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What method did you guys use to get SSI benefits? Did you use the "suicidal" method, or did you go some other route? Because I want to receive SSI, but I don't want to lose the privilege of being able to get a concealed carry permit because of mental instability. I mean, if it comes down to only being able to have one or the other, that's fine, I was just wondering if anybody had any insight on this.

Other than that, what other ways do you guys go about supporting your NEET lifestyle? I would very much like to know.

>> No.10664073

come up with a disablity that can't be fixed and fake it

sleeping disorders
back problems
autism
many are easy to fake
then you just need to get in contact with doctors and government

>> No.10664122

They forgot to stop my education benefits when I dropped out. That, and I get "DLA" (disability living allowance) for a bunch of mental stuff.

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>>10664073

>implying autism is real
>implying back problems and sleeping issues cant be fixed

>> No.10664154

>born native american
>they literally throw money at me

that /jp/ dream

>> No.10664160

Parents support me, they were surprisingly understanding since anxiety apparently runs in the family, I just seem to have it worse than most.

One psychologist I was seeing last year implied I was messed up enough to get benefits, but it seems like an awful lot of hoops to jump through to get, so I continue my zero income hiki lifestyle.

It'd be nice to have some money, but I'd rather just not have to go outside.

>> No.10664162

Lose a leg, and complain about ghost pains and trauma.

You won't be mental enough to lose your guns, but enough to get SSI. Of course, that is if you can work up the balls to willingly lose a leg.

>> No.10664201

>>10664073
Will those methods be as fast as the suicidal method though?

>> No.10664231

>>10664131
>implying it's actually back problems
http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/1.00-Musculoskeletal-Adult.htm


http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/AdultListings.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/ChildhoodListings.htm

read these and see if you qualify for them you can even apply on their website. being physically disabled doesn't mean you can't have a gun. the state has to declare you legally insane as in you being in and out of mental hospitals and taking 10 pills per day.

>> No.10664237

American problems:
>become wrek'd 4 lyfe
>"Can I still keep my guns?"

>> No.10664248

About two months ago we tried applying for benefits for me since I should be able to get low-rate DLA, but efforts seem to have stalled from my parents, I should ask about it again. All I want to do is stay inside and import my chinese cartoons and chinese cartoon accessories.

>> No.10664289

Do you think it would be possible to get SSI for ADD? It's pretty much the only thing I have going for me, besides being depressed when I was going to school, took Prozac for a while but stopped after I dropped out

>> No.10664643

>>10664231
So, are you saying that even if I claim to be suicidal and get institutionalized just the once for 72 hours, it won't be enough for them to deny me a concealed carry permit? That I'd have to be legally declared insane by the state for that to happen? Please respond.

>>10664237
>>10664154
>>10664131
Who are you quoting friend?

>> No.10664662

>>10664643
Why do you need a concealed weapon?

>> No.10664665

Wanting a conceal carry permit implies you want to go outside, ya phony. If you want to leave your house you should dig a tunnel, and then you can carry all the guns you want without government interference.

>> No.10664669

>>10664643
it varies by state. you need to read your states statutes for exact details. they do a mental health check and if your little trip to the hospital found you be a mentally ill person who's dangerous to yourself or others then it's quite possibly you'll be denied. some states have more strict and thorough checks than others which is why the new law going through congress is trying to make it easier to deny people who have any mental health history which is sketchy.

>> No.10664672

>>10664643
what's your worry about a concealed permit anyway? do you even own a gun? you usually need training and sometimes even a police application to get. you should be more worried if you can actually clear the screening when you try and buy a handgun let alone worrying about a cc permit.

>> No.10664671 [DELETED] 

It doesn't look like I can get money this way living in Canada. Time to die.

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Hey, OP, you remember that movie "Alien: Resurrection" don'tcha?

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Dear OP,

Fuck you, and go to North Korea.

Lovingly from,
All of America

>> No.10664695

>>10664154

can I lie and say I'm native american?

