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Visual Novel translation status


>12Riven- 29.5/72 scripts translated
Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 90%, editing 65%
>Air - One project released 2nd Beta patch and 70% edited, other 74.97% translated
Akatsuki no Goei - Prologue patch released, 8610 lines translated, 10/157 files edited
Amaenbo - Being translated
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "420/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (~21.4%)"
Anniversary no Kuni no Alice - 31% translated
Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: "47% (579 KB of 1.24 MB)", 16/78 scripts edited
Ayakashibito - Fully translated, 36956/50995 (72.47%) lines edited, Touko route done
>Cannonball - 22032/36902 (59.70%) lines translated
>Comyu - 27775/51433 (54%) lines translated, common/Benio route partial patch out, Hisoka route fully translated
Concerto Note - "Wakana, Shirayuki, Sayori route done"
Cross Channel - Final check finished
Dote up a Cat - 32.2% translated
>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released with all but Miu's route, TL is retiring
DRAMAtical Murder re:connect - 95%
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 97.4% translated, third partial patch out
Flyable Heart- 4673/47192 (9.9%) lines translated in new translation project
Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, patches for Shiro, Kiriha and Kanade routes released. Erika route 65% done. Haruna route 80% done.
Gensou no Avatar - ~15% translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Yahiro 4.99% translated, Kozue 20.85% translated
>Hatsuyuki Sakura - new project starting from scratch, other project has been dropped
Higanbana 2 - Fully translated, in editing
Hinomaru- 51% translated, common route patch released

>> No.11416163

>I/O - All scripts and tips translated. 110/249 scripts and 50/256 tips edited
Ikikoi - Fully translated, 2 active editors working on it
Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,365/51,100 (84.86%) lines translated, going through revision, partial patch going through chapter 6 planned
>Killer Queen: New translation started from scratch, 34/72 scripts translated and 18/72 scripts edited
Koichoco- 188/397 files translated, 129/397 files edited, Common/Chisato routes fully translated
Koiken Otome - 39.00% translated
Kono Mama ja, Ane to SEX Shite Shimau - 14.4%
>Kourin no Machi - 11239/36959 (30.4%) lines translated
Kud Wafter - 9836/33132 (29.69%) lines translated
>Kurukuru Fanatic - 36.25%. translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 85% translated
Majikoi A- Sayaka patch released, Benkei 40% translated
Majikoi S- Monshiro, Margit, Kokoro, and Tsubame routes patch out, Momoyo 44% translated, 44% edited
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 830.20/1221.01 (67.99%) kb translated
Maman Kyoushitsu - Saera Kanzaki, Honoka Mizushima, and Mimeri routes patch released, ~8 scenes left in Emiko route
Mashiro Iro Symphony - Common route 93.98% Translated
Monster Girl Quest 3 - 64116/131806 (48.6%) lines translated, 37% partial patch released
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv Alternative TDA 00 - Patch out covering Chicken Diver
Nursery Rhyme - 13465/34410 (39.13%) translated
Oreimo PSP - 249/299 scripts translated, 98/299 through TLC+Editing
Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, part 23 out
PersonA - 36% translated
Princess Maker 5- ~90%, translation progress stalled while putting together a beta patch
Pure Pure- Fully translated, 77.26% edited

>> No.11416164

Rance 4.1 - 5% translated
Rance 5D- 85% complete, awaiting engine tools
Rance 6 - 53% Complete
Real Imouto - 7294/16108 (45.28%) translated
Rose Guns Days 2 - 95% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 3341/14309 (23.3%) lines translated
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Fully translated, 1 route of editing and technical problems remain
Shuukaku no Juunigatsu winter - 80% translated, 42% edited, trial version out
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- Fully translated and edited
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 10- 13/18 scripts translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 39760/53562 (74.2%) lines translated and 39267/53562 (73.3%) lines edited
Sukisho! - First Limit - 51% translated
>Supreme Candy - 5307/43261 (12.3%) lines translated
>Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 1308.4/4560 (28.69%) translated
To Heart2- 65% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Toradora PSP - 76.1% translated
>Toushin Toshi II - 83.4% translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 54% edited, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 19.76%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 57.47%, Motoka 23.08%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Your Diary- Prologue patch released, common route fully translated, 11/19 scripts translated for Yua's route, 1/10 scrpts translated of Kanade's route

>> No.11416167

>>11416164

>> No.11416170

Official work

MangaGamer
>Eroge - Released
>Bukkake Ranch: October 18th release
Ef: The Latter Tale - "Second Beta complete, waiting on final bug fix and image edits."
Touma Kojirou no Tantei File - 100% translated, in Scripting
Chou Dengeki Stryker - In scripting
D2B vs Deardrops - In scripting
Really? Really! - In scripting
Demon Master Chris - Demo released, fully TL, in editing
Milles - 37% translated
Imouto Paradise - 71% translated, 39% edited
Princess Evangile - 27% translated, 24% edited
Ruby Striker - Release ready
Warrior Princess Asuka - Editing complete
Boob Wars 2 - Translation and editing complete
Cartagra - Initial TL going through revision
Kara no Shoujo 2 - picked up
Armored Warrior Iris - 38% translated
Valkyrie Svia - 4% translated
Space Pirate Sara - In Translation
Free Friends - Picked up
Free Friends 2 - Picked up
Da Capo 3 - Picked up both R and R ~X Rated~


JAST
Steins;Gate - Picked up, top priority to release
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Being translated by Aroduc
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- In translation
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Sekai project to do the TL
Osadai fandisc - In Translation
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Other
Danganronpa - NISA in early 2014
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
The Night of Kamaitachi - release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.org/

>> No.11416174

>>11416163
>I/O - All scripts and tips translated. 110/249 scripts and 50/256 tips edited

Should be 123/249 scripts edited.

>> No.11416180

best thread of the week is finally here!

>> No.11416177

Any torrent for eroge ?

>> No.11416183

Forever forgotten.

>> No.11416187

It's been a while since F/HA was green.

>> No.11416196

>Hatsuyuki Sakura - new project starting from scratch, other project has been dropped

Well, it died: http://vnsociety.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/thank-you-and-sorry/

>> No.11416202

>>11416187
At least that extra 0.1% shows it's still moving.

>> No.11416206

>>11416187
we're still on track for a 2025 release, I pray for whatever poor souls are going to try and edit that crowdsourced mess

>> No.11416221

>>11416196
The editor of that and the Higanbana translator are working on a new project since that died

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>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released with all but Miu's route, TL is retiring

lemme guess, the TL lacks enough taste to enjoy girls like Miu?

>> No.11416246

>>11416170
Whats Eroge like? is it even worth my time?

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ay FUK bich bet u cant ban me for i spread me SHIT all over u

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*spreads the turds all over your face*

FUCK vnts

FUCK mods

>> No.11416260

So did anyone play the partial of comyu? whats it like?
Also is there any info at all about steins gate?

>> No.11416265

>>11416237

Actually, Insem claims that Miu was his favorite girl. He simply became too much a normalfag to keep on translating. Fucking loser.

>> No.11416271

>>11416260
Delays to arrange the LE bonuses or something.

>> No.11416272

can you fuck the blond women in the back and is there any milfs you can do?

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>>11416265

shut the FUCK up

>> No.11416273 [DELETED] 

>>11416262
Keep up the good work niggy!

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Does she have a route? and how many sex scenes?

