http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUk_2JebvrA Did anyone else grow up with this cartoon? It got me into otaku culture.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUk_2JebvrA

Did anyone else grow up with this cartoon? It got me into otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:18:37 2013 No.11234688 File: 193 KB, 1215x891, postqneojp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i miss Olde Otaku Culture /jp/, before this board became just a dozen /pol/ nerds discussing jap-usa relations and imagedumping their asian porn folders :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:18:37 2013 No.11234689 I grew up with Macross.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:19:07 2013 No.11234690

It makes me upset that Generation X weeaboos hate Carl Macek. He did amazing things for the time period he was active in, and 4chan wouldn't even exist if he hadn't had the gonads to sell this Jap shit to American kids.

God bless you, Macek-san. May angels fly you to rest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:20:23 2013 No.11234695 >>11234689 being this young or Japanese while also being on /jp/ ^ I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:21:37 2013 No.11234699 How did he make friends with other people no some foreign island and a military spaceship? If you put a neurotypical in a new environment, do they make friends?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:21:52 2013 No.11234700 >>11234695 How would that make him young?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:24:07 2013 No.11234707 >>11234700 Because people in their 30s/40s remember Robotech, people in their teens/20s remember Macross (which they watched last year on "the internet").

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:32:22 2013 No.11234729 >>11234707 I've watched it on the TV, anon. I was a teenager back then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:35:07 2013 No.11234733 >>11234729 I'm pretty sure as HELL the outside-Japan distribution rights of the original Macross series weren't granted until the late 2000s. Are you sure you want to admit you're in your early 20s on /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:38:22 2013 No.11234740 >>11234733 Dude, there's something called video tapes. Ever heard of that? You're probably too young to remember such things, poor anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:39:22 2013 No.11234741 >>11234740 When I was a kid, I watched anime on Laserdiscs, because I was a truOTAKU.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:40:07 2013 No.11234751 >>11234740 >>11234741 I have no idea what either of these things are. Crazy geezers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:42:23 2013 No.11234754 >>11234751 Video tapes were like iTunes but on strips of magic in a plastic box. Laserdiscs were like Blu-rays but the size of records. Records were like CDs but bigger. CDs were like big GameCube discs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:43:38 2013 No.11234757 That feel when you have an infant relative and he'll never push a VHS into a VCR. I don't feel bad because it's a better format or anything (it isn't) but I feel like he should have that experience, at least once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:53:52 2013 No.11234781 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3izRIqNKzE I love how autistically nationalistic it sounds

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:54:07 2013 No.11234784 >>11234757 Gunk-gunk-shiiik-clack-click-clack-wwwiiiiiirrrrrRRRRR-GRINDGRINDGRINDCHEWCHEWCHEW-GRRRR-CLACK-CLACK-CLACK-CLACK-CLACK-GRRRRRrrrrr... Fucking VCR ate the tape again. Jam it back in the case and return it to Blockbuster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:54:23 2013 No.11234783 >>11234757 Why? What's so special about it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:55:52 2013 No.11234788 >>11234781 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGFy3V7a7I Speaking of nationalistic, in the Macross Flashback 2012 special, they included stock footage of Japanese soldiers. Made me LOL like HELL.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:56:37 2013 No.11234790 >>11234784 >Jam it back in the case and return it to Blockbuster. But I bet you didn't even try to rewind it first, you dirty fucker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 15:57:52 2013 No.11234797 Maaaakurossu! Maaaakurossu! ♪♫

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:00:37 2013 No.11234812 >>11234790 At that point, the tape was UNDER one of the spools. Rewinding was not an option, and the tape had those silver security labels so you couldn't fix it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:27:19 2013 No.11234897 >>11234672 aye. but this is /a/ related.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:31:22 2013 No.11234907

I didn't grow up with it but I watched it and Voltron and G-force on cartoon network.

I was raised on things like the mysterious cities of gold and adventures of the little koala and maya the bee and noozles and whatever other anime nickelodeon showed back then. After that, it was stuff like Zieram the Animation and Ninja Scroll and the like.
Robotech is pretty cool but I wish there wasn't a big shit about Macross and Battletech.

Also the only good Macross are Plus and Zero.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:34:22 2013 No.11234913 >>11234672 Kill yourself

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:41:52 2013 No.11234932
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>>11234672
Ghost in the Shell, Vampire Hunter D, Akira and other movies on Manga Entertainment VHS tapes (linked) got me into Otaku Culture. It's a shame that anime now is only plotless moeshit with cute girls doing cute things while in high school (pick related). Anime used to be totally badass, deep, and grimdark like it should be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LJv3_10f7E

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:43:07 2013 No.11234935 >>11234907 >I watched it and Voltron Did you watch the Voltron Power Hour?

