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What do you like most about loli? As for me, I like the legs, the panties, and the butt the most. There isn't actually anything I particularly dislike.

>> No.10893654

Their innocence, small frame, and often-mischievous personalities.

>> No.10893661

Their fragile and twig-like arms and legs

>> No.10893662

>>10893654
Yes, their personalities are often nice.

>> No.10893666

The cuteness and innocence.

>> No.10893668 [DELETED] 

I don't like children

>> No.10893677

>>10893668
Why not?

>> No.10893680
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To me, they're short girls rather than just young girls, though the age isn't a minus either in 2D. I just happen to adore short girls. Oftentimes they're also depicted as having ludicrously wide hips and plump behinds compared to their otherwise petite stature. Their flat chests just serve to accentuate their lower bodies.

Past that, I have a fat fetish and I like pear-shaped girls, while disliking huge, floppy breasts. Besides, lolis end up nearly spherical that much faster...

>> No.10893685

Innocence and cuteness

>> No.10893684

>>10893677
I suck cocks

>> No.10893728

>>10893684
In my experience little girls can have those

>> No.10893732
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>> No.10893735
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Almost too lewd.

>> No.10893763

>>10893647
>I like the legs, the panties, and the butt the most
Now we're talking. Slender loli legs and cute loli butts are the best. Little loli nipples are great too. I also love their tummies.

Who am I kidding? I love everything about loli.

>> No.10893772

no body hair and no monthly bleeding. If adults and cougars had that, then I'd like them more too.

>> No.10893782

their farts

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>>10893763
I like their tummies too, and their armpits/necks. The smooth crook of a tender armpit is very enticing, so is the smoothness and softness of their bellies.

I want to lick.

>> No.10893965

>>10893735
Can't unseen this ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ

>> No.10894045
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>>10893782
I must concur, though you should be aware of a superior pleasure. Consider the food selections made by loli throughout a given day. Any such combination of comestible items is suitable as it was chosen freely by loli and is thus excellent. As a material creature, loli must derive nourishment from the food she chooses to serve her body. Following regular processing through her notably cute digestive system, loli develops a store of amassed bodily waste. To consider this as such in any other sense, however, would be an error. Loli's body enhances previously delectable treats into a unique culinary entity. Offered to the distinguished connoisseur is a rich, concise treasure delicately composed in corporeal perfection.

>> No.10894056

I like butts the most. Children are too small to have significant butts so this is sad.

>> No.10894071

>>10893732
>>10893735
Can I get some hot sauce?

>> No.10894088

Why do you look up little girls' skirts, /jp/?

>> No.10894092

>>10894071
watts

>> No.10894130

>>10894088
looking up skirts and down shirts is a time honored male tradition that cannot be limited by things such as age and dimensions.

>> No.10894138

>>10894088

This reminds me of that part in Katawa Shoujo where the MC looks down Lily's shirt. What a scoundrel.

>> No.10894190

I like their shoes and socks

>> No.10894220

I like their innocence, I like how they act before they becoming teenagers, I like their slender features, I like how much smaller than I they are.

>> No.10895700

>>10894088
Some things are just waiting to be seen.

>> No.10895907

They act just like grown women, but they're cuter and your allowed to stop them from doing bad things.

>> No.10895925

I hate how "lolis" are overly sexualized and ride the strongest on cute/erotic cliche. Pretty much the whole term means that.

Anyway. I like Rika. She is funny/adorable and least fitting in this idiotic bandwagon. andthatisn'tmuchssh

>> No.10895946

Can a loli be a bro?

>> No.10895951

I like the loli's vagina. Much tighter than an adult vagina and smells better too.

>> No.10895967

what the fuck is this?pedo general?

lolis are highly overrated.get some taste.

>> No.10895968

>>10895951
A lot of them rarely wipe after they pee. So it smells like dried piss, I have a niece so I know.

>> No.10895969
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Are we talking 2D or 3D?

>> No.10895974

>>10895969
3D under the shadow of 2D

So these sickos can comfort each other.

>> No.10895979

>>10895974
Here on /jp/ we embrace love for 3D and 2D lolis.

>> No.10895981

>>10895979
Watch out, janny doesn't like discussions about 3D loli.

>> No.10895982

>>10895981
3D lolis are cuter than 2D ones in my opinion.
We should be able to discuss both equally, even if we can't post pictures due to the rules and for people who have them, legal reasons.

>> No.10895985

Does anyone else like toddlers more than the usual 12 year old loli?

>> No.10895986

>>10895985
Only in 2D.

>> No.10895989

>>10895985
I've fapped to the Enjeru series like...50 times or more. I wish they made more toddlercon.

>> No.10895996

>>10895985
12 year old loli is almost the sublimeness.

The only thing better is an 11 year old, or perhaps a 10 year old.

I can't understand the appeal of toddlers, but to each their own.

>> No.10896000

>>10895974
/jp/- Just Pedo

>> No.10896002

>>10895996
I prefer the 5-9 range the most myself.

>> No.10896009

DICKSPAMMER GET IN HERE

>> No.10896012

>>10896002
Yeah man, can't do that. I just can't see the appeal of that shit.

A 11 year old is simply superior in every way than, say, a 8 year old.

You see, they have the delicious dichotomy of still being cute and innocent, while still being vaguely cognizant of more lewd and slutty things. This dichotomy is what makes them infinitely appealing. Not to mention their bodies, but that goes without saying.

Someone in the 5-9 range is just cute, but that's about it.

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>>10895996
9-12 is my favorite range. Slight hints of growth and they're old enough to not be entirely clueless. More likely to make a move themselves.

>> No.10896015

>>10895985
Yes, because I find most lolis are not drawn loli enough for my taste, >>10894045 for example.

>> No.10896024

>>10896012
I think 11 is a bit too old.
7-9 is the absolute best range for me. I like flat bodies.

>> No.10896025

>>10896002
Same here. I think that's when they're cutest.

>> No.10896026

>>10896013
Seconded. I love this age range.

>> No.10896027

Ah... Ah...
I want to fuck a child~

>> No.10896031

>>10896012
Their tiny bodies is the appeal for me at least.

Toddlercon blowjobs makes me cum so hard.

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>>10896027

>> No.10896035

Do any of you live near schools/parks?

>> No.10896038
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>>10896035

>> No.10896039

>>10896034
See, that's a real child and those things are disgusting as hell.

2d only

>> No.10896041

>>10896039
shit taste

>> No.10896045

Why does /jp/ like little girls so much more than little boys?

>> No.10896048

>>10896034
Real kids are kinda cute and all, but I don't harbor any sexual feelings for them.
2D loli is much lewder.

>> No.10896050

>>10896045
fuck off fag

>> No.10896054

>>10896039
What are you talking about? She's very cute.

>> No.10896059 [SPOILER] 
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>>10896045
I fantasize about being an adult woman breastfeeding my son.

>> No.10896066

>>10896050
Children all have similar bodies and /jp/ likes traps, I don't understand the issue. It's even easier to connect with a little boy because you once were one.

>> No.10896071

>>10896066
I'm not entirely sure what it is, but I personally don't find little boys appealing. I love lolis, and girly men and dicks and all, just not little boys.

>> No.10896072

>>10896045
I like both.

I also prefer loli sex with a shota instead of an aged, balding man. It's cute and pure.

>> No.10896077

>>10896066
I can connect with them in straight shota doujins, but solo they're just not appealing at all.

>> No.10896079

>>10895982
Is looking at U-15 idols even technically illegal anywhere?

>> No.10896080

>>10896015
>drawn
I don't think you quite understand what we are talking about here.

>> No.10896083

>>10896079
Depending on how they're depicted and what a jury thinks, possibly the US:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

Extra penalties if it's someone under 12.

>> No.10896093

>>10896083
Well thank god I stay away from that stuff then, Guess Ill stick to 2D

>> No.10896099

>>10896093
> including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting
> Nonrequired Element of Offense.— It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

You were saying?

>> No.10896105

>>10896099
Pretty sure 2D is legal in some states though...

>> No.10896108

>>10896059
I fantasize about being a young women and diapering a 12-13 year old boy that I babysit.

>> No.10896185

What does /jp/ think of Japan's love for taking upskirt photos of lolis?

>> No.10896201

>>10896185
I think they should take more steps to regard the healthy development of youths.

>> No.10896202

>>10896185
I'm going to need some pictures to accurately judge.

>> No.10896203

So what are the news on the loli ban thing in Japan? Is it really going to happen?

>> No.10896210

>>10896099
They haven't dared prosecute under that law yet (In before Handley who went to jail for plea bargaining something entirely different) because they know the shit would totally hit the fan if they did.

At this point it may as well not even exist.