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*pflflyrbtrbtthth*

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>> No.11416301

>>11416271
LE bonuses? and where did you hear this, how big of a delay? Ive been waiting a very long time now.. its fully translated and edited, should be out already..

>> No.11416336

>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released with all but Miu's route, TL is retiring
This is not accurate, he CLAIMED to have translated all the routes but Miu, which is a lie, and the partial patch is only common route and Elina route only.
Insem once again troll his entire fanbase and fucks us over. Thank god he's retiring

>> No.11416344

>>11416196
And is reborn:
http://umikazetranslations.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/changing-things-up/

>> No.11416345

>>11416301
Just check the JAST twitter account.

>> No.11416351

>>11416344
Before you ask, we were planning our own project before the first one was dropped.

>> No.11416376

So guys how is the translation of air? Hs anybody read it yet? the anime was known to be a bad adaption when the vn was considered the best key vn. is the ending more explained? should i read the beta or wait for the complete patch? There is no machine translation in it right?

>> No.11416386

I kind of want to read Eroge, what is wrong with me?

>> No.11416384

>>11416336
It's sad enough that he had a fanbase to begin with.

>> No.11416388

>>11416384
There are still people defending him even after all this that's the sad part.

>> No.11416389

>>11416386
It has good art and sexy women and the protag sounds fun.

>> No.11416391

Will I ever live to see the day Fate/ Hollow Ataraxia is translated?

>> No.11416404

>>11416376
>is the ending more explained?
The anime was a confusing mess because of the 13 episodes treatment as compared to Kanon's 26 episodes and Clannad's bazillion episodes.

>> No.11416425

>>11416196
> 1. Life- I am extremely busy with life, not just at work but even during my free time. I have made many friends and spend a lot of my time text messaging… simply put some would say I got a life.
> 2. Loss of passion for visual novels-
I have lost passion for visual novels, anime, everything subculture as I am starting to come to terms with my adulthood, which holds little interest in subculture.

If you've reached the point in your life where you're translating visual novels, then haven't you pretty much gone past the point where you care about having a normal life?

Regardless, it seems like this will be better in the long run for anyone looking forward to a Hatsuyuki Sakura translation.

>> No.11416439

>>11416351
When do you guys think you'll be finished by? Any plans for partial patches?

>> No.11416441

>>11416439
Late 2014

No partials planned.

>> No.11416442

>>11416404
Well I know that, it was very fucking confusing and depressing at the same time. All i remember is some shit about the mc turning into a crow randomly and in the end they both fucking died and were reborn as kids or some shit. Are the other routes for the characters different in the game? im guessing the vn is super different right? Are all the routes worth playing as they have their own stories?

>> No.11416464

>>11416404
You'll be forced to play all routes before you're allowed to advance to the final part of the game.
You should know that the full game and 13 episodes are very different in many ways.

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*fart* *poot*

>> No.11416488

>>11416464
Alright well that good. but hows the beta translation? is it decent? is it kanons level or clannads at least? Also this is the only translation now right? the other group gave up?

>> No.11416489

>>11416439
I don't have a date at the moment, but probably sometime in 2014. Hoping to finish the trial this year.

As for partial patches, there will definitely be a trial patch (translates the prologue.) Patches every couple routes are a possibility.

>> No.11416494

>>11416488
Just do you reps and you won't have to deal with shitty tls.

>> No.11416505

>>11416494
Soory but i dont have the time. I just want o know, its not machine translated right? thats really the only factor i care about.

>> No.11416506

>>11416488
Just play it yourself and report back to us.

>> No.11416508

>>11416505
just wait for sheetas tl

im sure she'll be done in another year!

>> No.11416511

>>11416508
I thought that was machine translated and she stopped doing it.

>> No.11416604

>>11416511
It was the other translation that was machine tld

>> No.11416622

>>11416604
everything is machine translated

>> No.11416624

>>11416604
Your sentence is machine tled.

>> No.11416646

>>11416624
>It has not been sub fan means my post

>> No.11416920

>>11416260
JAST twitter said "Soon. Just getting some things together." on Wednesday. Other than that, nothing.

>> No.11416939

having watched this thread in a while. It's nice that translators are putting attention on the PSP. There is nothing more confy than playing a VN or dating sim on a portable while in bed. Pity that Amagami is going at such a slow pace...

>> No.11416967

I wish Kirby wasn't dead.

>> No.11417030

>Rose Guns Days 2 - 95% translated

God fucking dammit, It's been 95% for over a month. Guess I'm the only one that cares?

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>>11417030

FUCK my TURDS in you mouth

>> No.11417074

>>11417030
if you have done your reps you wouldnt be waiting now

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>>11417030

just remember how many months it was at 25%.

>> No.11417097

>>11417074
Why learn a dead language with no marketability? It's easier to just wait for translations or just give up on reading chinese porn games and nothing of value is lost.

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>>11417074
>>11417092

AY

>> No.11417125

>>11417097
If you seriously enjoy the medium it's worth the time investment to learn the language and increase your options exponentially (as well as the quality of what you read, since VN translations are awful).

What kind of autist only leans a language because of its "marketability"?

>> No.11417326

>>11417125
Someone with zero talent for languages. Also someone who's entire experience with study is in schools where everything is about "getting a good job after graduation."

He probably couldn't even learn the kana.

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>>11417326

>talent

It really pisses me off when people use this word. Only dumb people do it. Did you know you have a talent for being dumb?

>> No.11417343

>>11417335
Different people understand things at different rates. You can obviously make up for a lack of talent with hard work, but there are always going to be people who can grasp something in a second but it took you all night to learn.

>> No.11417346

>>11417335
Do you not believe innate talent exists?

Some people are better at learning languages than others, and some people couldn't gain fluency in a new language if they worked at it their whole lives.

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>>11417343
>>11417346

I've had this argument maybe five times and I'm not having it again. Go browse the archive. Anyway you're wrong and need to stop blaming your lack of success on lack of success on 'talent'. It's out of your control but not for that reason.

>> No.11417350 [DELETED] 

>>11417346
>and some people couldn't gain fluency in a new language if they worked at it their whole lives.

Unless you're talking about people with mental retardation, this is wrong.

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hi

>> No.11417356

>>11417349
I've been successful at learning Japanese because of my talent with languages. Same as with Spanish when I studied that.

>>11417350
I'm considering adults, not children or teenagers.

>> No.11417359 [DELETED] 

>>11417356

speak some ninhogo for us :)

>> No.11417358 [DELETED] 

>>11417356

Unless you're talking about people with senility, you are still wrong.

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>>11417356

Are you that guy who spams XDDD and thinks he's incredibly smart?

I don't know anyone else who browses this board and would think they're a savant genius at languages because they learned Japanese and Spanish.

>> No.11417368

>>11417359
俺はこのサイトに毎日戻ることが分からない。

>>11417358
If you say so.

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>>11417346
I guarantee that you will be able pick up japanese if you have a japanese gf.
A lots of time, having a huge resolved and motivation is the difference between an under achiever and a genius.

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>>11416162
>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released with all but Miu's route, TL is retiring
>TL is retiring

>> No.11417375

>>11417349
I have talent, though. It basically ruined me for life.

Everything has always come naturally to me. I've never needed to study, so I spent my time goofing off, skipping lectures, and then cramming everything an hour before exams and passing without issue. Because of this, I never learned self-discipline. I can't open a text book unless there's a deadline looming, which means learning another language is impossible for me.

>> No.11417379

>>11417366
>savant genius
I never said that. I said talent exists. By which I mean that, in my experience, it's much easier for me to learn grammar and vocabulary than it is for my peers.

