Elona+ General

[Anonymous No.]

Current Version: Elona+ 1.18R
Hundreds of hours of sitting at home grinding a game edition

Download: http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/bdHxMfJ7
Elona Wiki: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
Elona Story (spoilers): http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5025
(The story isn't actually in the English version so I don't know if you can call it spoilers, I'll make a pastebin later for non-spoiler progression if it so interests anyone)

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot to add to op.
irc.rizon.net #elona is the elona irc channel if you wish to discuss your grinding adventures.

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Anyone have the custom monster girl character spritesheet for Elona 1.18R? I forgot to save it when it was posted and only now that I've upgraded to the latest version, did I realize that my old spritesheet won't cut it.

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Well, going to try again...
Is there a chance I will come across a weapon with "It invokes Grenade" which is not a grenade?

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>>10806812
As a generated weapon, highly unlikely - I say this because I've never seen one, but it might not be out of the question. However, I believe there was one Precious weapon, a gun that invoked grenade - as you may expect, it's a sort of grenade launcher.

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>>10806832

it can happen


this one was form rare ball i open on a lucky day

crafted a light saber with it to

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How does Garokk's renaming and respriting work?

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>>10806882

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Is Elona plus still in development or did everyone left?

[Anonymous No.]

Its still in development 1.18R is from like 8 or 11 days ago.

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Am I going to lose the secret treasure of Ehekatl when I drop her for another God?

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>>10807725
Nope.

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Is this game fun and in enlgish?

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>>10807821
It's in english.

If you like sandbox games, then this is the game for you.

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What are the two best God pets?

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What are the two best God pets for a Wizard?

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>>10807863
They changed it in elona+ you can have god pets equal to your faith/10 or 2, which ever is higher. But anyways probably Golden Knight (to carry all your stuff, since you're not gonna have any carry capacity as a wizard) As for the other probably Defender to tank the monsters for you.

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>>10807911
So wait, does that mean I don't have to do the breeding stuff anymore?

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I gotta admit, this is a cool name for a hammer.
Too bad it sucks.

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>>10807863
None. God pets are all pretty low tier.

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>>10807999
What are the better pets?

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>>10807965
No, provided your faith is high enough, and your charisma is also high enough to support the amount of pets you plan to have +3 extra for quests. You can also drop them off at the Dojo or Abandoned Ranch so they don't count towards that limit.

>>10807999
I dunno that Golden Knight is pretty good at carrying stuff you know. (Although my inventory gets maxed out because of Yacatect making monster parts drop like crazy long before I even go over weight.)

>>10808043
Bells, lots and lots of bells.

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>>10808065
Bells aren't good - they're ridiculous. I can't think of any other kind of monster that you can normally capture in the game that can utterly ruin the fun value of the game than bells.

>>10808043
God pets are good enough, since you're able to start raising them from early on, and when you get to South Tyris, the boundaries between pets get blurred a bit since you can improve pets using AP.

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what is best antimage pets?

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>>10808089
Anything with insult.

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How do you teach pets new spells?

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>>10807999
Not the black angel

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>>10808043

Get a Yith, if you can.
They're basically brutal melee pets that can stun threats with their Eye of Insanity special action.
Really, as a Wiz, you want a bunch of tough melee pets to act as meatshields whilst you cast offensive magic/debuffs/whatever.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

Dual-wielding catsisters make pretty good pets if you want damage dealers, but they are fragile. Fox brothers are good spellcasters. These are the easy-to-acquire pets, though, and not the best.

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So im planted some seeds on farm tile, but when i stand over them and try to use fertilizer, its says the pant has already grown full, when plants is clearly in first bud form. What im doing wrong?

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I would do this, but I'm going chainsaw man instead.

>>10808158
It has to be that bush with white flowers (the 2nd stage) only Kumiromi's stone works on buds.

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>>10808119
>>10807999
>>10808043

There no need for god pets

when you can train the weakest thing into a god

[Anonymous No.]

finally ready for tower of fire :D

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10808366
The tower is incredibly easy. Find an "of fire" protection piece with at least 5 hashes, grab up blankets, and off you go.

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>>10806571
So I'm reading up on this, only roguelikes i've played are ADOM and Angband, but uh...Puppy cave? Tower of fire? Those sound familiar and not in a good way.


Ahh, well, how does this compare in comparison? easier? harder?

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>>10808391
How is this in comparison*

fuck, I'm also a little drunk.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10808391
elona+ is much, much, MUCH more forgiving than any of those. Puppy Cave's worst offender is the Kobold and Hungry Demon. The Kobold has eye of mind, giving it high crit chances. Hungry Demon can make you die of starvation. Other than that, Puppy Cave is cake mode.

Tower of fire is easy if you have sufficient fire resists. Nothing in it will trouble you.

Your worst ass kicking in elona will be when you encounter magic users, exploding yeeks, and especially elemental hounds. Before those things, the only trouble that will arise will be perpetual poverty, Etherwind, random curses while sleeping, starvation, starting the mine quest too early, and Kobolds showing up and K.O.ing you in one hit.

Early elona is like being in the real world... things will happen to you, and you will have no way of really dealing with it. Your first run through elona is going to be you getting sodomized by a lot of things, especially if you roll shitty stats/class and don't take certain precautions.

Check the newbie guide. Just search for the elona wiki.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10808414
For the love of god, if you end up in a room full of elemental hounds, and you don't have resistance to them, just leave.

Just. Leave.

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I like how you can be some three-armed snail wizard who has little girls on leashes while fucking a baker in broad daylight and no one would give a fuck on what you're doing.

No other game ever lets you do that.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10808430
That, and walking around killing beggars, bards, and panty-sniffing nobles, because they're not considered real humans.

But if you eat a cat, it's a crime against nature.

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>>10807863
God pets are doable now, if you keep them fed occasionally with herb-boosted (other types of herb) food. You could check the pet evolution page on the wiki and see if there are any abilities you'd like to get.

>>10808112
Some new stuff was added in from Leold that lets them get some debuffs or a ball spell that depends on what their highest elemental resistance is to determine element. The Black Gauntlet Leold page on the wiki has a list.

>>10808391
Elona is more like a RPG with some roguelike elements. It's just really, really random. You'll probably be bored if you're just looking for a roguelike. It's really fun as it's own thing, though. Hopefully the guy doing the Java work of it is able to finish in the next decade so it'd be easier for developers to fix some of the more annoying problems. It's definitely worth a few hours of your life.

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>>10808414
The fact the best way to respond to etherwind early game is too kill yourself is just silly.

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>>10808440
Everyone's immortal anyway so they'll come back eventually.

Hell, adventurers even give you lethal 'gifts' as pranks.

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>>10808497

>open the gift

>fire comes out of it

>my home is now on fire

or

>summons pack of monsters

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I have no clue how to successfully deal with this, theres too many cats and lions killing each other and that cat summoner thing is fast and beefy.

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>>10808585

Target the summoner and use the Shadow Step skill.
If you don't have it, get it, then come back.
Bring pets.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10808585
Orbital nuclear strike.

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>>10808585

use shadow step or come back when ur faster

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>>10808440
And don't forget artists.

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Is they selling rods of domination in South Tyris?

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>>10808774

save ur gold for the monster ball shop in south tyris

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>>10808440
It's because cats are cute. Cats, why are they so cute?

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Whats wrong with this guy? Comes to my home and pukes 8 times in rapid succession all on random tiles, haven't seen this before. Maybe its because I've started killing all male adventures, are they getting "sick" of my oppression?

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>>10808891
Probably drank something doomed.

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How to capture Thief Guild member? Just like any monster - with ball?

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>>10807324
How would everyone have left if the last update was last week?

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>>10808954
Monster balls or domination.

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How do I increase my pet's inventory item limit?

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>>10809071
You can't.

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>>10809075
This saddens me.

Can you at least make multiples of God pets like two or three Golden Knights?

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>>10809085
Put them in a ranch and wait.

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>>10809071
If you mean weight limit (its too heavy), you can teach them the weight lifting skill, but it trains abysmally slow on them. If you mean the max item limit (your inventory is full) then no, get more pets. Weight limit is also determined by stats (str/2,con/4), so you could increase those.

