/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Visual Novel translation status


12Riven- 29/72 scripts translated
>Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 90%, editing 65%
Air - One project released Beta patch and 60% edited, other 61.78% translated
Akatsuki no Goei - Prologue patch released, 8610 lines translated, 10/157 files edited
Amaenbo - Being translated
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "389/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (~19.78%)"
Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: "47% (579 KB of 1.24 MB)", 16/78 scripts edited
Ayakashibito - Fully translated, 36956/50995 (72.47%) lines edited, Touko route done
>Cannonball - 19911/36902 (53.96%) lines translated
>Comyu - 22729/51433 (44.19%) lines translated, common/Benio route partial patch out
Concerto Note - "Wakana, Shirayuki, Sayori route done"
>Cross Channel - Everything checked, final check 175/269
Dote up a Cat - 32.2% translated
Dracu-Riot - partial patch released, 43233/53707 (80.50%) lines translated, 2 routes + common route fully translated
DRAMAtical Murder re:connect - 95%
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 97.3% translated, third partial patch out
Flyable Heart- 4673/47192 (9.9%) lines translated in new translation project
Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, patches for Shiro, Kiriha and Kanade routes released. Erika route 65% done. Haruna route 80% done.
Gensou no Avatar - ~15% translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Yahiro 4.99% translated, Kozue 20.85% translated
Hatsuyuki Sakura - 8850/38943 (22.7%) lines translated, 7.29% edited
>Higanbana 2 - overall 5788 / 5965 (97.03%) lines translated
Hinomaru- 51% translated, common route patch released

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>I/O - 241/249 scripts and 212/256 tips translated. All routes besides B' and E' are translated. 66/249 scripts edited
Ikikoi - Fully translated, 2 active editors working on it
Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,365/51,100 (84.86%) lines translated, going through revision, partial patch going through chapter 6 planned
Killer Queen: New translation started from scratch, 25/72 scripts translated and 18/72 scripts edited
Koichoco- 188/397 files translated, 129/397 files edited, Common/Chisato routes fully translated
>Koiken Otome - 33.16% translated
Kono Mama ja, Ane to SEX Shite Shimau - 14.4%
Kourin no Machi - 9356/36959 (25.3%) lines translated
Kud Wafter - 9836/33132 (29.69%) lines translated
>Kurukuru Fanatic - 31.6% translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 85% translated
Majikoi A- Sayaka patch released, Benkei 40% translated
Majikoi S- Monshiro, Margit, Kokoro, and Tsubame routes patch out, Momoyo 44% translated, 44% edited
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 830.20/1221.01 (67.99%) kb translated
Maman Kyoushitsu - Saera Kanzaki, Honoka Mizushima, and Mimeri routes patch released
Mashiro Iro Symphony - Common route 93.98% Translated
Monster Girl Quest 3 - 37% partial patch released
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv Alternative TDA 00 - Patch out covering Chicken Diver
Natsuyume Nagisa - 2584/38142 (6.77%) lines translated. 2584/38142 (6.77%) lines edited
Nursery Rhyme - 13465/34410 (39.13%) translated
Oreimo PSP - 249/299 scripts translated, 98/299 through TLC+Editing
Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, part 15 out
PersonA - 36% translated
Princess Maker 5- ~90%, translation progress stalled while putting together a beta patch
Pure Pure- Fully translated, 77.26% edited

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>Rance 4 - Fully translated, in playtesting
Rance 5D- 85% complete, awaiting engine tools
Rance 6 - 53% Complete
Real Imouto - 7294/16108 (45.28%) translated
Rose Guns Days 2 - 95% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 3341/14309 (23.3%) lines translated
Se-kirara - Being translated
Seifuku no Ojisama - 4/720 scripts translated
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Fully translated, 1 route of editing and technical problems remain
Shuukaku no Juunigatsu winter - 80% translated, 42% edited, trial version out
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- Fully translated and edited
>Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 10- 13/18 scripts translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 39760/53562 (74.2%) lines translated and 39267/53562 (73.3%) lines edited
>Sukisho! - First Limit - 46% translated
>Supreme Candy - 3643/43261 (8.4%) lines translated
Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 1037.4/4560 (22.75%) translated
To Heart2- 65% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Toradora PSP - 69.2% translated
>Toushin Toshi II - 62.1% translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 54% edited, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 19.76%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 57.47%, Motoka 23.08%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Your Diary- Prologue patch released, common route fully translated, 11/19 scripts translated for Yua's route, 1/10 scrpts translated of Kanade's route

[VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs No.]

Official work

MangaGamer
Eroge - Demo out, 9/13 release
Ef: The Latter Tale - "Second Beta complete, waiting on final bug fix and image edits."
Bukkake Ranch: In beta
Touma Kojirou no Tantei File - 100% translated, in Scripting
Chou Dengeki Stryker - In scripting
D2B vs Deardrops - In scripting
Really? Really! - In scripting
>Demon Master Chris - Demo released, fully TL, in editing
>Milles - 37% translated
>Imouto Paradise - 71% translated, 39% edited
Princess Evangile - 27% translated, 24% edited
Ruby Striker - Release ready
Warrior Princess Asuka - Editing complete
Boob Wars 2 - Translation and editing complete
Cartagra - Initial TL going through revision
Kara no Shoujo 2 - picked up
>Armored Warrior Iris - 38% translated
>Valkyrie Svia - 4% translated
Space Pirate Sara - In Translation
Free Friends - Picked up
Free Friends 2 - Picked up
Da Capo 3 - Picked up both R and R ~X Rated~


JAST
Yumina the Ethereal - Demo out, August 30th release
Steins;Gate - Picked up, top priority to release
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Being translated by Aroduc
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- In translation
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Sekai project to do the TL
Osadai fandisc - In Translation
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Other
Danganronpa - NISA in early 2014
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
The Night of Kamaitachi - release planned
Sweet Fuse - 8/27 release
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.org/

[Anonymous No.]

best thread, etc.

