[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 121 KB, 800x600, 6fc4388053ce903130e8c3a57f22c846.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270218 No.11270218[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why do people feel the urge to commit suicide? What is the evolutionary benefit of suicidal tendencies?

>> No.11270223
File: 89 KB, 722x600, usNZ7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270223

Genetic mutation and environmental factors. In the same way they cause some people to reach for the stars they send others to hell. It's nothing more than that.

>> No.11270222

It's better for everyone if useless people die off.

>> No.11270224

When you feel so bad you just want to sleep, and death is just that

>> No.11270227

there is no evolutionary benefit.
to kill yourself you have to delude yourself into believing you'll be better off afterwards, otherwise nature won't let you.

>> No.11270234

>>11270227
Atheists also have suicidal tendencies. How is being dead a "better off"?

>> No.11270233
File: 177 KB, 1000x1167, 1274217529256.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270233

>>11270218
What's the point of living?

especially if people are just going to bully you all the time anyway

>> No.11270245

>>11270234
this has nothing to do with religion

>> No.11270238

>>11270222
I'd be inclined to think it's along the idea of hurr weeding out the weak social darwinism at work thing. However, quite a few objectively successful people in terms of money, fame and power also kill themselves. That would be something this idea doesn't want. The talented should live on and breed as much as possible under this kind of thinking.

>> No.11270241

>>11270234
If your life is shit, not existing seems like a nice alternative.

>> No.11270248

When I get depressed and feel like killing myself I just listen to this song and everything is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gC4dcu_CvA

>> No.11270249
File: 128 KB, 1070x720, clarice-act.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270249

>>11270233
Not quite true. You either become a god (beyond human, enlightenment) or become a demon (devours humans, that is to say become the bullies' bully).

Of course, you can do both.

>> No.11270255
File: 31 KB, 480x640, 03mi7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270255

If you couldn't have suicidal tendencies you couldn't have anything else. That's the benefit, being so influenced by your surroundings that you can develop one way or another.

>> No.11270258

You've failed society in some way, the pain of shame is too much, you truly understand

>> No.11270260
File: 638 KB, 1058x800, 1373236596089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270260

"If something goes wrong I can always kill myself." Is my philosophy.

>> No.11270263

It's altruistic. People who are not an asset to society are a liability, so everyone worthwhile benefits from their death.

>> No.11270271

>>11270263
But animals are not trying to kill or force other animals from their own race into suicide, unless you are a black widow spider, but getting eaten has some benefit too.

>> No.11270274

>>11270263
It may rather be something to do with a sense of belonging and affection. Even neckbear shutins people in /jp/ feel that they belong to something.

When all that is lost endorphines cease being produced and self destruction seems like the only way out.

>> No.11270278
File: 470 KB, 555x630, 1368102359331.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11270278

who SUICIDAL here

>> No.11270287

1. See Yume Nikki image.
2. "Cool, a Yume Nikki thread! We haven't had one in a while!"
3. Read comment text.
4. "Oh..."
5. Sigh and report thread.

>> No.11270288

>>11270278
Me.

My only wish is to commit double suicide with a girl who loves me.

>> No.11270288,1 [INTERNAL] 

Stay strong /ghost/ bros...

>> No.11270288,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,1
....

>> No.11270288,3 [INTERNAL] 

it's a genetic defect

suicidal people literally have a gene that makes them feel that way

>> No.11270288,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,3
I always knew I was special

>> No.11270288,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,4
People who ride the short bus tend to be ` `special"

>> No.11270288,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,5
Please consider reevaluating your life and killing yourself.

Also it's '' instead of "

>> No.11270288,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,6
Sorry I'm 14

>> No.11270288,8 [INTERNAL] 

Sorry I'm not sorry #notallmen

>> No.11270288,9 [INTERNAL] 

It's a form of natural selection.


>>11270288,3
>suicide gene

Holy shit what a retard.

>> No.11270288,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,9
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111007113941.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=genetic-link-to-suicidal-behavior-confirmed

Cool fucking meme arrows, kid why don't you back that up with science?

Oh wait, you can't, because you literally have zero knowledge of anything except your epic imageboard memes you fucking NEET failure loser.

>> No.11270288,11 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,10
Are you just pretending to be retarded? A genetic aspect to suicide does not mean there is a gene that you either have or don't have that determines if you'll ever commit suicide or not, you stupid fuck. God damn retarded kids ready a blog and thinking they understand how complex things work.

>> No.11270288,12 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,11
>there is a gene that you either have or don't have that determines if you'll ever commit suicide or not

No one ever implied that, you autistic fucking retard.

Being a NEET is bad for you because you have the scientific understand of a third grader.

Go to fucking college, loser.

>> No.11270288,13 [INTERNAL] 

Heh, I shut that retard up. Don't come on the dub spouting retardedness

>> No.11270288,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,12
>No one ever implied that
>>11270288,3
>suicidal people literally have a gene

Embarrassing.. people really shouldn't talk about things they don't know anything about. It's even more cringeworthy when they misinterpret science because of their low IQ and lack of education.

Thankfully I'm here to guide you down the path of knowledge and show you where you made your mistake.

>> No.11270288,15 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,12
>you have the scientific understand

heh

>> No.11270288,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,14
suicidal people do have a gene, unless there are severe issues in their environment that cause them to kill themselves

people like robin williams or your /jp/ depression neet have the gene.

fucking idiot go back to your shitty blogsite

>> No.11270288,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,12
>Further studies are required to elucidate its role in suicidal behaviour.

I don't think you even read that study. I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about not that the other dude does.