>> No.10896222

Their innocence, their childishness, the way they dress, their hair, their face, every part of their body (especially belly, butt, and shoulders) and their voice. A loli with a roundish belly is the best of all though.

>> No.10896224

>>10896185
They actually outlawed child pornography as late as in 1999

And they brag about "we never had slaves" etc
hah

>> No.10896226

>>10896222
The belly. Is the chest is bigger than the belly bulge she's too old.

>> No.10896229

>>10895996
I like ages seven to eleven. Seven year olds are really cute, can mostly handle themselves, and like doing fun things. Eleven year olds are mostly the same, just a bit older with slightly different/slightly more lewd bodies. Between the two ages there's a nice transition.

When I say 'fun things' I mean things like making cookies together, or playing in the pool, or playing games together.

>> No.10896230

>>10896224
>"we never had slaves"

It's funny because Japanese work ethics.

>> No.10896231

I want to be /jp/'s loli

>> No.10896232

>>10896224
Upskirt of a child's panties isn't child porn though, is it?

>> No.10896243

>>10896229
I'd like a late blooming 13 year old.

>> No.10896244

>>10896232
Not really. But they had actual CP at that time legally.

>> No.10896252

>>10896226
Yeah, that's how I feel. Though my preferences get pretty close to toddlercon, with 4-8 being my favorite age range.

>> No.10896261

>>10896226
I like that comparison used as an age range. My favorite part of loli is that round belly...

>> No.10896258

>>10896252
You're close to mine, I like 3-8 the most.

>> No.10896267

>>10896035
I live 1/4 a mile from an elementary school in my neighborhood, which is right right across the street from a park. The way the school is set up, anyone can access the playgrounds, soccer/baseball fields, and basketball courts, but not the classrooms. The park across the street is just a normal neighborhood park/playground with no water feature.

In this part of the city almost every 1 square mile neighborhood has a park and school in it. It's kind of odd now that I think of it.

>> No.10896288

>>10896230
They aren't spoiled little western brats.

>> No.10896291

>>10896288
we aren't talking about kids, cowboy

>> No.10896295

>>10896291
Neither was I.

>> No.10896294
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/jp/ers don't deserve to have sexual pleasure. If I had it my way, I would castrate you all!

>> No.10896300

>>10896294
but i'm a girl!

>> No.10896302

>>10896295
>brats
explain yourself jew sympathizer

>> No.10896311

>>10896300
well , then id chop off your clit !

>> No.10896321

>>10896311
>>10896294
That's very rude.

>> No.10896391

>>10896311
ain't much to chop at. ok. i shut up. bye

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>>10896013
This artist does really nice lolis.

>> No.10896410

>>10896071
That sounds like it could be connected to some insecurity.

>> No.10896454 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 
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>:)

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11 is the best age.
Perfect combination of innocence and romantic/sexual curiosity. Nothing in the world is more beautiful than an 11 year old girl. NOTHING

>> No.10896476

I like little girls

>> No.10896478

>>10896463
Not exactly since development speed varies.

>> No.10896483

>>10896390
That's a cute tan and outfit. I am going to get a tan and outfit like that.

>> No.10896493

>>10896083

>what the jury thinks

AHAHAHA faggot

>> No.10896505 [DELETED] 

>>10896493
epic meme /v/ro :)

>> No.10896506

I like how innocent they are.
I do not view them sexually, I only view them as a child I want to protect.

If I were 2D, I'd just want to live a peaceful life raising my daughter.
Like Yotsuba.

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>>10896505
Feeling sore?

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>>10896505

anon is from /dsg/
and dont u fukin forget it fagit

>> No.10896514

I like their stomachs, still with a little bit of baby fat the best.

>> No.10896519

>>10896083
>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A
invalid, it was ruled unconstitutional

try again?

>> No.10896520

>>10896505
its /b/ro

>> No.10896529

>>10896514
this

>> No.10896532

I used to like 3D lolis alot because I thought they were all so innocent and nice. But recently I started hanging out with a 6 year old girl and one of her friends bullies me constantly. Just the other day she slapped me multiple times and pinched my cheeks until my face was noticeably red, and just laughed at me when I asked her to stop.
The other girl is really nice and cute though.

>> No.10896539

I just like sexualizing cute stuff, except animals.

>> No.10896538

>>10896532
I think a lot of people here would enjoy being bullied by a loli.

>> No.10896542

>>10896539
carebears

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>>10896532
You are so wimpish that even little girls can bully you?
It is both tragic that you lack the authority to order them about and that you can't take a six year old's slaps in stride.

>> No.10896576

>>10896571
Maybe he just likes getting bullied by little girls dude.

>> No.10896579

>>10896571
yo, assclown. she likes him, obviously.

oooooooooh ano.n. you gotta giiiiiiiirlfriennnnd. ahahahaha. you got cooties!

>> No.10896588

>>10896532
I fucking hate lolis that try to dominate the relationship, fuck them, I'm the man, little bitch.

>> No.10896591

>>10896532
How exactly do you start hanging around with a 6 year old girl? I find this kind of breaks the realism of your story; cute as it may be.

>> No.10896612

>>10896591
I volunteer at a daycare and do out of school care a few times a week. I can handle most of the kids, except for the girl who bullies me.

>> No.10896615

>>10896591
Relative or family friend. It's not unusual.

>> No.10896634

This thread would make lolis cry.

>> No.10896636

>>10896634
Because these perverted fucks would be molesting them.

>> No.10896637

>>10896634
This is not a thread for lolis.

>> No.10896646

Imagine being friends with young mother and her constantly teasing you about your lack of relationships by suggesting you go out with her 10 year old daughter.

>> No.10896655

>>10896646
no

>> No.10896661

>>10896646
I enjoy thinking about this.

>> No.10896667

>>10896646
Would she let me go out with her!?

>> No.10896683

>>10896667
Yes, and then she would ask her daughter how she was treated to know how 'trustworthy' you are.

>> No.10896691

>>10893647
I like how easy they are to rape.

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>>10896483
Tan = pig SUDO disgust in most cases. Fucking orange skin who even goes to look more like?

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>>10896787
Orange skin is normally the result of a fake tan. A proper tan will be a nice brown color, with some parts being lighter because of tanlines.

>> No.10897062

Sakura kino moto too is still the best one. 10 to 12 yrs old is about optimal.

>> No.10897189

>>10897062
Optimal for what?

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>>10896835
Have you ever seen a farmer tan? Also, brown is subjective, because there's basically only one pigment (pheomelanin, eumelanin) in a range of concentrations in the skin. It's either there, or it's not. And once it's there, it takes at least 5 years of no sun exposure at all to fully get rid of.

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#notacop

>> No.10897495

Children are cute, not sexy

>> No.10897504
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10 to 17 is the cutest. You dudes should read lolita, it's wisdom.

>> No.10897516

>>10897504
>thinking Lolita actually endorses this obsession

>> No.10897514

>>10897504
Why do I find myself agreeing with Humbert so much? I doubt that was the intention of the author.
Also oh god, Anise is hot.

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>>10897514
>Also oh god, Anise is hot.
Too bad that that Abyss' combat had a lot of bullshit. I never knew what team was best to run. I always did Luke, Anise, Guy and Natalia. I think that I was supposed to be running Tear as my healer instead, but I was really turned off by her lack of DEF and ranged attacking.

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I'm drinking orange juice out of a sippy cup right now and I feel like a cute loli!

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>>10897534
You have to learn to use your shortcuts and strategy options properly.
Otherwise Just Dragon Tempest things to death with Guy and you are done.
And yeah, removing Tear from your party is not the best idea.

>> No.10897572

>>10897561
Well if I ever get to replaying, I'll run her next time. I was really dismayed by the lack of Nurse or other high tier healing arts.

During the last dungeon I ran Luke, Anise, Tear and Natalia and did pretty well. It's a shame, though. I love using Guy. He is a great compliment to Luke's playstyle.

>> No.10897628

Why does /jp/ like 3D lolis so much?

>> No.10897678

>>10897557
I find myself doing far too many things in an effort to feel cute than should be acceptable for a man.

>> No.10897731

Do you guys have anyone to talk to irl about your problems? I've told my doctor stuff, she is fairly supportive.

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>>10897678
That's totally fine so don't feel bad about it okay! I think people should do whatever it takes to make themselves happy so long as doing so does not encroach on anyone else's civil liberties. You can be as cute as you want to be, friend!

>> No.10897749

>>10897731
I'd be too scared to tell anyone in real life.

>> No.10897769

>>10897749
My closest friends and doctor are the only ones who know. I don't trust my family, however.

>> No.10897773

>>10897731
No and I probably never will. Though I think my sister might have suspicions about me.