Oh god I'm going to learn jap before sumaga comes out won't I

[Anonymous No.]

Ignored again ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344826
;_;

[Anonymous No.]

how many years has JAST been working on Sumaga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344878
Since about 2009.
Right, I've been done with them for years now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344900
They worked on it, then abandoned their translation then started a whole brand-new translation. I fucking hate JAST so much. The fan-translation was about 70% done until JAST got their filthy hands on it. Fuck you, JAST. Just, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

WILL WE EVER SEE SUMAGA?
I'VE LITERALLY BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE 2008.
FUCK YOU JAST

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344907
Jast only has one employee. Everyone else is just random guys on the internet. In this case, the guy giving them status updates turned out to be lying about it and had translated almost nothing.

Not saying Jast is blameless for letting it go on though. That's both irresponsible and shitty business practices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344916
What the fuck is JAST doing?
Release the stuff you licensed first, then move on to the bigger projects that you licensed later on. That's usually how business is run, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a JAST hating thread?
If so, I'm down.

[Anonymous No.]

How is Stenis;Gate on their top priority? Pretty much everyone's read it already. Goddammit, JAST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344937
'top priority' expect a late 2016 early 2017 release

[Anonymous No.]

Jast is gonna Jast. You jast have to live loooong enough to see Sumaga being released, or you can jast seal it at the back of your mind until it actually comes out, if that can make the pain of waiting jast a bit easier for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Has the western VN community died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344974
what

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile at JAST...

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile at JAST

[Anonymous No.]

>Rance 4 - Fully translated, in playtesting

Really !!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345018
jast is such a stupid name.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate jast

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344907
gckc who was translating sumaga apparently didnt really know japanese so the fan tl was shit

[Anonymous No.]

Just looked on their Twitter.
Sumaga will be released after Steins;Gate and Hanachirasu.
We're not gonna see this year, are we?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11344937
>How is Stenis;Gate on their top priority? Pretty much everyone's read it already. Goddammit, JAST.

Jast does a lot of stupid things, but getting out the title that will sell far better than the rest of their upcoming titles as quickly as possible makes perfect sense, especially since the very high level of interest will fall overtime as the time since the anime aired increases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345040
Its already been a couple years. It was dubbed about half a year ago. There is no more interest for it. Those who want to play it already have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345043
It'll still make far more money than anything else they have lined up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345043
they'll probably want to put it up on steam

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345047
Nice i can take a bunch of cool screenshots and show off my visual novel tastes to my frfiends now yahoo

[Anonymous No.]

>I/O - 241/249 scripts and 212/256 tips translated. All routes besides B' and E' are translated. 66/249 scripts edited

Should be 242/249 scripts translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>Toradora PSP - 69.2% translated
Seems progress has slowed down, but at least it's moving (for now)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345047
5pb. is not interested (for whatever stupid reason, it's free money).

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345491
A 5pb/steam/Jast partnership getting titles 5pb has made console versions for in Japan would probably be the single best strategy of selling VNs in the West and actually making meaningful money for the Japanese companies doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

Well well, a surprise from Ludo and his gang:

http://rancetranslation.wordpress.com/2013/08/17/three-for-the-slash-thrust-burn-release/

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>>11345727
I hope it's as high quality as his first release.

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>>11345635
Have you seen the behavior of the average steam user and the behavior of the average Steins;Gate fan? Combining those two is like a living nightmare. It'd be for the best if Japanese companies held off from the social-networking freedom-hating steam and all of its ignorant users, as getting involved with steam would have a negative impact in all ways other than profit. Most importantly, it would set some really bad trends, which could influence the decisions of Japanese companies, not just in terms of method of sale, but in terms of actual content as well. Of course, unfortunately, if they're really convinced it will make money, they'll try to do it anyway.

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>>11346068
This reminds of Nintendo, "we want to please the fans regardless if their is a bunch of trash", so much for pleasing a bunch of immature pricks, of course I am not generalizing, just mentioning the ones that are like that.

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Missing BL projects:

Kamisama (Kari) Gakuen Souran Hen

http://aarinfantasy.com/forum/f16/t174918-kamisama-kari-gakuen-souran.html

CAGE-OPEN-

http://cageopentrans.wordpress.com/

Sweet Pool

http://aarinfantasy.com/forum/f16/t103632-sweet-pool-translation-project-p29.html

Lucky Dog 1

http://terracannon876.wordpress.com/translations/ld1-main/

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>>11346171
nobody reads that shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

Which Amaenbo is being translated? Is it this http://vndb.org/v2758

[Anonymous No.]