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:47:53 2013 No.11234942

>>11234907
>Also the only good Macross are Plus and Zero.

Oh no you didn't.

Macross Plus had a good plot and great animation. A safe blend of traditional animation and CGI, with a decent side story plot to see it through.
Macross Zero had a terrible plot full of retcons and mediocre animation. The CGI was awfully CGI-looking (though still entertaining to watch) but the plot was laughably stupid. Which is a shame, because I really like what they tried to do.

SDF Macross was the best Macross (except for the animation which hasn't aged well at all), and every sequel has been mediocre besides the music.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:52:53 2013 No.11234960 >>11234932 Is this post a parody?

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:54:52 2013 No.11234969

>>11234932
Your problem is that you're comparing TV to ova and movie. That is and always what happened in OVA and movies. Although admittedly cute girls and harems used to actually fight things as well as sit around.

Go watch Strait Jacket, Mardock Scramble, the new Ghosts in the Shell movie, Hellsing OVAs, etc.

Also ovas back then where these half-cocked, cover-two-volumes-in-the-middle-of-a-manga-in-45-minutes, nonsensical affairs that were mostly good only for being gory.

>>11234935
I don't know what that is, so unless it was on CN, then no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:58:52 2013 No.11234988 >>11234942 >Macross Plus had a good plot How fucking retarded do you have to be to even suggest something like this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:59:37 2013 No.11234991 Slayers and Daft Punk clips got me into otaku culture. Then I've read the Slayers novels. They are so much better than the anime. I had such good taste when I was a kid, shame about the Daft Punk part.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:06:07 2013 No.11235030

Pokemon, Yugioh, and Gundam Wing Endless Waltz. I also had a couple VHS tapes of DBZ and Sailor Moon that I would religiously watch. I've always been somewhat autistic with anime.

I remember I got a couple DVDs at a garage sale when I was 11 or so. NGE Death/Rebirth, and some ero OVA involving demons fucking a bunch of big titted girls in a school basement. I think NGE fucked me up more than that ero OVA did.

And then I discovered torrenting back when it was still fairly new. I stopped because my "friends" made fun of me.

>>11234932
Really good job, I thought I was actually on /a/ for a second there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:09:07 2013 No.11235041 >>11234988 What? Macross Plus had a great plot. It wasn't hurr durr save the world, but it was a perfect gaiden about three characters' relationships with each other. Fuck you.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:09:22 2013 No.11235037

>>11234942
>SDF Macross was the best Macross (except for the animation which hasn't aged well at all)
That's a real shame with any old show. Still, I appreciate all the work that went into it, and it has that charm that only traditional cel animation has.

Besides, it's okay, DYRL? has pretty amazing animation.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:09:53 2013 No.11235040

Anime stopped being good in 2007. This person is completely correct.
>>11234932

I liked it a lot when I was a kid and in my early teens, but when anime became nothing but shows of girls doing "cute" things and sitting around ice cream parlors and gossiping I stopped giving a shit. I really don't care if there's "battle scenes" where cute girls kill enemies in overly dramatic magical ways. It's shit. It's pure shit compared to what used to be out there. You can debate that point if you want, but you're wrong. There's no depth to any of it anymore.

I'm not asking for every anime story-line to win a Pulitzer, but come on. Every single show that comes out these days is "I am a shy boy/girl in high school, and there is a boy/girl that I like who acts tsundere to me." Cue the meaningless obsession with a sport or a hobby, here, and add a dash of pseudo-intellectual faggotry. Or, alternatively, "Hi I am a girl/boy in this crowd of girls. Zany antics ensue!" There's nothing worse than a comedy that isn't funny, and anime is awash with such shit right now.

Moe isn't dominating because it's good. Moe is dominating because it caters to the needs of girlfriendless shut-in Japanese males in their late 20s with expendable income. That's what's being made because that's what's selling. Moe is to Japan what Bronyism is to Americans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:13:53 2013 No.11235061 >>11235041 You could have just written "very retarded", it would have saved you a lot of time. Macross Plus plot is shit and the characters are boring. It's only good for the mech porn.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:18:37 2013 No.11235079

>>11235037
>Besides, it's okay, DYRL? has pretty amazing animation.

It's definitely one of the prettiest films I've seen, but the plot is boring and the characters are flat. It's what happens when you condense a longish television series into a single film, even if the series had a lot of dull and out-of-nowhere moments. I can't imagine someone who only watched DYRL understanding the relationship between Hikaru and Lynn Minmay, or caring about Roy Focker's death, because the characters weren't properly established. But as an audio-visual spectacle, it's great.