>> No.11270288,18 [INTERNAL] 


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11843783

http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/3/194.short


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470698976.ch4/summary

https://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=495190

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470698976.ch4/summary

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2014/08/09/genetic-biomarker-identified-that-may-predict-suicide-risk/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK107191/

http://www.suicidefindinghope.com/content/genetics_of_suicide

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/30/simple-blood-test-shows-genetic-risk-of-suicide-early-enough-to-head-off-a-catastrophe/

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/05_00/suicide_gene.shtml

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/US-scientists-indentify--suicide--gene

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/suicide-blood-test_n_5635483.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/suicide-blood-test_n_5635483.html

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/nov/14/gene-raises-suicide-risk

http://brainblogger.com/2011/04/12/suicide-
gene-identified/

>> No.11270288,19 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,16
Suicide having a genetic aspect doesn't mean there's a "gene" that hardcodes whether you're going to kill yourself or not. What is it with retards who don't understand basic science voicing their retarded interpretations of things they don't understand?

>> No.11270288,20 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,18
Notice how only the journalists talk about a "suicide gene". The scientific publications talk about an overlap between mental disorders and suicides. The formers can have genetic causes and can lead people to suicide but there's not an actual suicide gene

>> No.11270288,21 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,20
they are genetically predisposed to suicide

this is science not semantics you little fuck

>> No.11270288,22 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,21
>they are genetically predisposed to suicide

Which is completely different from having a "suicide gene". I get that you don't understand what you're talking about, but at least try to come across as less of a retard in the future.

>> No.11270288,23 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,18
Half of those are garbage and the other half don't discount the cultural/environmental role, which is what really groups demographics toward suicide. It's like you've googled up suicide gene, linked random shit, but really have no understanding of genetics in psychology.

>> No.11270288,24 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,23
as if you have any understanding of "genetics in psychology"

>"It's a form of natural selection."

Puh-leeze.

>> No.11270288,25 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,21
How can you argue about science without using the proper semantics? It's like if tomorrow an astrophysicist called the Earth a star.

>> No.11270288,26 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,24
It is though.
They either off themselves before they have any kids, or their kids grow up depressed and stupid and get themselves killed quickly.

>> No.11270288,27 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,26
Are you trolling? Life doesn't self-destruct because of muh natural selection

>> No.11270288,28 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,25
No it's not, you're arguing over autistic little things because you're a fucking loser NEET with literally no education other than anime and hentai characters

>> No.11270288,29 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,28
You're messing with the wrong guy. I'll have you know that I'm actually a science student.

>> No.11270288,30 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,29
proves whar a shit education you got at ur uni

you're so boring now

>> No.11270288,31 [INTERNAL] 

I'm tired as shit. Can you guys stop arguing for a bit?

>> No.11270288,32 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,28
If you're not a NEET who jacks it to cartoons please go.

>> No.11270288,33 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,30
What's your education then, big boy?

Are you an Ivy League graduate?

>> No.11270288,34 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,33
I am at an Ivy League university, yes. Beats taking online classes at FSU and being proud of it lol

>> No.11270288,35 [INTERNAL] 

my triggers:
-lo* an**les
-L*
-UC*A
-fre**man
-soph**ore
-jun**r
-sen**r
-cal**orn*a
-c**i
-f**ternity
-so**rity
-underg**d
-postg**d
-pro**ssor
-lec**re
-d*rm
-kor*a
-co**ege
-un**ers*ty

please PLEASE do not say any of these in this or any other ghost threads

>> No.11270288,36 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,34
holy fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

>> No.11270288,37 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,35
Lo

>> No.11270288,38 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270248
lol what the acutal FUCK

>> No.11270288,39 [INTERNAL] 

what do you listen to when you arent feeling happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbip5oZVL94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwFlPKBzDzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtEx5GkR4JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAGMjnsRReE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ69BOGIjfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5n_l7QvSPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC9kQX56cyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THhKEIQderE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vqvfxoRBg

im sorry for posting too many

>> No.11270288,40 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,39
Why are these songs from videogames? Listen to grown up music you fucking manchild

>> No.11270288,41 [INTERNAL] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I

>> No.11270288,42 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,40
Shut up...

>> No.11270288,43 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,42
Sorry, I just want bully someone.

>> No.11270288,44 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,43
are you a girl? if so you can bully me

>> No.11270288,45 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,44
Excuse me?

>> No.11270288,46 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,45
please dominate me

i want to be a slave and treated like a worthless object by a woman

>> No.11270288,47 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,46
I'm not a woman you freak

>> No.11270288,48 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,47
you are if i believe hard enough

please suffocate me!

>> No.11270288,49 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,41
i like this

>> No.11270288,50 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,49
sounds like [b]SHIT

>> No.11270288,51 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270248
Trevor...

>> No.11270288,52 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270248
I actually like this song

>> No.11270288,53 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,52
Yeah. It feels kind of uplifting.

>> No.11270288,54 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,53
Makes me want to go outside to be honest

>> No.11270288,55 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,54
Woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

>> No.11270288,56 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,55
I'll just open the windows

>> No.11270288,57 [INTERNAL] 

weepinbell

>> No.11270288,58 [INTERNAL] 

is my favorite pocket monster

>> No.11270288,59 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,57
>>11270288,58
>not hoppip or female frillish
Die, monster.

>> No.11270288,60 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,59
whom are you quoting newbuddy?

>> No.11270288,61 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,58
Mine is missingno (only oldfags will get it).

>> No.11270288,62 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,61
Haha I remember missingno PENIS VAGINA GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY weaboo roodypoo candyass FUCK THE POH LEECE
[b]I AM A HUGE FAGGOT. PLEASE RAPE MY FACE

>> No.11270288,63 [INTERNAL] 

>>11270288,60
Nice irony dude

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action