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[Anonymous No.]

Old thread:
>>10839779

You know the drill, talk about STGs & Touhou. Chat with fellow players, blog about your progress, plead for help on problematic spots, and so on.

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Looking for a stream? Instead of filling the thread with requests, you can check out this page for currently live Touhou players:
http://stgrillz.appspot.com/

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New challenges for this thread!

Scoring challenge: Score in TD Normal/Lunatic Stage 4 without Bombs or Trance!
1. Every shot-type is welcome
2. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
3. Replays will be required for posts with scores.


Special challenge: SA Extra without vertical movements.
1. Go for maximal progress in SA Extra without vertical movement.
2. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
3. Replays will be required for posts with scores.
4. The runs will be ranked by progress > score.
5. Every shot-type is welcome.

STG challenge: V-V (V-Five)
1. Tiebreaker on clears will be score > lives.
2. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
3. Either screenshots or .inps will be required for posts with scores.

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Previous challenge winners
Scoring: IN stage 6A on Normal/Lunatic.
Normal - 441,091,500 >>10843643 (Youmu)
Lunatic - No entries

Special: MoF Lunatic Pacifism.
Hina's second nonspell - 12,845,60 (ReimuC)

STG: P47-Aces
698,870 >>10885886

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You have time for until this thread ends (i.e. it hits the bump limit).

Congratulations to the winners, and thanks for participation, everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

first lel

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first kek

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3rd

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3rd for homu

[Anonymous No.]

Which touhou game is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.]

How to beat this boss?

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>>10889914
Looks like you forgot to hold shift.

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>>10889914
>lost 1 life before stage 4

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>>10889906
Dodonpachi

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>>10889927
don't be silly, only the newer donpachi games have touhous

[Anonymous No.]

>>10889906
東方風星妖精 - Perfect Awesome Trio

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>>10889906
Black Ops II

[Anonymous No.]

If EOSD takes place over a night, then how come stage 2 and stage 3 take place in the daytime? Stage 2 is ambiguous, but it is bright, but Stage 3 begins in the clouds, and they're bright, unless the Scarlett Fog is illuminating it.

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>>10889906

Battletoads: Perfect Blooming Flower.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14744.0.html

Everyone, go play this! It's really good.

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>>10889935
Yeeesss.

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for the TD challenge will I get disqualified if I die and trance?

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>>10889980
Shooting during death-trance is disallowed. You can, however, die. Just don't shoot during the trance.

I forgot to specify several things. My apologies.

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>>10889967
I liked the UFO one, it was pretty good practice for the bosses. I've been wanting to play SA again, so I'll need to give this a download as well.

In the future, I'd really like to see something along the lines of stage practice for GFW. I absolutely love GFW, but it'd be so much more fun if I could just play certain stages. I'm a casual player, so I enjoy playing for hours and experimenting with the different patterns and trying to find my own scoring routes before looking up a superplay.

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>>10890002
Aye. We need a similar patch for the strongest game.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who doesn't bother with practice? I just keep playing over and over again, pushing a little further ahead each and tweaking things as I go. Its easier keep track of your progress too.

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>>10890011
Practice mode turns the game stale for me.

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>>10890011
There are plenty of people who downright refuse to use practice mode, even going as far as to say that anybody who uses practice mode is cheating. And not only that, there are still people playing STGs in the arcades who simply do not have access to practice modes or save states.

Personally, I use practice mode and boss practice if available. They're very useful tools for learning later stages, and I can actually get comfortable dealing with some late game boss patterns. I will never understand how people have fun with breaking up the game with save states, and then grinding the same couple of sections for 6 hours straight. It seems very monotonous and soulless to me, so I'll probably never resort to using save states except as a fake stage practice.

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>>10890021
>>10890011
Playing stage one over and over gets stale for me. Especially if like EoSD, it's really really long and not that interesting.

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>>10890023

I wouldn't call it cheating, its a feature Zun put in, and I don't think its cheap or anything either. I just prefer to run through the game, because you accumulate practice on lots of different areas and patterns. It takes longer, but I think you come out of it with a more general ability that can applied to most situations rather than aceing one particular part of the game. And trekking back through the game is problem for me because I like the music and watching myself get better at a part I previously found difficult. The only problem is it can be mentally draining, I usually get about two runs in before I start making silly mistakes and losing concentration, then I have to take a break.

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>>10890078

*And trekking back through the game isn't a problem for me

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>>10890011
It's the exact opposite for me.
Like 90% of my time playing Touhou is in practice mode.

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>>10890011
The best players in the world don't use practice modes... because it's not available to them in the arcades.

When a practice mode is available, top players tear through a game very quickly. For example, SIN's 7.2 billion WR in Akai Katana Shin still hasn't been toppled, and he set it just a few months after the game came out.

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>>10890078
>I wouldn't call it cheating, its a feature Zun put in

People only consider it cheating if it isn't part of the original game. Arcade games for example don't have save state support, which is why using them via emulation is considered cheating, but Touhou has stage/spell practice built into the original so it isn't.

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>>10890137

Save state is cheating on any game, it makes them far too easy.

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>>10890023
That's dumb. Practice mode is for practicing parts of the game, not to rewind and undo mistakes a la save states. Nobody is playing practice mode and pretending they're playing the game normally.

Though I'm in the same boat as >>10890011. I just prefer to re-play the whole game. Even if I'm great at stages 1-5, might as well get even better while I'm at it.

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>>10890193

Yeah, first step is clearing the stage, then each time you go back through it you improve. Its gotten that way know that I don't even have to think in most parts of EOSD, everything is automatic to me.

[Anonymous No.]

First go, might come back to it if someone beats me.
Nowhere near perfect either.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28290

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>>10890214
Can you use EoSD instead of EOSD? It's irritating me.

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>>10890354

Sure.

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>>10890354
calm your autism please

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>>10890354
Shouldn't it be tEoSD?

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>>10890403

"of" is necessary, "the" isn't, so you can leave it out.

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>>10890408
I'd say it is. It's a part of the official title and the definite article is important. You're not just talking about any old embodiment of scarlet devil, you're talking about THE embodiment of scarlet devil.

Plus it just flows better. Like band names that are plurals. People add "the" when it isn't even in their name. "I like the Pet Shop Boys" for example.

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>>10890193
Erm, no. They weren't using it to rewind and fix mistakes, but rather, using it as precise practice. Rather than playing through the entire stage or boss fight, they make a state on the parts where they have the most trouble to save the most time.

I've tried to play like that after everybody drilled it down my throat, but I just can't. I'll stick to playing with stage practice normally.

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>>10890427

The point of an abbreviation is to condense as much as you can out. "mbodiement f carlett evil" is also part of the title, but you snip them off because they're not considered important.

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>>10889927
>not superior Dodonpachi Daioujou

Daioujou is Cave's opus dei (in before Ketsui fags bitching). Daifukkatsu is easymode, and Saidaioujou has dubstep and lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeahhh Mushihimesama Futanari.

gogo damdam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Piq_IGICw9E

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0yLDOMCit8


How in the fuck?

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>>10891045
Practice. IN actually has one of the easier extra stages because it's one of the few touhou games with spell practice.

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>>10891071
And the fact that Mokou only has one hard phase (which isn't even a spell).

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>>10890723
SDOJ is infinitely better than DOJ

Any game with a loop is automatically trash.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi, just cleared normal from pcb, I'm just happy.
Hardest thing for me: Stage 4 (it took a lor of time to get through)

Funniest thing: Stage 5 and Youmu's patterns.

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>>10891641
No insincere trolling please

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>>10891913
Good Jobu

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>>10890470
I'd f the carlett evil, if you know what I mean

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>>10891913
When you guys say 'cleared' it means 1cc, right? Just curious.
Anyway, congratulations.

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>>10891928
>>10891971
thanks

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>>10891971
If he Used a continue the end of his score would have a number other than 0.

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>>10892001
And no 'Player penalty' means he cleared it without any lifes?

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>>10892020

It means he cleared it without increasing the number of lives you start with.

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I'm >>10891913
>>10892020
"player penalty" is when you increase the initial number of lives rather than the default 3. That's what I've read

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>>10891922
>>10891971
Why is this thread overpopulated with insincere shits and idiots.

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>>10892036
>>10892032
>>10892001
Thank you. When I played EoSD there was 5 lifes from the start and Player penalty *0.2

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>>10892044
Why can't you chill out, nerd

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>>10892045
Same here. I just went to options and restored default. It cleared everything up.

[Anonymous No.]

dumb game

[Anonymous No.]

dumb game

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28294

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>>10892132
>Scoring challenge: Score in TD Normal/Lunatic Stage 4 without Bombs or Trance!

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>>10892168

whoops, reading is hard

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>>10891922
But I'm serious

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Is it true that all of the bullets in EoSD are rectangular? I find it hard to believe.

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>>10892428
Are you talking about the hitbox or the sprites?

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>>10892518
The hitbox.

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>>10892557
Then I think is very possible since in order to make hitboxes for the types of bullets in EoSD a rectangle seems all its needed. Why do you find it hard to believe? (just curious)

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Oh wow. I always thought that BWR+ was a difficult game, but it turns out that I just had accel and no wait on this entire time. After trying it without accel off, I was easily able to clear it.

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>>10892724
I'd expect more "fucking bullshit" deaths from a game where the sprites are circular but the hitboxes are squares. However I've never had a death like that, every time I die it feels like its because I fucked up, rather than thinking I had dodged well and then getting hit by a corner.
>>10892849
I prefer to play with no wait on, it feels a bit too easy without it.

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>>10892856
Yeah, I left no wait on. The FPS dropping makes it feel really unintended, not like in some CAVE games where the slowdown feels intentional.