>>11346178
why do you say lol, it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11346171
Sweet Pool is like 50% google translated though? Might want to post the status of that in some cudder thread.

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>>11346171
Cage Open and Lucky Dog are solely online text only.

[Anonymous No.]

Big jump on Toushin Toshi II this week.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at MG's releases since April

2013-04-03
2013-04-26
2013-05-24
2013-06-21
2013-08-09
2013-09-13

It looks like their roughly once a month release schedule has remained constant for a while now so it's probably getting safe to assume that they will try and maintain it, even if some of it is low budget nukige.

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>>11344974
Lack of new translators and real-life problems for the main ones.

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>>11347089
wait they're not going to insert it?

[Anonymous No.]

I was hyped as fuck when I heard Codepink's nukige are being translated since I've busted countless nuts to those, but since it's fucking JAST I shouldn't expect them before 2020, huh?

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>>11347332

Lucky Dog, from the linked page

>Do not use my translation to make patches for the game or use them for YouTube subs.

>My desire to remain on friendly relations with tennenouji aside, making a patch exponentially increases the chance that this entire project be scrapped due to legal action. I have taken the pains so that you may read the script and still enjoy it just as easily as if you play the game alongside. Please respect my wishes as well as those of tennenouji, and allow this blog to remain online for the sake of other readers.


Cage Open
>The choice of presenting this translation project on a blog came from difficulties encountered while attempting to program an actual translation patch. If the compatibility issues encountered with the nscripter/onscripter engine are ever resolved, an actual patch for the game might happen. In the meantime, this project will be presented in an online text/image format.

[Anonymous No.]

not bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>11347341

I can never remember the difference between nukige and nakige.

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>>11347388
Fujoshi are so lazy.

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>>11347503
You sound like a pussywhipped faggot.

[None !!x+mnmrU0sW+ No.]

>>11344907
>The fan-translation was about 70% done
Hi. I worked on Sumaga for JAST. Gckc lied about his progress, and he wasn't a competent translator either. When I TLC'd his scripts I had to change basically every other line for being either flat-out wrong or terribly worded. You should be thanking JAST for saving you from a Sumaga translation that would have been slightly better than the Flyable Heart one. It took a long time because JAST is slow (and because I held up the project by slacking), but at least the product will be decent quality instead of 3mb of trash scripts that no one would want to read.

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>>11347550

T-t-that's mean anon.

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>Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 90%, editing 65%

Holy shit, it's that far along? Where'd you get that from.

[Anonymous No.]

Weekly reminder why I'm learning Japanese

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>>11347503
nakige make you cry tears.
nukige make you cry semen.

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>>11348257
utsuge > nakige

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>>11344725
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - picked up

Well, that's something. Hopefully it's as good as the first one.

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>>11348243
Why? Pretty much all untranslated VNs are untranslated for damn good reason.

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>>11348408
you should find someone better to do troll

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>>11348408
Spoken like a true EOP.

[Anonymous No.]

Yumina is just a few days away.

[Anonymous No.]

> Amagami 19.78
I NEED CLASS REP
plz ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>11350653
if you start learning japanese now you'll be able to read that when/if it ever gets released.

go my friend and do your reps

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>>11345043
There is still the movie which is out on BD in December if I remember right.

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>>11345043
>Those who want to play it already have.
I pity the people who read the leaked translation. I mean, really. To put that much time and effort into reading the whole thing, and still get such a sub-par experience out of it.

They would have been better off to be patient and wait for a better release, or learn Japanese.
Cue point though. The translation is noticeably shoddy. The translator himself admitted to it being kind of bad. And if you just stop and think a little, it should be obvious that the translation was couldn't have been good.
The time between the patch leaked and the time of when the project started was just really quite slim. If you were to consider the leaked patch the proper thing, it would pretty much have been the fastest VN translation project yet, relative to script size.

But people wanted to read it anyway.

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>>11351502
Yeah, shame on them for not wanting to wait years for JAST when a patch was already available.

[Anonymous No.]

> Flyable Heart- 4673/47192 (9.9%) lines translated in new translation project
I missed that this got a new project. Checked the group’s site:
http://umikazetranslations.wordpress.com/projects/

They’re also doing Hatsuyuki Sakura which I am interested in. But it doesn’t seem like they have any completed projects yet so I’m going to get my hopes up too much.

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>>11351534
actually yes EOPS should only feel shame

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>>11351581
Not as much as those who wasted their time learning a language that's gonna be dead in a few years. Everything in Japan will be in English anyway soon. Already it's what the kids are speaking with their friends when their parents aren't around.

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>>11351609
You're pretty delusional if you believe that's true.

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>>11351534
>shame on them for not wanting to wait years for JAST when a patch was already available
I don't know if it's shameful, but it's still pitiful, in the sense of deserving pity.
Wouldn't you say reading the whole thing in a sub-par format is a shame? As in, sad.

[QC No.]

Stupid question but how do you know the status of some of the VN?

For example, Rose Guns Days S2 is still at 5% on their website whereas here it's at 95%.
Where the source?

[Anonymous No.]

Stupid question but how do you know the status of some of the VN?

