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>"Anno understands the Japanese national attraction to characters like Rei as the product of a stunted imaginative landscape born of Japan’s defeat in the Second World War. “Japan lost the war to the Americans,” he explains, seeming interested in his own words for the first time during our interview. “Since that time, the education we received is not one that creates adults. Even for us, people in their 40s, and for the generation older than me, in their 50s and 60s, there’s no reasonable model of what an adult should be like.” The theory that Japan’s defeat stripped the country of its independence and led to the creation of a nation of permanent children, weaklings forced to live under the protection of the American Big Daddy, is widely shared by artists and intellectuals in Japan. It is also a staple of popular cartoons, many of which feature a well-meaning government that turns out to be a facade concealing sinister and more powerful forces.

Anno pauses for a moment, and gives a dark-browed stare out the window. “I don’t see any adults here in Japan,” he says, with a shrug. “The fact that you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything, is something you wouldn’t have seen 30 years ago, with people who grew up under a different system of government. They would have been far too embarrassed to open a book of cartoons or dirty pictures on a train. But that’s what we have now in Japan. We are a country of children.” -Hideaki Anno

>> No.11201820

This is happening all around the world, not just in Japan. American is full of just as many manchildren and 420blazeit faggots who will never amount to anything. People are realizing that social norms dictating what to say and act are artificial, which naturally leads to a breakdown of traditional social harmony.

>> No.11201830

>>11201820

Japan is just ahead of the curve societally.

>> No.11201825 [DELETED] 
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11201825

Anno, stop being a faggot.

>you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything
I'd say that's an incredibly adult thing, because they read what they enjoy without caring about the opinions or onlook of others. They are true to themselves.
Being embarrassed would be a childish thing in my opinion.
Anno's self depreciating views and opinions like these are the real problem. No Anno, YOU are the issue here.


> “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
― C.S. Lewis

>> No.11201829

Time for teh daily weeboo japan/general thread :D

>> No.11201833

>>11201825

You're right. But Anno himself is also a child per his description.

>> No.11201837

>>11201820
>>11201825
Pretty much these. Anno is a pseudo-intellectual who thinks he has some sort of credibility just because his fans eat up his 2deep4u cartoons.

>> No.11201843

>>11201820
>social norms
>artificial

What would be the real deal?

>> No.11201839

>>11201809
>“The fact that you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything, is something you wouldn’t have seen 30 years ago, with people who grew up under a different system of government. They would have been far too embarrassed to open a book of cartoons or dirty pictures on a train. But that’s what we have now in Japan. We are a country of children.”

lol, yeah it sure is immature to do things you enjoy without feeling embarrassed or self-conscious
having confidence and self-esteem sure is childish!

>> No.11201848

>>11201833
I guess that's the "joke."

That Anno is acting childish while simultaneously denouncing and criticizing those that appear childish to him. That he is the real "child" in this situation.

>> No.11201849

>>11201848
So instead of trying to say something meaningful, Anno is acting ironic for signalling purposes?

>> No.11201858

>>11201825
>le C.S. Lewis quote for manchildren

Anno's a bitter old man of another era. There's nothing more to it. Stop feeling hip and rebellious for watching MLP in public.

>> No.11201855

>>11201843
What do you mean by "the real deal"? Societies form social/cultural norms, and over time they deteriorate and make way for new ones. Traditional norms would have demanded a grown man be embarrassed to read manga in public, but nowadays it's not as big of a deal. As society progresses, collective meaning gives way to individual meaning, you doing what makes you happy and worrying less about conforming to the wishes of others.

>> No.11201860

>/jp/
To an American fan who boasted of having spent all his schoolbook money on anime goods...

ANNO: You're a fool. Study harder. If I could go back in time and tell my college-age self something, I would tell him to study harder, too.

>> No.11201865

>>11201849
I don't think he is intentionally being ironic and just accidentally making himself look silly.

>> No.11201866

>>11201849

>>11201848
>>11201849

anno3deep5u

>> No.11201873

>>11201855

I'm just making fun because they've always been "artificial". What would be "genuine" social norms?

>> No.11201881

>>11201843
doing what you like to do as long as it doesn't hurt others.

ideally, you'd also help people, and society would reward you with money that lets you purchase the help of others, but you can become a NEET and leech off your parents.

>> No.11201884

He kind of sounds like a guy who views Western women as ideal and denounces anyone who doesn't like them as "manchildren."

But yes, people go back to liking childish things these days because there's no joy or satisfaction in being an adult anymore. All the people who have the power are against us, and their propaganda is failing. We'd rather get our jobs over with and play video games than become responsible adults.

>> No.11201887

>>11201873
Oh, I get what you're saying. What I meant was that people are questioning the values they're taught, not that they were abiding by norms that were somehow "more valid" or whatever.

>> No.11201886

I blame their family honor more than anything. They won't tell their kids to get a job or move out.

>> No.11201887,1 [INTERNAL] 

is he wrong

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