actually have to write or speak anything in Japanese to pass the test. I think they should add a written essay section that must be passed in order to be certified.

>> No.11451491

It`s 日本語能力試験, not 日本語流暢試験、バカ外人ども

>> No.11451512

>>11451491
>The ability to understand Japanese used in a variety of circumstances.
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/about/levelsummary.html

Yes, it doesn't say fluency at any time.

>> No.11451518

I've been studying japanese for about a year by myself, I just did the N5 practise thing on the website just now and it's not that easy. Do I have a learning disability?

>> No.11451534

>>11451518
Whenever you tell people how long you've been studying you should also add how you've been studying and for how many hours a week.

>> No.11451545

>>11451491
But what will we use to brag about our Japanese level on the internet?

>> No.11451540
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>>11451518
When you say a year of studying, how many hours are we talking? 1 hour a week for a year? Or 3~5? If you've spent like 200 hours studying, and couldn't pass a sample test consisting of questions like this, then yes you have a learning disability.

>> No.11451552
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>>11451518
Have you been studying for about one year and you think that shit like these are hard?
What are you using to study? namasensei's video?

>> No.11451553

>>11451475
IMO they should just make a prerequisite that the student complete RTK1 before starting, or do it during the first semester. Things would move along much quicker after that.

>> No.11451559

>>11451540
For some reason the spaces and lack of Kanji make it harder to read.

>> No.11451561

Some of the N5 questions would be a lot easier if they added kanji everywhere possible.

I can read a lot more than I can listen to.

>> No.11451580

>>11451545
エロゲ語能力試験、ELPT (Eroge-Language Proficiency Test)

Sample question:
1.
田中くんは(    )に出した。
1.中     2. 膣口
3.膣内 4.内部

>> No.11451576

>>11451559
>>11451561
Shit that's all in kana is fucking hard to read. I hate that shit.

>> No.11451577

>>11451422
>sry
I've never seen anyone but a dirty stinkin crossie use terms like that for your information.

>> No.11451583

>>11451559
>>11451561
>>11451576
That's why you don't learn the fucking readings when you learn the kanji, bakas

>> No.11451586

>>11451583
If it's anything it suggests the exact opposite.

>> No.11451590

>>11451540

No thats quite easy but some particle questions i failed on.

like 2 hours a day for a year

Also I can't read hiragana fluently either, it fucking looks like bits of spaghetti and it takes a few moment to read it.

>> No.11451604

>>11451590
>730 hours of study
>I can't read hiragana fluently
what the HELL dude

>> No.11451601

>>11451580
>3.膣内

>> No.11451606

>>11451577
Dude I don't fukin care what kind of people use it, just for your information

>> No.11451617
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>>11451590
So stuff like this is what caused you to fail? If you actually studied 2 hours a day for a year and can't get this stuff or fluently read kana, then I think you weren't doing as much actual study as you think you were.

>> No.11451619

>>11451606
whoa what is wrong with you????

maybe you should finish learning english before trying to chase your weeb jap dreams

>> No.11451627

>>11451590
てめえにとってはろりげをぷれいするのはとてもたいへんそうですわ

>> No.11451637

>>11451604
Something in my brain must be broken

>> No.11451638

>>11451540
Half of the options aren't even words, Christ.

>> No.11451641

>>11451552
>>11451540
how is this test structured, fill in the blank, are they asking for the best answer, or correct spelling?

>> No.11451642

>>11451617
I have a decent grasp of grammar but my vocabulary is utterly shit and I've never really made any efforts to improve it.

>> No.11451645

>>11451619
what do you mean by "finish leaning english"?

>> No.11451647

>>11451641
1・2・3・4から いちばん いい もの ひとつ えらんで ください

>> No.11451652

>>11451627

BUT I LEARNED LOLI IS WRITTEN IN KATAKANA

>> No.11451653

>>11451617
i can't tell if he's cleaning in his room, cleaning the room, or doing room cleaning

fuck japanese

>> No.11451658

>>11451653

Thank you. Me neither.

>> No.11451666

>>11451652
Children can`t read katakana, so everything written in hiragana makes the speech more childish.

>> No.11451669

>>11451653
i can tell its past tense but I cant figure out what "souji" means

>> No.11451671

>>11451658
>>11451653
Go back to grammar 101.

>> No.11451679 [DELETED] 

>>11451671
i missed the second wo and thought it was a suru verb

not that that's any better

>> No.11451682

>>11451653
play more eroge

>> No.11451687

>>11451671
i don't think any of us have ever been in grammar 101

>> No.11451688
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11451688

>>11451669

>> No.11451700

>>11451617
弟は へや の そうじを しました。

i no japan

>> No.11451691

/jp/エロゲ検定
Vocab section:
読み
>不知火
>小鳥遊
>十六夜
>湊景明
>如月寮

>> No.11451695

>>11451669
掃除
I had to type it in the IME, I literally never saw it written as そうじ before.

>> No.11451703

>>11451688
so, clearly my vocab sucks so if I memorize JLPT1 kanji, vocab and say tae kims grammar will I be good?

>> No.11451707

>>11451590
>like 2 hours a day for a year
>Also I can't read hiragana fluently either,

this thread's a fucking disaster

>> No.11451708

Is there an JLPT kansai-ben ver?

>> No.11451719

>>11451708
arimahen

>> No.11451720

>>11451642
Not to sound mean or anything, but if you have like, very little vocab, and can't fluently read kana, what exactly were you doing for each of those 2 hours every day? Listening to some Japanese or something and calling it a day?

>> No.11451726

>>11451703
That's literally how all the elitists on /jp/ learned nihongo (because that's the fast track to being able to read galge). Go for it.

>> No.11451746

>>11451720
Oh, no, that wasn't me. My record is just about as bad, though. My total study time is around three hundred hours over the course of one year, I think.

