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10981486 No.10981486[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What web browser do you use?

>> No.10981491

Internet Explorer

>> No.10981506

command line

>> No.10981508
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>>10981486
so what should i use instead?

furfux?

>> No.10981539

None of that is malicious. When data is nonmaliciously sent from a user to a master server, (and by extension, when this process is repeated for every other used using the service,) that's not called a botnet. Using loaded words to further whatever agenda you have - corporate Firefox/Opera/IE competitor-bashing, converting people to your genuine delusion/conspiracy, or just spreading fear and ignorance for the sake of it, won't work.

Great job, though. I'm sure this image will convince a handful of confused sixty-year-olds that they're being preyed on by the man.

>> No.10981551
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10981551

The cutest one of course!

>> No.10981554

>>10981539
google shill detected

>> No.10981564

>>10981539
Chrome isn't actually a botnet, but it is spyware.

>> No.10981565

you're sending data, right now, including your IP address, to 4chan's servers where it will be stored for no less than half a year.

welcum 2 da buttnet :^)

>> No.10981575

You know what I dislike? Recently Google has been asking for a mobile phone number to attach to my account. There is no option to ignore the number, and I have no mobile phone, so I continually get annoyed when I try to log in to my account. Also on YouTube it keeps pestering me to use my real name.

Why is Google doing this? Why can't I just have an account and not tie it to a phone number or name?

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10981583

Oy vey, that's right goyim!

There is nothing wrong with using google botnet.

>> No.10981594

>>10981583

I wish people would stop using the 'jewish conspiracy' shit to make every theory sound dumb/fanatical.

>> No.10981591

>>10981575
Because they live off making use of your personal information, they want as much as possible.

>> No.10981592

>>10981575
Just stop using their products, or at least having accounts with them. They've gotten shitty, tinfoil notwithstanding.

>> No.10981603
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10981603

I only use web browsers that will Respect My Freedoms™

>> No.10981607

>>10981539
>None of that is malicious
Says Google.
>When data is nonmaliciously sent from a user to a master server, (and by extension, when this process is repeated for every other used using the service,) that's not called a botnet.
It is depending on the purpose.
>Using loaded words to further whatever agenda you have - corporate Firefox/Opera/IE competitor-bashing, converting people to your genuine delusion/conspiracy,
>converting people to your genuine conspiracy
If it's a "genuine conspiracy" then Google is really doing this. Your grasp of of the term "conspiracy" is clearly very loose. Perhaps you believe that "conspiracy" actually means "crackpot theory of a conspiracy existing that cannot possibly be true"? Perhaps because you swallow anything an authority tells you?

Enjoy your botnet.

>> No.10981612

>>10981607

>Says Google.

Yeah. I'm sure Google is secretly selling your information to people for meager profit even though there's been zero evidence of this ever happening. Also unicorns are real because no one's ever disproven that.

>> No.10981616
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>>10981603
Hey you.

GIMP is fucking SHIT.

Get REKT freedom faggot.

I'm better off piratying Photoshop for my work.

>> No.10981622

>>10981612
You clearly don't understand security issues.

When it comes to security, you should always assume the worst, because it is better to be safe than sorry. Why not use a browser that doesn't do these things just to be safe?

What you're saying basically equates to "I have no reason not to give my private information over to this person, because it has not yet been proven that he will use them for purposes I do not approve of!"

>> No.10981625

>>10981591
Sometimes it really seems like this, or at the very least that Google has gotten to big for its own good. They should not be forcing anything like using real names and phone numbers on their users.

Because it's Google, though, nobody will mention anything. I fear for the people who use Google Fiber because who knows what kind of 'babysitting' Google will do on them. Because it's so exclusive and the amount of users is going to remain small (for the time being) I can see them actively monitoring sites users go to or something similarly shady.

>> No.10981627

>>10981491
Seriously everyone just use IE. It's good now.

>> No.10981628

>>10981622

There isn't a browser that doesn't send any information to a server, anywhere. You are genuinely insane.

>> No.10981635

Why should I care if Google sells my information to third party buttholes

I don't even know why I should care about Chrome being buttnet, since I use Firefox
Please tell me why, jaypee

>> No.10981638

>>10981625

People have used Google DNS for years and nothing has happened.