For example, Rose Guns Days S2 is still at 5% on the Witch-Hunt website whereas here it's at 95%.
Where's the source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352324
the secret translation club irc where the best info is shared and everyone makes fun of ixrec

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>>11352324

The group's IRC channel, usually.

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>>11352285
It's not as if S;G was ever meant to be high tier literature. A translation has to be really, really shitty to ruin a game the way some people here like to imply, barring a few specific types of games. S;G is not one of those types. It was just about the chuunibyou and sci-fi time travel antics, and the translation got that over just fine. Waiting years to get a more polished one when it probably will only make a net difference of 5% or so on your overall experience is ridiculous, unless reading Steins;Gate one day happens to be the sole purpose of your life or something.

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>>11346635
I don't think it's google translate.

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>>11352366
Also it's not as if JAST's release is going to turn a sloppy translation into an excellent one. More likely it will just turn a sloppy one into a more polished but still mediocre one, making the premise of waiting years just to get it even more ridiculous. It'd be one thing if someone who just heard of S;G today to decide it was worth waiting, but it is a ridiculous thing to expect that people who were around from the first patch would find that to be a similarly wise decision.

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>>11352366
>>11352372
But visual novels are books, they even have the word novel in the title! Why else would you read them if not to enjoy the subtle nuances of their brilliantly crafted prose?

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>>11352366
>>11352372
This is why you learn japanese instead of getting the shit that is english translated vns!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352420
I have other things to do in my life than learn moonrune just to read VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352420, you just got fukn rekt by >>11352431
take that weeblord

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>>11352420
I think if I decided to blow 1000+ hours learning Japanese I'd be more likely to do it because of the many games with no translation at all, rather than the one game with a few typos and questionable word/phrase choices in the otherwise perfectly readable translation.

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>>11352445
thats cute that you actually think that

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>>11352373
Of course it's not friend. ;)

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>>11352438
EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brb, telling my mum

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty excited that the Yumina release is just around the corner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352471
Yeah, just like Sumaga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352471
In before Ti9 posts "delayed to mid October" again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11346171
We had this talk on the /vg/ [/spoilers] threads.

They ain't going to be patched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352546
yeah shits already been said in the thread.

now with that excellent contribution you can go back to /vg/

it was nice to have you visit lol no

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352546
I like to think that /vg/vng/ and /jp/vnts/ are friends, maybe even lover. They are not of the same family, so it's not incest, isn't it? It's perfectly acceptable and they are so cute together.

>>11352548
Stop getting in the way of love. It's not a joke.

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>>11352471
If you consider mid October around the corner, then sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352600
In VNTL terms it pretty much is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>Kara no Shoujo 2 - picked up
Delicious.

[Anonymous No.]

Any idea how much a license costs, /jp/? I'd like to buy one from Rapapuru.

I figure I can scrape together $800...

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>>11352462
Oh fuck man. Didn't read very much of it. This is disappointing. I know a bit of Japanese so I'll probably just have to read it with TA for the kanji I don't know.

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>>11352704
I don't think $800 would even cover the costs of them sitting down for 5 minutes to consider your offer.

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>>11352704
If you have to ask you can't afford it.

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>>11352768
>>11352761
Seriously? Shit. I'll still send them an email, but... damn. That's about the most I could offer, other than a revenue sharing agreement...

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>>11352704
Add an extra zero at the end and you may grab their attention.

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>>11352820
There's no way I could get a loan for $8000 when I already have $75k student loan debt. And I'm not even sure I could sell that many copies of a game at $20. I figure I could get maybe 50 sales at the low end, but not much more than 100 sales total.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352826
congrats you just solved the puzzle, VNs aren't even worth the time to think about beginning to sell to western audiences

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>>11352826
dude this is like a bad idea

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>>11352848
I think it could be a good idea, if I could get a license for $800. Hopefully I can explain it to them and agree to something like for every sale over $800, we split the revenue 50/50 or something. Maybe more, I don't really care.

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>>11352904
>agree to something like for every sale over $800, we split the revenue 50/50 or something
If I were a distributor or company, I wouldn't agree to something like this. First of all, how many people would even spend over $800 in a single sale?

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>>11352912
No, I mean I'd pay $800 up front for the license, and for the first $800 worth of sales (at $20/copy, that's 40 copies), I'd keep 100% of the revenue (all $800). Then, once I'd sold that much, for every additional sale on top of that, I'd split the revenue with them. So the 41st copy I sold I would keep $10, and they would get $10. Essentially they'd get a free $800 up front, then an additional $10 per sale after 40 sales. Meanwhile I'd get no profit at all until the 41st sale, at which point I'd have $10 profit.

Since I only figure I'd get around 50 sales anyway, I'd make about $100 for the entire ordeal, and the company would get $900. Since this is more of hobby thing and I don't plan to live off of translating, that's fine with me. If it doesn't work though maybe I'll sell my translation to Mangagamer or something and let them deal with the license stuff.

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>>11352951
lol

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>>11352951
>Since this is more of hobby thing and I don't plan to live off of translating, that's fine with me. If it doesn't work though maybe I'll sell my translation to Mangagamer or something and let them deal with the license stuff.
Just do the latter half or apply for a subbing group.

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>>11352959
I have a hard time working in groups. I'm an unfortunately fickle worker.