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>>10807830

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>>10809364
I stole the bed in the King's castle in Palmia. Should I still go for the happy bed or not?

>>10809330
And no, I really meant size limit. It's too few for a Golden Knight.

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>>10809085
This happened to me before:

I first got the cute fairy from Kumiromi. After getting all of his treasures, I swapped for Lulwy to get all of her treasures. At this point, I have both the cute fairy and the balck angel.

I keep it a point to place all of the pets I don't currently need in the Dojo, so they train while I don't need them.

However, when I switched back to Kumiromi, at which point I had kept by cute fairy back at the Dojo, he rewarded me again with a new cute fairy when I reached the faith requirement for the first reward.

This was from Elona1.17fix. Since then, I've upgraded to 1.18R, but it might be worth a look.

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>>10809404
I think you should, when you have spare wishes.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any crafting in this game?

I want to build a little log cabin out in the woods and have a tiny farm while I live a peaceful and calm life.

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interesting way to farm platinums:

1. get reasonable pickpocketing, get a shitload of cheap jewelry.

2. worship Yacatect, get enough Faith (1500) for the first gift, the goose that pops plats when you feed it

3. switch to another god, then switch right back

4. put in another 1500 faith's worth of jewelry, rinse, repeat.

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>>10808558
if an adventurer gives you a gift and he's not at least Amiable tier, you should just sell it.

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>>10809570
There is "crafting" but not what you're thinking, its mostly making consumable items or equipment. When you use the house board you get a set of tiles to pick from, one of them is actually a log cabin texture, so lucky you. There is also a farm you can buy, but as for the forest you'll have to train pickpocket and max out your strength, you'll need like 90-100 str to steal a tree since they aren't sold in shops (the farm comes with 14 or so trees iirc). The farm is overpowered, you can grow food, to gems, to magic rods, and even artifacts.

>>10809601
Yes but you're limited at 13 plat a day, provided you have max charisma, even then you'll have to pass time till the next day.

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>>10809647
13 a day is quite a lot, actually. just do this and then play normally. combine with fishing might be good.

[Anonymous No.]

Figure I'll repost this here because this seems to be where most of the Elona discussion is happening.

Some wandering merchants really have absurd deals... this armor had bonuses to evasion and greater evasion too. Shame I can't wear it because I'm playing a fairy. My pets will love it though.

I had no idea armor this good could be this cheap AND this light.

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I was using someone's 1.17 kawaiified character sprite sheet, and it showed the pumpkin with the black BG showing, how do I fix

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>>10810080
Look for the pumpkin sprite in the character.bmp set your paint bucket to 0,0,0 the pumpkin in that sprite sheet is 20,20,20 iirc

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>>10810164
Already filled the whole spritesheet with the black paint, the black BG is same as in other squares

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Aw yea, I finally got my palmia pride and finished half the north tyris main quest.

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>>10810013
it's vendor trash, dude. you can get better armor just by getting lucky with a scroll of change material.

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Is there any quest reward up to lvl 50 or so, with good chaos resistance?

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>>10810013

better off cafting BP vest for the pet's and using scrolls on any that have good stats etc

[Anonymous No.]

I cant seem to find the water tile in the Home Design. I really want a small pond in my house

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>>10811077
I think you can only get proper water in the cyber house or small castle. I remember having the same problem a while ago.

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>>10811406

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>>10811448
Fucking terrorists.

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>>10811406
Using fire or some other constant damage thing can make some exploding monsters trigger their suicides without actually having to land a hit. This helps a lot against boss-types where they can actually trigger the self-destruct and survive, since it does 99,999 max instead of their total HP damage to them. Keeping teleport rods helps too, since you can get them away from you if you have a free turn, or teleport yourself away.

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>>10811448

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>>10811486
Yet you have no mouth.

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I decided to drop my Fairy (the one stone limit is getting annoying) and start this amazing adventure.
This non-existant HP is gonna be a problem though, and I do intend on using the Negative Happy Chainsaw Edge

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better get them hero cheeses ready then

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>>10812499
Since Chen's a shikigami, follow an oath of never walking into water of your own volition.

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>>10812624
So, she can't complete randomly generated towers sometimes?

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>>10812628
She just needs to get flying somehow.
Which shouldn't be too farfetched, seeing as all touhous can fly.

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Is there a way to reset the little sister death count? Ate too many, gonna be a pain getting artifacts...

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>>10812741
No, why would you even eat little sisters if you didn't at least rescue several dozen already and gotten what you wanted from the strange scientist?

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>>10812767
I got some lucky apples first. However, i would like some artifact rerolls...

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>>10812805
Well, ironically, you're out of luck.

You're going to need to rescue as many little sisters as you have eaten to make up for it then rescue more to actually get those artifact rerolls you want.

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>>10812499
The gene file inherits items that your character had on them when you made the gene, not what was in the house... time to reroll...

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>>10812824

just load up on herb food items etc

drop crafted gear in there to

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I wonder what the optimum number is to stop the strange scientist quest and start eating? Each LS is worth 0.5 life (average), so the opportunity cost stacks up real fast. Also, other than apples and rerolls, is there anything else particularly worthy? Is it worth it to get an extra icebox?

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>>10812858
Lastly, is there a way of repeatable life gain other than little sisters? A way to farm hero cheese?

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>>10812879

trade in 35000 music tickets for cheese

rich person <Stoke> in Arcbelc

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>>10812911
That's... a lot of tickets. Does the ticket count from Perform quests go up really high with high skill? I've got 30 skill and am getting 200 a gig...

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>>10812879
My theory is 1 life = 2 luck = 2 mana. Now, happy apples give 20 luck. A little sister corpse is 0.5 life + 0.5 mana. So 14 LS = 7 life + 7 mana > 20 luck.

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>>10812741
>>10812858
Is it worth it eating little sisters? They improve base Life?

>>10810478
The Palmia Pride, Main Quest.

>>10812930
By the time I beat Zeome on vanilla with my Pianist I had like 150k+ tickets.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know the precise mechanics for the perform skill?
I wish to make a stochastic mathematical program to maximize expected payoff during party time quests.

The wiki is sorely lacking on specifics.
Like, at what range can we expect an NPC to pay for a concert.
If the payoff drops as a function of distance.
If movement affects payoff, say what happens if an NPC enter audible range halfway through the concert, will he pay only half as much?
How much NPCs will pay as a function of skill.
all the above concerning the party perform ability.

I did one, theoretically, for the gardening quest, but its pretty hard.
Travelling salesman hard.

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>>10813007
They do but it's a rather two-edged knife.
While they do help, you will end up needing more of them for artifacts.

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>>10812930
The way to improve your scores is to use Ensemble with a bunch of pets with Performing. Some people have had a lot of success with this, but you're still probably looking at a couple thousand tickets. You'd need as much speed as you can get, which isn't that tough if you ride a pretty high level NPC. The disadvantage to not riding is the speed drop when you lose stamina, so even a character with very high speed might be better off riding. But that also means you'd need a decently high riding skill. Kumiromi would probably help too, since it's a LOT easier to get stamina back with his feat.

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>>10813054
I use them just for happy apples; if what the other anon said stands true, isn't starting to eat them once the scientist asks for 14 or more better?

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>>10813007
Little sisters randomly give either +1 life or +1 mana. They also give a little skill potential but that isn't worth much.

[Anonymous No.]

What I use the little sisters for is to make copies of powerful artifact weapons and give them to my multi-armed pets. I'm currently looking forward to my pet with 6 dynamic sabers.

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>>10813076
Any particular reason why you want one weapon type like that? Usually I try to vary the weapons mostly for resistances, and some different effects like a time stop.

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>>10813076
If you ever decide to ditch the pet for a more powerful one, it's gonna be a problem because they'll reroll when you get them back.

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Has anyone tried Garokk's item renaming feature? The instructions put only 1-15 custom items, but I was wondering if it was possible to exceed that count by making something like plan16 and beyond then telling Garokk you want 16.

In addition, do the items you customize become artifacts when you do so? Does it mean that I can no longer use Garokk's hammer on them after customzation?

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>>10813103
You might as well backup your save and enter wizard mode to test those things out.

