/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why is she still so incredibly popular?

Her game came out over 10 years ago. You would think the novelty has worn off by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049064
I'm a masochist.

[Anonymous No.]

European characters are often most popular among japanese fans.

[Anonymous No.]

not everyone is a novelty seeking subhuman like you

[Anonymous No.]

- she a cute
- she a loli
- she a loli vampire
- aaaaaaaaa
poplar

[Anonymous No.]

I want her to step on me and then lick her feet.

[Anonymous No.]

hmmm idk... maybe because shes an interesting character with an interesting personality?

[Anonymous No.]

Most people only play EoSD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049117
no man the novelty the novelty!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049099
This is probably the most accurate answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049127
thank！！
It was work hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Japs think western shit is exotic, and much more interesting than some boring moon princess or some monk.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

Because for all intents and purposes, the EoSD cast is still the best one to come out, she's head of that cast, and she has incredible specs on her own. Loli vampire, nobility, and capricious, childish, and cruel.

You'd be hard-pressed not to like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049156
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049156

>and cruel

No,

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049169
Humiliating people is to relieve boredom is pretty cruel.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's because out of all the groups, the EOSD cast are the least complicated. You almost need to know nothing about the characters to write even serious stuff. There is no complicated or long backstory for any of those characters. Want to write stuff with Miko? Hope you know something about history. Want to write something with Remilia? Loli vampire who own a mansion with maids. Also has a loli sister who may or may not be crazy. All you need to know to start writing.

[Anonymous No.]

Ive been reading gensokyo.orgs whole archives. Yea, 65% are mostly SDM related. Could use more stories from other families.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049064
On /jp/ you'd think posters would be familiar with the idea of 'flipping the chessboard,' but if you're wondering why novelty hasn't worn off in over a decade when novelty is but a fleeting idea, well the obvious answer is that the attraction to Remilia is based on something with a deeper foundation than novelty.

or to put in buzzword terms: herp derp wat is pedobait

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049156
>the EoSD cast is still the best one to come out
Whether or not that's true, they've been done to death and back. There is nothing left to be done with the SDM, but people keep trying anyway.
This would be fine, except it means the newer casts don't get even a fifth of the attention they deserve. It's god damn infuriating.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049190
To be perfectly honest, none of the other Touhou characters really have backstories that are all that in-depth. Their stories are only relevant to the events of their game, unless you're going Moriya shrine route, which is just awful.

I actually detest the convergence of characters and plots in Touhou. Everything should be perfectly episodic. That's the definition of an event. It occurs, it's resolved, and it's done.

If the EoSD cast was actually used in more than the fighting games, you would get more backstory from them, but aside from IN, there's really nothing to pick up on. The fighting games get plenty of mileage out of the EoSD girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049203
>unless you're going Moriya shrine route, which is just awful
Why?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049201
You are so new that the you could be bottled and sprayed into used cars.

Save the Earth: mulch yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049203
>Everything should be this way because I want it to be
Events aren't exclusive of one another. The occurrence of multiple overlapping events is in itself an event.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049210
While Kanako is interesting, Sanae is most decidedly not.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know. I am so fucking sick of SDM.
I liked them once, years ago, but got fed up with their shit when this household or that Touhou was introduced and the only response was a dozen more SakuyaxMeiling doujins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049210
why do you care about white ren's opinion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049213
How so?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049215
So you start disliking things when other people like them too much?

Do you wear a faggy little fedora, too?

>>11049216
Because it was a fair question.

[Anonymous No.]

Frandoll is the best girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049221
i'm not asking you, white ren

>>11049215
you literally stopped liking the household because of the number of fanfiction they get. congratulations! ig uess

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049208
To save this topic the pain of going through a meta discussion of how shitty tripfags are, could you keep to the subject matter, thus avoiding ad hominem? kthx

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049225
No you dumb fuck, I stopped liking a household because I got bored of them and they hogged the doujin scene. It's not that they got a bunch of fan content, it's that everyone else didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049221
>>11049225
No you dumb fuck, I stopped liking a household because I got bored of them and they hogged the doujin scene. It's not that they got a bunch of fan content, it's that everyone else didn't.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049234
>kthx

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049221
>"I want things to be episodic, i.e. one-and-done events where the characters and plotlines don't become relevant after the game they're featured in"
>two posts later, attacks an anon who complains about how SDM characters and plots keep popping up in doujin material

[Anonymous No.]

ha ha! this is some shit!

[Anonymous No.]