I can read kana but have bad recall. That's literally the ABCs so it isn't worth shit anyway. My vocab is bad is because I use a dictionary tool for everything and never do flashcards.

>> No.11451747

>>11451720
That guy isnt me

But how ive been studying is mostly reading basic japanese conversations (kanji included) and going them through until i understand them, rinse and repeat. Then memorizing kanji through Anki. also listening to basic japanese convo.

I did study a beginner japanese course which I aced. But since then I havn't really done any grammar exercises.

>> No.11451755

>>11451726
im working on tae kim and JLPT kanji, eventually ill get to vocab, all through anki of course.

I think Im progressing at least as fast as I did though college classes, at least when it comes to reading

>> No.11451754

Is wanikani good for anything? Or any anki decks? I don't know but space repetition just doesn't do it for me.

>> No.11451759

>>11451754

wanikani is awesome, I loved it until i ran out of trial time and or hit the level limit. But I don't want to pay for something like that...

>> No.11451871

Is there any site/textbook with an endless amount of pratice test like the JLPT test one?

>> No.11451877

>>11451871
There are plenty of JLPT textbooks available, most of which come with some number of practice exams. Just search JLPT on amazon or something.

>> No.11451879

>>11451754
if you can afford it definitely sign up for wanikani it makes a huge difference

>> No.11451880

>>11451754

I got to level 10 before giving up. It's too slow pace for me and all I was doing was applying what I learned from RTK to remember everything.

>> No.11451883

>>11451754
I did a couple of those "learn Japanese and compete" websites for a bit, then I realized it had very little to do with your actual ability and way more to do with how much tedium you put up with. It wouldn't even let me skip past the beginning lessons.

>> No.11451911

In addition to being small, my vocabulary command is really useless. For example, the top of my head I know the words for horoscope, redemption and torpedo, but I don't know how to say words like spoon or shoe.

>> No.11451929

>>11451911
匙 and 靴

>> No.11451939

>>11451929
スプーン is probably used more often

>> No.11451945

>>11451939
My Japanese spirit doesn't allow me to use these waseieigo

>> No.11451959

>>11451879

How much is it? I can't see this being worth any more than 20 dollars. I mean it's like anki with pretty colors

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>tfw Mexican
>tfw drop out of high school
>3 years since then
>be a NEET/Hikikomori and have all the time of the world
>tfw good enough at English to hold a simple conversation but no more then that
>see a DJT thread for the first time
>decided to take advantage of my free time and started learning Japanese, but after many months of studying I have finally worn out of tiredness and boredom
>tfw It's been 5 or 6 months since then
Should I even bother coming back to it anymore? Manga,anime,VNs,etc where the only reason I decided to learn this language for.

What should I do? I'm so god damn lucky for having irresponsible parents and all the time of the world when others don't. What should I do with my free time? I don't want it to go to waste. I want to use it wisely, considering that there are people out there who don't have the same lifestyle and free time as me. What the fuck should I do?

>> No.11451991

>>11451980
You should stop shitposting on /v/ and start building model tanks

>> No.11452025

>>11451945
スプーン isn't 和製英語. マイカー is 和製英語.

>> No.11452064

Really, what is the point of N5? I'm doing sample questions and I haven't gotten a single one wrong even though I've only taken one semester of Japanese.

>> No.11452089

>>11452064
There's no point to anything before N3, as that's the minimum to get any job in Japan.

>> No.11452555

>>11452064

OP here

First I want to know how good my japanese is now and it's a motivation boost to learn more vocab to pass the test (which seems to be easy as hell anyways but whatever)
After the test I'll have some experience with JLPT and next time so I'm better prepared for the next JLPT, which will be N3 probably

>> No.11453364

>>11451360

N5 is basically the same as N4, not easier.
Old -> new
N4 -> N5
N3 -> N4
N2 -> N2
N1 -> N1

N3 is new, and meant to indicate conversational speaking fluency

>> No.11453380

>>11452555

Me too OP. I signed up to take it as a milestone. My real goal is N3 in July.

>> No.11453396

>>11451459

Well, in the US it only costs $40. And even if you're not N1, it is some objective certification of proficiency. Its one thing to apply for a job in japan saying "I've been studying by myself for a year". Its another to say, "I achieved N3". But you're right that, so far as I can tell, the only one which really matters to the Japanese government is N1 (like, if you want to be a doctor).

>> No.11453401

>>11451326

In the US, the last day to sign up is Friday

http://www.aatj.org/jlpt

Which reminds me, I need to do my reps today

>> No.11453406

>>11452064

They want you to pass... the pass rate on N5 is 50%, which is way higher than the rest of them.

>> No.11453414

Are there practice tests for the JLPT? I don't want to go into the test without having any clue how it's formatted and stuff

>> No.11453432

>>11453414
Geez follow the thread.

>> No.11453443

>>11452089
There's no "minimum to get any job in Japan", it completely depends on the job. The people who hire you most likely will have never heard of the jlpt.

>> No.11453496

>>11451691
what do these words mean

>> No.11453499

>>11453396
>the only one which really matters to the Japanese government is N1
Pretty much any university is going to require proficiency well beyond N1, especially if you need to know technical terms. N1 is really easy in practice.

i.e., the government doesn't care.

>> No.11453510

Otōto wa heya ni sōji o shimasu

Would this be plain wrong?

>> No.11453522

>>11451388
Holy fuck why is this so easy?
I've only been learning moon for 3 months and thought I was still green but even N2 was very accessible, heck even N1 doesn't seem hard at all.

>> No.11453524 [DELETED] 

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBS

>> No.11453526

>>11453524
I'm a language otaku!

>> No.11453536

>>11453510
Yes. To be correct it would be

弟は部屋を掃除します。

>> No.11453598

>>11453536
not according to the JLPT N5 practise test

>>11451617

>> No.11453599

>>11453499

I thought uni wanted the EJU rather than the JLPT?