>> No.10897781

>>10897773
>suspicions
Whats' that mean? Would she snitch on you if she found out?

>> No.10897790

>>10897781
She acts kind of standoffish around me now. We used to be close friends.
I don't know if she'd snitch, she's a jesus freak now so probably. I think she'd probably tell our mother.

>> No.10897798

>>10897731
I think things would be a lot worse if I wasn't able to interact with my relatives every so often. I would probably try to befriend some unrelated loli and you know how that would turn out.

With things like this I can get my dose of loli, they can have fun, and all is good with the world. I like to think that I'm a good influence on them as well, so there's that.

>> No.10897799

>>10897790
Well what tipped her off or made her suspicious in the first place? If you weren't in any relationships ever wouldn't her first natural assumption be that you are gay?

>> No.10897808

>>10897745
I feel fine when I start, but slowly I think about how much better things would be if there were a loli with me enjoying those things, and I become sad.

>> No.10897808,1 [INTERNAL] 

Wow, a little over 24 hours.

>> No.10897817

>>10897799
She and I got into a discussion about morals and I was defending incest and slightly defending hebephilia. I think that tipped her off. I've had a few relationships with girls, but they were all fairly short and pointless.

>> No.10897826

>>10897817
Oh wow, better watch out then.

>> No.10897843

>>10897817
>I was defending incest and slightly defending hebephilia
Those things don't need a defense. Fuck your sister if she's so blinded by her false moral superiority that she's willing to let that affect a family bond. I talk about that shit with my sister all the time. She respects my views and even agrees with them to an extent.

>> No.10897877

>>10897731
My only problem is I'm lazy and have no drive to do anything.

>> No.10897878

>>10897843
She was denying evolution. I really wanted to hit her. That church ruined my sister.

>> No.10897910

>>10897878
That's a shame, anon. Depending on how she is, maybe she'll grow out of it someday?

>> No.10897911

>>10895982

Eh, just go to TORchan, they love to comfort each other about it there. I've come to terms with the fact that liking kiddies isn't normal and I'm a sicko, it is indefencable.

>> No.10897917

>>10897910
>how she is
how *old she is

>> No.10897930

>>10897910
She's 13, so there's still time. But the stupid teenaged girl syndrome has already set in and it only makes it harder.

>> No.10897939

>>10897628
Imprinting my friend, not our choice. Almost everyone, everywhere is busy hiding their real "sexuality". Almost no one actually has sexual imprinting equivalent to that their "tribe", "social circle" has set.
Some people can't comprehend this much, and despite not having the imprinting match with the actual "standard" they themselves shun "non-standard" reasons. These people are called normalfags, imposing their beliefs, "social-circle" believes upon you and your actual, true, personal beliefs or imprints.

I'd never tell anyone IRL about these things, because I'm simply scared that people could see my very differently, shun me or start keeping me away from their children, which would only hurt me (despite me not doing anything wrong, or changing in behavior whatsoever). I don't know how people in different tunnel realities see what I see as a daily routine, I cannot do something that will directly go against their reality tunnels and social taboos to endanger myself. It's a conflict of realities, I can't know and never will understand deeply why they are like that. I lost the weird kind of "social switch" years, years ago, and I don't know if members of my family do have it, or not. I stopped going to psychiatrists years ago as well, they don't help, they only want to help. Medications won't do anything but work as a placebo machine and make you feel miserable. You cannot change beliefs based upon pills, not with today's technology. I talked with them about a lot of things. but never told them about my sexual preferences much at all, simply scared that they could notify authorities if I even slipped a glimpse of that I own some trace of illegal porn or may have, for example, kissed some child, and problems with it is the last thing I'd want. I was once depressed but what truly got me off, was me realizing few things, I was seeing three different psychiatrists at that time and taking meds, and it never helped. If you want to change, do it yourself.

>> No.10897940

>>10897930

Ah, little sisters. Angry little sister is cute and funny in 2D, its terrible in real life. Its enough to put you off women forever. Especially if you're British, teenage girls here make me feel ill.

>> No.10897953

>>10897939

As one of you myself, I can tell you they're right. Paedophiles are dangerous, shit even 12th Century Britian knew that fucking 9 year old's was wrong. Think about like this, you're a Dad, raising his cute innocent daughter, slowly molding her into a happy and fulfulling life. She's happy, she's learning, playing and enjoying her childhood. Then, so hairy guy older than you comes along and fucks her in the park. Now she's been introduced into the adult world and the complexities of sex and the feelings that come along with it, that not even most adults have come to terms with. And he no consideration for what your daughter would feel like, he just wanted to get his end away to some loli vulva. She can't concentrate in school, she's having tantrums, and growing more distant because of the feelings that arose from being exposed to it. She'll never be the daughter you loved and she'll have the life you wanted all because some guy wanted to jizz.

For all of our sakes, its best loli stays in 2D and these feelings also stay in that realm. It's natural to be wary of pedophiles, people aren't taking your feelings into consideration when they're thinking about their children, and its the same to any outside influence on them. Its burden we just have to bear.

>> No.10897964

>>10897953
You're right as well, these kind of pedophiles are people that should get killed, really. If one is intelligent he can realize what consequences his actions bear, if you're a good human, you won't try to hurt another human being. There are sometimes exceptions to do that, probably, we can argue about how much adult-child relationship is harmful and its effects, but if I had a daughter, I'd just act as you say. I'm not the kind of human to do something as disgusting as attempt rape or even touch someone without their permission. Little girls (at least in my family) don't mind me hugging them, I just like them and this is as far as I will go if I don't want anyone to get hurt in the process.

I guess fantasy is the only place we belong to. Kinda sad, but what better alternative can we get? Hurting people, risking jail, living in fear?

>> No.10897983

>>10897953
Paraphilias are not dangerous per se. Only those antisocial enough to act on those impulses can truly be regarded as dangerous. Just like how everyone thinks about hurting people sometimes for whatever reason; they don't become criminals until they take the next step--most people don't.

I fail to see the attraction of 3D besides the outright taboo nature of it. Loli is great because it's so fantastic in nature. I personally like really lewd, dominant lolis. Those do not exist in real life.

>> No.10897991

>>10897964

Well, I wouldn't as far to say they should get killed, but people who act on it should be looked upon with disgust. Many Peadophiles often target rights to choose and physical harm as reason for why adult-child sex should be allowed, personally, I don't think children can choose because they make retarded decisions even in normal life, that's why parents do everything for them, and they're much more inclined to take risks than adults, they don't think things through. What they don't understand is that sex is an incredibly complex behaviour that can lead to a large range of emotions. Love is all fine and dandy when it goes right, but its terrible when it goes wrong, and for most people, it does. Even for animals, sex can be a distressing and confusing endeavour. I just don't think children, and even most young adults are ready for it. Plus, it distracts them from their education something awful.

>>10897983

No, of course not. There is nothing wrong with like guro, loli ect because you can't help it, although for a social retard like me seeing it in 2D is more distressing than 3D, because I love those characters. I trying to explain it from a parent's perspective about why they are so against pedophiles. But its not just them, many people are looked at someone who should be avoided when there's children around. Think of someone walks around swearing and calling people "cunt" all the time. You wouldn't your children hang about with him.

And I think you're right about the taboo thing, early humans did had all the chances in the world to fuck lolis, but they usually never had a fetish to an extent we do. Not even chimpanzees engage in that behaviour, despite having the opportunity to.

>> No.10898420

>>10897953
Just because you're attracted to children doesn't mean you rape them.
Not only that, but child abuse is universally done by people close to the child. It's extremely rare for some creepy kidnapper to come and snatch your daughter away because chances are you're the pedo fucking her instead.

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>> No.10899786

Humans have a natural preference for youthful features in mates and have feelings of affection towards children. These things can get mixed up. But it won't cause any problems in a non-degenerate culture.

>> No.10899857

>>10899786
>But it won't cause any problems in a non-degenerate culture.
Well, looks like we're fucked!

>> No.10900090

>>10896034
>>10896039
>>10896048
But that's a shitty 4 years old. That faggot is cheating.

>> No.10900158

Could anyone kindly explain to me why the Comic LO 2013-06 Vol.111 raws haven't been scanned yet?

It's only $7 and was released almost a month ago.

I'm also seeing a bunch of Chinese translations of some chapters. What the fuck is going on? Are the Chinese hogging the raws again? Why would they do something like that?

>> No.10900172

Shota > Loli
Prove me wrong, turbonerds.

>> No.10900181

>>10900172

You are completely right.

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>>10900172
It's not like there's much difference at that age.

>> No.10900323

>>10900223
Their personalities are completely different. And girls have better butts.