That's not to say there aren't people who are even better than me. I knew one guy who was learning Japanese, Chinese, and Korean all at the same time and he was top of the class in all three, as an English native speaker.

Humans are not all born equal.

>> No.11417381

>>11417125
You're the autist for learning a language because of chinese porn games.

>> No.11417384

>>11417375
I was lucky that my parents pushed me hard as a kid so I never developed such bad habits that I couldn't correct them on my own. By the time I graduated from university I'd mostly dealt with it. Don't give up though, you can beat those bad habits as long as you keep trying.

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>>11417375

You're one of those 'I'm brilliant but lazy' people.

I need to hide your posts, this is too much.

>> No.11417389 [DELETED] 

>>11417379

>By which I mean that, in my experience, it's much easier for me to learn grammar and vocabulary than it is for my peers.

no you imagined that because you have a colossal ego and want to think you're special at something because your environment tells you otherwise

ps: being better at something than 'your peers' does not mean you are better at it than 'the average person', and being better at somethign than 'the average person' also sometimes does not mean you are 'good' at that 'thing'


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>> No.11417393 [DELETED] 

>>11417385

Excuse me?

In 7th grade, I took an SAT test without preparing for it at all, it was spur-of-the-moment, I knew about it about an hour ahead of time and didn’t do any research or anything. I scored higher on it than the average person using it to apply for college in my area.

An IQ test has shown me to be in the 99.9th percentile for IQ. This is the highest result the test I was given reaches; anything further and they’d consider it to be within the margin of error for that test.

My mother’s boyfriend of 8 years is an aerospace engineer who graduated Virginia Tech. At the age of 15, I understand physics better than him, and I owe very little of it to him, as he would rarely give me a decent explanation of anything, just tell me that my ideas were wrong and become aggravated with me for not quite understanding thermodynamics. He’s not particularly successful as an engineer, but I’ve met lots of other engineers who aren’t as good as me at physics, so I’m guessing that’s not just a result of him being bad at it.

I’m also pretty good at engineering. I don’t have a degree, and other than physics I don’t have a better understanding of any aspect of engineering than any actual engineer, but I have lots of ingenuity for inventing new things. For example, I independently invented regenerative brakes before finding out what they were, and I was only seven or eight years old when I started inventing wireless electricity solutions (my first idea being to use a powerful infrared laser to transmit energy; admittedly not the best plan).

I have independently thought of basically every branch of philosophy I’ve come across. Every question of existentialism which I’ve seen discussed in SMBC or xkcd or Reddit or anywhere else, the thoughts haven’t been new to me. Philosophy has pretty much gotten trivial for me; I’ve considered taking a philosophy course just to see how easy it is.

>> No.11417400

>>11417349
Are you actually saying that there is no such thing as innate talent? Really? Are you really that fucking stupid.
Are you saying someone like Ludwig van Beethoven didn't have innate talent? It was all just hard work.

>> No.11417401

>>11417389
Yeah, okay dude.

>>11417393
Oh Christ I'm going to be lumped in with you now.

>> No.11417406

>>11417393

I did all of that when I was five, and I drive a Lambo, and I have a huge penis and am dating three super-models.

I'm glad that I am in good company with fellow geniuses here in /jp/. I'll see you at the Successful People's Club next Friday for the big party then?

We can fly there with our private jets. Don't be late.

>> No.11417403

>>11417358
It's actually next to impossible for most adults to learn japanese unless they dedicate several hours each day to it.

>> No.11417408

>>11417393

Can we carry the rest of this conversation on in at least six different languages?

No?

That's cute. Math is for losers.

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>>11417393
Yet you are still here in /jp/.

>> No.11417411

>>11417381
Uh, no, choosing to do something because of personal interest and because you enjoy it isn't autistic. Choosing to do something just because you believe some sort of objective metric has determined it will be more beneficial to your prospects in the future, and avoiding doing things you may enjoy because the same metric says they aren't beneficial, is autistic.

>> No.11417412

>>11417408
>Math is for losers.
Keep telling yourself that while I make 300k a year with my math phd

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>>11417400

You have it mixed up your head. People's environments can make them better at things. Your brain's neurons might be arrayed more optimally at birth than somebody else's, making you better at thinking, for example. Tracing the temporal trajectories each of the particles in those neurons back, you'll find their 'momentum' originates from the first thing that ever happened, whatever that was. It's where the responsibility for everything that came after lies. But anyway, you can be better at things because of your environment and not because of some invisible or abstract factor assigned to you at birth.

>> No.11417417

>>11417393

>boyfriend
>8 years

What a slut. You should use your super ingenuity to get her a husband.

>> No.11417421

>>11417413
So you don't believe in innate talent yeah ok you really are a moron. I just wanted to check
Sure most people can learn japanese if they try but to go to the fucking extremes of saying there is no such thing as innate talent just so you can criticize someone who is using an excuse for being lazy is just too fucking stupid

>> No.11417422

>>11417412

Cool, maybe that 300k will somehow make you live beyond a hundred years old and be young again.

>> No.11417423

>>11417413
Are you seriously arguing that talent is 100% environmental and 0% genetic?

That's not even close to reality. You need to brush up on your psychology.

>> No.11417424

>>11417413
There's bound to be plenty of genetic variation in the physiology of neurons, though. Maybe certain genes impact neuronal plasticity and how easily the brain can form new connections, leading to people who can remember things with less repetition.

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>>11417421

No, it doesn't. It's bad terminology/thinking. If a planet is being absorbed by a star you wouldn't say it's talented at being absorbed - that's just momentum taking its course. People use words like 'talent' in an almost religious and nebulous sense when what it's describing is really very mechanical.

>> No.11417428

>>11417417
>>11417417
>>11417417

This. I don't know how you could have even survived in such a house of shame.

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>>11417423

Genetics are environmental too, you know. Even your body is part of your environment, including your DNA, and the DNA that helped make you. The only thing that's 'you' is your consciousness. I think, therefore I am, and all. Even though your brain is what makes your consciousness, even your brain is part of your environment and its structure, including your thoughts, feelings and decisions are decided by factors outside your control.

>> No.11417432

>>11417427
>No, it doesn't. It's bad terminology/thinking. If a planet is being absorbed by a star you wouldn't say it's talented at being absorbed
Please stop talking. You stopped making any sense 3 posts ago.

>> No.11417433

>>11417431
Am I being trolled? Or are you actually serious?

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>>11417432

>You stopped making any sense 3 posts ago.

You might not be very talented at thinking.

>> No.11417435

>>11417427
So this all stems from you not really understanding what the word talent means.

Did your mother always tell you that there was no such thing as talent every time you came home with some embarrassment like a B on your report card?

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>>11417433

Of course I'm serious. Do you have a response? It should be really easy if there's such a huge gap in logic that you think I'm joking.

>>11417435

>Did your mother always tell you that there was no such thing as talent every time you came home with some embarrassment like a B on your report card?

I was home schooled, silly.

>> No.11417439

>>11417432
>>11417433

>3 posts ago

From the very first post. As soon as he started talking about being smarter than engineers and using lasers, you should have realized it was a troll.

>> No.11417444

>>11417393
>I’m also pretty good at engineering. I don’t have a degree, and other than physics I don’t have a better understanding of any aspect of engineering than any actual engineer, but I have lots of ingenuity for inventing new thing (...)
You're not describing engineering, you're describing inventing there. Engineering is all about finding numbers, and manipulating and maximising/minimizing them.