Most of the difficulty stemmed from the fact of having accel + no wait on. Autoguard, of course, is always off.

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>>10892856
>I'd expect more "fucking bullshit" deaths from a game where the sprites are circular but the hitboxes are squares.
The corners don't extend out of the sprites in most cases. What you should be noticing is a lot of "fucking miracles" while you're dodging inside bullets that are moving perfectly vertically or horizontally.

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I'll admit to being new to actually trying the Touhou games, and have been told previously to start with EoSD.
Am I correct in thinking that the hitbox of my character is just my neck? I seem to notice a number of things passing by or above me that I thought would get me. I've also just been made aware of >>10892428

[Anonymous No.]

Blue Shit Resurrection.

>those totally stock sound effects
>ugly prerendered ships instead of awesome sprites
>table music

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>>10893067
The hitbox is significantly further down than the neck.

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>>10893160
Table music?

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>>10893067
When you're unfocused, your options are horizontally aligned with your hitbox.

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>>10893176
I meant terrible. Damn overzealous autocorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

Orin's strafing non-spells are killing me.

I can't get a good angle on the diagonal danmaku.

The only spell I can reliably cap is the stage 6 midboss.

Halp.

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>>10890723

Original Dodonpachi is better than Daioujou in my opinion.

Daioujou (at least in my eyes) just screams "Fuck every other aspect of the game, we need more bullets". Seriously, only two ships? That horrendous graphic quality? There isn't even a sixth stage, for crying out loud! The battleship raid (If you can even call it that, seriously) was boring as hell and a lot of attacks were simplified. Oh yeah, and the bosses are dorky as hell. What kind of enjoyment is there in fighting Genbu?

Daifukkatsu has more bullets too, but at least they tried to up the other aspects of the game. And most of the stuff that makes it worse than the original is simply because they used Daioujou as a standard.

Oh yeah, and don't forget the Saturn port of the original either. What more could you possibly ask for?

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>>10889906

Ignore all the tasteless faggots that replied before me, obviously Crimzon Clover is the best Touhou game there is.

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>>10893357
I'd kill myself if DOJ had a sixth stage. The first loop is already dreadfully boring, I couldn't handle another stage.

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>>10893307
Practice makes perfect! Watch a replay.

>>10893357
It never needed a sixth stage. A pitifully easy first loop with five stages is enough to bore anybody.

Hell, I'm willing to bet that's the reason that anybody finds 1-ALLing DOJ even remotely difficult. I'm sure that people abort credits half way through the run because of how bloody easy that first loop is. The real challenge of DOJ is not falling asleep during the first loop. Plenty of adderall and coffee helps, I suppose.

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>>10894181
>>10894121
>>10893357
ITT, poorfags whose computers aren't good enough to emulate Daijoubu make up reasons to hate it.

Go on, now tell us about how Espgaluda is for casuals and Ketsui is overrated.

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>>10894842
>Daijoubu

You what, mate?

Also, emulating a shit. Play it on a real arcade or don't play at all. MAME's cave.c is still incomplete, particularly the sound emulation (which can throw off the CPU syncing).

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>>10894842
how the fuck can anybody have a computer that isn't good enough to emulate DOJ/Ketsui/Galuda?

no Cave game is for casuals anyway as long as you're trying to score.

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>>10894971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

My ten-year-old computer struggles to emulate a lot of Konami GX games ;_;

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wtf ZUN

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>>10894987
Glad I wasn't the only one noticing that.

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>>10894987
Quite a few other spell cards have little oddities like that too.

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>>10894987
YES.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME.

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>>10895007
Could you post the others?
I'm not really good at noticing details

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>>10894987
Can't spell Subterranean Animism without autism.

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People always say that DOJ is one of the easiest cave games, meanwhile I'm still struggling to clear the first loop.

Kill me. ;_;

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>>10894842
The poorfags are the ones that play it emulated, genius. The cool kids all own PCBs.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss my displayed hitbox. I just want to 1CC this game on normal so I never have to touch it again.

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>>10895169
Why do you push yourself like that if you don't enjoy the game?

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>>10895190
To prove to myself that I can or something like that.

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>>10895169
Why are you struggling with Normal?

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>>10895223
Because I'm a scrub and I haven't played EoSD in a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

Yoshika's 2 healing spells are so frustrating. Makes me not want to play TD at all. That and chasing UFOs all day long. I lose all motivation to keep going if 1 saturated UFO gets away. I start to understand why those 2 games are shit.

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>>10895164
The rich kids own PCBs. The cool kids play on a Japanese Xbox 360.

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>>10889906

Double Spoiler. I also like Shoot the bullet.

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>>10895055
Pick B-L
Save up 5 hypers for the huge popcorn section toward the end of stage 2, get both extends
Spam bombs through every boss' tricky pattern
???
Profit

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>>10895334
I use A-EXY because a friend told me that any other shot type was for slow kiddies. It's always 1-5 that destroys me.

His constant comments about the game being extremely easy doesn't help matters either.

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>>10895361
>any other shot type was for slow kiddies
This is why STG's aren't popular in the west. Because the core fanbase is made up of esports aspies who alienate newcomers by yelling at them for playing it the "wrong" way.

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>>10895361
Exy is the strongest but she doesn't have many bombs. B-L is another viable choice because it has a similar laser strength, a wide rapid shot (this is why you use Type B instead of A), and lots of bombs. It does move slower, but it still makes the game easier overall.

[Anonymous No.]

Would anyone be so kind to link me the vsync patch for Mountain of Faith? Thanks.

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>>10895376
Not that guy, but I'm a newcomer that plays Type A specifically because it is fast and has a linear shot. And no, I'm not doing this because I don't want to do things "right", but because I like fast ships and linear shots, and I refuse to use the wider/slow types even if they do make the games easier, and makes me bad player forever.

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>>10895325
Cool kids don't play DOJ

[Anonymous No.]

Complaining about DOJ? Shouldn't you faggots be making more 2hu waifu threads and let the people with taste talk about the good games?

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>>10895655
DOJ is easily the worst and most casual Cave game ever made. The fact that you're defending it and comparing it to 2hu only shows how much of a scrub you are.

Go play Call of Duty, idiot.

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>>10895361
Tell your friend to show you his B-S 2-ALL. A-E is the best and probably the easiest (once you have half a clue what to do in the stages anyway) but B-E is a perfectly valid shot too if you prefer a slow ship with spread. L and S are kinda shitty since they're just E with a shittier shot and laser respectively (and more bombs to compensate). A-S and B-S are probably the easiest to shitclear with, but if you plan to learn the game at all then Exy will pay off more by being the better shot type and making you need the bombs in the first place.

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>>10895710

It's like you are being ignorant on purpose

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>>10895361
Don't be friends with shmup autists

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>>10893067
Neck hitbox is for esprade.

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>>10889967
>I changed Ten Evil Stars because it's a huge wimp for a card at the end of the game. I really don't see how anyone playing Hard or Lunatic would see a big difference between playing Ten Evil Stars, and essentially doing nothing. Because you're essentially doing nothing. The boss practice is still for practice; I only significantly changed the play of one pattern that you should not need to practice ever. Is it really so important that you get to practice moving to the middle and tapping left and right a few times? Rather, does making the card actually worth playing somehow invalidate its use for practicing the reading of its bullets?

What a fucking prick. ZUN even mentions that there's a safespot in the description of the card, not to mention the entire point of a boss rush is to practice the bosses as they are in the ACTUAL GAME. If I want to dodge Ten Evil Stars without the safespot, I will. I don't want that choice forced on me though.

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>>10891933
nice

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>>10897025
>ZUN even mentions that there's a safespot in the description of the card
Aren't all the spell comments on the wiki past IN are made up.

>not to mention the entire point of a boss rush is to practice the bosses as they are in the ACTUAL GAME
Do you honestly need to practice that spell. At all.

>I don't want that choice forced on me though.
Nobody made you use the patch.

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>>10897078
>Do you honestly need to practice that spell. At all.
No, you don't, so why should I have to practice it sans safespot in this patch?

>Nobody made you use the patch.
I'm not aware of any other boss rush options.

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>>10897025
>ZUN even mentions that there's a safespot in the description of the card
All the spell comments on the wiki other than those for IN are made up.

>not to mention the entire point of a boss rush is to practice the bosses as they are in the ACTUAL GAME
You shouldn't need to practice that spell. At all.

>I don't want that choice forced on me though.
Nobody made you use the patch.

[Anonymous No.]

i dusted off my game pad, and jesus i cant even 1cc Imperishable Night.

please.

so embarrassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897947

Sorry friend, you're talent has gone. Everyone has a natural "peak". For me it was EoSD and Stage 6. I advanced quickly after starting playing the game, progressing steadily until I got to Remillia. I progressed a little of the way through her battle, however, the next day I couldn't get past Scarlett Shoot. Then, it was Curse of Vlad Tepis. Then I starting getting killed by enemies I once found easy, like Cirno and Hong Meiling. It got to the point where just kept dying due to silly things, and no matter what, I couldn't shake myself out of it. I tried playing PCB to see if a change of scenery would help. Nope, I found it even worse, the curving arrows, rolling fairies ect confused the hell out me. It seemed like a random mess of lights. It wasn't until I watched Kenichi I understood why. Once you get in that frame of mind, its impossible to come back from, you'll just keep losing and losing. The sad thing is that you are still addicted to the game, but cannot play, so you become a secondary. Its difficult to come to terms with but I'm not going to sugar coat it.

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>>10897976
b-but, i can beat it if i drop one life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897978

Nah, I was just kidding, you can back into it. My story is true though, some people just cannot come back from a loss or just lose their ability to do something.