>tripscum flinging shit at each other
Hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049230
still doesn't proves otherwise to my point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049212
The fact that things are too episodic and disconnected is what ruins plot movement in almost every Touhou manga. Instead of some plotline to follow you just get auto-conclusive episodes that are mostly irrelevant to anything ever again. There is literally nothing to get you interested in the next chapters. What exciting things might happen in the next chapter of FS? Who cares, it won't matter anyway. Just enjoy the new art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049248
And what point was that?

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna be the hobgoblin that is working in the SDM as Remilia's footrest

Lucky little fucker has front row seats for loli vampire panties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049064
2nd worst 2hu

[Anonymous No.]

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049241
I called him a hipster for disliking things after they became popular with everyone. That's a point completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but relevant to him being a terrible non-person.

Also, you are mixing fanon and canon. SDM is only really present in the fighting games, and not so much after the first one. Hang yourself high.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049253
Yeah and even the stuff that does run between the games like character relationships isn't guaranteed to be relevant anytime soon. Like in Eirin's IN profile it's stated that she's surprised to see Sakuya and that only she knows why, and Zun gave a super cryptic, foreshadowy reply when he was asked about this. So apparently their connection is important, but who knows if it'll ever be relevant because of how episodic things are.

[Anonymous No.]

*farts*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049266
it's funny that you not only assumed that he disliked things because they became popular when other self-evident reasons were available. not only that, but said anon already posted reiterating that he didn't dislike them just because they became popular but because they overshadow the other casts.

so not only did you make an ass out of yourself by making an incorrect assumption, but when he corrected your assumption, you ignored it and kept going with your shitty theory.
no wonder everyone hates you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049266
PCB, IN, PoFV, SA, DDC.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049266
But that's not the argument he was making.
First ad hominem and now straw man arguments. Do you have a big reference book on your desk on how to shitpost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049255
I have bigger aspirations. I'm gonna be her meido.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049277
The adventures of Sakuya and tag-along characters are not the same as including story elements from SDM. I would not say that Suika has been especially plot relevant, just because she shows up as a support character. At least IN has a play off in conversations between Sakuya and Remilia. None of the games in question have seen SDM being either behind the event or relevant to it.

>>11049281
They overshadow the lesser houses because they are popular.
People make more stuff about them, instead of the others, because they are popular (as a side effect of being good, opinions).
By definition, he hates them because they're popular, since their popularity leads them to overshadow the others.

He still can't defend the fact that he doesn't like something now because others changed his opinion of it. He let other people dictate his enjoyment in something. On the Internet.

If the infinite summerfriends hate me, I am perfectly okay with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049268
so moe

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049311
Red lips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049307
misty lake is always relevant

[Anonymous No.]

What should happen is to drop Gensokyo and leave the SDM.

Do a Beautiful Dreamer type thing with Flandre as Lum.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess I am mostly bored of them, but at the same time I don't have anything against the SDM. Characters like Remilia and Sakuya I still genuinely love, they're pretty interesting, even if they don't really cater to my specific tastes.

I think the reason EoSD are still so popular are several.

>they're easy to understand, no complicated hierarchy or backstory
>they have been in many installments, more than anyone else
>feature many popular tropes (vampires, maids, chinese girl)

As for the case with gensokyo.org mentioned in >>11049200 I think it's not only due the fact that SDM/EoSD books are the only ones MADE, but more that they are the ones that get scanned and translated at a higher rate than others, which causes them to become even more over-represented.

I think the Japanese fandom has actually done a much better job at moving on from the older games and characters. Maybe that's the impression I get because there are so many more people doing fanworks, but there's still a much wider selection of doujinshi, for example, being sold at online shops than what shows up translated in our community.

It's hard to find EoSd books these days that are actually interesting though. Or at least I think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049203
> I actually detest the convergence of characters and plots in Touhou
You gay or something? This is what makes the Touhou plot interesting. Also non-converging characters means no huge festivals with all sorts of youkai and humans and shit.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049335
Convergence as an over-arching reason. Touhou isn't about intricate plots. It's about girls having fun.

There is a distinct lack of girls simply having fun, lately, but that is just one opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049329
Most interesting things have simply already been done with them. I certainly don't want to read another grimdark retelling of EOSD or some try-hard attempt at making a sad story by killing Sakuya of old age again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049307
No, I hate them because they overshadow others. They could be the least popular cast and overshadow everyone else just because doujin circles like them and I'd still hate them.

>He still can't defend the fact that he doesn't like something now because others changed his opinion of it. He let other people dictate his enjoyment in something.
How can you breath with your head so far up your ass? Those other people are the ones making the fan content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049335
>Touhou plot
>interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049344
It's about life in Gensokyo. Just like life on earth, it doesn't has an over-arching reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049344
both Moriya, and Myouren Family has been mostly fun stories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049340
I actually wouldn't mind some more general stories as long as they were well-written, but that just seems too hard to find most of the time. It's either too perverted or the humor is just too low-level in case of a humor story.