You know what, I'll offer it to Mangagamer first, since I'm wary of communicating legal matters in Japanese, and I can't afford a lawyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352951
This is a terrible idea. I really hope those loans you have aren't from economics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345040
I didnt read it because it didnt read it because of the translation being unedited, ive been waiting forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11345035
Hanachirasu when?

[Anonymous No.]

>Ayakashibito - Fully translated, 36956/50995 (72.47%) lines edited, Touko route done
>Ikikoi - Fully translated, 2 active editors working on it
Why not releasing an unedited patch?
Editing is taking more than what it took to translate them.

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>>11353606
because editing in that translator case isn't about fixing typos or whatever, it's rebuilding entire sentences

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>>11352951

Just pitch it to MG or JAST, whoever has closer ties with the company in question. Unless you're dealing with a tiny doujin circle, you really need an in or they won't even talk to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11353606
Lot of translators don't like doing this because it makes it very unlikely most people will wait to read the edited one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11353606
no kawaii meido for you.

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>>11353612
>it's rebuilding entire sentences

What kind of shoddy translator can't put together a decent english sentence as he works? Sure you need to give it a once over to make sure things flow, nothing got missed, and fix typos, but translating shouldn't result in something like a machine translation.

>>11353640
Sounds like a plan. Rapapuru unfortunately isn't really a tiny company, I think.

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>>11355154
>What kind of shoddy translator can't put together a decent english sentence as he works? Sure you need to give it a once over to make sure things flow, nothing got missed, and fix typos, but translating shouldn't result in something like a machine translation.

You see. There are for all human beings a translation layer that things pass through when they try to comprehend them in their own language. Most times it becomes stuck with joined literal meaning instead of intended thought.
Can't put together a decent English sentence? About 95% of all translators in their first 5 years of practice. Their hands are forced by the characters which meanings are binding them to using clunky sentences.

Unless you're expecting an experienced translator to work for free then you need a hell of an editor to make sense of these steaming piles of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355168
>About 95% of all translators in their first 5 years of practice.
Bullshit. Absolute and complete bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355168
I'm pretty sure that has more to do with knowledge of English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355168
I've only taken two years of Japanese classes, and that would NEVER have flown. We always had to come up with grammatical English sentences. Now I'll grant you that composing a poetic English sentence to represent the idea that was originally in Japanese is difficult, that's more a problem on the English language side, not the translation part.

More people need to read Ezra Pound's thoughts on translation. He was particularly good with Asian languages.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40339757?uid=3739560&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102558665811

http://www3.dbu.edu/mitchell/poundtra.htm

http://www.academia.edu/380294/Translation_in_Transition_Ezra_Pounds_Poetic_Variation_on_Sextus_Propertius

I also recommend ABC of Reading by Pound if anyone's interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355175
I just saw you in my mind's eye, angry and clenching your butthole with some lays in one hand and your stolen library mouse in the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11351502
>If you were to consider the leaked patch the proper thing, it would pretty much have been the fastest VN translation project yet, relative to script size.
Incorrect. It took at least three months to translate, so at 1.78 MB that would be roughly 0.020 MB/day. It's still significantly less than what is probably the record holder: Ixrec's debut project MOON., 0.82 MB, taking precisely 31 days to translate, meaning an average of 0.026 MB/day.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Yumina doesn't get pushed back to August 40th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355326
not possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355325
And they're both translated horribly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352951
>No, I mean I'd pay $800 up front for the license, and for the first $800 worth of sales (at $20/copy, that's 40 copies), I'd keep 100% of the revenue (all $800). Then, once I'd sold that much, for every additional sale on top of that, I'd split the revenue with them.
You're doing it entirely wrong. Revenue sharing agreements work the other way around: For every sale up to an arbitrary point, the publisher gets X%, then for every sale beyond that (up to another arbitrary point), the publisher gets Y%, where Y > X. (This usually continues with even higher tiers where the publisher gets an even larger part of the profit.)

The reason for this is simple, and you have already highlighted the flaw in your own posts. The burden of advertisement, getting people to actually buy the game, is on the publisher. The gradually increasing percentage provides an incentive to the publisher to make it a big success, as more sales = larger portion of the profit. In a deal where you as a publisher suddenly make a lot less after X copies, you're more likely to go 'ah, screw it' after X copies has been reached since after that you only get half as much.

(Source: Small game developers talking about negotiating with video game publishers.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355325
That's weird, I'm doing about 40KB a day, and these last few days I've averaged 60KB on my project because my deadline got pushed forward. This is before editing/proofreading, of course. But I'm also spending up to 16 hours a day working on this to get it done. I know if I could set my own pace I'd do around 15-20KB per day, with days off every now and then. For reference the script is 341KB and I started working on it August 20.

>>11355380
Ah, thanks for that. That makes a lot more sense. So I'd give them something like half of each sale until I hit $800, then more like only 25% after that? Interesting. I really wish localizations would be more open about how this works, since reinventing the wheel seriously sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355427
Wait, which project is it that you are working on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355443
vndb.org/v10076

It's pure nukige, so the japanese is really simple and repetitive. I'm finishing the script tonight and I'm going to spend the rest of the week touching it up, checking for errors and making sure I didn't miss anything. I've got about 26KB more to go on the last file.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355463
>Lactation During Sex
I’m sold already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355427
"KB" is relative per encoding and such but if you're doing 40-60 of raw text per day (even 16 hours) you're probably going too fast to do a decent job. That's much faster than pretty much any professional.

