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Is she a hermit? Is she just pretending to be one? Suika said she's pretending, but she seems a lot more knowledgeable and reserved than your average oni and it doesn't seem like they've seen each other for some time. On the other hand, Suika-douji probably knows more about her own (former) subordinates than what we've been shown.

>> No.11332260

>>11332258
>she seems a lot more knowledgeable and reserved than your average oni

Excuse me, what was the name of the manga again

>> No.11332270

>>11332260
Wild by hermit standards is still pretty reserved by oni standards.

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I want to be scolded by Ibaraki-san

>> No.11332315

>>11332258
She's an oni that's become a hermit, duh.

>> No.11332331

>>11332315
That's what I thought, but why would Suika say she's "pretending" and planning something? Now I'm less sure.

>> No.11332342

What's a good Kasen H-doujin? I kinda feel like fapping to her.

>> No.11332345

Please do not sexualize Kasen.

>> No.11332348

>>11332345
Why does a prude like you even bother coming to /jp/?

>> No.11332359

>>11332348
Most prudes are also masochists.

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>>11332342
There are none

>> No.11332412

I'm not too far in this, but I picked it up again a few days ago and I'd say she is a hermit, but I really would need to read more of it to be sure. Either way, it's rather interesting and I'm liking her character a lot.

Don't know why it took me this long to care about Touhou again but whatever, at least I'm enjoying something that I can post here about again.

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>>11332412
Yeah, it's probably one of ZUN's better written tales, my only gripe being the slow as fuck pacing when it's already obvious from chapter one who she is. Kasen is one of my favourite characters as well.

>> No.11332596

Waiting warmly for the day it is revealed that Kasen is actually not an oni but, say, Yumemi in disguise.

>> No.11332642

>>11332596
Would be completely dumb and pointless, but I can see it happening because ZUN.

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She is my Big sister

>> No.11333251
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She's an Oni who's looking to ascend from her actual status and achieve Hermit-ness

>>11332342
Any of them will do.

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>> No.11333502

>>11333493
2hu shadow of the colossus when?

>> No.11333511

>but she seems a lot more knowledgeable

Yeah, but not about what being a hermit means, especially in the last chapter.

>> No.11333546

>>11332596
It would ruin everything. Seriously.

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>> No.11333707

>>11333701
So sexy.
That must be one flimsy bra if it got unhooked by water.

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>>11333502
That's a game that does not need a Touhou parody. I can't even imagine a Touhou parody.

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>> No.11335388

kasen is obviously an oni because she is wearing a shackle like every other one of her retarded criminal youkai species

>> No.11335401

Kasen / Miko art, when?

>> No.11335406

The most recent chapter makes it really really obvious that she isn't even a sort-of hermit.

>> No.11335412

>>11335406
Oh?

>> No.11335425

>>11335401
The world isn't ready for those two beauties Anon.

>> No.11335437

Common theory:

- She's a dragon.
- She's THE dragon.
- She's related to THE dragon.
- She's a youkai passing as a hermit.
- She's a youkai believing in hermitery.
- She's half-youkai. And a hermit.
- She's an oni. Hermit. A hermit oni.
- She's a ghost hermit.

Most probably, she's a ghostly half-oni half-dragon hermit. Her powerlevel are cannonicaly above the charts after all.

>> No.11335440

>>11335437
she's a fucking oni

>> No.11335993
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Tiny horns or horn stumps?

>> No.11336004

>>11335993
stumps

>> No.11336010

>>11335993
On one hand, if it's stumps, you can bet there will be fanart of her with majestic full-sized ones, but on the other hand, tiny horns would be really cute.

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>>11332315
Kasen is an oni?
Does that mean she's also a musclegirl?
I hope not, because then there'd be no stopping my boner.

>> No.11336024

>>11335993
maybe she would have tiny ram horns which would be very cute

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>>11335993
Don't know, don't care. The little things covering the horns (if they exist) are way cuter.

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She's just pretending to be an hermit because Oni's are still sort of banned on the surface. And she states that she just wants to be around people and meet new ones.
Yuugi is still underground and Sukia floats around the Hakurei Shrine/Heaven.
I'm quite surprised that Komachi wasn't aware of her Oniness. Guess she plays her role really good.

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>>11336147
>to be around people and meet new ones
You mean slut it up?

>> No.11336386

>>11336371
Well if one legend is to be believed, she was already the bitch of another Oni we know

>> No.11336393

>>11336053
>wild and horned hermit
>horned

>> No.11336400

>>11336393
It could just mean the ornaments themselves

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>> No.11336477

>>11336400
It could mean that she's DTF

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>> No.11336602

>>11336371
So you would say she's a... wild and horny hermit.