For example, "So Tonight, I Will Overlook It", was great, I would love to read more like it. Or more by that circle. Incidentally this is their only EoSd work as far as I know. Also the only one of their works to ever get translated.

I also have yet to read a Sakuya and Remilia backstory that I found satisfying.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049352
All fiction involving the Earth has over-arching, convoluted reasons for everything these days. You can't fart without Mossad, capitalist-backed jihadis, or some secret organization being behind it. Fantasy is the worst.

Touhou is just girls being girls. If the reason for the event isn't silly, over the top, or easily laughed at, then there's no reason for it to occur.

[Anonymous No.]

No one played this 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049370
That was kinda of my point. You shouldn't treat Touhou like the typical fiction nowadays. Things just happens naturally, there is no major force conspiring for the events to happen like you said.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049344
MarisaA in DDC is about her going pyromaniac with her hakkero. That counts as cute girls doing cute things to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049400
Also stuff like Eirin killing emissaries from the moon. Just typical slice of life. Kinda like K-on.

[Crime No.]

>>11049311
>That image
Still waiting for Remilia - Kagerou Van hellsing parody

[Anonymous No.]

She is fun to draw.

[Anonymous No.]

-various interesting characters that are commonly liked in Japan like maid, vampires, witch, chinese gate guard, etc
-less backstory and probably still the least established personality on characters means you can flesh out more things
-they have been popular for a long time and somehow became iconic, anyone who just got introduced to 2hu will most likely introduced to those characters first or they know through those characters no matter when because they're anywhere until now.

The reason why UFO and TD are the least popular because they're just bunch of monks and hermits, too much confusing backstory and established personality especially since SoPM and probably unappealing design and boring concept. There are hardly any pairings or different interpretation on those characters because they're not "shallow" and "mysterious" enough.

Also Japs like western shit so the games after EoSD which are all based on Japanese folklore are still inferior to EoSD, even though they're still considered popular.

and for some same shit in doujins are probably made by those who just newly introduced to 2hu, which might keep increasing every year.

[Anonymous No.]

EoSD has the most "classic" character designs, arguably some of the best/most catchy music and you have to admit western gothic fantasy is more easily understood than Japanese/Chinese mythology even in Japan.

I personally like the whole UFO setting more but it kinda suffers from lackluster canon character description. Some of the boss dialog felt like "huh?" compared to EoSD.

I think Zun put much of his experience and thoughts from the PC98 games into EoSD while the latter works are more creative/personal in design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049490
>I think Zun put much of his experience and thoughts from the PC98 games into EoSD while the latter works are more creative/personal in design.
This is a very astute observation. When I finally played the PC98 games, the entire time I was just thinking, "EoSD used this."

[Anonymous No.]

>They could be the least popular cast and overshadow everyone else just because doujin circles
what

[Anonymous No.]

Uu~♪
Uu~♪

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049515
fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049515
He is saying that he doesn't mind their popularity beyond the fact that their popularity means that doujin circles focus more on them. In this sentence, he is conducting a thought experiment involving a hypothetical situation in which the SDM cast is the least popular Touhou cast, yet still focused on by doujin circles, showing how he does not necessarily dislike their popularity, but rather their domination of doujin works.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049469
This one might be obvious too, but the SDM is the largest group of Touhous who live together in the series, and in the highest density. Moriya Shrine only has three residents and two of them don't really talk to each other but rather to the third. Underground is huge and so the youkai there are spread apart. etc.

[Anonymous No.]

So I went on pixiv just now and searched for 東方 works. As you know, pixiv list "related tags" for each result page. These were among the related tags:
1st page: レミリア
2nd page: パチュリー・ノーレッジ
3rd page: フランドール・スカーレット

So, yeah, they're not becoming less popular any time now.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049560
Remilia alone has an enormous following on pixiv. I can refresh the レミリア tag every few minutes or so during peak time, and find a new image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049584
I'm not confident enough in my skills yet to be one of those that draws Remilia every day, but until then I will masturbate to her every day. :)

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049615
Offer your body and soul (and semen) to a true goddess.

[Anonymous No.]