>> No.10664698

>>10664154
>>10664695
I once knew this black guy with a card that he could use at literally any food store that has a card machine and he could order as much food as he wanted just because he was part native.

>> No.10664727

>>10664681
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=df8_1362850413
you wish america was 1/10 as good as north korea, pig. hope you enjoy your daily snow soup and pigeon meal.

>> No.10664781

oh jesus christ
i got no fuckin job man

>> No.10664811

I went with "suicidal tendencies, social anxiety, and depression."

It's pretty hard to argue with self-harm scars, I've noticed. Just rip up an arm or something, tell everyone you have the classic symptoms of depression (lethargy, no motivation etc etc) and are afraid of going outside. You'll have autismbux in no time.

Of course, it helps if you actually are this way, and have supporting evidence from family members to enforce this. Shouldn't be too hard for a /jp/ member.

Make sure to read Uncle Remus' guide if you haven't already done so.

>> No.10665457

>>10664672
I already own some guns, yes.

>>10664674
Yeah, what about it?

>>10664811
Well alright.

>> No.10665470

I just leech my parents.

I got into an agreement with them that if I do the the cleaning of the house they'll allow me to stay AND give me an allowance of $200 each month.

Pretty good of a country with zero welfare benefits.

>> No.10665505

Can I get any money from the government if I have a full time job? Anything I can get would really help.

>> No.10665513

>>10664811
Certainly doesn't work that way in the UK, unfortunately - though maybe that's due to lack of actual self harm and / or not pressing about the money.

I finished a hellish double digit number of therapy sessions some time last year, suicidal ideation, depression, severe social anxiety and hinted at the possibility of aspergers, though I didn't really pursue that any further after it was mentioned, the focus was the social anxiety.

No autismbux - though that might be due to me not inquiring hard enough as to if I was eligible, but fuck - talking to people is hard, let alone initiating a conversation subject.

A year or so later and I'm back on the waiting list for more sessions, these ones scare me - since the gist of it in the preliminary interview was that you get around four sessions max, if no progress is made you're out, which with a new psychologist I doubt I'd even be prepared to open up, let alone try to do the normalfag activities they seem to consider fundamental to me integrating into society, hard enough going outside - a 10min visit to the shop results in feeling like I've ran a marathon and just wanting to be sick, let alone joining a fucking club or some bullshit.

I envy how easy /jp/ makes it sound to get money in America, though I'd rather have no money than go outside.

>> No.10665594

>>10665470
This is what I'm doing. When my parents are at work I clean the house, buy groceries, do laundry etc. Everybody is happy with this. It looks like I can live like this forever.

>> No.10665590

>>10665470
Nice.

>>10665513
Aw dang, sorry to hear that dude.

>> No.10665601

>>10665513
Every single time I've heard mention of welfarebux in Europe, everyone has mentioned how easy it was to attain.

I definitely wouldn't press about money in any manner, though. In fact, you should do the opposite and stress that you have no idea what you'd even spend that shit on (cause naturally you have no real interests. That's part of depression.) Talking about money sends warning bells in their heads.

Did you actually study the clinical "symptoms" of anxiety? I'd wager they don't really want to hear how it personally effects you, since, depending on how you word it, that could differ from what they expect. Keep things simple and easy.

Above all, be absolutely honest in how you are feeling, even if you're currently lying your ass off.

>> No.10665657

Not quite NEET but I get over $200 every two weeks just for being in education, I think it's $268 a fortnight now.
I got an additional $100 'income support bonus' this week for nothing.
Get TAFE course - get money.

This is in Australia by the way, Centrelink God Bless.

>> No.10665710

You know, I usually save all these threads because whenever someone argues with me that psychology is not a phony profession full of bullshit, I just make them read these.

Keep gaming the system, /jp/.

>> No.10665726

>>10665594
Until your parents die. Cherish them while you can, because if you reach that age and you still haven't done shit for yourself you'll probably be in trouble.