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>>10895376
I wonder if the community is the same towards new players in the East? If somebody new is getting torn to shreds in an arcade for a couple of weeks playing STGs, do they berate them like they do to streamers in the west?

>>10895388
I heard she was the best for chaining, and I don't want to be insulted for being slow. ;_; I'll try B-L in my spare time, but I'll have to keep it a secret from everybody. The lack of bombs on A-EXY does really throw me off though. Oh, and fuck grinding the same part of a stage over and over again. I have a migraine from hearing that one single strand of music in 1-5.

>>10895730
He won't, because A-EXY = smart people shot type, so he says. All of my practice states are made using A-EXY, and I only use A-EXY in the rare occasion that I do a full run. B-E seems like a really fun shot type though. On my first throwaway credit, I used B-EXY. Unfortunately, I was stopped shortly after.

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>>10898150

I can imagine Japanese people taking the "wise master" approach and berating them, whacking them with a stick and stealing their food. The new player feels he's not getting anywhere, until Hidori "Asu" Takeshi, master of the arcade and general bully with a regeant haircut challenges him to a game. The new player defeats him using the inner strength his master gave him, whilst his master sits a rafter overlooking the event and chuckles to himself and remembers when he was a new player.

In reality though, they're probably apathetic towards new players, to many of us, we regard our culture as toxic to the niche one we have adopted.

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>>10897947
It's okay. I used to be able to make it to Stage 6 in SA only dying once on Orin.

Now I can't even make it past Stage 3 on Normal. I haven't played in nearly two years though, really demotivating. I don't even remember how I was able to get so far.

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>>10898015

At least they had talent to begin with, the farthest I've gotten in a shmup was EoSD 5th stage on normal

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>>10898256

I don't think you need talent in EoSD, you just need concentration. The thing about EoSD is that you can say you need to do "x" in "x" situation, its based more on pattern recognition and prediction than pure skill. This is why you can fail at it so miserably after doing so well, because a large part of it is concentration and mentality. I have a terrible tendency to panic and freak out, which in a game like EoSD where you only have think clearly is a major handicap. I feel my fingers go numb and I often just freeze watch a bullet fly straight into my character. When I started playing I had none of these problems. As for PCB, I can't even get past stage 4 without bombing, there's just too much going on.

[Anonymous No.]

I think that my main problem is losing the motivation to keep on playing after an especially shit run. As somebody who mostly plays on Normal and Hard, it's very easy to get discouraged when everybody around you is pretty much an STG god.

After dying on Stage 2 or 3, all I can do now is get up and walk away in disgust.

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>>10898293

Most people aren't very good at it, they're just not inclined to say so. And on 4chan, there's always going to be someone better than you. I'm the same though, I'm a perfectionist, if things don't go my way in the first three stages, I can't play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898304
>And on 4chan, there's always going to be someone better than you
but i'm the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898336
I'll show you best!
*whips out scores*

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>>10898341

Please superplay all over my face

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>>10898345

What do they mean when they say "shake"? I see a lot, but I've never had sex I don't what they're talking about.

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>>10898353

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>>10898440

I'm sorry, I just can't visualise that. Do they mean moving along with the penis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898462
You know when you're sick, and you're very cold, you start to move. That's shaking.

In the present case, she's shaking from involuntary muscle movement. But it's the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898476

Oh, thank you! I don't know about all the subtleties of sex.

[Anonymous No.]

That took way longer than it needed to.

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28329

I just did a run and uploaded it for anyone interested. I'm still relatively new to Touhou. It ends abruptly on Remillia's first spell. Its with Reimu A on Normal.

Everything runs smooth in Stage 1, slight hitch at Demarcation, I meant to stop shooting and leave Rumia to make more blue bullets so I could launch my score up, but I accidentally beat her.

Stage 2 runs fine without any problems.

Stage 3 is where things start to fall apart. I struggle immensely with Hong Meiling, especially Colourful Rain and Extreme Colour Typhoon. I only actually die on ECT, but its a spellcard I panic a lot on.

Stage 4 goes OK, I only bomb twice, once because I let the books that fire green bullets force me into a corner and again because I panic at the books with the white fairies. I then bomb again at the final wave of three white fairies. Patchouli herself went terrible for me. First, I get killed by the first non-spell card because I panic and run into bullet. I die again at Agni Shrine for the same reason. Then I bomb thinking the spellcard was going to run out of time (I needed the power items) but, it ends meaning I bombed for nothing. It goes fine again until (Lava Cromarch?) in which I have to death bomb, but then lose a life anyway. Mercury Poison goes fine.

In Stage 5, I lose a life due to stupidity. It goes fine again until Sakuya's mid-boss, in which I lose 2 lives stupidly in her first spell.

Then I get completely raped by Sakuya and come out of it with no bombs or lives. I survive up until Remillia in which I get killed in the first second of her first attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898742
Nice blog, dude. Good thing you bumped the thread so everyone knows all about you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898742
Why would you even post that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898770

Yeah, because uploading a video with no personal details attached and discussing a run of a game in a thread designed to discuss runs of said game is blogging. The bump was deserved, I hoped someone else would post something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898789

Oh no, I destroyed the board by sharing something!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898742

OP here, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898742

Fucking newfag secondaries on /jp/.

>>10898792

Yes, it was blogging. No-ones gives two fucks about your shitty run.

>>10898798

You invite casuals to this board. That's enough reason to leave and never come back.

>>10898804

Haha!

[Anonymous No.]

hello irc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898822

Its not IRC he's just a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898813

It disgusts me how some people act on this board. "Oh anon, why are you staring at me so lewdly!" threads are fine, but someone who shares something and provides a concise summary is attacked like that? He didn't so anything wrong in my opinion, beside bumping, but its easily done. And I've played this game long enough to know that its always secondaries who protest about this stuff the loudest. Its always useful when someone provides a replay, because no matter how long you've been playing you can always learn something new. As long as it's not inane garbage, I don't really care. We need need posters who are willing to put effot in to their posts, and not retards like this who just hang about here to jump on people when they do something wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898857

Dude, just stop!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898770
>>10898813
>>10898789
Now I'm downloading the demo just to spite these aspies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898857
This is true, it's never the good players who get all up in arms about shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898868

This is getting silly now.

[Anonymous No.]

Left: Touhou secondaries
Right: Actually STG fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898868
>>10898878

Dude stop bumping the thread no-one gives a shit about your blog.

[Anonymous No.]

I figured I'd try out 2hu on a joypad, as my acquaintance left his wired X-Box 360 controller (yes I know it's shit) lying around.

Is there any way I can rebind the movement keys to the directional pad? I'm not really a fan of using a joystick, especially one as piss-poor as the 360's, and the game isn't detecting it nor the triggers.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of EoSD, what's the magic trick to get it run fine? Without vsync it gives me 2000 fps, with vsync the controls have a lag. The "Limit to 60 fps" option from custom.exe doesn't do a butt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898890
The vsync patch works fine for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898895
Ah there was such a thing. Thanks. Seems to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898857
What the fuck do you want us to say? All he did was tell us about a run he had that didn't even clear. He didn't ask for advice and no one asked him to share it.
It was a completely worthless post and the fact that it bumped the thread wasn't the worst thing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898868

download it twice to make them twice as mad lol ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898871

Many people who have been playing for a while enjoy watching new players because it takes them back to when they were first playing, they like spotting when someone makes a mistake and think "Oh, I used to do that!", and because they like finding where people improve. And I just like watching replays of anyone's to see how different people play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898916
So ignore it. If I complained about every post that didn't interest me I'd flood the fucking board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898871
That's because there aren't any good players in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898924
I ignore posts that don't interest me in threads that don't interest me. I'd like some semblance of quality in the ones I actually give a shit about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898920
And some people are dicks who don't want to help new players out by watching their replays. I sent one of my replays to somebody several times but I'm certain he never even watched it. Asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898482
haha, virgin looser

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898857
>As long as it's not inane garbage

But it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898918
lol i have a vps with 2 TB storage im gonna fill it ur gonna get so fukin rekt nerds

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898951

A replay isn't inane garbage. That's like saying anyone posting a video or stream when no-one asked them to is inane garbage. You could say most of this thread is inane garbage, but it didn't get the reaction he did. I wonder why that is?

[Anonymous No.]

This has been bugging me for a while: why do people censor their high scores? Privacy? Shame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898920
In my experience, a lot of good Western players don't like to help new players. And by good, I mean the people that can clear stuff on Lunatic effortlessly, and play for score.

Every time I've asked for advice, I always get some condensing bullshit and a whole bunch of :V. I wish I could get involved in the community, but I'm so restricted with my skill level. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898920
I wish I could say that. I look at replays from 3 1/2 years ago of mine and am like "I still do that mistake". I was and still am an absolutely terrible player. if you make posts like these, please post about people who actually improve. you don't want to know the shit I am pulling when I play.

that said, you guys need to calm hte fuck down. he posted about a run? do you know how many times I do that? every fucking time when I am going for something serious. I feel like it's normal.and that way you don't even have to watch the replay to see where he fucked up. be a little more tolerant towards new players or they'll turn into secondaries or tertiaries like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898920
I wish I could say that. I look at replays from 3 1/2 years ago of mine and am like "I still do that mistake". I was and still am an absolutely terrible player. if you make posts like these, please post about people who actually improve. you don't want to know the shit I am pulling when I play.

that said, you guys need to calm hte fuck down. he posted about a run? do you know how many times I do that? every fucking time when I am going for something serious. I feel like it's normal.and that way you don't even have to watch the replay to see where he fucked up. be a little more tolerant towards new players or they'll turn into secondaries or tertiaries like you.