>> No.11453885

>>11453598
The answer is の, not に

>> No.11453941

ITT: /jp/ universally fails JLPT 5

>> No.11454029

>>11453941
The word you're looking for is "collectively".

>> No.11454042

>>11453499
Most universities don't even accept JLPT scores. They require you to take the EJU and achieve a decent score, and then many others will also interview you, in Japanese of course, as part of the selection process.

>> No.11454095

>Try the practice tests
>Ace everything up to jlpt 2
>Suddenly can't get a single correct answer
fuuuuuuuuuuu

>> No.11454155

>>11454095
>fuuuuuuuuuuu
>>>/a/
>>>/b/
>>>/v/

>> No.11454176 [DELETED] 

>>11454155
trolled hard :)

>> No.11454233

>>11454042
Yeah, I knew it was another test but couldn't be bothered to look up the name.

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11454243

I'm going for N2... I want to take the N1 but I'm afraid of failing. I'm still nervous either way though... any advice for me? A little more important than someone taking the freaking N5. What does that even help you with?

>> No.11454253

Could you feasibly start learning Japanese and be ready for N1 within two years?

>> No.11454260

>>11454155
nice you fucking rekted that dumb shitty nerd

who the fuck was he quoting man

who the fuck

>> No.11454261

>>11454253
Yes, if you focus on reading it probably won't even be that hard. But you'd need to put actual effort into it.

>> No.11454262

>>11454253
Yes. You could do it within a year even, assuming you put enough hours in.

>> No.11454262,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11454176
LMAO your post got deleted but not mine

>> No.11454262,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11454262,1
I deleted my own post.

trolled hard :)

>> No.11454306

What's the point of taking these tests? Do you actually get anything useful from doing well on them?

>> No.11454312

>>11454306
It can be a door opener for certain positions, and it's better evidence that you're proficient than just your word. Though any serious position will require an interview after that (and that will matter more).

>> No.11454314

>>11454262

How many hours per day should someone put in if they want to be able to do N1 within a year? 8 to 12 hours?

>> No.11454316

>>11454314
That's going to depend entirely on what you do during those hours and how motivated you are. If you use an effective method, you could probably get away with 2-4 hours.

>> No.11454320

>>11454314
I would say 500~ for the year. How you want to break it down is up to you. 8 hours a day would be almost 3000 hours. Many people who 'study' for like, 5 years, don't even put that many hours in. How you use those hours is important too. If you spend 500 hours just using Anki for example, then you may not pass.

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>>11454314

Just take speed every day and use the focus from the drug to effortlessly study for 13 hours non-stop each day.

Easiest and fastest way to learn Japanese.

>> No.11454376

>>11454332
Have you ever taken speed, Anon-kun?

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>>11454376

Every day. I wouldn't even have the motivation to get out of bed without this wonderful drug.

I'm fortunate that I live in America since they give it out to everyone over here.

>> No.11454434

>>11454320

You've motivated me to spend a minimum of two hours a day studying!

ありがとうございます、サクラさん。

>> No.11454439

>>11454403
I went to the doctor and she wouldn't give it to me the whole thing was a waste of time I'm mad as hell

>> No.11454467

>>11454439

What did she say?

>> No.11454476
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11454476

How much adderall did it take you to learn japanese?

>> No.11454480

>>11454403
What's your dose and how long have you been taking it?

I know you're supposed to get a tolerance to the euphoria but i've been getting a tolerance to the damn awake/attention parts of it.

>> No.11454494

>>11454480

I've been taking 30mg IR every day for about 4 years now. Developed a slight tolerance to the euphoria, but no problems with the attention and focus.

Might need to increase your dose slightly if your doctor has you on something like 10mg.

>> No.11454498

>>11454494
Eh i'm on 60mg Vyvannse, i'm assuming you mean IR adderall, my equivilent dose would be roughly 23mg.

i'm surprise you say 'slight' tolerance to the euophoria, the first time i took it it felt like it lasted for 8-10 hours, now it lasts maybe 2-3 max.

>> No.11454507

>>11454476
I'd be taking it daily by now if not a fact that you can get addicted to it easy as fuck with extreme withdrawal symptoms.

It's basically amphetamine, but their power for adding motivation/learning/focusing ability is very, very immense. Problem is that after you take it your levels drop far lower than what you had before taking it, so you get addicted very easily and it's hard to quit. You could probably solve it partially by taking it constantly, but taking amphetamine almost 24/7 isn't especially healthy and would probably fuck you up at some point. Being dependent on the drug that isn't very cheap isn't a good thing either.

>> No.11454514

>>11454507
>with extreme withdrawal symptoms.

haha no

amphetamine withdrawl is a fucking cakewalk compared to real withdrawl. amp withdrawl just makes you feel tired, hungry, sleepy, distracted, listless and maybe a little depressed, oh boo hoo

amp withdrawl isn't even a problem unless you have stuff you have to get done that requires concentration and mental effort. Compare that to alcohol withdrawl (DT's can kill you or give you seizures), opiate withdrawal is apparently like going through hell, etc.

It's definitely addictive if you're not careful but the withdrawal isn't the hard part.

>> No.11454516

>>11454514
So you say I should take adderall and become a genius overnight?

>> No.11454522

>>11454516
no, if you choose to, you should use adderall as a tool, with limits, cautions and warning. it's not a miracle drug, but it's far from being a placebo or a shit tier stimulent like caffeine

but the withdrawal is really not bad at all, frankly the 'hard' part about taking breaks is just finding consecutive days when i can afford to be a lazy bastard

>> No.11454529

>>11454522
>it's not a miracle drug

neutral imaging of >>11454476 disagrees with you

>> No.11454533

>>11454529
brains are not light switches

your brain lights up uber red everywhere during a seizure too

that image is just posted on imageboards by idiots to try and mislead others

>> No.11454536

>>11454533
lol why do eops always shit up these kind of threads with their retarded ALL DRUGS WILL GIVE YOU CANCER shit

lol holy shit grandpa hope you dont drink coffee that addicts you as well

>> No.11454541

>>11454536
but i use amphetamine, i'm just not delusional enough to think it's a wonder drug

>> No.11454542

>>11454536
Have you taken your Adderall today? You seem to be having trouble focusing.