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>>10813107
Ok... I was just wondering if someone else has done it already.

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>>10813092
Come on, I just wanted to have some fun. I mean I imagine it must be a pretty awe-inspiring sight to have a six-armed pet proc Shining Wave six times.

>>10813100
I can simply shuffle it around my pets in the dojo. No problem here.

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>>10813092
I wasn't trying to ruin any fun you are having, just wondering why you wanted to use that particular weapon. A bunch of time stops would probably amuse me more. Invokes get kind of irritating when they slow the game down.

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>>10813133
It might, but I'd probably never get my turn. Then again that sounds quite fun, doesn't it? I think I'll do that in another run. I could get Diablo much earlier than Dynamic Saber, so should be easier.

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for dual wielding, should i use bow or firearm? and what type?

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>>10812624
How am I supposed to get this small medal then...

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>>10813433
forgot image

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>>10813433
You just don't. A fair exchange to me, if you compare what you have to deal with with what Fairies and Snail Tourists have to put up with.

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>>10813143
>>10813133

Invokes are affected by the control magic skill. The power of the invoked ability/magic scales with the involved weapon skill (ex: throwing for grenade damage)


>>10813289

What has better stats the bow or the gun?

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>>10813513
Does the invoke also get affected by the related spell's skill level? Like, if I invoke fire bolt and have lv.50 fire bolt, will it be affected by that too or is it purely weapon skill level?

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>>10813513
i have a bow of vindere and a living machine gun , what should i take?

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>>10813586

weapon skill level

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>>10813621

if it was me i use the gun and try to get nerve dmg on it

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>>10813630
30 bow and 15 firearm

[Anonymous No.]

2nd one was with Rampage and Cheer

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>>10813658
>not brushing your pet too
>519

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>>10813644
what another attribute should i add to a living weapon beside nerve damage?

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>>10813667

forgot about that

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell do I get figurines/cards from the ranch?

[Anonymous No.]

How to fix items that get gamaged and get -1 and more?

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>>10813964
Scroll of greater enchant armor/weapon and/or without the greater.
To avoid the - stuff, get acidproof in your equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

please live

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>>10813937
Guys, come on?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone tell me where I can get different tilesets? The pastebin doesn't seem to have anything.

I've got sprite sheets though, so that'll probably be sufficient.

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>>10814232
My best guess would be to worship yacatect of wealth. The ranch bonus only applies to corpses.

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Is blessing affects musical instruments?

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>>10813725
What does rubbing do?

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>>10814464
buffs the target based on your level of friendship

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>>10814475
What attributes does it buff? All of them?

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>>10814479
Rubbing
Various effects 10 No requirement Targets an adjacent NPC. The NPC receives a bonus based on their relationship with you. <Fellow> NPCs get the Boost effect. <Soul Mate> (supposedly) grants an extra turn. NPCs on a ranch that are killed after this is used on them get a bonus to their corpse. Quality might increase based on number of times this is done. Possession of a big brush item automatically increases the effect.

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>>10814362
www.mediafire.com/view/?7bgxl83nlhlh8f9

[Anonymous No.]

I hate it when I accidentally press 'f'.

All the guilt.

[Anonymous No.]

Is moongate with lots of free wishes still around?

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>>10813964
In addition to the other reply, if you're in Plus, you can use the weapons shop enchanting fairly cheaply. Cheaper than the scrolls, assuming you didn't have any lying around. You can also use the "rust remover" recipe with the alchemy pot things. This never seemed worth it, though.

>>10814379
It'd be neat to see this work. I remember getting a statue from a golden knight in a ranch once.

>>10814421
Nearly impossible to tell, but probably not. Material might though.

>>10814490
I wrote that description, and I am still not sure about the extra turn thing. I didn't observe it myself, and I can't remember the source. The boost is for sure though, and is pretty nice for the stamina cost.

>>10814738
Plus lets you dominate the town children and deliver them to a bard for platinum and a few tickets. Would that make you more, or less guilty? You probably had trouble turning over a wife to Raphael, too.

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How does one train Strength and Constitution quickly?

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>>10814774
The rust remover's prime use is fixing ammo which was otherwise permanently damaged as they are unaffected by enchant scrolls.

>>10814421
For a personal rule I have regarding blessing. It more often has a positive effect than it does not. The only notable exemption the game ever reveals is that it doesn't affect treasure maps. Frankly, if you adventure enough, you'll get more than enough spare water to bless everything you use regularly. I blessed my skeleton key, my instrument, my BBQ set, my bed, and my whistle even. There's no reason not to once you've got enough water. Frankly, I find cursed water more valuable as curse scrolls are bothersome and fail to work most of the time.

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>>10814801
For strength, hitting things, no real way to train it otherwise besides very very slowly with weightlifting or by eating herbs.

For constitution, letting 8 asura type enemies wail on you for an extended period of time, this will also train dexterity and perception due to the evasion and greater evasion skills as well. You want to have your PV at a point they do damage to you, but not as fast as your healing skill heals you. You can also mine out Palmia repeatedly as well as all the dungeons you do. Higher level dungeons have higher gold amounts hidden in the walls, but it's all pretty minor anyways.

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>>10814816
Do I have to get the mining skill to get Strength in mining?

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>>10814822
You mean the stat? Strength has no relation to mining, only constitution. If you mean skill then yes, you mine faster if you have the mining skill as well as mine the walls of higher level dungeons easier and without failure.

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>>10814868
Oh shit, I meant Con. Do I need to get the Mining skill for Constitution to increase while mining?


And where can I get extra body parts for my character?

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>>10814881
Yes you do need the actual skill. Stats train when their relevant skills are trained.

For your own personal character, Gavela can do it for the cost of some life. Not sure when this particular option actually unlocks however. It's lategame though as Gavela is South Tyris.

I think the scientist in Port Kapiul is only capable of removing body parts at the cost of life, but I could be wrong.

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>>10814774
>turning over a wife to Raphael

here's something interesting to try:

you need:
1. lots of scrolls of ally
2. lots of wedding jewelry

go up to Raphael, read the scroll of ally, and so long as you end up with a non-human, give it 19 pieces of wedding jewelry to bring relationship up to Soulmate, marry, then sell it to Raphael on the spot. You get ~5 plats, a potion of cure corruption, 2 unicorn horns, about 15k gold, and some other, random goodies.

if you're too cheap to use scrolls of ally for this, you could also drop a ranch right next to port kapul.

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Fuck I placed my farm in a forest instead of a plain recommended by the book in the farm.

Should I go buy a removal deed?

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>>10814923
removal deeds are for moving your house without fucking up the item placement.

to get rid of a building you can just press [g] on the overmap. you'll lose everything in it, obviously, and you won't get the deed back.

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>>10814927
But should I still relocate my farm or just leave it there?

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>>10814943
don't know if it actually makes a difference. well, it's not like it's expensive to do, so it's up to you.

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>>10814904
Yes, that's right. Gavela adds parts similar to the mutant feat and Ecole returns your body parts back to what they used to be.

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>>10814943
Unless I am forgetting something, you can have multiple farms in any version. You just have to pay upkeep every month, which isn't very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10814801
For strength training, try throwing some light furniture on yourself (treasure map, harmonica, etc). Doing this will let you increase your throwing, tactics, dexterity and strength.

[Anonymous No.]

Any portraits mods yet?
I don't want to use that lewd one...

[Anonymous No.]

That wish

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815203
> That wish
wish for stats are not so effective. Maybe prefere a potion of potential? You can bless it and take more stats. Or potion for improve your speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815220
It wasn't my wish, my adventurer is The Evening Dwarf Fister I just saw it on the network log and thought it was humorous.

[Anonymous No.]

How come my wishes don't get sent to the network?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815234
Mine don't either even though I'm connected and have the chat up... not sure why.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like my Gould's Piano don't make anyone drunk, can it be because my low performance?

[Anonymous No.]

><golden armor>

Well, huh.
I think I might have found a new enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815256
it finally work'd, seems to have really low chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815234
elonaplus took its wishes offline at some earlier point. probably to stop stuff that's not in the vanilla game from showing up in the wish logs and making vanilla players waste a wish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815292
I thought the chat only worked for people with the same version as each other. So the chat is everyone playing Elona online at the moment? This game is a lot less popular than I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815305
The chat itself only shows up wishes and deaths, mind you.
People rarely use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815311
I'm aware. But still.