>>10898972

different reasons. some people do it, because it would probably reveal who they are. some have very high scores that only a few in the western community have and don't want to be recognized. others do it because their scores are terrible and they're ashamed of them. I see not harm in hiding them. it's not like you actually care about my high scores, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898963
I've never seen anyone upload and post a video of them not clearing or achieving something to these threads. Streams are entertainment. That was just a shitty pointless blog post bringing the thread, in the post itself and the reaction to it, a lot closer to the bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898972
So ppl dont know how shitty you actually are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898969

I don't approve of hounding for help, I've been asked for help, but sometimes I don't through fear I'll bad advice. However, many Western players are protective of "their territory", the more people who get good at Touhou, the less admired they become, which is bullshit, you should the game because you like it and go for high scores because you want to, not because you want to be admired.

>>10898979

He probably did want help or something, but he didn't bother asking. And why are you concerned about the thread itself? It was almost dead anyway, all's he's done is brought it back up again. Any way, you can class a replay under entertainment. Its not like he was overconfident about his skill, he openly admitted it wasn't very good. Maybe someone would watch it and say "oh, I'll watch for that next time", and he actually did do some things a relatively new player wouldn't know about, like bombing on Stage 2 at the beginning to collect all the items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898969
You want advice? Practice makes perfect :V

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898972
Secrecy, mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898995
If he wanted help he should have asked for it. The thread wasn't near dead, it was on page 3. Why would a new player watch a replay of someone who didn't even clear looking for tips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898969
For the record, the actually good people from IRC never spammed the emoticon ":V". I've always assumed the people doing that are some non-Touhou players. Or at least not very good ones at that.

In case you're really interested in advice, you should ask the good people who actually score. - They can be a bit quirky about stuff, but they also are quite nice people and generally willing to offer help.

I'd suggest trying to form your own routes first, though. Learning stuff by yourself is one of the most enjoyable experiences in these games, at least for me. But in case you really want advice, try asking around in the IRC channels, the actually good players tend to rarely post longer replies in these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898969
People have asked me for advice several times but I usually don't know what to say. Nearly everything is completely obvious if you just watch a replay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898969
I know there are a lot of condescending :V:V spammers, but there are plenty of nice players, too. It's really a mixed community, ignore those qualities of others that you don't like.

>>10899007
Shame.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing one of the older lunatic mode touhoumon games. I don't know if my soul can take it. I'm 23 hours in and stuck at Cirno's gym. I made the wrong choices in touhous and grinding level 45 touhous on level 20s is far more painful than I ever remember pokemon being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899074
Wrong thread. Thanks for bumping it though I'm being le ironic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898979
One of the main points of these threads is to blog about your progress, regardless of what you're trying to achieve. Please be a bit more polite. Worrying about the bump limit is also silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899051

Because they'll have the same play style? He got up to Remillia, someone who's just started would be fine with that. It isn't like he was completely shit anyway, he didn't have a terrible score and the parts he didn't slip up on he played quite well, most of his death were obviously down to panic, plus he wasn't always at the bottom of the screen. If he controlled his nerves and played like he did when he wasn't nervous, he could have easily 1cc'd it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899116

I mean, what kind person gets through Stage 6 up to Remillia without dying or bombing once but dies on Extreme Colour Typhoon? You have put some effort into being that stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899123
Accidents happen. It's good to see that he didn't throw his run there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899130

Its obvious he fell apart at Sakuya. She completely raped him, but most his deaths were down to what I assume was panicking, because then some of the harder none spells he did fine on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899102
Looks like I should read the OP more often. I didn't care about what he was trying to achieve, nor the fact that he didn't manage it. It was the post itself that pissed me off.

>>10899116
I don't see what having the same play style has to do with anything and I also don't see how you came up with the fact that all new players have the same play style. Regardless, if a new player wanted to learn how to do the spells, watching someone bomb and die a lot to stages 4 + 5 and not reach any of Remilia's spells is not a good way to do so. If said new player just wanted the fastest way to clear by bombspamming everything, watching a non-clear won't help with that either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899147

So? Like I said, he did still did a lot good stuff, especially on Stage 1 and 2 and he got lots of points. He was quite aggressive to, he didn't just stay at the bottom of the screen all the time. He obviously knows how to do it, there was a reason he was mid-screen during the fight with Sakuya, a new person to the game wouldn't know Sakuya's bullets expand to wall you.

But, I suppose he wasn't to know that, although his post is legit within this thread. How can someone posting a replay piss you off that much? Maybe tell him to go back to /a/ or something, but having full on autism fit about it is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899178
His post pissed me off because it was pointless and solely for attention.
I'm not saying that his replay would be completely useless to watch, I'm saying new players would be better off watching better replays. Most new players don't expect to clear the first time they reach stage 5 and I've never seen anyone take longer than 2 attempts at Sakuya to learn how to approach her attacks on Normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899219

Really? I've never some one do in less than 2 attempts, most people just bomb their way through it. How do you know solely for attention, what attention could you possibly get from posting what he knew was a bad run. Half the posts in this thread are pointless, no-one kicked off about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899245
I couldn't even get past stage 3 when I first picked up EoSD. :X But back then I had no prior STG experience.

This guy just comes in and 1shots almost everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899219
>2 attempts

Man, first I see people tear up DDP in a few attempts, and now this. I might as well just end myself at this point, because after putting nearly 60 hours into DDP and still being unable to chain the entire first loop makes me feel absolutely shitty. It's almost as if everybody learns faster than I can.

I mean Jesus fucking Christ, just two week ago, some guy started playing IaMP and he's already ten times better than I am. This is a useless blogpost and I'm sorry for my bad grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899258

It baffles me how someone who is perfectly comfortable being that up close with the kunai fairies on Stage 3, can get through Eternal Meek no problem and the wave of fairies on stage 6 that fire the ripples could have trouble with Agni Shrine and even most of Sakuya's attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899245
From what I've seen most new players barely use their bombs. Why would he post what he knew was a bad run, when not asking for advice, other than for attention?

>>10899258
It should be fairly obvious that this wasn't his first run.

>>10899270
I didn't say they were competent at the attacks, I said they figured out how to approach them, please don't give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899281

Like I said, I don't know his motives, but I'm assuming help was implied. Or he just wanted to share. Its not like you can gain anything or any attention while anon anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899284
That's also my point.

This guy is clearly not talented, or he wouldn't be dying to Extreme color typhoon. So either he has STG experience, in which case he should have easily been able to 1cc, or he has already practiced a lot, in which case, why post about your run and not ask for advice or not wait until you actually 1cc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899288
I'd have been perfectly fine if he'd listed his weak spots (the places he mentioned don't count since he said they were all due to stupidity) and asked for help. If he made, or makes, a blog post about his clear I would have, and still will, congratulate(d) him.
You can get still get attention when anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

u guyz suck lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899297
>This guy is clearly not talented, or he wouldn't be dying to Extreme color typhoon.

maybe he just messed up lol really lol like seriously lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899358
top lel

[Anonymous No.]

Note to morons: You don't get to say you "play on Lunatic" when you restart 15+ times on stage one.

Streamers please take note.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899410
If you want a perfect run you have to start with a perfect stage 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899270

Could you get to Stage 3 on your first go without bombing or continuing? I'm guessing not, but now you can, which means you got better. Which means you can STILL get better. You just have practice, practice, practice. On and on.

I am not talented at STG's either, and I was one of those people you saw desperately asking for an answer on how to do it, but no-one could give me one because there is no answer. You just have to keep doing it. You'll get there in the end.

Besides, play Touhou because you love dodging bullets, it doesn't matter how good you are at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899410
I've seen some of the best players in the world restart 15+ times on stage one.

[Anonymous No.]

So what did you do after clearing all the games on normal with one character?
Did you do other characters, go for hard, go for lunatic, extras, phantasm, practise normal scoring? So many options.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899489
Whatever you find most fun, mister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899489
I did all of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899480

I can understand if you're going fo a world score or something, but I like players who take the situation and rise to it. I like dying on Stage 1 (on Hard, not good enough for Lunatic yet), it gives me a sense of urgency.

>>10899489

I can't play a new difficulty until I've 1cc'd difficulty with all the characters. I aim to complete lunatic EoSD, I can't play a new game until I've done it, which is why after 6 months I've played one Touhou game ;_;

I had a quick go of PCB though, it seems harder to me despite what people say. There's a lot of randomness in it. I got killed on the first stage because a fairy appeared in my location.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899489
I started trying to perfect normal runs, raged a lot and got bored of doing that. Didnt feel like learning extra modes so I went for hard modes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899489
extras, as of now i've 1ccd every game on normal, every extra cept the pc98s and koishi, and hard 1cced 6, 7 and 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899489
I started playing the Extra modes, after which I completely skipped hard and worked for Lunatic 1cc's. After that I started to work on scoring on the lower difficulties and Extras, since I like looking into little things and condition scoring more than the survival gamble. (or I'm just not good enough for the actually difficult modes) Nowadays I just do whatever I feel like.

I suggest doing something that feels good. Try around with several types of scoring, different difficulties and conditions. Something probably stands out for you, it usually does.

[Anonymous No.]

Is defeating the midboss very quickly for the extra enemies more advantageous, or is keeping them alive a grazing better? On one hand, most people seem to graze, but on the other, more enemies = more power and score items, so you could use POC earlier. Plus, score items are the multiplier of graze points. That's not taking into consideration the amount of star items you get due to the increased amount of bullets through rank. If you have a high enough rank, its possible to get 20,000+ points from demarcation with the blue homing bullets.

