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11434027 No.11434027 [Reply] [Original]

Thought Experiment

If all is free, what happens to the human?
Robots make all the element (clothes, meal, house) necessary for minimum survival and they can recruit fuel and other resources from the space.
When a concept of the money disappears, what will happen to the human being?

>> No.11434030

/jp/ is not the philosophy board.

>> No.11434032

>If all is free
Impossibility, would never occur in reality. The rest of your question is pointless to think about.

>> No.11434038

Damn hippies.

>> No.11434035

everyone becomes a robotics expert to deal with the fact that the robots/machines of the era will be just as unstable, shitty and unpredictable as the ones now.

so no not everyone becomes a shut in, the job market changes to facilitate the robots.

>> No.11434042

X recruit
O supply

>> No.11434048

Same thing we do now, look for distractions in work or games but in your theoretical future it would be more leisure activities and hobbies

>> No.11434062

>>11434032
you dont think its possible to rearrange matter? think star trek

when this happens energy will back currency not that it doesnt already

even then with the right technology we will have near infinite access to energy so we could reach post scarcity

>> No.11434063

if all is free, I'm free.

>> No.11434069

What a post-scarcity society would look like might be an interesting topic but it has fuck-all to do with /jp/.

>> No.11434088
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>>11434069
tell your mum lol

>> No.11434098

>>11434088
WOW ure soooooo going on moots naughty list for talking like that. bad girl.

>> No.11434136

When robots are in charge of today's minimum wage jobs, the money should be redistributed to the public.

I'm not usually in favor of collectivist ideas, but robots don't need any money, and a public robot performing a public job shouldn't end up with its salary going to a private owner.

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11434139

Any gay NEET's here ?

>> No.11434146

>>11434139
Gay? You know being gay is wrong right?

>> No.11434147
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11434147

any SAYAK's here

>> No.11434152

>>11434139
Get the fuck out crossie
>>>/lgtb/

We're not discussing your condition.

>> No.11434150

>>11434139
No we're not stooping this low.

>> No.11434151

thought experiment

is sage is hidden how will people know I actually saged?

>> No.11434153

>>11434151
test

>> No.11434154

>>11434151
Thread still bumps. Board is slow enough that everyone will know. You are never safe.

>> No.11434157

>>11434156
but that's just silly

>> No.11434158

Who HOMU here?

>> No.11434156

>>11434151

>> No.11434160

>>11434157
well putting a space before it didn't help

>> No.11434169 [DELETED] 

>>11434151
Sage works with "sage "

use sage + [space].

/jp/ has been getting more green lately, we want it blue. So fuck Meido or Moot if he doesn't wants to help the cause we're going to do it anyway.

>> No.11434168

>>11434160
and neither did nokosage'ing

>> No.11434171

>>11434168
and neither did sage@sage.sage oddly enough

>> No.11434174 [DELETED] 

>>11434153
Really? do we need to get our sage through Zalgo? Fucking Moot, he is a total dick sometimes.

>> No.11434181

Hedonism and 2-hour work days.

>> No.11434184

>>11434136
Money devalues in a post-scarcity society. You don't have to worry about where it goes at all when it doesn't exist.

Then we have a debate on eugenics and the NEETs go into an incinerator to make room for brilliant minds.

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11434187

Test.

>> No.11434188

>>11434169
Just dont spam random threads with your testing, thats all I ask.

>> No.11434193

>>11434188
I'm going to delete my posts. So you know its not meido being a dictator.

We seriously need the sage.

>> No.11434194

Are the robots also doctors?

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>>11434188
but this is the blog thread

>> No.11434198

>>11434194
We already have electronic doctors assisting real doctors. They even do a better job identifying causes.

>> No.11434204

>>11434198
But can the robot doctors love us and tell us everything is going to be okay?

>> No.11434205

>>11434195
Does it works? The sage with the futaba characters?

>> No.11434206

>>11434193
I agree. Sage didn't do shit outside of slow boards anyway, and nokosage was good enough to sage in threads on fast boards with nobody calling you out on it like you're trying to "downvote" them like retards.

>>11434195
No, its not, sorry.