She's quite lovely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049350
>>11049344
Uh, yes, I know Touhou is not about intrincate plots, but what the fuck is the problem of girls meeting girls? This is just like normal life, where you meet someone on IRC and then you meet his friends and the plot becomes "intrincate" just because they were friends for longer.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049724
>This is just like normal life, where you meet someone on IRC and then you meet his friends

/jp/, /jp/, normalfriend~ery.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did I delete all of my loli

I miss my remy butt
She had a nice tush
No one's going to arrest me because of remy tush
(hopefully)

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like her. I don't hate her either. I just don't really care.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11049747
/jp/ - Apathy/General

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049747
Thanks for letting us know.

[Anonymous No.]

any crossover of Remi with Evangeline and that other loli vampire from, uh, dance in the vampire bund?

[Anonymous No.]

Beethoven is still popular after a couple hundred years, and remilia's theme is based on a Beethoven composition, so it would be pitiful if she faded into obscurity in only 10 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049064
Everyone will always remember the first.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. No.]

Because she's a whimsical and pretty, Ojou-sama-ish vampire loli.

Would serve faithfully.

[Anonymous No.]

>her game

But China is the Scarlet Devil.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11049917
That's nothing compared to Canon in D by Pachelbel siring the entirety of modern pop. It's ridiculous how much hit pop songs use the same progression in at least the chorus, if not the whole song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050013
Why are you using a tripcode? It's against the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050033
>thread has been totally /jp/-related for hours
>throw all of that out to give attention to a trip which a. is what they want and b. invites more shitty meta posts
no, Anon, you are the shitposters

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone figure out who got this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050062
Stop abusing the quoting function, /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050071
Well since he has an iphone I doubt it's anyone from here.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050071
That's so inspiring. I wish it was easier to get smaller, high-res tattos. I would love a few touhous on my shoulder, but just one big one is like, well, what if I want someone else on my shoulder for a little bit?

[Anonymous No.]

Has no one really not mentioned that she's played an important part in multiple manga now?
Then again everyone is too busy downloading futa doujinshi and making walfas ~memes~ to even read the source of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050090
do yukkuris

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050091

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050091
>Then again everyone is too busy downloading futa doujinshi

You say that like it's a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049064
Best theme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050132
literally
septette wins more polls than Reimu
(i want another spellcard poll)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050132
aRE YOU FUCKING JOSHING ME? rEMILLIA'S THEME IS ABSOLUTE DOG SHIT AND SO IS HER BOSS FIGHT. aNY, AND i MEAN ANY tOUHOU CHARACTER IS BETTER IN EVERY CATEGORY/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050125
It is when you spend everyday on websites talking about Touhou, and how much you love, yet you've never even bothered to experience it outside of soaking in fanworks. Why read any print work if you can just pull up the wiki, and act like you know though, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Get a tattoo of futa Remilia right around the crotch so that it looks like her dick is poking out and then you can even pretend your jerking her off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050157
But people do talk about the ZUN storied Touhou manga when each chapter comes out here, it takes forever for them to be translated and there's new porn posted every day though so that gets more discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050157
Don't use that as an excuse to talk shit about futa doujinshi. I hate fanon shit as much as the next non-secondary/tertiary, but futa on female is excellent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050157
They're just anime comics, d00d.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049064

Because she is stupid and her fans can relate to that.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050175
What this anon says. We have a manga thread and a STG thread up at basically all times. Why aren't you posting in them now? Are you a secondary?
(I'm using that word tongue-in-cheek. it's an awful buzzword)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050200
Please stop posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050207
what's wrong secondary? haven't 1cc'd easy modo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050200
Secondary is a literal translation of the Japanese term that is used to describe derivative works and fans of derivative works. Even ZUN uses it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050200
I do post in them from time to time, but they always end up disappearing because to many threads like this end up getting posted. If you pay close attention to those threads (which you obviously don't, what a shock someone who wants people to know their name, and don't understand the actual point of anonymous message board is only here for the meta-shit) you'd notice they're slow, and get ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050267
>you'd notice they're slow, and get ignored.

They're slow now because pretty much everything you can talk about in the Touhou main games has been done in the STG threads so there's not really anything new to bring up, the 13.5 thread gets discussion though because there's still things being learned.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050261
Thanks for the Intro to Touhou 101, Prof. You don't think the usage has been corrupted at all on /jp/? Or does Zun go around calling people fag secondaries who need to fuck themselves to death as an ad hominem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050217
Space Flower is the one who has something against the term, not me. Go whine to him.

>>11050320
>You don't think the usage has been corrupted at all on /jp/?
It's used differently. Words frequently change meaning when they change language.