>> No.11454547

>>11454536

There's a happy medium between thinking adderall is a wonderdrug and being a brainwashed DARE officer

>> No.11454549
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I'm gonna take N3 in Ann Arbor. 僕はがんばります。

>> No.11454555

>>11454547
Did you quote the wrong post?

Anyway my point is that one image from a random functional neuroimaging study with no context, no patient history, no nothing does not an argument make.

>> No.11454555,1 [INTERNAL] 

Holy HELL is this a Japanese language thread about being in education or training?

What the fuck is the janitor doing? Delete this right now.

>> No.11454562

>>11454498

Do you take any supplements to lower tolerance? I've been taking L-Tyrosine and Magnesium every day for years and that might have something to do with the lack of tolerance build-up that I've experienced.

>> No.11454566

>>11454562
it's placebo, i take magnesium and memantine, which the internet thinks is some gold standard for reducing tolerance

>> No.11454574

>>11454549
I'm taking N1 in Ann Arbor. See you there, nerd.

>> No.11454579

>>11454574
Hit him once for me

>> No.11454585

>>11454434
頑張ってね!
Just make sure your 2 hours of "studying" isn't simply listening to Japanese radio or TV for an hour while posting on /jp/, followed by an hour of random kanji on Anki.

And remember, it's not like you need a high score to pass the JLPT. You just need 100/180, with a minimum of 19/60 on each of the 3 sections. So you could get 25/60 on both reading and grammar, and get 50/60 on listening and ostensibly still pass.

>> No.11454592

>>11454579
Will do.

>> No.11454594

>>11454585
Everyone will laugh at you and know you're a fraud though if you seriously get a 100/180

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>>11454574
ど どうしよう。。。

>> No.11454630

>>11454594
Well, it really depends why you want the N1 I guess. If you just want to put on your resume that you have the N1, then the score isn't that big a deal as long as you are certified. If you're just getting it for bragging rights or to test yourself, then obviously a higher score is better. But you can always retake the N1 if you need to.

>> No.11454634

>>11454585
What are good ways to study?

>> No.11454642

>>11454634
Grammar drill.
Reading.
Anki for vocab.

Watching movies and television is for your spare time, not your dedicated study hours.

I'm only speaking from experience with French though.

>> No.11454649

>>11454634
Read stuff, that's what I do

>> No.11454663

>>11454634
Take amphetamine, then do these for 12-16 hours non stop, go to bed, repeat.
>>11454642
>>11454649

take a break 1-2 days a week

congratulations now you can do anything, even learn japanese

>> No.11454663,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11454243
I got to N1 level in 5 months of 1-2 hours a day. Shit's easy yo.

>> No.11454669

>>11454634
Using the language is the best way to study of course. Much like, rather than just trying to memorise math formulas, using the formulas yourself to solve problems will help retain the knowledge and give you a better understanding.

Try to write in Japanese. All the kanji you learn, try to write them and get good at it. Try to transcribe the things you are listening to. Try to create your own sentences and paragraphs. You'll get a better understanding of grammar and sentence structure this way I feel.

Try to read Japanese. Start with simple manga, move up to things a little more difficult. Maybe try to read light novels or 2ch and stuff. If you are trying to read a manga, for example, and you are having a hard time with it, try to understand why you are having a hard time. Is it just the kanji? Well then put a bit more effort into studying the kanji. Is it the grammar? Then maybe you aren't spending enough time learning the grammar, etc.

Try to translate things, and look at how other people translate similar things. Maybe take a manga, that already has a decent translation. Translate some pages or a chapter, and compare yours to theirs. What are the parts that you are having a hard time on? Translating I think will also help you think about language in a more structural sense.

If you have a DS, try getting a game like " Kageyama Method - Tadashii Kanji Kakitori-Kun - Kondo wa Kanken Taisaku Dayo!" and going through the drills, and tests. I think it wll help with learning kanji.

I'm sure it works for some people, but I just feel passive approaches to studying aren't very good. Yes Anki is great for memorising a bunch of kanji and vocab, but you should use it as an aid in your studies, it shouldn't be what your studies entirely consists of. And just listening to Japanese doesn't help you if you aren't engaging with it, and trying to understand what they are saying. Just having it play in the background doesn't do much.

>> No.11454669,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11454669
>Much like, rather than just trying to memorise math formulas, using the formulas yourself to solve problems will help retain the knowledge and give you a better understanding.

Someone explain to this shitlord that all references to math must go through me first.

>> No.11454706

>>11454594
No one will know.

>> No.11454717

>>11454706
He will probably blog about his score on /jp/. Then lots of people will know.

>> No.11454725

Whoa. According to these sample questions I could pass N2 if I actually finished my 常用漢字.
Watching all that anime had its effect. Now if only I could use my absorption skills for something with actual value...

>> No.11454735

>>11454725
>something with actual value...
I don't get that reasoning.
So what if you learned Japanese because you like anime or some other banal reason, what does that matter?
How could anyone argue that learning a language is a bad thing?

>> No.11454736

>>11454735
Because you spent a shit ton of time and effort and all it helped you do was be more of a worthless hedonist?

>> No.11454752

>>11454736
Isn't that more down to how you choose to use your skills/knowledge?
Still not convinced that learning a language could ever be considered a bad thing.