Slow down and focus on producing work of reasonable quality. Especially if this is your first project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355427
>So I'd give them something like half of each sale until I hit $800, then more like only 25% after that?
You have no business sense. If you give $800 as your 'I did a good job, now I get more' mark, any company would laugh at you. If you can't promise at least $800 in revenue (for them) you're better off not even considering it. If we take MangaGamer's estimated game sales as an example, you'd take 1000 copies sold as the first point, then 2000 copies sold as the second point (as anything above 1000 copies is a success for MangaGamer and 2000 copies is a huge success). Also, 50% to 25% is a VERY steep decrease. Try a 10% or less change per step.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355471
Ah, that's probably it. The scenario script has all the voice and image file calls in it, as well as some commented out junk data. I'd say 60% max of each file is actual text that needs to be translated. It's all raw text, though, not encoded at the moment.

And I also definitely need to go through and touch it up. I was playing through it the other night as a kind of play test and I noticed a lot of typos, and one or two lines that were just wrong. So my effective rate is probably more like 10KB/day or so. And again, the Japanese is really simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355483
Whoa, they make hundreds of sales on each title? I was expecting to make about 50-100 sales total.

I didn't realize there was that much of a market... Yeah if I could get 1000 sales my numbers would definitely change.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't you love EVN writers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355487

They rarely break 1k.

[Anonymous No.]

can't wait to read this

[Anonymous No.]

Jlist started processing payments for Yumina.

According to the Jast forums Rightstuf will ship it on the 28th.

[meido !!EHs+8AbN1pH No.]

>>11355154
I hardly come to this thread much anymore but just so you know, I'm always willing to post some random script of what I poop out and let you judge for yourself.

Just so you know, the past month really is nobody wants to edit month, more or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355699
That's sad to hear. It makes me feel better about translating almost nothing at least.

[meido !!EHs+8AbN1pH No.]

>>11355708
I'm probably in the same boat as you now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352704
I finally finished translating, just need to go over it for typos and polishing which I'll do at a more relaxed pace the rest of this week.

Feels so good to be done with it, for the most part.

http://vndb.org/v10076
It's going to either JAST or MangaGamer, though, so I don't know if you want to add it to the OP list or not. In total it took me 8 full days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
>Check http://s.vndb.org/sf/28/33928.jpg
I am not amused

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355699
Want me to take over and edit it for you? I'm a hella good editor, honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
>http://vndb.org/v10076

Apparently Jast pays translators better. Not sure how true that is though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11356872

It's not true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11347743
apparently that's only for cases 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
>http://vndb.org/v10076
Are people really turn on by those disgusting tits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357048
people have different turn ons and preferences who woulda guessed.

Kill yourself you teenage idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357089
keep crying

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
>It's going to either JAST or MangaGamer

Because either companies would buy a fantranslation of a nukige published by a company they don't have relationships with.

Your plan to acquire shekels has already failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357455
In that case I'll just try to negotiate for the license myself. It's more work but I really want to make this available in a way that the company sees some money from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357530

Yeah, good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357530
I don't know if you're trolling, stupid or incredibly naive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357555
Naive. It can't hurt to try. The worst they can tell me is no.

>>11357551
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357643

The worst they can tell you is actually to cease translating or they will sue you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357643
This is a terrible idea. Maybe if it was a game that would actually appeal to a larger aduience, but there is no way in hell your typical VN player will buy that. It's a niche within a niche within a niche within a niche within a niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357530

Well, good luck. You will need it. You chose a very specific title which has little chance of financial success for a translation. I'm almost sure neither JAST nor MG have any interest given the nature of the content in the game. And you're in for a hell of fun without a big publisher like them. How do you plan to distribute the game without them anyway?

I suggest you to pick a different game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357650
Too late it's already done. And I have no assets so they can sue all they like.

>>11357656
That's why I didn't expect much sales, but if normal eroge titles get several hundred sales, I should be able to get a hundred or two. I'll see what the company thinks. It was a labor of love on my part so it's not like I'm looking to make much money from it.

>>11357659
I figured I'd set up an online store with paypal or something and do digital downloads of the game files. The original game didn't distribute with DRM so I'm not too worried about it. I suppose I could also burn copies onto discs and mail them, if necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357692

You're a funny guy, you know that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357696
If I fail miserably I'll be sure to let /jp/ know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357703

You mean /when/ you fail miserably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357705
Yes of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11356872
MangaGamer will severely underpay anyone who accepts being underpaid. Not sure how the pay is when people negotiate properly. JAST also barely pays, though.

>>11357692
>It was a labor of love on my part so it's not like I'm looking to make much money from it.
If it's a labor of love, how about not seeking to make money off of it at all? If you want to share your enthusiasm with the community, doesn't it make more sense to release the patch for free? I'm personally not interested in a shitty nukige like that, but that's what would make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357769
In particular, I believe you would have a hard time getting money out of MangaGamer for an already completed translation, they might give you coupons for their games, but good luck getting actual money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11358491
I'm not looking to get a ton of money here. Just what's fair, maybe $200,000 or so and I'd be happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11358553
frogot pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11358491
And Jast has no real need for bottom of the barrel nukige, so it's doubtful you would be able to get a cent out of either company for that nukige, unless they were to independently pick it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11358491
And Jast has no real need for bottom of the barrel nukige, so it's doubtful you would be able to get a cent out of either company for that nukige, unless they were to independently pick it up, which they won't.