[Anonymous No.]

elona+ still displays its wishes, chat is filtered by default which is why most people never use it.

You also have to realize how many people play the game without dying or doing anything that displays a message.

[Anonymous No.]

If this game is as content rich and amazing as it seems why does no one play it? Whats the catch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815535
It's for autists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815535
>no one play it

What do you think we're doing here?

The catch is however is that it is very very slow. Progress in this game is like that of an MMO's. You need at least 30-40 hours of gameplay to be able to start running most dungeons without fear of getting one shotted and then after that you need to keep mixing up your grinding if you want to get anywhere lest you'll hit a dead end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10808441
oh, alrighty. That does sound fun, I was just assuming it was a pure roguelike from the things i was reading. I like dungeon crawler rpgs too though, so I'll definitely give it a try at the least.

From what i'm seeing in this thread though, it looks like it does borrow a couple of things from ADOM, so maybe I wont be too out of sorts.

Well, time to try it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815552
Basically this.

You have to have a little in you to enjoy this or any roguelike. It's never going to be as user-friendly as most mainstream games and in a way, you almost have to be in a certain mood/mindset to start playing a new game that actually requires reading, paying attention and keeping track of info (but it gets easier from there). Or looking at a wiki. I don't think that will ever appeal to everyone and it doesn't even appeal to me all of the time.

There are times when I want to play a stupid generic shooter where I press buttons and blow stuff up as stress relief, and there's times when I want to play a game like Elona. I enjoy nearly every side of gaming.

>>10815555
>quads
I really think MMOs are quite a bit worse, to be honest. Elona can be slow if you try to treat it like a straight up grind where you force yourself to only do one thing all of the time, but it's easy to find pleasure in the many great tasks they have available. So many, in fact, that I doubt almost anyone knows every intricate detail of every skill, weapon type, item location, etc. Part of the thrill comes from constant learning and optimization.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone think they know the level range for resistance boosts in normal Elona? I want to double-check what I was trying to look up. It also looks like that in addition to changing the level range in Plus, they also added Little magic resistance to every NPC over 100. Not a big deal yet, but I imagine they are probably going to start ramping that up, screwing wizards even further.

>>10815202
They did a pretty good job redoing the portraits in the Plus version. Is that the one you don't like, or are you playing normal Elona? If that was the case, you could just use the Plus versions of the portraits, since everyone is in there.

[Anonymous No.]

Is creating monster balls in pot of fusion makes random lvl monster ball close to ur lvl?

[Anonymous No.]

does everyone get corrupted text? i have my computer on jap mode and i still get text like that.

(like through portals and stuff, and a couple spots in the interface)

[Anonymous No.]

so cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816494
wow, he is still getting killed too...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816494
It's my first time ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816559
did it hurt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816564
a lot ;_; Why are things so deadly ;____;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816566
You need to pick your fights

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816564

I also got the message "you are starting to enjoy getting hit hard" when a slimegirl slapped my shit earlier too...Uh oh!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816571
That just means your constitution went up. Green messages are good and purple are bad is a good universal rule and if you want more information on the specific message you can probably get the answer from searching it on the wiki.

Also, rogues that jump you on the world map and ask for cargo/gold are you going to smack the everloving shit out of you for a while, so either give them your shit or carry around (minor) teleportation scrolls and just teleport away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816447
You might want to try to use a unicode font, but the ones I used never seemed to work well enough. Actually cut/pasting the MS font that they use for the japanese version seemed to solve most of my problems with characters that didn't display correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10814772
Bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>10816552
True story the very last moongate on page 11 is some kind of dungeon assault.

[Anonymous No.]

I ran into a moongate that was full of platina and gold bells.
A shame that they didn't drop coins...

[Anonymous No.]

back to farming

[Anonymous No.]

>dungeon boss drops evolution heart
Sweet.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10817100
Killed a <King> and got a King Heart a couple of days ago. Got an Evolution Heart off of a 49-ish dungeon enemy.

>>10808772
Artists aren't even non-humans. They're worthless, inanimate uses of carbon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817129
I killed a <paralyzer> for mine.
Think it was around level 30.

[Anonymous No.]

I think i'm just going to start over. I've got two pieces of cursed equipment and bad shit just keeps happening ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817166
Better id your stuff.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10817166
Don't quit yet. Birth your child into the world. In fact, let it take over the town. Then, when your infested spawn go after the faggot at the graves, you can Ragnarok the place out of existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817166
This is a really easy fix.

>Do a few quests, things like Harvest Time will work
>Drink a poison/sulfuric, which can be bought from the magic vendor west of the inn, immediately to abort
>Do a few more quests until you have 2,500 gold (should only take 2-4ish max?)
>Go back to the magic shop and have the other person uncurse all your stuff for 2.5K

Back to normal and it only took about a day of game time at most!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817210
Oh and by the way, having a string of bad luck happen like this is immensely common so you'll want to know how to deal with these problems rather than just restarting every time they occur. If you do restart every time, you'll never make it to level 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>It brings an end

This should be fun

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10817249
It's always fun. Every time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817179
I had most of it identified, the breastplate was formerly blessed, but then bad luck happened and it got cursed, then my shield cursed itself overnight, and things just kept getting worse from there.

>>10817210
Ahh, Alrighty, I'll try my best. So used to just having to start over once you get screwed in games like this, but I guess it isnt that bad. Drank the sulfuric, I had gotten one from my chest, didnt see anything about aborting, but who knows? Managed to sell some shit for the uncurse (got lucky for once and found a treasure map!)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817257
>sulfuric
Maybe it only works in Elona+. Are you using that? If so, it should've worked and given a message. Press / and it might still be there if it happened recently.

When you get a Lucky Day dream, go to the casino in Palmia (east road from Vernis, where you are, brings you there) and use your 10 starter chips to try to get Potions of Cure Corruption by winning 4 or more times in a row. Don't use the cheat option. As soon as you do that, you're pretty much safe from all long term bad events unless you do something that summons a very powerful monster in a persistent location like town or otherwise cause a catastrophic event. Those are unlikely and completely avoidable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817292
>>10817257
If sulfuric doesn't work, i think becoming poisioned does,, or at least it has done for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817257
>>10817292
epic blog

[Anonymous No.]

What path should my little girl go for?
Witch or Valkyrie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817353
Witch is the one that throws around potions and potentially cures your useful mutations I think, so Valkyrie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817336
Poison, sulfuric, dye and anything that causes you to vomit should work, I believe. I suppose being poisoned through the well probably does too.
>>10817343
It's an Elona discussion thread...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817362
She does?
In the wiki, it didn't say anything about that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817366
If it's a problem I'm pretty sure you can just whip her and as long as you never put potions in her inventory horrible things won't happen.

Then you choose between having a warrior or caster pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10813682
bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817366
Oh sorry nevermind, I checked. It's the young lady/white princess that does that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817377
Well, um, do you think I should go for which now then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817388
I have no experience with them, but I think witch is cuter at the cost of an additional heart. Being a caster you'd probably have to put some control magic on her but that shouldn't be a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817398
Oh, I see...
Darn, this will be hard to decide

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

Little girl witch starts off with shitty casting. I guess Crystal Spear is nice, but unless you can modify her AI behavior, she'll just run right at the enemy to melee instead of casting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817465
I was mainly thinking on getting Witch since she gets Cheer and also Crystal Spear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817465

better farm that ap then

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817343
excuse me? We're discussing the game. Kindly leave the thread if you dont want to see discussion of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817363
yeah, I stopped getting messages about babies and stuff, so I guess it worked. I've been doing really well since getting everything uncursed, and got a really nice (in comparison to the other stuff I had) gun that's letting me do a lot of damage, so I can finally do quests without dying horribly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817491
Not to mention Rain of Sanity which is also a good bonus, for me atleast.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10817491
Valkyrie gets cheer, too, so you're not losing anything, only getting Crystal Spear, which is nice. But she rarely uses it until South Tyris, where you can reset her AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817497
kindly fuck off, blogging is against the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817497
Don't respond, it only derails the thread further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817503
Well, I'm willing to waste AP on my little girl, I'm rather fond of her already, I don't see why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817129
Once killed a Chupacabra and got <Another Heart> and another off of a monster I didn't even see my pet has killed. Then got a <Machine Heart> off a Xeren Electric Tank, and a <Magic Heart> from a Black Baptist. And a ton of <Evolution Heart>s from a ton of other things. This, of course all throughout my whole playthrough.