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11434207

I'm not sure if the meido is aware of this or not, but on other boards (/a/, /b/, and /v/, from what I've seen), the mods are literally banning other users for trying to avoid the hidden sage.

I'm glad /jp/'s meido is okay with it and understands that "sage" is a part of /jp/'s board culture.

>> No.11434208

The robots form a post-Singularity network, decide humans are obsolete, and overtake our resources for the benefit of improving themselves (perhaps even to make "better" humans).

>> No.11434214

>>11434207
I emailed moot and you should too. Keep the subject snappy and don't start some templated gimmick. If enough people make candid posts expressing their disapproval, maybe he'll remove it from /jp/.

>> No.11434213

>>11434204
In the grim dark future we are raised to acknowledge our mortality.

>> No.11434214,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11434207
Yes, but seriously don't spam other threads with the tests. Or at least respond to them normally so its not a disruption.

>> No.11434221
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>>11434214

Um, no, he won't. When dubs were removed from /b/ and /v/, there were thousands of people who whined and complained, but moot saw all that complaining as silly.

Now, if a few months from now, we are all still e-mailing moot, he might do something, but for the first month or two, he's doing this as a "test," so we're stuck with this for at least that long.

>> No.11434218

Star Trek will happen.

>> No.11434223

>>11434214
Do this.

>> No.11434224

>>11434214
Good thing he added that suggestion box so that we can easily comm- oh wait.

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>> No.11434235

>>11434224
I don't think thats going to work. E-Mail him directly.

Also go to the IRC to see whats the word around there, I don't know what Moot is thinking with this sage thing.

>> No.11434245

>>11434235
>I don't know what Moot is thinking with this sage thing.

Yeah I thought the problem was mostly taken care of when they added the increased cooldown. That stopped people from sagebombing. I'd occasionally see some idiot using sage as a negative but I never considered it to be a problem that needed to be fixed like this.

>> No.11434246

I like how /jp/ is the only board anymore complaining about the sage thing. All the other boards already got over it.

Do you honestly think moot is going to revert all of 4chan back to normal due to /jp/ being frustrated?

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>>11434246

>> No.11434248

>>11434246
He removed full width text from the entire site but added it back to /jp/ when we complained.

>> No.11434255

>>11434169
really?

>> No.11434257

>>11434248

That's because full width is Japanese, and Japanese things are heavy in Otaku Culture. It's like how /sp/ and /pol/ have flags but nobody else.

If "sage" was actually being used the proper way on /jp/, moot probably would add it back, but as they say, "one bad apple spoils the bunch," and it's thanks to these ghost archive and formspring faggots who ruin it for everybody.

>> No.11434265

>>11434255
Not in /jp/ but it works on /f/ which is the only extra board I lurk since they host the touhou tuesday.

>>11434246
Yes, we're going to get it back.

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>>11434265

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>>11434032
i don't like getting into politics but

>would never occur in reality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution

>> No.11434341

>>11434334
ah fug i thought you were saying it's impossible not to have money
please ignore my post

>> No.11434348

>>11434341
are you milg

>> No.11434356

>>11434257
I thought formspring was dead.

>> No.11434372

We will finally realize the Marxist dream: a community where everyone can take it easy.

>> No.11434375

>>11434257
>If "sage" was actually being used the proper way on /jp/
How is it used incorrectly? You shouldn't bump threads with off-topic replies and considering how slowly /jp/ moves, sage maintains thread positions.

>> No.11434378

>>11434235
> go to the IRC

The official line in #4chan is now to email mods@4chan.org or moot@4chan.org
They've even removed ops and voices so newbies can't tell who is a mod.

>> No.11434382

>>11434375
>2013
>caring about thread positions with catalog

Sage is pretty much outdated anyway with most people using catalog and search now.

>> No.11434386

>>11434378

>They've even removed ops and voices

What? You mean they removed the red or purple Anonymous things?

>> No.11434392

>>11434375
>>11434378
>>11434382
>>11434386

Only one of these posts is using greentext improperly.

Can you guess which one?

>> No.11434393

>>11434382
Who are you shrexting?

>> No.11434397

>>11434392
It was the fir- no. Wait. I give up.