>> No.10900347

>>10900323
Lolis have nice butts.

>> No.10900368

>>10900323
>>10900347
Where do you get this information about butts from?

>> No.10900378

>>10900368

Butts Monthly

>> No.10900391

>>10900368
Webcams.

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>>10900368
Just by regularly looking at loli butts you can tell that on average a loli butt is nicer than the butts belonging to all other demographics.

>> No.10900502

>>10900158
They r raided by police. You have to wait till next month.

>> No.10900528

>>10900502
Wait, what? Who?

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>>10900502
Liar.

>> No.10900543 [DELETED] 

>>10900528
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2013/04/25/cops-raid-comic-megastore-force-cancellation/ There should be topic about raiding comic lo too I suppose.

>> No.10900551

>>10900407
The Romans didn't seem to think so, and they created western civilization so they clearly knew shit.

>> No.10900553

>>10900543
>sankaku

Kill yourself.

>> No.10900554

>>10900539
I wish i could by it.

>> No.10900557

>>10900554
buy *fix

>> No.10900818

This thread is ass.

>> No.10900823

>>10897953
>Paedophiles are dangerous
No.

>> No.10901079

I like loli cuteness. Lolis are unsuitable for sexualisation.

>> No.10901170

When does a girl stop being a loli and a boy stop being a shota?

>> No.10901210

>>10901079
I like da cut of your jib, mister.

>> No.10901237

>>10901170
When they stop being innocent.

>> No.10901280

>>10901237
So Rin from Kodomo no Jikan isn't a loli?

>> No.10901288

>>10900823
You can't be serious

>> No.10901304

>>10901280
There are exceptions like slutty lolis.

>> No.10901348

>>10901288
Not that guy, but that's like saying "Homosexuals are dangerous".

>> No.10901377

>>10901348
Just look at the creepy stuff pedophiles talk about on Warosu. Those seem like dangerous people to me.

>> No.10901441

>>10901348
Not at all. Homosexuals have consensual sex. Pedophiles rape children.

>> No.10901444

>>10901377
Just look at the creepy stuff homos talk about on Tumblr. Those seem like dangerous people to me.

>> No.10901485

>>10901441
Some pedophiles rape children just like some homosexuals rape men.

>> No.10901491

>>10901377
Lately I've been wondering if Warosu is being monitored.

>> No.10901526

>>10901491
If it isn't already, I'm sure it will be eventually. I hope ZUN!bar doesn't get in trouble for posting there.

>> No.10901577

>>10901485

Adults cannot have sex with children without it being rape

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>>10901588
Oops. Forgot my pic.

>> No.10901588

And then we have the gay men who are fucking evil/insane.

>> No.10901595

>>10901577
lel
If you seriously believe that, then I'm ending this conversation here.

>> No.10901605

>>10901595
Not him, but if a child does not understand what you are doing to it, it is rape.

Then again, we had the boy prostitutes in ancient greece who were, according to what I read, "too wicked". I suppose that corruption is a kind of maturity.

>> No.10901608

>>10901595
please don't think this unironically

though the >lel tells me you probably are doing it ironically

>> No.10901609

>>10901595
When they hell is it okay to have sex with children? I seriously hope you're joking.

>> No.10901610

>>10901595
Different guy here.
While a paedophile myself, I understand that a child doesn't have the mental capacity to agree to have sex with someone. Unless we have different definitions for what a child is, I don't think it's really possible to have ethical relations with a child. Unless they happened to be extremely mature and intelligent.

>> No.10901611

>>10901595

You actually think a child (who can't understand the concept of sex and relationships) would ever want to have sex with some gross old man who posts on /jp/?

People can't grasp these concepts until after puberty. The only way for a child to 'consent' would be through coercion and deceit

>> No.10901616

>>10901605
>>10901608
>>10901609
>>10901611
Anecdotal evidence means shit, but I knew about sex before third grade.

>>10901610
There's also kids that are mature too.

I guess my point is "There are exceptions so don't use never or always when arguing about ethics/morals"

>> No.10901625

>>10901616
The problem is that who gets to get the choice in the whole relationship. You?

I mean, most kids don't even care about the idea of fucking one another until hormones come in force. Yes, children do masturbate, but mostly as a means of self gratification rather then actual sexual arousal.

>> No.10901626

>>10901616

>I knew about sex before third grade.

did you want an ugly old man to stick his penis in you?

>> No.10901635

>>10901625
I'm just saying there are exceptions.

>>10901626
All pedophiles are ugly old men.

>> No.10901645

Yet another 2D loli thread turned into an "it's okay to fuck real children" thread.

I hate all of you so much.

>> No.10901648

>>10901635

>All pedophiles are ugly old men.

>not answering the question

>> No.10901653

>>10901645
I'm not saying it's okay, I'm just saying not all sex is rape.

We can talk about lolis if you want. It always ends up like this though.

>>10901648
You couldn't tell my sarcasm?

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>>10901645
A verdict on the subject must be reached in order to render judgement. All angles must be seen, all evidence must be gathered and all opinions must be heard.

>> No.10901659

>>10901653
>I'm not saying it's okay, I'm just saying not all sex is rape.
legally it most certainly is

do you really think your stupid anecdotal ``evidence'' is worth more than the decades of studying done to determine age of consent done by professionals?

>> No.10901661

>>10901645
>2D loli thread

Enough of this already.

>> No.10901665

>>10901653
>You couldn't tell my sarcasm?

You didn't answer the question

>> No.10901673

>>10901653
>I'm just saying not all sex is rape
"Rape" and "abuse" are much too heavy and are inevitably attached to social stigma. The problem is that children cannot reasonably consent like an adult could because their brains aren't developed enough. That doesn't mean that children can't enjoy sexual activity. The problem is that most of that a lot of pedophiles will likely manipulate them into little more than sex toys.

By how we define consent, all sex involving children technically IS rape.

>> No.10901677

>>10901659
>decades of studying done to determine age of consent done by professionals
Are you serious? It's completely arbitrary. If you want to go by frontal cortex, make the age of consent 21. Psychology? "What you did was very fucking wrong and you should feel dirtied" is not a very valid study in my opinion. Of course, you're welcome to cite any sources to disprove my thoughts about "decades of studying by professionals".

>>10901665
It's a loaded question. You're assuming that all pedophiles are a) ugly and b) old. By making it seem very unappealing, the only answer is "No."

>> No.10901679

>decades of studying done to determine age of consent
>by professionals

Laugh out loud.

>> No.10901684

>>10901659
>decades of studying done to determine age of consent done by professionals?
If it was done by professionals, the age of consent would be "married".

>> No.10901685

>>10901659
>decades of studying done to determine age of consent done by professionals
Seems pretty arbitrary to me. 14-18 depending on where you go. That block of time involves a huge amount of development. Even then, brains do not fully mature until into the 20s. Picking 18 to give a person privileges is dangerous because that age range is marked by some of the worst rates of reckless behavior.

>> No.10901693

>>10901677
w
I messed up and mixed child psychology with age of consent. You get my point.

>> No.10901694

>>10901685
>Picking 18 to give a person privileges is dangerous because that age range is marked by some of the worst rates of reckless behavior.
think about that sentence for a second

please

>> No.10901704

>>10901694
What's wrong with it?

>> No.10901718

>>10901704
Why do you think ``that age range is marked by some of the worst rates of reckless behavior?'' The reckless behavior is brought on by the privileges.

>> No.10901746

>>10901718
No it isn't. The privileges only allow expression of a developmental truism. In controlled studies, teens and young adults display greater risk-taking than older adults under the same conditions. Their frontal lobe development lags behind their limbic system development which explains this risk-taking.

>> No.10901770

>>10901718
If those privileges were given at a younger age, say 13, do you think 13 year olds would be as reckless as 18 year olds?

>> No.10901784

>>10901491
Does he run the place by himself? Why does it take so long to remove illegal content? Even an idiot would have made a script to autodelete posts with the line "check out this cp" by now.

>> No.10901796

>>10901770
Rates among young teens is generally lower IIRC

15-19 and 20-25 are the worst ranges, but, it's important to note that it only gets this high when peers are involved. Still, older adults display lower rates all around, as do children.

>> No.10901831

>>10901784
It seems to only be one admin on that site and they respond to reports made every few days. No use setting up a script to automatically delete stuff because then you might end up deleting threads that don't need to be deleted.

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>>10897930
>>10897940
I feel for you guys. My imouto herself is a bitch of astronomical proportions. Just being around her and hearing her speak makes my heart hurt and gets me stressed out.

I want a cute loli imouto.

>> No.10901863

>>10901854
>I want a cute loli imouto.
Don't we all. I wish I had a doting, but slightly clumsy loli imouto. Unfortunately that would mean another bitch down the line. Keep it 2D, anon. Cherish your dreams forever!