>> No.11454760

>>11454736
Some people spend 500 hours playing kusoge like WoW. Spending time learning a language, is never a bad thing. Sure maybe you will only use it for entertainment (which is hardly a waste in and of itself), but should you ever decide to, you could also use it to make money.

>> No.11454761

>>11454735
It's not that learning a language is bad. What part, what word, what character of my post made you think I was saying that?

My point is that I seem to be able to learn a language through television and music (Japanese) and videogames (English) but then here I am, trying to cram for a Linguistics test and I can't go through one paragraph without getting bored and quitting. I start yawning after a few words, and going through a whole chapter is impossible.
Not only I fail at doing useful things, but on top of that it's unnerving and it's shit. Burger flippers don't need to know Japanese.

>> No.11454780

>>11454761
I guess I read too much into your comment.
Too used to people completely dismissing learning a language as pointless or a waste of time (typically monolinguals).

>> No.11454793

>>11454736
Nah, learning a language is a serious intellectual work-out, with long-term cognitive benefits. Maybe you'll never use, say, Estonian in your life, but learning it will improve your performance in other areas.

>> No.11454797

>N5

When I went to this site, I knew that I would be surrounded by retards but this is too much

>> No.11454803

>>11454761

>I start yawning after a few words, and going through a whole chapter is impossible.

This is exactly what drugs are for.

>> No.11454805

>>11454797
Post your score(s).

>> No.11454814

>>11454793
>>11454752
>>11454760
>i'm not as shit as SOME people, therefore what i do is ok

>> No.11454820

>>11454797
All the /jp/sies with N1 went to /s4s/

>> No.11454846

>>11454820
wow hard to believe people still think that ironic gay shit is funny.

>> No.11454876

>>11454803
Are you a drug otaku? What do you recommend over the counter? Getting a prescription is hard.

>> No.11454898

Are premade vocab decks a bad thing?

/a/'s Japanese learning thread says that they are.

>> No.11454905

>>11454898
Get the fuck out crossie.

>> No.11454909

>>11454876
For some reason I assumed you were talking about drugs like adderall but I guess you could be talking about speed or something.

I hope not.

>> No.11454929

>>11454905

pls dont bully
janny deletes the japanese threads here
i had no where else to go
no bully

>> No.11454943

>>11454929
Since when have Japanese threads been deleted on /jp/?

>> No.11454947

>>11454943

The anki threads aren't allowed anymore.

>> No.11454950

>>11454898

/a/'s daily Japanese is awful, stay away. You could make a pastebin to say that the sky is red and the guy who posts in the thread, "The sky is blue though," would get shit on for 10 posts. If it's on a pastebin or google doc it's the fucking infallible word of God apparently.

>> No.11454951

>>11454947
Why? How is that not otaku culture?

>> No.11454955

>>11454909

adderall and speed are basically the same thing

>> No.11454964

>>11454955
"Speed" (Dextromethamphetamine) has a significantly different (more dopagnetic) receptor affinity profile than the 75/25 racetramic mix of Dextrompahetmaine/Levoamphetamine known as "Adderall", not to mention significantly different synthesis, purity, environment of use, and ROA

>> No.11454964,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11454964
lmao

>> No.11454970

>>11454951
It's one of those things that the iron-fisted dictator around here decided he didn't want up around the clock.

>> No.11454979

>>11454970
I am going to e-mail moot and see about this.

>> No.11454983

>>11454964

Hence "basically the same", not "exactly the same".

And since we're talking about using dugs as study aids, the environment of use is the same in this case.

>> No.11454989

>>11454964

Speed is only considered exclusively as meth in America, but that's only because every other form of speed is legal in the U.S and prescribed to school children on a regular basis. It's unpleasant for parents to admit that they are giving their 7 year old child speed so they try to distance themselves from it and refer to it as "ADHD" medicine. Amphetamines are seen as speed in every other country.

The only noticeable difference between meth and adderall when compared at equivalent dosages is that meth feels smoother while adderall makes your heart beat faster, has a bit more of a cocaine-like kick to it, and generally just feels dirtier.

>> No.11454990

>>11454983
Except that while technically possible, your odds of being medically prescribed methamphetamine are orders of magnitude lower than being prescribed amphetamine, so you're probably getting your meth from tweakers or other recreational (scumbag) users.

>> No.11454992

>>11454979
its not worth the trouble. things like that bring in tons of crossies. just like the old vn threads did when besides the occasional /v/ or /a/ threads there wasnt anywhere else to talk about it.

its not hard to learn jap. just do your reps, read grammar books, read shit in japanese and after awhile start listening to jap shit with an ear to make out what is being said.

then if you want you can start posting in jap sites and writing in jap and then skype with japs.

i mean like 100% of all beginner questions can be answered just by saying fuck it ill learn it in time and going back to learning no need to waste time with trolls telling you 3 different answers to said questions

>> No.11454997

>>11454989
>Speed is only considered exclusively as meth in America, but that's only because every other form of speed is legal in the U.S and prescribed to school children on a regular basis. It's unpleasant for parents to admit that they are giving their 7 year old child speed so they try to distance themselves from it and refer to it as "ADHD" medicine. Amphetamines are seen as speed in every other country.

that's only because you have shit tier stimulents in your country.

Dextromethamphetamine is medically, and scientifically superior to Dextroamphetamine in every way.

I've never even used it, but i can tell you this objectively from just the receptor profile. All the side effects from D-amp are lower on D-meth-amp, and all the benefits are higher.

What you describe d as "smoothness" is how the ignorant describe the effects of different receptor affinity profiles. D-meth-amp has a significantly higher dopamine:adrenaline receptor ratio than D-amp, making it objectively superior

>> No.11455006

>>11454898
Hi, I have a neat alternative for SRS and artificial repetition, it's called "read a fucking lot". Not piss easy shit like porn and Chinese comic, read a fucking newspaper article on the Internet and see how far you can get.