There was a Macross pachinko game and they reanimated some old clips. Normally I'd be heavily against going back and redoing an old series, but it would be pretty cool seeing a full episode of the original SDF Macross animated in a 21st-century style.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:21:22 2013 No.11235089

>>11235040
>when anime became nothing but shows of girls doing "cute" things and sitting around ice cream parlors and gossiping I stopped giving a shit.

This. Imagine every American TV series was Friends. I honestly like Friends, but come the fuck on. Give us characters more developed than a simple stereotype, or action beyond getting to a party in time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:22:52 2013 No.11235095 I watched the anime that aired on Saturday morning television and after school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:26:53 2013 No.11235104 File: 756 KB, 241x182, 1353901417568.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235095 >tfw you'll never again wake up on a Saturday morning, eat waffles your dad made, and then watch weird esoteric Japanese cartoons on the SciFi Channel

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:28:37 2013 No.11235106 >>11235089 It's not even Friends. It's Sex and the City, minus the plot-lines about dried out hags fucking a gas station attendant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:29:22 2013 No.11235109 >>11235104 We didn't have cable when I was a kid. I had to watch it on the Kids WB.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:30:23 2013 No.11235113
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>>11235037
I've found that most of the old charm I've missed is just shading, and the way they drew eyes and hair.

>>11235040
>I really don't care if there's "battle scenes" where cute girls kill enemies in overly dramatic magical ways. It's shit.
Magical girl anime have always been around. Cute girls doing cute things has always been around. Tsunderes and love comedies have always been around. If you hate school anime, blame Azumanga Daioh.

>It's pure shit compared to what used to be out there. You can debate that point if you want, but you're wrong. There's no depth to any of it anymore.

Bullshit and more bullshit. The only thing anime is missing nowadays is giant transforming robots and power ranger squads.

Name a good old anime that isn't about robots, romance, or "Hi I am a girl/boy in this crowd of girls. Zany antics ensue!", or some shitty plot hidden under blood and gore ova/movie.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:30:38 2013 No.11235115

>>11235040
>>11235089
You guys are joking, right? This is a parody?

Moe anime is not the only thing that comes out, nor is it just "cute girls doing cute things". K-On had more depth than your run-of-the-mill action show or pseudointellectual chuuni show. It's about coming together, growing up, and then letting go.

All of these SoL shows, in one way or another, explore the transience of youth. Japanese are very in touch with this sentiment, especially because of the high demands of the working world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:32:38 2013 No.11235120 File: 92 KB, 370x305, 1372297834872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235040 You hit the nail right on the head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:32:38 2013 No.11235121 >>11235104 I'm more sad about not having a Saturday morning full of good Western toons anymore.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:33:52 2013 No.11235125

>>11235061
>Macross Plus plot is shit and the characters are boring.

The characters seemed like real people with genuine relationships and heartfelt backstories.

What more do you want? If you think people need to save the world for a plot to be good, fine, but the Macross Plus characters were effective for the self-contained story they were in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:36:37 2013 No.11235135 Ninety percent of all anime are some combination of mecha, adventure, and girls anyway. Those that aren't are generally hailed as masterpieces but nobody buys the box sets so whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:39:07 2013 No.11235149 >>11235135 >Those that aren't are generally hailed as masterpieces but nobody buys the box sets so whatever. Macross and Evangelion called, you're wrong.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:41:07 2013 No.11235164

>>11235115
I feel like this is a generational argument. People who watched stuff from the late 90s/early 2000's know quality. Everyone else knows what they grew up with and will of course defend it from criticism. It's like trying to explain how a Honda Civic isn't better than a Dodge Charger to a person whose first car is a Civic.

It's funny you mention K-On though, because a lot of people point to that show as what ended up ruining anime as a genre. Pretty girls doing pretty girl things does not, a good show, make. If I wanted that I could just turn on any shitty American teen sitcom for the past 30 years.

>>11235113
>Name a good old anime that isn't about robots, romance, or "Hi I am a girl/boy in this crowd of girls. Zany antics ensue!"
GITS. Trigun. Hellsing. Escaflowne. Outlaw Star. Lain. About a billion others, but those are the ones everyone knows.

I can't name a single show out right now because they're all the same. I can't name a single character from a current show that everyone universally knows. They all blur together. I can point to Motoko and say "That's the chick from GITS", and everyone fucking knows Motoko, even people who don't watch anime. Sure as shit couldn't do the same now.

