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>> No.1108681

RAN YAKUMO HAS A POSSE

>> No.1108687

I wish Ran was my wife.

>> No.1108689
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1108689

GREAT SCOTT!

>> No.1108705

>>1108689

This one is better.

>> No.1108725

>>1108657
I like this one better.

>> No.1108749

>>1108705
>>1108725
I like them both.

>> No.1108763
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1108763

I'd her math

>> No.1108795
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I am the best depiction of Ran ever created. I wish she could be my wife.

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>>1108749

>> No.1108853
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>> No.1108897
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>> No.1108911

>>1108897
Oh lawd, is dis sum science in progress?

>> No.1108927

>>1108897

"They're pinky and the brain...."

>>1108689

oh lawd, is that some :3 ?

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>> No.1109020

>>1108927
Gee Ran, what are we going to do tonight ?

The same thing as every night, Kaguya Hima, try to kill Mokou !

>> No.1109024

>>1108927
Gee Ran, what are we going to do tonight ?

The same thing as every night, Kaguya Hime, try to kill Mokou !

>> No.1109032
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1109032

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>> No.1109063
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1109063

Yakumo family, best faction in Gensokyo or BESTEST faction in Gensokyo?

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>>1109063
Sorry, but no. Pic is BESTEST faction

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>>1109063
Given one of them has a power so awesome it makes up for the vague fail of the other two in terms of power, yes.

>> No.1109083

>>1109032
DO WANT

>> No.1109104

>>1109032
Oh dear, I can't wait until we get to see Chen grow up now.

>> No.1109105

>>1109077
>vague fail of the other two
RAN IS GREAT.

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>>1109077

Kind of, though I wasn't thinking in terms of power. The MoF group is more balanced across the board with it's two gods and a descendant of the gods as their shrine maiden. The Yakumo family is basically all about Yukari with her servants acting to further strengthen her position and let her TAKE IT EASY.

Yakumo family are my favourite because of the wide range of awesome personality they have and heart attack inducing levels of moe. Each of them play off one another perfectly with Yukari scheming up strange new ways to troll Gensokyo ultimately fixing whatever minor problems been going again, Ran does all the house keeping and mothering acting as a grounding point for the family and Chen as the playful adorable Cat Girl for the two to look after and mother.

That said, they do have some stiff competition, especially from factions like the Scarlet Devil Mansion, though SDM plays up to a different feeling... the safest person there is the useless gate guard.

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>>1109077
I do believe you were making a reference to Chen

>> No.1109200

>>1109105
Yes, she is.
But what are her powers besides milfing, yiffing, and looking appealing?
What are Chen's powers besides moe, being mothered, etc?
I have asked this question before, and no one seems to give a good reason how/what Ran/Chen are capable of, but they usually place decently on TOUHOU POWAH CHARTS. Dumb vague power charts. Even Cirno's powers/theme are obvious and make sense.

>> No.1109226

>>1109200
They spin. PCB, IN, and SWR agreed don't bother them about it.

>> No.1109234
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>>1109226
But really, that's it?

>> No.1109246

>>1109200
all 3 are extra/phantasm stage bosses. I think that accounts for something.

>> No.1109247

>>1109200
Something about Ran having as much power as Yukari is she listens to her. Same thing with Chen and Ran. That's how shikigamis work. Or so I heard.

>> No.1109254

>>1109200
Ran is so amazing, she can have her own shikigami.

Other than that, I don't know.

>> No.1109270

>>1109254
even the shikigamis are shooting shikigamis

>> No.1109285

>>1109247
So Chen can be as powerful as Yukari ?

>> No.1109286

>>1109200
Well, Chen is a nekomata so she should be able to control corpses (or the dead in general?) with her tails. She doesn't seem to be interested in that.

Kitsune--do a variety of vaguely perverted Japanese things. They're messengers to the inari, they're tricksters, and they even get into romantic or sexual interests of humans when in human form. As for what probably makes them unique is their intelligence, which is said to increase with age, unlike their tails, which increase to nine and then drop to four when they attain divine status.

>> No.1109302

>>1109200
Wiki: Chen is a nekomata that uses black magical arts. Ran is a kitsune that uses black magic and shikigami rituals.

>> No.1109315
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>>1109200

They get good placing because both become stronger while their master is around. Chen is usually 'average', average being around Mystia's level seeing as most the bosses in Touhou are above average Youkai... Chen actually attacks villagers from time to time and gets fended off. However, when she's possessed by Ran as her shikigami Chen becomes much stronger (mid-stage extra level boss).