>> No.11434400

>>11434392
Definitely >>11434382 ! What is my prize?

>> No.11434402

>>11434382
>most people using catalog and search now
lol no

>> No.11434407

>>11434400

You got a pair of doubles.

I think that's a good enough prize.

>> No.11434472

>>11434257
>>11434207
>>11434214
What did you said to Moot? If we don't teamwork on this Moot is going to ignore us.

>> No.11434474

>>11434027
wwww
post capitalism occurs!

full Biological humans live simple lives again and retain folk culture and stuff. While the majority of humans are cyborgs by then.
There will be a human to post human representative for every village and community of 100% biological humans

I my self will be a very old robot by then!

The biological humans will be considered living breathing museum pieces that are smart and hopefully retain a good relation ship with the post humans

I am /jp/'s futurologist wwww
CRAZY!!!!

>> No.11434479

>>11434194
yes and they have uber medicene to fix and problems with humans wwww

There is no asylums because they are all healed
wwww

also this thread is not /jp/ related

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>>11434479
how did you know all this

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>>11434257
>If "sage" was actually being used the proper way on /jp/

I still laugh at how 4chan doesn't understand what sage means.

If only I knew moon so I wouldn't have to spend time on a board that imports foreign concepts and then DOES IT WRONG all the time.

Using sage as a way to "insult" someone's post or thread is just completely wrong and a retarded misuse of a good feature that is so popular in sites like 2ch and Futaba. Fuck, iichan and 4-ch do it right. It's just 4chan and 4chan's lame knockoffs that fail at using sage.

The true meaning of sage means that YOUR POST isn't worthy enough to bump the thread. It's ironic, because you think that you're insulting others while you're just, in fact, insulting yourself. Yes, sage can be used when posting a derogatory comment in a thread that you don't want to bump, but posting with just the word "sage" accomplishes nothing but contribute to spamming the board. The trend of replying with the name of a tripfag and sage is even worse, as it accomplishes nothing and only serves to increase the e-penis of whoever you're "attacking".

The sage feature was never meant to serve as an implied insult or general disagreement! Why people started using it that way is beyond me. There are plenty of reasons why one would choose not to bump a thread with his reply. For example, bumping threads with stupid one liner replies should be discouraged and those people should be coerced into using sage instead.

I want to use sage, yet I almost never do it on 4chan because people will jump on me thinking I'm insulting their post or something.
Either that, or /b/ kiddos will think I'm mad.

>> No.11434494

>>11434479
>also this thread is not /jp/ related

How you can tell if it is or not? Nobody is using sage!!

>> No.11434501

I used to use sage:bump ratios to determine how intelligent a given thread is. If things stay this way, /jp takes another blow to the "unbrowsable" scale.

>> No.11434510

I am really skeptical about Enders Game movie adaptation. I want to be excited for it but everything in me says that it will be poorly translated and a bunch of shit from the book will be altered or just outright omitted like every other movie that was adapted from book.

>> No.11434513

>>11434501
I will get around to emailing moot and suggesting to bring back the original sage form

It's all i can do really...

>> No.11434516

>>11434513
If you're Meido please do it and I love you for being a watchful protector.

>> No.11434569

>>11434486
Technological singularity

I am ....

wwww

>> No.11434616

>>11434027
In a post scarcity world, you get Star Trek.

>> No.11434627

>>11434569
Why are we all emailing moot anyways? If there are this many people someone ought to make a thread on /q/.
Are we so neet here that we can't even leave our board?

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>>11434627
He deleted /q/. This seems way too convenient because...
Well this is a conspiracy theory but:
1. Moot removes blue sage
2. Moot removes /q/ so we can't complain in groups
3. Moot makes his full metamorphosis into Joot: The one who sold 4chan.

>>>/q/
Non-existent.

Most boards actually want the blue sage back as well, but no one needs it more than /jp/.

I agree with Moot's judgment but that doesn't happens in /jp/, in /jp/ we need desperately the blue sage in order to teamwork and avoid having trash threads bumped.

Otherwise our efforts will be nullified each time a crossie sees a trash thread and says well no one seems to be saging this is related to my interests, then responds it without sage.