It's about making things practical, the keyword being practical. Until you put numbers on how much power your laser takes, and what efficiency it can run at, you're not practising engineering.

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>>11417439

That wasn't me. Do you see a Kiniro Mosaic image on that post?

>> No.11417442

>>11417431
You're being pedantic. Nobody likes a pedant.

Stop.

>> No.11417448 [DELETED] 

Is anyone here addicted to cumming?

>> No.11417446 [DELETED] 

>>11417444

Crunching numbers is what bad wage-slave engineers do, and inventing new concepts is what world-class highly-paid engineers do.

>> No.11417447

>>11417444
You do realise that it's quite an old copipe you're responding to? Sorry for any embarrassment you might suffer from having this revealed to you!

>> No.11417449

>>11417438
>It should be really easy if there's such a huge gap in logic that you think I'm joking.
You said genetics are environmental and then went on to say a load of bullshit about consciousness as well.
There is your huge gap in logic and basic knowledge and neurology and psychology.

>> No.11417451

>>11417446
Steve Jobs please go back to sleep.

>> No.11417452

>>11417448
Very much so. Whenever I find anything erotic, I have to start fapping. Luckily, my tastes have warped so considerably that anything remotely vanilla does nothing for me, so it's fairly easy to avoid. I jerk off around 7-12 times a day.

>> No.11417454

>>11417446
Keep deluding yourself, high-school dropout.

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>>11417449

What do you mean? You understand that things like your DNA and thoughts are produced by the interaction of elementary particles, and that they're not some kind of magical concept, right?

>> No.11417459 [DELETED] 

>>11417455

I want to be Karen's subordinate Daimyo!

>> No.11417463 [DELETED] 

>>11417452
I jerked off three times in a day once but my penis hurt so I stopped

>> No.11417464

>>11417463
Pussy.

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I'm glad those miscreants thought better of continuing their argument with me. They obviously didn't know who they were messing with.

>> No.11417469

>>11417463
Really? I guess it depends on how long it takes you to finish, I guess if you had a few 5 hour edging sessions you might start to chafe.

The most dangerous part of fapping for me is just after I finish, if I happen to see something that catches my eye or I'm reading something particularly good, I'll go right back to fapping.

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Fucking /a/ crossboarding scum who doesn't know how to choose appropriate image formats please leave.

>> No.11417474

>>11417455
There's a word for that kind of thinking: Determinism. And Determinism has been proven wrong already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

>> No.11417477 [DELETED] 

>>11417474

What exactly do you think 'proves' it wrong? I'm not going to read that entire Wikipedia article just to find out it doesn't actually have a rebuttal.

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>>11417477

Whew, I forgot my Kiniro Mosaic picture. Sorry.

>> No.11417481 [DELETED] 

>>11417474

I don't understand how acknowledging that thoughts are produced by the migration of electrons to neighboring neurons has anything to do with determinism, by the way. But the thing I said earlier about thoughts being predetermined is, sure.

>> No.11417482

>>11417477
The main point is that current thinking on the effect of environmental and genetic factors on behavior is that it's neither entirely environmental or genetic, it's a mix of about 50% of each.

For something like talent, it's partly environmental and partly genetic. To seriously claim otherwise is to go against modern scientific consensus and decades of research.

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>>11417482

>The main point is that current thinking on the effect of environmental and genetic factors on behavior is that it's neither entirely environmental or genetic, it's a mix of about 50% of each.


Yes, 'nature-versus-nurture'. They are using 'environment' differently from how I am. My definition of 'environment' includes genetics too, and it's perfectly rational to do so.

>To seriously claim otherwise is to go against modern scientific consensus and decades of research.

You don't understand. Yes, I know genes can make you better at things. I am saying that genes are also part of your environment.

>> No.11417492

>>11417490
Which is where Determinism comes in. You're making that argument, and it's pedantic. You're essentially admitting that talent exists, but don't want to lose the debate so you're engaging in sophistry to muddy the waters with philosophizing, with which you've managed to derail the thread. Good job. 10/10.

>> No.11417495

>>11417490
>My definition of 'environment' includes genetics too, and it's perfectly rational to do so.
>I am saying that genes are also part of your environment.

And you're just retarded. This all comes back to a fundamental misunderstanding of the definition of words, like how you think talent means something that it doesn't too.

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>>11417492

I think you're just insulting me now. You should remember it's not good to do that in an argument!

It's better to tell me how I'm wrong than to say I'm a buttface sophistrist and also I smell of butts.

>> No.11417497

>>11417477
>What exactly do you think 'proves' it wrong?

Quantum physics.

>> No.11417505

>>11417438
>I was home schooled, silly.
Well, that explains everything.

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>>11417497

Isn't this the fourth time you've said this thing about quantum randomness disproving determinism? Don't you remember what I told you the last times where you just stopped arguing after I said it?

Well, I assume it was you at least most of those times anyway.

>> No.11417502

>>11417497
If quantum physics cannot be determined, then USB drives wouldn't work half the time because it relies on quantum mechanics.

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>>11417506

Darn, it worked again.

>> No.11417514

>>11417502
There's so many falsities and misunderstandings in what you said that explaining them all to you would be counterproductive. Let's just say you're retarded and work our way from that.

>> No.11417518

>>11417506
This may be the fourth time someone told you you're ignorant about this topic, but the previous three wasn't me.

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>>11417514

I think you got really upset because you couldn't prove me wrong. And that's okay. You shouldn't be ashamed at this frustration or at losing the argument. It was all pre-determined.

>> No.11417522

>>11417496
You've already refused to educate yourself further on your own position, and any time someone tries to correct your logic you retreat into quibbling over definitions. That's sophistry.

Go hit your mother for me, she did a horrible job of educating you.

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>>11417518

Huh? I didn't say anyone called me ignorant four times, I said they stopped arguing after I said something four times.

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>>11417522

Sorry, I'm not going to read an entire wikipedia article rather than having you quote the relevant part.

>> No.11417530

>>11417523
From the looks of it, it's the fourth time you're trying to bore someone to death with your (possibly intentional) idiocy and pretend that it won you this particular argument.

>> No.11417532

>>11417530
I think at this point we have to seriously consider that he might just be one of those "epic trolls" we've all heard so much about on the news.

>> No.11417576

its probably time for all parties involved to recognize that you've scarred the best thread of the week with your irrelevant bullshit and slay yourselves accordingly

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>>11417576

I don't care about VNTS' thread. He only comes here once a week and he always bans me a bunch when he does it. The dude is a jerk.

>> No.11417594

>>11417584
It's always gotta be about you.

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>>11417594

What?

If somebody shows up to your town once a week to hand out cotton candy, but they also take a shit on your porch, would you hate or like that person?

>> No.11417604

>>11417596
He bans you because you're a permanently banned poster who evades dozen of bans a week who pretty much exists solely to draw attention to himself.

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>>11417604

>He bans you because you're a permanently banned poster who evades dozen of bans a week who pretty much exists solely to draw attention to himself.

Wow, you were wrong about everything you said in that sentence!

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>>11417606

You also didn't answer the question by the way!

>> No.11417654

No SubaHibi, no Sayonara wo Oshiete and no Mahoyo progress.

This was a bad week, although I/O advanced quite nicely.

>> No.11417682 [DELETED] 

>>11417654

MY COCK

>> No.11417702

>>11417606
Everything I said there is accurate. You are permanently banned, you get rebanned on a regular basis, and all you ever post in /jp/ is your signature shit posts and threads.