And I've never managed to get a lucky day while in a dungeon. The Random Number God just loves me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817370
Fuckin' sweet. I'd love to trade you a stack of 100 scrolls of oracle and them steal them all back again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817429
I went Witch, but when I got her, the crystal spear is shit. Mostly because she was evolved off a little girl and thus never trained the important skills: Casting and Control Magic. However, with a -LOT- of work, she has greater potential than the Valkyrie, because she starts out with +50 Mag, even after you get to South Tyris, the Valkyrie doesn't just get that much Mag in one go..

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of regret getting a blessed eastern bed. I haven't had a bad dream since and I've probably slept 50 times by now. Only good things seem to happen.

I considered chugging down unblessed potions of mutation just for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Do glia crystals and etc stack?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817822
Almost all things stack, including equipments. for equipments to stack, they have to have the same "quality" (an invisible counter to determine how good the stats of the item are). There are some rare examples of when things don't stack for what ever reason (I have like 10 different rubies that refuse to stack)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818036
I think he means the effect that stacks, not the item in the inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10813682
Magic damage and god slayer. Only get god slayer if you're going to kill chaos fort bosses or worshipped gods, though. For some reason it doesn't work on some of the random gods that appear in 180+ dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818264
If that was it, then no since those items are for the equipment crafting that hasn't been implemented. It kind of seems like there's some kind of code roadblock for it, since it seemed to be the last thing Noa worked on before he dropped it, and it still hasn't been fixed.

>>10818419
That is a neat weapon. I'd like to see someone take advantage of the additional enchants sometime, though. An extra +40 damage on a weapon would be pretty amusing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10815202
Not yet for Elona+, since they changed face1.bmp's layout, but there are some good ones on pixiv for vanilla.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10817643
You can always raise another little girl. Valkyrie is immediately more useful. I suppose once you get to South Tyris and you can add AP skills, you're going to have an herb farm churning out, so stat improvements for pets is relatively unimportant.

[Anonymous No.]

takes ages to train there skills up tho

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>10818478
Not really. Let them have elite equipment, dig for ores and let them have them, give them the traveling skill. Basically, take them through low level dungeons and let them clear them by themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

My character is a quickling pianist, so I know about speed. But Sakuya here was my best decision in the game, so far. When there's an ambush my current action is to start playing a harmonica solo while Sakuya throws 829748294 knives at everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818557
Until you realize how stupidly game breaking and trivial bells make the entire game. Fun to fuck around with but they seriously just kill any fun in the game very swiftly and I'd recommend not to overdo it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818569
Some people like exactly that.

[Anonymous No.]

the puppy in puppy's cave won't join my party, i even sent all my pets away

[Anonymous No.]

Back to training the Little girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818578
How did you manage to get that many herb seeds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818575
You have to abandon them. Just sending away would only teleport them to the pub which still takes up a party slot. Or if you have a ranch, put your pets in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818575
Waiting pets still count towards your limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818557
If you really want to break the game, and I mean all the game, even the most powerful bosses in the newest areas, you want the Bell of Termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818582

Deep-sea castle+Statue of Kumiromi

time move silly fast there makes it easy to get seeds off the statue

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818569
how so? My quickling was already an overpowered ranged death dealer (got gemini), but now I have a pet that can actually kill everything for me while I play the harmonica, or read books, or whatever. I just need to teach her to speak in Sakuya-like sentences.

>>10818572
This. So far, the only trouble I got with my bell is that she rarely lets other pets kill stuff (melee pets are extra-fucked, because Sakuya delivers about 3 lunatic spellcards worth of knives before a speed 100 pet can reach an enemy), so I ask her to wait in town when I want to marry another pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818590
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Bell_of_termination

I had an erection reading the article. But I'll still need about 50 more levels to have a chance to dominate one of those, even with the monster heart. I'll probably name mine Flandre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818607
Yeah, the thing is, sometimes you NEED game breaking for a few bosses. Even a tricked out terminator had trouble tanking Siva. While it does ruin the game for normal things, it helps to have something that can rain armageddon down on certain jerks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818607

You need to break the game to kill Siva

Siva me for 7k+ this was me with 1k+PV

>>10818607

Rod may not be needed if you put some money into monster ball shop in South Tyris.

[Anonymous No.]

Mana Burst? Really? Who the fuck thought giving a god this special action was a good idea?

>>10818651
You can kill Siva without bells. All you need to do is Houzanha the entire place and play like a lich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818607

You had an erection from that? Sheesh

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Snail_thr_android_rider

[Anonymous No.]

What monster can I gene engineer a Travelling from

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818693
Doesn't little girl and fire dragon child both have it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818693
Rorans. Your little girl has one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818693
putits work

[Anonymous No.]

Time for Siva to died

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818907

*die

Man who was the smart ass who gave me 2k speed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818907

Die*

who was the smart ass that gave him 2k speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10817370
How do you make green and blue text appear in stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818953
Those are buffs generated along with the equipment. If yours don't have any, it doesn't have any, and you should find a better one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818975
Yes, but my color of this buffs is not so bright, how i can make it this >>10817370 bright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819004
...Your monitor brightness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819007
No, im talking only about this text colour, it must be something in Elona config

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819033
It probably isn't. I'm willing to bet that no one in this thread has even gone so far as try and change Elona's text color.

[Anonymous No.]

Which house has the one with the free wishes?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh God, my sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819066
What font are you using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819072
I'm just using applocale, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819074
It looks nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818666
I have 3 of these, riding them at 2000 speed. Makes me wish I could draw my adventurer riding one over Palmia bombing the helpless guards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819084
Lucky you.　I've been looking everywhere for those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819084
>plane
>female
So, to have sex with it, I'm guessing you gotta fuck the exhaust, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819086
I know what you mean, I'm still looking for a satellite quest (is it even possible?). Just recently I got a blood golem one within my range (578 effective dominate), most of the ones I've seen were 600-700 which is still too high for me, I also saw a gold armor one at 700.

>>10819088
Considering my character is female too, I like to imagine she uses the "mutation" spell to add a certain part to do that. Though that spell is actually for alias changing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819103
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, another Elona dream.
You guys remember that one I had about the day-care, right?
Well, I had another one completely unrelated but, just listen.
I had a dream where a Coliseum was added right next to the Sacred Grounds.
The twist was that you would just add random monsters fight to death but with improved stats and sometimes even spells.
You could even bet on some of them.
I remember there was a slave market in there also with unique gladiators.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to start a new character.

I was playing around with grenades but I always ended up killing my companions. Is melee viable at all or will I die too often? Also, since the new version I find it really hard to make money as there are hardly any "Before it's too late!" quests anymore.

I'm going to try doing something from the guide, but any tips would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819103
how do you know what your max dominate level is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819124
Guess I just have to keep going at it. Got a new shop keeper recently 620 negotiation.

>>10819125
I once had a dream where you could upload your player shop to the network so other players could buy your stuff or even sell stuff to you, though it sounds hard to actually implement something like that.

>>10819145
Well for the spell form its just the level of the spell itself. But when you're using spell boosting gear with it, you multiply it by the effectiveness of the spell boosting gear which in my case is 2.2.

[Anonymous No.]

question: do you eventually get anything nice for making it to top rank with the fighter's guild? the quests are really PITA to do...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819125
>you would add
I mean, it was randomly generated.
Someone else owned the Coliseum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819158
Yes. You get some kinda flame sword after doing the quest given by the fighter's guild master once you reach a high rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819158
There is a quest for all Guilds for reaching at least rank 5. All of them involve killing another Guild's guildmaster.
Fighter guild gives you an artifact 2 handed sword
Thief guild gives you a piece of furniture
Mage guild gives you an item that summons a caster pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819163
wait, if you kill a grandmaster, do they ever respawn? or if not, does that stop you from doing guild quests for other guilds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819165
They respawn, just like every other npc not killed by a scripted event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819170
ah, I see, I wasn't sure because the guildhouses don't reset.