I seriously don't know why Moot didn't ask 4chan first about how they feel about this new sage crap.

>> No.11434706

>>11434696
trash threads arent really bumped though they get deleted

trash threads are ironically bumped all the time anyway

>> No.11434738

>>11434706
But we don't know exactly what is Otaku Culture and crossies know this even less so.

And if you're Moot I hope you are not thinking about changing /jp/'s name that would be another dumb move, just return blue sage.

If its not broken don't try to fix it.

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11434747

other sites support you /jp/!

>> No.11434748

>>11434738
so you mean you want to use sage as a downvote

>> No.11434749

Holy fuck i was a huge faggot back in 2008

my maturity was seriously lacking

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fugg

>> No.11435015

>>11434748
No, I already explained why.

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>>11434027
Carbo.

That's what happens.

It took me a while of thinking about this, but yes. Cardbo.

>> No.11435134

sage is more about a politeness thing for me.
I can take it easy when people read my post knowing that I didn't self-importantly bump the thread with my unneeded opinion.

>> No.11435139

>>11434493
Sage was used to push a post to it's post limit without bumping it to page 1. Sage bombing was a thing because of this feature. As threads last much longer now then they did then, sage bombing died. It is now used for the same means, in order to not bump the thread your posting it, as people post in a highly conversed thread anyways, it's essentially pointless.

Your pseudo-intellectual dribble about what sage does and does not mean and then using other sites as if argumentum ad populum was going out of style and expecting your appeal to ignorance to be regarded as anything but stupid shows your lack of intelligence as a whole. Secondly, I hope to go this is pasta, otherwise you prove only that somebody saging your post ruffled your feathers long enough to rant about it.

It doesn't matter the roots of the word. I sage a dying thread I don't want to bump when it has no chance of being bumped in any case or when a thread is on it's way to 404ing.

TL;DR?
You don't know shit.
I've got a bigger dick.
Get dunked.

>> No.11435141

I hope that's pasta too, but I don't think it is, and that's tragic.

>> No.11435165

Wouldn't having sage not count into the bump limit be a better idea to avoid sage bombing? Not only that, but it would also push people into using sage correctly.

>> No.11435169

Won't happen. Money is power, and the people in charge won't give that up.

>> No.11435172

>>11435165
sage bombing is dead, captcha and long post times killed it.

>> No.11435176

I'm conflicted about this.

For one part I agree with moot and I'm glad that he gets the true meaning of the sage function. On the other hand, I liked seeing if someone is being polite in /jp/.

Besides, does this really work? I don't go to other boards anymore but I'd guess they'd just put "sage" in the subject field or something.

>> No.11435181

>>11435176
In 3 months nobody outside of /jp/ will know what sage is anymore.

>> No.11435182

>>11435181
Just like nobody remembers noko.

>>11435176
nokosage did the invisible part just fine for cross-boarders. I used it in /tg/ frequently.

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>>11435139
Bro that kopipe is old as dug.

>> No.11435187

>>11435182
Nonoko is the new thing.

>> No.11435191

Why now? Why is he changing how sage works now? My money is on trying to distract us from the 60/90 second post timer.

>> No.11435194

>>11435191
Have you when noticed that? I haven't found the need to reply that quickly to anything since the change and it discourages text less image dumping.

>> No.11435196

>>11435187
Its too bad nonokosage doesn't work, i'd be willing to put up with it.

>> No.11435200

>>11435194
Textless imagedumping is not always a bad thing. Dumping scans for instance. And an image dump thread around a character every now and then is harmless too.

I've noticed the difference a lot. I don't dump much or anything. But stuff like, I post something. Thread auto-updates while the quick reply is going through, I end up having to wait 30-40 seconds to reply to the posts that have just popped up. If the captcha doesn't time out while I'm waiting, that is.

>> No.11435202

>>11435196
What do you mean it doesn't work?

>> No.11435206

>>11435202
By "work" I mean "Shows sage in the email field while still actually sage-ing

>> No.11435208

>>11435200
Captcha takes ages to time out. Image dumps are always bad. Better off linking to doujin download or archive of char images. Its basically spam. Only idiotic spammy type people complain about this. Having just one person dumping mass images in a thread is shit and means nobody actually cares.