You can keep denying it, but everybody who's been paying any attention to /jp/ for the last year already knows these, so I don't know why you actually bother.

>> No.11417712

/jp/ - genetics, the heredity of talent, quantum physics, and avatarfagging

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>>11417702

>You are permanently banned

Nope.

>you get rebanned on a regular basis

This isn't what you said. You were more specific than that. Please do not backpedal!

>and all you ever post in /jp/ is your signature shit posts and threads.

This is actually subjective. I think my threads are great! Also, your original statement was totally different from what kinds of threads I post.

>> No.11417720

>>11417712
Every time I want to talk about VN I end up in empty thread.

>> No.11417725

>>11417720
>VN
The whole medium is declining just like 2hu.
When was the last time you actually play a kamige?
Why do you think all the TLers are retiring and becoming normalfags? The games are no longer good.

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>>11417725
>something like グリザイアの果実 wins the Gran Pri of Moe Game Awards
>when was the last time you actually play a kamige?
>mfw you're right

>> No.11417759

I think there are a lot of people who are interested in VN and know Japanese enough to translate them. The problem itself, more than the disinterest in VN, is the disinterest in translating; it's a lot of work: translating is much harder and tiring than just reading.

>> No.11417788 [DELETED] 

>>11417759
>translating is much harder and tiring than just reading.

thanks no one else knew this

thx for wisdom

>> No.11417853

>>11417725
Visual novels are doing fine if you care more about feeling happy and masturbating than story.

>> No.11417878

i think its more that most people in the scene have found how distasteful eops are and have decided that the epeen they get from them just isnt worth it

>> No.11418011

>>11416425
>I have lost passion for visual novels, anime, everything subculture as I am starting to come to terms with my adulthood, which holds little interest in subculture.
or, to translate it more accurately
>i'm trying to fit in, so i pretend to suddenly hate/not care for everything. look at me, i'm suddenly so normal and mature.

>> No.11418020

>>11417759

Just look at korean and specially chinese comunities. They are so dedicated that it depresses me seeing how the west it's so "meh, I don't wanna try"

I'm learning japanese to have better job opportunities and read stuff directly from the source, but I'm a beginner. When I get enough level I'll inmediatly join a translation project. Gotta improve the community.

>> No.11418033

>>11416425

Nt even finishing what you start...

>> No.11418040

You guys, a bit of weekly trolling is fine, but what kind of retards falls for a 'you should learn Japanese' troll in a VNTS thread, let alone get into a pages-long flamewar about it? You guys are free to discuss the advantages and difficulties of learning another language, but please don't do it in the VNTS thread.

>> No.11418047

What is considered "enough" level to start translating something?

>> No.11418045

>>11418033
That's the problem with the current attitude towards VN translators: Pick something up and you get your cock sucked, finish something and people will be shitting all over you. Lots of incentive to start, no incentive to finish.

>> No.11418054

>>11418020
lol you wont learn japanese

>> No.11418063

>>11418047
If you have to ask, I don't think you should even try.

>> No.11418072

>>11418045

So translators pick somethng to get their dicks sucked? If you love a VN and want to share it with other people that's a worthy reason to start a translation, not the former. I'm not denying that you can enjoy your bits of gratefulness from other people but your main objective should be sharing what you like. No matter how you share it.

If the other people are dumb enough to not even recognize the amount of work you put through the process of translating, then you should only care about people who recognize it. We all know the world is full of pricks, hypocrites and other scum and that's we end up distancing ourselves from the world, in different levels. But the internet is also full of those... what's the difference? that you can choose to don't give a fuck about those without consequences so use that ability to ignore the scum.

>> No.11418074

>>11418054

k m8

>> No.11418094

>>11418072
>So translators pick somethng to get their dicks sucked?
Some do. Those are the translators that pick up something, translate for a bit, then drop the translation and disappear.

>But the internet is also full of those... what's the difference?
Nobody will run up to you in real life only to shout in your face that what you did was crap, what you like is crap, and you and anybody who likes the same things you do is homosexual. Haters (frequently people who don't actually hate the thing itself but just want to rile people up) are tons and tons more vocal than people who are grateful towards translators.

>> No.11418103

monstergirl VN translations when?

>> No.11418143

>>11418103
Hopefully never.

>> No.11418153

>>11418143
God, MGQ was bad enough.

>> No.11418305

What the hell happened to Your Diary project?

>> No.11418330

How much longer until Toradora is finished?

>> No.11418341

>>11418047
Please don't even try.

>> No.11419536

>>11417759
This. It's a lot of work to translate a VN and unless you're really interested in releasing your work for free, there's almost no pay off.

I'd love to do nothing but translate VN if I had some kind of minimum income or a job doing it, or if localization companies were easier to get in contact with.

>> No.11419543

>>11418072
There are a lot of barriers to entry in translating VN, not the least of which is extracting the script files and then making a patch. The tools are not easy to use for tech illiterates.

>> No.11419592

What's the URL of updates on AAI2? Quick googling only shows updated in a gbatemp thread that was from multiple months ago, is there more up to date information?

>> No.11420139

Is Cudder doing anything laughworthy?

>> No.11420151

>>11420139
He's moved to Fuwanovel, who, by the way, were taken down because Aaeru was running pirated forum software.

>> No.11420161

>>11420151
lmao.

>> No.11420165

>>11420151
Good. What a bunch of clowns.

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>>11416162
Is there still no torrent for Eroge.

>> No.11420388

>>11420386

Buy it and support MG!

>> No.11420392

>>11420388
I bought kara no shoujo.
that's all the support they deserve.

>> No.11420412

>>11420386
if you had done your reps you wouldn't be in such a situation!

>> No.11420414 [DELETED] 

>>11417335
>>11417343
>>11417349
>>11417356
>>11417369
>>11417375
>>11417366
>>11417379
>>11417400
>>11417389
>>11417401
>>11417413
>>11417421
>>11417431

Can someone explain why the "talent" debate gets people so angry?

It's like solipsism. Maybe talent/the world do/don't exist, but those really aren't going to change anybody's behavior. We're still going to act like everything exists, and that interesting things are worth working for, so who gives a fuck?

Also, the homeschool fuck who deleted all your posts: quit breathing.

>> No.11420551

>>11420414
Please delete your post so that shitty line of discussion doesn't resume. If you must ask, start a new thread.

>> No.11420666

Are there -any- signs of Daiteikoku being picked up? Really liked Sengoku Rance and Big Bang Age and was hoping to play something similar.

>> No.11420675

>>11420666
lol

learn japanese

>> No.11420683

>>11420666
Then you don't want to play Daiteikoku.

>> No.11420692

>>11420666
Someone would have to be some kind of diehard AliceSoft fan to translate something that bad with that much text.

>> No.11420758

>>11416967
I'm not dead, I'm hibernating.

>> No.11420892

>>11416967
I wish Kirby was really dead.

>> No.11420909

Did someone ever pickup the AnoHana VN or euphoria ?

>Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 90%, editing 65%

Can't wait

>> No.11421016

>>11420909
isn't that for the first 1 or 2 cases? that's what i remember seeing on their forum.

>Nothing has been released yet, but from what I read the patch of the first 2 cases will come soon.

>> No.11421323

>>11420683
>>11420692
I've never understood all the hate Daiteikoku receives, it's always "it's bad".