Also, lewd flan garter!

>> No.10901872

>>10901770
13 year old boys are some of the worst juvenile offenders.

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Is it really so strange for normalfags to not understand our appreciation for lolis?

For me I was sexually attracted to women and girls my age when I was around 7-8 years old. I liked them then and I still sort of do now. Attraction for me though depends a lot on the girls personality though so I'm never quite attracted to 3D lolis anymore since the maturity level is obviously quite huge. I still find them cute and I appreciate them very much though. Not saying I'm a pedo that goes around ogling little girls I only ogle 2d I'm just saying that I've always found all women - whether younger or older - rather attractive from a very young age

>> No.10901892

>>10901863
Why do they always have to be bitches? Why aren't there any nice girls. 3D makes me weary.

>> No.10901896

>>10901892
Because humans are complex and thus disingenuous (or at least they possess that capability). With puberty comes ambiguity. Even "nice girls" can become bitches once you get to know them even a little bit.

2D doesn't lie. It's perfect.

>> No.10901905

There's nothing unethical or damaging about having sex with a young child. On its own, this causes no psychological harm, there is no risk of physical harm if vaginal and anal sex are avoided (and even this is possible for people with particularly small penises, I'd imagine.)

The other argument is that becuase children tend to be in a lower position of power than adults, allowing sex between the two can result in the adult manipulating the child. This is also a stupid argument. People manipulate children into doing things they don't want to all the time. Eating vegetables, going on road trips, flushing their dead goldfish. These things are just another type of manipulation. You can argue that they have a positive end which satisfies the negative effect of the manipulation, but so does sex (physical pleasure and the solving of curiosity.) Even putting this aside, it's fallacious to say that all children are incapable of understanding and consenting to sex. People develop thinking skills at different ages, not at the arbitrary, static line in the sand set by various countries.

The real reason sex with minors is outlawed is because people don't like the idea of adults having sex with their children. It is a selfish and controlling idea which doesn't consider the child's desires.

>> No.10901928

>>10901905
>The real reason sex with minors is outlawed is because people don't like the idea of adults having sex with their children. It is a selfish and controlling idea which doesn't consider the child's desires.
Haha, yeah let's just ignore the evidence of human development. It's all a big conspiracy.

And are you trying to compare a white lie and encouraging healthy eating habits to having sex with children? Just shut the fuck up. You're giving pedophiles a bad name.

>> No.10901929

>>10901905
>It is a selfish and controlling idea which doesn't consider the child's desires
Selfish? Adults are supposed to take care of children not let them do what they want and please whenever and however. The laws are set in place to protect children and although they may not be perfect it's surely better than making it okay for them to fuck around or be fucked.

>> No.10901938

>>10901928

>And are you trying to compare a white lie and encouraging healthy eating habits to having sex with children?

Yes, I am. They are both manipulation. Great job making an emotional appeal about how pedophilia is 'JUST PLAIN WRONG' in response.

>>10901929

>Selfish? Adults are supposed to take care of children not let them do what they want and please whenever and however.

No, adults are supposed to act in a child's best interest, not limit harmless things because of their own selfish feelings.

>> No.10901959

>>10901938
Just give it up.

No matter where you go on the internet, there will always be retarded trash who argue with "m-m-muh morals" and refuse to see logic.

5-star post up above, though.

>> No.10901963

>>10901959

This post doesn't contain any rebuttal. I'm glad you knew when to forfeit the argument.

Arguing for your views isn't so easy when you're not circlejerking with a bunch of your SRS buddies, right?

>> No.10901964

>>10901938
>Great job making an emotional appeal about how pedophilia is 'JUST PLAIN WRONG' in response.
Nice. There's nothing wrong with pedophilia. There is something wrong with your rationalization. For one, it completely ignores any and all science. Two, it conflates guidance with sexual manipulation.

Whether you like it or not, people are inseparable from society; the girl will always be hurt. Kids are stupid. They are not smart enough to understand the implications of sex. It would be great if the older party was caring and selfless, but obviously that isn't the case.

>> No.10901966

>>10901963
It contains no rebuttal because I was 100% agreeing with you.

Stop being so prickly.

>> No.10901969

Guys, please. Just post what you like most about the loli.

>> No.10901970

>>10901938
It's not about what the child wants it's about what's best for the child -
taking care of children and doing what's best for them =/= letting them do what they want and please whenever and however

Sex is not harmless especially if you're not ready for it - physically or mentally.

>> No.10901972

>>10901969
The shitstorm that follows any discussion of it.

>> No.10901977

>>10901972
I guess another thread will be made to contain actual loli discussion and not sex discussion.

>> No.10901979

>>10901970
>It's not about what the child wants it's about what's best for the child -
So when are we going to legislate bans on fast food for children?

>> No.10901981

>>10901964

>Two, it conflates guidance with sexual manipulation.

Because they are both manipulation. You should stop trying to change words into more negative alternatives because it isn't working. You can flip it around. "Sexual manipulation" can be called guidance, since it has a positive effect, and telling a child their dead fish will go to heaven can be called "ideological manipulation."

>For one, it completely ignores any and all science.

I can't ignore any science because you haven't even presented any for me to ignore.


>Kids are stupid. They are not smart enough to understand the implications of sex. It would be great if the older party was caring and selfless, but obviously that isn't the case.

Here are some real examples of scientifically unsupported, emotionally-fueled claims.

>> No.10901984

>>10901979
That isn't politically feasible. Fast food companies would stand to loose too much money and they have more than enough lobbyists to defeat any such bill.

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>>10901984
>loose
Murrikan detected

>> No.10901992

>>10901979
If it bothers you that much that kids can eat fast food go lobby for it.

>> No.10901994

>>10901992
In my country, bribing politicians is illegal unfortunately.

>> No.10901997

>>10901987
Everybody cut loose, footloose. Kick off your sunday boots.

>> No.10902003

>>10901997
Just because you can act retarded doesn't mean you have to.

>> No.10902008

>>10902003
I have to, I am a retard. Look at that spelling error I made, clearly my points are invalid.

>> No.10902004

>>10901994
You just need to be more subtle about it. You don't just run up to some politician and shove money in his face.

>> No.10902005

>>10901994
Then go gather some people and protest. Do something about it.
Or why don't you just take over your country and change the law yourself?

>> No.10902009

>>10901994
Bribing is never legal in most countries. It doesn't stop it from happening though.

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>>10901987

>> No.10902017

>>10901981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaget%27s_theory_of_cognitive_development#Formal_operational_stage
Children are incapable of hypothetical/abstract thought. Because they don't understand abstract "if-then" relations they cannot reasonably give consent. If we're referring to children to include adolescents, they're frontal lobes are inadequately developed to allow for sound judgment.

>"Sexual manipulation" can be called guidance, since it has a positive effect
One, children do not naturally know about sex. Someone must introduce them to this concept. Because they cannot reasonably understand what this means in relation to them (because they haven't experienced it) they can ONLY be manipulated into a sex act. Two, please provide some evidence of "positive effect" in having sex with kids. It's so weird, I can only find cases involving extreme trauma! And please don't say "pleasure" because rape victims can still have orgasms due to stimulation. This doesn't mean they need it, want it, or benefit from it.

You really should stop. I don't give a shit if a guy likes children. You're further damaging the label.

>> No.10902021

>>10902005
>protesting in favor of pedophilia

Even in "first world" countries, you'll get lynched for that shit in a heartbeat. The law equates pedophilia to child molestation, even if nobody has acted on those desires. No exceptions.

>> No.10902022

>>10902009
The ones where bribing is not only legal, but customary are amusing, though. Since the bribes end up being silly, like chickens and stuff.

>> No.10902026

>>10902021
I thought he was protesting for more strict food regulations in relationship to fat and salt.

>> No.10902028

>>10902022
The republicans accept poultry now?

>> No.10902038

>>10902028
Bribery in the US is illegal. That's why it has political action committees, as a legal loophole.

>> No.10902041

>>10902038
Changing the name you call it doesn't make it any different from bribery.

>> No.10902047

>>10902028
>>>/pol/

>> No.10902048

>>10902041
If bribery were legal, you could just go up to a congressman and hand him a suitcase filled with money. The fact you have to basically launder it first shows the fact that it's at least attempted to be squashed out.

>> No.10902050

>>10902017

>Children are incapable of hypothetical/abstract thought.
There are no mechanically logical deductions required to realize that sex means actions which will result in a funny feeling in the genitals. People understand the implications and mechanics of eating, and there's no reason that they cannot then understand the implications and mechanics of sex.