[Anonymous No.]

Elona

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819139
If you get Control Magic, the grenade effect won't hit your allies.
If you need money just go worship the Yacatect and sell the body parts that drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819054
Please respond.

[Anonymous No.]

Started an ordinary farmer, no scumming for wishes or inheriting items. Feels kind of nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818660
For me, it was a lot more irritating to be mana bursted several times by the new NPC Raizel when trying to get his statue and card. God damn that does a lot of damage. If

>>10819084
You can evolve those, but I don't think they get anything besides a stat boost that probably wouldn't make much of a difference at those levels.

>>10818693
For future reference, check the wiki on the skill you're trying to get in the future. If they start with it, it's usually marked on the page. I don't think there's a section for Plus though, so it might be tougher to find some if the race skills have changed of the ones that are listed.

>>10818941
The thing that irritated me is that the whistle still seems to do nothing. At least let it give you some additional bonus to some skill, like a skeleton key or monster heart.

>>10819125
You should probably play another game for a while.

>>10819161
It's a nice sword, but heavy weapons are pretty gimped. It'd be nice if some of the skills that you leveled up actually added feats instead of special actions. That way, you could give stuff that could counteract some of that shit, like the riding heavy weapons penalty.

>>10819163
The wrang-wrang thing you can summon from the wizard quest is some Kurt Vonnegut reference or something. It's bizarre what english stuff drifts into the japanese language sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10818557
>sakuya
there

[Anonymous No.]

Is "It catches signals from god." attribute just give messages from your god, or something else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819903
Just the messages you get from your god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819903
It doesn't do anything besides the flavor text.

[Anonymous No.]

I just freshly downloaded the game for the very first time. Is there anything to know about the game that isn't obviously stated in the newbie section of the wiki? Also what are the spritesheets and whatnot about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819962
Read the pasta in the OP link.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, finally. The RNG bullshittery was very strong on this one. I kept getting wiped even with 80% contingency on.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the disadvantages of having a lot of pets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10820045
They take away from your own character growth somewhat. If the pets are killing everything, your skills don't grow as much since you end up not being able to do as much. This may seem obvious, but the reason it matters is that if you neglect your battle skills, you get killed easier even if you're surrounded by an army.

Also, the more there are, the harder it is for any one of them to grow much either. If you pretty much just monster ball the highest level stuff, the last one won't matter. Early on it might, so it depends on how much micromanaging you want to do. It's sometimes hard to remember everything, even with 5 or 6 pets you're used to.

[Anonymous No.]

On what shop lvl they start to sell scrolls of contingency?

[Anonymous No.]

I was wondering why I was destroying everything, the ether disease for Violence boosting my two hand damage way up. But the -DV doesn't seem to apply, or does it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10820045
It makes your Cheer ultrasuperawesomesauce, raising your army DPS by a lot.

Game turns from Elona to Elona Tactics

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to make it so your armor doesn't go over your initial costume?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10820586

Go find a dresser and use that hide the armor parts


There one in Palmia

[Anonymous No.]

>>10820839
Also one in Cyber Dome, which is much more near.

[Anonymous No.]

How i can edit .npc file? Also where do i put this files?

[Anonymous No.]

><pudding spirit>
Hmmm, should I capture him?

[Anonymous No.]

So i threw little ball at little sister, and ball just disappear also sister don't join me.
What do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10821135
nevermind

[Anonymous No.]

Reading Elona threads is hilarious, I'm finally convinced

brb downloaing

[Anonymous No.]

>>10821539
ok, advice please

Do I get ver 1.18 or 1.22beta?
What's the deal with graphic packs?

I appologize for inane questions but I have great trouble navigating moon pages with just basic hiragana knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10821569
Get Elona+, much more content.
Graphic packs are rather optional, it's up to you to change it or not.
It's okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10821581
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>shop strongbox
>a chest 300.0s
>300.0s

Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

whats with the little heartbeat animation above your head when you kill things sometimes? I;m at full hp, so I dunno

[Anonymous No.]

>>10821842
It means you killed something strong enough to give you AP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10819054
It used to be house 2 on page 8 or 9, but it was removed. Maybe there is another one.

>>10820149
It was bugged in an earlier release, but I'm not sure if it was fixed.

>>10820936
Custom NPCs? "user" folder.

>>10821799
It's funny when your shopkeeper puts a safe inside your shop strongbox.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of mysterious diary, seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10822043
Leads you to the little sisters mansion with a clue

[Anonymous No.]

>>10822142
No, I meant the one you get from mixing a random diary and something else I forgot right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>was wishing for a happy bed
>a rawwork happy bed appeared
>took it
>man-eater crab ate it

fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>10822147
Only way to get a fox brother.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm going to make a fairy wizard, are they bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10822818
No, just very, very hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10822818

lot of time and money to get strong as a wizard

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823000
Not just that, but you also have the handicap early on of it being awfully tough to find equipment. Early on, it's hard to even keep enough spell stock, let alone having enough MP to cast spells consistently. Wizards would end up having to wear light equipment most of the time, so later on this wouldn't be that much of an issue.

Additionally, they're starting to add level-based magic resistance to high level NPCs in Plus that are over level 100. Right now it looks like it's only "Little", but they could bump that up. The only good news is that the NPCs' resistance doesn't go up as fast anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to lose levels by just wearing equipment with "it disturbs your growth"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823073
Not lose levels. Just experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823112
Shit.
I will need a lot of potion of descents...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823136
You're in a bind if you're in Elona+. Shit's rarer than fucking potions of potential. Hell, it's een rarer than Evolution Hearts, even Machine Hearts.

[Anonymous No.]

Do high-rank magic vendors sell scrolls of growth and gain attribute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823448
Any magic vendor does. It just has a higher chance of appearing because they show a lot more items at once.

[Anonymous No.]

>godly stone with mind bolt

Not sure if that's good or not...

[Anonymous No.]

How do I find items mentioned in the scroll of oracle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823531
It only says the location and date it was generated. Anything more specific is all up to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823531
If it's any help, if an adventurer obtained it, it will say the name of the adventurer that still has it.
Be warned though that it will be rather hard to negotiate with him, depending on the item.
Alternatively, you can steal it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823531
The problem with scrolls is that they only give the location once. There's a file in your sav_(character name) folder called art.log. Open that in a text editor, and you can check artifact spawns. It updates any time you save your game. Reading an oracle scroll deletes the content of the file, which is a real pain. So it's not really about saving oracle scrolls as much as being able to go back and check earlier artifact spawns without screencapping or writing it down yourself.

>>10823562
Well, usually you CAN'T pickpocket it. You could trade for it, then pickpocket the item you traded back, if it wasn't another precious item. You can, however, kill the owner. They will always drop precious items. If you're not worried about relationship level for new year's gifts, you can kill them then incognito the next time you see them so they don't attack you. Then just talk to them while incognito, and they won't be hostile any more. Of course, if they're too strong to kill, you don't have that option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823605
Sorry, my mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone tell me how to use custom PCCs?

I've put them in my PCC folder but they don't appear at character creation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823647
it would be in the body category, and the file needs to be named body_#.bmp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823647
i mean pp_body_#.bmp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823681
>>10823683
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823549
>>10823562
So I just have to keep pressing S till I find it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823690
Uhm, no. If it's generated in a dungeon, it's highly likely that artifact is held by a monster, so you need to find that monster on god knows what floor of that dungeon and kill it to get it.

As for adventurers, it's pretty much the same thing. You find them then trade for it or just kill them for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there anything important i should do before completing main quest besides getting Gwen's statue and card?

[Anonymous No.]

>"Treasure of Dream"
>fire dragon child slept next to you
>wake up with blood of fire dragon child on my happy bed

uh

[Anonymous No.]

>Red girdle was created at Urban Area in 1/9, 526
Only problem was that it was level 920+ Blade Omega.
I'm still using some random artifact girdle because I thought it would pop up during a random dungeon run and not a quest monster that I vastly underestimated.