>> No.11455008

>>11455006
Inefficient and hilariously Ludditesque

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>>11454990

If only we could travel back to the 50s

>> No.11455020

>>11455015
Or you could go to the what.. 1920s? or 1890s? when you could buy heroin without a prescription to treat the common cold

They weren't entirely off base either, Heroin (Diacetylmorphine) is a hilariously, absurdly powerful, cough suppressant

>> No.11455022

>>11455006
You should ideally be doing both... Anki is fucking amazing for boosting your vocabulary, and way more efficient than looking up every word you don't know in a dictionary. I was at an advanced level in French, at least 7-8k words and reading novels, and then I found Anki and literally memorized 2200 new words in a month. And it made my reading so much smoother and more enjoyable.

>> No.11455032

>>11454997

Meth is better, but the actual difference from the perspective of the user is relatively insignificant. I've tried prescription meth (desoxyn), adderall, vyvanse and the differences are very subtle. Meth had the least amount of side effects but the focus wasn't as intense as adderall, vyvanse felt similar to prescription meth but a bit weaker, and adderall had more kick to it, more hyperfocusing, but the side effects were nastier.

Street meth is the only thing that feels significantly different, but that's only because you're taking a fucking massive dose that is nearly 20x larger than the average dose of prescription meth.

I'm sure it seems like there's plenty of fascinating differences between the drugs when you look at them from a scientific perspective, but it's really just insignificant differences when you actually take the drugs and compare the effects first hand.

>> No.11455044

>>11455020

LSD had been invented by the 50s, so I'd much prefer going there.

I think heroin was effectively banned in the US in 1914; before then, it was available at extremely low prices that enabled most people to be functioning addicts.

>> No.11455046

>>11455032
I have to give way to your empirical experience on this since i've only tried lisdexamphetamine (vyvannse) which is just a prodrug for Dextroamphetamine. I still get noticeable PNS side effects but i suppose it could always be worse on adderall - and i'm still working on getting back into good cardio shape (even if i'm 'thin').

i really fucking hate the concept of levoamphetamine though, seems like it's all side effects with no real benefit.

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>N5
そうですか

>> No.11455049

>>11455008
If reading is inefficient then why the fuck are you studying a language for?

>> No.11455051

>>11455049
What he means is that reading is an inefficient way of learning.

>> No.11455054

>>11455051
But, it's not.

>> No.11455055

>>11455051
no, just that you can't effectively read until you have some base # of words and grammatical concepts understood, for any language

>> No.11455056

Sup guys I heard you're pretty jozu at teaching Japanese.

>> No.11455057

>>11455054
A stellar objection.

>> No.11455058

omg did u guys no we hav a lang broad?

>> No.11455060

>>11455058
Tell that to /a/.

>> No.11455063

>>11455058

>text boards

>> No.11455064

>>11455046

>i really fucking hate the concept of levoamphetamine though, seems like it's all side effects with no real benefit.

I do too and you couldn't pay me enough to take a high dose of adderall because that shit would probably give me a stroke, but when compared at low therapeutic dosages that 25% levoamphetamine gives adderall that extra kick of energy that meth and pure dextroamphetamine don't have when taken at equivalent dosages.

Adderall is only good when comparing the drugs at 30mg or below dosages. Anything past that point and adderall becomes way too dangerous and meth and vyvanse become far superior.

>> No.11455071

>>11455064
Hmm, does that levoamphetamine give it an "extra kick" for keeping you awake/alert/attentive, or for euphoria/pleasure, or both?

the first would make sense, and actually i have run into that, vyvannse alone seems to produce a significant tolerance even to the wakefulness properties of it. i expected a tolerance to euophoria but not to the rest.

>> No.11455094

>>11455071

Yeah, it's just the awake/alert/attentive part and I experienced something similar with vyvanse. Definitely no euphoria from levoamphetamine though. I switched from adderall to vyvanse for a few months about a year ago, but it just didn't give me that same tweaked out, bouncing off the walls, and full of energy feeling that the adderall gave me. Sure, there was a lot less paranoia and my heart rate was a bit lower, but after a couple weeks I was barely feeling anything and I switched back to adderall. Hell, there were even a few days on the vyvanse where I actually felt sleepy.

That levoamphetamine, even with all of its flaws, just seems to light a fire under your ass and you never become tolerant to it.

>> No.11455099

>>11451719

>arimahen
>not knowing that -hen is only for informal

Go back to Kansai-ben N5, aho ya.

>> No.11455119

>>11455094

Hmm, the main component of that being the levoamphetamine's affinity for epinephrine right?

you could theoretically get the same effect with d-amp drugs (lisdexamphetamine/vyvannse/dexderine/meth-amp) and a SMALL, measured, controlled dose of Ephedrine (available OTC). Like a third a capsule or less..

taking it alone, either on a regular basis, or too much at once, wrecks hell on your heart, but it would give you the same effect that l-amp does in terms of PNS stimulation, and your CNS/dopamine action would come from the dopagenic amphetamine

>> No.11455138

>>11455119
>>11455094
Also the other thing is that lisdexamphetamine, although a prodrug for d-amp (i.e. dexedrine) - has a very slow, released, controlled increase in blood plasma concentration of d-amp. there's some likability studies (the scientific term for "drug abuse" basically) and people who get say, 50mg of d-amp from lisdexamphetamine, "like" it less than 30mg of d-amp from dexedrine, because the lisdex comes on so much slower and controlled

it's why the most addicitve drugs and ROA's are those that come on quickly, i.e. IV, snorting, etc. So that might be why you didn't get the "kick" with lisdexamp. if you tried dexedrine, it might be there.

the corollary is that vyvannse lasts really fucking long. i actually dislike it, if i take half my dose in the morning and half my dose at noon, it can keep me up into the early AM hours. I'm working on getting my tolerance down though, slowly but surely

>> No.11455144

>>11454876
please respond

>> No.11455153

Spaced repitition is great and all but what should I do besides it?