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>>11336602
Yes. Although I imagine that afterwards she will be a... responsible and maternal hermit.

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>>11336371
>>11336602
Keep reaching, anons.

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>>11336634
She's a sinful girl that only lives for indecent sex with no emotions or procreative impulse involved. She enjoys playing on the heartstrings of naive men who think her a virtuous hermit, but in reality she mechanically rapes them until they wither away.

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>>11336645
Nevermind, stop reaching.

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>>11335993
If stumps, that makes for an interesting backstory.
Tiny horns is really cute.

Either way is good.

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>>11336656
Please don't start shit you can't see through anon.
She leaves a wake of dehydrated, mindbroken boys and young men behind her, barely clinging to life. Every night she cries herself to sleep, her barren womb unable to gestate the gallons of semen she has wrung out that day.

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>>11335388
What the story behind the shackles anyway?

also
>retarded criminal youkai species
I have honestly lost some of my faith in Kasen's intelligence with the last chapter.
pic related

>> No.11336691

>>11336687
Don't worry, she's still smart.
Becoming a hermit being a religious act IS pretty silly.

>> No.11336725

>>11336721
I didn't.

>> No.11336721

>>11336691
How is it silly? I always thought that was exactly what is was...

>> No.11336773

>>11336687

I don't get why you lost confidence in her intelligence. Seriously, can you explain your views ?

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>>11336773
If you're planning to adapt to a new identity in order to start a new life and successfully mingle with others... aren't you supposed to do a serious amount of research beforehand? I was planning to pose as, say, a dentist for a few weeks when staying with people I didn't know I'd read up a lot on dentists so that I'd be able to naturally answer any questions or inquiries that might come up.

Whether or not becoming a hermit is a religious act or not doesn't really matter. Kasen should have know, and she should have thought up answers beforehand. I think it was rather careless of her.

Never mind that, I still like her and think she's a great character.

>> No.11336807

>>11336797
>I was planning to
I meant "IF I was planning to". This hasn't actually happened, luckily.

>> No.11336815

>>11336797
>If I was planning to pose as, say, a dentist for a few weeks when staying with people I didn't know I'd read up a lot on dentists so that I'd be able to naturally answer any questions or inquiries that might come up.
You know, I'd definitely read something about an oni trying to pass off as a dentist and getting shocked at things like how human teeth don't regrow when removed or how barehanded dental extraction isn't a standard procedure for dentists.

>> No.11336823

>>11336797
Maybe becoming a hermit was a quick decision? Like something happened that needed her to become a hermit RIGHT THEN, no time for thinking it over and researching?
Or maybe she did just goof.

I fucking love this comic.

>> No.11336826

>>11336797

Becoming an hermit isn't necessarily a religious act btw. No matter what shinto gooks think.

>> No.11336882

>hermit (n.)

>early 12c., "religious recluse," from Old French (h)eremite, from Late Latin ermita, from Greek eremites, literally "person of the desert," from eremia "desert, solitude," from eremos "uninhabited, empty, desolate, bereft," from PIE *ere- (2) "to separate" (cf. Latin rete "net," Lithuanian retis "sieve"). Transferred sense of "person living in solitude" is from 1799.

I don't understand how she's a hermit. She's not a recluse. Kasen is constantly involved in many different things all over Gensokyo.

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>>11335437
>She's a dragon.
Oh my.

And that may be why she said she had gained something "irreplaceable and wonderful" when her dragon-stone hatched.

And she doesn't seem to care about wealth, so maybe she said that because she got more than a rare pet.

She got a lover, or someone of her kind, as she is a dragon herself.

>>11335993
Dragon horn stumps


/tripfag shit theory

>> No.11336905

>>11336889
>She got a lover, or someone of her kind, as she is a dragon herself.
If she is a dragon and the stone "hatched" it's more logical to think she'd see it as her child.

>> No.11336915

>>11336882
She does live in a desolate place in the mountains, but that's about it. Miko makes even less sense as a hermit by this definition though, she's surround by her servants and students literally all the time.

Even Seiga is perhaps elusive at best.

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>>11336905
Oh, you're right!

>> No.11336970

>>11336889

>She's a dragon
>She finally fuck reimu while both are drunk
>The next miko start a reign of terror that will last for thousands of years

>> No.11337051

>>11336905
Ooo, that sounds sweet.

>> No.11337510

>>11336691
>Becoming a hermit being a religious act IS pretty silly.
>>11336721
>How is it silly? I always thought that was exactly what is was...
Actually, the only thing being a Hermit does, is getting immortality by living well.