>> No.11435216

>>11435208
I don't understand why people are so anti image dumping. This is an imageboard, perfectly decent way to showcase and post images. It's quite a recent thing to. It didn't used to be like this.

>> No.11435218

>>11435208
Some dumps are mirrored off 2chan. I mean, you could wait until they were completely dump, then upload the zip to mediafire, but people have way more fun reacting as it happens.

>> No.11435223

>>11435216
There is /e/ and /c/ for that sort of thing.

>> No.11435227

>>11435216
Same anti-general thread faggots from /a/ who think that an imageboard should be used like some kind of twitter.

>> No.11435230

>>11435223
/c/ and /e/ are meant as image dump boards, not discussion boards, and most comics wouldn't qualify for either.

>> No.11435231

>>11435216
We didn't used to have this much image dumping. It's idiotic image dumping too. We used to have edits and real time translation and we didn't used to have boorus and pixivs. Now it's the most inefficient means to share your waifus. It's always been frowned on except porn boards.

Most of the touhou dumps are ironic and meant to bait you dumping idiots.

>>11435227
Go back to your containment thread.

>> No.11435232

Sorry to whine, but these ideas are famous old bullshit, and not board-relevant.

>> No.11435236 [DELETED] 

i got donuts again tonight

two chocolate donuts with strawberry frosting and one blueberry donut

i hope i can sleep

>> No.11435237

>>11435231
>We didn't used to have this much image dumping.
We used to have way more actual dumps. People used to regularly dump doujinshi in /jp/, but it hasn't happened in years. And people still do dump the newest chapters of WaHH and FS when they're out.

>Most of the touhou dumps are ironic and meant to bait you dumping idiots.
Keeping up the same ironic threads for four years without a trace of visible irony is truly the greatest scam that has ever been pulled on /jp/.

>> No.11435241

>>11435231
>We didn't used to have this much image dumping.
What? No, I'd even say that image dumps were even more common in 2008-2009.

>Go back to your containment thread.
Containment of what? /jp/ has always been a slow board and topic-centered threads have always existed.

Just stop.

>> No.11435244

>>11435237
That was when we had people from here actually translating things. Now they link to ddl cause not retards.

Actual idiots community something something.

>> No.11435246

>>114352
Eternal Idol General #OO, it's calling.

>> No.11435250 [DELETED] 

>>11435244
People included DDLs back when they were dumping back then, too.

Every thread with characters has character threads. Claiming they're all "ironic bait" is just retarded, especially when they're half of what's around.

>> No.11435254

>>11435244
People included DDLs back when they were dumping back then, too. They also included the dump itself because people enjoy commenting on individual pages or developments as they happen. Every board with characters has character threads. Claiming they're all "ironic bait" is just retarded, especially when they're half of what's around.

>>11435246
You'd rather have a whole bunch of idol threads instead?

>> No.11435255

>>11435250
Believe it or not they are but if you enjoy dumping images that nobody actual gives two shits about I'm not telling you to stop.

>> No.11435260

>>11435255
>Believe it or not they are
I'm not going to believe it, and neither is anyone else. You've just got your shitposting goggles on.

>> No.11435266

>>11435260
you must be from /a/ lol

>> No.11435309

sage

>> No.11435322 [DELETED] 

So what are you NEETs doing today?

I'm going to try dling the rest of the touhou jazz albums from comiket. Then I'm going to make some chip-dip from scratch and plan out what games I'll be playing and foot I'll be eating during my NEETweekend.

>> No.11435335

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy

Go wild.

>> No.11435729

I want blue sage back~ I miss you so bad!~♥

>> No.11435748

>>11435729
newfag

>> No.11436681 [DELETED] 

>>11435748
Sorry what?

>> No.11436688 [DELETED] 

>>11435748
Sorry what?

>> No.11439151

>>11434027
simple, humans will find something else to fight over

without moral and intellectual enlightenment of the masses, you have not removed the fundamental causes of the human condition, that is, humanity

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