>> No.11455154

I can't put my finger on why, but i really hate methylphenidate. It just feels "dirty".

>> No.11455157

>>11455153
>Spaced repitition is great and all but what should I do besides it?

Drugs.

>> No.11455159

>>11455157
Drugs are expensive anon

>> No.11455165

>>11455157

Sorry but I do not have enough money after buying a pack of cigarettes every other day.

>> No.11455175

>>11455172

Yes, but it doesn't feel like one anymore my tolerance is so immensely high.

>> No.11455172

>>11455165
You know nicotine is a drug, right?

Actually, i'm tempted to take up e-cigs on tolerance break days.

>> No.11455176

>>11455138

>So that might be why you didn't get the "kick" with lisdexamp. if you tried dexedrine, it might be there.

That could be it. I've tried the XR variety of adderall and I disliked it for similar reasons. Just doesn't have the same kick as IR does and it's nice to be able to space out my dosages without being locked in for some 8-12 hour ride whenever I take a pill.

Have you tried any sedatives to deal with your insomnia problem? I've been taking a mix of a very small dose of benzos (10mg of valium) and about 10mg of melatonin every night for as long as I've been taking stimulants. It works like a charm and knocks me out right away.

>> No.11455181

>>11455159
You can make your own drugs out of a few common household items:

You'll need around 5-8 pennies (or whatever copper coins you have in your country) and a straw. Put these aside.

Get a clear jar, scoop 2 tablespoons of salt into it, and 1 tablespoon of baking soda.

Now the first important ingredient should be in the bathroom cleaning supplies: Ammonia (any brand). Pour it in until the jar is 2/3 of the way full.

The last ingredient is laundry bleach (careful not to spill on your clothes!), fill the rest of the jar.

Now drop the pennies into the bottom, and quickly take the straw and blow bubbles onto the pennies to get the crystals going. You should begin to feel the effects after about 30 seconds of blowing. That’s it!

>> No.11455183

>>11455181
Wow, a 8 year old meme. Thanks anon.

>> No.11455185

>>11455181
Don't say things like that.

>> No.11455203

>>11455183
8 year old meme as in 8 year olds would find it funny?

Actually now i wonder what's X, such that an X year old meme is found funny by people who are X years old. It's probably between 7-12.

>> No.11455209

>>11455203
As in you're posting shit from eight years ago that nobody is going to fall for.

>> No.11455213

>>11455209
I didn't post that though.

>> No.11455220

>>11455144

I don't know of any over the counter stimulants that aren't terrible. Caffeine is the most well known one that comes to mind, but at low doses it's so subtle that you can barely feel it and at high doses you won't be able to stop shaking, your heart will be beating out of your chest, and you will be extremely paranoid.

In my experience, over the counter and legal drugs are usually either useless or incredibly dangerous.

>> No.11455227

>>11455209
Nobody ever fell for that.

>> No.11455237

>>11455220
I've only just heard of it recently, but what about Phenylpiracetam?

Picertam is a rather well known nootropic, albeit the whole archtype falls into the "murky, subjective, psuedo-placebo" tier, but people say Phenylpiracetam is more closely related to amphetamine, yet still legal.

Never tried it myself

>> No.11455239

>>11455220
Fuck. So what if I went to Silkroad, what's the thing that would have the lowest chance of killing me once I inevitably fuck up dosage or do something stupid as a first timer solo?

>> No.11455242

>>11455237
>>11455220
Also, Adrafinal, which should be a legal prodrug of modafinal.

>> No.11455246

>>11455227
You'd be surprised

>> No.11455262

>>11455239

Can't really go wrong with prescription drugs. They're the cheapest stuff on Silkroad since a lot of people already have prescriptions and it's easier to smuggle than something like weed that has a strong odor and is fairly large. Give 20mg of adderall a try, that's a good starting dose and it should be pretty cheap since adderall is usually easy for most people to get a prescription for.

>> No.11455269

>>11455262
I pay 200$/month for my adderall script

>> No.11455276

>>11455269
America is funny

>> No.11455288

>>11455269

I guess you could maybe get more bang for your buck if you bought shelled out 200 dollars for a gram of meth of good meth or two grams of bad meth and made it last for a month or two, but I'm not sure what the silkroad prices for meth are. Generally everything on silkroad is at least triple the street price and around double the cost of a prescription.

>> No.11455287

>>11455276
Well considering Amphetamine is illegal / not prescribed in basically all of europe, it's not so bad

>> No.11455291

>>11455287
I live in Canada where we get the best of both worlds.

Our kids get prescribed speed and universal healthcare pays for it.

>> No.11455323

JPLTのサイトでN5例テストを取って、できて難しいと思った。

>> No.11455430

>>11451552
>these fucking spaces
I was confused as to what います was for a while.

>> No.11455477

>>11451552
I don't see it there but I'm pretty sure the answer is supposed to be オナニーする必要はありません

>> No.11455504

>Any advices?
Don't waste your money until you can take N1 or N2.

>> No.11455521

>>11455504
I think the only reason the other levels exist is to fund the organization. They probably get more N5 test-taker fees than N1-N4 put together.

>> No.11455527

>>11455521
That would explain what went through their mind when they created N5.

We already have JLPT4 to milk all the dirty weebs but somehow it's too hard for most of them. I know, let's make something EVEN EASIER!

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11455538

So, first post in this thread, doesn't seem like much useful has been posted.

Anyways, I have to take the N3 or above, and I've decided to take the N2. I'm studying vocab and kanji on the side to my classes, but I have one great class right now for translating Japanese text. We're reading some strange dystopian short novel by some crazy lady, who isn't very popular as far as I know, but it gets rather complex, with long run on sentences so grammar comprehension is vital. Kanji wise it stems from elementary to random ancient shit, and uses おる vs. いる and やう vs. よう and whatnot.