>> No.10981640

I have several free web browsers on my laptop, but I generally do not look at web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites operated for or by the GNU Project, FSF or me. I fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly.

>> No.10981644

>>10981640
How long does it take to view a webpage this way

>> No.10981647

>>10981627
I have Windows XP and can't install the newest version of IE.

>> No.10981651

>>10981627

Here's the real purpose of this thread.

>> No.10981652

>>10981607
He said the delusion was genuine, not the conspiracy.

>> No.10981653

>>10981647
If you can upgrade you should go to 7. It's a good OS.

>> No.10981657

>>10981628
There are browsers that don't:
- Send the name of the file you're downloading to a server owned by the browser's company
- Send every URL you access to a sever owned by the browser's company
- Connect every 30 minutes to a sever browser's company
-Attempt to get you to log into a proprietary account owned by the browser's company in order to associate your browsing habits with that account
-Connect to websites before you command them to

You are oversimplifying the issue by implying that sending basically everything you do on Chrome back to Google is the same as, for example, sending data to 4chan whenever you access the site.

>> No.10981660

>>10981652
No he didn't. And if he meant to say that then he shouldn't have used the slash.

>> No.10981665

>>10981657

>You are oversimplifying the issue by implying that sending -basically everything you do on Chrome- back to Google is the same as, for example, sending data to 4chan whenever you access the site

Ignoring this blatantly wrong assertion, it's exactly the same

>> No.10981670

>>10981603
>>10981616
what's /jp/'s obsession with this fat ugly faggot

>> No.10981674

No one in this thread has told me why I should care about GOOGLE BUTTNET

please respond

>> No.10981675

>>10981660
genuine delusion OR conspiracy.

If you're any good at math it'd be like (genuine*delusion) + conspiracy

>> No.10981679

>>10981670
it's /g/'s obsession, not /jp/'s

newfaglet

>> No.10981686

>>10981551
Do people actually use Opera or is this a joke? It always seemed so bad to me.

>> No.10981694

Nightly 16

I don't want to upgrade or download an extension to get a file MEGA, fuck your shitty site.

>> No.10981698
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10981698

People who care a lot about their privacy usually look at kiddy porn

fact

>> No.10981703

>>10981686
People used to use Opera, before it became a Chromium skin.

>> No.10981710

>>10981694
>Nightly 16
Why?

>> No.10981720
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10981720

>tfw gmail account

what should I do /jp/? besides kill myself
which mail provider is safe?

>> No.10981715

>>10981665
It is not blatantly wrong because it's what Chrome actually does, and what Google then does with the information is something you have to trust Google on.

Not using Chrome means cutting out an unneeded party's access to your information, which is good. You don't send any of this information to Mozilla when using Firefox.

>>10981675
"Converting people to your genuine conspiracy" still doesn't make sense. Unless he's a Google and he's inviting people to conspire with him. It's as if he's treating the word "conspiracy" as a school of conspiracy theory.

>> No.10981728

>>10981720
Why do you need an email account?

>> No.10981729

firefox 21 x86 linux

>> No.10981735

>>10981715
you retard, genuine delusion OR conspiracy. OR.

>> No.10981737

>>10981710
Because that's the version that was out when I got this computer and I haven't had a problem to want to upgrade yet.

>> No.10981739

>>10981720

You're own. They all suck and you're fucked no matter what unless you use your own.

>> No.10981749

>>10981612
>hurr durr gewgel wont indulge web access informatun with otur peapel without lettiing you knwo
>google's bread and butter is STILL their ads services
You couldn't sound more retarded if you tried.
>>10981703
oh, you mean back when it was an IE skin?

>> No.10981741

>>10981735
"Converting people to your conspiracy" doesn't make sense either.

>> No.10981746

>>10981737

You should upgrade. Your browser is probably what you use most.

It takes two seconds, you even keep ALL your settings and addons. Holy shit you're crazy dude.

>> No.10981752

>>10981746
Why do I need to upgrade though? Was it made better or something?

I mean I haven't had a problem with 16 at all in a year.

>> No.10981755

>>10981720
Switch to hushmail, or lavabit.

>> No.10981750

>>10981715
"Converting people to your genuine delusion"
"Converting people to your conspiracy"

That's what a slash does, you fucking idiot.
I'm sorry for using harsh language, but you seem totally incapable of understanding.