>One, children do not naturally know about sex.
Children don't 'naturally' know anything aside from what's in their instincts. Are you saying that children instinctually know about dead goldfishes' fate, but not sex? The mechanics of sex are instinctually ingrained into children's heads (eg.: genital stimulation should be followed by a thrusting motion of the hips.) How do you think animals know how to get it on?

By the way, check out this section of the article you linked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaget%27s_theory_of_cognitive_development#Challanges_to_Piagetian_stage_theory

>> No.10902052

But if you marry her there's no problem. You just need to be good enough for her parents to let you.

>> No.10902055

>>10902048
So if I build a catapult to launch a knife into you, I won't get charged for assault with a deadly weapon? Interesting.

> it's at least attempted to be squashed out.
Biggest joke of the century.

>> No.10902056

>guysss pedophilia should be legal; cumming into little girls is good for them :(((((((

Holy shit, /jp/, and you wonder why moot and the rest of 4chan hates you.

>> No.10902062

>>10902017

>Two, please provide some evidence of "positive effect" in having sex with kids.

Physical pleasure. The satisfaction of curiosity.

>It's so weird, I can only find cases involving extreme trauma!

That's because society tells children that people having sex with them will traumatize them. Touching a child with your genitals is no more harmful on its own than holding hands with them unwillingly (which people do all the time, in order to cross the road safely.)

>And please don't say "pleasure" because rape victims can still have orgasms due to stimulation. This doesn't mean they need it, want it, or benefit from it.

Having sex with children isn't rape unless the child says no.

>> No.10902063

>>10902021
No not in favor of pedophilia in favor of banning fast food for children. In fact why stop there? He should make it so that children can't eat "bad" food at all. I'm waiting to see your results.

>> No.10902076

>>10902062
Drugs can also be physically pleasing and mysterious for children. Then should we let children smoke and snort coke?

>> No.10902078

>>10902063
So raping the nutrition and growth of children is okay but consensual sex with them is not?

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10902080

>>10902056
Epic strawman argument, crossboarder.

>> No.10902082

>>10902076

The difference is that drugs are harmful (with the possible exception of weed, and only if it is vaporized) and sex isn't.

>> No.10902083

>>10902063
The results would be a generation of healthy children and not fatass pigs.

>> No.10902088

>>10902082
How more stereotypical can you get? Get back to Woodstock, hippie

>> No.10902089

>>10902062
>Touching a child with your genitals is no more harmful on its own than holding hands with them unwillingly
[citation needed]

>Having sex with children isn't rape unless the child says no.
So I can tape a child's mouth and have sex with him/her and it's not rape?
Or how about If I slip a little something into their drink and make them pass out and then do the deed? Not rape?
Or what if they can't talk at all ! Not rape right?

Fun story. one of my friends was raped as a young girl, she was forced to blow a dude and do you think she said "no" to him when he told her to do it? She didn't. Why you ask? Because he had a knife held up to her throat. Not very easy to say "no" when you're scared for your life.

>> No.10902095

>>10902082
You can't say sex isn't harmful.

>> No.10902098

>>10902088

It's good that you ducked out of the argument. Your argument was out of legs to stand on.

>>10902089

>[citation needed]

No, there isn't. You tell me what's harmful about it. Here's a hypothetical which is currently illegal and nearly universally regarded as immoral/harmful for a child (on its own): a child touching a bare penis with their hand, by their own choice.

How is this harmful on its own? Explain it to me. Physically or mentally.

>>10902095

Sex isn't harmful.

>>10902089

>So I can tape a child's mouth and have sex with him/her and it's not rape?
Or how about If I slip a little something into their drink and make them pass out and then do the deed? Not rape?
Or what if they can't talk at all ! Not rape right?

You know what I mean, idiot. It's not rape if the child gives consent.

>> No.10902104

>>10902062
>Physical pleasure. The satisfaction of curiosity.
One, not all pleasurable things are positive. Two, children are not naturally curious about sex. No matter what psychological model you apply, the universal tendency is asexuality into sexual awareness following puberty. Hormones in combination with emotional and cognitive maturation make this possible. Why do you think "cooties" exist?

>That's because society tells children that people having sex with them will traumatize them.
Or maybe it's because a guy is shoving his dick into a kid who cannot physically accept it. Not only are the organs underdeveloped, but a lack of overall maturation makes the concept of romance completely foreign to a child.

>Having sex with children isn't rape unless the child says no.
Oh wow. So date rape isn't rape? And again, a child cannot consent because they lack the mental faculties that make that possible. It's why you don't see kids in calculus classes. It's seriously like coercing a retarded person into sex; no matter how I look at it, it's exploitative.

Congratulations, I actually thought that under ideal conditions, sexual exploration with a child might be possible. Arguing with you has actually made me reconsider this position given my own evidence and points.

>> No.10902107
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Age of consent laws are designed to punish beta males. A beta male in his 20s, unsuccessful with women his own age who are infused with a sense of feminist entitlement and deride all but the top alpha males who take interest in them, who seeks companionship with a younger, sexually mature female who desires him, should not go to prison for acting on that which is normal male sexuality. A society that criminalizes this is a society that values females over males and treats women as if they are children.

If we are to treat women as children then we should be consistent. Young women who have sex with older men are as much victims as women who have sex with a pick-up artist after meeting at a club. In both cases, feminists are angry because the woman has been “fooled” into having sex with a less than ideal mate in terms of value. In the first case, the male appears to be of higher value than he really is because he is older and more experienced. In the second case, the male appears to be of higher value than he really is because he has learned the elements of attraction. In both cases, women are presumed (by feminists) to have no responsibility for their own actions and to be little more than children, than animals who are guided only by instinct.

This is what makes feminists angry and this is why age of consent exists still today, because it is assumed women are not mentally mature enough to give consent AND because older women want to limit men’s options to increase their own value in the sexual marketplace. Older women, however, are generally not of a much higher intelligence level than teenage girls. The big difference between the two is that older women are less attractive and that is what makes them so damn angry.

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/jayhammers-blogspot-com-age-of-consent-is-misandry

>> No.10902108

>>10902062
>Physical pleasure. The satisfaction of curiosity.

What bullshit. This is something children should find out on their own, you fucking creep. You obviously just want to fuck lolis for your own selfish reasons.

>> No.10902109

>>10902083
Actually, it would probably create the opposite effect. People, especially children, want what they can't have. Disallowing them from eating junk food until they're an adult is a great way to get a lot of them hooked on the garbage when they grow up.

>> No.10902114

>>10902098
>No, there isn't. You tell me what's harmful about it. Here's a hypothetical which is currently illegal and nearly universally regarded as immoral/harmful for a child (on its own): a child touching a bare penis with their hand, by their own choice.

Diseases, bodily harm, death. Just a few of the things sex can cause.

>> No.10902115
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10902115

>300 posts bump limit reached
>less than 50 on-topic posts before derail
Good job /jp/.

>> No.10902112

>>10902108
>creep

Get out, fujoshit.

>> No.10902118

>>10902104

>One, not all pleasurable things are positive.

All pleasure is positive. Pleasure is positive by nature. Pleasure isn't positive when it's accompanied by something detrimental - good thing there's nothing detrimental about sex.

>Two, children are not naturally curious about sex.

Yes they are. Ask a child if they want to know what sex is and they'll say "yes." You need to stop making appeals to nature, especially when you're not even right about them.

>No matter what psychological model you apply, the universal tendency is asexuality into sexual awareness following puberty.

No, plenty of kids want to try sex before puberty. I did.

>Or maybe it's because a guy is shoving his dick into a kid who cannot physically accept it. Not only are the organs underdeveloped, but a lack of overall maturation makes the concept of romance completely foreign to a child.

Sex =! vaginal penetration. Abandon this argument. It has no hope for you. Tell me: what's wrong with having oral sex with a consenting child?

>Oh wow. So date rape isn't rape? And again, a child cannot consent because they lack the mental faculties that make that possible. It's why you don't see kids in calculus classes. It's seriously like coercing a retarded person into sex; no matter how I look at it, it's exploitative.

Again: you know what I mean. I'm not going to glorify this with a response.

>> No.10902119

>>10902114
>death
>by sex
We're not talking about your fantasies.

>> No.10902122

>>10902109
When you become an adult you crave to eat the food your mother fed you as a child due to nostalgia. Now imagine if that was healthy food. Sure, you would still have junk food as a guilty pleasure, but it wouldn't be the foundation of your diet.

>> No.10902123

>>10902114

All of those things can happen to adults. Adults shouldn't have sex, too, right?

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>>10902107
You mean westernized society values women over men? That's a shocker.

