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So we have three western youkai so far for DDC.

What else do you think we'll have? Dark Elves? Muses? Maybe, at long last, a Dragon?

>> No.10945723

I would like to see a bean sí, púca or taibhse.

>> No.10945720

I hope we some different stuff. Like a non-kami deity, an Aesir or something. Or a golem. Or the questing beast.

>> No.10945727

More generic monster girl bullshit since ZUN seems to have gotten onto that train.

Typical Centaur, Harpy, Naga, Slime most likely. Maybe not slime since I don't think there's any non D&D basis for them.

>> No.10945730

Western dragon is probably right out. Norse elves maybe. I doubt he will head too deeply into Greek or Roman religion. Griffin, cockatrice, basilisk, pegasus and unicorn are all pretty traditional I suppose.

>> No.10945739

A penis youkai

>> No.10945741

Game difficulty modes are named after gemstones. Brace for knocker loli with a miner's hat and titanium-sapphire lasers.

>> No.10945747

>>10945741
dorf touhou incoming

>> No.10945758

>>10945689
None of the DDC are actually western, just like Mystia Lorelei isn't from Germany. Only her name is.

>> No.10945779

>>10945758

They're not literally western as in from the west, but they are creatures from western mythology.

>> No.10945798

>>10945689
>>10945779
Sekibanki is not western. Heck, she's a mix of two different Japanese youkai, even.

>> No.10945802

>>10945798

Tell me what her theme is, why don't you

>> No.10945821

There's an insane amount of weird critters in Finnish mythology, hundreds of them, but the problem is that no one would recognize them, even the Finns.

>> No.10945825

It's a horror-themed game, so what more quintessential a horror monster is there than an evil ghost?

>> No.10945828

>>10945802
I already told you that this doesn't matter. Mystia isn't really related to Loreley and the SDM library isn't called "Voile" just because of the stage's theme music.

>> No.10945831

>>10945802
Did you not even read the manual? She's a Rokurokubi. However, she also has elements of nukekubi, which I actually believe to be intentional, due to writings from a certain author.

Just because you aren't actually that familiar with many Japanese youkai doesn't mean you should automatically write them off

>> No.10945837

>>10945821
Indeed. It is very similar to eastern mythology.

>> No.10945846

>>10945828

Mystia's name is not evidence, as it's just a name. A title and a name are unrelated.
As the SDM library has no other given name, there's no reason you can say it is not named Voile.

>> No.10945864

>>10945831

And Yoshika is a jiang-shi, but she still acts like a zombie.

>> No.10945874

>>10945846
>As the SDM library has no other given name
It doesn't have any name.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to say "voilà" or something like that.

>> No.10945922

It is worth noting if you read the music notes ZUN basically admits he has no idea what a Rokurokubi is.

>> No.10945940

>>10945864
jiang-shis are kinda like zombies. in chinese you actually translate zombie into jiang-shi. fascinating?

>> No.10945974
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>>10945922
Come on, ZUN, this is like two seconds of research.

>> No.10946122

>>10945922
>>10945974
But if you do further research you may notice this is likely intentional and a joke reference.

From Wikipedia: "In a folktale collected for his book, Kwaidan by Lafcadio Hearn, the nukekubi is misidentified as Rokurokubi, an error that also appears in the Fighting Fantasy book, Sword of the Samurai, and in Stephen Dedman's novel The Art of Arrow-Cutting."

Lafcadio Hearn. Aka Koizumi Yakumo. The basis behind the the Maribel=Yukari theory. ZUN's clearly read his works and indeed may be going down the list of his writings about youkai. This is quite likely a reference to Hearn explicitly noting that people often get it confused with nukekubi.

>> No.10946172

>>10946122

So Sekibaki is neither a Rokurokubi or Dullahan, but a misidentified Nukekubi?

>> No.10946179

>>10946172
Pretty much, yeah.

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>>10945689

>> No.10946270

>>10945922
>>10946122
>>10946172
Goddamnit, Zun, you're too cool.

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>>10946252
Kohaku is already better than a Touhou, since she can cosplay as Broomstick Girl ♥ Magical Amber.

>> No.10946506

What if we got a cockatrice?