>> No.10981751

>>10981715
But you're assuming that I particularly care if people gain access to my information.

The convenience that using Google products (mind you, I only have a g-mail account and an Android phone) provides me more than outweighs the minimal risks that using them poses to the few bits of information that they cull from my activities.

>> No.10981761

but why should i care about my privacy
actually really

>> No.10981767

This is a Tokiko thread. Just warning you all.

>> No.10981769

>>10981761
/g/ doesn't want their CP ring busted by the feds

>> No.10981775

>>10981737
Why would you choose Nightly over stable Firefox if you didn't plan on updating your browser regularly? The only point to using Nightly is to have the latest features.

You should use Firefox ESR.
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html

>> No.10981777

>>10981755
>hushmail, or lavabit.
lel

>> No.10981778

>>10981752

Yes, it was made better.

>> No.10981785

>>>/g/

Not /jp/ related.

>> No.10981789

>>10981778
How? What's been upgraded?

I barely go on other sites so I don't need anything crazy like 3d views or Facebook add ons

>> No.10981791

>>10981750
See >>10981741
That makes it sound like he's a conspirator and inviting people to conspire with him.

>>10981751
So you're now saying that even though you agree Google does this, you don't care?

That's no longer an argument. People who do care that Google does this have plenty of reason to avoid using their browser.

>> No.10981794

>>10981749
>oh, you mean back when it was an IE skin?
Opera never used the Trident engine. What are you talking about?

>> No.10981800

>>10981767
Sorry, but I am not Tokiko.

>> No.10981805

"secure" browser/email options are like organic food. There's no difference. The placebo effect is huge.

Lavabit gives out so much shit. More than gmail.

>> No.10981808

>>10981777
What?

>> No.10981818

>>10981812

B-BUT MUH EXHENTAI AND 4CHAN HISTORY

>> No.10981812

­>Implying the goverment gives two shits about shitty the information of some nerds/retards/autists

You guys are seriously deluded.

>> No.10981821

>>10981812
Who are you blacktexting?

>> No.10981824

>>10981805

wait seriously?

>> No.10981825

>>10981805
It isn't a placebo. It's easy to test a browser to see what information it sends and where. A browser that simply doesn't do these things isn't necessarily "secure" in many senses, but at least it cuts out one of the problems.

Email is another issue entirely.

>> No.10981827

>>10981791
>People who do care that Google does this have plenty of reason to avoid using their browser.
The vast majority of people don't care.

>Send every URL you access to a server owned by the browser's company.
You have to turn that on.

>> No.10981829

ｇｏｏｇｌｅ　ｅｍｐｌｏｙｅｅｓ　ｐｌｓ　ｇｏ

>> No.10981832

>>10981825
>one of the problems

what problems, seriously

>> No.10981834

>>10981824

Gmail forwards your mail from its servers to hide all your info. Lavabit gives out your IP address and all other header data.

>> No.10981837

>>10981791
>People who do care that Google does this

So, basically the 1% of the internet?

>> No.10981845

Opera 11.64. Never going to upgrade, it all started really going downhill with 12 and Webkit/Blink Opera looks awful. I wonder how well it handles 70+ tabs on bad computers.

>>10981686
It's actually pretty decent if you give it a chance. Of course you'll have to have a secondary browser installed for the times when pages don't act properly/aren't supported whatsoever, kind of like Mega and Outlook.

>> No.10981848

>>10981827
>You have to turn that on.
Actually it's on by default and there's an option to disable it.

>> No.10981857

Is Opera Turbo really turbo?

>> No.10981866

>>10981857
>When Opera Turbo is enabled, webpages are compressed via Opera's servers so that they use much less data than the originals. This means that there is less to download, so you can see your webpages more quickly.

>> No.10981861

>>10981592
Not who you're replying to, but there aren't really any decent alternatives.

>> No.10981865

>>10981845
Why would you have 70 tabs open at once anyway?

>> No.10981867

>>10981848
>Actually it's on by default and there's an option to disable it.
I haven't touched my privacy settings and it's off.

>> No.10981868

>>10981865
He's an autist

>> No.10981871

>>10981865
Literal autism

>> No.10981876

>>10981865
Probably porn, we've all been there.