>> No.10665794

>>10665601
>Did you actually study the clinical "symptoms" of anxiety? I'd wager they don't really want to hear how it personally effects you.

I spent years trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with me, so I suppose that counts as studying the clinical symptoms of anxiety.

Getting a diagnosis of having severe anxiety issues wasn't a problem, not leaving the house for years, panic attacks and a family history of anxiety problems means I've got that and prettymuch had the depression label thrust upon me, I realise I'm "technically" depressed, I struggle to enjoy things I used to, have zero energy, struggle to sleep etc - but frankly, I struggle to think of myself as depressed now compared to how it was like when I was having to leave the house each day and spent most of it wishing I was throwing myself infront of the train, instead of getting on it.

My current reclusive life is, bar the guilt, lack of money and fear of homelessness if I don't "get better", is heaven in comparison.

I've never had to lie about my problems, if anything they're getting the light version of it, since I'm terrified of opening up. The diagnosis is done, they just seem intent on trying to either fix me, which terrifies me - or leaving me be in the hope that I magically get "better" on my own.

If there is any money available for the diagnosis I have, then they certainly haven't made it clear, and I'm not wanting to bring it up myself for the reasons you've stated - but I hate being a burden to my parents, who were far more understanding than I feel I have any right to deserve, being able to support myself to some degree would at least make me feel less guilty about it.

I'm just worried my upcoming sessions are going to go nowhere, which I expect will be the case - since I feel far from ready to throw myself back into society, then I'll be left in limbo - no income, no therapy and having to trust in my parents generosity, which baffles me as is.
Unfortunately, I'm not faking it.

>> No.10665858

>>10665794
I'm across the pond, obviously, so I have no idea what kind of laws would be to your benefit. I was lucky enough to have the psychologist bring it up for me, so they provided a natural out. Unfortunately, it seems like you'll have to research the equivalent for yourself, and try to steer the conversation in that direction.

I know how you feel about depression, though. Before, when I was regularly forced to venture outside of my house, I was actively thinking of ways to die (without ever acting on it,) but now I'm "suffering" under the regular effects of depression. This is a huge step up for me, but I don't really feel right telling people about it like this. Doesn't really feel like they'd understand.

I don't really know what to say, though. If you really feel like a terrible burden to your parents, then make sure to actually mention this in your upcoming sessions. That could actually be a good way to segue into your monetary situation, or lack thereof. I don't think it's so drastically different in the UK that you wouldn't be able to get some form of welfare, with how you are.

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>> No.10667385

I won 80 million dollars.

>> No.10667411

>>10667385
Well damn. What have you been spending it on?

>> No.10667417

>>10667411
ass toys

>> No.10667655

>>10667417
Good. Good.

>> No.10667666

>>10667329
Shut up.

>> No.10667685

how are your NEET sleeping patterns? my natural body clock seems to be sleep around 6.30am until around 2pm.

>> No.10667695

>>10667685
2am to 2-3pm usually.

>> No.10667700

>>10667695

12 hour of full sleep? if I try to sleep earlier than 6.30 I just toss and turn and wake up like clockwork at 2.30-2.45.

>> No.10667722

>>10667685

are you me?!

>> No.10667731

>>10667685

Random, really. Sometimes I go to sleep at 12 AM and wake up at 8 PM, other times I go to sleep at 6 AM and wake up at 6 PM.

>> No.10667739

>>10667685
It moves forward about 30-60 minutes each day.

>> No.10667752

No permit needed to carry concealed here in Arizona, you just need to be 21 or older.

>> No.10667794

>>10667739
Woah, mine too. It cycles and I spent some weeks being awake during day and others being awake during night. It sucks during summer since the days are so hot, so I wish I could just sleep through them all.

>> No.10667800

>>10667752
Whoa, sweet. Thanks for that info.

>> No.10667806

>>10667700
Yeah. It's awful, I know, but I have no self control when it comes to waking up. My alarm is across my room, and I have to tap on a digital cicada that hops around on it's screen fifty times, but even after all of that, my body still wants more sleep. So I give it to it.