>> No.10947549

>>10945825
A vampire, a zombie or a frankenstein.

>> No.10947565

>>10947549
frankenstein is not a monster, derp

>> No.10947575

>>10947565
What is he then?

>> No.10947584

>>10947575

A doctor.

>> No.10947595

>>10947584
Mad scientists are also monsters.

>> No.10947647
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>>10947595
You said a frankenstein. You could be referring to his cousin Elizabeth

>> No.10947666

>>10945689
>sekibanki
not dullahan
>wakasagihime
Moefied ningyo which just happen to look like mermaid in kimono
>imaizumi
Japanese wolf but for this, I can confirm she's based on werewolf. I'm surprised ZUN didn't go with werecats (especially tiger) which are more Asian.

>> No.10947667

A mummy.

Nah.... right?


>>10946172
Or a wireless Rokurokubi, lol.

>> No.10947751

Hey, hey, what if they're supposed to fit the archetypes of both a western and eastern monster at the same time? Maybe ZUN purposefully selected youkai that had well-known equivalents in western mythology?

A double dealing character?

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>>10947751

>> No.10947828

>>10947751
>>10947785
Took you long enough dudes

>> No.10947835

>>10947751
I hope ZUN adapts this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_maiden

>> No.10948025

>>10947835
The celestials of Gensokyo already have the swan maiden gimmick, in theory they have to marry a normal human if it has their shawl. Altough most of them don't apparently obey that.

>> No.10948118

>>10947751
So he is making a woman youkai?

>> No.10948176

>>10947666
if you eat ningyos you become immortal, I wonder if Marisa took a bite after she cooked her.

Speaking of, what's with the bosses appearing out of evil looking smoke and then blowing up completely?

>> No.10948227

>>10948176
The running theory is that whatever's making the characters' weapons wonky is also affecting mostly placid youkai and making them belligerent.

>> No.10948313

Nuckelavee

>> No.10950670
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10950670

Spooky scary skeletons, please.

>> No.10950713

CTRL-F
"Manticore"
No results.

>> No.10950811

>three western youkai so far for DDC.

And they are? What is their background and how are they related to the west?

>> No.10951310

>>10950811
Mermaid, Dullahan, Werewolf.

>> No.10951326

>>10947751
An ogre then? (oni).

>> No.10951345

>>10951310
*Mermaid, Rokurokubi, Werewolf.

>But it doesn't look lik-
Look at the danmaku the head makes.

>> No.10951356

>>10951345
I think you are missing the point anon.

>> No.10951363

Oh shit shit shit! Please, Gryla from Iceland as an extra boss! I heard she can appear as a fox with 15 tails as well.

>> No.10951375

>>10951363
It will be a loli Yeti.

>> No.10951402

>>10951363
I just looked up Gryla, "The Grýla legend has been frightening to the people of Iceland for centuries - her name is even mentioned in Snorri Sturluson's thirteenth century Edda. People of Iceland successfully used her story to scare children to sleep. It was put into halt when a public degree was passed in 1746 prohibiting this practice to avoid traumatizing kids further." that's hilarious.

>> No.10951426

Out of curiosity, does thegame say WHICH bamboo forest they are in? Bamboo forest + full moon remind me of Mokou way too much, and I wouldn't be surprised if she was in the full game.

>> No.10951442

>>10951426
In that bamboo forest, since that place is specially blessed by the power of the full moon a lot of moon related beings like living in there.

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>>10945741
>>10945747

I couldn't resist

>> No.10951554

>>10951537
Youkai moe~

>> No.10951565

>>10945741
And yet, Ten Desires Lunatic was called Prayer for IT Data Security. Where's my true administrator?

>> No.10951625

>>10951537
You just need to shape stuff a bit more like sausages and you'll be imitating ZUN perfectly, holy shit

>> No.10952577

>>10945741
>gemstones
Western dragon it is

>> No.10952607

>>10951625
Noted.

>> No.10954094

>>10951345
The joke is that the stage two boss is being misidentified as two different things.

>> No.10954144

>>10946317
Google and IQDB found nothing. Who is the artist for that?