>Or does Zun go around calling people fag secondaries who need to fuck themselves to death as an ad hominem?
He has expressed his dislike for people who just consume fanworks and don't play the games. However, he didn't say it in those exact words since he isn't a childish faggot who needs to resort to idiotic hyperbole to make his points, like you are.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050267
>Specifically say I'm using the term tongue-in-cheek
>Get replies that take my usage seriously
Oh you don't say? Wow it's like I didn't know all that and wasn't just calling attention to the fact that the term 'secondary' is just bastardized here as a crappy insult that ignores the fact that secondary Touhou works are over half of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

Splendidus narratio, frater
saging b/c thread subject has expired

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049917
What composition is Remi's theme based on?

[Anonymous No.]

Because Remilia is in that awkward but attractive zone where you can almost self-insert as a love interest but can't quite because you know that even though she hasn't demonstrated savagery on-camera, she can still do it according to flavor text

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050365
>Wow it's like I didn't know all that
Make it clear next time.

>secondary Touhou works are over half of /jp/.
They are. It doesn't make the term "secondary," when applied to people, any less useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050395
That's what dissuades you? Savagery?
You can't be afraid of a little death if you want to romance a youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050404
Or you can pick the non shitty youkais that are nice to humans like Ohayo-chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050404
I mean

The risk of having her actually kill you in a childish fit of rage is a pretty strong deterrent

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050399
I'm sorry then. It's true that incidents where it's misused are outliers.
>>11050395
Remilia always leaves food on her plate. I'd love for her to suck my blood. It's Sakuya you have to watch out for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050420
That's what spellcard rules are for. Only shitty secondaries from the Human Village don't danmaku youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050444
Well that's exactly what I would be if I was in Gensokyo

A shitty secondary

At least with Sakuya there's a chance I could meet her and not be killed eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050382
The last movement of Beethoven's Sonata No.8 I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050460
Classical music is for old fat people and 13 year olds who wear fedoras, there is no reason to listen to that outdated tripe in the year 2013.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050462
Don't forget about people whose parents made them play the piano for twelve years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050462
You're wrong. Classical music is the most unpretentious music there is. It's so universally known that every child, every moviegoer, every television-watcher has been exposed to it constantly for their entire life. It's the most beautiful music that is appreciable by even the most unintelligent, which is why it is used in raising children and in therapy. There is no music less fedora pseudo-intellectual than (pre-modern) classical music.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050462
>outdated
>Implying that musical theory has somehow transcended classical styles
Would I be right in guessing you don't know enough about music theory to tell what influences your favorite composers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050495
Please stop using the /v/ implying meme, newtrip.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like some more cute Remi pics please.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050507
Far from new--not that it's relevant--but thanks for calling that out. I stopped going to /v/ literally the day /vg/ became a thing, but by then I wasn't leaving unscathed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050507
>implying implying is a /v/ meme
>implying it even started on /v/

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get why Remilia's theme is so popular. It starts sounding boring very soon and compared to other Touhou themes, not just final boss ones, it seems to be plain and lacking in any powerful elements that would make it that great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050543
You should stay in /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050543
Please stop posting for another three months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050545
It's dreamy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050195
Sauce of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050545
You just have no respect for Beethoven.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050545
it fits her character perfectly

[Anonymous No.]

Because the game has the best cast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050590
Fuck off secondary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050590
Try reading the thread before responding. kthxbai

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050556
Koumajou Densetsu, aka touhouvania. Artist is Banpai Akira.
Yes, you do want to play it.
>>11050550
>>11050557
You should stop calling attention to trips. It's shitty meta discussion and you could just filter me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050545
I wouldn't say it's completely lacking, but later final boss themes overshadow it some.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050600
You should stop using a trip. Unless you are providing self-made original content like artwork, translations, etc... there is no reason at use one other than attention-whoring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049527
The largest is Myourenji, especially after Koishi and Kororo joined the buddhist.

Honestly Myourenji is the most developed group so far, make me feel sorry for the Taoist

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050600
There is nothing wrong with using a tripcode when the user isn't being a faggot. You are being a faggot. Hiding behind your trip to deflect criticism is pathetic.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050597
What's wrong with him making an on-topic post? The alternative if he wants to talk about the OP subject is making a new thread, and that's pretty stupid when this one is still on the front page no matter how much we sage.
>>11050610
Correction: You can't think of a different reason. If I was attention whoring you'd just be feeding my ego by calling me out on it. Are you one of those people that goes into threads just to respond seriously to trolls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050627
You are attention whoring and a shitty poster. You seem to believe that you are not an attention whore and a shitty poster. We aim to disabuse you of that illusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050553
>>11050572
I don't think that's anything new for a Touhou theme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050627
Just stop using a tripcode, faggot. You're derailng my thread, please stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049187
She's a light sadist. Doesn't make her cruel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050462
Fuck you, you stupid faggot. Classical music is a great form of music and you're just mad nigger music will die off and be regarded by historians as garbage from lesser races.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050619
>Hiding behind my trip.
That's a new one. There's a reason anonymity is synonymous with hidden identity.
>>11050634
I'm the only one who knew or cared to give a guy sauce on a fangame screencap. I'm certainly not making the thread about tripfags and then insulting a user who comes in looking to make an on-topic post.
What do you guys get out of shitty, hostile posting like that?