>> No.10667815

>>10667806
More like you have no will power whatsoever. On days I have to do something, I have no problem going to bed at 2 am and waking up a 9 am, but if I have nothing to do at all the next day, I can easily go to bed at 1 am and wake up at 12 pm.

>> No.10667841

>>10667815
>On days I have to do something
Nice try anon.

>> No.10667842

>ITT: Welfare faggots that don't actually need welfare

Please don't be American.

>> No.10667843

Fun Fact: NOBODY on /jp/ is on SSI, and no, you can NOT live off the system forever like /jp/ makes you believe. My mom conned my dad into having me and my sister just to get child support and food stamps so she didn't have to work (openly admitted this, proudly). After her child support ran out, she had more kids with another man and moved out of state once she maxed out benefits here. They eventually found out and stopped her benefits completely.

She's working at a Burger King right now 30+ hours a week just to make ends meet.

Unless you are SEVERELY disabled, you won't be on autism bux forever. Why do you think the majority of people you seem homeless (NOT in homeless shelters, I mean homeless as in on the side of the road or in tents in parks/under the bridge) are old people? The reason they give you autism bux when you're young is to give you a future. If you throw away that future, do you honestly think they'll still give you free autism bux at age 40? 50? After you reach a certain age where you're too old to take care of yourself, they'll transport you to a "special care home" for the old and homeless. There is no Internet, no 2hus, and no /jp/.

I remember when I was about 10 or 11 years old, I said I wouldn't make it past the age of 30. I plan on "going to Gensokyo" very soon myself, so it looks like I was correct.

>> No.10667848

>>10667843
> 30+ hours a week
That isn't very much.

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>>10667843
sad story bro

>> No.10667858

>>10667842
I would actually prefer that single male neets got welfare then lazy leeching niggers and their hell spawns
at least neets don't cause crimes & ruin property values

>> No.10667859

>>10667843
>The reason they give you autism bux when you're young is to give you a future
Implying that I'm not going to use my autismbux to make more money when I start receiving them. Don't you know that you're not supposed to use your own money to make more money? Didn't you learn anything from the Rothschild Jew overlords?

>> No.10667873

>>10667848

She lives in a one-bedroom apartment and pays only $600 a month. She no longer gets child support, but she still managed to get food stamps (I know there's a limit, but she somehow found a way around it, don't ask me how). Even though she doesn't work full time, she can still barely afford to pay the rent and utilities. She trades her food stamps for cash just to buy cigarettes while her children eat garbage food. I feel so sorry for them since I know the crap they went through.

>>10667849

Do you think I take going to Gensokyo lightly? I may not be able to hold a conversation IRL for more than a minute or two, but I could type for hours and hours about all the crap I've seen and have put up with.

>>10667859

>Rothschild Jew overlords

The Rothschilds are not Jewish. They are Khazarish. If you're trolling to be ironic, then fine, but if you're being serious, you need to do some more research.

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>>10667873

>but I could type for hours and hours about all the crap I've seen and have put up with.

tl;dr waaaah

>> No.10667883

>>10667873
It was a half ironic, half serious post. The serious part being about how they initially made their money off of other people's money. Well, that and war.

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>>10667873
>Do you think I take [shitposting retarded memes] lightly?
No, not at all.

>> No.10667889

>>10667878

Have you seen those "hood" videos on YouTube where the niggers are acting like niggers? You think they're just "acting" to be popular are YouTube? Those places ACTUALLY EXIST dude.

>>10667883

That's partially true. A lot of their original wealth is do to hundreds of years of passed down tradition, and another lot comes from being in control, deliberately devaluing things, buying up those things at super cheap prices, and then raising the prices of things again so they make ridiculous 100,000%+ profits.

>> No.10667887

>>10667843
You are partially right, amigo.

I was on SSI. They cut me just a few weeks ago though. It did not bother me conscious wise either, my parents have payed taxes that amount dozens of times more than what the government gave me back. I will eventually become another taxpayer too, so they should see it an investment.