That's the difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:41:37 2013 No.11235162 >>11235149 Did those stop being mecha shows when I wasn't looking?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:46:07 2013 No.11235182 >>11235135 Lupin the Third? Or does that count as adventure? It's like you're covering all your bases and I don't know what argument you're making. Successful cartoons that aren't about girls eating food are exciting? No shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:48:51 2013 No.11235188 >>11235164 >It's like trying to explain how a Honda Civic isn't better than a Dodge Charger to a person whose first car is a Civic. Can someone explain this analogy to me? I'm serious, I don't know shit about cars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:49:07 2013 No.11235194 >>11235188 They're the same thing: budget box daily drivers and one isn't objectively better than the other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:49:07 2013 No.11235195 >>11235188 A Charger is a sexy piece of American hardware that makes your dick burst out of your jeans the second you touch foot to gas peddle. A Civic is what your drunk ass dad buys from a police auction for $300 because he hates you.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:49:21 2013 No.11235191

>>11235164
>Sure as shit couldn't do the same now.
That's only because people are just watching what they want to watch now, not just masterpieces their friends recommended and whatever-got-ported-to-America.

>I can't name a single show out right now because they're all the same.
I'm pretty sure you can't name a single show out there right now because you don't watch modern anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:50:37 2013 No.11235199 >>11235182 Adventure was too broad a category. I should have meant "shonen adventure," where the MC has mystical powers and is out to save the world from the demon king. So Lupin III wouldn't qualify.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:53:37 2013 No.11235214

>>11235191
>because you don't watch modern anime.
Guilty as charged. And for good reason.
The last "modern anime" I saw was two weeks ago at this chick's house, and she put on one where it's a bunch of dudes obsessed with swimming, and one guy is tsundere for another guy, and there was obvious homosexual undertones. Even disregarding the gay stuff, it most definitely fell directly into the "I'm a [blank] in high school, and I like [blank]. The only way to win [blank]'s heart is to participate in this shitty boring hobby!"

I feel justified in my decision to stop watching, quite honestly. Shows should be entertaining, not a job to slog through hoping for some glimmer of satisfaction at the end of it all.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:54:07 2013 No.11235222

>>11235164
>People who watched stuff from the late 90s/early 2000's know quality
Awful, groundless argument. I grew up during the 90's. Anime has changed very little. What's funny is that moe anime only continues the dynamic of shows like Urusei Yatsura, but because they generally have some sort of progression, we see character development and actual "human" drama rather than the same slapstick antics over and over.

If you want to talk about non moe anime, there's tons of it unless you confuse bishoujo with moe. One of my favorite series, Tatami Galaxy, came out in 2010.

You really don't know what you're talking about, just like those idiots on anime forums who confuse "action" or grimdark faggotry with depth. Chuunibyou had more depth simply by parodying such garbage.

That's not to say that classics like GiTS are not deep. The original film is a masterpiece, but stuff like Trigun or Hellsing or Escaflowne are not "deep". They're simply decently told stories (except Hellsing, the anime was pretty bad).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:54:52 2013 No.11235221 >>11235199 OK, but which car can drive from location A to location B? Can both of them? I'm a NEET looking to get a driver's license, but maybe I need a car otaku to explain these things to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:55:08 2013 No.11235227 >>11235214 You should have picked shows that cater more to your taste. If you hate school life and you watch a school life show you only have one person to blame.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:55:22 2013 No.11235224

>>11235164
>Name a good old anime that isn't about robots, romance, or "Hi I am a girl/boy in this crowd of girls. Zany antics ensue!"

>GITS.
About robots + is still being made. SAC. New movies.

>Trigun. Hellsing.
Hellsing isn't that old, and the OVAs are still relatively recent. So is Black Lagoon. I think Trigun got a movie recently too. There's also Trinity Blood. Shooting shit anime isn't uncommon even nowadays. I'd argue Trigun is "Hi I am a girl/boy in this crowd of girls. Zany antics ensue!" half the time.

>Escaflowne.
Nothing but robots and romance. Complete failure here.

>Outlaw Star.
Robots(spaceships). Also it's no different than those goofy adventure anime that come out every season that no one watches.

>Lain.
"Deep", "weird" anime are sill common.
Denno Coil has the technological internet aspect too.

I'd also argue that none of them are that old to begin with.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:58:07 2013 No.11235236

>>11235164
>People who watched stuff from the late 90s/early 2000's know quality. Everyone else knows what they grew up with and will of course defend it from criticism.

Oh the fucking irony.

By the way I grew up with "late 90s/early 2000's" anime and I think anime is still good. Maybe because I'm not blinded by nostalgia or maybe because I'm able to appreciate more than just action anime (which is what people mean when they reference "90's anime").