>> No.10902126

>>10902098
>No, there isn't. You tell me what's harmful about it
You don't understand how this works. You're going against the majority. You have to explain why you're in the right, I don't have to defend anything.

>Sex isn't harmful.
That's not true.
It's harmful in some cases, and not in others. You can't say that it isn't since there exists cases where it is harmful.

>You know what I mean, idiot. It's not rape if the child gives consent.
Define consent

>> No.10902128

>>10902119
You could get AIDS and die or become pregnant and die from birth complications.

>> No.10902137

>>10902118
>Tell me: what's wrong with having oral sex with a consenting child?

Oh, so you're the same mentally ill pedophile from the other threads. I'm glad to know that at least /jp/ isn't overrun with scum like you.

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>>10902118
>All pleasure is positive
>Pleasure isn't positive when it's accompanied by something detrimental
Stop contradicting yourself.

>> No.10902131

>>10902122
>When you become an adult you crave to eat the food your mother fed you as a child due to nostalgia.

Calling absolute bullshit.

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10902133

>>10902128
>die from birth complications.
I hope you're laughing as hard as I am.

>> No.10902134

>>10902123
They shouldn't, but adults have more legal privileges and you can't boss them around as easily as you can kids.

>> No.10902135

>>10902128
Nah, surely a seven year old will make him wrap it up first. You don't think she's a slut, do you?

>> No.10902139

>>10902133
You are one morbid individual.

>> No.10902142

>>10902126
>You don't understand how this works.

I hate to stop your catfight, but he's actually right. Burden of proof lies with the claim bearer. You claim that a child touching a penis causes damage somehow, so you need to provide evidence for it. The majority opinion has absolutely nothing at all to do with it.

>> No.10902143

>>10902126

>You don't understand how this works. You're going against the majority. You have to explain why you're in the right, I don't have to defend anything.

No, I'm not obligated to explain to you how it isn't harmful when you haven't explained any way that it is. That's not how the burden of proof works. I cannot refute an argument that isn't there.

>It's harmful in some cases, and not in others. You can't say that it isn't since there exists cases where it is harmful.

It can be harmful for adults too. Should adults be disallowed from having sex?

>Define consent

I'm not going to play this game. Look up consent in a dictionary.

>> No.10902145

>>10902142

Thanks for this.

>> No.10902146

>>10902142
>You claim that a child touching a penis causes damage somehow
I never claimed that.

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10902148

Guys? I'm sensing an absolutely INCREDIBLE amount of rage in this thread and I want to get in on it. Where do I start?

>> No.10902149

>>10902146

So you just complicity believe it without 'claiming' it? Do you know what a claim is?

Or do you agree with me that it isn't harmful? Do you realize this sabotages your argument?

>> No.10902152

>>10902142
Look at
>>10902062
he's the one who makes claims first, so no burden of proof is on him. Specifically
>Touching a child with your genitals is no more harmful on its own than holding hands with them unwillingly

>> No.10902154

>>10902146
You did, even if you didn't use those exact words. I'm not going to argue semantics with you.

>> No.10902156

>>10902149
Do you know what a claim is? Prove that I claimed that touching a penis causes damage for children.

>> No.10902161

>>10902154
I'd like to see the proof. Oh right, there is none. Good show.

>> No.10902164

>>10902156
Nevermind that. Do you believe it or not believe it?

>> No.10902170

>>10902164
>Nevermind that
Yeah you do that.

>Do you believe it or not believe it?
Depends completely on the context

>> No.10902171

Tumblr is retarded. SRS is retarded.

This thread is a great example of how their arguments crumble outside of a controlled environment where people who argue against them are banned or ridiculed to death. They thrive on social manipulation and fail at backing up their claims.

Why do they put so much energy and manipulation into furthering their obviously shitty views? They must know themselves that they're wrong, surely. Or maybe it's like the story of the faux karate master who has perpetuated his lie for so long that he's began to believe it.

>> No.10902174

>>10902170

It's a 'yes' or 'no' question. Here's your context: a child is touching a penis with their hand, with their given consent, for the sexual gratification of the penis's owner, and the curiosity of the child. Is this wrong, yes or no.

>> No.10902179

>>10902118
>Ask a child if they want to know what sex is and they'll say "yes."
No they will not. Sexual precociousness is actually correlated with abuse, but not otherwise (recent media influence notwithstanding). Huh, go figure!

>No, plenty of kids want to try sex before puberty. I did.
Oh boy, more anecdotal evidence! It's so weird that rates magically increase when puberty hits and pre-puberty sex rates are practically nonexistent!

>what's wrong with having oral sex with a consenting child?
Maybe because they can't offer consent.

> I'm not going to glorify this with a response.
Right. Because it's a little hard to argue against science.

Read up about human development, just a little bit. It should be obvious why kids shouldn't be involved. Seriously, think of them like little retarded humans.

>> No.10902181

>>10902171
Most people don't have degrees in psychology, so it's hard for them to back up their views.

>> No.10902188

>>10902174
Depends, is it African or European?

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>>10902181
>implying that a degree in psychology magically makes your claims valid

>> No.10902198

>>10902195

Here's something most people don't have, as well, sweetie

*whips out 14-incher*

You know what to do.

>> No.10902195

>>10902171
The thing is, most people aren't pedophiles like you. So please just suppress your urges, keep your hands off of our children, and deal with it.

>> No.10902196

>>10902179
Socialization develops via interaction. Do you even psychology?

>> No.10902199

>>10902192
It doesn't, it just lets you know what you are talking about instead of relying on experts to tell you what is good and bad for children.

>> No.10902201

>>10902174
Define child.

>> No.10902203

>>10902192
>Implying being a "ephebophelic" neet magically makes your claims valid

>> No.10902206

>>10902198
Yeah, most people have 12 inch rulers. Don't see how that's relevant, though.

>> No.10902209

>>10902201

A 8-year-old.

>> No.10902210

>>10902201
A person between the growth stages of baby and adolescence.

>> No.10902214

>>10902174

Is it a European or Canadian swallow?

>> No.10902217

>>10902209
Define 8.

>>10902210
Define person.

>> No.10902218

>>10902217

Define 'define.'

>> No.10902221

>>10902196
That does nothing to justify his argument. The whole point is that prepubescent sex is premature by the very biological function of puberty. Also, socialization occurs under very broad conditions because people are inseparable from the social context. That said, why is the general trend still asexuality in childhood and higher rates of abuse amongst sexual precocious kids? Fuck, I don't even know what your point is.

>> No.10902222

>>10902217
define define

>> No.10902228

>>10902221

>The whole point is that prepubescent sex is premature by the very biological function of puberty.

So? Are you saying that anything which defies the 'natural' way of things is wrong? This is called an appeal to nature, and it's a shit argument.

Our natural default stance on romance is to rape the most sexually-fit female, and to kill any other suitors who would challenge us. Is the current model of romance unnatural, then?

>> No.10902225

>>10902214
>European or Canadian swallow

Neither, African swallow.

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>>10902203
>implying that I even made an argument in this "debate"
>implying that you're not making a butthurt strawman argument right now

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10902230

>>10902217

>> No.10902231

>>10902221
Half of the point is trolling. The statement's true but I'm going nowhere with it.

>> No.10902236

>>10902195
Epic argument, sister! You crushed that nerd with your awesome intellectual power!

>> No.10902241

>>10902210
>>10902209
Define the stages between baby and adolesecence

>> No.10902246

>>10902242
A small rod-shaped object not longer than 4 cm.

>> No.10902242

>>10902241

Define THIS.

*whips out cock*

>> No.10902253

>>10902246
Iceburned.

>> No.10902251

>>10902246

You need to get the latest Webster, sweetheart.

*cums in your hair*

*dick is 20 inches*

>> No.10902269

>>10902242
Child-like. Compatible with lolis.

>> No.10902266

>>10902228
>Are you saying that anything which defies the 'natural' way of things is wrong?
It depends on what it is. When it involves the harm of children: yes. Just what is your argument, exactly? You're talking about sex with consenting kids, but kids cannot give consent by their given capabilities, nor is there any evidence that they would find sexual activity pleasurable.

>Our natural default stance on romance is to rape the most sexually-fit female, and to kill any other suitors who would challenge us
Completely unfounded. Humans have survived on social structure and cohesion for over 50,000 years. Rape and murder is not default.

Stop thinking about fucking kids for a second and go read something.

>> No.10902280

>>10902266
>nor is there any evidence that they would find sexual activity pleasurable.

Not the fag you're arguing with, faggot, but...what? There's a shitload of evidence that children find masturbation enjoyable, and can have orgasms even before their teen years. Why don't you look that shit up.

>> No.10902286

>>10902283

eyes

>> No.10902283

>>10902266

>but kids cannot give consent by their given capabilities,

Yes they can.