There is no deity involved, strictly speaking. The only thing you can say is religious is that the person wants to defeat death.

Can it be religious if there isn't any deities or common practices? It might as well be Atkin's Diet.

>> No.11337525

>>11337510
Really, the right word isn't "Hermit" strictly. 仙人 is just people who attended immortality by studying and living with Nature. It's not that different from how Magicans get immortality through magic.

It's a way of life, sure... But they are not organised, and there is no guide. I mean, Taoisim is the closest thing, but most Hermits aren't Taoists.

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I'd honk her horns

>> No.11339183

>>11337525
Only two more years until I turn into a wizard by studying virginity and abstinence.

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Seiga will find the truth of the matter

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>>11339182
>Are you ready?

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>> No.11340229

Holy shit, I love Kasen.

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>>11339266
>>11339266
Yeah, right. She's just gonna molest her.

>> No.11340450

>>11340240
I love that set of pictures

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>>11340240
Race queens?

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A fake is plotting warmly

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>> No.11341146

>>11340627
I want Kasen to cheer on me too.

>> No.11341652

>>11336687
You mean chapter 18? Is it uploaded somewhere?

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>>11336687
She's been pretty silly from the get go, never noticing when she's spilling the beans or leaving his pets go unnoticed.

>> No.11342005

>>11336645

Holy crap that made me sad lol

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>>11340627
Reimu lost this fight because she got too flustered. Kasen was planning on that all along which is why she bet on Hijirin.

>> No.11342073

>>11342066
Kasen just wanted to see Reimu flustered because she likes her

>> No.11342100

>>11337525
>仙人
I've always understood that word to mean more of a sage.

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There aren't enough doujins featuring her.

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>>11342106

>> No.11342118

>>11342109
I can't enjoy Kasen being punched. It's mean and not cute.

>> No.11342150

I downloaded this but nobody told me that the art style would be so atrocious. How do I get past this?

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>>11342106
It's true.

>>11342118
Mm, yes. Kasen dying is not something to be played for laughs.

>> No.11342657

>>11342150
If you mean WaHH either improve your tastes or don't read it.

>> No.11342767

>pretending to be a hermit
Isn't pretty much the only qualification beating the shinigami (I guess for Gensokyo that'd mean Komachi) whenever she's assed to try taking you?

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>>11342767

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>> No.11344484

>>11340595
>A fake is plotting warmly
I'm sure it's nothing sinister, and she just wants her arm back or make friends.

...Right?

>> No.11344677

>>11344484
She's secretly ferrying plans and information back to the oni rape parties in preparation

>> No.11344680

>>11342796
>>11342797
>>11342806
So what he said, just replace shinigami with kishin chief.

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>>11344680
So, an oni.
Kasen trembles in horror.

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Oni

>> No.11346035

>>11342767
The qualification is living longer than you should. This is, sooner or later, going to include encounters with individuals trying to convince that you should probably die already, but that's just a consequence of being a hermit, not an essential part of it.

>> No.11350483

All that pink, such an obscene colour.

>> No.11351761

>>11346035
>The qualification is living longer than you should. This is, sooner or later, going to include encounters with individuals trying to convince that you should probably die already, but that's just a consequence of being a hermit, not an essential part of it.
And to make things complicated, since Ibaraki is an Oni, she doesn't have a fixed lifespan.

She already has eternal youth, and as such her attempting to be a Hermit is like some D&D character trying to go multi-class. Obviously there are some powers that a Hermit has that an Oni does not possess, and maybe that's why she decided to perform a Class-Change.

>> No.11351849

>>11351761
Oni is a race, not a class

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I'm trying to imagine her in a loincloth, especially alongside Suika and Yuugi

Why haven't the nips caught on yet? It's pretty obvious.

>> No.11353424

>>11336882
It's more like because of the fact that 仙人 (sennin) doesn't have to be just "hermit". This probably came from shugendou (mix of all three main religions in Japan, buddhism, shintoism and taoism) where people who practise it can achieve some kind of "magical" powers. And they don't loose them if they leave the mountains.
So if I say it in more simple way, sennin isn't just hermit, it's more like some kind of wizard.

>> No.11353451

>>11353424
A simpler way to explain things would be "仙人 isn't hermit; hermit is just a word someone once chose to translate 仙人 with; their meanings are not required to match exactly".

Each time people forget that and try to read to much into irrelevant etymology, a new argument for leaving difficult Japanese words untranslated is born.

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>> No.11362536 [DELETED] 

Janitor is a piece of shit fucking loser.