I find it hard to believe that normies get mad at us when it's the rich fat cats at wall st and jew york that are reaping in bailouts and evade taxes while outsourcing workers, but I digress. I just want these people to know who the real criminals are.

>> No.10667890

>>10667887
Why did you get cut exactly?

>> No.10667897

>>10667886

Oh Orin, I hope you'll serve me a 99 cent Chocolate Frosty with a side of freshly cooked fries if you know what I mean...

>>10667887

The system will never change. If the bankers ever see a small group coming anywhere near taking them over, they'll bomb themselves, blame it on "patriot-loving terrorists", and start a civil war. All the American Idol tards and football maniacs will eat it up. When America burns to the ground, they'll all be in China or wherever to start their new empire.

>> No.10667898

>>10667843
>>10667873
>>10667889
>>10667897
you need to get some help

>> No.10667905

>>10667889
My point though, is that I'll be able to make more money for myself off of the governments money that they're giving me, should I invest said money wisely. Hence, making money off of someone else's money.

>> No.10667902

>>10667890
They didn't tell me. I have a chance to appeal, but I see little hope in being reliant to an unreliable system, so I'll just let things pass and move on.

>> No.10667908

>>10667873
Would you like to talk to me sometime? ;_; Please do not be sad.

>> No.10667913

>>10667902
Well that's interesting. I never even considered that autismbux could run out, or that I could be cut off from them for seemingly no reason. You have given me a lot to think about anon.

>> No.10667924

>>10667898

I already did. I won't go into details, but it basically boils down to too many faggots trying to buck the system while the people who really need help get very little due to everything being overcrowded. There are nearly 47 MILLION people in the US on food stamps. That's around 1 in 6 people.

>>10667908

I was sad back in 2002. I'm beyond that point now. I'm not emotionless, but happiness (not euphoria; I mean being content and at peace) is not something I haven't had in a long time. The closest I can get to happiness is when I think about mai waifu (hurr durr memes so funny xD) while reaching a climax during fapping.

Sad, I know, but I'm too apathetic to care anymore.

>> No.10667926 [DELETED] 

I post something negative about the UK and I get "our system thinks your post is spam"

Bullshit, britbottle. Fuck you.

>> No.10667928

>>10667924

*is something

I was going to say "I've had" but changed it and forgot to take out the double negative.

>> No.10667936

>>10667924
>fapping to your waifu
for shame anon

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>>10667924
>The closest I can get to happiness is when I think about mai waifu (hurr durr memes so funny xD) while reaching a climax during fapping.

>> No.10667939

>>10667936

You haven't experienced a true orgasm until the intensity leaves you in a state of numbness with drool coming out of your mouth. I heard that if you push it even farther than that (the holding your breath longer than safely possible method), you can literally become unconscious, but I like lying there for a minute or two afterward to soak it in.

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>>10667939
you must be ugly if you can't get a girl with that attitude. girls love sensual men.

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>> No.10667944

>>10667924
I do feel sorry for you, I really do, but if the system wasn't so shit in the first place, then maybe there wouldn't be so many people trying to "buck the system" as you put it. If funds were allocated properly in the U.S., we could easily make the minimum wage $20 an hour, putting every working citizen above the poverty line, AT LEAST. But instead our minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour (for the most part) while prices for everything become more and more inflated with each passing year. It's like we're living with a legal form of slavery, and we're just okay with that. And just to be clear, I'm not trying to attack you or anything.

>> No.10667953

>>10667940

1. American women are terrible
2. As I said above, I can't hold a conversation
3. Even if I could hold a conversation, 2hu and American Idol don't exactly mix
4. American women like money, which I don't have much of
5. American women like to party, which I don't want to do

So then the obvious question is: If you DO go to Gensokyo and meet your waifu, what makes you think she'd be with a guy like you in the first place?