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:58:37 2013 No.11235237 >>11235227 >implying there's any shows out now that aren't school life

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:59:07 2013 No.11235246 >>11235237 Attack on Titan isn't about school life.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:59:22 2013 No.11235240

>>11235222
>Anime has changed very little.

What about the art style?

>moe anime only continues the dynamic of shows like Urusei Yatsura

Seriously? That's the example you're going with? Nobody denies that anime has generally been about attractive young women doing quirky things (hell, look at the Daicon intros) but it's stupid to base your argument on one show like this. Urusei Yatsura isn't "deep" and it won't teach you about existentialist ennui or whatever people pretend to care about, but it's a lot more interesting than K-On!.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:00:37 2013 No.11235249 >>11235237 I don't have an appropriate reaction image for this so if you could reply with one for me I would really appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:01:07 2013 No.11235252 K-ON!! is deprecated. Discussions of modern anime should now be centered around Madoka Magica. Please update your arguments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:02:37 2013 No.11235255 File: 111 KB, 500x500, anime question girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does ne1 else remember mobile police patlabor

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:05:08 2013 No.11235263 >>11235255 Patlabor is okay but more boring than awesome.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:05:22 2013 No.11235260
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>>11235240
>What about the art style?
There's no overall art style for anime, just notable ones. Ones that make you think 80s and 90s. Those both still show up. The only thing that happened is that there are more artists, and so more styles. The same low quality shit from the 90s still looks like the same low quality shit from the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:05:53 2013 No.11235262 Anime was never good.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:08:07 2013 No.11235273
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>>11235263
am i the only person who likes slow cartoons

not boring stuff like hello i am a high school girl who is normal

but things like i am a robot operator this is my downtime

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:09:07 2013 No.11235277 This is your daily reminder that ban evaders should be reported on sight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:10:22 2013 No.11235278 >>11235262 I don't feel as excited about anime as I used to be. I rarely watch any shows nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:11:07 2013 No.11235282 >>11235278 I know that feel. Though it's mostly because my computer is old, and can't play these newfangled h264 videos. So right now, all these new releases and contemporary /jp/ anime memes just depress me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:12:37 2013 No.11235284 File: 50 KB, 400x534, MODERN ANIME IZ BEST ANIME.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235249

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:13:37 2013 No.11235293 >>11235277 This is your daily reminder than you're fucking crazy, dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:14:37 2013 No.11235297 I want /a/ to leave late night animu is made to appeal to otaku. if you don't enjoy it then you must not be tru-otaku

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:15:07 2013 No.11235303 >>11235297 Late night anime is /a/'s favourite though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:15:23 2013 No.11235299
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>>11235282

Before I got my laptop last year I was downloading 480p releases and converting 720p into avi when 480p wasn't available.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:15:38 2013 No.11235300

>>11235240
>What about the art style?
I was referring to narrative differences. Obviously stylistic differences exist, especially from the 90s to 2000s with the shift to digital.

>Urusei Yatsura isn't "deep" and it won't teach you about existentialist ennui or whatever people pretend to care about, but it's a lot more interesting than K-On!.
Stupid argument. Urusei Yatsura has some very deep episodes and films. K-On also has some which utilize the same surrealism and focus on human relationships. Yet, K-On possesses a greater degree of character depth because of its linear nature. S2, especially, puts the girls against the very simple issue of graduation and parting ways, and show the various ways in which this is resolved. This is character and narrative depth.

If you don't like moe anime, it's simply because you're not in touch with the Japanese aesthetics that drive them. The reason why I brought Urusei Yatsura into the picture is because it's very Japanese, it popularized the concept of "chara", and it's the prototypical moe anime.

I think people who needlessly hate on moe anime are lacking in the ability to appreciate the deceptive simplicities of life. Even as escapism, there's the constant reminder that it all must end at some point. It's the comfortable delusion that knows it is such.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:16:07 2013 No.11235305

>>11235300
> K-On also has some which utilize the same surrealism and focus on human relationships. Yet, K-On possesses a greater degree of character depth because of its linear nature. S2, especially, puts the girls against the very simple issue of graduation and parting ways, and show the various ways in which this is resolved. This is character and narrative depth.

Oh god.

The worst part is, I don't believe you're being ironic.

Thank you, so much. You have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:17:07 2013 No.11235309 >>11235305 So are we done yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:23:52 2013 No.11235326 >>11234932 FUCKING MOESHIT KILLING THE INDUSTRY!!! REMEMBER WHEN ANIME WAS GOOD LIKE GURREN LAGANN AND COWBOY BEBOP?

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:24:08 2013 No.11235330
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>>11235309
Not even close.