Chen is the weakest with notable weaknesses that can easily bring her down to her normal beast youkai level, water will remove her shikigami possession, catnip will distract her and she attacks in predictable beast like patterns.

Ran on the other hand starts at extra boss strength with no real weaknesses. She's probably the strongest beast youkai around before Yukari made her into her shikigami. Without Yukari she's a very strong youkai, with Yukari she becomes that bit stronger. Ran doesn't have any clear powers, much like Yuka's actual power over flowers is pretty crap... their strength comes from just being strong Youkai (Yuka much more so of course, the point is to show that you don't need hax powers to be considered strong).

So yeah, both have varying levels of strength. Ran and Yukari are the stronger characters, with Yukari being the most hax character going, Chen isn't much to brag about but when Ran is around she can give most people a run for their money.

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>>1109032

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>> No.1109420

>>1109315
So does that means Ran can punch face really hard? Shoot laser really hot? Run really fast?
I appreciate the answer, but it still feels so vague. What is black magic in Gensokyo? Marisa's witchcraft is classic black magic. Alice's dolls are almost a cross of voodoo and possession, more black magic. But you never see Ran with any fetishes/tools that would be an object of power to help make sense of her abilities. Just tails, tits, and an awesome hat and dress.

>> No.1109432

>>1109420
Ran doesn't need tools to be powerful and use her magic.

As for fetishes, she has a fetish for CHEEEEEN

>> No.1109441

>>1109315

Actually... it is admitted by Aya in one of her reports that Ibuki Suika is the strongest in Gensokyo. That is also reinforced if you count the lowest numbered good ending of each game to be the canon ending, seeing that would mean Suika is the only youkai to ever defeat Reimu.

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>>1109432
But what does her magic DO?
Besides molest Chen.

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1109473

Also some HNNNNG Ran as thanks for anons trying to answer questions.

>> No.1109480

>>1109454

But molesting Chen is the only thing worth doing.

>> No.1109498

>>1109420

Doujin artists seem to interpret Ran's fighting as mostly awesome strength and speed, mostly because translating her strength from the game with her tight danmaku bullet patterns and bitchy spell cards and applying to her official descriptions don't put her down for any obvious powers like most the other characters.

Basically, she's described as being a 'top class beast youkai powerful enough to have her own shikigami' and never go into exactly how, so by default people assume she's just a bad ass fighter. Oh yeah, and she's pretty much the youkai equivalent of a computer, she's extremely intelligent with one of her interviews with Aya having her going on about how she used math to work out some pointless crap about a river and bored Aya with it. Maybe she has math powers.

>> No.1109548

>>1109441
But I saw Suwako and Suika fight on par with eachother in a doujin, so yeah!

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>>1109441

Ignoring exactly how reliable both Aya and Akyu are for information, I accept that Suika is considered by most to be the strongest in Gensokyo. My thoughts are just that Yukari is the most 'hax'. Suika's powers are gross without a doubt, but her power over density is pretty straight forward, abusive as hell and easily one of if not the strongest going... but it doesn't have the sheer range of ridiculous crap Yukari's power has. Seriously, when you can theoretically pull fictional characters out of a book to fight for you or simply recreate any power you fancy chances are you have the most hax power around.

>> No.1109562

>>1109498
She kills things using math and Chen.

>> No.1109566

>>1109558
>Seriously, when you can theoretically pull fictional characters out of a book

She can do that?

>> No.1109580

>>1109498
She has strength and speed and intelligence because she's a kitsune. Her spell cards reflect the same thing. Except, the sign that she usually uses is shikigami or ritual, so she's also said to be a master of shikigami (binding) rituals.

>> No.1109581

>>1109566
Is there anything Yukari can't do?

>> No.1109587

>>1109566
>theoretically
I assume by messing around with the border of fantasy and reality.

>> No.1109588

>>1109581
Resurrect Al's mom.

>> No.1109589

>>1109581
Bring Yuyuko back to life

>> No.1109593

>>1109588
>>1109589

Yuyuko is Al's mom?

>> No.1109602

>>1109581

Enter the underground

>> No.1109603

>>1109588
Did you mean Alice's mom?

>> No.1109604

>>1109589
I think it was Yuyuko's and Yukari's wish that Yuyuko doesnt come back to life... That and Yuyuko's corpse is being used to keep a youkai tree from killing more people with its Omnomnom powers.