>> No.10981881

>>10981876
The most I've ever had open was maybe 25, and I only went through about 7 or 8 of them. But 70?

>> No.10981884

>>10981865
Forgetting to close them.
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S10970753#p10971091
Have a look through that thread.

>>10981871
>>10981868
Where are we currently? On what website?

>> No.10981890

>>10981865
Some people don't like closing tabs.

>> No.10981891

>>10981881
Don't you save large amounts of non-lewd images from Pixiv and whatnot? Since I mostly have a load of Pixiv/Drawr/*booru tabs open.

>> No.10981894

>>10981891
I do but I close the tab after I save them.

>> No.10981897

>>10981891
You are lewd.

>> No.10981901

>>10981891
>Don't you save large amounts of non-lewd images from Pixiv and whatnot?
Because you can't open a lot of tabs if you're saving lewd images.

>> No.10981903

>>10981894
That's great, but please keep in mind that some people are easily distracted and/or lazy.

>> No.10981904
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10981904

so should i use ie now or what?

>> No.10981908

>>10981904
Use Firefox 3.5

>> No.10981909

>>10981904
IE's fine unless you need adblock.

>> No.10981912

>>10981903
>That's great, but please keep in mind that some people are autists

ffa

>> No.10981914

>>10981908
Please don't advise people to use outdated browsers.

>> No.10981916

i use nightly with adblock plus, better privacy, flagofx, https everywhere and noscript

>> No.10981917

>>10981909
Why the fuck would you not need adblock?

>> No.10981919

>>10981917
I don't know, but for whatever reason some people don't use it.

>> No.10981921

>>10981914
I thought it was a pretty obvious bad joke considering how old 3.5 is.

>> No.10981922

>>10981917
Because you don't browse websites with obtrusive ads.

>> No.10981924

>>10981904
Once Firefox uses Australis and Opera goes full-Webkit there won't be anything decent left to use. We're just either going to have to suffer with what we have or I guess just stop going online until something better appears.

>> No.10981930

>>10981912
You're on /jp/. What are you expecting?

>>10981921
Some people still use 3.5/6 because of addon compatibility issues with the newer versions.

>> No.10981939

So was the guy earlier just trolling me about upgrading 16 to 24 or what? I remember not having the best of luck upgrading Firefox in the past like 4 I think, that shit used up so much damn memory

>> No.10981942

>>10981924
Just use Firefox 24 ESR when it comes out. Hopefully they'll either ditch Australis or something better will come along.

>> No.10981949

>>10981917
I like to see ads.

>> No.10981951

>>10981939
Again, why do you even use Nightly if you don't update your browser regularly?

>> No.10981958

>>10981953
i use chrome because it has cuter themes and the downloader isnt dumb

>> No.10981953
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10981953

My favorite Touhou is Remilia and I use Chrome because it's most modern looking and stylish browser, has best customization, loads faster than all other browsers, saves my bookmarks to my google account so I could access them anywhere.
The only downside about Chrome is it's shitty downloader(can't pause or resume interrupted downloads) so you should use Orbit downloader instead which is much better.

>> No.10981954

>>10981930
>/jp/
Thought this was /g/

>> No.10981956

>>10981951
Because the rectangle thing on the top left looks better for Nightly than Firefox.

>> No.10981960

>>10981953
lelelele guwel employee onegai lelele

>> No.10981964

>>10981953
Chrome is the worst in terms of customisation compared to Firefox (addons and UI) and Opera (UI).

>> No.10981965

Does Chrome still think it's acceptable to show Chinese versions of kanji in Japanese text, or has that been fixed?

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10981966

>using chrome

>> No.10981970

>>10981966
I wear a headband like this. Does anyone else?

>> No.10981972

SRware Iron

>> No.10981974

>>10981953
You can pause downloads.

>> No.10981977
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10981977

>>10981970
Yes

>> No.10981978

I use a browser I designed myself from the ground up.

>> No.10981989
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>> No.10981995

>>10981972
http://www.insanitybit.com/2012/06/23/srware-iron-browser-a-real-private-alternative-to-chrome-21/

>> No.10981997

>>10981978
from the ground up, as in not even using sockets or any libraries and your own framework and everything?