>> No.11421351

>>11416177
>>11420386
I found this. Don't know if it's legit.
sukebei.nyaa . se/?page=view&tid=316233

>> No.11421355

>>11421351
Well, it's the right size at least.

>> No.11421498

I wish somebody would pick up "Harumade, Kururu." An ichaicha harem game that genre shifts to serious sci-fi sounds unique.

>> No.11421549

>>11421498
>sounds unique
>what is Muv-Luv

>> No.11421570

>>11421549
harukuru is hardcore scifi, not the shit that muv-luv tries to handle

>> No.11421579

>>11421570
And how would you know without having completed it? It might be worse for all you know.

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>>11421579
But I have read it...

>> No.11421605

>>11421351
It's legit. Just fapped to it a bunch, translated nukige really are the best.

>> No.11421611

>>11421605
Yeah I finished downloading it just now as well
Well, have fun, I guess.

>> No.11421821

Eroge flowchart when?

>> No.11421845

>>11421821
Pick the girl you want. Enjoy the sex scenes. There's probably a route if you pick all of them equally too.

>> No.11421906

>>11421845
can you choose the trap?

>> No.11421950

>>11421821

It's a nukige and not Yu-No. You click on the girl you like and you recieve a sex scene.

>>11421906

There is no route for the trap afaik, but you can engage in homosexual activities with him.

>> No.11421980

Will we ever have Baldr Sky?

>> No.11422000

>>11421980
Isn't it shitty like MuvLuv?

>> No.11422004

>>11422000
But kusoge are fun, anon!

>> No.11422485

>>11417654
>SubaHibi and Sayonara not moving
Is that supposed to be a news?
wav translates just when he doesn't have anything else to do.

>> No.11422508

>>11422485
No, he doesn't really even translate then.

>> No.11422921

>>11422000
It's not shitty because it hasn't been translated yet. All VN are kamige pre-translation and become kusoge post-translation.

>> No.11422939

>>11422921

Well, everything eops touch turns into shit, so it's only natural.

>> No.11422992

Wait, was a Dracu-Riot patch released for everything but the Miu route? All i've found is an Elina only patch.

>> No.11423021

>>11422992
Maybe you should read the thread or look at the patch's site instead of crying like a helpless infant.

>> No.11423054

>>11416170
>Starless - In translation
It's not coming out before 2014 is it

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>>11416162
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 97.4% translated, third partial patch out

>> No.11423122

>>11420666
>>11420692
> diehard AliceSoft fan


It's in the queue, just wait like 7 years.

>> No.11423217

>>11422485

See >>11420758

>> No.11423247

> Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 90%, editing 65%

Partial patch released, but I can't get it...

http://z11.invisionfree.com/court_records/index.php?showforum=26

>> No.11423265

>>11420666
Fuck that, when's Daiakuji?

>> No.11423270

>>11423265
When you find a translator willing to go through thousands of lines of hardcore guro torture rape.

>> No.11424152

>>11420692
Is it really that bad? Even worse than Daibanchou? I mean, Daibanchou was a bit tedious at times, but still decent, like a 6/10 game.

>> No.11425180

>>11424152
Daibanchou was pretty good.

>> No.11425647

Is there a re censoring tool for eroge? I really hate these poorly done genital. I have been playing eroge after eroge for the past month and am at my wits end. I prefer censoring.

>> No.11425659

>>11425647
Assuming tools are available for the game you could probably just extract the Japanese CG and stick it back in the English version. If tools aren't already available you're probably out of luck, unless you happen to have enough reverse engineering knowledge to do the hacking yourself, but if you're asking this question at all I'm gonna guess no you don't.

>> No.11426628
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Meikyuu translation begun

>> No.11426632

>>11426628
My body isn't ready.

>> No.11427472

http://tindabox.net/irclog

some epic ixrec bullying on right now

>> No.11427476

>>11427472
can you post the highlights???

>> No.11427578

>>11426628
See you in five years.

>> No.11427708

>>11426628
It’s begun like a week ago, I think.

>> No.11427942

>>11427578

It took 1 year for koestl to translate kajitsu. Why should he need more time for a game which is much shorter?

>> No.11427969

I am going to let it all out in this post now.

>>11427472
I am seriously tired of this bullshit now.

What moogy wrote:
"anyway ixrec deserves everything he gets from now on since he decided to just randomly come out and state that good writing doesn't exist and his translations can't be bad because of this"

What Ixrec really wrote:
"This question stems from the myth that good writing is about the craftsmanship of the individual sentence... What really makes something well-written is stuff like how much detail you put into a scene, what things you choose to describe, the ratio of dialogue to exposition to action to explanation, the pacing of each scene as well as the entire story, what information you give to the reader and what you withhold, how subtlely you manage to foreshadow things, and so on."

I am honestly amazed at how seriously Moogy's word is taken and people here and on tlwiki start giving Ixrec the flak. I shouldn't even talk about the "cool guys" that hang around in #tlwiki. I am more than sure that the ones stirring the drama here and everywhere else are idiots from that channel, most of them who take Moogy and co's word at face-value.

<Moogy> ixrec needs to realize that people who aren't just random trolls disagree with him

What the above quote is saying to me is, "I want Ixrec to accept me." I occasionally go and read tlwiki's log and whenever Ixrec announces a new project, tweets something, writes a new then Moogy is the first one to copy-paste his tweets or review whatever on the channel and comment on it because he thinks he has an obligation to berate Ixrec himself, his taste's and his opinions. Then Moogy is nearly always the person to be the first one to comment on Ixrec's reviews. If he holds such animosity toward Ixrec then I don't understand why he always has to go post on Amaterasu's blog.
Also, "the people" that Moogy has mentioned almost always have a relation to tlwiki. So far I haven't seen Makoto or Phar criticize Ixrec.

>> No.11427986

<Kaisos> If only his girlfriend encouraged him to improve and challenged his beliefs rather than worshipped the ground he walks on

God complex. I don't see how Kaisos' opinion has any worth. He's basing his bashing on what Moogy spoonfeed.

<Kaisos> Now please stop objecting to my posts in ways that have nothing to do with what I was actually trying to say. It's extremely irritating."
<Kaisos> TL: Don't question my worldview

There is absolutely no need for me to comment on what herkz and Kaisos say. Honestly, they are so full of bullshit. And so is Moogy.
Now, I like Ixrec. I like his guide. He is a very cool person to talk to and he doesn't tell people to go fuck off and die because they have asperger's. I am learning Japanese and I will read VNs in Japanese. And I will read translations of VNs too because I am not a US/UK native. Everyone can spew whatever BS they can about Ixrec but you guy's are not stopping me. Whatever you people say will never make me think low of Ixrec. It just goes on to tell me how bad you people are.

Now I'm ready for the "He's gay for Ixrec" jokes or like last year when I defended Ixrec some cool guy from tlwiki calling me gay for Ixrec. Haha, fun days.

>> No.11427980

>>11427969

Sheeta pls go.

>> No.11427987

>>11416162
What game is the one in OP picture?

>> No.11427989

>>11427980
Haha, alright. Sheeta lives in Asia. That's new to me.

>> No.11427992

>>11427969
>This question stems from the myth that good writing is about the craftsmanship of the individual sentence
That line was so fucking retarded it blew my mind.

>> No.11427991

>>11427987
It's eroge.

>> No.11427994

>>11427991
which eroge?

>> No.11427996

>>11427994

Eroge.

>> No.11427999

>>11427996
but which one?

