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I was a North American Fall Webworm in my past life.

What were you in your former life?

>> No.10632906

a peasant woman in southern india

>> No.10632904

>>10632899
Hiroshima

fug you Murricans

>> No.10632905
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10632905

Either they were nightmarish dreams from my childhood, or I was a small black kid who died by falling off a playground object and breaking my skull open.

What a charming life that was.

>> No.10632909

Reincarnation is the stupidest shit ever. Any form of afterlife makes more sense than it.

>> No.10632912

>>10632906

yes, im dead serious, it was an awful life.

>> No.10632919

>>10632909

just because YOU think its stupid doesn't mean it doesn't in fact, exist and occur.

>> No.10632924

>>10632899
You only have one life. Don't waste it!

>> No.10632929

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz7lsPwbPHw

I was Chen.

>> No.10632930

>>10632924
#yolo

>> No.10632931

>>10632924

Well, as far as we know, that is.

>> No.10632932

Patchouli

>> No.10632946
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10632946

Find something to believe in, find it for yourself, and then pass it on to the future!

>> No.10632984

>>10632919
But the entire concept is a logical fallacy. There is no possible way, both physically and hypothetically that it would be possible.

>> No.10632987

I was you.

>> No.10632994

>>10632899
Probably a princess

>> No.10633001

someone's cock

>> No.10633000

How would I find out?

>> No.10633002

>>10632987
Fuck, now i remember that story.

>> No.10633003

>>10632984
Nah.

>> No.10633004

>>10632984
Please explain. In my eyes, it seems completely possible, so it seems likely that you have made one or more assumptions which conflict with it, and are treating this assumption as a fact.

>> No.10633008

>>10632994
in other dimension. i got flashbacks of that sometimes...

>> No.10633009

...How does one find out what their past life was like? I don't know anything about it...

>> No.10633010

>>10633004
Before we discuss this any further, I would like you to describe the concept of reincarnation just so we are on equal footing.

>> No.10633011

I think all of my dreams have always been me put superimposed into different situations. I mean those situations were things I would never personally be in, but it was always the current me.

>> No.10633020

>>10633009
:o

>> No.10633021

>>10633010
It assumes the existence of a non-physical portion of each human that continues on after death and, at least in part, ends up bound to a new human at some point. The resulting human should carry over tendencies, etc., but little to no memories.

That's what I was told it was like, anyway. It's not like I'm saying it's true or that I verified it for myself, but I do think it's possible.

>> No.10633036

>>10633021
So the issue with what you described is that tendencies aren't something which exists independently to memories. Neuroscience has proven that there is a direct correlation between memories and personality. It's not just active memories but personality can also be ingrained by society. This means that, without memories, there is no possible way to relate the tendencies of a living human with a dead one, because it is the memories themselves that defines a human.

There's also the issue of the incompatibility between the brains of different animals. You specifically mentioned humans so it doesn't count but I would still like to mention it.

>> No.10633048

>>10633036
Hm. The way it was described to me... Just for the sake of example, let's say the person was a drunkard in their past life. This love of alcohol would try to find its way into their next life, but if it finds no outlet, it will simply die out before ever manifesting.

And yeah, I'm pretty sure humans aren't supposed to reincarnate as other kinds of animals.

>> No.10633050

I'm not smart, I'm not talented, and I'm lazy as hell yet I love the shit out of myself. I think I might have been a noble or something.

>> No.10633057

ur mom

>> No.10633061

The strict headmaster of a school for girls

>> No.10633064

>>10633048
Alcohol specifically is a mind altering substance. Just like any drug, you can grow a dependence to it. There are biological reasons why this would affect some people more than others, but it's almost entirely physical. As in the physical structure of the brain, it's hard-wired to make you feel good for doing certain things. Now this conflicts directly with the concept of reincarnation because it implies that nothing physical is shared between the old and new person. How could a love of alcohol be transferred if it's a tangible thing?

>> No.10633072

>>10633048
No. The idea of reincarnation is that we exist in a karmic universe--one of moral causation. When we die, our physical bodies become one with everything and then is reconstructed into another being. Karma drives the universe and determines what we become in the next life. If you're a shitty person, you can expect to be something shitty in your "next life" (maybe even a literal shit).

>> No.10633092

>>10633064
Yes, alcohol has many physical influences. But to say that there is no non-physical influence... Let me put it this way. If you still end up wanting to drink regardless of your body's addiction to it, simply because you like doing it, then from what I know, it would be called "astral" rather than physical. No, the addiction itself would not theoretically be transferred.
>>10633072
That's just one theory. I'm not a Buddhist, for one thing.

>> No.10633097

>>10633092
Alcohol physically alters the brain through consumption. It's the same for most other addictions. You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reward_system
Now, the reason someone would want to drink if there was no addiction is based on memory. They have memories of drinking being a good experience, even if only subconsciously. So there is a non-physical influence, but it's caused by something reincarnation isn't supposed to share between the old and new.

>>10633072
This surprisingly has a lot to do with quantum mechanics and it wouldn't be right for me to discuss it since I'm not incredibly knowledgeable on the subject but if you would like them I'm willing to share my thoughts on the subject.

>> No.10633102

/jp/ - Philosophy/General

>> No.10633108

>>10633064
You are a literal retard.

>> No.10633111

>>10633097
>Now, the reason someone would want to drink if there was no addiction is based on memory.
...I think the situation isn't supposed to be quite that clear-cut. Sadly I don't know enough about all those studies on the subject that you seem to be citing here (although it seems logical that you can't really thoroughly prove this unless you manage to study a person throughout the majority of their life). Nor am I an expert on the subject of this particular theory of reincarnation.