[Anonymous No.]

How much faith do I need to get holy water?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823818
You mean blessed bottle of water? You just need to be aligned with the god's altar and drop it there to bless it.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/2884780

Elona+ 1.19 is out

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823829
That was fast and unexpected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823829
Is there a changelog anywhere? Doesn't show up on the front page of the .jp wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823836
http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/?Elona%A1%DC%B9%B9%BF%B7%BE%F5%B6%B7

No changelogs yet for 1.19.

>Doesn't show up on the front page of the .jp wiki.
Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823836
<%Trantez> Nice points of 1.19... when starving you get a special annoying sound to know you are starving. magic books are half price, you regain magic potential when you sleep, you get a special attack when you have 6/7th or more of your hp, you get 20% potential trained when you use a skill trainer, fighter type npc also get the special attack, you can now set custom character lines, you can now stop
<%Trantez> pets from casting skills by using 20ap at leorod

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823848
>you get 20% potential trained when you use a skill trainer

Wait, does this mean that they removed the diminishing returns on skill training and gave a massive buff to the potential trained?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823854
Yep, I'm getting 20% straight

[Anonymous No.]

That's all a little vague for me.
I'll download it once it gets more clear.

[Anonymous No.]

http://pastebin.com/WhjHPz3v
Hmm we no longer get 1% spell potential from reading a spell book, will need to see how this balances out with the 20% gain to all spells upon sleeping. At least we can actually see what the spells potential is at though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823907
How did you get the stat display on the left hand side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823916
Select a skill in the character screen and hit *.

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips on breeding? I have a ranch and a cat there hoping it would breed a silver cat. According to wiki cat's breed power should be 791 but in the assignment menu it says 41. Is this normal?

And does the luck effect what you get from containers like treasure balls and bejeweled chests?

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, I just found a cat but tinted green.
How come?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823783
Ah, forgot to post it.
Turns out I was my pets' first.
Good thing I'm using the monster girl mod so it's not as bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823976
you just took a fire dragon child's virginity congratulations, you were literally the first to fuck a young dragon.

I just hope this won't happen with my goose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823976
Wait, it sounds like the fire dragon child raped you...
That's hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823780
bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824012
Thread won't be bumped anymore, but I will post a new one as soon as this one is off the pages, using a pleasant image Siro drew of opatos and his golden knight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824012
Nope, gwen is the only thing I can think of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823965

zombie cat

[Anonymous No.]

>>10823955
If the cat isn't level 1 its breeding power will be less than what is listed on the wiki.

>>10823780
Set up ranches with whatever monsters you want several copies of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824015
Don't put that "edition" shit in OP this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>If the resistance is high enough, power bonus to arrive to the radiation of the corresponding attribute.

Does this mean having high resistances gives bonus damage of that type now?

Making this pre-nerf living weapon even more broken?

[Anonymous No.]

[ElonaPlus1.19 Changelog]
[Changes and additions]
-A new type of character has been added.
-Prevented the unequipping and equipping of equipment during brainwashing.
-Pets can no longer vanish in the pet show room and pet arena.
-You now get bonus spell power depending on how high your elemental resist on that element is.
-Mani's god gem's power has been adjusted and doesn't hit you anymore.
-There will now be a sound effect for starvation.
-You can now see spell potential on your spell select screen.
-Spell stock consumption now lowered by 1/3.
-Spellbooks now cost half price.
-Removed the 1% spell potential gain after reading a book.
-Sleeping will now let you gain 20% more spell potential on all spells except for ones that you don't have stocks to.
-Trainers will now train your chosen skill's potential by 20% no matter what.

1/3

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824175
-Added a special skill on all melee weapons except scythes that depends on your skill with weapon.
(The special skill was intended to be something like Decapitation, but it seems we've reached the limit on how many invokes a weapon could have, so yeah)
It's proc rate is dependant on your skill level with the weapon and can activate once per turn.
You can set custom flavor text for this skill by editing the txtSpecial file.
You can only use this skill with an HP no less than 6/7.
If your opponent is wielding a weapon on their main hand, the special skill can be rendered invalid based on their greater evasion.
Even if it wasn't blocked by greater evasion, it still helps on lowering its damage.
Furthermore, even if it's in the same weapon category the invoked special skill will sometimes be different, but it's power and effect is still based on its original category.
(For example, short swords and kitchen knives will use the short sword special skill, while ninja swords and pirate swords will use the long sword special skill. Even though they use different special skills, their power is still dependant on the short sword skill)
-In relation with the update above (special weapon skills), fighter type NPCs' starting weapons will now be fixed. (Like minotaurs always spawning with heavy axes fit for two hand wielding, etc.)
-Shield bash damage increased by a fair amount.
However, if your opponent is wielding a shield as well, the power of your shield bash will be lowered depending on their shield skill and greater evasion.
Its additional effect (dim?) can't be blocked.
Also, shield bashes can now only be used if your HP is no less than 6/7.
Tonfas activate a different skill now.

2/3

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824180
-You can now set custom phrases for your PC now.
-Forbidden meat effect changed.
If blessed, it'll change the consumer's gender to male or female.
Normal ones will change the consumer's gender into a would-be male or would-be female.
If cursed, it'll change the consumer's gender to a hermaphrodite or remove its gender.
-Since the unique NPCs on the third continent are pretty weak, several of them will now be generating precious artifacts.
-If your natural resistance on an element is now at 200 (normal resistance), food that increases/decreases your resistances will now produce no effect.
-A generated character's magic resistance will now increase depending on their level. The starting value for their magic resistance is at 100 and caps at 200 (its increase will start at lv51 and ends at lv300).
-You can now prevent your pets from casting magic and using skills you don't want them to by exchanging 20AP to Leold.

[Fixes]
Fixed a bug where the sex-changed NPC doesn't show the right indicator on their conversation screen.
Fixed Mani's god gems description to show that its attack is of electric element.
Fixed conversation dialogue of generic NPCs in Arcbelc.
Fixed a bug that causes an error when you enter a garden without the gardening skill.
Fixed a bug that causes an error when you kill livestock in your ranch without the anatomy skill.
Fixed the amount of things you can put on a compost. The place where the composts are in the older version has been changed into a grassland. Newly generated gardens will now have 5 composts.
Weapons that had their names changed will now display the correct name when wield proudly.
Fixed a bug where you can't finish unique sub quests after entering the Amur Cage.
Fixed the cut damage on attacker attribute conditions.
Adjusted the cycle of appearing enemies inside The Void.

3/3

I hope I did most of the translations right this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>-Spell stock consumption now lowered by 1/3.
>-Spellbooks now cost half price.
>-Mani's god gem's power has been adjusted and doesn't hit you anymore.
>Tonfas activate a different skill now.
>-You can now set custom phrases for your PC now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824183
I think you missed the fix that prevents you from training throwing/tactics by throwing furniture at yourself/pets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824175
Alright. Time to branch off into a wizard with a big fucking sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824183
Nice stuff. The new character is the lava golem, so looks like the trend of their artist previewing their work on the uploader continues.

I figured they would mess with the magic resistance again. I'm not enough of a masochist to play a mage, but I don't know if the other fixes make up for that change.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there cap on skill potential?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824213
400% if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824213
Should still be 400%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824175
>You now get bonus spell power depending on how high your elemental resist on that element is
Woah. Woah. Woah. The fuck does this mean for the already fucking power casters like the -izzle Bosses? Don't all late-game monsters basically have Superb++ resist on everything but magic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824212
Expanding on the golem a bit, he is level 167 with the exploding fist special action, and one of the new ones who's effect isn't translated. Not sure what the specific efffect is yet. Natural fire resistance. Seems to hit pretty hard.