>> No.11428003

>>11427992
>That line was so fucking retarded it blew my mind.
Oh yeah? I invite you to go ahead and fucking blow my mind about how it's "so fucking retarded."
As far as I can tell Ixrec was talking about how good writing is "only" judged by "the craftsmanship of the individual sentence". Then later on he expands on what good writing is and I agree with that. Would books or VNs be good to read only if they had well-written sentences while leaving out the things that Ixrec mentioned? Go ahead, find fault with what Ixrec.

>> No.11428004

>>11427999
Dude...

>> No.11428009

>>11427999
http://vndb.org/v4037

>> No.11428016

>>11427999
eroge

>> No.11428017

>>11428009
>vndb

>> No.11428023

>>11428016
oh wow I was getting the suspended from posting while a ban was queued and im still in the game lol

anyway ixrec sperg dude. I was qc under ixrec. he bitched and whined all the time about the moogster and people saying how shit his tl was. I mean this was happening back when he was doing the cross channel patch. that was the first time people started to look at his tl and see how shitty it was. they even had a private channel just for the whining

anyway the point is that ixrec is a bitch and no one should spend time worrying about that.

>> No.11428026

>>11428017
If he could read the title then he wouldn't be asking. Since he apparently can't that's why I linked him vndb's page. It's safe to assume he is unable to read Japanese. Was that so hard for you to figure?

>> No.11428033

is eroge nukige?

>> No.11428036

>>11428033
Some eroge are nukige, but not all.

>> No.11428040

>>11428036
what about eroge?

>> No.11428041

>>11428040
Which one?

>> No.11428046

>>11428041
Eroge

>> No.11428048

>>11428046
I know that, but which eroge?

>> No.11428053

>>11428048
eroge

>> No.11428055

>>11428003
Good writing is a sum of things, "craftsmanship of the individual sentence" being one part of it.
And yes good translations are actually rewrite, you'd know that if you knew more than one language.

Translating is more than replacing A by B, a language is more than a simple sum of words.
A word in Japanese for example may encompass a concept that doesn't exist per se in english for example, basically a language is the sum of the lives and custom of a set of people.
Being faithful to the original while keeping a good flow and be nice to read is an incredibly hard task if you want to do it well.

>> No.11428057

>>11428053
what eroge?

>> No.11428063

>>11428057
the Eroge one

>> No.11428073

>>11428057
The eroge called eroge.

>> No.11428086

>>11428055
I totally agree with you. Your first sentence is what Ixrec was saying. My problem was that people started reading something else into his "the craftsmanship of the individual sentence", or what we call misrepresenting someone's argument by drawing strawman.

>>11428073
Yes, Eroge is a nukige since it is high on sexual content and the story takes a backseat.
http://vndb.org/g214

>> No.11428089

>>11428086
I think you'll find that "Eroge" has no sexual content.
http://vndb.org/v870

>> No.11428102

>>11428086
>Your first sentence is what Ixrec was saying.
I don't think so considering he then went on to explain what good writing is and it was basically anything but "the craftsmanship of the individual sentence"

>> No.11428183

Ixrec is not a very good translator, and moogy is a bullshitting asshole.

>> No.11428334

>>11428183

And yet people here write ridiculously long fan/hate posts about both. It's hilarious.

>> No.11428497

>>11428334
It makes people feel good about themselves to talk shit about well known community figures.

>> No.11428512

>>11428497
Especially when they deserve it for being inexcusable assholes and incompetent.

>> No.11428521

>>11428512
You think there's some karmic justice being done by insulting some guy every day on a website he doesn't even visit? Why not just forget about him and ignore all his projects like you should be doing for all the projects that don't meet your standards. You come on here shitposting about Cudder and Insem too because they put out shit? Just seems so repetitive and pointless after a while, like any time someone mentions the person's name we gotta have some long shit flinging on the subject.

>> No.11428536

>>11428521
You're not really familiar with what was literally years of Cudder shit, are you?

>> No.11429104

>>11428536
No, I am. It was retarded and derailed way too many threads, hence why I mentioned it.

>> No.11429110

From /vg/:
>Meikyuu raw translation is now finished. If all goes well it should be edited and ready to go sometime next month.

>> No.11429117

>>11429110

Sure.

>> No.11429151

>>11429110
Fuck off, Ti9.

>> No.11429359

>>11429110
Don't be so obvious, otherwise there's no point in doing such pranks.

>> No.11429553

At least meikyuu translated will make some sense, as half of the game is in USA.

>> No.11429734
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11429734

How many sex scenes does she have? I hope a lot.

>> No.11429782

>>11429734
None because she is a pure maiden.

>> No.11429793

>>11429782
what, I hope your lying shes the best women in this. I hope she has a lot and a anal scene. does she? Also the story is actually really fun for a nukige. is the story considered good or decent?

>> No.11429795

>>11429793
Being a nukige doesn't mean something can't have a good story. Forest is a nukige and its story was hella interesting.

>> No.11429800

>>11429793

Sorry, no milfs for you.

>> No.11429805

>>11429800
you lying,... right? please.

>> No.11429821
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11429821

>Sees VNTS on the front page.
>Goes in, hoping updates.
>Gets autsitic drama.
>Is again reminded he's on /lp/.....

>> No.11429832

>>11429734
just one. and it ends in a bad end

>> No.11429845

>>11429795
>Forest is a nukige
...Was it?

>> No.11429854

>>11429845
Yeah, it obviously was.

>> No.11432073

>>11429832
what why. are you lying again.

>> No.11432084 [DELETED] 

>>11429821
epic wow bro nice story XDDD cool dude ^^ so amaze wow ur so intresting bro

>> No.11432107

>>11429832
Are you serious or are you joking? I really want to know and why. if your joking how many sex scene does she have? Why would they only add one for her in a nukige?

>> No.11432221

>>11432107
basically every heroine route has a sub heroine that will seduce you at some point, if you accept you cheat on the main heroine, you get the sub ero scene and a bad end. She's the obstacle to loli president route

>> No.11432466

Please do not respond to the milf autist.

>> No.11432477

>>11432466
I think he’s a very interesting man.

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11432635

>>11429795
>>11429845
Bullshit, Forest is nowhere near a nukige. Almost all of it is story, with only the occasional H-scene. (Do you even get more than 1 scene per character in Forest?)

>> No.11432723

>>11432221
So she only has one sex scene even though she flashed her tits in the beginning? whats her sex scene like? Why is it a bad end? do you get with the her instead of the president? I thought this was a nukige so i thought she would have a lot of sex scenes.. is she with any harem end or group sex end?

>> No.11432728

>>11432635
the purple haired women was the best girl in that, i kinda stopped reading it though, can you end with her?

>> No.11432735

>>11429795
Wow. You really have no clue what a nukige is if you can say that.

>> No.11432736

See, this is what you get if you answer milf autists questions.

>> No.11432747

>>11432723
Go bother /vg/ already.

>> No.11433421

>>11432635
You get 2 H-scenes within the first 30 minutes. It clearly was.

>> No.11433520

>>11433421
I got a H-scene with your mother within 30 seconds.

>> No.11433528

>>11433520
Dunno why people get mad when we say it's a nukige. That doesn't make it a bad game, it just means it has a large concentration of porn and was made mainly to fap. Nothing wrong with that.

>> No.11433873

>>11432728
It's basically linear, besides bad ends.

>> No.11434554

>>11433421
Starting with H-scenes doesn't say a thing. It's about the porn : non-porn content ratio, and Forest has very little porn compared to the amount of non-porn story.

