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Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:52:29 2013 No.10772863 [Reply] [Original]

Why are protagonists of the most popular VNs always so idiots?

Shirou: "Girls shouldn't fight!!"

Takeru: "Let's be together as noble confidants forever ?"

Okabe: "MAD SCIENTISTO HUHU"

Kurosu: "Let me see your panties"

Chris: "derp derp"

Maejima: "I don't want to dress like a girl!! Stop. How did this happen?"

Wil: "I can't say I don't want to have sex with you, but let's not...Okay of you demand..."

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:54:44 2013 No.10772867 what is a vn?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:57:28 2013 No.10772870 Girls shouldn't fight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:57:58 2013 No.10772872 "such", OP, not "so".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:06:28 2013 No.10772881 Girls really shouldn't fight. They're at a physical disadvantage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:17:43 2013 No.10772897 >>10772881 That's what your mom said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:18:43 2013 No.10772900 Okabe is crazy, not an idiot. And Shirou is a retarded monkey/man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:23:43 2013 No.10772909 >>10772881 Not in a gunfight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:25:44 2013 No.10772915 Because you're not supposed to take them or anything happening seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:26:58 2013 No.10772917 Shirou's problems are fixed in the final route. He's intentionally made to look like an idiot in Fate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:40:29 2013 No.10772952 >>10772909 That's wrong though. They're still at a physical disadvantage in a gunfight. Their arms can't handle firing guns as well as a man's arms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 05:56:28 2013 No.10772969 >>10772952 The difference is so negligible as to be non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:00:58 2013 No.10772976 >>10772969 That's a lie. No matter how much people try to brainwash you, you should at least hold on to common sense. Their arms could practically snap from firing a gun with a lot of kick to it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:09:46 2013 No.10772982

>>10772976
>Their arms could practically snap from firing a gun with a lot of kick to it.

Sounds like you're the one being brainwashed, friend. Besides which, people generally don't use weapons like that in a gunfight. The weapons that get used in a gunfight can easily be handled by both men and women.

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:16:13 2013 No.10772988

>>10772863
>>10772870
>>10772881
>>10772900
>>10772917

Shirou doesn't really give a fuck about gender.
Shirou doesn't think ANYBODY should fight. The "girls shouldn't fight" complaint was a paper-thin excuse he threw out to cover up his broken mentality that he couldn't explain, how his survival instinct is utterly shot and he intrinsically accepts everyone else as more valuable than him. (Thus, the possibility that someone could get hurt defending him, is completely unacceptable)

Read the fucking VN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:31:13 2013 No.10773018 >>10772988 That doesn't change the fact that Shirou is a retarded monkeyman.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:32:28 2013 No.10773019 >>10772900 But he's actually putting on an act to try to make Mayuri feel better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:33:43 2013 No.10773024 >>10772863 Naoe Yamato is pretty smart.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:41:28 2013 No.10773039 >>10773018 He's actually fairly intelligent once you get past the no-sense-of-self-preservation and ridiculously stunted social skills. He has a knack for analysis and strong intuition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:41:58 2013 No.10773041 >>10772863 holy fuck she has long arms

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:45:43 2013 No.10773045 >>10772863 How about Saya no Uta's Protag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:47:58 2013 No.10773047 Because Japanese need a good self insert

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 06:48:13 2013 No.10773048 What about まじこい?

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:02:13 2013 No.10773072

>>10772988
>Shirou doesn't really give a fuck about gender.
Got anything to back this up? Example on Fate route he doesn't resist Rin orders Archer to go fight Berserker, but same time he is like "Saber, Saber please don't fight poor girl ;_;".

He is just idealistic and naive kid. No wonder why people on /jp/ like F/SN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:03:28 2013 No.10773076 >>10773045 Annoying shithead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:03:28 2013 No.10773077 >>10773048 u mena マジ恋

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:23:43 2013 No.10773110 File: 55 KB, 450x360, lancer-and-tsun-tsun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10773041 Everyone is F/SN has long arms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:35:58 2013 No.10773125 I dunno, that Kurosu person sounds like he has his priorities set in the right order. Here's a protip OP: stop reading poorly written VN. Especially TM shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 07:56:28 2013 No.10773156 >>10773125 Question is, why VNs with shit protagonists, are the most popular? If we are analysing only translated ones, only Akabeisoft's VNs have decent protagonists.