So in short, MangaGamer will probably tell you "here is a coupon, we will see if the Japanese company is interested" and Jast would tell you "thanks but no thanks"

[meido !!EHs+8AbN1pH No.]

>>11356847
Thanks, but the editors aren't giving up yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11359154
You should know that's Ti9 too. The constant shitposter who attention whores by trying to pretend to be people who matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11357703
Be sure to share the download link so I can pirate it.

[Linktriforce007 !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

>>11359249
I do not understand why this would disqualify me from being a good editor. If anything wouldn't the very experience you're talking about be one of my greatest assets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11359294
Is this some new meta of shitposting, Ironic trolling? The lack of effort makes it feel intentional.

[Linktriforce007 !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

>>11359395
Nah man just confused, you bring up what I do for recreation and imply it'd mean I'd be a bad editor, why you gotta do me like that? Also wasn't even using my trip but you go out of your way to call me out on posting style or some shit. I do have to wonder how many of those "people who matter" you would have recognized as easily.

Not really trying to shitpost or anything, just donned my trip since you went ahead and called attention to it. If anything I'm the victim here. You shouldn't discriminate against people because of what they may or may not have done in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11359500
Fuck off !Ti9

[Anonymous No.]

>>11351502
no joke, I only read it because I heard JAST picked it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>11359510
Hella rude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11359500
shiposting is just in your nature its okay

now go fucking mangle some shitty tl

[Anonymous No.]

Yumina released today

[anonymous No.]

Are there any plans for the two grisaia sequels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361481
There were originally, but apparently koestl got a C&D and decided to give it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361485
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361404

Torrent where

[Anonymous No.]

>>11356872
JAST only pays when the master copy is printed.

[anonymous No.]

>>11361485
I checked a few archived threads and the C&D is bullshit apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361496
I don't think so. koestl himself posted about it at one point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361498
Nobody's buying your shit, Ti9.

[anonymous No.]

>>11361498
have you seen his twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361508
That's the fake.

[anonymous No.]

>>11361514
No it isn't, it's linked to the wiki and even followed by VNTL status tracker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361519
>linked on a publicly editable wiki
Hurrr

[koestl !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

>>11361508
>>11361519
It's true, this is the imposter's twitter. My real one is here: https://twitter.com/linktriforce007

[anonymous No.]

>>11361514
I don't think a fake one exists, unless you can provide evidence. Also, what do you get out of all this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361525
He's a shitposter.

He gets to waste your time and shitpost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361491

It exists when somebody decided to upload it.

>>11361525

lol

[Anonymous No.]

Why is JAST so completely useless?

[anonymous No.]

>>11361524
I searched around the archives and found your trip to be the fake trip and koestl !!poJpHap55vo to be the real koestl (apprently). Also I checked that twitter and in it linktriforce007's Curriculum Vitae doesn't mention grisaia at all http://vntls.org/staff/linktriforce007

>>11361535
I guess it's okay, I have nothing better to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361481
Koestl won't translate the rest of Grisaia because he IS Grisaia. True story.

[koestl !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

>>11361835
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nursery Rhyme - 13465/34410 (39.13%) translated
Are they ever going to get back on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11355940
did you really do this? awesome taste. Its about time we had some milf stuff translated.

[Anonymous No.]

When the fuck is steins gate coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363034
soon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363034
*soon*.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11352704
>>11355940
Late to the show, but most of the licenses are negotiated on royalties or some combination thereof. As for translators, MG pays per character translated ($0.01/chara last I heard), and JAST sets a budget for each title as some fraction of expected sales split across all project members (which makes sense since JAST tends to work with pre-existing teams rather than individual contractors). Which is better probably depends on how long the project is, but they're pretty comparable. For either of them, send them an email and see what they can do, MG has a history of picking up random small nukige though, so you might have more luck there.

I wouldn't recommend negotiating directly with the original company though, they are businesses after all, anything above small doujin groups tend to have no interest in negotiating with individuals. Japanese businesses are a different beast, a lot of them in this industry know each other, and who you are and who you know are super important in getting anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363034
Why does anyone care about the S;G release?

Why not just use the patch available right now?

I've seen people waiting for ef, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363478
Because the patch is rather buggy and the translation can use some cleaning up.
Why are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363478
I'm just buying it because it means I can get a pretty box for a third the price that japs have to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363473

The main difference is that MG pays based on length while JAST pays on prospective sales. So if you get something short but that's likely to sell well, JAST will pay better/etc. MG pays promptly upon delivery of work, not sure about JAST's practices, but they seem a fair bit less professional in that department.

Anyhow, yeah, if it's a proper company there's next to no chance you'll get any kind of deal with them. Even smaller ones have distributors and all sorts of licensing shit to deal with and in all likelihood they can't actually negotiate directly with you even if they wanted to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363490

JAST actually pays different set values depending on how long the game is. Like $5,000 for a short game, $10,000 for medium, etc. However, it's split between everyone working on the project, so it can be more or less depending on how many people there are.