>nor is there any evidence that they would find sexual activity pleasurable.

I can show you diagrams detailing the fact that children have nervous systems.

>Completely unfounded. Humans have survived on social structure and cohesion for over 50,000 years. Rape and murder is not default.

I don't actually know what humans did 50,000 years ago, and it's completely irrelevant anyway. If you would take your ego out of your eye's you'd realize I'm using it as an example to show that the 'natural way' is not automatically the best way, and is often the worst way. Which is why it's not the current way.

>> No.10902285

>>10902236
It's the truth though. You can justify why it's okay for you to stick your penis into my little sister all you want, but the majority of us aren't going to agree with you simply because we don't have the same desires as you.

>> No.10902288

>>10902285
Desires are not actions.

>> No.10902292

>>10902285

You're probably 'trolling.' Even if you're not, there's no point trying to convince someone like you.

>> No.10902295

>>10902283
>Yes they can.

Prove it.

>> No.10902302

>>10902285
I'm not even a pedophile. I'm just calling you out on being a dumb cunt.

>> No.10902301

>>10902295

An adult asks a child if they want to have sex. The child either already knows what sex is, or is told on the spot, and says yes. The child has given consent.

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>>10902285
>stick your penis into my little sister
So that's what this is about? You have a cuckold fetish? Oh geez, it can't be helped I guess! Where is she?

>> No.10902313

>>10902280
I was going to amend that very statement since I meant with another person. Masturbation is non-issue because they're doing it to themselves. I remember reading an article about what you mention, but it seemed to be anecdotal.

>>10902283
>Yes they can.
Jesus christ. If a person is incapable of hypothetical-deductive logic, they can't consent to anything. Children can only think inductively, which means any ideas they form about sex occurs AFTER the fact. This is not fucking consent.

>If you would take your ego out of your eye's you'd realize I'm using it as an example to show that the 'natural way' is not automatically the best way
You should come up with better analogies and understand that even though the "natural way" isn't always the best way, this doesn't mean the "unnatural way" is. Do you really think that a lazy accusation of an appeal to nature somehow supports your argument? I've already given you the starting point: Piaget's theory of cognitive development. You still have not provided any evidence to support your position. I'm done.

>> No.10902309

>>10902285
I bet you think that all men are secretly rapists too. Fucking moron.

>> No.10902319

>>10902313
No, it's not a non-issue, because you blatantly stated that children were incapable of feeling sexual pleasure. It's a separate argument from the main pedophilia one in this thread. And treated as such, it's wrong.

>> No.10902321

>>10902313

>Jesus christ. If a person is incapable of hypothetical-deductive logic, they can't consent to anything. Children can only think inductively, which means any ideas they form about sex occurs AFTER the fact. This is not fucking consent.

Where's the proof of this? One psychologist's opinion isn't proof, especially when it's contested by every other psychologist ever.

Also, what a generalization.

>> No.10902324

>>10902313

>this doesn't mean the "unnatural way" is

No one said this. Stop making irrelevant arguments.

>> No.10902329

>>10902292
>>10902302
>>10902305
Awww did I make the poor little pedos upset?

>>10902309
When did I imply that? Of course there is nothing wrong with fantasizing. What worries me is how these people want to touch actual children, while making up excuses about how there is nothing wrong with doing so.

>> No.10902336

>>10902329

>What worries me is how these people want to touch actual children,

I have no attraction to children. You can argue for someone's rights without holding their views yourself. Not all supporters of gay marriage are gay. Abraham Lincoln wasn't a slave.

>> No.10902344

>>10902321
>Where's the proof of this?
His experiments perhaps? Brain scans, maybe? You can be a scientist too! Go outside and present an absurd if-then statement. They won't understand it.

>specially when it's contested by every other psychologist ever.
Now where's the proof of THIS? Piaget practically led the field of human development. Granted some of his theories under/overestimated childhood abilities, but they're pretty spot on in terms of general developmental trends.

>> No.10902353

>>10902344

>Brain scans, maybe?

Do you know how brain scans work? Hint: the output isn't something like "RESULTS INDICATE THAT THIS BRAIN DOESN'T POSSESS THE ABILITY FOR DEDUCTIVE REASONING." Life isn't a sci-fi film.

>> No.10902355

>>10902344

>Now where's the proof of THIS?

I already linked it in this thread. Go re-read my responses. It will do you good since you're bringing up the same points I've refuted over and over again.

>> No.10902368

>>10902329
What worries me more is that there are braindead women running around (ie: you) dragging down modern society as a whole. I'm not here to argue for pedophiles as much as you'd love to believe it to fit your own agenda, but you said it yourself: they're rare. Your kind is sadly becoming common, and thus I believe you to be more harmful to society.

>> No.10902372

>>10902089
I'm pretty sure the knife to the throat was a whole lot more threatening than the penis in the mouth. Isn't it funny how the later is considered worse and more traumatizing? Do you even realize how illogical it is?

>> No.10902377

>>10902372
Welcome to feminist society, enjoy your stay.

>> No.10902379

>>10902372

But it's really icky and probably tasted bad. The knife was just cold.

>> No.10902391

>>10902353
Comparative brain scans. Are you happy now?

>>10902355
The section in the Wikipedia article is not "every other psychologist ever", nor does it render his theory unusable. Read what comes after what you quoted. Of course some kids develop earlier than later, and some learn better than others and it's all very complicated, but the fact remains that the majority of children who have not reached puberty are incapable of formal thought.

>> No.10902395

>>10902391

>but the fact remains that the majority of children who have not reached puberty are incapable of formal thought.

That's not what it says.

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10902400

Guys, can I just fucking look at my loli without some dumb feminist asshole sending me death threats? Please?

>> No.10902404

>>10902400

Cute picture, dude.

>> No.10902411

This thread is comedy gold

>> No.10902414
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>>10902411
It should have just been about cute 2D lolis, though.

>> No.10902421

>>10902368
I do admit that I typed some stupid things in this thread out of anger, but I am tired of these pedophiles telling me that I'm "brainwashed by society" just because I find their views repulsive.

I can't think of any situation where it's okay for an adult to have sex with a child. My conclusion is that these people are just selfish, they don't care about the child's feelings, and they just want to have something to ejaculate into.

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>>10902400
I'm probably the "dumb feminist asshole" you're talking about, and even I like loli. I just want these pedophiles who talk about real children to stay out of here and go back to tor or wherever they usually hang out.

>> No.10902448

>>10902440
But there's nothing wrong with pedophilia.

>> No.10902499

>>10902395
It doesn't seem to say anything to the contrary. It only proposes other explanations that fill in the gaps or challenge the weaknesses in his theories. His experiments show that kids before their teens can solve problems but only through trial-and-error while older kids (teenagers) can systematically work out the details which suggest formal, abstract thinking.

If there's something to the contrary, post it. I'm tired and drunk and I'm in no mood to go through all that shit.

>> No.10902697

>>10900539

Should I get my hopes up and assume you're going to scan that?

>> No.10902721 [DELETED] 

Why have naughty things with a loli?
Why not be content with hugging them, kissing their cheeks and keeping safe in your arms?

>> No.10902722

Why do naughty things with a loli?
Why not be content with hugging them, kissing their cheeks and keeping them safe in your arms?

>> No.10903299

>>10902421
Brainwashed people don't realize they are brainwshed.

>> No.10903309

>>10902421
>these people are just selfish, they don't care about the child's feelings, and they just want to have something to ejaculate into
Do you seriously believe this bullshit?

>> No.10903763

Man, this thread derailed into pedophiles trying to argue logically as best as they can, and trolls taking easy bait.

>> No.10904084

>>10903763
Pedophiles feel good when they get the chance to speak the truth. The only person who's really bothered is the person mindlessly speaking out against the EVIL PEDOS and the people who wanted to keep this thread on-topic.

>>10902440
All you did was further derail the thread. People who like loli but hate pedophiles (which really just comes off as an attempt to make themselves look morally superior) cause more problems than anyone else in these threads. Hell, I don't even like real children the way I do 2D children, but I'm definitely a pedophile, and anyone else who's sexually attracted to 2D children is too. It's like masturbating to 2D dicks and claiming you don't like dicks. It's just plain stupid.

>> No.10904409

Would it be immoral to go back to the past and rape yourself as a child?

>> No.10904632

>>10902499
>kids before their teens can solve problems but only through trial-and-error
Do people who age slower grow out of that slower? Because despite being smart, I rarely solved math problems the proper way in school.

>> No.10905103

Lolis are gross

>> No.10906573

>>10904409
It would be just counted as masturbation since technically you only pleasuring your both self not another person.

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