>> No.10633115

>>10633097
>Alcohol physically alters the brain through consumption.
This is what retards refuse to understand and drunkards with a death wish choose to ignore. Boozing literally always alters you in ways that are unknown to every single person on this planet.

>> No.10633120

>>10633111
That's fine. The original point of this discussion was for my to explain what I said, which I hopefully have.

I hope you can at least understand why I'm claiming it can't exist.

>> No.10633128

>>10633115
I think its more that no one gives a shit

>> No.10633168

>>10633128
See:
>drunkards with a death wish choose to ignore

>> No.10633170
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10633170

I don't know.

>> No.10633175

>>10633168
I'd argue with you but you know how full of shit you are.

>> No.10633181

>>10633168

We're all on our way out; one has to die of something. It's fine to die of alcoholism so long as you don't have other people who would be heavily and directly affected.

>> No.10633194

>>10633092
>That's just one theory. I'm not a Buddhist, for one thing.
Reincarnation appears in more than just Buddhism. The concept is generally the same across them all: You die and then you are "reborn." There's no transfer of memory or spirit or soul. It's more of a truth of universality. Consistent with the laws of thermodynamics, nothing is lost, nothing is gained. It's an endless cycle of life and death--that is reincarnation.

Now depending on religion is where Karma fits in. If you believe that the Gods control Karma, then what you do matters and past lives do affect future lives. If you don't, then Karma is nothing more than cosmic cause and effect.

>> No.10633229

>>10633181
You're right, but isn't it a miserable way? Clean thinking is a wonderful gift. If the world is too much to handle you could just downshift.
>>10633175
I'm sorry.

>> No.10633243

>>10633194
If there is no transfer of spirit or soul or anything like that, then how can you really call it being reborn? The result would be a totally unrelated human.

Anyway, that's different from my idea of reincarnation. And I'm not even saying I believe in the idea I've described, only that I think it is a reasonable possibility and that it happens to coincide with some other things that I do believe. To be honest, I don't much like the idea of reincarnation, personally.

>> No.10633247

>>10633229

I'm already homeless and I don't do much besides the proletarian work I do to keep myself in money. If I downshift any more, I'll be destitute in half a year and will die of some infection or exposure instead.

>> No.10633261

>>10633247
I'd say that you have a good reason to blame your leaders or those who bully them. You should see - or maybe you shouldn't - how things work in certain wealthier parts of the world.

The big guys should really keep working on global equality. Keeping the third world down is evil as hell.

>> No.10633269

>>10633261
The thing is that this economy won't survive without living off of the third world like this.

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10633274

I was Dracula, I even have two dots on my neck as my birthmark.

>> No.10633276

>>10633261

I already blame my leaders, but I am powerless to affect change because people believe they are free. and thus fail to recognize slavery.

I just wish I had some land, on which to sustain an agrarian subsistence lifestyle. Then I'd probably not drink and enjoy myself more.

>> No.10633279

>>10633269
Of course it won't. Jesus tittyfucking christ, we have fission bombs and silicon chips and some people wonder why it's so difficult to prevent niggers from dying from hunger?

>> No.10633324

>>10633279
>fission bombs

Aren't fusion bombs technically more impressive?

>> No.10633332

>>10633279
The American way of organizing things:
- make it so that everything is measurable in currency (privatize everything, economy starts functioning as a universal explanation)
- keep people out of higher education (paywalls work - they won't block rich intellectuals from foreign countries)
- STRICTLY DISAPPROVE all kind of economic socialism (people must be kept busy or they'll start studying for leisure - it must not happen [this also gives a nice constant feed of desperate canon fodder for the mercenary army])
- create a culture of anti-intellectualism and bashfulness
- pay insanely well to anyone who has the guts to educate himself (it's vital that these people conform at all costs)
- keep the place fragmented (the state division is good, as is religious diversity)

>> No.10633362

>>10633332

Please don't nitpick reality in /jp/ so much, dude. Actually confronting the American lack of proper civil ordering makes me feel uneasy.

>> No.10633384

>>10633362
I'm sorry. I shold have waited for a proper /pol/ thread.

>> No.10633399

>>10633332
>>10633362
>>10633384
Idiot, learn what words mean before you use them.

>> No.10633419

>>10633399
In this context:
- being measurable in currency means that every single service must be paid for; things shouldn't be freely available for the general public without a specific reason
- higher education means college or university
- paywall could indeed be considered incorrect because it's generally used when talking about digital information access
- "A socialist economic system would consist of a system of production and distribution organized to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital. " - "Socialism and Capitalism: Are They Qualitatively Different Socioeconomic Systems?", by Kotz, David M. Retrieved February 19, 2011, from University of Massachusetts
- mer·ce·nar·y Pronunciation (mûrs-nr)
adj.
1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain.
-Anti-intellectualism is hostility towards and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the derision of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical and contemptible.

Where was the problem?

>> No.10633443

>>10633419
"Bashful," just for starters.

And welfare states were an attempt on the part of Bismark to keep the same people he was driving out. Do the math, FDR's reforms were new and different from your post-cultural yuropeen shit.

>> No.10633447

>>10633443
>And welfare states were an attempt on the part of Bismark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
Further reading
Hilson, Mary. The Nordic model: Scandinavia since 1945 (2008)

>> No.10633465

>>10633443
>>10633447
About bashfulness: you were very quick to call me an idiot.

>> No.10633588

I was a dung beetle, my love for shit in my past life lead me here.

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