[Anonymous No.]

> >Cross Channel - Everything checked, final check 175/269

Wait what? Is this being retranslated or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363571
Every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I find resources on how visual novel translators edit the text?
The reason I'm asking is that I'm solo translating a flash game 妹と２ >>>/f/2095893
by hex editing each individual line, which I believe is the least painful way to translate Flash (decompiling is not an option). However, the problem I have with this is that I can't be sure on how to deal with character length problems as well as avoiding corrupting the swf.
Since VN translators probably go through this daily I figured any resources on the subject would be absolutely helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone have the valentines Dracu-Riot patch? the one that was released to only their competition winner(s)?

[Anonymous No.]

Goodbye SubaHibi

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363814
終わったばかりなのに……もう始まりなんて……
followup when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363814
You're right, it's off the list. Does this mean it's officially dropped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364341
The translator is too busy trying to fuck girls with penises, so yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364354
What else are you supposed to fuck girls with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364383
Not penises?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364383
>penises
Plural. Either you're under the misconception the translator is a multi-penis monster, or you failed to understand he meant "girls who have a penis".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364424
You're clearly unfamiliar with the translator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364466
... Do I want to become unfamiliar with him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364470
You already are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361491

Direct download in erogedownload

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364551
You mean... Indirect download with 12-hour timers for each of the 10 parts from shitty uploaders run my money-grubbing jews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364562

Quit downloading if you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364723
I'm downloading a torrent anyway. I wouldn't download from those host in order for erogedownload jew admin to make shekels out of my frustration.

Making money out of other people's property is morally abhorrent. If he really wanted to share he'd set up a torrent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364748

Torrent where???

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11364800
cute kid, do you have a college savings fund set up for him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363490
JAST pays once golden master is done, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11361491
>>11364790
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:D0EC3BB430D8B37AD295B034380C8D0B79922374
The number of seeders implies that it's legit.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07nAbnJjZI
the good old days.
the 80s..
what happened..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11363024
Yeah, it turned out pretty well, though I still need to proofread for typos and get the word wrapping fixed. Here's a screencap with some translated text.

>>11363473
That's pretty damn awesome, even at 1 cent per character I translated a LOT of characters. Totally worth it. I'll definitely deal with JAST/MG first though, just for simplicity's sake.

>>11363774
A decent VN won't be in flash, for instance. The game I did was on the Kirikiri engine, which uses .xp3 files, which are pretty well documented for extracting script files. So it wasn't too hard once I figured out the tools. Then I opened the script in notepad and typed my translations over each line that needed to be done.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, what about this delinquent girls game?
Anyone's working on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11365414

Character count is kana/kanji only, btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11365160
So they never pay?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or does Yumina the Ethereal not have a widescreen option at all? I have to do pick between these humongous black bars OR oddly stretched out images. Kind of odd for a rather modern game, no? I'm used to this in older VNs but Yumina is not old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11366191
Nothing wrong with black bars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11366204

There's not something wrong with black pars persé, but I'd rather be rid of them and enjoy widescreen CGs.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what about that Yumina, is it worth it's time? It's >50 hours on vndb, so I hesitate to even start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11366746

If you don't mind a little grinding it can be quite fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11365997
Even so that's pretty damn good. Although figuring that out would be tough because the dialogue is mixed up with scripting information like scene changes and music and sound effects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11366224
If you want to get rid of black bars, get a 4:3 screen.

4:3 > 16:9

[Anonymous No.]

>>11366191
Yumina is from 2009, and back then it was pretty unusual for an eroge to be HD. Even today many eroge aren't widescreen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11367494
I actually prefer the 4:3 ratio games. Widescreen games just feel weird since I'm used to playing the older games and play windowed almost all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11369339
In a lot of cases it doesn't even make sense to have widescreen or HD. Like your average school romcom doesn't need it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 97.3% translated, third partial patch out

Stop playing with my emotions, you jerks.

[Anonymous No.]

Though a bunch of projects will probably be dropped.... but who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11375504
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11375504
its not like he did anything meaningful

[Anonymous No.]

>>11376521
Other than editing on several projects, in a time where many projects end up getting stalled due to a lack of editors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11376541
if you called what he did editing lol

[Anonymous No.]

I miss the guys that translated black lilith games

[Anonymous No.]

Who keeps bumping the old thread...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11380206
honestly who cares? there isn't a rule against necrobumping

[Anonymous No.]

>>11380217
No, but there is against ban evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11380221
>but there is against ban evasion
Why would he be banned for necrobumping?

[Anonymous No.]

why does Linktriforce007 get so much hate? seriously, i'm new here

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a high level save for Yumina? because I am not grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11381641
>i'm new here
Lurk more, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11381751
Just use cheat engine, you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11381761
How about no stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>11381757
fuck you. help a newfag out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11381996
No.

[Anonymous No.]

dudes Linktriforce007 is totally a cool guy these faggots hating on him are just jelly cuz of his awesome youtube chan. dont piss in the ocean of piss, this is 4chan, swim in it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384205
This isnt /b/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384236
then why does it feel just like /b/?