Also, on EoSD does focusing increase damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899608

>20,000

20,0000 sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899601
Extras and then Lunatic/other characters sounds like probably something I'll go for, after a brief pause. I already did PCB's extra and phantasm before touching the other games, so 1cc'ing them after that was quite trivial.

Mostly I'm interested in the dialogue and relationships of the characters, for 4koma ideas. So I'll draw something next and play some more later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899608
>Is defeating the midboss very quickly for the extra enemies more advantageous
This is about EoSD stage 1? I'll assume so.

For difficulties under Hard where Rumia has no midboss spellcard, you'll want to kill her as fast as possible. You can also hug Rumia during the noncard for some extra graze while also damaging her, but the positioning is surprisingly tight, and I wouldn't recommend it as the first thing to learn. For Hard and Lunatic, same thing applies: you'll want to finish her off somewhat quick. You can also graze the spellcard with the safespot, but it's also somewhat tricky to learn and the outcome isn't so large that you should be wondering about it yet. Just speedkill and graze as much as possible, for now.

>Also, on EoSD does focusing increase damage?
There are no possible locations in the game that I could think of where you can unfocus and hit the boss with every projectile you shoot. The shot itself doesn't change, but the option placement changes so you'll certainly be dealing more damage when focusing. ReimuB has the highest damage output if shotgunning the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899672

Thanks. I've been killing all the mid-bosses as quick as possible whilst still grazing as much as I can, but there comes a pint where you have to close so you get as close as possible. Most of this stuff becomes irrelevant for me after stage 3 anyway, its just during the early stages it counts. With rank, I don't really notice any significant increase in difficulty beyond stage 3, aside from the odd stray fast moving bullet added in, but its definitely noticeable during the first stages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899608
>Is defeating the midboss very quickly for the extra enemies more advantageous, or is keeping them alive a grazing better?
I like to graze the fuck out of stage 2 midboss but every other one I finish off quickly

[Anonymous No.]

I tried MoF after a year of not playing any of the games and made it to Kanako without any problems. I still have no idea how to beat her, though.

Could someone be so kind as to spoonfeed me and link a replay that show's how it's done?

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20872822
STG future. ZUN should try this technology instead of the unresponsive kinect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899856
Not gonna give you a link because finding a replay is as simple as using google.

For every spell, half the bullets are homing, half are not. Just reposition yourself somewhere far from where you wont be standing after each wave of bullets (notice I said wave, not spell).

Altetnatively, bomb each time bullets come close to you for every spell and unlock practice mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10899867
My arms would hurt like fuck after few hours.

[Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU No.]

Has anyone else played Armed 7? I've been really getting into it lately.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the hardest touhou?

[Anonymous No.]

Playing EoSD, I got stuck moving left during Sakuya. It was just another turd run but that is the first time that's happened. At least I managed to beat my old score just before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900413
SA or UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10897025
>in the description of the card
ZUN doesn't write the wiki's card descriptions for any games except IN, StB and DS. He's never made a statement about the card, as far as I can tell. Regardless, even if ZUN intended for there to be a safespot, the card still has an excellent setup that makes for some great dodging, and its potential is wasted by making the obvious option to just sit and tap.
>the entire point of a boss rush is to practice the bosses as they are in the ACTUAL GAME
No, the point of boss practice is to practice the bosses as they are in the actual game. Sure, I definitely see why one might be against the idea of a forced change as long as the pattern had some value before being changed, but this is only extra content with no losses.
>If I want to dodge Ten Evil Stars without the safespot, I will. I don't want that choice forced on me though.
It's forced upon you because you will never go out of your way to dodge it without the safespot. You're a wimp.

So what about the questions posed? Is it really so important that you get to practice moving to the middle and tapping left and right a few times? Does making the card actually worth playing somehow invalidate its use for practicing the reading of its bullets?

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28337
special challenge gameover on subterranean rose

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900413
PoDD
UFO if only playing windows games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900480
yeah omg UFO is like the hardest thing ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898946

[Anonymous No.]

>>10900413
I don't know man, but Youmu is the softest Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.twitch.tv/mgfanatic

I'm just an average Touhou player, but I'll be streaming tonight.
Probably several of the games, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10898345
>>10898353
Looks like that was a literal translation. Copy paste 腰をふる犬 in youtube.
Better translation probably would have been "move my hips like a dog in heat"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10901381
Thanks for the stream. Remember to bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you get get to see the full ending and stuff if you 1CC on easy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902346
Depends on the game.

EoSD, PCB and MoF don't. IN definitely does, think SA and UFO do? Not sure about TD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902346
If you 1cc on easy, a slap to the face is the only thing you should get.

[Anonymous No.]

From seeing pics on Pixiv and shit I see ones of Sakuya being happy at being a playable character.
What? When did a new touhou game get announced? Or is it for Tasofro's "recently" announced fighter? If so how is that surprising, she's been in every fighting game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902799
It would have taken you five seconds to google "touhou 14" instead of spending who knows how long to type up that post that contributes absolutely nothing to the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10889470
SA extra challenge. no vertical is fucking bullshit. game over to the 2nd phase of philosophy of a hated person.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28347

[Anonymous No.]

Are the Seihou games supposed to be really difficult? I've just started playing about an hour ago, and I'm having a lot of trouble no missing anything past Stage 1.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing touhou for 5 minutes will turn every straigt man into a fairy, trust me, I've checked it myself.

Sorry, just by visiting this thread I feel a growing urge to suck cock. Excuse me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903120
you say that like it's a bad thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>10889967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10vvHmPaeY

Satori is my favorite 2hu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903120
There isn't anything wrong with that.

>>10903383
You should perfect the entire boss rush. I'm sure you could do it~!

By the way, what are some games that I can play in MAME that will pound me into the ground and maybe teach me how to stop being so shite at Touhou/STGs in general?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903490
>By the way, what are some games that I can play in MAME that will pound me into the ground and maybe teach me how to stop being so shite at Touhou/STGs in general?
If you want to be good at an STG, then play that STG. If you want to be good at a specific Touhou game, then play that Touhou game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10902979
They're much faster than Touhou. You might be better off trying to memorize the attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903496
Not the same person bu I want to play them all. I really do. But there's no other way, is there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903383
You're not supposed to be playing 2hu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10903496
Oh, so that's really all I can do? I've seen top players mention that you can play some games to get great shmup fundamentals and be good at all of them with a little bit of practice. Sadly, none of them mentioned what games build these so-called shmup fundamentals. But I'm guessing that I should just play what I enjoy and then the fundamentals will follow suit.

>>10903810
Yeah, the quickness of the bullets compared to Touhou scared me shitless. It's a lot of fun, and I can't find any superplays to copy, so I won't get discouraged nearly as much while playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904492
Well, I cannot say much of non-Touhou shmups, since I hardly play them. But I think with "fundamentals", they mainly speak of different basics to learn.

For example, Psikyo games tend to be memorization-heavy and some CAVE games teach aggressive streaming. Some other games would surely teach the same things, but certain might be more reliant on the single strategy.

>>10903846
Patience is a wonder. Pick a game and/or a mode, and move slowly reaching different targets for each shot. Switch games/modes once you're done with it. In three years you might be somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904492
Ketsui and Futari taught me my shmup fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10904492
Battle Garegga

[Anonymous No.]

That took way too much time.
Now, redo without vertical movement.

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>>10903383
<3

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>>10904492
Those "Top players" you mentioned are bullshit. People get at the top by playing the same game 10 hours a day everyday. I am talking about the recently invited top players at Stunfest.

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>>10906080
Of course you're not going to be top by having general fundamentals in the genre, but it'll make becoming top a whole lot easier.

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>>10906080
>People get at the top by playing the same game 10 hours a day everyday.

This is what's bullshit. All of the people invited to Stunfest play lots of different games.

[Anonymous No.]

So can someone explain to me the best way to collect Time Orbs in IN? I was just in the middle of a 1cc run (went against Kaguya instead of Eirin) and I only had one continue. I just want to beat the fucking game, I didn't plan on getting good enough to 1cc it just so I can see the ending.

Playing Reimu/Yukari, btw

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>>10906451
Use your human character as much as you can against bosses.
Also if you want to know the story but don't enjoy the games you could just read them on the wiki or something.

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>>10906451
do stages unfocused, boss fights focused

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>>10906355
I'm talking about the three relevant persons.

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>>10904626
Thank you. I've played a lot of CAVE recently, but I still have trouble with a lot of things, even on Hard in Touhou. I'll try some other non-CAVE STGs later, but I always end up getting caught up in practicing for hours on end.

>>10904785
Ketsui is fun as hell, seems more difficult than DOJBL, and a hell of a lot more difficult than DDP.

>>10905348
I was actually thinking of trying this one out for awhile now. It looks really enjoyable, but I'm not familiar with rank in the slightest.

Oh, and has anybody had a problem with DOJ not working on shmupmame v4.2? I can always play it on v2.2 if I really want to, but I'm not sure if I'd be missing out on anything by playing on v2.2 instead of v4.2

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>>10906451
Once you're in Stage 6B, you can't use continues, regardless of time. Kaguya is 1cc or bust.

Why did you think you'd be able to see the good ending with continues.

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>>10906642
Update the ROMs.

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>>10906642
>but I'm not familiar with rank in the slightest
It's not complicated once you understand what to do and not to do.
shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=3507#p3507

Real fun game. Good solid feeling of flying around and blowing things up.

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>>10906914
You can up your starting lives to 7 in options though and still get a good ending, however.

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>>10907269
I'll try this. I remember having to update them a really long time ago and I messed up all of my roms. Had to get them all over again.