Anime that incorporates these factors is the highest rated anime (9.4).

>Action, Androids, Angst, Conspiracy, Cyberpunk, Dystopia, Gunfights, Mecha, Post-apocalyptic, SciFi, Seinen

The lowest rated shit tier anime (6.4) has these elements:

>Comedy, Daily Life, High School, School Life, Seinen, Slapstick

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:25:23 2013 No.11235332 >>11235326 Shitposting that is parodying somebody else is still shitposting. Also it's two hours late.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:26:37 2013 No.11235336 >>11235330 More people like conspiracy and action than girls talking, who knew?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:28:52 2013 No.11235343 >>11235330 >Angst <staples hand to forehead> Oh, the goth.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:29:52 2013 No.11235346

>>11235252
Madoka is ridiculously overblown, but probably because there hasn't been such an ambitious show like that in a while. It's no NGE, but I applaud it for trying. It has a compelling story, and is executed cleanly, unlike NGE.

However, it lacks the ridiculous metanarrative of NGE: a narrative that falls apart because it cannot contain the ideas it is trying to express as a result of its own self-reflexive existence.

>>11235305
You obviously don't know what depth is then. The characters build until that eventual point in which you see their struggles with the inevitable parting. Azusa has weird fever dreams when she's pondering how she fits in with her older bandmates. All of this is subtext which develops the theme of building relationships, only to have them tested and broken with time. It's a very simple and human issue, and it's one that the Japanese love: transience.

>>11235330
What are those, MAL ratings? Who gives a shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:31:52 2013 No.11235348 >>11234672 >>>/m/ >>>/a/

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:40:52 2013 No.11235368
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>>11235343
>>11235336
>>11235346

The next top animu (9.4)
>Cyberpunk, SciFi, Seinen, Virtual Reality

And the next worst (7.1)
>Band, Clubs, Comedy, High School, Music, School Life, Seinen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:42:07 2013 No.11235375 Anime sure must be great if the worst anime ever made got a six point four. Blows shitty mediums like film out of the water.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:47:08 2013 No.11235378
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>>11235346
Madoka didn't try in the slighest, it's Kamen Rider Ryuki just with swapping Toku for Magical girls.

>>11235330
This whole "MANIME", moeshit is killing the industry and why can't every show be as awesome as cowboy bebop. Just proves you're a butthurt crossboarder. Honestly just kill yourself.

Also, Robotech is kuso and you should feel bad for liking it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:48:38 2013 No.11235382 >>11235375 Shitty ratings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 18:55:08 2013 No.11235401 Well I think there's one thing we can all agree on at least: madoka a shit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:00:52 2013 No.11235410
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>>11235378
>"MANIME"

Nothing about what was listed is manime. That's just not the right aesthetic for storytelling. The only good anime with the MC as a male protagonist (who is autistic) is:
NHK ni Youkoso (9.4)
>Angst, Coming of Age, Daily Life, Shounen, Romance

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:01:36 2013 No.11235413

>>11235368
>animu
epic

>>11235378
>Madoka didn't try in the slighest, it's Kamen Rider Ryuki just with swapping Toku for Magical girls.
No, it did attempt to betray the viewer's expectations via contrasts in aesthetic and narrative, and the concept of magical girls being compared to a victims of a Faustian bargain was refreshing, albeit not exactly new.

I won't lie; it was a good show and it did what it aimed to do. Best of all, it at least tried to do something "different", whether aesthetically or narratively or what have you. The subversive nature of it is very reminiscent of NGE, but it lacks NGE's "transcendent" quality.

I think it's another case of a well-done show, but one that's not very deep. Of course, I haven't thought about Madoka to the degree that I've picked apart NGE, but the allusions and references in Madoka seem to be included in a fairly shallow manner, like an afterthought rather than central ideas in which to develop and contextualize the show.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:13:51 2013 No.11235459
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>>11235413
It attempted that but as soon as we knew Gen was writing it people weren't exactly surprised. It didn't do anything "different or original" the whole show is litreally just Kamen Rider Ryuki but with cute girls drawn by Ume.

Madoka wasn't even revolutionary to the industry, there's tons of Utsuge that got adapted if you think "Nice and happy then suddenly, suffering!" is something new you've clearly not watched much at all. Madoka wasn't even the first show to do something with the magical girl genre just look at things like Nanoha and Utena.

