What are your thoughts are the term vocaloidist and your opinion on vocaloid in general?

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Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:27:56 2013 No.10735546 [Reply] [Original]

What are your thoughts are the term vocaloidist and your opinion on vocaloid in general?

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:29:25 2013 No.10735552

>vocaloidist

Is this someone who produces songs using Vocaloid, or is it more specifically someone who uses Vocaloid in the same way a keyboardist uses a keyboard?

Either way, it might be a useful word.

But your poster sucks and cuts off the text at the bottom. It's also the wrong font. Nice colour, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:30:10 2013 No.10735556 Off-topic, but I hate those KEEP CALM AND posters for everything. It's not even clever. Vocaloid is fine in the hands of talented producers. Don't like the fanbase around it, but I enjoy the work that goes into the good songs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:31:40 2013 No.10735559 It sounds fake and robotic. I started a fire.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:32:26 2013 No.10735565 I like Kai Yuuki and the others suck.

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:33:40 2013 No.10735574

>>10735556
>Off-topic, but I hate those KEEP CALM AND posters for everything. It's not even clever.

The original poster was pretty straightforward and charming. I'm surprised they never used it.

Of course, it's exactly the sort of catchphrase that lends itself to being a snowclone. Plus it was an old thing that was rediscovered, and that makes it hip and vintage.

I just want to be able to have nice things again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:35:10 2013 No.10735584 File: 198 KB, 683x555, voder03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10735559 Robot voices are best voices. http://davidszondy.com/future/robot/daisy.wav ^ American Vocaloid, from 1939.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:36:11 2013 No.10735590 >>10735574 They never used it because the attack that they predicted that was going to happen and require the propaganda campaign never happened.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:39:40 2013 No.10735601 >vocaloidist Wow is this another shitty term weaboos on tumblr made up? seriously OP get out.

sage !2PmDKLNHkc Thu Apr 11 22:42:25 2013 No.10735611
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Real vocaloidists don't need a label to justify their interest. I like Vocaloid and think they will get more acceptance in the future.

To the point where there will be more Miku threads than 2hu on /jp/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:43:10 2013 No.10735613 Less than 2,000 hits in Google (mostly usernames and spam) and one of the top results is the generator page for this image. Is this like when people tried to invent a technical-sounding term for 2D love that never caught on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:44:40 2013 No.10735618 The term sounds stupid, but if it's what they're using I don't really care. I enjoy listening to Vocaloid songs from time to time but sometimes it is very hard for me to make out what they're saying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:46:55 2013 No.10735626 File: 155 KB, 900x1116, oliver.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do English Vocaloids work? How do you input phonemes?

>>	Freezing !BASARADtDc Thu Apr 11 22:47:40 2013 No.10735628 Vocaloid doesnt deserve a fanbase

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:48:40 2013 No.10735630 By 2030 almost all voice acting, music production, etc. will be done by synthesised voices.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:49:55 2013 No.10735636 I liked vocaloid once. Then the repetitive nature of hearing the same voices over and over drove me to hate it because all the songs just seem to run together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:49:55 2013 No.10735637 >>10735613 KEEP CALM and BE A WAIFUOLOGIST :DDD

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:50:11 2013 No.10735640 >>10735626 The same way you do with the Japanese ones (But the phonemes are different than in Japanese if that's what you are asking)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:53:10 2013 No.10735646 >>10735630 Not...even today people have robot/machine phobia and do jobs by hand that would be better automated.

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:53:55 2013 No.10735647

>>10735630
No way.

I was watching an episode of Computer Chronicles from the 80s or early 90s, and they were pretty much stuck on the same problems as today. The vocals were too perfect-sounding, and that will always be a problem. We're so used to human speech that synthesis will sound robotic for quite some time. You don't have the weird little nuances human voices have, either due to creativity or the physical aspects of singing.

What we need first is a physical larynx simulator. Get to it, MIT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:55:10 2013 No.10735651 >>10735637 Well, I am certainly an expert in my waifu Flandre after learning the ways of Touhouism!

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:55:56 2013 No.10735652

>>10735630
I hope convincing artificial voice boxes become commonplace relatively soon. I hate my voice. (I guess I should at least attempt some kind of voice training, apparently it's not outright impossible for adult males to develop proper sounding little girl voices with enough practice...)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:57:40 2013 No.10735655 >>10735652 There are pirateable voice types for that sort of thing. Train your voice with do-re-mi exercises, then watch YouTube tutorials from expert traps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:58:10 2013 No.10735657 >>10735647 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bnFEb3qrT0 It's getting there

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:03:40 2013 No.10735667 I want this guy's voice: http://youtu.be/ThTMD_fzpy8?t=6m15s Takes some mad skill to not only write yourself into a game, but to talk to yourself as one of the female characters too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:06:56 2013 No.10735672 http://youtu.be/0mwXiIM9Si0 Getting there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:06:56 2013 No.10735675 >>10735657 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xcVzLGe82Y Also this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:08:55 2013 No.10735679 >>10735675 >[UTAU] Keep your toys to yourself. The professionals are talking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:09:25 2013 No.10735681 >>10735672 Voiceroid is too monotone but they are better than most TTS programs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:10:10 2013 No.10735685 >>10735679 It's about the realism not how much money you spend anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHIPynQLglA

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:17:26 2013 No.10735695 If they were real artists, they wouldn't have to invent a separate term to distinguish themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:21:56 2013 No.10735711 >>10735695 "Vocalodist" is a name some fan came up (Obviously) with it not something popular users of the software call themselves so please take your talk of "real artists" somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:38:56 2013 No.10735742 >>10735695 When you look at art of any kind, especially in the last 100 or so years, you'll see that a catchy name is more often than not a half of success already. Or maybe you realize that and just hate modern art in its entirety.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:47:56 2013 No.10735757 >>10735742 Vocaloidist isn't even catchy. It just sounds dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 23:58:58 2013 No.10735801 >>10735546 vocaloid is garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:05:43 2013 No.10736436 I don't even understand why people are liking Vocaloid. They are computer generated for god sake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:08:13 2013 No.10736438 >>10736436 So is all electronic music. The pieces, however, are arranged by humans (for now).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:10:43 2013 No.10736442 >>10736438 Electronic tracks and electronic voices are different fields to begin with, in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous of third world count(...) Fri Apr 12 05:27:43 2013 No.10736459 >>10736436 If you mean Vocaloid characters, I totally agree. They are like mascots with no personality, how can ANYONE actually like them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:28:43 2013 No.10736460 >>10736459 ...here we go.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:29:44 2013 No.10736461 >>10736436 >>10736459 Its amazing how narrow minded /jp/ is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:30:58 2013 No.10736463 >>10736459 >>10736460 that reminds me of another popular thing where most content is made by fans, but I'm not quite sure what it was

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:32:28 2013 No.10736468 >>10736459 If you change the word vocaloid by AKB48 or any of the morning musume stuff you'll get the same result.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:32:43 2013 No.10736470 >>10736463 Does it begin with T? Im trying really hard to remember.

>>	Anonymous of third world count(...) Fri Apr 12 05:32:58 2013 No.10736471 >>10736460 I am not hating, I am simply asking the Vocaloid fan since it is beyond my comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:33:28 2013 No.10736472 >>10736459 Because the most important thing in music is not the music but the personality of the singer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:33:58 2013 No.10736474 >>10736471 >beyond my comprehension Well theres your problem

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:38:59 2013 No.10736478 >>10736472 Is this a joke?

>>	Anonymous of third world count(...) Fri Apr 12 05:44:28 2013 No.10736482 obviously >>10736472 is a sarcasm. But the Vocaloid fan seems into the character wayyy more than the music itself. Anyway I get it now

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 08:36:15 2013 No.10736714
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Im studying a Music Career on the university because Vocaloid.
The last month I talked with a teacher, and he get interested in the technology.
Anyways, he gives me the dvd's from Symphonic Choirs.

I think Symphonic Choirs > Vocaloid

Can we share our creations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:01:00 2013 No.10736742 >Vocaloidist So, basically these people don't care about making music and are just in it because "Miku iz kawaii and Oliver and Len are kawaii shotas singing mah songs lel here's Big Al singing Levan Polkaa guise x3"? I hate it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:18:00 2013 No.10736772 >>10736742 THIS. Anon is always me ♥

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:24:00 2013 No.10736784 The only good vocaloid I've heard is oster project. The rest is hobbyist shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:30:15 2013 No.10736792 >>10736742 this

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:39:30 2013 No.10736807 >>10736742 Vocaloidist = Vocaloid secondary?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 09:56:30 2013 No.10736846 >>10736784 Oster Project is a producer. So, you mean Oster does good songs? I think you didn't heard DECO*27 song or Jin (from Kagerou Project). Take this song o/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONyfbDPc7y0

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 10:13:46 2013 No.10736873

>>10736846
OSTER's best songs are piano/keyboard instrument stuff
look up demon fire or blue rose or 13th friday or dazzling destiny

even that song they did for sengoku collection was better than most of their vocaloid stuff imo

kagerou daze is one of their best vocaloid songs though if not the best

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 11:13:30 2013 No.10737024
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>>10736438
>The pieces, however, are arranged by humans (for now).

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/dan/mysong/

We just need some way to algorithmically generate lyrics, and we're set. Shouldn't be too difficult given how simple most pop songs are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 23:27:19 2013 No.10739486 >>10735801 It's not, but thank you for your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:50:36 2013 No.10741009 >>10739486 It is. Take your shit taste and get the fuck out of here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:53:51 2013 No.10741015 >>10741009 I bet you think that your taste is superior because you listen to some /mu/ hipster garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:49:36 2013 No.10741381 >>10741015 No, I also hate ambient noise crap. Now fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 12:06:21 2013 No.10741435 It's overrated, just like Touhou. And I don't like pop music in general either way.

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