>>10908257
Huh, I didn't think that there were so many resources for the game. I'll read through it a little bit and then dive straight into the game without watching any replays firstly. I'm sure that I won't learn the ranking system by just reading, but it'll give me a much better understanding of how the game works while I have fun blowing shit up.

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>>10906554
NAK plays StarCraft 2 and JRPGs
Kamui won the VF5 tournament. You don't get to be that good without playing for hundreds if not thousands of hours.
TAC has held WRs in many different games, and he made his own game while continuing to dominate all of the new releases.

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>>10908331
But where's the fun in that? You can just look up the good ending online if you really want to see it.

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>>10906642
>Ketsui is fun as hell, seems more difficult than DOJBL, and a hell of a lot more difficult than DDP.

Ketsui is great. I think I prefer it to DDP. I think it's only slightly more difficult though. I've played them about the same amount of time and I generally get to stage 4 in DDP, and stage 3 boss in Ketsui.
I've not played DOJBL. Should I pick it up?

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>>10906642
Ketsui may have more difficult patterns, but it also gives you way more resources. Overall, DOJBL is harder if you choose Exy.

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>>10909450
I can consistently make it to the halfway section of 1-6 in DDP, but I never make it past 1-3 in Ketsui. I'd recommend playing DOJBL, it's a lot of fun. I usually get blown up as soon as I reach 1-4, and in the rare case that I do make it to 1-5, I end up dying at that turret section. Chaining feels more strict, but you have hypers, which are really satisfying to use for some reason. I enjoy popping a hyper on the first 1-5 midboss when he comes down for the boxing match.

>>10909581
I'm not sure what it is about Ketsui's patterns, but they're really confusing to me. I've never really been too confused about the patterns in DOJBL or DDP, aside from the cheese graters in DOJBL 1-3, and the 1-5 boss and 1-6 boss in DDP. That last pattern.

[Anonymous No.]

wich 2hu is the simplest? i don't want to play one with a convoluted system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10909851
mof

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>>10909851
IN and UFO.

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>>10909851
EoSD, MoF and SA

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>>10909851
SoEW

[Anonymous No.]

+420 graze it Reimu amulets

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>>10911506
>saging with a picture

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Dying on stage 2 feels really bad and I really hate restartitis.

[Anonymous No.]

It's time for a little questionnaire, /jp/. Please sit down and take your time while answering these questions.

Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
E) How much have you improved during the last year?

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
9
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
1
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
1
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
9
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
9

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>>10913557
>Part 1
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
1
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
1
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
1
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
1
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
2

>Part 2
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
2.5 years
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
EoSD, has the best memes
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Normal 1cc
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
10 mintues
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Hard 1cc
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
Not a lot.

>Part 3
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
No.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
No.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Sometimes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Pretty good.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>Download EosD again after not playing it for 2 years
>I can just barely beat Cirno on hard
I've got a long way to go before I can beat 6-12 on hard don't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
2
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
4
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
3
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
3

Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
1.5 years.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
I have no strong favourite, but I would probably pick UFO or PCB.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
I like scoring a wee bit more.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I wouldn't call them great.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Roughly an hour a day.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
To improve in the games that I enjoy and play.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
Not much, feels like I am plateauing.

Why are there two E's.

Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
I lurk more than I should.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
Yes.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Fun.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
I do look up to some players but I wouldn't call it idolizing.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
It would be nice.

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>>10913557
How can I explain when this already takes up over 1000 characters?
>1
>A) self-consider?
2 - I'm better than people who have never sat down and grinded anything, but that's about it.
>B) Reflex/rxn?
2-5. Generally, reading is more important than reflexes imo, but I can get myself out of sticky situations if I'm paying attention.
>C) Reading?
3. Much better than when I started, still have a long way to go
>D) Control
1-9, depends on game/shot type.
>E) Patience
I'm methodical. As of last week, there were 3 spellcards I would grind 50-100 times per day, plus stage practice.
>2
>A) Long
Since about last December I think
>B) Fav
IN because it was my first and I've played it literally 5 times as much as any other game
>C) Survival/Score?
Right now, I'm doing survival, but one day I will score.
>D) Achievements?
LNB up through midboss Marisa in IN because it's the last thing I did
>E) hours/day
0-5ish
>F) goals
1cc PCB, EoSD, MoF on lunatic, LNB IN, score IN
>E) cmp last year
divide by 0 error

>3
>A) others?
I have a decent sense of what people are playing and what they're aiming for
>B) Other sites?
stgrillz ;)
>C) replays?
I only watch replays that don't contain things that I would copy, i.e. WR runs, silly TAS, other peoples' achievements, etc. Otherwise it feels like cheating.
>D) streams
Streams are the best!
>E) Idol?
The Man
>F) Western discussion?
I think we chat plenty.

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>>10913757
oops, 1-9 for control is way inaccurate. 1-6 would probably be a better range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
5
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
9
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
1
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
5

Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
since 2003/4 or so for Touhou, since the early 90s for STG in general.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
PCB, because life system and shields. If it's not Touhou, then Raiden Fighters.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival, although I prefer to capture spellcards in Touhou.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Beating Yuyuko the first time I got to her. Because Youmu usually rocks my cock. Also the only time I've beaten stage 6 on the first try.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Maybe an hour a month nowadays.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Become able to beat Kogasa again after not playing UFO since TD was released. Become able to 1cc Fairy Wars.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
0

Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
no
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
no
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
no, but don't dislike it.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Good when a new game is released and it isn't up for download yet. Bad if the person sucks at a game or keep restarting.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
no
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
no

[Anonymous No.]

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
5, I only play touhou, I've beaten normal with everything, have like 2 extras left and I am slowly moving into hard mode.
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
3, don't now how to quantify this, I'll just judge by my deathbombs.
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
7
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
8
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4, I will play for like 3 hours on a goal I have set for myself, and I will continue if I am making noticeable progress.
>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
3 years total of on and off playing.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
I play for mostly for survival, but scoring can be fun, I don't do stuff like supergrazing keine's midboss spellcard.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
1bil PCB phantasm, not very impressive but I am proud of it. It's the thing I worked hardest for so far.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
1-2 hours
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
beat koishi and mamizou, no big deal.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
february marked my first extra clear with suwako and I have been making steady progress ever since.
>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
No
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
No
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Superplays and tool-assisted runs are very entertaining
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
It's nice in small groups.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No, I don't follow anyone.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Not really.

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>>10913616
you can't 1cc anything in 10 minutes

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>>10913787
Maybe it means that some days he doesn't play anything then every 3-4 days or so he goes for a 1cc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913776
I missed the question on favorite game, it's PCB, scoring system rocks, and IN as a close second.

honorable mention goes to LLS despite its easiness

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913776
>Plays normal/extra
>7 bullet reading
>8 control
Well then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913700
your achievements don't need to be great for them to be your greatest!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
w-what do you intend to do with our d-data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
10
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
10
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
10
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5, sometimes my controller destabilizes
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
1, it's okay though because I usually 1cc within 5 tries or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
2
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
2
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
2
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
3
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
3

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
1 1/2 years.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
IN, best score system.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Scoring.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
An okay MoF Normal score.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
1 or 2 hours.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
A slightly better MoF Normal score, maybe something else too.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
A bit.

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
Yes. Not telling.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
10/10.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
Yes. He had the most australian streams around.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
It's time for a little questionnaire, /jp/. Please sit down and take your time while answering these questions.

>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
5
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
5
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
6
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4

>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
3,5 years
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Maybe Ten Desires. I like fighting multiple bosses.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Don't know.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
It varies alot, but my yearly average is maybe 4 hours/week
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
None.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
15%

>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
no
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
I sometimes check one of the Touhou wikis, but they suck.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
yes
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
I like livestreams. Might try it out myself.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
no
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
I think there is plenty of discussion. It's a big scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
P1 A) 4 below average B) 8 Pretty good C) 6 Can't micro, slow stuff is hard D) 8 Pretty good, rarely die from misinput E) 3 not very, I suck at sticking with one game

2) A) almost 4 years B) PCB, cool scoring system, fun bosses/stages mostly, prettyness C) Both D) Good question. E) A few hours F) I don't even have goals for the rest of the weak, nevermind year G) I've been steadily getting worse since I started playing

P3 A) Only things that are really noteworthy (WRs and stuff) B) Yes, no C) See A D) My main source of entertainment when I don't feel like playing anything E) Jaimers because he does crazy shit F) Well there's already quite a bit of discussion so I think it's fine as is

[Anonymous No.]

Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
Decent, 5
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
Okay, 5
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
Fair, 5
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
Not that bad, 4
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
Not very, 3

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
2,5 years
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
Fairy Wars, bcus Cirno is a BAKA XDDDD
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
scoring
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I have many achievements that took some work, but none strike me as particularly great yet. Working on it.
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Probs about 2-3 hrs on average
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
No concrete goals
E) How much have you improved during the last year?
I've improved a bit

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes, I care about many different players
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
Yes, a few
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes, love it
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
It eats away your life
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No, not really
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
IDK

[Anonymous No.]

I finally 1cc'd EoSD on Normal with Reimu this morning, but now I'm having trouble on the next step. I tried the Extra Stage, and progressed quite well, but got stuck on Patchouli's third spellcard. The Extra Stage may be a bit heavy for me at the moment.

I am debating on 1cc'ing normal with all the characters next, or just perfecting it with Reimu A and then perfecting itfor every other character. Or, I could complete the extra stage, and then perfect normal. What would be the best option?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914039
Congratulations! Have you 1cc'd the other games on Normal? I'd recommending 1cc'ing every game on Normal before moving on to Hard or Extra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914039
Why not play hard or lunatic now? I don't think extra is comparable to normal-hard difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
since I actually took a bit of time and answered seriously, I couldn't fit it within the limit of a post here, so have a pastebin. http://pastebin.com/eHNK8auz

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913994

Part 1
A) 3. I have only managed to 1cc EoSD on normal and am still not comfortable with many spellcards.

