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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:22:55 2013 No.11122073 [DELETED]

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>There is no more madder nation than Japan ...

>It's supposed to be a terribly hard language. It's not a hard language. It's as simple as baby talk, really. It's an awfully easy language in terms of languages. Some of the Malay languages are a little bit rough.

>But in katakana you have this great big character, which is a Chinese character, and then you have the little katakana stuff up at the corner of it (if I'm using the proper terms on this; it's been years since I ran into this stuff).

>Anyway, they've got the character and then they say how it's pronounced in Japanese. But do you know that two Japanese can stand together and converse with each other for a little while and then all of a sudden find out they're talking about two entirely different things, and with a great surprise find this out, and they promptly break out their pencils and pieces of paper, and they draw the Chinese character for the proper words they're using. "Oh. Oh, I understand; that's very good. Yeah, very good, yeah. I so solly. Yeah." Whee! That's a rough one.

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:22:10 2013 No.11122074
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>They identify. And you will find that they're perfectly happy to do that. It makes bad communication. And they're perfectly happy to have bad communication. They don't want anything better than that. If you went in there and tried to straighten their language out and give them new words to support these, why, they'd be upset with you as all could be.

>Now, you take katakana is, I think, if I remember rightly, some forty-seven characters — just sort of fishing this out of the hat. It's been ages since I ran into this. Anyway, some forty-seven characters, something like that. And when they write them all down they don't space anything — when they're just a stream of characters. There's no spaces that separate any of the words they represent. And boy, that sentence can read any way. It can read "The boy milked the cow" or it can read "Dogs are forbidden here" or it can read "The steamer will sail at nine." They don't care. Well, you just sort of infer from the surroundings what it's all about.

>And that nation has the highest rate of suicide, has the highest rate of thick-lens glasses and did the most suicidal trick a few years ago. It's the doggonedest country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:26:54 2013 No.11122085 You've posted this one before, Siz.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:28:09 2013 No.11122089 File: 620 KB, 738x638, 31235231.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw hubbard is right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:28:10 2013 No.11122092 sage for summer

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:29:10 2013 No.11122093

>>11122074
This is sadly true. Even archaic aramaic languages are easier to understand than modern day japanese. I have spent days wondering about the meaning of a certain word when the writer forgets to write the kanji or give proper context to the sentence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:30:39 2013 No.11122102 Why do the trolling gimps always post pictures? Is it supposed to be extra convincing when the sayer is a middle-aged man in a suit? Reading is a skill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:31:10 2013 No.11122104 >>11122102 Because the text is from L. Ron Hubbard, the "middle-aged man in a suit."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:32:10 2013 No.11122113 >>11122104 Well, why can't I see L. Ron Hubbard written anywhere in the two first posts?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:34:39 2013 No.11122119

>>11122102
well gee I dunno maybe it's because the person speaking knew multiple Asian languages, and taught some such as Chamorro. He traveled across Asia both in youth and during the Second World War, including interactions with Tibetans.

so yeah after all that he's like "japanese is dumb"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:35:39 2013 No.11122122 >>11122113 Ron has a pretty distinctive speaking/writing style. The text here must have come from a lecture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:36:39 2013 No.11122126 >>11122093 I always imagined that Japanese is contextual based, hence no plurals. so if its roots are in primitive times then you are only dealing with things in front of you and not conceptualizing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:37:09 2013 No.11122127 >>11122119 For someone who’s such an expert on Asian languages, he sure knows shit about Japanese. Is fellating Hubbard the new /pol/ thing to do or why are you making these threads?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:42:54 2013 No.11122151 >>11122102 >>11122127 Jap detected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:44:09 2013 No.11122154 >>11122127 >why are you making these threads? Because it's siztra!bar!gigs!aaeru trying to pull an EPIC KEK on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:44:39 2013 No.11122157 >>11122151 Howaito piggu go homu

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:45:24 2013 No.11122165

>>11122126
I'm not saying it is a bad language. But you MUST know what the writer is talking about in order to make sense of the rest. It's not like french, spanish or latin where you have no idea of what is being said only if the writer is being ambiguous on purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:48:25 2013 No.11122175 Why don't japs just write in romanji with spaces?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:53:10 2013 No.11122203 [DELETED]

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>>11122127
>And that nation has the highest rate of suicide, has the highest rate of thick-lens glasses and did the most suicidal trick a few years ago.

America has the highest percentage of overweight people in the world
The United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world
The US homicide rate is still among the highest in the industrialized world
The 2012 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index ranked the United States 19 out of 176 countries
More than 16% of the population lived in poverty in the United States
41% to 44% of U.S. adults are in the lowest level on the literacy scale (literacy rate of 35 or below)

Look at your own country first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:54:09 2013 No.11122209 >>11122203 Didn't mean to quote.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:54:24 2013 No.11122206 >>11122175 Have you not gotten a clue yet? Japanese is a fucking ambiguous language. it needs the damn kanji to make sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:55:09 2013 No.11122210 >>11122203 You do realize Hubbard isn't around anymore and that this was probably delivered in the 50's or 60's right? And that he did predict a continuous decline in the American standard of living and mental health?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:56:40 2013 No.11122216 >>11122210 Well, no, if I did I wouldn't have written this shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 12:58:39 2013 No.11122223 >>11122216 Yeah, well, "did the most suicidal trick a few years ago" is almost certainly a reference to Pearl Harbor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:06:24 2013 No.11122237 Oh wow, it's an old man who is confused about a thing. I better let /jp/ know about this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:07:24 2013 No.11122240 >>11122237 Except he's not confused...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:07:54 2013 No.11122241 This thread again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:11:39 2013 No.11122250 >>11122074 >And that nation has the highest rate of suicide That was never even true. The likes of Russia and other eastern European shitholes were always higher.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:14:09 2013 No.11122259 I guess that's why the first modern novels in history were written in japanese.

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