>>11235410
If you honestly think something is objectively bad because of it's genre then you're retarded, it's a huge generalisation and is no different than how people look down on different medium of storytelling rather than the story itself.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:30:52 2013 No.11235501
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>>11235459
>objectively bad because of it's genre

There's so much content out there that there's no choice but to filter what you actually watch, and if you know what genre you like then you might as well employ that as a search parameter.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:41:21 2013 No.11235523

>>11235459
>Madoka wasn't even revolutionary to the industry
Not once did I say it was revolutionary in any sense, in fact I said it was overblown. I said it was not new. Magical girl shows have always had self-referential commentary. What Madoka does has been done by various sources including Kamen Rider (which I have not seen). It's similar to NGE in this regard, but again, it is not "transcendent", which is why it feels weak in comparison.

That doesn't change the fact that it's a well done show. It also possesses a sense of ambition, not unlike Utena, but it focused on telling a story rather than obviously trying to cash in on NGE's narrative mess I think it's a little unfair that people keep comparing Madoka to NGE; they are not similar at all.

As for Gen, people who know him weren't surprised, but normal people who didn't know him certainly were.

Does something have to be "original" or revolutionary in order to be good? In this day and age, nothing is original. Even in Anno's day, he acknowledged that. So over a decade later, I applaud a show for simply doing its job: telling a story. It does not need to be "original", (though it is aesthetically unique with regards to Shinbo's direction). It also has some thematic depth for people to chew over for a while.

Revolutionary? No. Masterpiece? Obviously not. But it's a good show. Why it gets so much hate I cannot understand, I can only assume that it's because it's popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:51:07 2013 No.11235556 >>11234754 What the hell is a "Gamecube"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 19:54:36 2013 No.11235562 File: 675 KB, 2150x1700, nintendo gamecube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235378 This. I think it was the last console I owned. Or maybe it was a PS2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:01:36 2013 No.11235593 File: 52 KB, 1024x768, Silent-Hill-4-The-Room.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235562 The PS2/Xpleb generation has objectively the best games. It's only been going downhill since after this masterpiece was made.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:15:36 2013 No.11235645 >>11235593 Silent Hill has a great soundtrack. Lots of good ambient songs to listen to. I'm currently taking it easy while listening to Null Moon

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:18:21 2013 No.11235654

>>11235523
>but normal people who didn't know him certainly were.
They must've been retarded then, since Madoka had a dark, foreboding atmosphere/"aesthetic" since the beginning. Maybe people wouldn't have expected a relatively graphic main character death early on (which was just a shallow shock tactic anyways) but they should've known it wasn't going to be a generic happy magical girl show.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:27:21 2013 No.11235691

>>11235654
It's one of those things that becomes fully realized in retrospect. Mami's inevitable death was painfully obvious, but a lot of people didn't expect it. I also don't think people expected the whole suicide thing or parallel worlds in which magical girls kill each other. In fact, the idea of magical girls competing with each other to survive and then turning into the witches was also unexpected for many (well, casual watchers at least).

From the beginning it plays with contrast, right down to Ume's character designs. Of course it's not going to be Pretty Cure, but dark and brooding does not mean "predictable." Even I was surprised at Mami's death even though I shouldn't have been.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:42:06 2013 No.11235744
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>>11235645
The forum community was awesome too. Lots of artists and fan fic writers. They made new games but they've all been developed by foreign companies after SH4, although Akira Yamaoka stayed on board for a while after.

>>11235654
>>11235691

Awesome, I think I'll give MM another shot. I seem to have gotten lost while watching the first episode, but that's not to say that I didn't think the art was awesome.

>>	Dubs check necrobump Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:36:30 2013 No.11236809 File: 6 KB, 176x62, ged dubl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11235744

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:39:00 2013 No.11236826 My fathers briefs that says "Big in Japan" in front got me into Otaku Culture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:39:00 2013 No.11236827 >>11235744 check'd

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:51:30 2013 No.11236877
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>>11235744

Hey, fuck you dude.

That's my fucking image.

I wanted to post that a few minutes ago for the 11236666 QUADS and I couldn't because you wasted it on those shitty doubles.

FUCK YOU.

I am seriously pissed off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:54:31 2013 No.11236892 >>11235744 czechoslovakia

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:55:31 2013 No.11236895 File: 57 KB, 449x600, 1374972176585.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11236877 Nice post number dude

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 02:56:00 2013 No.11236900 File: 22 KB, 396x407, NEP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11236895 Don't try to consulate me, dipshit. I will fuck you over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:06:30 2013 No.11236921 >>11236900 Fuck you, trevshit. I'll sagepost your images in random threads just to mess you up again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:09:00 2013 No.11236933 >>11236900 >consulate I don't think that's the word you were looking for, dweeb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:22:15 2013 No.11236964 >>11236933 I'm positive my English vernacular is much more extensive than yours, third-country scum.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:26:01 2013 No.11236985 File: 314 KB, 695x572, moeshit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11236877 Here you can have some of my shitty OC to make up for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:30:46 2013 No.11236997 File: 610 KB, 588x766, NEP NEP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11236985 Thanks nerd, but I'm cool now. I literally wrecked that motherfucker so hard he won't even dream to post my images again.