I wonder if this alone is a good method for studying or what. I know how to study Kanji, but is there a definitive good list? I've seen many but I'm wondering if there are any good recommendations from someone.

I'm worried for listening comprehension, because I'm just bad at catching things in general. In the past any listening comp. tests I've taken have been repeated 3 times and spoken in person. I've heard the JLPT is all recordings... and is only played twice. Recordings are always fuzzy, and I don't like them.

>> No.11455544

>>11455538
Is there something wrong with just studying the kanji in the same order of major groupings that the japs learn them? Learn all the kanji taught in elementary school first, then middle school, high school?

>> No.11455544,1 [INTERNAL] 

god bless the drug otaku for turning this piece of shit into a half decent read

>> No.11455600

>>11455504
I was thinking of taking N2 next year just to see where I'm at. If I pass with flying colors I'd just study a bit more and take the N1 next time.

>> No.11455608

I wonder what level most people in VN general are. I'd assume a lot would claim N1, but I'm guessing there are tons of N2 using machine aid as well.

>> No.11455618

>>11455608
No one in the vn general can read Japanese, we just look at the pictures and make up stories based on that.

>> No.11455624

>>11455618

That's not true! You're lying! Liar! Why are you lying?!

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>>11455624
Such denial.

>> No.11455688

>>11455608
I'd say N3 is sufficient for using machine aid to read a VN. There's N2 and N1 grammar too but that's easy to pick out and look up.

>> No.11455694

Just smoke crack and learn Japanese in a weekend.

Bunch of cowards.

>> No.11455695

>>11455608
N3 with some Mecab (furigana) help. I read mostly moege though.

>> No.11455698

>>11455694
I prefer to inject it into my eyes, it makes reading easier.

>> No.11455701

>>11451328
>>>[s4s]

>> No.11455703

I am the bonobo.

>> No.11455704

>>11455701
I don't even know where to start with you.

>> No.11455705

>>11455703
top kek

>> No.11455706

>>11455665
Thanks for posting that, it looks interesting.

>> No.11455782

>>11455521
>>11455527
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/statistics/archive/201202.html

Just under 10% of total. People seem to realize the earlier levels are pointless and don't take them.

But then again, I guess every money counts.

>> No.11455824

>>11454979
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_text=reps&search_op=op

I hope you did that simple check before you made a fool out of yourself by listening to a shitposter?

>> No.11455997
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11455997

Someone here nice enough to explain me why 2 is the correct answer? What is がちです ?

>> No.11456036

>>11455997
がち indicates that an action is prone to occurring. The sentence is saying that one is prone to thinking of toys as something meant solely for the amusement of children. Or something like that.

>> No.11456051

>>11456036
Sounds good. Thank you.

>> No.11456111

i'm going for n2.

the only problem is kanji. am currently understanding like 50% of the volcabulary specific to n2.

>> No.11456549

>>11451945
Same. Katakana a shit.
I removed all 外来語 from my Anki decks at one time.

>> No.11456793

Doing N3 because I want to see what the test conditions are like and also to be sure to pass something. Should be able to pass N1 by next year Dec considering it's an entire year away.

What do I do with my N1 once I get it, anyway? Apart from feel smug, that is. What a waste of time.

>> No.11456849

I don't understand how Japanese people manage to speak so quickly. Almost every non-basic sentence becomes a veritable tongue-twister.

>> No.11456854
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11456854

I would like to study in Japan for a few months next year to ramp up for N1.

Can any one recommend a school? Ideally one which has a lot of westerners, rather than Chinese and Korean who already know the grammar or writing from their own language.

>> No.11456860

>>11456849
their mouths work differently than ours

>> No.11456864

>>11456849
probably critical language aquisition phase, plus experience. Same with every language man.

>> No.11456885

>>11456854
What do you have against dirty chon?

>> No.11456887

>>11456854
Genki JACS is pretty good

>> No.11456964

>>11456793
Get hired in Japan, or admitted to high-level university courses.

That's basically all it's good for, aside from as a chip in dick-measuring contests some guys have regarding their language ability, which I have never understood.

>> No.11456970

>>11456854
http://www.kcpinternational.com/

They have immersive learning courses, i.e. everything above beginners' classes is all in Japanese all the time. It's sink or swim but if you can handle it you will flourish. The school itself is in the heart of Shinjuku and near Shinjuku Gyoen, a really nice park, and about 30 minutes' walk from the city center, Kabukicho, and all the fun you could possibly want to have in metropolitan Japan.

I did it for a summer semester and wish I'd stayed longer. Good times, tough classes, cool people.

>> No.11457104

>>11456887
>>11456970

Thanks a lot anons, both of these look really good.

>> No.11457225

I've taken some quizzes to gauge my level to the N2, also, which I'm taking this Dec. so let's say you needed a 70/100 to pass, I think I'm at the 64% marker right now, do you think I have enough time to study to catch up? One of my main issues is I haven't studied Japanese intensively in like 3 years because I stupidly stopped caring... but now I do but it's hard to practice anything other than Kanji because I'm expected to understand everything at my "level" according to the people I'm around. It's just embarrassing...

>> No.11457300

Is it strange if I find N4 listening questions easier than N5?

>> No.11457338

>>11456854
Apply to a college there

>> No.11458256

>>11455181
Thanks /jp/, I'll give it a try.

>> No.11460171

>>11455782
>N5
>Percentage
Certified: 54.6%
Jesus, what are these people doing?

>> No.11460378

Is the EJU required to get a Masters at a Japanese university? I'm at N3 for the JLPT now, how long would it take until I'm up to a sufficient level? I just entered the JET Program, so I figure I have 3 years about to get my Japanese up to a good enough level.

>> No.11461793

>>11455291
>and universal healthcare pays for it.

no it fucking doesn't.

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