B) 3. Naturally, I have very slow reactions and I'm quite clumsy. Usually though, I find I can adapt within one specific area of something if I do it long enough.

C) 2 Bad.

D) 2 Bad, but getting better.

E) 6. I say I'm fairly persistent. I've been at it now months and didn't see any improvement. It was quite frustrating.

Part 2

A) Not sure of the exact date I started, but it was around December.

B) I've only played EoSD and HRtP in depth and I've played PCB casually. I like HRtP, but I prefer EoSD.

C) Scoring.

D) Capturing Scarlett Netherworld, although I wouldn't class it as a "great achievement".

E) 2 When I'm in work, 4-5 when I'm off.

F) Finish up on EoSD. 1cc Lunatic with all the characters and at least capture every spellcard, although I have a feeling its going to take me 3 years rather than the rest of this one.

G) Quite a lot I think.

Part 3

A) I don't. I don't really have the authority to help anyone yet, and I've just been focusing on myself.

B) No.

C) Yes, although I'm careful not to watch anything I've not done yet.

D) Never seen or bother with them.

E) No. I don't anyone who would be considered an idol.

F) Not really bothered.

[Anonymous No.]

A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
7, mostly come from experience
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
7, not a relevant stat
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
5
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
5, too lazy.
F) Do you have an idol? Why?
yes, why not

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914069

Thanks. I don't know, I hadn't considered that, although it does feel lonely when people are discussing lots of characters I don't know about. Plus, that way I'd be able the new game and join in with the discussion on it. I just don't like leaving things unfinished, although I suppose it would be impracticable to complete all it.

>>10914083

I noticed that. I have played hard and was able to get to Stage 4 without continuing, but the Extra feels harder than Hard, but its definitely not Normal.

The reason I'm not playing Hard now is because I'd rather 1'cc Normal with every Reimu B and Marisa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914157
Extra is generally considered a little easier than Hard, but it's much more gimmicky; you have to rely on learning the Extra stage and boss a lot more than Hard. Though once you learn how to play Extra, you won't know how you ever found it difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914177

Yeah, I've figured out that you have to focus and move slowly on the first wave of fairies, and then simply move in between the shots of the pink wave. I've noticed that the streak of blue bullets on the third wave is always the same, but I've got to find a gap I can hid in. I just don't like missing all those Power Items and Score Items.

[Anonymous No.]

Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
4 years, 1.5 years in earnest.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Score.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
On average, 2-3 hours. When STGs are my primary focus, 6+ hours.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
A lot.

>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
If I have any interest in the game, yes.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
It's great. I wish could communicate with Japanese streamers.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
ISO. Because he's a God.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
1, I'm shit.
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
4, below average according to some reflex test.
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
2, can't dodge random bullets at all.
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
9, I was complimented for having great character a few times.
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
9 or 10, according to what I've been told.

A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Touhou only, since early 2011. 2.5 years.
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
IN. Fun, pretty patterns, cute dialogue, cute teams, comfortable methods of practice.
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
I prefer scoring, but I can appreciate survival over scoring in some cases.
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Some bad IN Hard, Lunatic and Extra scores.
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
3-5 hours.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
6B IN Lunatic. （´；ω；｀）
E) How much have you improved during the last year?
A good bit. From barely being able to clear Hard to getting some bad Luantic scores.

A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
東方幻想板, 東方＠ふたば, MotK and some blogs.
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Yes.
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
I have a player I admire, yes. But "idol" may be too strong of a word.
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Yes, instead of :V:V:V:V:V:Ving all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
1, I'm shit.
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
4, below average according to some reflex test.
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
2, can't dodge random bullets at all.
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
9, I was complimented for having great character control a few times.
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
9 or 10, according to what I've been told.

A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Touhou only, since early 2011. 2.5 years.
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
IN. Fun, pretty patterns, cute dialogue, cute teams, comfortable methods of practice.
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
I prefer scoring, but I can appreciate survival over scoring in some cases.
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
Some bad IN Hard, Lunatic and Extra scores.
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
3-5 hours.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
6B IN Lunatic. （´；ω；｀）
E) How much have you improved during the last year?
A good bit. From barely being able to clear Hard to getting some bad Luantic scores.

A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
東方幻想板, 東方＠ふたば, MotK and some blogs.
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
It's grool and fetch. I like it.
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
I have a player I admire, yes. But "idol" may be too strong of a word.
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Yes, instead of :V:V:V:V:V:Ving all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10909851
Mystic Square

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do some people last more than five minutes without missing in PoFV? I reach the three minute point and I'm already on my last life, and then you get some :Vguy who is practically shitting all over the patterns and avoiding all of the dots completely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914822
Nautral talons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914822
Practice. It makes perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914825
It's a shame that he doesn't play dot dodgers anymore and instead only plays WoW. What a waste of natural talent.

>>10914845
You forgot to tell him to watch a superplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914822

Practise obviously. Most of us are major dweebs, do think a bunch of nerds like us were born with super-reflexes and peak mental focus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
3, I'd have been inclined to say 2, but I've improved during the last six months.
>How good are your reflexes and reactions?
1, Im a slowpoke.
>How good is your bullet reading ability?
2, I can usually notice whatever bullets, but I react way too late for it to be any use.
>How good are you at controlling your movements?
7, I somewhat make up for the former by movements. I still die a lot.
>How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4, I need to take breaks at times, which really tunes me down as a player.

>How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Around 4 years.
>Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
IN has good dialogue and nice characters.
>Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Latter, but I do both badly whenever I feel like it.
>What are your greatest achievements? Why?
I've got an IN Easy 1CC and a timeout of a Spell Card that I worked hard for. They felt good, although neither is special.
>Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Depends on the day, anywhere from 2 to 10 hours.
>What are your goals for the rest of this year?
To very enjoy. And play some PCB, I guess.
>How much have you improved during the last year?
It feels like everything worth mentioning has happened within a year.

>Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
>Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
MotK (only HME), a few blogs and several Twitter accounts. I visit LR once every three months.
>Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes.
>What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
I like watching people do things. Just don't ask me to do it.
>Do you have an idol? Why?
Yes. He told me I suck and bullied me. I want to do the same to him and then we'll never talk again. Not that we do now.
>Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914861
But copying superplays is for scrubs and removes the fun and satisfaction of figuring out patterns for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
Part 1)
A) 6
B) 7
C) 6
D) 8
E) 7

Part 2)
A) Only started playing seriously in Jan 2013, so 6 months.
B) Most likely SA because it's hard and and simple.
C) Scoring.
D) 1cc SA normal.
E) Usually 1-2 hours per day, depending on my mood. Nowadays, less than that.
F) 1cc all games on Lunatic.
G) A lot.

Part 3)
A) No
B) DS and a touhou thread on teamliquid.net. But they are filthy secondaries so I don't bother posting.
C) No
D) It's fun, for when you don't feel like playing but feel like you need some STG daily dose.
E) No, I don't know anyone.
F) Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
http://pastebin.com/vWjuJBdT

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915027
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
>Yeah

That's not an answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10915054
Lol, i didn't see the What in there. I just thought it was like, 'Do you think etc.' - I thought it was a weird question. :)

Well, ehm. I think it's a good way to relax i guess and I like watching other people play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10914889
Top Japanese players learn from each other in the arcades. Western players don't have that luxury, so we must learn through video instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
1a - 1, I'm no good.
1b - 0-3, depending on concentration.
1c - 1, I'm bad at prediction the path of the ones that change their angle
while moving.
1d - 2, average.
1e - 1, I think I'm more impulsive than dedicated and I've been told that I'm
not dedicated enough.

2a - Should be around 2 years now.
2b - Pretty much the only one that I play is IN; I don't know much about the
other games.
2c - Scoring, but it ends up being survival play in the later stages.
2d - 1cc IN normal.
2e - Varies greatly: 0-10 hours.
2f - Eh, probably clear Normal with all shot types, and then clear Hard Mode?
2g - I think I've made a lot of progress this year.

3a - Not really.
3b - No.
3c - Yes, they inspire me.
3d - See above.
3e - Yes, he hates me now though.
3f - Well, /jp/ talks plenty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
4
>How good are your reflexes and reactions?
4
>How good is your bullet reading ability?
5
>How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
>How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
6

>How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Since beginning of 2012.
>Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
EoSD
>Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival, I suck too much for scoring. I enjoy watching scoring though.
>What are your greatest achievements? Why?
EoSD L3MNB. Lots of restarting.
>Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
4-5 hours when I have a goal. 0-2 when I don't
>What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Do some MoF survival runs. 1cc UFO.
>How much have you improved during the last year?
First cleared Hard this time last year.

>Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes.
>Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
MotK
>Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
I do.
>What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Entertaining.
>Do you have an idol? Why?
Not telling who.
>Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Sure

[Anonymous No.]

>How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
8
>How good are your reflexes and reactions?
9
>How good is your bullet reading ability?
9
>How good are you at controlling your movements?
8
>How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
7. I think I'm quite dedicated and patient when I have a goal in mind that I care about, but otherwise not very.

>How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Since 2010 August, so nearly three years
>Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
EoSD. It's dfficult, pure dodging and nothing too complicated. I like the old bomb and life system more than the new one too.
>Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival, but scoring is good too.
>What are your greatest achievements? Why?
In EoSD L2MNB, 400M Reimu B Lunatic, NMNBNGimmick of all main windows extra stages, LNB of all windows main games
>Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
2-3 hours if I'm playing, which doesn't happen nearly every day
>What are your goals for the rest of this year?
Get 350M~ with all of the shot types on Lunatic, 550M Extra MarisaB, L1MNB, 500M+ Reimu B lunatic.
>How much have you improved during the last year?
In 5 months I have improved my EoSD highscore from 200M to 400M, and improved from L6MNB to L2MNB.

>Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Yes, I try to.
>Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
HME
>Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes
>What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
It's great
>Do you have an idol? Why?
Clio, amazing player and entertaining livestream
>Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Of course

[Anonymous No.]

>Part 1 (Answer on a scale from 1 to 10. You may explain your answers):
>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
3
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
3
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
3
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
5
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
7

>Part 2 (Answer freely):
>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Roughly 3 years.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
TD.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Scoring.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
My TD scores because I've done nothing better.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
Anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours, if I even play at all.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
As close to 90% of the TD WRs as I possibly can.
>E) How much have you improved during the last year?
Quite a bit, maybe.

>Part 3 (Answer freely):
>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
Somewhat.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
MotK.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Yes!
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
Love it, awesome fun.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
Not really.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Don't really care either way.

[Geslimmar !9.v9lDcTnk No.]

>A) How good do you consider yourself as a Touhou/STG player?
4
>B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
7
>C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
5
>D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
4
>E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
4

>A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
Since April 2012.
>B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
PCB, I liked the atmosphere.
>C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
Survival.
>D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
SoEW extra without any doubletapping and perhaps EoSD extra.
>E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
About 1 hour I guess.
>F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
1cc IN with the scarlet and netherworld team, defeat mokou, 1cc MoF and PoFV all routes.
>G) How much have you improved during the last year?
Much.

>A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
No.
>B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
The wiki.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
Usually.
>D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
I'm ok with it.
>E) Do you have an idol? Why?
No.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
Nah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
part 1
>A) 8
>B) 8
>C) 6
>D) 9
>E) 7

part 2
>A) 2 years
>B) yes, MoF, it's simple yet challenging enough for me and also its scoring replays can actually work as walkthroughs
>C) somewhere in between, I don't like to bomb out of every attack just for survival, but seriously some scoring replays (UFO's in particular) just sicken me
>D) breaking the 1B mark on MoF lunatic, because it's the highest I've scored in any touhou game, and my first death came until stage 5
>E) about 2 hours/day (my eyes get tired rather fast)
>F) don't have one specifically
>G) a lot really

part 3
>A) sort of
>B) no
>C) mostly, some of them I can learn from, and others are just entertaining to me (because of commentary most of the time)
>D) it's okay I guess, I do watch streams, but it's more because of the player rather than the game
>E) I do look up to certain players but not to that extent
>F) well I don't mind it not happening, but it would be nice

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I download addon to place the MoF faith bar above the character sprite? Google isn't being helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916519
In the folder - Custom_e.exe, display faith meter next to character. Tick that.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard you can beat PCB without moving if you play as Sakuya on easy. Is this true? Any replays to prove it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
>Part 1
>A) How good do you consider yourself?
Touhou - 7 : STG - 3
>B) Reflexes/Reactions?
4
>C) Bullet reading ability?
7
>D) Controlled movement?
8
>E) Dedicated/patient?
8

>Part 2:
>A) How long?
Approaching 4 years.
>B) Favorite game?
PCB. The scoring system is lovely. I'm not the best at it, and I only score very casually, but I feel as if we get along. I have much respect for those who have mastered it or contributed to the high scoring routes. Then UFO for difficulty and because it also feels intuitive.
>C) Survival or scoring?
Scoring, though I'm a fan of pacifist challenges in games that support it.
>D) Greatest achievements?
A handful of Touhou and other STG world records, most of which have already been surpassed by now. I can only take pride in my route contributions.
>E) How much do you play?
Less than an hour per week. I'm retired.
>F) Goals?
To don't want to die and very enjoy.
>E) Improved last year?
I've gotten worse.

>Part 3:
>A) Do you keep track others?
I used to interact with others semi-regularly via Twitter or IRC. Now, I mostly just check thtopscore_bot once a week or so.
>B) Other Touhou or STG related sites?
MotK for tournaments or other shenanigans if they catch my interest.
>C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos?
Yes, for a variety of reasons. Primarily superplays or those of my direct competitors. I also enjoy watching my own, and I tell myself it's so I can spot mistakes and get ideas for new optimizations so that I don't feel too narcissistic.
>D) Livestreaming as entertainment?
Very few people actually entertain me. Most of the ones I've watched for extended periods of times were those of my direct competitors so that we may view each other's progress and exchange scoring ideas.
>E) Idol?
Many around me have given me strength and inspiration. They know who they are.
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
As far as I can tell, they discuss plenty already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916686
>I heard you can beat PCB without moving if you play as Sakuya on easy. Is this true?
No. There are no horizontal movement clears of PCB Easy, but that's it, as far as I know.

It's possible to make it to Stage 5 on IN Easy without moving, though.

[Anonymous No.]

This thing with this question:
>F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?

Is that a lot of the top Western players like to keep to themselves, as far as I can tell. Antisocial/introverted people aren't interested in engaging in these discussions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916842
They aren't antisocial, but rather, stuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916889
Or both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916842
>What is the hardest game in the series?
>What is the best shot type?
>What is your favorite game?
and some other variations that I don't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916562
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916802
>It's possible to make it to Stage 5 on IN Easy without moving, though.
I tried this as Border team and couldn't make it very far.
The farthest I've gotten without moving is stage 2 in TD.

[Anonymous No.]

livestream.com/touhougameplay
Everyone is invited. Except you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10916802
>It's possible to make it to Stage 5 on IN Easy without moving, though.
Using all of your continues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
A) 5. Not impressive, not unimpressive.
B) 6
C) 6
D) 4
E) 1, maybe a 6 or 7 when I cared. That was years ago.

Part 2 (Answer freely):
A) I think I got introduced to EoSD in late 2006 or thereabouts. I had played a few STG before that point but that was when I started having goals.
B) I like IN and PCB the most, because I'm the most experienced with them and I enjoyed learning how to score in them. I also found the danmaku to be the most fun to dodge. MoF was disappointing when it came out and nothing since really recaptured the magic in my eyes.
C) Scoring was where the milestones I cared about were. I never really tried NB or NF or whatever.
D) I was most passionate about breaking 1B in PCB Extra and 2B in IN Extra. ReimuA/Border Team. These days those scores are pretty mediocre, but those were what I tried the hardest to get. I might have done something more objectively impressive but I didn't have to work as hard for it.
E) 15 minutes? I stopped playing daily. Maybe an hour or two a week. 2 or 3 hours daily when I had goals.
F) None. If DDC is fully released then Lunatic 1cc I guess. I don't care about playing STG anymore.
E) I got worse.

Part 3 (Answer freely):
A) I don't look for it but I exist in spaces where people talk about what they're doing, so kind of?
B) SA, Twitch. Shmups.org occasionally. Used to visit sm.org but I stopped when I stopped playing games.
C) I do, if they're at a high level. It's interesting to see what people have to do to get the most points possible.
D) Gameplay-only is rarely interesting enough to hold me. If the broadcaster is charismatic then I'm more inclined to watch.
E) No. I have no goals. Even in the games I play, my idols all quit. Now I only have rivals.
F) Don't care. There's a lot already. If anything, rather than more discussion, the community needs less shitty discussion. These threads are bizarrely hateful most of the time. I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10913557
A) How good do you consider yourself
>4.5, Last years STGT put me in the middle of the pack
B) How good are your reflexes and reactions?
>4~5, Depends on how wakeful I am
C) How good is your bullet reading ability?
>7, I think my ability to path bullets is good, and I can read fairly high up on the screen
D) How good are you at controlling your movements?
>6~7, though I tend to over-dodge and I can't wrap my head around supergrazing
E) How dedicated and patient are you as a player?
>2, I tend to ragequit and go long periods of time between sessions.

A) How long have you played Touhou, or STG's?
>Touhou since 2005, STG since the NES days
B) Do you have a favorite game? Which is it? Why?
>Futari Black/Arrange.
C) Do you prefer survival or scoring oriented play?
>Depends on the game, but I'll usually put scoring above survival, even if I'm still learning the game.
D) What are your greatest achievements? Why?
>Nearly clearing Mushihimesama's Arrange mode. That mode has haunted me since I got the game.
E) Give a rough assumption, how much do you play per day.
>1~2 hours when I play.
F) What are your goals for the rest of this year?
>Break 500mil on PCB Easy, PCB Hard 1cc, SA/UFO Normal 1cc, all with ReimuA
E) How much have you improved during the last year?
>I think I atrophied a bit...

A) Do you keep track of what other people do with the games?
>Not really. I do wish more people would get into the genre, but there seems to be just a total barrier around the whole thing.
B) Do you visit any Touhou or STG related sites other than /jp/? Which site(s)?
>Shmups forum and Restart Syndrome
C) Do you enjoy watching replays or videos of Touhou and STG's?
>I use them for picking up tricks and how to deal with various shit patterns
D) What do you think of livestreaming as entertainment?
>Indifferent
E) Do you have an idol? Why?
>Manabu Namiki (I don't care for players tbh)
F) Do you wish the Western Touhou/STG players discussed more with each other?
>To a degree yes

[Anonymous No.]

New thread:
>>10918149

[Anonymous No.]

>>10917447
The replay I saw was done with Ghost Team and extremely well planned enemy death times, e.g. waiting for the exact moment when a familiar has rotated to the correct position to cancel that one aimed bullet that an enemy spawned.

I lost the replay, unfortunately. I've been looking for it for years.

>>10917800
No continues, but with maximum starting lives.