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Sun Jul 28 03:33:32 2013 No.11237008 >>11234672 I sure did. First anime I ever actively watched (Speed Racer was often ON but I didn't follow it on my own). God damn you, Rick Hunter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:35:46 2013 No.11237019 >>11236997

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:40:31 2013 No.11237037 File: 3 KB, 95x125, 1374996633573s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11236997 I'm sure you'll get as buttfrustrated if I started posting spoilered Josh images, shitposter.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:43:46 2013 No.11237050
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>>11237037

That's not my image, faglord.

As long as the file hash is different I can post my images all I want. I don't give two shits if you copy them.

Get rekt in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:44:01 2013 No.11237052 >>11235459 >the whole show is litreally just Kamen Rider Ryuki but with cute girls drawn by Ume The only people who genuinely believe this didn't watch either Madoka or Ryuki

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:48:46 2013 No.11237064 >>11236964 I suggest consulting a dictionary ;)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:49:46 2013 No.11237067 >>11237064 I suggest killing yourself :D

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:56:17 2013 No.11237099 >>11236900 >>11236964 >Definition of CONSULATE >1 : a government by consuls >2 : the office, term of office, or jurisdiction of a consul >3 : the residence or official premises of a consul I don't think that's the word you were looking for, dweeb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 03:59:16 2013 No.11237113 Anime is for dweebs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:01:16 2013 No.11237122 >>11236900 >>11236933 >>11236964 >>11237064 >>11237099 LMAO trevor getting owned even when he's not on /ghost/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:01:31 2013 No.11237124 File: 20 KB, 615x548, edb96a7ae370cde1378e433ad26253a8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:01:47 2013 No.11237126 File: 47 KB, 414x318, NEP SHITPOSTING.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237099 HAH, pWN3D

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:05:47 2013 No.11237147 >>11236900 The word you're looking for is console.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:08:46 2013 No.11237153 >>11237126 how red in the face are you nerd how does it feel to get wrecked

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:14:16 2013 No.11237176
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>>11237153

LUL

I trolled you dipshits back and forth and made you waste time searching for something completely ridiculous.

How does it feel to get wrecked?

hahahaha, I should be asking you that, loser!

Go and eat my shit by the spoon and fuck off now, hahaha!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:17:01 2013 No.11237191 File: 173 KB, 910x1024, WOAH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237176 Whoa man, some crazy mojo here. That wasn't the image I posted but it came out even better for the context. Top LOL.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:17:31 2013 No.11237189 >>11237176 I knew it off the top of my head, your damage control makes me giggle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:20:02 2013 No.11237201 File: 25 KB, 490x301, damagecontrol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237176 Whatever, dork. You tried to sound smart and failed miserably.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:23:32 2013 No.11237212 File: 405 KB, 1920x1080, DOWNLOAD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237189 >>11237201 I won in the end, assholes. Get a fucking brain. The more you waste time the more I win. #REKT CITY IN YOUR ASS

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:24:02 2013 No.11237215 File: 160 KB, 568x1023, 1338970066809.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237176

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:26:16 2013 No.11237221 >>11237215 Whoa /b/ro, EPIK meme!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:28:16 2013 No.11237229 File: 58 KB, 450x571, qxnkh1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237221 Whoa /b/ro, EPIK butthurt!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:28:31 2013 No.11237230 >>11237221 you can stop your damage control now, T

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:29:16 2013 No.11237234 Holy FUCK, Trevor is getting his ass wrecked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:30:46 2013 No.11237242 File: 40 KB, 349x642, hey-guys-look-how-retarded-i-am-jokes-on-them.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237221

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:32:46 2013 No.11237246 File: 71 KB, 640x480, art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237230 >>11237234 I'm not Trevor, you fucking imbeciles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:33:01 2013 No.11237251 >>11237246 I believe you, T

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 04:35:46 2013 No.11237257 File: 45 KB, 393x591, 1331775455445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11237251 Cool, dude. My name starts with a T though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 05:19:04 2013 No.11237441 >>11237212 k trev

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 07:19:35 2013 No.11237765 >>11237052 The people who don't believe it think Madoka is the deepest piece of media ever made

>>	Ninja [G] !!TWijqrcjBKS Mon Jul 29 16:15:11 2013 No.11243798 >>11234897 You are wrong the correct board for this is /m/

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