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>>1109566
Yukari can manipulate the border between reality and fiction.
She quite frequently manipulates the border between locations, and even between dimensionality (between 2d and 3d for example.)
Yukari is fucking awesome. Pic is her summoning all kinds of shit on Yuka.

>> No.1109617

>>1109566
Never demonstrated, but a potential conclusion since Yukari's powers are not bound by conceptual borders. She supposedly invaded the Lunar Capital the first time by distorting just the image of the full moon reflected in the water. Akyu's explanation of her power - whether or not she has gotten to that point yet - is quite frightening, to say the least.

>> No.1109611

>>1109566

> Yukari's power to manipulate boundaries gives her power over all sorts of things and is comparable to the powers of the gods.
> Her manipulation of boundaries even affect illusion and reality, or the fictional and the actual.

Like I said, theoretically. When it comes to loosely defined limits on powers, Yukari wins hands down. That said, just because she can manipulate boundaries doesn't mean it's easy. I remember it being described that just changing someone from being alive to dead through boundary manipulation is pretty tough because of the amount of boundaries involved. But hey, it's not like she invaded the moon by manipulating the boundary of a reflection once or anything...

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Ran has the strongest smirk in all of Gensokyo

>> No.1109626

>>1109613
in b4 komachigrin.jpg

>> No.1109664

I love how Yukari's shown using her powers in so many different ways in doujins. I wish they'd do the same with more of the vaguely-defined powers. Like EX-Keine's history hax.

>> No.1109659

>>1109603
No... can't Yukari bring Shinki back if she actually felt like it?

>> No.1109691

>>1109664
Agreed. That'd be fuckawesome.

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>>1109659
I just imagined rebellious teen Alice.
"Alice, why don't you ever go out with your friends? Go to the mall or something?"
"Mou! Shut up mom!" ... *Pets Shanghai.* "You're the only friend I need, don't listen to her."

>> No.1109760

>>1109659
I just imagined rebellious teen Alice.
"Alice, why don't you ever go out with your friends? Go to the mall or something?"
"Mou! Shut up mom!" ... *Pets Shanghai.* "You're the only friend I need, don't listen to her."

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>>1109664

Keine's power has been used a few times, but it's mostly to comedic effect. EX-mode Keine is more known for her CAVED then she is for her awesome powers.

Actually, what I'm looking for is that doujin where Mokou eats the remains of a phoenix as a explanation for where she got her fire powers from. It basically had Mokou going around, immortal but basically just a human who seeking her revenge goes to acquire the powers of a phoenix, she's told by the phoenix that she's probably one of the few people that could actually do it because normally you'd just burn and die for trying but due to Mokou's immortality she just ends up being in agony for several years before getting used to it.

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1109795

Is Ran without foxbits still Ran?

>> No.1109804

>>1109795
Of course, but then it's downgrading her to a whole shit TIER.

>> No.1109807

>>1109795
I'd love her just as much, or more without them, as long ans her hat still looks the same.

>> No.1109816

>>1109795
20% less furry

>> No.1109824

>>1109760
This is highly workable.

>>1109768
While I don't recall the title off-hand, I do remember one doujin from the perspective of the phoenix that played out in this manner. Were you citing the same story I was thinking of, or calling off the top of your head?

>> No.1109827

>>1109795
Oh God, so cute ;_;

>> No.1109833

SHINKI ISN'T DEAD YOU RETARDED FUCKS PLAY MS WITH REIMU AND CHECK HER ENDINGS

>> No.1109839

Someone needs to shop a 0% furry Chen.

>> No.1109850

>>1109833
Since when is Shinki dead...

>> No.1109856

>>1109833
Not dead, just retconned.

>> No.1109857

>>1109850
Since she never appeared again or was mentioned by Alice

>> No.1109860

>>1109833
Yeah, that's what lead to this post. >>1109659

>> No.1109865

>>1109857
Ask that to Mima-goddess.

>> No.1109880

>>1109865
MIIIIIIIIIIMAAAAAAA!!!! ;_;

>> No.1109908

Mima married Shinki and left Gensokyo

>> No.1109914

>>1109768
Haniwa - Immortal Wings
Your pic is from it.

>> No.1109917

>>1109908
lol.

>> No.1109954

>>1109908
Touhou 13.4 II: Intellectual Absurdity of Unknown
Shinki and Mima return from their honeymoon. Alice will have a little sister soon. Ninjas have kidnapped the stork delivering the baby. Are you a bad enough Puppeteer to save your little step-sister?

>> No.1109980

>>1109954
You can also play as Alice's sisters

>> No.1110168

>>1109914

funny that, thanks Anon.

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