>> No.10982020
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>> No.10982024

>>10981997

I created my own system of compilers that take me from a binary format to an end browser.

>> No.10982025

>>10981881
This makes me sad about my usual tab count when surfing.

>> No.10982026

>>10981909
>IE's fine
Kill your fucking self.

>> No.10982035

>>10982026
IE is good now. Get over it, nerd. This isn't 2005.

>> No.10982047

>>10982026
What's wrong with IE 10?

>> No.10982050

What's up with the new 4chan X? 3.5 or something? I heard that it was really shitty

>> No.10982060

>>10982050
4chan X v3+ just adds a bunch of rice and no new useful features.

>> No.10982067

Chrome mixes up Japanese and simplified Chinese characters.

>> No.10982072

4chan X is now unnecessary due to the built in site features.

>> No.10982074

>>10982067
Who cares?

>> No.10982080

>>10982072
The inline extension doesn't have an archive redirection feature.

>> No.10982082

>>10982074
Maybe the 120 million Japanese and 1 billion Chinese for example

>> No.10982087

>>10982035
>>10982047
Bloated piece of shit.

Also, Microsoft.

>> No.10982089

>>10982082
Are you one of them?

>> No.10982100

>>10982087
epic /g/ maymays

>> No.10982105

>>10982082
They use the English one like everyone does.

>> No.10982106

>>10982089
Yes I am a Japanese girl

>> No.10982107

>>10982100
Fuck off.

>> No.10982110

firefox

not everyone is on a quest for the most niche browser and the most beautiful desktop.

>> No.10982111

>>10982107
lel so bloated xDDDD

>> No.10982124

>>10982111
It's a fact.

But I guess you are so ignorant you can't see how slow that piece of shit is.

>> No.10982131

>>10982124
#letmeinterject #nobloat #yolo

>> No.10982190

>>10981865
Procrastination. I have over 100 in sessionmanager that I should tackle but I'm here instead.

>> No.10982269

>>10982124
It's not slow.

>> No.10982321

Firefox when I need extensions,
dwb and luakit the rest of the time.

>> No.10982346

Did /g/'s browser break or something?

>> No.10982353

>>10982346
I wouldn't trust anything made by /g/, it's probably botnet shit.

>> No.10982361

>>10982346
What?

>> No.10982370
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10982370

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0

>> No.10982378

>>10982370
>Babybuntu

>> No.10982388

>>10982269
It's slower than Firefox.

Yes, it IS slow.

>> No.10982397

>>10982353
>made by /g/
So made by some blogger and recruited for / advertised on the tech board on 4chan. Yeah, no, don't bother. I'd trust /g/oons to make browser extensions and online poll voting bots since they did that for 4chan specifically, but there's little else I'd trust them for.

>> No.10982420

>>10982388
How exactly is it slower?

>> No.10982447

>>10982388
Are you thinking about Internet Explorer 8?

>> No.10982469
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10982469

Firefox.
Blocks ads and has all the addons I need to suit my e-paranoia needs.

>> No.10982502

>>10982420
Slower start up, uses more memory.

>> No.10982527

>>10982469
good god, I try browsing with ie and every time, even on trustworthy pages, I see tons of twitching gif ads and worse like flash ads. And my mom back at home lost the use of her computer for hours after just accidentally clicking a seemingly innocuous advert. Had a hijack behind it, I mean fuck it that's supposed to be illegal right? Fuck ads.

>> No.10982552

>>10982527
I really don't understand how people live without some variety of ad blocking.
Every time I see someone's computer with a billion ads all over the screen or those fucking float-in-the-middle-of-the-page flash ads or youtube ads it just pains me.

>> No.10982594

>>10982527
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/zero/

>> No.10982654

>>10982594
the one and only valid reason to tamper with your dns is if there's some private page you need to access that refers to itself by "somename.whatever.xyz" and which isn't actually linked to somename/whatever on the actual public pay-for-your-name dns network.

If you want all or even most ads blocked, without blocking other shit, you need to block specific image dimensions or url fragments.

>> No.10982698

>>10982552
Word. I've been using adblockers for so long that I forget they exist until I use someone else's computer.

The last time I saw an ad, I could not believe how ridiculously obnoxious they have gotten.

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