[None !q/Qan/CUTE No.]

>>11050672
Why are you responding to people complaining about you? Are you stupid, or just sickly bored?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050662
Nigger music has been around longer than classical compositions, look at African drum circles. It's always cute when /pol/ posts on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050672
>That's a new one. There's a reason anonymity is synonymous with hidden identity.
You are using it to deflect criticism of your behavior.

>I'm the only one who knew or cared to give a guy sauce on a fangame screencap.
I can assure you that several other people knew the source and were not interested in sharing it.

>I'm certainly not making the thread about tripfags and then insulting a user who comes in looking to make an on-topic post.
It's not about "tripfags," it's about a single tripfag and shitty poster, that is, you.

>What do you guys get out of shitty, hostile posting like that?
It comes with having standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050648
How to beat a troll: stop feeding it.
are we like, back in '06 or something? are you guys vegetables? this is textbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050688
That does mot count because every other race has made percussion music. Classical music howevrr is uniquely the invention of the white man, you nig. I dom't go on /pol/, either, too much conspiracy and jew hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050688
He means rap music, not actual Nigerian music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050707
>That does mot count because it disproves my original statement

Cute, /pol/-sama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050702
The thing is, if you ignore a troll, it'll eventually go away. Space Flower is not a troll, just a shitty person, and is not going away. I've seen him shitting up one or two other threads today where his shit was ignored. And he's still here.

First time posting in this thread, by the way. I think this is important to point out that it's just not two or three people calling out this guy on his shitty behaviour.

[None !q/Qan/CUTE No.]

>>11050709
Nigger is not short for Nigerian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050716
He knows that, you stupid fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050717
I'm sure you do!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050712
What does it disprove if no one cares about nigger drum beats compared to great white classical music?

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050694
>deflected
someone pointed out that I was using >implying and I apologized.
The only time I've brought my trip up is when someone else pointed it out. That's not deflecting to a trip. That's a refractive index of one.
>sauce
Yeah, that's why I said 'knew or cared,' meaning one or the other, not just the former.

See here's the thing. You're a shitposter, but you're anonymous so you get away with it because you can post somewhere else with zero reputation for idiocy. Isn't that more hiding than using a trip?
>>11050680
I ignore 9/10 times but since thread was derailing anyway I figured it wouldn't hurt to throw sage on and argue away. I'm a hypocrite for telling them not to respond to me then, aren't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050716
Looks like a nigger then it is a nigger

[None !q/Qan/CUTE No.]

>>11050731
I don't give a shit if it's hypocritical, you're being a fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050713
The inline extension features name-field filtering, there's no excuse for not using it anymore. If a trip is shitposting, it's in your best interest that they keep their tripcode on. If they take it off and shitpost, wouldn't that ruin your experience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050731
>The only time I've brought my trip up is when someone else pointed it out.
People tell you to stop posting, and you said, "just filter me." You're full of shit.

>Yeah, that's why I said 'knew or cared,' meaning one or the other, not just the former.
Should I spell it out for you? You seem to think that you should receive brownie points for being helpful. Nobody actually credits you for it.

>You're a shitposter.
Calling out another shitty poster on his shitty posting is not "being a shitposter." A shitpost is a post that was intentionally engineered to be shitty. You are not one, either. I get the impression that your awful posts are 100% unintentionally awful.

>you're anonymous so you get away with it because you can post somewhere else with zero reputation for idiocy. Isn't that more hiding than using a trip?
I am not flaming you for anything you have done in another thread. Should you wish to take me to task for anything I have said in this thread, I will respond. You, on the other hand, are simply ignoring criticism because "I have a trip so I don't have to respond, you should just filter me instead."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050600
My god, thamks dear anon

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050750
Agreed. I already know from experience that there's no way to not look like a shitposter if you respond to someone who calls out your trip. Shouldn't have done it. But it's too late and it's not nearly the end of the world for anyone involved here regardless of what any of us do in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050731