Because mai waifu doesn't live in a corrupt system full of money, niggers, governments, pills, porn, etc. that have spoiled her rotten and frayed her wiring, but yeah, this is getting in too deep, so I'll just stop.

>>10667944

You have no idea. There is absolutely no reason for anybody on this planet to be poor. Every single person can have an abundance of food, water, electricity, etc., and people could CHOOSE to work instead of being forced, and trust me, a planet with 20% employment working 10 hours per week is far more creative than a planet with 80% employment working 40 hours per week. Instead of slaving away at fast food or typing at a desk all day, people could spend their time doing the things they want to do. The technology EXISTS. We had cars that ran on water back in the 70s. It's been over 40 years, and we're still using gasoline?

Since there's some Alice pictures in this thread, I'll say this: It takes time to fall down the rabbit's hole, and the more time you fall, the deeper you go.

>> No.10667970

>>10667886
Brackets in quotes are for improving grammatical flow or replacing pronouns, not dramatically changing the content of people's posts.

>> No.10667969

>>10667953
>4. American women like money, which I don't have much of
>5. American women like to party, which I don't want to do
4. Everybody wants money, mr. benefits
5. Not especially. The guys like parties more. Do you ever hear much about lesbo parties? Not really. Gay parties? All the time.

>> No.10667973

>>10667953
Don't you mean 240 years? Steam engines were invented in the 1770s.

>> No.10667979

>>10667953
I mean, I'm already there. If I can achieve immortality within my lifetime (preferably via becoming a cyborg) I plan on making this world amazing. Immortality is key though, because if I start stirring the pot before that, I'm going to find myself real dead, real fast.

>> No.10667982

>>10667953
>cars that ran on water
If you mean "stanley's fuel cell," that looks like a propaganda effort against inventors. Which means you're a shill yourself, so fuck you.

>> No.10667984

>>10667843
>>10667873
>ONLY 30 hours a week
>STILL gets food stamps
>STILL smokes

tell you're mother I said she is a baka

>> No.10667988

Anyways, I'll be back in twelve hours. Hopefully this thread will still be up when I get back. Good "night" for now /jp/.

>> No.10667996

Can I get SSI for being "depressed" or something similar? How would I go about getting it?

Also, I have this stomach issue that I don't know what it is. I don't have health insurance so I can't afford to get it checked up. If I eat too much, I get a major stomach pain and have breathing issues. I now only limit myself to one meal a day, but have no energy to do anything. Eating more would cause me to feel so much pain I just want to kill myself.

>> No.10667997

>>10667982

No, I mean there have been tons of technologies that have been suppressed so that the oil industry can sustain its monopoly. There are much more efficient ways of running a car.

I'm going to bed.

>> No.10668002

>>10667996
Are you an American?

>> No.10668008

>>10668002
Yes. I don't really care too much about SSI but it would help greatly because my family is poor and the money can help pay bills. I'm currently trying to get a job to help pay.

The tiredness, lack of motivation, and stomach problems are a real pain though, but my family doesn't know too much about that. I try to not get them to worry, since I feel like a huge burden already.

>> No.10668015

>>10668008
>I try to not get them to worry, since I feel like a huge burden already.
You should talk to your family.

>> No.10668174

I might be the only one here but I went with schizophrenia.

I've actually half convinced myself at various times that I really am schizophrenic though so maybe there is some legitimacy to the diagnosis...

I started going to the free psychology counselors at my university and talking about a bunch of "red pill" stuff i learned on /pol/ about various control conspiracies and then after a few sessions I really opened up and started going on about how there is no such thing as different people because every consciousness we can conceive is just a partitioned off compartment of the overall collective consciousness of the universe and I basically just rambled shit like that. Also, I randomly started crying without any emotion during one session (I'm not sure what caused it; I might have real emotional problems that I'm not faking).

Eventually all of this got me some messed up diagnoses. I let my grades fail that semester and they saw that as another sign of my sudden affliction because up til then I was a good student.

Now I'm on the government dole and don't regret it one bit.

Good luck OP!

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