The new SAs are Issen, are Penetration, Dance of Blow, Underhand Drop, Bisection, Pulverization, and Explosion. The flavor text for them is just half of the Decapitation sentence, so who knows if it'll ever be translated right. They all use the same animation for startup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824220
Everything gets bonus resistance if they're a NPC based on their level. The good news is that they recently reduced the amount they got for each level. It takes them until level 100 to hit superb rather than 50. The bad news is that even though it's a bit lower, the casters you mention get the huge undead resistance bonus to dark, nether, and nerve. No Resist has a value of 100, and hitting Superb is about +200, so 300 total at around 100. But the bonus for the undead guys is +400. That is pretty big bullshit. But I guess maybe they want to make the casters as infuriating as Siva and Yerleswood.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe it's my imagination, but "Starving!" damage seems to be pretty brutal all of a sudden. Maybe they ramped it up to a percentage of life or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Those random special attack animations slow things down when evasion training it seems. Can't find an option to turn them off either (attack animation set to no doesn't turn them off).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824278
Do they activate for pre 1.19 weapons or do all weapons immediately get them? And what of the unique weapons? Do they activate those skills as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824360
I wasn't able to activate them with a weapon yet. I was just using a debug character with the gain_spact wizard thing. I would think that there's a chance that uniques might not activate them normally...but since they specifically mentioned tonfas, they must work for uniques as well.

>>10824175
I've been forgetting to ask people in these threads, but do you mind if I rip this for the wiki? Actual complete changelogs are getting lost in the archives here, so it's hard to keep track of changes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824478
>I've been forgetting to ask people in these threads, but do you mind if I rip this for the wiki?
Sure thing. And as >>10824199 mentioned, you might as well add this line (You will now get no experience by throwing furniture at yourself, splitting monsters and summoned creatures.) to make it complete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824360
All melee attacks seem to trigger them, the weapon type used most likely determines the special attack (I don't know which is which as animation/flavor text is all the same). Any weapon can activate them regardless of quality or unique flag, its all skill chance based I'm guessing. Except for scythes (as they have decapitation on the item itself). I haven't been able to trigger a special attack on thrown, guns, bows and crossbows.

Unarmed without a shield or tonfa also triggers them, but the special attack is different with those on (shield bash now triggers the animation too and dims as usual). You can test these easily on a sandbag, I have at least 100 in each weapon type so its triggering often for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824529
Can you list them?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know where the text is supposed to be modified for the charge and new skills? I looked around through the user folder, but am I missing something that shows up ingame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824641
Like I said, I don't know what they're called due to the flavor text being the same. >>10824278 seems to have listed them if this what they're supposed to called if translated from Japanese mode.

Also to avoid confusion, these aren't special skills you activate from a list, they just happen randomly when attacking and always use the same animation/flavor text so I can't tell what the difference is.

[Anonymous No.]

2 handing staff special does this (all this is in 1 turn).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824689
That's probably the Dance of Blow then, since when I used the SA version it hit multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824668
Can pets activate it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824717
Yes enemies can too, which is extremely annoying when you're trying to train evasion (constant animations slowing things down can turn them off).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824728
Can't turn it off I mean. This one is wielding Hiryu-to in main and Zantetsu in offhand, as you can probably tell they're fairly generic damage increases or multiple attacks kind of deal, this one could be Issen?

Some of them make different sound effects when activated, they likely have hidden effects like piercing armor (if the attack name penetration is anything to go by) that one is likely from spears. I can't test these on a variety of enemies to see damage differences as almost everything dies in one hit unless its scaled which becomes dangerous for testing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824763
If you really want to test them, make a debug character. Activate wizard mode, and type in gain_spact into the console. The stuff is available as special actions, probably to make sure that monsters use certain ones, like the Lava Golem mentioned above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824875
Maybe later I'll discover any hidden effects they might have through normal play. But for now I used the sounds the special action forms made and compared to the actual random special to figure out which weapon triggers what.

Issen = Longsword/short sword (Zero shot sound, single hit)
Penatration = Spear (Zero shot sound, single hit armor pierce?)
Dance of blow = staff (bolt cast sound, loads of hits)
Underhand Drop = Tonfa (Zero shot sound, single hit)
Bisection = Axe (Shining wave sound, single hit)
Pulerization = Blunt (Wall smash sound, single hit)
Explosion = Unarmed no tonfa/sheild (Zero shot sound and graphic on hit, sound damage?)

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is 100 posts over autosage, if no one noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

Ehekatl has nothing on Chen

[Anonymous No.]

>>10825511
Just for future reference, wishing as "#(skill name)" has seemed to be a pretty safe way to do anything. I've never gotten a false result like typing out "skill(skill name)". It's pretty damn awful to screw up a wish nowadays, since Wizard Harvest doesn't give wish rods anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824286
>>10824220

it took me 8+ Aqua Sanctio to kill that fucking dog same for Yerleswood

god knows how many it take for me to kill that faggot zombie now


>>10824478

If it has not been added yet the Evo forum of the Beetle Kabuterion gets super armor

[Anonymous No.]

>>10825873
On the bright side they put that 5% minimum cast chance back on though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10826006
Yeah, I was trying to get a guy to check some bit flags for me, since it's nearly impossible to guess what gets set sometimes. The japanese wiki isn't very consistent about what they've added about that, although they're great for stats, not to mention the actual evolutions.

Personally, I like the idea of people getting a lot of use out of some of the more obscure evos. I saw the guy earlier with the 3 level 500 or whatever yerles planes, and all I could think of was WHY HAVEN'T YOU EVOLVED THEM? Someone actually using them can provide a lot more details about them, too.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, and on the subject of bit flags, if anyone has any opinions about where on the damn wiki would be a good place to reference them, it'd be nice to hear it. The custom NPC page would sort of make sense because they are originally listed in the creation file for those...but no one might think to look there. They could get their own page too, but it'd be awfully small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10826093
I haven't evolved them as I'm constantly raising dominate and will likely find even higher ones sooner or later (683 effective dominate now). Might even be getting things with 2000 in all base stats making most evolutions pointless, unless its for things like life/mana, actions, res, spells ect.

Even then, I generally don't use what I capture except one pet to ride. I can one shot every unscaled enemy and even siva (with magic equip, rampage and charge crystal spear hit I him for 741910 damage) making pet use almost unnecessary.

At this point its more for collection and seeing how good otherwise weak monster get at high levels. Here is most of the things I've captured, should give you an idea what I'm having to fight these days, for a mere 5k gold and 3 platinum usually.
http://imgur.com/a/8jLfd

[Anonymous No.]

how to get patting skill?

[Anonymous No.]

Am I going to need to update my character.bmp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10826910

they sould work normaly unless they did some thing to the bmps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10826978
>>10826910
They added two creatures, if the roguelike general on /vg/ is correct. A lava golem and something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10826888
nevermind

[Anonymous No.]

Anyones compost heaps disappear entirely?

[Anonymous No.]

my farm was moved by system?
how to move it back again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10827432

reset the map and they come back

update put hard cap on them now 5

[Anonymous No.]

What made me think this was a good idea...

[Anonymous No.]

is there any way to get guillotine and iron maiden?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10827855
Guillotines are randomly generated inside dungeons. I'm not too sure about iron maidens, though. I still haven't found one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10827872
I think he meant that you can't 'get' it because even stealing it will activate its instant-death effect.

>>10827855
I think the only chance for you to get one is if you are able to buy it off from somewhere or come across one that you can readily pick it up. I've no clue as to where or how such a thing could happen, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10827889
Yeah, that's what I mean. The ones you find in dungeons aren't really owned by anyone and is safe for pick up.

[Anonymous No.]

Can executioners be good pets?
Just got one from my ranch and I rarely see them so.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else getting crashes in dungeons with 1.19 with the following error?

HspError 13 WinError 2 Ver 2240 Mode 0
efId 704 efP 28 Area 460/2
ci 0#67 ti 0#568 cc 4#354 tc 72#42 rc 71#11
3. main_init:Begin ct:245
2. main_init:End ct:0
1. pc_turn_init ct:0
0. turn_end:pc ct:0

[Anonymous No.]

>>10828012
I got something like when I opened the description of some equipment I got before. It didn't happen again when I reloaded, though.

You expect these things of constantly evolving systems anyway. No big deal in my case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10824180
>Also, shield bashes can now only be used if your HP is no less than 6/7.
Isn't that a pretty big nerf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10828645
gigantic nerf

[Anonymous No.]

>>10828645
But I think that, if the chances of it activating scales up with your shield skill, it wouldn't be all that bad.