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050774
>But it's too late and it's not nearly the end of the world for anyone involved here regardless of what any of us do in this thread.
It's certainly not too late. You can always stop posting here and go back to whatever shitty forum you were using before. It's never too late to change your ways.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050770
I've already responded to all available arguments as to why I should take off my trip.
>you're derailing
I didn't start the shitty meta.
>attention whore
I didn't call attention to my trip.
>shitty poster
How do I seem like an incorrigible shitposter? I've twice in this thread been called out on mistakes and apologized for them. I'm not looking for credit for saucing a person. I was just pointing out that while people were derailing this thread, I still attempted to keep it on-topic. It's pretty retarded to claim that I'm the reason this thread is shit now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049234
If you really wanted to do this, you would have dropped your trip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050817
>I've already responded to all available arguments as to why I should take off my trip.
You should stop posting because you are a terrible poster, or at the very least lurk a lot more. I actually don't care whether you take off your trip.

>I didn't call attention to my trip.
You may as well claim that going out naked does not call attention to your nakedness.

>How do I seem like an incorrigible shitposter?
If we really thought you were an incorrigible shitposter we would leave you alone like the other people currently shitting up the front page. We think you are an unintentionally awful poster. Admittedly you do ignore almost all the criticism directed your way, which is a common hallmark of incorrigible shitposters.

>It's pretty retarded to claim that I'm the reason this thread is shit now.
You're at least half of it.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050823
Pretty much. I've agreed with this point several times. I usually do it and this time I really just didn't care to. It's totally reasonable to say that I'm responsible for my part in this shit. However, no one else has said anything like, "oh yeah, maybe if I didn't bring up the subject of trips, we'd still be having productive discussion in this thread. shit."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050823
#told

Another triptard bites the dust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050859
Refresh my memory: who was the first person to bring up trips in this thread?

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050852
>I actually don't care whether you take off your trip.
People actually believe themselves when they say this? I can make the most braindead, foot-in-mouth post, and no one will bat an eye if I'm anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049738
thad pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050883
>I can make the most braindead, foot-in-mouth post, and no one will bat an eye if I'm anonymous.
Only because people will assume that you are intentionally shitposting and ignore you, because responding to deliberate shitposters is a waste of time. They'll just shitpost some more.

You have established yourself as someone who is not just ironically trolling and shitposting all day and therefore people feel that replying to you will accomplish something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050143
It's okay to use continues. Normal mode can be tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050883
If you try and stand out, don't complain when people criticize you more often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050883
You could also keep your trip, but never post at all.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050868
Except there are several hours' worth of on-topic discussion after I made that point, because I made a valid point and Ren stopped making purely pejorative posts.
>>11050897
No, what I meant was that I can be intentionally stupid while anonymous and people will reply to me normally as if my point is serious instead of just assuming I'm shitposting and calling me out on it. With a trip on, people will attack me personally much more regardless of what I say.
Actually if not for this meta discussion I would've been asleep an hour ago.

[Space Flower !JLY7OHoMIg No.]

>>11050944
>Thinks I'm complaining
I'm just stating what I've observed to defend a point I made that was attacked. It doesn't impede my experience here at all to get shit. If I didn't like it I could leave. I'm actually interested in this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050961
>because I made a valid point and Ren stopped making purely pejorative posts.
He probably just assumed you were a shitposter and stopped. In any case, you continued to bring up trips time and time again even though people told you to fuck off for other reasons.

Even single time you are criticized for making shitty posts, you respond, "stop harassing me over my trip." You never even stop to consider that your posts might actually be shitty.

>No, what I meant was that I can be intentionally stupid while anonymous and people will reply to me normally as if my point is serious instead of just assuming I'm shitposting and calling me out on it. With a trip on, people will attack me personally much more regardless of what I say.
I assure you that your posts without a trip were almost certainly just as shitty. Putting a trip on just makes people want to call you out on it because they're able to observe your pattern of idiocy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049490
>western gothic fantasy is more easily understood than Japanese/Chinese mythology even in Japan

It's not. It's just that every japanese otaku wants to fuck a hot white loli and/or a sexual as all hell french maid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051060
the next three times trips are brought up are these:
>>11049247
>>11050033
>>11050062
I'm the /a/ guy from >>11050062, if you're wondering why I care.
isn't the janitor awake ?

[Anonymous No.]

this is now a touhou thread

[Anonymous No.]

Yuuka is really popular in Japan. youkai moe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051125
that's the series with McRoll Girl and Honk-Honk Catgirl, right?

[Anonymous No.]

back when Black Ops 1 first came out I found a lobby of japanese players and they all had the best playercards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051142
>>11051132
>>11051129
>>11051125
your dumb shitty thread is dead , deal with it, shitbrick

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051156

OH SNAP

#rekt #kardashian

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051105
Did you know that criticizing people is not always shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

Not this shit again.