>>11432735
He's not entirely wrong (except about Forest). For example, though I've never read them myself, I've heard Mugen Kairou and Euphoria both have good stories despite being nukige.

>> No.11434574

>>11434554
Pretty much all of the story existed solely to set up the porn though. That doesn't mean it wasn't interesting or well written in its own right, but it's still patently obvious that the game was meant to be first and foremost for masturbatory purposes. One of the characters even breaks the 4th wall to remark on this fact once or twice.

>> No.11434629
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11434629

>>11434574

And Dante's Inferno is a story written entirely to stroke Dante's ego.

It would be a Nukige if
1) There was more porn. There are relatively few scenes given the length of the VN.
2) They hadn't spent -so- much time on everything else. Nukiges are sex first, plot second. There was a significant amount of time and effort put into forest that had nothing to do with setting up sex. The length of the non-ero story is what distinguishes it from a nukige.

This is like calling Katahane a nukige. Did it set things up for sex? Yes. Is that all it was about? No.

>> No.11435093

http://georgehenryshaft.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/writing-week-2/

Is there any Tolkien, Lewis and Dante in Cross Channel ???

>> No.11435100

>>11435093
Wait, what? What character doesn't exist? Either I'm forgetting something or totally missed that my first time around with Ixrec's translation.

>> No.11435099

>>11435093
I wouldn't be surprised, but I haven't actually read that much of the game. I do know that romeo put in a shit ton of references to all sorts of things though.

>> No.11435102

>>11435100
I mean obviously besides Nanaka but that seems too obvious for the way he put it, no need to prove something pretty much explicitly stated.

>> No.11435104

>>11435100
Protagonist's mom

>> No.11435109

>>11435104
Oh, it was just that after all? Thought he meant another character.

>> No.11435129

I haven't been following these threads lately. What happened to 11eyes?

>> No.11435175

>>11435129
Picked by Ti9, to be released on sunday.

>> No.11435184

>>11435175
Is he any good? I dunno if I've read anything by that translator before.

>> No.11435189

>>11435184
That guy's confused. I'm an editor, I don't translate anything.

>> No.11435222

>>11435184
Hes like Moogy and Ixrec combined, with lingering Cudder seasoning.

>> No.11435289

>>11435189
Oh look, the shitposter's here.

>> No.11435306

>>11435289

No, it's our clown comes back

>> No.11435474

Steindo;Gate preorders are up.

>> No.11435481

>>11435474
Why do you think anyone would care?

>> No.11435524

>>11435129

If nothing else I'll be translating it in 4 years or so. Hopefully someone a bit faster will have done it by then.

>> No.11435566

>>11435093
Yes, there's so many references to literature in Cross Channel. It's crazy.

>> No.11435570

>>11435093
What's this website? Is someone re-translating CC or what?

>> No.11435755
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11435755

Higurashi has been greenlit.

http://vntls.org/news/mangagamers-higurashi-greenlit-on-steam/

>> No.11435784

>>11435755
For what price are they gonna sell it on steam

>> No.11435803

>>11423021
So the Dracu-riot guy put out an update saying he's translated all but one route, and reposted the same patch he released ages ago with only 1 route translated. Am I understanding this correctly?

>> No.11435810

>>11435755
and it still won't have voices, proper art, all the music files, or proper sound effects.

>> No.11435826
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11435826

>>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 97.4% translated, third partial patch out

HAPPENING

>> No.11435875

>>11435755
who would buy this shit?

>> No.11435882

>>11435810
Look at this loser, he thinks voices and proper art is necessary for a VN.

>> No.11435887

>>11435882
it is necessary for a good VN

>> No.11435941

>>11435887
For my VN experience voices are totally annoying while reading the textboxes, so i turn them off at a point. I only like them in some situations to accompany the emotional state of a character.
And most of my favorite VNs got terrible/decent art, like Phantom of Inferno or some older Liar-soft one's.

>> No.11435956

>>11435810
it doesn't need them.

Just take the pirated version, which has the proper music, the option to switch between the sprites as the user prefers, and then combine those with the up-and-coming revised translation once it gets finalized.

best of all worlds.

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>>11435941
Liar-soft's games all look far better than the shit r07 makes.

>> No.11435972

>>11435956
still missing the voices.

Higurashi's PS2 voices are great too.

>> No.11436356

they should just change majikoi's status to dropped. it's obvious it won't be continued.

>> No.11436370

>>11435826
then come 2025
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100.0% translated, third partial patch out. editing 0.05%

>> No.11436390

>>11435803
This wasn't sarcasm, I'm seriously asking here guys ;_;

>> No.11436395

>>11436390
As far as I know, one-route-only patch is only one released. There was never 3-routes patch out.

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11436402

>>11436370

>> No.11436481
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11436481

/jp/ what's a good, easy, VN to read if you're trying to learn Japanese?

>> No.11436484

>>11436356
Have hope in TakaJun. He might be busy. There might be motivational issues and whatever.
But he is persistent.

I doubt he will live out his life without completing it, granted no one beats him to the punch.

>> No.11436489

>>11436481
Moege everyday.

>> No.11436494

>>11435887
It depends on voice acting. If it's good, it clearly enhances the experience. Shit voice acting, on the other hand...

>> No.11436501

>>11436481
いつか、届く、あの空に。
きっと、澄みわたる、朝色よりも、
信天翁航海録
装甲悪鬼村正
霞外籠逗留記
俺たちに翼はない
神咒神威神楽

>> No.11436507

>>11436489
Speaking of sort of moege, how hard is Grisaia to read in Japanese?

>> No.11436513
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11436513

>>11436501
>>11436489
Thanks.

>> No.11436512

>>11436507
Grisaia isn't really written like a moege. It's actually quite verbose and requires a pretty big vocabulary.

>> No.11436523

>>11436507
>sort of moege
>Grisaia
Especially assuming you was asking about sequels, its really dumb statement.

Anyway, its fairly hard game, lots of kansai-ben, language-related jokes and military terms and whole Makina-ben. Koestl really did miracle with first game.

>> No.11436564

>>11436390
Please read again:
http://staircasesubs.com/2013/09/09/dracu-riot-partial-patch/
>Here is the partial patch. It contains Elina’s route.
>if I am unable to give one last attempt at the end of the year, we will stop beating the dead horse, release the remaining routes, and announce the official death of the project.

>> No.11436580

>>11436481
Hanahira is simplest VN I've ever read. Also its short, cute and fun.

>> No.11436793

>>11436564
Ah I feel dumb, thanks for clarifying.

>> No.11437809

>>11436513
All of >>11436501 are difficult to read.

>> No.11438084

>>11437809
They'll teach you a lot of japanese though.

>> No.11438146

>>11438084
In the same way diving into the sea teaches you how to swim.

>> No.11439544

>>11435474
Wait , did the say when its coming out?

>> No.11439708

>>11439544
"Winter 2013"

>JAST

>> No.11440446
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11440446

Please buy World End Economica, so part 2 gets translated.

>> No.11440822

>>11440446

I wouldn't even pirate WEE.

>> No.11441722

>>11436564
>Actually trusting Insem
Don't do this he probably didn't translate shit and is just trolling his fanbase, again.

>> No.11441737

Where is this week thread?

>> No.11441977

>>11436523
>Koestl really did miracle with first game.
By completely destroying all of those jokes and Makina's characterization? Yeah he did an amazing job ruining those.

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