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 08:01:44 2013 No.10773169

>>10773072

Shirou had no problem with Archer's sacrifice because it was to protect Rin and Saber too. He has no self-preservation, the preservation of others is important to him.
Saber at the time was ridiculously weak and letting her fight would be futile anyway.

He has absolutely no issues with letting Rin fight Caster in UBW or Rin and Rider battling in HF. He doesn't want anyone at all fighting to protect him. He doesn't appreciate them fighting at all, but he's not terrified about people fighting for their own reasons as he is of someone fighting to protect him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 08:05:13 2013 No.10773179 >>10773125 He can't, he only knows English so he only has 5% of VN available and most of them are bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 08:10:13 2013 No.10773189 I think my top 5 protags are from VNs that are considered popular so I'm not really seeing the problem. That's a rather random list you have there in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 09:22:29 2013 No.10773368 >>10772863 cuz you can related to them. That's all. Japanese men don't have personality, they're bored and pervert.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 09:33:13 2013 No.10773394 sakura gets me so hot and bothered even today must be the worms

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:18:58 2013 No.10773492

There are also plenty of intelligent VN protagonists. As someone mentioned before, Okabe is just crazy, he's actually quite intelligent. Remember11's Satoru Yukidoh is also a genius. G-Senjou's Kyousuke is also quite capable considering how young he is, Majikoi's protagonist is known for being intelligent, Grisaia's protagonist is almost robot-like in his rationalism at times, and so on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:22:13 2013 No.10773499 File: 562 KB, 503x851, Satoru.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So who is the most intelligent VN protagonist? I'd say Satoru ranks up there quite highly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:28:28 2013 No.10773511 >serious discussion about fate/gay shite nerds

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:32:43 2013 No.10773518 File: 101 KB, 667x540, our-lord-and-savior.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is why we need more protagonists like this nigger here - even while being high as fuck on LSD he still maintains his calm and wit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:46:43 2013 No.10773534 >>10773518 Your 'nigger' is white. What is this nonsense, Anonymous? Do you take me for a fool?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:53:28 2013 No.10773557 Makes it easier for you to relate

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 10:59:58 2013 No.10773576 >>10773499 Remember11 was nonsense, so it doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 11:02:13 2013 No.10773587 Because shit with retarded protagonists is mostly what gets translated

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 11:03:13 2013 No.10773588 >>10773534 I apologize for making a misleading post, but please calm down, you are making me uncomfortable and to be frank a bit scared.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 16:07:02 2013 No.10774478 Gii from Sekien no Inganock is the best protag from a translated VN

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 17:13:17 2013 No.10774665

They're supposed to be losers that the readers can project themselves onto. They're often boring, crazy, and/or perverted, kind of like otaku. A lame protag makes the affections of the girls more sincere because they unconditionally love such an average/awful person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 17:30:32 2013 No.10774712 >>10774665 That's kind of depressing. Still, the average protag is more passable than the average reader. Look at Shirou. Hard working handyman, can cook, polite, has goals, not afraid to fight for his woman/women. Bitches would be all over him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:14:59 2013 No.10774867 >>10772863 forgot Rance "lol rape gahaha"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:33:03 2013 No.10774927 >>10774867 Rance is not that stupid. When it comes to increasing his rape count he can be quite cunning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:40:19 2013 No.10774945 >>10774712 Bitches would friendzone him. ftfy

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:45:18 2013 No.10774964 >>10774927 yeah, he is not stupid. he is an annoying shithead though

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:57:33 2013 No.10775006 >>10774964 You sound jealous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 18:58:18 2013 No.10775011 >>10774945 >friendzoning a useful non-pansy All well, not like he's seeking bitches. They come to him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 19:24:33 2013 No.10775134 >>10775006 yeah man you got me, i'm mad jelly salty

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 20:27:49 2013 No.10775457
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>>10774927
>>10774964
Rance definitely is stupid. He's a great warrior, but when it comes to rational matters he always goes with the easiest possible way or proposes something completely dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 20:35:49 2013 No.10775506 File: 188 KB, 1440x810, NyarukoEeehh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So are people in real life OP: "I'm a fag"

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 14:18:04 2013 No.10778586 >>10772988 >>10773024 >>10773041 >>10773045 >>10773368 >>10774867 >Quoting the OP Literally retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 14:26:10 2013 No.10778633 File: 7 KB, 256x192, arnoldsides.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My sides.........

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 09:08:22 2013 No.10782422 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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