He's delusional. No one in real life, or online, can stand his autistic bullshit. No one likes it. Do you hear that janitor? Everyone fucking hates you, it is not a select few people, it is the majority of this board. There is a huge problem with that and guess who's fault is? It's yours you fucking dipshit, stop blaming everyone else.

The mods even hate you. You think they like dealing with your 70 stupid ass ban requests everyday? No, they don't. Why don't you just fucking leave already.

zx2

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>>11353451
>A simpler way to explain things would be "仙人 isn't hermit; hermit is just a word someone once chose to translate 仙人 with; their meanings are not required to match exactly".
The most famous 仙人 are the "Eight Immortals" of Chinese mythology, They are eight people from all walks of life, rich and poor, young and old, who each obtained immortality separately, in their own ways, and later found each other as best of friends. They spend all day, everyday, partying.

>> No.11363427

>>11362836
Taoist immortals sound very chill.

>> No.11363474

>>11362836
Ah, yes. Those immortals.

They are the greatest thing that never come out of Taoism. No other mythology has a group of pretty sweet motherfuckers who don't give a fuck like them.

While groups of hero exist in Greek, Norse or Irish mythology, they tend to be both temporary and doomed by canon. The Eight Immortals aren't. The Eight Immortals are simply eight characters who were so awesome they decided to team up and be even more awesome together.

For all eternity.

>> No.11363477

>>11363474
Imagine becoming immortal, but the only other immortals are /jp/ nerds.

>> No.11363507

>>11362836
Now that I think about it, why not translating 仙人 to Immortal instead of Hermit? It conveys the more important fact about this state, namely being effectively immortal, and since Connor MacLeod, people are accustomed to immortals having strange powers and following weird mystic laws.

It would have been far better than hermit.

>> No.11363509

>>11363477
nooooooOOOOO

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is ch 18 translated yet?

>> No.11363613

>>11363507
>It would have been far better than hermit.
Because it doesn’t refer to the type of immortal but it would have been a better fit I guess.
Or let’s just use ‘hilly peepz’.

>> No.11363653

>>11363507
Hindsight is always 20:20, but back when the term first needed to be translated, it was the PMiSS article about weird ascetic old people spending their lives reciting sutras.

Though immortal won't do anyway. One, they aren't actually immortal, just long-lived, and two, we need the word for the true immortals of Touhou.

>> No.11363658

>>11363507
>>11363653
And even more importantly, Ibarakasen isn't subtitled "Wild and Horned Immortal". Looks like we're stuck with it.

>> No.11363694

>>11363517
Yes, search the archive for the link.

>> No.11363755

>>11363658
>>11363653
That I understand, but no amount of tl notes can alleviate the fact that hermit is a very, very bad fit for 仙人.

Actually, I would have kept Sennin. Better a foreign word without baggage that a word with heavy connotations that don't match the original. Or compounded hermit with another word: legendary hermit, immortal hermit, something something hermit. Hermit alone carries meaning far off 仙人.

Yes, yes, it's easier in hindsight, I know. Though nothing prevents people from changing to good practices tomorrow.

>> No.11366042

She's a truNEET

>> No.11366061

>pretending to be a hermit
Isn't pretty much the only qualification beating the shinigami (I guess for Gensokyo that'd mean Komachi) whenever she's assed to try taking you?

>> No.11370764

>>11366042
Unlike the rest of us

>> No.11370805

>>11342106

There was a boom of her doujins at the start.

But it died out for some reason.

>> No.11370808

>>11370805
Wasn't that mostly porn, though? She still gets those.

>> No.11370810
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11370810

Are we ever going to get a western devil in Touhou?

Onis are fun and all, but we have more than enough of them already.

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>>11370810

>> No.11370842

>>11370814

That's an imp.

>> No.11370912

>>11370810
T H E W E S T I S T H E D E V I L

>> No.11375840 [DELETED] 

Janitor is a piece of shit fucking loser.

He's delusional. No one in real life, or online, can stand his autistic bullshit. No one likes it. Do you hear that janitor? Everyone fucking hates you, it is not a select few people, it is the majority of this board. There is a huge problem with that and guess whose fault is? It's yours you fucking dipshit, stop blaming everyone else.

The mods even hate you. You think they like dealing with your 70 stupid ass ban requests everyday? No, they don't. Why don't you just fucking leave already.

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>> No.11378308

Boy that person I'm talking about is a huge fucking idiot.

>> No.11378320

>>11378308
You're the real idiot here, thinking spam is helping anything.

>> No.11378360

>>11342109
That escalated quickly. Is this official? or doujin?

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