Every board should be forced anon. Anyone who doesn't like it can fuck off to Gaia.

Fucking hell... it's 2005 all over again. When will transmootpack get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051168
I don't really care about the why or how. Can't it just like, not happen? Can we band together as jobless, sad fucks? Make /jp/ the one fun place to spend our time on?

[tripfaggan !yTEHLuLZTE No.]

Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: mangaka who made doujins of their own works
i wish i could get a parrot blowjob

[Anonymous No.]

Hi guys I'm doing a let's plays
should i continue y/y

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051283
y

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051156
halp me wat do

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051287
Holy shit it's Remilia! huh, Why is she still so incredibly popular?

Her game came out over 10 years ago. You would think the novelty has worn off by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051289
here's the next text box
hit alt+f4? n/n

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051291
y

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051291
y

[Anonymous No.]

sup /jp/ wud u do me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051295
>>11051297
done

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051298
feel embarrassed for

[tripfaggan !yTEHLuLZTE No.]

how's my toeho

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051300
my friend will suck your cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051299

>dawn

your development level:     pleb    

[(ﾟ∀ﾟ)SEMPAI'S PLEASUROUS NUTRIENTS(ﾟ∀ﾟ) !6ZKTWRmVqI No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051308
>>>/v/

[(ﾟ∀ﾟ)SEMPAI'S PLEASUROUS NUTRIENTS(ﾟ∀ﾟ) !6ZKTWRmVqI No.]

>>11051334
i just fall of my ch
air kuz i couldnt an
d i CANT stop laugh

[(ﾟ∀ﾟ)SEMPAI'S PLEASUROUS NUTRIENTS(ﾟ∀ﾟ) !6ZKTWRmVqI No.]

Good morning /jp/! how did you sleep

[White Ren !j.DCZ0jsbY No.]

I'll suck your cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049329
>I think the Japanese fandom has actually done a much better job at moving on from the older games and characters.

See that chart? This was a year ago. Characters sorted by the number of works dedicated specifically to them on Reitaisai 9. See that top 10? Reimu, REMILIA, Marisa, Alice, FLAN, Youmu, MEILING, CIRNO, SAKUYA, PATCHOULI. So much moving on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051368
At least they aren't drawing Tifa pictures anymore, like 90% of the western crowd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049205

I agree whole heartedly with that. EOSD cast is my favourite, but perhaps that's because they get all the attention. ZUN should focus on the newer characters. He can always revisit the EOSD cast future, he's still got around 50 years of Touhou left given how Japs refuse to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11049584

Its probably because she's European and not a Jap. The Japs have some funny ideas about Westerners and romance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11050200

There's nothing wrong with the word itself, its how the west has mutated it into a derogatory term. Its meant to be used to refer to the content like doujins manga, remixes ect, not the person who makes them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051368

EoSD had the best cast. It's the game that made Touhou popular.

Recent games have mediocre casts. UFO was a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.]

Ten years in the series will do that to you, especially coupled with heaps of doujins that reinforce their popularity. It helps that ZUN just *had* to cram at least one SDM member into every single fucking game all the way to UFO, with the exception of MoF. Even in gen3 we had the cast in SSiB, SWR and Patchouli in SA.
Thankfully, ZUN kind of moved on and fleshed out the personalities of gen3 girls as of late. The Moriya Shrine girls in particular got enough attention to turn them from somewhat flat characters to some of the most fun in the series :3. And UFO/TD crews also had their chance to shine in HM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051499
Fucking nobody in the history of ever has derogatorily referred to people as secondaries just because they are members of a doujin circle. Neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051587
I did. Most of those doujinshi artists never played the games, they are worthless secondaries hopping on the popularity bandwagon. They should stick to drawing about what they actually like.

[Tom No.]

>>11049205
why don't you do something about that then instead of be upset about it.
this is a friendly remark. I'm not mean like the other person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051499
Secondary is not a translation of 二次(創作), you... you... /jp/ secondary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051599
Should he write some cool fanfics or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051584

Except for Byakuren UFO crew is boring as fuck.

And TD isn't much better.

[Anonymous No.]

The really surprising thing is Flandre's growing popularity.

She did absolutely nothing since EoSD, yet she's getting higher in polls and the amount of doujins with her is simply insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11051591
But you didn't use the term BECAUSE they were members of a doujin circle. That's just incidental. They could be, fucking, pole dancers or airline pilots or some shit and it wouldn't affect their secondary status. You just wouldn't know about them.

[Anonymous No.]

Because EoSD.

[Anonymous No.]

because she's cute, dude