>> No.10954154

Maybe an akuma/demon, if they all follow the eastern/western mythological split.

>> No.10954165

I want a George Washington loli.

>> No.10954167

>>10954165
>>not a Thomas Jefferson loli

Newfags won't get this.

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>>10948227
Even the most placid of youkai can become belligerent if they feel their lives are in danger.

Most youkai are terrified of evil spirits. Since youkai have such simple souls, if they get possessed, it can kill them... on a permanent basis. That's also why it would make sense for the god of a shrine that specializes in youkai extermination to be an evil spirit.

>> No.10954279

>>10954272
I thought Reimu COULD kill youkai permanently, she just doesn't do it for the sake of upsetting the balance.

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>>10954279
She can do so because of the Yin Yang orbs that are blessed by the shrine's god.

>> No.10954322

>>10954272
I don't think there's been a recorded incident of a human spirit possessing a youkai. The possible outcome was theorized in SoPM, however.

Plus the underground folk live near many vengeful spirits, orin in particular.

>> No.10954447

>>10954322
Yeah, but they've got some defenses.
Orin is a Kassha, so she can control the spirits with her necromancy.
Okuu is a hell raven, which are native to hell.
Yuugi doesn't give a fuck, and in some circles of thought, oni are technically not youkai.
Satori (the species) terrify evil spirits because of their abilities to read minds.
Kisume and Yamame don't actually live in hell, but they live along the path.
Parsee is the embodiment of a negative human emotion, and as such, the evil spirits probably think she's one of them.

>> No.10955060

>>10954312
For that matter, can't any trained priest or individual kill a youkai? Isn't it a matter of knowing the appropriate rituals or possessing the necessary spiritual power? Physical blows won't do it, but it doesn't seem like a rare thing.

>> No.10955122

I kid you not, Sekibanki is the new Cirno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns_fXX565yI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5enNNhG8tE

>> No.10955132

>>10955122
LOL

>> No.10955171

>>10955122
Does Dullahan Under the Willows remind anyone else of Bell of Avici?

>> No.10955332

>>10945741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls-GFVbB3L4

>> No.10955358

>>10955122
What an airhead.

>> No.10955394

>>10955122
Nega Cirno ⑥⑥⑥

>> No.10955419

>>10955394

But Sekibanki's number is seven.

>> No.10955430

>>10955419
because seven ate nine

>> No.10955490

>>10955122
Perhaps you'd have noticed that this is intentional if you weren't an attention whoring moron obsessed with slandering pure and honest Touhou characters so that other retards of your ilk can comment on your "epic" "new" meme. What next, replacing Kokoro's masks with reaction faces?

Disgusting. Get out of /jp/.

>> No.10957556

Sexybanki!

>> No.10958005
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10958005

I like Sekibanki a lot!

>> No.10958017

I would really like to see a Leshak. Or maybe something from the norse mythology. Ratatoskr, maybe.

>> No.10958040

>>10951402

>scaring children to sleep

What?

>> No.10958080

>>10958017
>norse mythology
Let me think...
Draugr? Troll? Eoten?

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>>10955122
I wouldn't lose my head over Level 2 gameplay mechanics.

>> No.10958103

>>10958080
Well, I honestly think we had enough undead characters for now, so an Eoten would certainly be nice. A norn as a mastermind would be very fitting, too..

>> No.10958121

The only thing I really hope is that I get a normal patch for the final version, not some "self-updating" crap that offers a Polish or Tibetan language version.

As for the extra stage, ZUN could really feature the Street Sharks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGQyMF5a_0

>> No.10958129

>>10958121

Gensokyo.org is probably still going to do their own patch. I for one don't mind having two options, considering that the former takes about a month to release it and they don't do trial patches.

>> No.10958154

So right now we have a Japanese mermaid, Japanese dullahan and Japanese werewolf. The situation calls for a zashiki-warashi who is totally not a brownie or tomte or domovoy or anything like that despite wearing distinctly Western clothing.

>> No.10958332

Imaizumi's dress is a high score card of Hanafuda.
"Susuki ni Tsuki" mean grass and the moon.

>> No.10959036

>>10951402
Snorri -> Sirrno -> Cirno

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